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What's your favorite Sci-Fi trope you'd like to see in Star Citizen? | A Star Citizen call-in show · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

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  When was that reconned? In enterprise, when it's
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  discovered that the females actually control the men with
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  their. That was revealed to the.
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  Interview. Nice.
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  That was that was revealed in the original series as well.
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  Look, I don't mind that. Put that in sources.
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  I'm cool with that. I will.
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  I'll thrive, dude. I'll be all right y'all.
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  After we claimed, let's let's talk about that first because.
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  Oh, we're not doing that right. We're not doing any of that.
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  Oh, we're gonna talk about all the world things happening.
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  I bet you in Stanton. If Stanton is the OK, never
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  mind. I'm not going to do it.
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  All right. That was like, how far are we
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  going? No.
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  We're not going to do it. We're not going to do it because
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  that's not what this show is about.
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  strangers. Well, we welcome.
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  What are you talking about? I mean, it hasn't happened yet,
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  but we want it to happen, right? Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
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  You don't you don't want to get some sleep.
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  And then you'd love to call in and let us know, you know what
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  you think about a video game. Speaking of which, what were
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  you? What were you thinking about
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  this video game? I was thinking so much about
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  this video game to have. Thank you for asking.
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  I was thinking all week about this video game.
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  Actually, I've been, I've been diving into the sci-fi.
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  I've been playing a little Stellaris.
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  I've been watching some sci-fi movies.
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  I watched a really good movie this week.
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  Superman May have, you may have heard of it.
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  I don't know. See, we need another show to
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  talk about these kinds of nonsensical things.
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  It's like, dude, it's a Superman movie.
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  Definitely would be another show that.
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  Would be so. You gotta stay in our lane.
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  We. Gotta stay in our lane.
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  We got a little. Tidy, you know.
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  Me seeing the entertainment news, the entertainment media,
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  because you know, there's like wars going on.
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  They can cover those things. But no, they're gonna, they're
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  gonna talk about Superman and how woke it is and this and
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  that, whatever. So I was like, OK, I have to go
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  see Superman now. And by the way, I'm a big DC
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  Superman fan. Everything that James Gunn did,
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  every decision James Gunn made for this movie was the right
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  decision. That is a.
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  That's a, That's a glowing. That's a glowing review.
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  Let me tell you something, OK? You've seen Nathan Fillion
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  dressed as Guy Gardner with that bowl, that blonde bowl cup,
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  right? Yeah, the guy, the guy doesn't
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  have any bad roles. I mean, he's he's usually
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  pretty. 'Cause he's he's, he's, he's a
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  perfect specimen. He's got his, his jawline is
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  superb and he's he, he, by the way, if you're, if you're ADC
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  fan, he's played the Green Lantern for like, I don't know,
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  20 years now. He's played different variations
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  on the Green Lantern. What in what?
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  In what media? In the in the cartoons.
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  So he's been the Green Lantern. They did like a whole new 52
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  series throughout, like the basically from like, I don't
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  know, 2008, 2007 until like yesterday.
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  And he's been the Green Lantern throughout all of them.
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  So. So those of us who are big fans
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  know him as, but it's a different Green Lantern.
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  He plays Hal Jordan it it doesn't matter his bowl cut,
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  choosing Nathan Fillion, the direction I think they're gonna
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  take with Guy Gardner as the Green Lantern.
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  I think I know what he's doing. I'm not gonna spoil anything.
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  Anyway, it's all perfect putting Hawk Girl in it.
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  It's good to I'm I'm happy you enjoyed the movie.
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  I haven't seen it. I'd like to, but I'll probably
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  wait until just 'cause you know. Yeah, well, the, the, the reason
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  I bring it up is not only because it's an epic, beautiful
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  movie that you should go see Superman, but it's a sci-fi.
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  It's it's kind of, it's very sci-fi.
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  Like, Superman's an alien and he comes from another planet and he
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  lands on Earth and yes, that does, you know, he's fleeing the
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  destruction. That does make him a refugee.
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  We don't need to go into it. But it's a sci-fi kind of trope,
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  isn't that? That's also like a mythos trope
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  of like, humanity. This is a superhero movie, Yeah,
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  I mean. No, but I mean the trope of like
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  the baby who's like, like, like it's like Moses was sent down
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  the river in a basket. This is the very same thing Goku
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  has the same Goku Dragon Ball Z. You got to put this on another
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  shout like this is I feel like we're off, but it's still a
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  superhero. It's still it's superheroes.
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  I mean, it's like, you know, Hercules, I mean, come on.
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  I mean, that's it's like its own vein.
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  I wouldn't call it a. Well, there are other there are
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  other. Listen, there are other super.
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  There are other sci-fi tropes in the Superman movie, right?
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  And there's some sci-fi tropes that I'd love to see in Star
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  Citizen and some that maybe I wouldn't want to see in Star
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  Citizen. OK.
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  OK. OK.
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  All right. I see.
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  And now I see where you're going with this.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So Long story short, guys, if you haven't seen Superman, watch
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  Superman. Make up your own mind.
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  But just know that it's perfect. The script is tight.
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  It is a perfect movie and anyone who disagrees, we will start a
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  whole new show. If you disagree, put it in the
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  comments. We will start an entirely new
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  YouTube channel and to, to, to to so just so I can scream and
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  yell at you about how wrong you are and and and about how
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  Superman's the perfect movie but.
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  Sounds like it would be a more popular YouTube channel.
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  We'd get more views. Ken, let me tell you something
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  to have I checked. I just checked today we have
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  dozens of listeners. I'm shocked.
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  Dozens. We have about 10 or so on the
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  Spotify. Nope.
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  Nobody, nobody cares, Bob. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta, we
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  gotta up these numbers. I think we need to radically
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  change up some stuff here. Or at least.
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  Yeah, let's try some. Let's try some stuff.
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  I'm excited. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I'm excited. OK, Well how do you recommend we
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  improve the show? Oh, I just think we're doing it.
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  I think I do think every gathering for this, every, you
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  know, ceremoniously for our stresses and patches is kind of
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  fun. We even run out of stuff to talk
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  about all the time, which is fun too.
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  Well, not this week, baby. Hey, not this week, so.
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  I've been playing Star season quite a bit.
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  Not. Not as much as I do.
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  Sometime from inside the first some point.
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  I had a great amount of fun doing that I.
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  Thought that? Well, don't don't.
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  I mean don't spoil. Well, I mean, I, I don't know if
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  frankly, I'm a little between you and me, I'm a little wormed
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  out, but. Because of Dune.
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  Maybe it is just everywhere because.
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  Everyone's putting worms in everything.
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  I was more so thinking like when you dump, you know, God knows
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  how many rounds of 5 S 9 MO and you're out there.
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  I don't know. I don't.
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  Know you mean I'm moving on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
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  But I think it will change. A lot of people have this take.
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  It will change when they go to a new event or the new thing
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  happens and this stays because I've noticed having those little
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  guns that's on the on the building.
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  If the turrets work. Yeah, little turrets, things
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  like those, the stationary turrets.
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  Yeah, I think that's a lot of fun and I think it helps a lot
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  too. So maybe it's just me, but.
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  No, I'm with you. Let's bring another.
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  Another perspective, unless you want to talk, I do like your
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  whole theme of like what is, is that where you wanted to go like
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  sci-fi movies or do you want to talk?
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  Well, this week's question is what's your favorite sci-fi
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  trope you'd like to see in Star Citizen?
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  Yeah, what's the tab? Real quick, before before we
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  bring in our caller here, what is your favorite sci-fi trope
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  that you'd like to see in Star Citizen?
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  Me No the the other tab. Oh, I I mean I would just say
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  the little alien, the the half life, the the head crab.
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  What? The head crab.
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  Everybody knows what I'm talking about.
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  Like. Is that a trope?
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  Yeah. Well, it's in Half Life and in
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  Aliens, and yeah, I would say it's pretty, you know.
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  Little tiny when he runs. Around and like just jumps for
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  your head. So in the in the entire lexicon
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  of sci-fi, you want man with crab head?
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  Oh. Yeah, I get, you know, it gets
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  like running around in the gutters or something like.
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  Yeah, yeah. But in in Alien, it's like it's
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  not a crab. It's more of like a isn't like a
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  spidery, it's a little more. Yeah, it's a little more
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  intimidating. Yeah, it's a little.
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  Less crabby spider, but if you really want the face sucker to
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  be a crab, yeah, in in the Suicide Squad, it was in DC,
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  it's starfish and it sucks your face.
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  Did you see that? Did you see those?
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  OK. No, I I don't think I did.
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  That's probably another evidence of the troop.
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  Tab I have to take you on a journey we're gonna do we're
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  gonna do a a a different show. We're gonna do ADC sci-fi
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  journey. But today we're gonna focus on
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  Star Citizen, and we've talked. Do you wanna?
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  Do do you wanna give what your favorite trope is or you wanna
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  do that at the end? Oh, I'll just say I wanna see
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  the and we've kind of had this, but I like the like corporate
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  big sci-fi corporation research goes awry thing.
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  And Star Citizens has done this a little like with the worm kind
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  of a little bit. But I'll want to see like more
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  in terms of like the investigation side, like you
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  just happen upon some facility and you start picking up audio
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  logs. Maybe you read like a a, a note.
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  Dune does this. Maybe.
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  Not doing, not doing, not doing. Wayland Eutani written on the
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  side there, you know. Oh.
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  Well, Dune does. Yeah, Dune does do this.
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  You're right. It's everywhere.
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  It's all over the place. It's in video games throughout,
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  like Fallout with all the like that kind.
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  Of big bag that yeah. Yeah, but that isn't, that's
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  also not like consistent repetitive MMO gameplay.
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  But we can we can dive more into that with our with our next
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  caller, who I know has a a pretty good take.
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  He's been on the show before. Our resident hobo, our resident
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  leaker, cosmic Hobo. Welcome to Open Comms Radio,
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  your Star Citizen call and show. Thank you for calling in today.
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  Howdy. Howdy Sir.
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  So today's question is what's your favorite sci-fi trope you'd
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  like to see in Star Citizen? I had one right off the top of
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  my head when you first posed that question earlier today.
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  It is the covert organization recruits you.
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  So you know how this happens like all the time.
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  Think section. 31. From Star Trek.
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  Take your. Pick throughout every single
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  sci-fi movie, action flick, whatever is there's the secret
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  government organization. And I there is one already in
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  Star Citizen that very few people know about and might have
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  played a role in a recent event, but I'll get to that.
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  But the idea is that you get recruited by the secret
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  organization to do secret things for the government.
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  That's what I want to see. Men in Black style.
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  Yeah, it's, it's, it's a trope, it's a cliche.
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  But I, I've always, I've always kind of liked it.
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  How it will work in an MO, I have no idea.
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  I, I I'm sure whatever fun little secrets that could come
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  from it would be just spread immediately all across the web.
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  That's the problem. Yeah, yeah.
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  But it would be there's ways you could do it and just tiny little
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  drips and and and that's why I don't think they that's why
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  looping back to what I said a couple seconds ago, I think
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  they're already in action. They just haven't been brought
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  to light yet. So you know, this whole fight
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  for pyro attack on the Stanton sort of thing with the
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  headhunters and frontier fighters and all these
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  different. Groups.
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  Oh, I forgot about that, it's been a while.
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  It's. Fair.
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  Like they. They sort of.
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  Took yeah, we've been warming like they took a break kind of
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  from that main A plot for this kind of B plot, the B story of
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  the region crisis. Unless they're going to tie it
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  all together in the end, but honestly.
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  But yeah, that the a plot is which is coming back.
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  Well, I guess this is more region crisis, but for this next
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  event. But anyway, yeah, Frontier
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  fighters all that. Who?
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  Who gave the Frontier fighters all those ships?
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  And specifically a freaking Idris?
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  What? Where you don't just pick up an
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  interest just lying on the street, like those are capital
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  shifts, right? Like putting aside that the meta
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  game where you yes, you can just buy one.
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  But putting that aside and Laura, think about it, interests
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  are expensive. Interests are designed for
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  militias and they're probably pretty well trapped kind of like
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  in real life. You want to buy yourself a a
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  machine gun, like a full on M60 machine gun, a a big one, like a
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  real one. Those are all trapped like the
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  government, the ATF has lists of the names of purchasers, you've
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  got to have special licenses, all of that, you've got to pay
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  special taxes, that kind of stuff.
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  So wouldn't it make sense that there's such a sort of list for
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  interests? So where'd they get an interest?
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  Probably from those those damned.
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  I don't actually. I have no idea where they would
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  go from the UE. You have to get an interest from
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  the UE. Aren't they the only ones who
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  have them? No, they did the civilian
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  program with a kind of sold off surplus lightning, sold out
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  surplus interests. So like, yeah, they're they're
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  civilians that have it just like technically US civilian citizens
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  have interests. But if someone it it, it's just
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  my thinking that someone in power this secret to all this
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  organization and it has a name. I can't quite remember it off
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  the top because it's it's intentionally generic.
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  It has like the most generic name.
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  It's just like the office or something.
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  Is this Is this like the from Mass Effect?
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  Is this like the Cerberus organization of Star Citizen?
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  Yes, yes, and it's I, I remember the back story for it off the
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  top and I I was briefly trying to find it on the on the
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  Wikipedia. I couldn't because the name is
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  so freaking generic, but it's like the office or the
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  accountants or. Something just call them the
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  organization the. Organization, yeah, the
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  organization, and that's a trope on all of on its own is that
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  it's there's this shadowy, the organization that is working the
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  shadows, but it, it plays into kind of the world, the world,
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  the universe is the versus politics because the
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  organization is part of the Senate, the UE Senate.
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  The Senate famously was kind of sidelined a bit during the the
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  master era, AKA the the dictatorship, the imperial
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  times. So they wanted to build a kind
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  of secret organization that can exert power like that.
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  They're not a law enforcement group or anything like that.
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  They're just there to kind of secretly in the shadows, enforce
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  the will of the Senate so they don't fall into another
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  dictatorship. This What is this like an
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  intelligence Gestapo of sorts? Yeah, yeah, they, they don't.
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  That's terrifying. And, and, and actually it's,
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  it's slightly even more terrifying because of their
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  methods of essentially hiring people.
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  They don't have like agents necessarily.
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  They just hire people for jobs that they don't know what like
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  they don't know who hired them, but they're here.
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  They'd have this job to do, but they can't track back like who
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  hired? Them this is Interpol.
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  It's Interpol. It's an evil Interpol.
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  I mean Interpol is a little. It.
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  It's they murder scientists and like.
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  It's but it it's that. Kind of.
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  They're not killing war criminals at Interpol.
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  You know what? I.
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  Mean but yeah that's the idea is that they're they're they're
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  this and they likely helped at least partially engineer this
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  crisis to shift power against some one of the factions.
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  We actually talked about this at a bar citizen of all places a
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  few months ago last year I think it was and it was it was very
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  interesting because the the theory the guy had and I've I'm
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  kind of stealing a little bit here is that the internal
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  politics of the Senate's the V organization.
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  I, they were kind of utilized to get this outsider group.
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  This outsider group is one that wants, this political group
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  wants pretty much return to the Messer era because I, I, I'm
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  pretty sure they're xenophobic and everyone else is like, yeah,
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  aliens are fine, I guess. But the Messer Messer rights or
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  whatever they're known as are kind of like no aliens bad.
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  Yeah, for people, for people who don't know the Messer era, it
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  was like the era 200 years before the era in game.
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  And it was like a dictatorship based, a monarchy, dictatorship
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  of the Messers. That was their name.
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  And they just kind of like, ruled with an iron fist, right?
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  Yep, Yep, they oppressed everyone.
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  They hated Alien, they almost brought the UAE to war with like
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  the Banu and others and. That sort of.
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  Stuff they did fight wars, of course, with the well, I'm not
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  going to defend a xenophobic dictatorship, but they did have
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  to fight off the vandal which. Well, easy peasy.
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  I've been an arena commander. Those ships, those are frail.
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  Yeah, they're made of paper. Those are you can just hockey
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  popping those off. With 10, just like a little,
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  bend them a little bit, try both together, yeah.
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  Yeah, they they die in two seconds, dude, it's a couple of
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  hit. I fight them in my Zeus, my
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  exploration Zeus. You can come with me again.
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  They're getting the turret gun. We'd probably I always get
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  beyond, you know, like no, not bragging, but you know, level 10
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  or whatever it is in there. Wow, double digits.
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  I I I've beaten all of the waves based game modes and we're going
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  to matter multiple times. But yeah, it's that's so tying
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  that all together, that's kind of the trope on and see how it
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  works is I think it'll be one of those things that the community
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  kind of eventually catches wind of.
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  But CIG, or at least the writers will never kind of will kind of
• 23:45
  wink and a nod kind of things like, oh, that's mission giver.
• 23:51
  I don't know, a little shady. They're, they're probably just a
• 23:54
  middle man for something or some other group, I don't know, or
• 23:59
  like 2 would chains down like it's, it's, I think that's kind
• 24:04
  of whenever there's going to be a boogeyman, it'll be that
• 24:07
  organization, the organization in the background there.
• 24:11
  That's also what. I want.
• 24:14
  To say, well, that's also kind of a good way if you're making
• 24:19
  an MMO and you want to have the developers like totally have a
• 24:25
  hand in the direction of the way things are going.
• 24:29
  You make a secret organization, you call it the organization.
• 24:32
  Oh, the organization did this or that.
• 24:35
  And it's just the way for the developers to put in what they
• 24:38
  want or navigate where they want to go and maintain the in game
• 24:44
  narrative there. So it's smart.
• 24:48
  Yeah. And and we need to get overtime
• 24:50
  more connection to the Senate to see how it kind of operates
• 24:55
  because and it's we had elections, Remember we, we
• 24:59
  elected the last imperator. What was that four or five years
• 25:02
  ago now? Well, the cool thing about
• 25:06
  interesting thing about Star Citizen is they still use the
• 25:08
  Electoral College. So who's really voting for who?
• 25:17
  Oh God, the future still sucks. Yeah.
• 25:20
  So anyway, Cosmic Hobo, thank you for coming in.
• 25:26
  Of course, as always, you can stay.
• 25:29
  Stay here. We have a big couch.
• 25:31
  The couch gets bigger the more people we have on it.
• 25:34
  You can see it expanding right now beside you.
• 25:36
  If you could slide down that couch.
• 25:39
  Wow, how does it do that? It's it's science.
• 25:44
  OK. That's cool.
• 25:46
  So we're gonna bring up our our next guest.
• 25:49
  Who do we have here? Tav.
• 25:51
  Mr. Excuse me, Excuse me. Lord Anubis, if you Lord Anubis,
• 26:00
  welcome to open Comms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show.
• 26:07
  Just gotta ham that up. I'm just.
• 26:11
  Thank you for joining us today. Thank you.
• 26:17
  And I got to say, it's a lot more fun when you leave Twitch
• 26:20
  and this up at the same time, so you get to hear it twice.
• 26:25
  Indeed. Double the fun.
• 26:28
  Yes. Lord Anubis, what's your
• 26:32
  favorite sci-fi trope you'd like to see in Star Citizen?
• 26:38
  Anything that actually affects the game.
• 26:41
  That's not the spirit of the question, Lord Anubis.
• 26:47
  I mean they cover most of the tropes.
• 26:50
  Pretty fair. Except you're not falling in
• 26:53
  love with aliens. You're not.
• 26:56
  Yet. You're not transporting yourself
• 27:00
  through space. There's no androids looking to
• 27:05
  become human and there's no Cybermen or Borg or whatever.
• 27:10
  So, you know, but pretty much everything else that they have
• 27:17
  in the game as far as lore is just lore.
• 27:22
  And that's kind of the problem. It needs to actually have an
• 27:24
  effect on the game. You know, that that that's the
• 27:29
  thing. I mean, if we're going to have
• 27:30
  tropes, they got to actually do something rather than just be a
• 27:34
  blurb in the loading screen. You don't think the the egg and
• 27:43
  the worm was quite tropy? The the facility and the
• 27:47
  scientists were working with radiation like it's very tropy.
• 27:52
  I mean, it is, but again, it it, it's an individual ride that
• 28:00
  doesn't affect the larger thing. We're still just churning in
• 28:04
  resources for money. There's no stakes in this whole
• 28:10
  region thing. You know, I mean, like, what if
• 28:14
  we all fail to regions just not come back?
• 28:16
  Well, no, because they've always been here.
• 28:18
  They haven't actually. Region isn't actually broken, at
• 28:22
  least not from our perspective. Right.
• 28:24
  That'd be cool if there were like a week or two weeks where
• 28:27
  they actually did that. You're like, sorry.
• 28:30
  Your kid was dead per week. That would be so.
• 28:34
  Fun, dude. How, how like seriously would
• 28:38
  people take it? And how upset would they be?
• 28:41
  And then how much would they be itching to come back once they
• 28:47
  were like, oh, regions back. People would be like, finally,
• 28:50
  and you'd have a flurry of people coming back.
• 28:54
  Yeah, that or, or you could just have people that, you know,
• 28:57
  regions send you some random place, you know, anything,
• 29:00
  anything at all. That makes more sense if it's if
• 29:04
  it could just affect the game. For once, no, no one would.
• 29:08
  They would never do like they would never go that far with it
• 29:10
  because someone would like sue them because they suck.
• 29:15
  Someone who sucks would sue them being like I paid for the game.
• 29:17
  You're saying I can't play the game for a week.
• 29:19
  That's you know. Yeah, but if they go to some
• 29:22
  random place or if they get. Kick some, kick some somewhere
• 29:26
  random. It sends them to to digital hell
• 29:29
  or whatever and their consciousness is floating around
• 29:32
  of Rick and mini game or whatever 'cause they happen to
• 29:36
  die. I mean, they're getting tortured
• 29:38
  by, I don't know, Yeah. I mean, we got Jo already.
• 29:44
  Maybe they go to some collections point where it's
• 29:47
  just where you have to get like, there's just some extra bit of
• 29:50
  tedium, you know? Yeah, it's just a collection
• 29:53
  guy. Yeah, maid's outfit just
• 29:56
  whipping you for like 3 hours and you can't get out of it by
• 29:59
  just taking on other prisoners. You just have to just suffer in
• 30:03
  digital hell. Is that on Steam?
• 30:05
  Why? Why do we want this?
• 30:07
  Feature I don't. Know is that on sale or I'll pay
• 30:09
  full price? But real, actual consequences,
• 30:14
  because I, I, you know, tropes are one thing, but like, I don't
• 30:18
  read the blurbs when I'm, when I'm loading in, you know, I
• 30:21
  mean, not even wanting to read, I mean, you, you kind of skim
• 30:25
  it. But if it doesn't really change
• 30:27
  anything, all you know is what YouTube told you to go get the
• 30:30
  money. Yeah, this is, this is a
• 30:34
  challenge. This is a big challenge nowadays
• 30:38
  is that everything you put in is just going to get ruined right
• 30:40
  away. There's no monthly magazine that
• 30:43
  comes anymore. You know, once, once once Game
• 30:47
  Facts started on the Internet, that was it.
• 30:51
  RIP Nintendo Power. Nintendo, I blame the bulletin
• 30:58
  board at the entrance of Babbages and Electronics
• 31:03
  Boutique. You got to be old.
• 31:07
  Begins. I remember IP games.
• 31:10
  Oh no, you'd have to travel. I'll talk about Electronics
• 31:13
  Boutique. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm there, I'm
• 31:18
  there. You'd have to travel to do
• 31:19
  things back in the day, yes. You want to know something?
• 31:25
  What's that? You got to go.
• 31:27
  You want to know something, you got to go.
• 31:28
  Nowadays if you want to make out with Pan Am in the in the tank,
• 31:34
  you just got to Google it. Are you talking about the hit
• 31:38
  game Cyberpunk? I'm, I'm talking about the hit
• 31:40
  game Cyberpunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:43
  What about giant schlongs talking about Cyberpunk?
• 31:50
  He's just talking about the hit game Cyberpunk.
• 31:53
  Is that not a sci-fi trope? I didn't know, I was confused
• 31:55
  because I saw it. It is.
• 31:57
  The original Ferengi design was supposed to have giant schlongs.
• 32:01
  No. Yes, really.
• 32:04
  Yes. What?
• 32:05
  Well, that's more than Ganic. You to know what Knights this is
• 32:10
  Who? Who?
• 32:11
  Who? Sorry, what?
• 32:13
  Gene Rodger nixed that. All of them.
• 32:22
  They also nixed the four breasted counselor Troy that was
• 32:26
  hyper sex crazed. They also nixed I mean like it
• 32:31
  was crazy. ANYWAYS, tropes.
• 32:36
  Star Trek could have been so much more.
• 32:40
  You know, sometimes you don't let someone take full control
• 32:43
  because let's just say they may end up making things like
• 32:47
  Episode 1 or Star Trek 5 or the second one movie.
• 32:54
  Yeah. Yeah, Well, what are you gonna
• 32:59
  do? You know, Chris Roberts has.
• 33:02
  Do you think Chris Roberts has full control of Star Citizen or
• 33:05
  do you think he's kind of running this thing?
• 33:09
  He's got a committee now. He's who's the who's that, that
• 33:11
  guy, like second in charge guy, What's his name?
• 33:15
  The skinny dude who comes out as as Citizen Con.
• 33:19
  Percival. No, no, no.
• 33:22
  Percival T Money. What I I.
• 33:26
  Know who? I know who you're talking about
• 33:28
  the Is he the guy that did the demo say?
• 33:31
  Yeah, he's the guy who did the demo, and he's like, we're gonna
• 33:33
  do it live. And then it didn't work and he
• 33:36
  was like, no, no, it's not. How this is all right crazy now?
• 33:41
  Do it live. Fucking thing sucks.
• 33:43
  Do it live. And they were like, we're using
• 33:45
  a different computer than what we tested.
• 33:47
  And I was like, why? Why didn't you just test it on
• 33:50
  the computer you're using it? That's an aside thing.
• 33:52
  That's just like an event management thing.
• 33:54
  It's like use do the practice on the stuff you're using live.
• 34:00
  Don't do the practice on, you know, stuff you're not going to
• 34:04
  be using live. Although if it works Florida
• 34:08
  State people would just say it was pre rendered.
• 34:10
  It failing showed that it actually is a thing.
• 34:15
  Yeah, it's it's a thing. It was a pretty good thing,
• 34:20
  honestly. I liked the Squadron 42.
• 34:23
  I The only thing I didn't like about it is that I was, it was
• 34:26
  just a movie, Like there was no game.
• 34:29
  Like they sat on a turret. On Rails, kind of like on Rails
• 34:35
  shooter. No, Star Fox is on rails, but
• 34:39
  you're playing a game the whole time.
• 34:43
  This is the story. It wasn't.
• 34:44
  It was a lot of cutscenes. It was an hour and a half, dude.
• 34:46
  It was a full movie. Yeah.
• 34:49
  It was Kojima levels of cutscene.
• 34:52
  It was good, it was entertaining, but like it was,
• 34:55
  it wasn't a game, it was a movie.
• 34:57
  It's Grand Theft Auto 5 in space and this is their single player
• 35:01
  campaign that they took longer to put out than the multiplayer.
• 35:06
  I'm afraid, can I say something? I'm afraid that's going to turn
• 35:09
  people off because there when I like Cyberpunk is for me too
• 35:16
  much dialogue. Because I'm like, dude, I've
• 35:19
  been sitting here for like 20 minutes and all I've been doing
• 35:21
  is talking to people. Which is like, it's not that I
• 35:25
  don't enjoy that, I enjoy that, but I don't want to do it for
• 35:28
  that much time if I'm sitting down to play a game.
• 35:34
  I mean, part of it to me seems like they should integrate it
• 35:36
  with the multiplayer. So you're kind of still in the
• 35:40
  verse while you're doing all these things.
• 35:44
  What do you mean? Well, I mean, let's say Grand
• 35:49
  Theft Auto, right? Like you're doing missions and
• 35:51
  when you can do missions in multiplayer that lead towards
• 35:56
  long term career goals and things that are completely
• 35:59
  scripted and things like that. And go through an entire
• 36:03
  storyline and they could do that with squadron 42.
• 36:06
  They could do parts of it in the verse, you know certain missions
• 36:11
  that you have to do while other players are trying to achieve it
• 36:14
  too in order to integrate the two games together.
• 36:17
  I I think yeah, the the full on single player 72 hours worth of
• 36:23
  dialogue in order to fill out a 10 hour game is, you know, isn't
• 36:30
  going to work. I do think that yeah, you you
• 36:32
  kind of open that up. So it isn't just that.
• 36:35
  Well, we've only seen the first mission.
• 36:41
  It's an hour and a half of cutscenes for a first mission.
• 36:44
  Yeah, yeah. That's my point.
• 36:47
  It was a lot. It was a lot.
• 36:49
  It was like, I mean, that was half of 2001 Space Odyssey, you
• 36:53
  know what I mean? That was that was almost the
• 36:56
  length of the Superman movie. I mean, it's it's.
• 37:00
  Kind of. What Chris Roberts wanted to do
• 37:02
  with it, I mean, it's even, there's a reason you picked the
• 37:05
  crisis engine back in the day. Is it delivered?
• 37:09
  You know that's. Cinematic.
• 37:11
  Kind of experience, yeah. That's cinematic storytelling,
• 37:14
  you know? I like that.
• 37:17
  I mean, I'm into that. That's what that was then.
• 37:23
  But given, yeah, it's it's even more.
• 37:25
  Cinematic than crisis that opening but that was yeah, I
• 37:29
  think it's yeah it's kind of really on brand form it seems so
• 37:32
  I I I would think that after that opening the game opens up a
• 37:36
  little bit more you might even hopefully have a choice to
• 37:40
  either pursue various different things or get a different kit
• 37:45
  maybe. But if the whole thing is on
• 37:49
  Rails it it wouldn't surprise me either.
• 37:51
  Yeah, yeah. We'll see.
• 37:53
  My major concern is that it's an hour and a half worth of cut
• 37:56
  scenes, then you go into combat and combat's just like it is in
• 38:00
  in PU where you take out a couple ships rather easily and
• 38:05
  then you're back to cut scenes. Yeah, that was my thing.
• 38:09
  I'm not walking around this ship much.
• 38:11
  I'm not gearing up. I'm not like, I'm not like
• 38:16
  learning how to play the game. And I've been playing it for an
• 38:19
  hour and a half and all I've done is a is a turret, you know,
• 38:24
  gunner. There's that big FPS chunk.
• 38:30
  Yeah, exactly. And you're jumping outside the
• 38:32
  ship. You had the little bit of Eva
• 38:34
  kind of fun and introducing you to the various concepts of the
• 38:39
  game. And then you meet up with the
• 38:41
  NPC and you go to the cutscenes. I mean, I'll do it.
• 38:44
  I'm just concerned about the people who've never played this
• 38:46
  game at all and then they get that and then they're like, oh,
• 38:49
  what's going on? Like who's your audience?
• 38:52
  You, you're not going for The Who, who, who are we like who
• 38:57
  are we looking for? Are we looking for the twitchy
• 39:00
  shooter audience, which just seemed like they were going for
• 39:02
  for a little bit there? Are we going for a hardcore
• 39:06
  sci-fi audience? Are we going for an MMO
• 39:08
  audience? Who?
• 39:10
  I think. For Squadron 42, the middle one
• 39:12
  there, the hardcore sci-fi is what they're going for.
• 39:16
  Yeah. You know the problem with our
• 39:19
  hardcores? Yeah, sorry.
• 39:23
  Well, the problem with with the hardcore sci-fi is that even
• 39:27
  those people, I'm one of them, shouldn't have to watch a 3 1/2
• 39:32
  hour Astro Historian video in order to know what's going on.
• 39:37
  I'm confident that'll be taken care of in in squash and 42 at
• 39:41
  least, given you have an hour and a half of dialogue in the
• 39:47
  game. Yeah, there's, you don't have to
• 39:50
  know everything going in. That's why they have that long
• 39:52
  of a those long cutscenes, as they're telling you.
• 39:56
  All you have to know is Gillian Anderson is the same.
• 39:59
  Fair, Yeah. She's a nice lady.
• 40:03
  All right, well, Lord Anubis, anything else you want to say
• 40:06
  before we bring up our next caller here?
• 40:09
  Yes, I am now the only caller. Everyone else must be booted and
• 40:14
  it just must be mean. Focus must be on me.
• 40:18
  I'm just kidding. OK.
• 40:19
  All right. Well, if that's going.
• 40:20
  To be ridiculous for half a second.
• 40:22
  Well, Anubis, you did. You did.
• 40:24
  You prepared something or you had something sent to you.
• 40:30
  Oh. I do not have that yet.
• 40:34
  They still need to upload that to me.
• 40:36
  They still they're uploading that to you?
• 40:39
  That's so weird because I thought you uploaded it to me.
• 40:43
  That was text only. Yeah, you are so.
• 40:47
  You want me to read? It like that.
• 40:50
  Is your is yours. You wrote it.
• 40:52
  It was wonderful. OK, I'll just say for my guests,
• 40:59
  if you send me something like a a, a, a theatrical piece that
• 41:06
  you wrote and you just straight up send it to me without any
• 41:10
  context, I'm assuming next episode that you're gonna want
• 41:15
  to read that. We can have Tav read.
• 41:20
  We can make Tav do it. He has trouble.
• 41:23
  Reading. Yeah, you know what?
• 41:25
  Good, good Tav pop on there into the resources tab.
• 41:31
  And give. Us Give us a Stanton News.
• 41:33
  Update Stanton NEWS UPDATE News sounds Zeno throw out in the
• 41:39
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• 41:45
  indicated on indicted on corruption charges and why the
• 41:50
  new High Court rulings may see him go free if And finally, if
• 41:56
  you if you know. Tab, Can you do me a favor?
• 42:00
  Can you restart that? I can't do it.
• 42:02
  Because you really, you know, you really butchered this whole
• 42:04
  thing. Like what do you want me to do?
• 42:06
  Start over. Do it again.
• 42:07
  Do it again. We're gonna get a dead air.
• 42:12
  Did I do it? Well done, Anubis.
• 42:15
  Thank you so much. That's broken.
• 42:19
  Thank you. You want me to read it or?
• 42:22
  Yeah, read it. Read it.
• 42:23
  You have to. All right, all right, all right,
• 42:25
  all right. Here we go.
• 42:26
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• 42:28
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• 42:34
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• 42:37
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• 42:41
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• 44:01
  Duke Lado the Second welcome to Open Comms Radio, your Star
• 44:05
  Citizen call in show. Thank you for joining us today.
• 44:08
  Today's question What's your favorite sci-fi trope you'd like
• 44:12
  to see in Star Citizen? Aliens.
• 44:17
  Hey. That's it.
• 44:19
  I I want to see the aliens and not just, you know, not blue.
• 44:22
  Tentacles. Well, let's not get crazy.
• 44:26
  I mean, I want to see them in in the flesh graphically, not via
• 44:31
  communication technology in the game.
• 44:33
  Like I want to interact with them, hang out with them, see
• 44:37
  them walking around on planets and stuff.
• 44:39
  Reach. Yeah.
• 44:41
  I just, I just feel like it would really add, add to the
• 44:46
  feeling of, of the universe being alive to have aliens going
• 44:49
  around doing their business. So you say aliens, what do you?
• 44:54
  What do you think? And you close your eyes, you
• 44:55
  think of aliens. What are you thinking?
• 44:58
  I mean, I, I'm excited for the Tavarin.
• 45:00
  I really want to see, you know, some kind of.
• 45:04
  Snooty. People.
• 45:05
  Giant cockatoo, you know, giving me a hard time and maybe giving
• 45:12
  me some missions. Interesting, interesting.
• 45:17
  I think they were interesting like culturally, the idea of,
• 45:21
  you know, a race where amongst themselves when they would
• 45:24
  fight, like the, you know, the loser would just take the
• 45:27
  winner's culture and identity unto themselves.
• 45:32
  And it's interesting how that as a cultural trait of the species
• 45:37
  sort of killed their whole way of life because, you know, they
• 45:41
  lost the Tavarian wars of the humans.
• 45:43
  They get subsumed by the EUE and then they just, they literally
• 45:47
  just abandoned their own culture and history in order to be more
• 45:50
  human because that's what they do.
• 45:53
  That's crazy. It's interesting.
• 45:56
  I, I, it, it, it, it is like so baffling to me how like how
• 46:03
  someone thought of that because abandoning your culture like
• 46:07
  willingly is it's just not something that we see
• 46:12
  historically. And so it is so.
• 46:14
  Actually, no, it yeah, No, we do.
• 46:17
  So the, the one of the most well known sort of examples that
• 46:21
  people don't quite understand is the Norman conquest of England.
• 46:26
  You know, the Normans came in, they conquer England and you see
• 46:31
  a big cultural change amongst people.
• 46:34
  And it it used to be that people thought of it as the Normans
• 46:38
  were coming in and and slaughtering lots of people and
• 46:41
  just taking over. But actually, yeah.
• 46:45
  But genetically, they find that there weren't that many Normans.
• 46:49
  But what happened was you don't want to be associated with the
• 46:52
  losers. So you just you start dressing
• 46:55
  like the winners. You start trying to talk like
• 46:57
  them because they're the the powerful, they're the rich.
• 47:00
  So you want to fit in with them as much as you can and be
• 47:04
  associated with them, as opposed to being associated with the
• 47:09
  guys who just lost and whose power base is being ousted.
• 47:14
  Where were the Normans from? Normandy.
• 47:17
  Is that a real question? France.
• 47:20
  Yeah. You're telling me a bunch of
• 47:23
  English dudes started dressing like French dudes?
• 47:26
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 47:29
  Yep. And actually, so that's, you
• 47:31
  know, some of the borrowed French words that we have in the
• 47:34
  English language are obviously from this time period.
• 47:37
  And the best example of the the power difference between the two
• 47:40
  is the fact that we refer to cows and beef as two different
• 47:46
  words because the cow is the animal which the poor people
• 47:50
  would have managed. And then the beef from the
• 47:54
  French, which I'm not going to try to pronounce.
• 47:56
  But that's, you know, just the food which the French, the rich
• 47:59
  are only interested in the steak and the beef that was on my
• 48:02
  plate. And it's the same thing with
• 48:04
  mutton for sheep, with pork for for pigs.
• 48:08
  And so, yeah, it's interesting. But anyway.
• 48:11
  I mean, that's. I feel like we're going way off
• 48:13
  course here. Turkeys.
• 48:15
  Turkeys are from North America, so no.
• 48:17
  That was Turkey's Turkey, but. Turkey was named after Turkish
• 48:23
  sailors who like to eat Turkey, so they called them turkeys.
• 48:27
  Turkeys. Is that true?
• 48:31
  Yeah. See.
• 48:33
  Turkeys are named after Turkey, even though it's an American
• 48:36
  bird. I feel like they must have had
• 48:39
  another name to begin with because Turkey actually did
• 48:41
  spread to the old world really quickly.
• 48:43
  Yeah, but it was, it was a Native American word for and
• 48:46
  they probably, there were probably many words for turkeys
• 48:48
  because they're are all across North America.
• 48:51
  They were probably some Native American words and those were
• 48:54
  probably located with smallpox and murder.
• 49:00
  Murder. Going back to people abandoning
• 49:03
  culture, I mean that that did happen recently.
• 49:07
  I mean, even even with my grandfather, he refused to
• 49:12
  acknowledge, you know, his last name was Gallegos, you know.
• 49:17
  That's awesome, you know. I mean, it's, it's a they now,
• 49:22
  now they're. Yeah, and it happens all the
• 49:25
  time here in America. Yeah.
• 49:27
  But they've even been here since before, like New Mexico was a
• 49:32
  state or was a territory. But he was like, Nope, we're
• 49:38
  not. We're I'm not going to teach my
• 49:39
  kids Spanish. I'm not going to do any of that.
• 49:42
  You know, yeah, my grandfather did the same thing.
• 49:46
  He Sicilian, Italian. He didn't teach his kids any of
• 49:49
  the Italian language. And that's just it.
• 49:50
  So if if there are cultural pressures and disadvantages to
• 49:55
  maintaining your old culture, then people will will drop it.
• 50:00
  And I think that's what's fascinating with the Tavar and
• 50:02
  right, they just do it on a massive scale.
• 50:05
  Yeah. Yeah, They dropped their
• 50:07
  religion, they dropped their culture.
• 50:09
  They, you know, lost interest in their own history.
• 50:11
  And they're just like, Nope, you know, we lost.
• 50:14
  We're going to, we're going to integrate.
• 50:16
  So are the Tavarian very warrior like?
• 50:20
  They were, I mean, I don't, we still don't really know how
• 50:24
  they're how well they're integrating into humanity.
• 50:26
  And that's what I'd love to see. I think we've had glimpses or,
• 50:31
  or hints about them, you know, some of them serving in the
• 50:34
  military. I, I, in my mind, I picture them
• 50:39
  definitely because they were a very Marshall race.
• 50:42
  So I do picture them, you know, being mercenaries, fountain
• 50:45
  hunters a lot. And then, you know, taking part
• 50:49
  in the military where possible to, but I, I mean, I'd love to
• 50:52
  come across like some little colonies or something like that.
• 51:00
  Well, it's interesting that they're avian.
• 51:02
  They're they're bird like race and so many birds are predators.
• 51:09
  They're hunters, right? Probably.
• 51:13
  I think, I think most birds are, are predatory.
• 51:16
  Some eat berries and shit, but a lot of them, I mean, they're
• 51:19
  eating insects or they're eating small, small creatures.
• 51:22
  So if you're thinking of like a, a humanoid or a sentient version
• 51:28
  of that that makes fucking spaceships, they would, you
• 51:31
  know, you expect them to be predatory.
• 51:33
  But then again, I mean, human beings evolved from, you know,
• 51:38
  our, our hominin ancestors who were probably also, I mean,
• 51:43
  jury's out where they were like what they were probably just
• 51:45
  like us. If you go back in time and and
• 51:48
  you think about that. Super intelligent, vicious long
• 51:53
  distance runners. Or like in.
• 51:58
  I remember reading a a description once.
• 52:00
  It was talking about how because the the one thing human beings
• 52:04
  do better physically than any other animals is we run, can
• 52:08
  run. Longer we we cook better than
• 52:10
  all. Of that and and cook, but that's
• 52:12
  the so they you know they they guess and it makes sense based
• 52:16
  on what we see amongst surviving hunter gatherers today that we
• 52:19
  would just run our prey down. We're not better.
• 52:24
  We're not better than horses. We are.
• 52:28
  No, we're not. They are.
• 52:29
  Not. Not in terms of speed.
• 52:30
  We're not. We're slower than.
• 52:32
  So horses don't ride people, people ride horses.
• 52:39
  I I mean that I have no response to that.
• 52:42
  I'm gonna show the opposite. But.
• 52:45
  But if you're being chased by a horse, that horse isn't going to
• 52:49
  show up four days later while you're sleeping.
• 52:52
  It might the. Human will.
• 52:58
  We may be slow, but we were persistent.
• 53:00
  We were persistence hunters. Wow, this episode is going all
• 53:05
  over the place. All over the place.
• 53:06
  We're still staying on top, which I really like.
• 53:10
  But This is why I want aliens, you know, I want that that
• 53:12
  difference that, you know, the mystery of I, I want some
• 53:17
  difference in the way NPCS act. Let's give some ambiguity in the
• 53:22
  missions. Like, you know, let's say you're
• 53:24
  getting missions from Xi'an. I mean, I, I think this Gianna
• 53:28
  interesting too, because we, you know, we had this long Cold War
• 53:31
  with them and now relationships are a little bit better, but
• 53:34
  they apparently have like a a secret enemy on the other side
• 53:38
  of their territory from us. So how's that all going to?
• 53:42
  Love that bit of lore. I want to.
• 53:43
  See where that goes? Yeah.
• 53:45
  How's that all going to shake out?
• 53:47
  Like they, they're trying to keep us from meeting them
• 53:49
  because they obviously they don't want to risk what, what
• 53:52
  happens if we get along really well with those guys and then we
• 53:55
  end up going to war with the Xi'an in a center?
• 53:58
  You know, that's what they're trying to avoid.
• 54:01
  And maybe they'll try. God, did did any of you watch
• 54:04
  that show? Shit, what was that other show?
• 54:09
  It was by? It was created, also created by
• 54:12
  G. No, it was created by Gene
• 54:13
  Roddenberry like Star Trek Andromeda.
• 54:16
  Oh, Andromeda. Yeah.
• 54:17
  No, no, no, Nope. Nope.
• 54:18
  No. This one, the aliens come to
• 54:20
  Earth and they're giving us some technology, but they're actually
• 54:25
  just seekingly trying. Yes, yes.
• 54:27
  So they're actually just trying to train human beings and to,
• 54:31
  like, get us on their side because they're being chased by
• 54:34
  a much more deadly alien species.
• 54:38
  What if that ends up? What if like the Xi'an are
• 54:42
  trying to buddy up to us and they're sharing technology You.
• 54:45
  Know like we're seeing. We're seeing all this new Xi'an
• 54:47
  technology and it's really because they're like, man, we
• 54:49
  are, we're getting thrashed over here and we need these humans
• 54:52
  because they breed like, like rats and.
• 54:56
  Can can I tell you what I think about that trope?
• 54:58
  I, I, I, I've heard this somewhere and like, I read
• 55:01
  something. I don't know what happened.
• 55:04
  I think that is a trope that will be used, but it's not the
• 55:07
  Jian, it's the Vandool. The Vandool.
• 55:11
  Keeps pushing it on their side. No, no, the Vandool keep pushing
• 55:16
  into human space because they are being pushed out of their
• 55:20
  territory and they can't defeat their enemy, but they can defeat
• 55:25
  humans. OK, because we're doing there's
• 55:29
  history again with the different tribes and yeah, right.
• 55:33
  So there's another species pushing them too, yeah.
• 55:36
  Well, you don't have to dig far into it.
• 55:38
  The vandool, right, are just the vandals.
• 55:42
  Vandals. Yeah, and the.
• 55:43
  Vandals are being. Out of their territory, yeah.
• 55:45
  They. Yeah.
• 55:46
  Which is why we're going to fall over home at some point.
• 55:48
  Why? I don't think we're ever going
• 55:49
  to see Earth, because it's going to be burned.
• 55:52
  You know what? Yeah.
• 55:54
  We'll see Earth in a it'll just be a.
• 55:56
  It'll be a video of it getting burnt to a cinder.
• 56:00
  It'll just be a bunch of bowling alleys.
• 56:03
  But I feel like it's gone already, right it?
• 56:06
  It needs to be the Borg. It needs to be something that
• 56:09
  will come into the system and will be a giant event because
• 56:14
  there's this huge ship and now everyone in Stanton or Pyro or
• 56:18
  Knicks or whatever needs to needs to like try to take it
• 56:22
  out. It's that big.
• 56:23
  You got Idris is going after it. You got, I would.
• 56:26
  Like it to be? How about an insectoid race?
• 56:32
  You know, we've got like wids we've got, you know, kind of
• 56:38
  turtle looking guys. We've got.
• 56:39
  Yeah, we're. Hanging on all the tropes we
• 56:41
  need. A.
• 56:42
  A sort. Of tall ladybugs.
• 56:44
  A swarm, a swarm of and that could be like once they
• 56:48
  introduce drone technology into the game with working drones,
• 56:51
  you know, that could be like the the hallmark of this insectoid
• 56:57
  species. Not, you know, we don't want to
• 56:59
  trample on Ender's Game too much, but.
• 57:03
  Oh, they already do. I mean, they got terminus in the
• 57:05
  in, in the thing already. Come on.
• 57:09
  I just think that would be cooler that I mean, I know you
• 57:11
  were just talking about having like a big, like the really big
• 57:13
  bad that we'd have to team up on.
• 57:16
  I definitely think something like that would be more
• 57:18
  interesting and also more cohesive with the game design
• 57:22
  than something like, you know, like a giant Borg cube or
• 57:26
  something like that. Yeah, like it sends down a bunch
• 57:29
  of ships to go attack the cities and you got to stop all of them
• 57:32
  and into the cities. And then once you stop all them,
• 57:36
  then the mothership or whatever is more vulnerable and you can
• 57:40
  hit it with interests and spend $36 million on torpedoes
• 57:43
  shooting at it. And then it glitches in 30 KS.
• 57:49
  Yeah. I mean, I've, I'm excited about
• 57:54
  all of these things. I'll tell you this right now, I
• 57:58
  love the sci-fi tropes. I love, I love the notion of it.
• 58:02
  The only the only sci-fi trope that I really don't like across
• 58:07
  all sci-fi is that everyone's a bipedal humanoid and Star
• 58:13
  Citizen's kind of doing that. Everyone's a bipedal.
• 58:16
  I want to see sebulbas. I want to see insectoids.
• 58:19
  I want to see you know those. Need to go Jim Henson with it.
• 58:23
  You know, like. Yeah.
• 58:24
  Yeah, different sizes here. I mean, the problem then,
• 58:28
  because I mean, so the problem is do you want all these
• 58:32
  different beings to be able to interact with the ships, right,
• 58:36
  'cause you, you know, they're trying to be very structured now
• 58:41
  in like getting around the ships, making sure that the
• 58:45
  metrics are right. So obviously, if you've got
• 58:47
  something that looks like Snuffleupagus, you're not going
• 58:50
  to give, you're not going to be able to give Snuffles a ride
• 58:52
  between, you know, Seraphim Station and, and Everest unless
• 58:57
  you've got. Put him in the cargo.
• 58:59
  Bay unless you got AC2 and he's going to fit in the cargo Bay.
• 59:03
  I mean, it would kind of make sense that for metabolic
• 59:05
  processes, the size of the creature and what would be
• 59:10
  realistic as far as a atmosphere that's capable of producing fire
• 59:15
  to understand the concept of chemical conversion and have
• 59:18
  gravity that is decent for that. We are kind of being near Earth.
• 59:22
  So I would I would expect whatever intelligent race to be
• 59:25
  out of there to be roughly human size.
• 59:31
  How awesome. Is it?
• 59:32
  Yeah, size is a different thing. So we do have another caller in
• 59:36
  the waiting room. Everybody, if everyone could
• 59:38
  just scoot down a little bit. The couch gets bigger on this
• 59:41
  show. We have.
• 59:44
  Is it pneumatic or what? Just don't stick your fingers
• 59:48
  between the cushions is all I'm going to say.
• 59:51
  For unrelated reasons. It's just totally just something
• 59:54
  else. But this, this guy, this guy,
• 59:57
  y'all may know him. He's been here since day one.
• 1:00:01
  He's been hanging out with us. I was, I was worried.
• 1:00:04
  I don't know why I was worried. I was like, man, I don't know if
• 1:00:07
  this guy's gonna make it, but here he is, my old man, my way.
• 1:00:15
  Everyone's favorite grandfather Wicket welcome.
• 1:00:20
  To the. Comms Radio, your Star Citizen
• 1:00:22
  call and show how you doing today Wicket?
• 1:00:26
  Dirty on it, citizen. 22nd time caller and I almost forgot
• 1:00:36
  today, but somebody gave me a gentle nudge.
• 1:00:44
  Very good. I was deep in the deep in the
• 1:00:46
  sand, man. Real deep.
• 1:00:50
  Dude, wild, wild. Just FYI, your audio keeps
• 1:00:54
  dropping out jar jars. Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  So I am in the midst of an insane storm.
• 1:01:04
  Right now. Oh yeah, it's wild out there.
• 1:01:06
  I don't know if it's yeah, hobo's right by me, so I don't
• 1:01:09
  know if that's what it is. Maybe, maybe, I don't know
• 1:01:13
  everybody. Else is coming through.
• 1:01:14
  Does it happen if I go like this?
• 1:01:16
  Does it? Does it like move away if I move
• 1:01:18
  I? Don't know when you when you
• 1:01:19
  pull me up, I turn the audio of the stream down South.
• 1:01:24
  OK, well, anyway, I'm here now. You're here now.
• 1:01:29
  Oh, you know what? You know what happened?
• 1:01:33
  Yeah. I muted myself on fucking OBS.
• 1:01:37
  I I muted on something I don't know how long.
• 1:01:42
  Oh, wow. I don't know how long I've been
• 1:01:45
  there. Good shit.
• 1:01:49
  Oh, you sound fine to me. No.
• 1:01:52
  I could hear everybody else, but then there'd be like a a hull
• 1:01:55
  and nobody was saying anything. It's like, jeez, that's an
• 1:01:58
  awkward silent break. Yeah, no, it mutes it.
• 1:02:01
  It, it'll record it. It'll be fine for the recorded
• 1:02:04
  version. It's just the live version I
• 1:02:06
  heard for. But it doesn't.
• 1:02:07
  You guys, it doesn't matter. There were people listening to
• 1:02:09
  this. Who's everybody else?
• 1:02:11
  They're going to hear me regardless.
• 1:02:13
  Wicket What's your favorite sci-fi trope you want to see in
• 1:02:16
  Star Citizen? I, I, I had to look and see what
• 1:02:21
  the question was today. I had to kind of formulate a
• 1:02:23
  quick answer, but something they could have mind that I really
• 1:02:26
  enjoy in a lot of novels. I read a lot of sci-fi books is
• 1:02:32
  the sub opera, the space opera aspect of of good sci-fi
• 1:02:37
  storytelling, you know, with reoccurring characters, record
• 1:02:42
  storylines that, you know, they may wane, but then they come
• 1:02:45
  back and they're re addressed. And this could all be done in
• 1:02:49
  like these open events that we have.
• 1:02:51
  You know, they started doing this a little bit.
• 1:02:53
  Ruina Dooley, she. Yeah, some familiar names aren't
• 1:02:58
  there. I thought it popped up recently.
• 1:03:00
  And then there's the the sales guy that that's popped in and
• 1:03:04
  out in marketing material. He's not really that much in the
• 1:03:08
  game. I forget his name but.
• 1:03:11
  I want to trade. Not not him the the the shoe
• 1:03:16
  man. I forget.
• 1:03:18
  He's like a car salesman, almost.
• 1:03:20
  Oh my. But in in any event, the other
• 1:03:25
  the other major trope that I really enjoy is this idea of the
• 1:03:30
  hidden enemy. The, the, the, the unknown
• 1:03:35
  secret, the hidden enemy, the, the unknown danger that, you
• 1:03:40
  know, we're in the midst of some cataclysmic knife edge that
• 1:03:45
  could go either way and we're not even aware of it.
• 1:03:48
  And then it's discovered. And then, you know, what do you
• 1:03:51
  do? Do you spill the beans to the
• 1:03:53
  rest of the society and put everybody in the in, in into an
• 1:03:58
  existential crisis? Or do you and your team just
• 1:04:02
  handle the business, your business?
• 1:04:04
  I don't know how that would translate into a game, but this
• 1:04:07
  is one of the these really fascinating story tropes that I
• 1:04:10
  really enjoy reading about a lot and where, and this could be
• 1:04:16
  with reoccurring characters. It could be like they don't talk
• 1:04:20
  about this at all. There's no Galactopedia about
• 1:04:23
  it. It's just some shit that we
• 1:04:25
  discover in game and it's not talked about.
• 1:04:27
  It's not IA C's. It's not that that that that
• 1:04:32
  dude that's been doing all the missions, he doesn't talk.
• 1:04:34
  Nobody talks about it. It's just something that we
• 1:04:36
  discover and that's like the best, you know, way of learning
• 1:04:42
  in game stuff by playing game. You know, you don't know,
• 1:04:47
  obviously everybody knows about it, but you know will be first
• 1:04:55
  group or it may be Nuggets of information or or gameplay.
• 1:05:00
  Oh yeah. That isn't that aware of, you
• 1:05:04
  know, people come, you guys wait a minute.
• 1:05:07
  That's gonna happen over here and you have to put the puzzle
• 1:05:11
  piece together to see the hole. And I don't know if that's that
• 1:05:15
  will ever be able to be translated into a game or the
• 1:05:18
  our citizen. But if anybody could do it, I
• 1:05:19
  think CIG might be the, the, the developer that could, that could
• 1:05:22
  bring that to be. It'd be really fun.
• 1:05:26
  Because when you're reading books like that, you, you, you
• 1:05:29
  really never know, you know, how things are going to turn out,
• 1:05:32
  especially when you're reading new novels, new authors, because
• 1:05:34
  you don't know, you know, there's no, there's not this
• 1:05:37
  idea of main character syndrome because of the main character
• 1:05:40
  can't be killed. But in, in a lot of novels, that
• 1:05:43
  happens all the time. Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  It's that elite excelled at. You really did feel like you're.
• 1:05:57
  Well, I never played Elite that much.
• 1:05:59
  I've tried playing a little bit, but it was just wasn't my, my,
• 1:06:02
  my bag. But I, I've read some of the
• 1:06:05
  narratives about Elite Dangerous and about the, the lot of
• 1:06:09
  discovery that had to happen before people realize what was
• 1:06:13
  going on. That's something that I hope we
• 1:06:15
  will see in Star Citizen. It'll be really fun.
• 1:06:21
  Just look at some of the stuff that you know, you could easily
• 1:06:24
  go online or play and and read about stuff or you can go in and
• 1:06:29
  play the PTU. This is one of the reasons I be
• 1:06:32
  playing. I, I don't even consider NPTU
• 1:06:34
  for anything because I want to go in and play the game that I
• 1:06:39
  mean, it's not in the game. It's it's an alpha state.
• 1:06:42
  I want to go in and and under discover it, learn what's going
• 1:06:46
  on. I want to just read about Oh,
• 1:06:48
  you need you need AB and C to succeed at this, this process of
• 1:06:53
  feeling these worms and getting these fangs and these pearls.
• 1:06:56
  Everybody can do that. Anybody is, you know, but if you
• 1:06:59
  go in and learn it all happening, that's where the fun
• 1:07:04
  is the. Solution to make it more random
• 1:07:07
  in I guess just situationally I'm think so follow me through
• 1:07:13
  this. What if you had just an enemy
• 1:07:15
  class? I know I mentioned before the
• 1:07:16
  little, you know, face huggers from Alien, what if you had that
• 1:07:23
  class only, but you took that class and maybe there's a bunch
• 1:07:26
  of different types that based on where you are, there's a certain
• 1:07:30
  chance of different attributes that these enemy classes could
• 1:07:32
  have. So maybe some goes some of those
• 1:07:35
  aliens. Maybe they just like your cargo
• 1:07:37
  and they eat like all organic cargo or they eat a particular
• 1:07:41
  metal or they hang around on your engine and suck your engine
• 1:07:46
  power or, you know, maybe they do go somewhere and lay eggs and
• 1:07:50
  produce more of them. And so I'm just thinking having
• 1:07:53
  all these like, or just like maybe one kind of that kind of
• 1:07:56
  enemy type roughly like this, like small little Crawley on the
• 1:07:59
  ground thing. I know it's infinitely more, you
• 1:08:03
  know, process than what I just said, but I just think that
• 1:08:07
  would give it 'cause you land on a planet and it's just another
• 1:08:10
  thing on top of the radiation, on top of everything else.
• 1:08:14
  It's like oh if you see a critter and then Oh my gosh I
• 1:08:18
  did see a critter but but bit me.
• 1:08:20
  But I don't want to let my crew know, otherwise they're going to
• 1:08:22
  kill me. And now you have like 6 people.
• 1:08:26
  Kind of really having. Them tab I would never kill you.
• 1:08:30
  I would. Just.
• 1:08:33
  Anubis. Anubis would and I, but I would
• 1:08:35
  be like Anubis to. Have all the shield goes down.
• 1:08:36
  I love it. Like you know you won't need to
• 1:08:38
  kill tab. I don't.
• 1:08:40
  Have someone else kill. You you're right.
• 1:08:41
  But the biggest problem with all this stuff nowadays is, you
• 1:08:46
  know, as gamers, we tend to optimize the fun out of out of
• 1:08:51
  all this stuff, you know, instead of learn by doing
• 1:08:57
  bailing, pick yourself up, start again.
• 1:09:00
  Everybody needs to know exactly what to do, when to do it, how
• 1:09:03
  to do it, where to do it. And you know, it's it's you have
• 1:09:07
  to play everything optimally and it just, it just becomes, OK,
• 1:09:13
  I'm following the steps. Adci need to be in this ship.
• 1:09:17
  I need to wear this armor. I need this gun.
• 1:09:21
  Oh, we need this many, you know, it's, it's just like, oh Jesus,
• 1:09:24
  man. I mean, I'm totally with you on
• 1:09:27
  that. Like, I don't, I don't want I,
• 1:09:31
  I'm, I don't want them to share everything in an ISC.
• 1:09:34
  Like, I just want to play the game.
• 1:09:35
  It's it's good. I want to figure things out.
• 1:09:38
  Yeah, it's lame. And then you do it.
• 1:09:41
  And then if you're. If you're with a group of people
• 1:09:44
  that have, they've all figured it out either through reading
• 1:09:47
  about it or PTU ING it or testing this, that and the other
• 1:09:51
  what works the best? You know, now you're holding
• 1:09:55
  them back because they're like the optimal squad.
• 1:09:58
  They know every corner and and nook and cranny, which you know,
• 1:10:02
  that's fine. But you know, if you're late to
• 1:10:05
  the party, then you know you're either holding them back or
• 1:10:08
  they're spoiling it for you. So I don't know how to fix that.
• 1:10:11
  But I guess that's it comes down to a single player.
• 1:10:16
  You have to do a single player thing or solo.
• 1:10:19
  You know, it it going back to the greatest MMO of all time,
• 1:10:25
  Star Wars Galaxies. They had a path to get to Jedi.
• 1:10:31
  Nobody knew. Yeah, this was the original path
• 1:10:34
  to Jedi, which if you became Jedi and you died, that's it.
• 1:10:38
  Your character can only come back as a ghost.
• 1:10:42
  There was like perma death. So like it was huge stakes to
• 1:10:45
  get up to this. But it was it was it was an
• 1:10:47
  amazing thing. But the steps to get to being
• 1:10:51
  recognized as Force sensitive and now going on the path and
• 1:10:54
  then how that path laid out was was kind of random.
• 1:11:00
  And so you had to work at it in certain ways by doing certain
• 1:11:05
  things like you can increase your chances, but it was pretty
• 1:11:08
  much random. So when we can have those kind
• 1:11:11
  of journeys here that like just crash course you through like
• 1:11:16
  maybe a profession path or something like that, you just
• 1:11:18
  end up finding yourself. You wanted to go be a minor man.
• 1:11:23
  I didn't realize I was going to be a, you know, a, a delivery
• 1:11:27
  person. Like that's what I my calling
• 1:11:29
  was, you know, but like, it took you down that path.
• 1:11:32
  Or a dancer. A dancer.
• 1:11:35
  A dancer. Remember Star Wars Galaxies?
• 1:11:39
  They have the dancers. Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  Talking about these a few weeks ago.
• 1:11:43
  They would buff you, they would view extra health, they'd give
• 1:11:45
  you extra speed, they'd give you all sorts of things, and you
• 1:11:48
  would pay them to dance field or you would pay doctors to buff
• 1:11:52
  you. There were reasons for every
• 1:11:56
  nonviolent profession to support, well, let's say the
• 1:12:01
  violent professions, but they all fed into each other.
• 1:12:04
  This applies went back and forth.
• 1:12:06
  Well, that's nice, but my point was was I kind of see you as a
• 1:12:10
  dancer. No, I'm human.
• 1:12:16
  Oh, is there gonna be human dancers?
• 1:12:20
  What are Kevin Bacon? It can only be one or the other.
• 1:12:23
  There's no dancing in this town. Only Twilight.
• 1:12:26
  For you as they don't. Only.
• 1:12:30
  Only twilights in women with three breasts can be dancers.
• 1:12:34
  Oh. Yeah, that's a deep cut.
• 1:12:37
  It it was established in the sun.
• 1:12:38
  Humans have no rhythm. It's not not white ones.
• 1:12:48
  A Sandorians do. Yeah, 'cause you're blue.
• 1:12:53
  Well, yeah. What's the thing in Star Trek?
• 1:12:56
  The Andorians? There's a blue guys and they
• 1:12:58
  have the the antenna. What's their like shtick?
• 1:13:03
  They come from a, They come from a like a, let's say like a
• 1:13:08
  Europa or. Planet.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, it's like. Were were were they enslaved or
• 1:13:12
  something? Yeah, by Santa Claus.
• 1:13:14
  They were the original elves. They have a, they have a
• 1:13:18
  subspecies that's like albino and blinds and they were kind of
• 1:13:22
  looked down upon, but I don't think they were ever enslaved.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah, they weren't. They lived in underground
• 1:13:28
  cities. You're thinking of the Orion
• 1:13:30
  slave rules, which was. No.
• 1:13:33
  The anar. They're.
• 1:13:35
  Telepathic and blind and. They're all blind.
• 1:13:38
  No, I think. I think you're saying that the
• 1:13:40
  the slave thing was the the Orion's.
• 1:13:44
  Yeah, and that was air quotes Redcon.
• 1:13:49
  When was that redcon? In enterprise, when it's
• 1:13:53
  discovered that the females actually control the men with
• 1:13:57
  their. That was revealed to.
• 1:13:58
  Me. Oh nice.
• 1:13:59
  That was that was revealed in the original series as well.
• 1:14:02
  Look, I don't mind that. Put that in sources.
• 1:14:04
  I'm cool with that. I will.
• 1:14:06
  I'll be fine. I'll thrive.
• 1:14:09
  I'll thrive, dude, I'll be all right y'all.
• 1:14:12
  Y'all do you do you. I'm hanging out there.
• 1:14:15
  They're. Going to give you a little hat
• 1:14:17
  with a zipper in it. Well, I find it interesting that
• 1:14:21
  the Banu are slavers. Well, you know, 'cause they're,
• 1:14:26
  I mean, they're, they're essentially the Ferengi of Star
• 1:14:29
  Citizen, but they're more jovial 'cause you know, they'll,
• 1:14:35
  they'll buy and sell anything. Like they just, they just want
• 1:14:37
  to be buying and selling and making deals.
• 1:14:39
  And that includes slavery or I guess they're more indentured
• 1:14:44
  servitude. But they do, you know, there's,
• 1:14:47
  there's things in the there's things in the lore about them
• 1:14:52
  selling slaves to other species. So obviously they're doing that
• 1:14:57
  and they're not, you know, they're not particularly
• 1:14:59
  concerned about them being intentioned servants.
• 1:15:01
  They're straight up selling slaves.
• 1:15:03
  And it's they've mentioned humans a lot, which makes sense
• 1:15:08
  because in this universe, just like in many others, you know,
• 1:15:11
  humans are portrayed as those kind of like I said earlier, you
• 1:15:15
  know, they, we breed like rats. We just.
• 1:15:19
  Keep expanding, keep keep going to new planets and colonizing
• 1:15:24
  and spreading and expanding. So that's our great gift.
• 1:15:28
  Our great gift is is doing the deed and popping out babies.
• 1:15:33
  I mean hell, we don't even know how many point people are
• 1:15:36
  actually on this planet. It's supposed to be like 8.2
• 1:15:39
  billion, but it could be as much as almost 10.
• 1:15:42
  We don't know because we actually haven't done official
• 1:15:45
  censuses in parts of the world. Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  And in those parts of the world, there tend to be a lot of
• 1:15:51
  people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:55
  Well, all I have to do is structurally birth rate.
• 1:15:57
  I mean, it's, it's not a, it's not a hard number, but.
• 1:16:00
  Nah, I mean that's how little metrics you can go by because
• 1:16:05
  there's not that much. Statistics.
• 1:16:08
  It's just statistics. You know, there's, this is the
• 1:16:10
  birth rate in this country, the average amount of people are
• 1:16:13
  here. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:16:15
  I mean. It's, it's just, you know, I
• 1:16:17
  think. We have a pretty good idea.
• 1:16:19
  But they are finding that they are finding that those models
• 1:16:23
  are falling short right now, which is which is the current
• 1:16:26
  issue that has popped up recently.
• 1:16:28
  About. They're actually finding that
• 1:16:31
  they're they don't actually have all the data to extrapolate in a
• 1:16:34
  correct manner and that it they we could be very underestimating
• 1:16:38
  at the moment. That's the thing about the lore,
• 1:16:40
  right? You look at a planet like Arc
• 1:16:44
  Arc Corp, it's covered in a city.
• 1:16:48
  There's got to be billions of human beings there, right?
• 1:16:51
  Yeah. I mean, otherwise it wouldn't
• 1:16:53
  make sense to expend the resources to do that in any way.
• 1:16:56
  So like, what, you know, what is the human population in the Star
• 1:17:00
  Citizen universe? It's got to be we.
• 1:17:04
  I would imagine we're going to be talking like close to a
• 1:17:06
  trillion. Remember, most of the planets
• 1:17:09
  are like what, 1/4 of the size is the real planets or even less
• 1:17:14
  than that? Yeah.
• 1:17:15
  Oh, you know what? I want to, I want to bring this
• 1:17:17
  up. So there's been talk about the
• 1:17:21
  planets. It's talk and I I expect some
• 1:17:24
  controversy here. Oh, they're whisked round.
• 1:17:28
  They're round. Yeah, so I heard they're flat.
• 1:17:31
  They bound. I heard.
• 1:17:34
  They're. Flat.
• 1:17:35
  They should be that able first. The planets in Star Citizen are
• 1:17:40
  20%. They're 1/5 the size of the
• 1:17:44
  planets in actual reality. How do you feel about the notion
• 1:17:52
  of increasing the planet size? I'll tell you all, I am 100% in
• 1:17:58
  favor of increasing the planet size with them.
• 1:18:02
  Half the size, 3/4 make them. I'd prefer them to be 1 to 1.
• 1:18:07
  I understand the limitations. I understand why that ought not
• 1:18:13
  to be done from a development perspective.
• 1:18:16
  Just finish the game. I get all that, but I feel like
• 1:18:19
  these planets look fucking small when I'm flying around them.
• 1:18:24
  They just feel small to me. They used to be bigger.
• 1:18:29
  Well, that's what she said. You.
• 1:18:32
  Wait, there was a downsizing of the planets?
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, they downsizing. I don't remember your end.
• 1:18:36
  Few years ago, yeah, it used to be bigger.
• 1:18:39
  They snuck that one in on me. I find I feel like I don't care
• 1:18:43
  unless making them bigger is going to improve gameplay in
• 1:18:48
  some way. I say make them smaller.
• 1:18:51
  This guy. The reason the.
• 1:18:53
  Reason is that guy the. The reason that they're too big
• 1:18:57
  now, because you hardly ever see anybody.
• 1:19:00
  It's either make keep them the same size and then, you know,
• 1:19:04
  increase the player population per Shard or whatever, because
• 1:19:08
  there's nothing going on, man. The the only time you ever the
• 1:19:11
  only time you ever see anybody is if you know you're you're
• 1:19:14
  you're going to these PO is basically the worm Shubin this,
• 1:19:20
  you know. Art.
• 1:19:21
  Land Plants. You're you're going to.
• 1:19:23
  That's what's going to change it.
• 1:19:24
  You're you're going station. Orbital marker, you're going,
• 1:19:27
  you know, that's the only time you see anybody.
• 1:19:29
  But if you're flying around, you rarely see anybody.
• 1:19:33
  Well, when you were, when we were getting all that cargo, the
• 1:19:37
  corundum and the copper and the Detroit light or whatever, and
• 1:19:42
  all that other garbage that made us hundreds of millions of of
• 1:19:45
  credits. I saw people everywhere and that
• 1:19:49
  was fun. The only place I saw.
• 1:19:51
  People were standing in in line at kiosks.
• 1:19:55
  I got pirated several times. I got boarded, I got knocked out
• 1:20:01
  and dragged out and thrown out into space.
• 1:20:04
  It was fun and I saw people. I mean, they got to make it
• 1:20:07
  attractive is the only thing. Just just make it an everyday
• 1:20:11
  attractive thing. Listen, I, I, you know,
• 1:20:15
  everybody knew where all the ice was.
• 1:20:17
  Everybody knew where. What was the other thing that we
• 1:20:19
  were hunting ice and. 10 it. Was correct 1010 maybe?
• 1:20:25
  No. No.
• 1:20:25
  No, no. The way you make.
• 1:20:26
  One, I think it was ice and 10. Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  That's that was the money maker. That other shit was this.
• 1:20:33
  That was a waste of time, but. Where the hell are they going to
• 1:20:37
  get ice from if not from space? Well, the there was only certain
• 1:20:42
  places where ice was very plentiful and and they were
• 1:20:45
  around. Air Los Angeles Ice They're
• 1:20:47
  plentiful in Los Angeles. I hardly ever saw.
• 1:20:51
  Anybody in my neck of the woods now?
• 1:20:53
  Then then on on the planets there was like, what was it,
• 1:20:56
  Pyro 4 or one of the moons had a bunch of tin on it.
• 1:21:00
  I saw the whole time we were we were going after that one night
• 1:21:05
  we saw somebody one night, another mole.
• 1:21:10
  I mean, it was, we saw, I don't know, it's very, it's very,
• 1:21:15
  yeah, very sparse. And I and I wouldn't expect to
• 1:21:18
  see a lot of people because you guys have no sense of scale when
• 1:21:24
  it comes to space. Space is.
• 1:21:27
  It's so big. It's ridiculous.
• 1:21:32
  So we make it bigger, I get it. We make the planets bigger.
• 1:21:35
  Got it. No, that's why I say make them
• 1:21:37
  smaller. So you have not played, you have
• 1:21:42
  not played elite much, have you? No.
• 1:21:46
  You never. See anybody there either?
• 1:21:48
  There are times where you're straight up flying for 1/2 hour
• 1:21:52
  an hour like it at full warp like it.
• 1:21:57
  It's that big. Yeah.
• 1:22:01
  You really don't see anybody, but if Star Citizen does, its
• 1:22:05
  regional shards. So you have the North America
• 1:22:08
  Shard and you have a couple thousand players with larger
• 1:22:14
  space and larger distances then it's worth it's worth it.
• 1:22:17
  And make sure there's like proximity chat instead of this
• 1:22:22
  global bullshit. I mean, we haven't seen an
• 1:22:27
  improvement in regards to servers for quite some time now,
• 1:22:32
  basically this whole year in January or so.
• 1:22:38
  Weren't all the people behind that technology?
• 1:22:39
  Didn't they all quit or get fired?
• 1:22:43
  What? Yeah, a few of the key guys did
• 1:22:48
  well, they didn't like quit angrily.
• 1:22:50
  They just. They were like, all right, I was
• 1:22:52
  hired to do this project and I'm done.
• 1:22:55
  So, you know, now I'm. They're not done.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah. But well, they accomplished the
• 1:23:01
  server meshing to the extent that they were hired to do and
• 1:23:04
  wanted to do. I mean, these guys were like,
• 1:23:07
  you know, programming rock stars.
• 1:23:09
  And they're like, all right, I did it.
• 1:23:10
  I'm off to do something else that interests me.
• 1:23:14
  You know, not that not everyone wants to work for CIG for their
• 1:23:17
  whole life. I know that sounds shocking, but
• 1:23:21
  it is true. I'm going to throw up the
• 1:23:24
  resume. Yeah, I don't want to say I'm
• 1:23:27
  not impressed with the server machine because I I am.
• 1:23:31
  I am a little impressed, but it's it's still short of what it
• 1:23:35
  needs to be. Yeah, compared to games like
• 1:23:39
  Planetside, I can see that you know when when you have the
• 1:23:43
  large scale battles. Yeah, like we need if if you're
• 1:23:49
  going to do the regional you. Know.
• 1:23:51
  Yeah, but the amounts or? Whatever.
• 1:23:53
  Space, the amount of structures, the amount of items that they're
• 1:23:58
  including in the serum meshing is orders of magnitude greater
• 1:24:02
  than than planetside. Yeah.
• 1:24:07
  But it's always. Been 20 years.
• 1:24:11
  Yeah, but I just, I always find it interesting people want to
• 1:24:13
  compare it to other things where you're like, it's, it's a
• 1:24:15
  totally different beast, the. Current.
• 1:24:18
  System. Seems to work well enough.
• 1:24:20
  The level of fidelity is a lot is is a lot higher than SC, but
• 1:24:25
  there's still, you know, there's still a ways to go.
• 1:24:28
  As you approach. In the center of Pyro, as you're
• 1:24:31
  going towards like the isn't there these server kind of
• 1:24:35
  hitches barriers as you kind of migrate through the?
• 1:24:39
  Yeah, they used to be a lot worse when they drop you out
• 1:24:41
  entirely, which thankfully they fixed that.
• 1:24:44
  But that means that means the systems connect, you know,
• 1:24:47
  theoretically working. That's, you know, it's almost a
• 1:24:49
  sub Shard, right? There are a subset of servers
• 1:24:51
  that could be running compartmentally these different
• 1:24:54
  hangers that spin up, everything spins up naturally and that
• 1:24:58
  would keep make it to where as you arrive, like if nobody else
• 1:25:02
  is there, if you might just get put in with somebody else,
• 1:25:05
  right? Instancing, Yeah, we need more
• 1:25:08
  of that. Any more?
• 1:25:09
  Instancing, I mean I, I mean, I, I guess I do compare it to
• 1:25:13
  Planetside in the fact that I do have faith that it can pull that
• 1:25:16
  off. It just needs ways to get people
• 1:25:20
  together once it does that. Well the best way to bring
• 1:25:28
  people together is make a make a rare resource that everybody
• 1:25:31
  wants to to use currency or use as fuel or use as crafting
• 1:25:38
  material. Give your give people a reason
• 1:25:40
  to fight over stuff and you you won't have a hard time finding
• 1:25:44
  people. But I would argue why.
• 1:25:47
  Why are we bringing people together?
• 1:25:50
  The game I I would like to see the game be able to stand on its
• 1:25:55
  own without other people. Evan why make an MMO?
• 1:25:59
  No. No, no, no, I'm saying you talk.
• 1:26:03
  It's always about. It's got to be these big events.
• 1:26:05
  It's got to be people fighting over this resource constantly.
• 1:26:09
  But if you can't choose to sometimes spend time on your own
• 1:26:13
  and have that be like a fun and rewarding experience, I I think
• 1:26:17
  that's a big weakness of the game as well.
• 1:26:19
  Well, I think that's one of the things that base building will
• 1:26:22
  really improve. 100% the the the the the game already strives at
• 1:26:27
  being alone. It works really well-being.
• 1:26:30
  Alone it works way better in a group.
• 1:26:33
  No it. Yeah, it does.
• 1:26:35
  I think you see all of these standbox.
• 1:26:37
  Activities. There's nothing to do by
• 1:26:39
  yourself. I disagree.
• 1:26:40
  I I think being alone is fine, but you do see a lot of people
• 1:26:43
  talking about that. Well, there's there's no
• 1:26:46
  personal growth, There's no, no wait, you've been playing a.
• 1:26:49
  Lot of Dune. And you've been playing a lot of
• 1:26:52
  Dune with with us. Like were you playing a lot of
• 1:26:56
  Dune on your own? For sure.
• 1:26:59
  And you said like the the story in Dune was the best.
• 1:27:03
  And now you have like a second character and you're doing that
• 1:27:06
  mostly by yourself. Like that's as you've put how
• 1:27:09
  many hours into that game mostly alone and star.
• 1:27:16
  Citizen I. Think whatever that was and is *
• 1:27:22
  citizen I think needs to replicate that.
• 1:27:25
  Kind of like if if I go into Star Citizen alone, I like to
• 1:27:30
  mine. I enjoy it but I'm not going to
• 1:27:33
  do it for like 2 hours because I don't have or like a goal to to
• 1:27:38
  work toward. All you can grind is money.
• 1:27:41
  All you can grind is money and then all you can buy with money
• 1:27:44
  or ships. And frankly, I bought the ships
• 1:27:47
  I want with my hard earned real world money so I don't need the
• 1:27:52
  money to for anything in Star Citizen.
• 1:27:55
  Literally. What if you fought for
• 1:27:57
  territory? What if you had the territory
• 1:28:01
  that you are fighting for? You turn Damar into Hurston
• 1:28:05
  territory or some bull crap like that.
• 1:28:07
  Like like you could fight for that and then they back your ass
• 1:28:11
  up. That's what we're saying, bro.
• 1:28:13
  The the point I was trying to make in Star Citizen is fine, is
• 1:28:17
  it works fine alone is on your own.
• 1:28:20
  And being alone is you don't have to participate in anything.
• 1:28:25
  You can just get in your ship, pick a direction, go that way,
• 1:28:30
  do whatever you want. Go to this area, go to this
• 1:28:34
  planet, mine this, participate in this, Don't participate in
• 1:28:38
  it. There's, there's, there's.
• 1:28:40
  I mean, it works just fine. You don't have to interact with
• 1:28:42
  anybody. Well, yeah, I mean, you don't
• 1:28:45
  even have to log into the game. You can just sit in front of
• 1:28:48
  your computer and stare at a black screen.
• 1:28:50
  Well, that's not the point I'm trying to make.
• 1:28:52
  As far as playing the game, you can choose to not participate in
• 1:28:56
  that. The reason I'm bringing it up to
• 1:28:58
  be you want to bring people together is because there's
• 1:29:02
  conflict and once there's conflict and, and there's a
• 1:29:05
  reason to have conflict, there's a reason to mine, there's a
• 1:29:09
  reason to get territory. You know, once that becomes part
• 1:29:12
  of the the experience there, I think there will be a lot more
• 1:29:17
  interaction between the players there.
• 1:29:19
  You know, there sides will be chosen or you can choose not to
• 1:29:23
  participate in that activity. You can just keep doing whatever
• 1:29:26
  you're doing and maybe a market will evolve and you can figure
• 1:29:31
  out a way to monetize your time in game if you want to, and, and
• 1:29:37
  sell your goods that you've mined or crafted or whatever.
• 1:29:40
  Or you can decide, oh, I really want to participate in this
• 1:29:43
  group activity to try to get the fangs, get the pearls, or maybe
• 1:29:48
  hold that territory. Because if I can hold that
• 1:29:51
  territory and defend it, there's a rare resource there that I
• 1:29:55
  need to extract from the ground and let my industrial players go
• 1:29:59
  in and do industrial gameplay while my more PvP focus players,
• 1:30:06
  whether it's FPS or ship combat, they're they're say satiating
• 1:30:12
  their need to play, play that type of gameplay.
• 1:30:15
  In other words, there's a role for everybody, but you have to
• 1:30:19
  have that. That conflict is the driver.
• 1:30:22
  And then and that's like that in a lot of Mmos, in a lot of
• 1:30:25
  games. But I would argue that the
• 1:30:27
  conflict is, you know, a conflict is part of it obviously
• 1:30:30
  is a big part, but more importantly, is that
• 1:30:33
  progression, right? Like if we're if we're fighting
• 1:30:36
  over resources, if we're fighting over, you know, special
• 1:30:39
  currencies and think, what's the point?
• 1:30:42
  Like there's gotta be some other way to progress.
• 1:30:44
  And I think that's what the promise of the base building, of
• 1:30:49
  the manufacturing and even of the, you know, the organization
• 1:30:55
  rewards and, and that sort of system, that's what that can
• 1:30:58
  really provide. Because like I, I'm a person.
• 1:31:02
  I, I don't know why I've participated in tons of worm
• 1:31:05
  hunts and, and other events and I pretty much never take the
• 1:31:10
  special currency. It's not, I'm just not
• 1:31:12
  interested because it's just, you just use it to buy a ship
• 1:31:16
  or, or a new vehicle. And I'm like, I mean, I, I can
• 1:31:19
  grind for that in some other way or, or I, I don't really need
• 1:31:22
  it, but if I could actually grind a Rep that persisted and
• 1:31:28
  really meant something, or if I could stockpile valuable
• 1:31:33
  resources with my org, which could then be shared towards,
• 1:31:38
  you know, building bases or getting special ships like that
• 1:31:41
  the whole org can use. Like that's something that is
• 1:31:45
  worth the time, that's worth the conflict.
• 1:31:48
  So like the conflict is good. The conflict in and of itself is
• 1:31:51
  is entertainment, but we need that progression to really lock
• 1:31:56
  people into it. Like you can hit a beacon that
• 1:31:59
  calls in a couple of those factions that you have really
• 1:32:02
  good Rep in and then they call, they call in some backup for you
• 1:32:06
  that. 'D be.
• 1:32:08
  Cool, Ellen's coming to help you, Anubis.
• 1:32:12
  I know. Frontier fighters, the, the, the
• 1:32:21
  one thing you know we're missing in, in Star Citizens, as far as
• 1:32:24
  Emma, you know, we don't have a, a skill system.
• 1:32:27
  You know, there's no skills to learn.
• 1:32:28
  There's no skills to grind it. Skill is an actual skill.
• 1:32:32
  You know how well you shoot in FPS, how well you fly or you
• 1:32:36
  know, and that that's earned through play.
• 1:32:39
  You know, the the more combat you do, the better you're going
• 1:32:41
  to probably get at it. I like that about it.
• 1:32:44
  A lot of people like that. About it Yeah of course but you
• 1:32:48
  know you're what you're describing is you know a Rep
• 1:32:50
  system that actually works or you know I'm I'm hoping what we
• 1:32:55
  don't get is like now we're getting all the script you know
• 1:32:58
  there's another currency that you know I I.
• 1:33:01
  Do not like that. I hate that myself, you know?
• 1:33:05
  It's just because, you know, it gets abandoned there.
• 1:33:07
  Like as soon as they bring out the new one, people abandon it
• 1:33:10
  and go to the new one. Well, part of that is again,
• 1:33:12
  because there's no real economy, there's no real progression.
• 1:33:17
  If there was, you know, people would still be doing Hathor like
• 1:33:19
  crazy, right? If if the Hathor gems or
• 1:33:22
  whatever really mattered, like if you could use that to produce
• 1:33:26
  you know what a much better power plant for your ship that
• 1:33:29
  they would always be a reason to go back.
• 1:33:31
  There. It wouldn't even have to be a a
• 1:33:33
  a much better power play, it would just have to be slightly
• 1:33:36
  better. Right.
• 1:33:38
  But right now it's abandoned. It's like, OK, I thought it was
• 1:33:40
  cool, but now there's something new.
• 1:33:42
  Now you go, it used to be you had to, you know, you had to
• 1:33:45
  bring a group like we're doing with the worm.
• 1:33:47
  Now it's possible to do Hathor solo.
• 1:33:51
  Not saying that's always the case, but it's possible now When
• 1:33:53
  before it was like, Nah, you you got to bring the org because if
• 1:33:58
  everyone's off to the the shiny and new.
• 1:34:00
  And I think, I mean, obviously they're not doing this on
• 1:34:02
  purpose to hurt themselves, but it definitely the lack of a
• 1:34:07
  progression, the lack of something else to pull all this
• 1:34:10
  into and connect it to definitely hurts their own their
• 1:34:15
  own efforts. You know, they put tons of
• 1:34:18
  effort into Hathor and it's cool as shit, but now it's they've
• 1:34:23
  got to produce something new. They got to keep people
• 1:34:25
  interested by just doing something new to push that
• 1:34:27
  conflict towards right to get people together and get
• 1:34:30
  something exciting happening. Whereas they'd be much better
• 1:34:34
  off if we just had an economy and something to sink all this
• 1:34:38
  into where it actually brought you back.
• 1:34:41
  Yeah, loops. Need half or mats for Wickelow.
• 1:34:45
  But Wickelow is not enough of a it's she's not enough of a
• 1:34:49
  progression. So it it's weak, it's weak.
• 1:34:57
  We have they fixed the exec hangers where the ships are now
• 1:35:00
  spawning with the correct parts or do they retroactively?
• 1:35:06
  Are they going to? Are they retroactively fixing
• 1:35:09
  the ships that were? Rewarding.
• 1:35:12
  I think I saw something that said that they were not going to
• 1:35:15
  because they didn't have a way to do that supposedly.
• 1:35:20
  I mean they only developed the game.
• 1:35:23
  I'm like, well, the ship is listed in my hangar as the
• 1:35:26
  whatever the the PY whatever Exec edition.
• 1:35:31
  Wouldn't it be easy to just let me just go in and let me
• 1:35:33
  translate this? Let me let me translate this for
• 1:35:37
  you. That would cost some development
• 1:35:39
  time, AKA money. So no, we're not going to be
• 1:35:42
  doing that. They're just running it through
• 1:35:45
  AI like everybody else is with programming nowadays.
• 1:35:49
  No one's no no one's wasting time.
• 1:35:51
  You crunch six months into a week now.
• 1:35:53
  That's why the patches are coming out so quick.
• 1:35:55
  They're just running it through AII.
• 1:35:57
  Mean. If you're not, if you're not,
• 1:35:59
  then you're in your mind, honestly.
• 1:36:05
  Scary thought. I'm and I'm legit, so I'm legit
• 1:36:09
  using AI and Tavis too. We're using AI and we have our
• 1:36:12
  own little projects, like little video game projects.
• 1:36:17
  There is a yeah, it is AI changed, sucks.
• 1:36:20
  AI cannot think let. Me tell you it's terrible.
• 1:36:23
  It cannot. It cannot think.
• 1:36:25
  It cannot identify a problem effectively.
• 1:36:30
  It cannot think about the possible issues with the own
• 1:36:35
  code that it's written itself. There's.
• 1:36:38
  Limitations. There's a.
• 1:36:40
  Lot of limitations. I've been learning how to use
• 1:36:44
  Unity with this project I'm doing that I'll announce when
• 1:36:47
  I'm ready to. But and I've been using AI to do
• 1:36:53
  the scripting, but an AI can write, it can write a script and
• 1:36:57
  the script can be, you know, functional and and good enough.
• 1:37:01
  But it it'll have some errors or this or that and it can't, it
• 1:37:07
  can't match what it's already written in the script with the
• 1:37:14
  steps that need to be taken in the Unity back end, the in the
• 1:37:19
  Unity system. So like it'll do something twice
• 1:37:24
  and it won't know that it did something twice.
• 1:37:28
  And then I'll be like why is this happening twice and it
• 1:37:30
  won't know and I'll have to figure it out.
• 1:37:33
  So I don't know what you're doing.
• 1:37:35
  Yeah, you. You have to, you have to have
• 1:37:37
  some idea of how the systems work and what they're doing to
• 1:37:41
  identify the problems. If you identify the problem and
• 1:37:45
  if the problem can be solved in scripting and then you say, hey,
• 1:37:50
  here's my problem, fix the script to solve this problem.
• 1:37:55
  AI it can do it. Chachi BT can do it.
• 1:37:58
  Maybe it'll do it in two times. Maybe it'll come up with an
• 1:38:01
  error at first, but it'll fix it and they'll do it much quicker
• 1:38:04
  than like a human being will be able to do it.
• 1:38:06
  So there is like a certain benefit there, but that's just
• 1:38:10
  because like it's a like it's a scripted thing.
• 1:38:14
  It knows how to read that language and it can do that over
• 1:38:17
  and over. It's not a thinking thing.
• 1:38:18
  It's a language learning model and it's learned the language of
• 1:38:23
  scripting. It's the same thing that if you
• 1:38:25
  asked it to write a sentence in German or in another language,
• 1:38:31
  it could just do it because it can translate the words, because
• 1:38:34
  it can just look the, it like knows the language instantly
• 1:38:37
  because it's a computer, right? And it can translate.
• 1:38:41
  That's kind of all it's doing. It's not like there's no
• 1:38:46
  thinking happening, not really. Instead of scouring forums,
• 1:38:51
  instead of trying to Google all these things and read through
• 1:38:55
  documentation that you've read through 15 times and it's still
• 1:38:59
  not explaining it properly, it just puts it all together and
• 1:39:04
  tells you how it works. And then, you know, maybe it's,
• 1:39:10
  I mean, it depends on the model. It works.
• 1:39:12
  Better models will tell you how it works.
• 1:39:14
  When I hear AI as, as it's being used in this context, all I hear
• 1:39:20
  is regurgitation engine because basically that's all it's doing.
• 1:39:24
  It's regurgitating a bunch of shit that it's found in the
• 1:39:27
  database that we call the Internet of, of or whatever
• 1:39:34
  access to the Internet it has. You know, at first I wouldn't
• 1:39:37
  let him on the Internet. Now they let him on the Internet
• 1:39:40
  these these regurgitation engines and basically it and it,
• 1:39:46
  it will also make the same mistakes people other people
• 1:39:49
  have made and have posted online and and you can see that
• 1:39:52
  sometimes in code, it writes code with errors in it because
• 1:39:56
  these are the examples it found that had these errors
• 1:39:59
  impregnated. Into them because I do I was
• 1:40:02
  like, I was like, how are you? How is this code have errors?
• 1:40:05
  When I first started using, I was like what?
• 1:40:07
  And then I realized like, oh, like, yeah, it's just like
• 1:40:09
  regurgitating stuff exactly what you're saying.
• 1:40:12
  So it's. Plagiarism machine.
• 1:40:14
  That's just what AI is these days.
• 1:40:16
  Well, when it comes to. Code, it's not a little bit
• 1:40:19
  more, it's not thinking about your instance, it's not thinking
• 1:40:23
  about all the all the different assets and variations.
• 1:40:26
  Yeah, it's not taking all of that into account many times.
• 1:40:30
  It's like. Doing what you specifically
• 1:40:33
  asked it to do, and it's forgotten about the larger
• 1:40:37
  picture. It's like, it's, it's like a
• 1:40:41
  it's like a search engine, just more advanced is really what it
• 1:40:44
  is. It's collating all the
• 1:40:46
  information and putting it together for you.
• 1:40:48
  Yeah. And it has diagnostic features
• 1:40:51
  because it knows how to read its own code.
• 1:40:54
  You could, you can have it review itself and things like
• 1:40:57
  that and run, you know, there are ways to, to work it a little
• 1:41:02
  bit better, but you have to know what you're doing.
• 1:41:05
  You still have to know about coding.
• 1:41:07
  But it's also one of those things where you know, you get
• 1:41:11
  error exception at XO 3 nines fee on memory block AO3, blah.
• 1:41:18
  You know, when you're, when you're compiling and, and, and
• 1:41:22
  you throw it in there and it tells you exactly what that
• 1:41:24
  means. It's not hours of trying to
• 1:41:25
  figure out what that meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:41:29
  I mean, I've had dozens of errors and it fixes them most of
• 1:41:34
  the time right away. But then there'll be some other
• 1:41:38
  issue that it, you know, in order to fix that error code, it
• 1:41:42
  messed something else up, right? I forgot.
• 1:41:46
  I forgot. I wanted everything to be blue
• 1:41:48
  still or something like. And in my field, in my field,
• 1:41:54
  it's like embedded systems, like it's essential, especially when
• 1:41:58
  you're working with like merging that software with the hardware
• 1:42:02
  and it helping you diagnose issues like, you know, the MCU
• 1:42:08
  not being able to keep up with certain serial outputs and
• 1:42:12
  things like that. You know, I mean it helps a lot.
• 1:42:17
  Yeah. Well, we've gotten far away from
• 1:42:20
  Star Citizen in this last 10 minutes.
• 1:42:23
  Always happens. I wonder.
• 1:42:25
  Why I don't I don't have an answer for you, I don't know.
• 1:42:32
  Because Star Citizen is what it is, man.
• 1:42:34
  It's, it's limited. It's very limited.
• 1:42:37
  It's very limited. It's very how dare.
• 1:42:39
  You. Yeah.
• 1:42:40
  Well, does it need more sand? It needs more lux as in crew
• 1:42:44
  flux. We can almost do a whole
• 1:42:46
  episode, I think, on maybe different ways to play the game
• 1:42:50
  that maybe we're not playing now like that.
• 1:42:53
  And I'm not talking like full role play.
• 1:42:55
  I mean, that could be I mean, obviously it's an option, but
• 1:42:58
  like there's other I think worth more role design, you know,
• 1:43:02
  define stuff. And I just think there's
• 1:43:05
  different modes. You know, I like the whole, you
• 1:43:09
  know, what is it the artifact hunts?
• 1:43:12
  I think that what is it Murphy used to do and stuff like that.
• 1:43:17
  Murphy's minerals, man, that's some of the most fun things we
• 1:43:20
  did back in the day when Murphy came up with these scenarios for
• 1:43:23
  us to, to, to role play and, and play along with.
• 1:43:27
  And, you know, he had scripted events that he put together.
• 1:43:31
  He had people helping it. I mean, it was great fun.
• 1:43:35
  You know where let's imagine having players like that are
• 1:43:40
  like MPCS, but they're actually being they're under control of
• 1:43:45
  of a player. And it was great because you had
• 1:43:48
  to interact with somebody and you know, everybody knew in the
• 1:43:53
  back and at the at the back end of it all, it was it was
• 1:43:57
  somebody we knew that was playing a scenario out.
• 1:44:00
  But it was. Just great, yeah.
• 1:44:03
  It was basically it was like a it was role play, but it wasn't
• 1:44:07
  hard role play, if you get what what I'm saying.
• 1:44:09
  You know, we not everybody didn't talk in a funny voice or
• 1:44:14
  in. Character.
• 1:44:15
  Why not? Why everyone wants to do funny
• 1:44:18
  voices? But.
• 1:44:21
  My boys ain't funny. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:24
  I'm tired. When eggs, yeah.
• 1:44:25
  I was born with this voice it. Could be something as simple as
• 1:44:31
  like. I'd love to to.
• 1:44:32
  Start like if I was doing it maybe an event that would be
• 1:44:37
  where everyone just mutes discord.
• 1:44:39
  Now that of course I say that now that I finally got my
• 1:44:41
  proximity chat working, but just to try to see a whole, you know,
• 1:44:46
  a whole set of missions or to kind of build ourselves and just
• 1:44:50
  see if we can make it all work. Then I'd have to set what my my
• 1:44:54
  button is for comms, yeah. Do you type in the party chat?
• 1:44:58
  The ship chat? Dune.
• 1:45:00
  Has has proximity voice and hardly anybody ever uses it.
• 1:45:07
  That's true. Well.
• 1:45:08
  That's what I'm saying. But we we're, you know, if one
• 1:45:10
  of the benefits of the community is you could try a fun,
• 1:45:13
  different styled event and see see how everybody likes it.
• 1:45:17
  I've tried it once before and I had a total blast with it.
• 1:45:20
  It's one of my favorite star Susan.
• 1:45:22
  Well, the The thing is, you got to have people's buying like if
• 1:45:25
  you want, if you want people like, if you want things like
• 1:45:28
  proximity voice comms to work, you need to get rid of text
• 1:45:33
  chat. That has to go away then people
• 1:45:36
  are forced to use in game voice. That's a good point.
• 1:45:41
  Get rid of global. Get rid of all text chat.
• 1:45:45
  If you want to write a text chat, you have to walk to a
• 1:45:47
  terminal. Write a message to somebody.
• 1:45:50
  It gets. Sent to them more role play.
• 1:45:52
  I mean, well, I'm that's if you want that, that's, you know, if
• 1:45:56
  there's other options. But there's no way they're going
• 1:45:59
  to get rid of text chat entirely.
• 1:46:02
  I know. Everyone is not everyone is
• 1:46:05
  going to use voice. That's.
• 1:46:06
  Like I, I understand that, but again, if you want people to
• 1:46:11
  participate in a, in a system, you have to kind of force the
• 1:46:15
  hand. Right.
• 1:46:17
  You don't think there's other ways to talk with the?
• 1:46:19
  Ship with the ship and. Those are mutes.
• 1:46:21
  That's what we call mutes. No, because they're going to
• 1:46:24
  wake up their mom or something and and and then they'll get in
• 1:46:28
  trouble so they can't do it. There's a lot of this.
• 1:46:31
  Sounds pretty personal, Anubis. If there, if there's a lot of
• 1:46:34
  people, there's not a lot of people who are going to wake up
• 1:46:36
  their mom playing Star Citizen. I'm going to tell you that right
• 1:46:38
  now. There's plenty of old dudes.
• 1:46:42
  It's like they don't want to wake up the wife with sleeping
• 1:46:45
  it's. There's a lot of reasons she
• 1:46:47
  wakes up, that's her. Fault of reasons.
• 1:46:51
  But it would be. Cool, I like.
• 1:46:52
  No, you're just. Making.
• 1:46:53
  Excuses. You're just you're.
• 1:46:55
  Just helping make the excuse of why not to use proximity chat.
• 1:46:59
  So why should we even develop it?
• 1:47:00
  So if you're just going to make excuses of why you don't want to
• 1:47:03
  use it. I'm saying they need to go the
• 1:47:05
  other way. They need to add player tags and
• 1:47:08
  clan tags, you know, onto people so you can actually see who the
• 1:47:12
  Hell's in front of you 6 feet away from you.
• 1:47:17
  Like who is that guy? I don't know who that is.
• 1:47:19
  Oh, I can invite him to be a friend.
• 1:47:22
  Joe. Wiggle arms, Joe Wiggle arms
• 1:47:25
  here with a cowboy hat. And that's that's the.
• 1:47:28
  Road where you go down to the Zergs, if everybody can identify
• 1:47:33
  yeah, if you if you can identify everybody, everybody just you
• 1:47:37
  know they're they're going to choose their color and their and
• 1:47:40
  they're going. To be part of that.
• 1:47:41
  Zerg, hell yeah. But if you do that.
• 1:47:45
  I don't do that. That's boring.
• 1:47:48
  Oh. I want to see like, oh shit, you
• 1:47:52
  know, like Grim Hex is like Red Scar territory or something like
• 1:47:55
  that. Like, like they're always
• 1:47:57
  hanging out there because you, you see them there.
• 1:48:00
  Why do we have to have the garbage place as always?
• 1:48:04
  Can we have some place nice? Hycotech no please.
• 1:48:09
  You know. No obituary.
• 1:48:15
  There's there's nowhere really nice in Star Citizen.
• 1:48:18
  That's a different. Microtek Microtek's gorgeous.
• 1:48:21
  Well, Orson's. Holy shit.
• 1:48:23
  Bro. Yeah, it's not.
• 1:48:24
  Snow. Orson's beautiful.
• 1:48:26
  Speaking of snow, we're getting dynamic snow.
• 1:48:31
  Are. We.
• 1:48:32
  Love it. Yeah, and 3.3.
• 1:48:36
  You should be slipping all around.
• 1:48:37
  It'd be awesome. And I pick it up, make snowball
• 1:48:40
  and throw it at you. 4.3. So that's a no.
• 1:48:45
  OK, so not dynamic. Oh, it's dynamic in the weather
• 1:48:51
  pattern, not being like a that weather pattern like the rain.
• 1:48:56
  We have blizzards or or unbelievable more intense
• 1:48:59
  weather. That'd be cool.
• 1:49:00
  The Inuit, however, like this opportunity snow, that's
• 1:49:06
  dynamic, bro. The Inuit, the Eskimo, but that
• 1:49:10
  you're not supposed to say that anymore.
• 1:49:12
  It's Inuit and where. Does the word Eskimo come from?
• 1:49:18
  Probably a candy bar or something, I don't know.
• 1:49:21
  You mean the ice cream? Something like that.
• 1:49:26
  It's a white. It was a, it was a bunch of
• 1:49:27
  white people made it up for sure.
• 1:49:31
  Eskimo. So we get snow.
• 1:49:34
  Is this next one? Was this the the ladder?
• 1:49:36
  I saw this little video on the ladder and I was like well all.
• 1:49:40
  Oh yeah, the the dynamic ladder, the.
• 1:49:43
  Ladder V2. Can I tell you about ladder V2?
• 1:49:46
  I was playing Call of Duty the other day.
• 1:49:48
  I also have ladder V2 in Call of Duty.
• 1:49:52
  I don't want to, you know, I don't want to like.
• 1:49:55
  Those spaceships in Call of Duty.
• 1:49:57
  So we get ladder V2 now and starts.
• 1:50:00
  Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true.
• 1:50:01
  I like, I understand it, but it's it's like cool, neat.
• 1:50:07
  Yeah, like, like they should have that.
• 1:50:09
  They should have like you can run down to a battlefield and
• 1:50:11
  register for like the standings and people can see who the top
• 1:50:15
  dog in the battlefield ride is. You know, is right now, like, I
• 1:50:21
  don't know, there's yeah game. What are you talking about,
• 1:50:27
  Anubis? So.
• 1:50:31
  Ways to get people involved. Eskimo means snowshoe netter or
• 1:50:36
  one who who Nets snowshoes. But who Nets snowshoes?
• 1:50:42
  That's the that that was a a, a native word in a, in a certain
• 1:50:47
  in the Inuit. There you go.
• 1:50:50
  And it the the the the French first started using it, so
• 1:50:54
  supposedly. I saw some French guy was
• 1:50:57
  hanging out with an Inuit guy and the Inuit guy pointed out
• 1:51:01
  one of them and said Eskimo and that guy was knitting snowshoes.
• 1:51:05
  And the French guy didn't make the connection that it was just
• 1:51:09
  the dude knit in the snowshoes. He was like, oh, they're all
• 1:51:11
  Eskimo. He started using it.
• 1:51:16
  Same same thing happened with oatmeal.
• 1:51:21
  Think Duke's gonna drop, but thanks for stopping by, dude.
• 1:51:25
  Yeah. Thanks guys.
• 1:51:27
  Oh dude, we're leaving. Always good to have.
• 1:51:28
  You I got a. Little dude, Yeah, he's.
• 1:51:30
  Too good for us now. Duke, anything you want to say
• 1:51:33
  to CAG, Chris Roberts or the people on the Internet?
• 1:51:39
  No, all right, have. A good day tomorrow.
• 1:51:42
  Thanks, guys. Bye.
• 1:51:44
  Bye. Wow.
• 1:51:46
  OK, We've lost one. This is the longest show we've
• 1:51:49
  ever done. Really.
• 1:51:51
  Why? Almost wow, two hours.
• 1:51:54
  We normally, I normally cut it at an hour and a half.
• 1:51:57
  I just I've had enough. Just rolling.
• 1:52:01
  But it's. Curious after a while.
• 1:52:03
  Well, we've, we've, we've touched a lot of ground, you
• 1:52:08
  know, but no grass. But no grass.
• 1:52:13
  Well done, Anubis. That's good.
• 1:52:18
  Yeah, if you, if you guys feel like, if you feel like this is
• 1:52:22
  it. I mean, it wants Duke leaves.
• 1:52:26
  I mean, we can, I mean, if, if we're coming up on our longest
• 1:52:29
  episode, I mean, is this an appropriate time to trying to
• 1:52:34
  think if there's anything else, you know?
• 1:52:35
  Well, have we rarely do what's appropriate.
• 1:52:39
  This is. Clearly.
• 1:52:42
  We can touch on paleo anthropology again.
• 1:52:45
  Oh, I have a degree in that. But we will stop with this for
• 1:52:48
  now. We we will end the show today.
• 1:52:53
  We have fun stuff and let's let's start with the the next.
• 1:52:55
  We're doing fun stuff for the next episode, We're going to try
• 1:52:58
  something interesting. Yeah, probably not next week.
• 1:53:03
  The week after. The week after, so we're going
• 1:53:05
  to take a break next week unless something amazing happens.
• 1:53:11
  What's the week after next week? It's it's just another week.
• 1:53:17
  It's these things, as you get older, they just kind of blend
• 1:53:21
  together. Time just keeps flowing.
• 1:53:24
  Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I didn't realize just how
• 1:53:27
  accelerated it would start to get after a while.
• 1:53:29
  And you're like 05 years, that's no big deal.
• 1:53:32
  Whatever. Legitimately, yeah.
• 1:53:35
  Yeah. Months are like nothing now I
• 1:53:38
  have, I have a friend. I would I tried to call today, I
• 1:53:41
  tried to call yesterday. I haven't talked to him in
• 1:53:45
  months, maybe a year and he didn't pick up.
• 1:53:49
  And then he he called me back earlier and I saw he missed his
• 1:53:52
  call and I was like, I'll call him next week.
• 1:53:56
  No, you won't. I will, I will.
• 1:53:59
  I will. Anyway, Opencoms radio.
• 1:54:02
  If you've made it this far, thank you guys for stopping by.
• 1:54:05
  If you made it this far, you're probably asleep.
• 1:54:07
  Yeah, they made it to the existential point of the yeah.
• 1:54:10
  Yeah. Let's be real.
• 1:54:12
  Oh. We did the ASMR.
• 1:54:14
  Oh, can you hear that? Yeah.
• 1:54:21
  And that's all. Can you like that actually?
• 1:54:23
  We're pretty good. That's my.
• 1:54:26
  Time. All right, hold on.
• 1:54:29
  Wait. Let's do it.
• 1:54:31
  Oh, I don't. You hitting the bong?
• 1:54:35
  No, it's. Not yes, I don't want to that's.
• 1:54:37
  What hitting the bong sounds like.
• 1:54:38
  Yeah, that's totally right. Oh.
• 1:54:44
  Hello, hitting a dunk. If you like ASMR, join us to
• 1:54:49
  join the Tom's Radio After Dark, yeah?
• 1:54:56
  Thanks everybody for stopping by.
• 1:54:58
  It was. Is that why you're?
• 1:54:59
  On your show. I'm not wearing a bra.
• 1:55:02
  We're. Losing.
• 1:55:11
  That's all folks. I can I can edit them out in
• 1:55:14
  post I said. That's all folks.
• 1:55:18
  So Cosmic Hobo, you are our first guest today.
• 1:55:23
  Anything you want to say to CIG, Chris Roberts, or the people on
• 1:55:26
  the Internet? Give us some good war bonds for
• 1:55:34
  the next patch. All right, that was Cosmic Hobo.
• 1:55:39
  Looking for some good war bonds for the next batch.
• 1:55:46
  Lord Anubis, anything you want to say for war bonds?
• 1:55:49
  What the fuck are you talking about, hobo?
• 1:55:53
  The I I I wasn't really What the fuck?
• 1:55:58
  What did you think this is? For my chains.
• 1:56:02
  The fuck? Is this a hell divers thing?
• 1:56:05
  No. He he needs to spend more money.
• 1:56:08
  He hasn't spent enough money OnStar Citizen this month, so
• 1:56:14
  he's looking at a deal. It's the OPS and saving money.
• 1:56:19
  But you're still spending. I know.
• 1:56:22
  Saving money on digital spaceships.
• 1:56:25
  Yeah. Hey, but you know what?
• 1:56:27
  People buy like model ships that they put in their office and
• 1:56:31
  they just look at them. You get to fly yours around.
• 1:56:34
  Exactly. It's actually a really good
• 1:56:38
  point. Lord Anubis.
• 1:56:39
  Lord Anubis, anything you want to say to CIG, Chris Roberts or
• 1:56:42
  the people on the Internet? Just give us the ability to make
• 1:56:49
  things matter. That's all.
• 1:56:52
  Just needs to be alive just a little bit.
• 1:56:56
  You know, aliens, it's a space game.
• 1:56:59
  I mean, I don't know how much they plan, you know, I mean,
• 1:57:04
  they're, they're, they're things change every year, but just give
• 1:57:08
  us a way to like, actually make our way.
• 1:57:15
  Wicked. Anything you want to say is COG,
• 1:57:18
  Sandy Roberts, or the people on the Internet.
• 1:57:21
  Sandy, Chris, Jared, whoever's listening, I know you're not
• 1:57:27
  listening. You're ignoring us.
• 1:57:30
  Communications. They're into ASMR.
• 1:57:32
  Communications, I've been playing a competitor of yours
• 1:57:36
  and any little thing they communicate and they're
• 1:57:40
  straightforward. They spell it out exactly what
• 1:57:43
  happened, what went wrong, what they're going to do to fix it.
• 1:57:48
  It's it's a breath of fresh air. You guys have been doing this
• 1:57:52
  now for what, 1213 years? Stop talking at us.
• 1:57:55
  Start talking to us in any more concise and direct manner.
• 1:58:01
  Stop hiding behind a bunch of nonsense.
• 1:58:04
  If something's broken, just say it.
• 1:58:05
  It's broken. We're working on it.
• 1:58:09
  You know, not not all this double talk all the time or just
• 1:58:14
  ignoring issues. Thank you.
• 1:58:17
  Yeah, Sig, listen to the words of the immortal Nissan Altima.
• 1:58:22
  The. Fuck, are you talking Anubis?
• 1:58:27
  You have. It's a dude.
• 1:58:28
  Never mind. No one's watched Dune.
• 1:58:30
  Nissan algae. Shut up.
• 1:58:34
  Never mind Nissan Altima, Nissan Algae, Anubis.
• 1:58:38
  That sucked so hard. They're not all with.
• 1:58:42
  Rhyme. They're gonna push you off.
• 1:58:45
  You're gonna get you're gonna get pushed off the couch and.
• 1:58:48
  Put in the naughty. Oh my God bro.
• 1:58:51
  But. Unbelievable.
• 1:58:53
  Lever to shrink the couch. What?
• 1:58:57
  OK Tav, we did it again. I just.
• 1:58:59
  Spelled like. It just does with track, doesn't
• 1:59:02
  it? Look at that.
• 1:59:02
  Yeah, that's. Crazy.
• 1:59:05
  Welcome to the floor it. It welcome to gravity in.
• 1:59:08
  Space. Is it gore Tex or what?
• 1:59:12
  What is it made of? You'll never know.
• 1:59:16
  One One of these days I'm going to lose control of this show.
• 1:59:20
  One of these days. One of these days.
• 1:59:23
  We are careening. We are.
• 1:59:26
  Careening, we are off our axle. All right, Todd, we did it
• 1:59:32
  again. Number What's this, 23?
• 1:59:36
  Sure. 22 by my count. No, your count's wrong.
• 1:59:41
  Did you count? There's one, here's the thing,
• 1:59:45
  there's one episode missing from the YouTube podcast list and I
• 1:59:50
  don't know which one it is. And every week I'm like, oh, I
• 1:59:52
  should figure out what it is and just put it on the list.
• 1:59:56
  But it. Was banned and you know why we
• 1:59:58
  can't speak about it? Spicier ones.
• 2:00:07
  The organization said so. Well, to have it's about time
• 2:00:11
  play us out. We see the meaning like get
• 2:00:25
  somebody on percussion, we can make this the whole thing, you
• 2:00:27
  know? Anyway, thanks.