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10. Thomas Dunn – Through the Black · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Hello, folks, this is Princess, you are listening to the
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millennial Mustard Seed, pod casts.
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Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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friends. You guys welcome back to the
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show. I have excellent episode in
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store for you tonight, I have Tom done here with me.
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Tom is a movie producer, you speaks of conferences all over
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the country. He's got a lot of great things
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to say. We start off talking a little
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bit about his testimony, how he came to the place, where he's at
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in life, what led him down. This unique path.
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Ultimately we hit climactic All Points like Supernatural Warfare
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and Satanic ritual abuse. Something a lot of people in our
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country have been affected by yet.
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It goes under the radar. This stuff is happening right
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under our nose and most of the time, we don't even acknowledge
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its existence. This episode is a roller coaster
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ride. I'm excited for you guys to take
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this journey with me and Tom done.
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This is going to be one to remember.
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All right tonight, we got Tom on the show.
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Tom, thanks for being here, Rod. Thank you for having me.
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And I'm glad you got through a lot of people reach out and they
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slip through the cracks. I have so many ways of people
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that reach, you know, they reach out to me through email.
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Facebook and messages and all that.
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A lot of people get mad at me because I miss their message and
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they're like, oh, that guy's you know, whatever.
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I'm glad to be here, man. So Tom let me start off by
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asking him. How did you end up going down
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this unique path. Where did it all start for you?
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For me, it started when I was real young through dreams
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through being raised by my grandparents who my grandfather
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was a he was an ordained minister and Taking the church,
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my parents were divorced. So I kind of got bumped off to
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my grandparents because my dad went to Texas and my mom went to
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work. I was raised by them, and I just
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kind of was riding shotgun and learned about the Lord and had a
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fascination with Supernatural things.
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And, you know, I have in my studio here, I have a picture up
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behind me, a famous picture of a guardian angel, that's watching
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over to Little Children walking across a bridge.
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And when I was a little kid that picture kind of frightened me in
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fascinated me at the same And my grandparents had it hanging up
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upstairs outside of their bedroom.
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And when I would walk by it, I would just kind of like look at
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it real quick and step by it. You know, because I was like,
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what's going on with this picture?
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This is freaking me out. There's these two little
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children, but there's this white being behind them that like this
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thing with wings and I couldn't figure it out and my
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grandparents notice, you know, my my reaction to the picture
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one day. They're like you don't like this
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picture. What's?
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What's wrong, then? They explained it to me that,
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you know, this is a this is an illustration of of a guardian
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angel watching over the kids as they're, you know, just going
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across this dangerous looking Bridge.
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So I was introduced to the supernatural at a very young
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age. I had a grandfather, my
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grandmother loved the Lord, she taught me the 23rd.
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Psalm for a school lesson back when they actually still had
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Bible classes in school. I would sit in church mostly
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board, but flip Through the Bible and look.
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The pictures and my grandma had pictures of really cool
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paintings like in her Bible so that you know that's what I
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would do. My parents were divorced in a
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way that I mean it was a blessing and a curse at the same
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time because I mean, I was hurt by that, but at the same time,
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it put me in a position to where I could learn about the Lord.
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And I don't know if I would have had that upbringing had my
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parents stayed together? I don't know, I don't know what
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would happen. I remember having Supernatural
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dreams. I remember.
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God showing me Things like I'm not a big dream guy like every
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dream mean something, but I remember specific ones like
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being at my grandparents house and kind of being led out of the
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house down by the barn. And there was a man in a suit
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they're really sharp looking business.
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Business type looking dude and he's like, hey, I want you to
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come with me and I knew who he was.
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I knew it was the devil and I was like, I'm not going with
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you. I'm not going to go with you and
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I didn't even really understand what that meant at the time and
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the impact on it. I guess just by God's grace you
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know being raised by my grandparents praying with him on
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a regular basis and you know that was back in the day when
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they would go do visitation and people would come over and they
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would have prayer meetings. That would last for hours, I
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would dislike go outside and play and come back and I'm like
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holy moly, what's wrong with these guys?
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They're still praying and they're just crying out to God
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and really getting a hold of the throne of grace.
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So that was you know that was my experience.
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That's what I witnessed in my teenage years It's okay, this
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plays a big part in it even though I had that Foundation, I
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still had a choice to make I was at a Crossroads.
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I was missing my dad and I came from a broken family and I was
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hurt and I could have chose, you know, to go down a road where
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you know a lot of people do they use painkillers.
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So you know, sex drugs Rock and Roll.
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But by the grace of God, the Lord puts somebody in my life in
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school. And I started hanging out with
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this guy and he had a church in a youth group.
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So I started going to you Group with him and I was like, oh man
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church is not so boring. This is kind of cool.
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I didn't know, I didn't know. People could be so cool.
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I started listening to Christian music and Christian music.
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Really played just a very significant part in my life
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because I'm again, I'm sitting here in my studio and I'm
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looking at a wall where I have all these records hanging up and
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all of the music. I used to listen to Christian
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rock and Christian met on all the music was about spiritual
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warfare. It got me reading the Bible and
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it got me, you know, studying the Bible.
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And A way that I never would, you know, and it was kind of
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systemic because I was going through and picking out all the
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verses about spiritual warfare. I was like, oh man, this is,
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this is kind of cool. So so when I was in high school
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we started a Ministry called the violent piece Ministries.
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We were kind of like a game. You know, we walked around with
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leather jackets and jean jackets and we love the Lord and you
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know we weren't playing. We were innocent in our
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thoughts. Very naive very zealous but we
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didn't do everything, right? Because we Kids and we didn't
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know. So, like, when's it start
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talking about Satanism or something like that?
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We would, you know, we'd be like, hey, this is our school,
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you know, you're not, you're not welcome here, take a hike.
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So it was that sort of thing. All of those things play a part
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and God knew what he was doing and it's amazing.
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All the elements, you know that hurt us and help us in our life,
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my parents divorce and me, missing my dad devastated me and
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it caused things in me like separation anxiety.
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That when I got married at a young age, I was about 19 years
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old. I didn't even know I had
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separation anxiety, and I was fearful of being left because my
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parents split up, but there are things that affect us.
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The traumatize us, every one of us has those types of things
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growing up. And, you know, think good things
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to right out of high school, it was a little over a year I got
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married because I believed it was better to marry than to burn
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with passion. And I was burning with passion.
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Yeah, many of us can relate to that.
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That thing that I started in high school, we continued it.
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When we got out of high school and we started a church,
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Downtown Mansfield, and mind you.
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I was an ordained, but I started the church and I ask other
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people to come in and preach. It was out of an apartment.
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Building an upper floor, apartment building is 164 and a
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half West, First Street Mansfield Ohio and it was a
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one-bedroom apartment, but on Sundays we turn our living room
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into a sanctuary and people would come up.
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People came from really sometimes all over Ohio.
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Come to our little church speakers.
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Would come in and share a. We would preach the gospel
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again. Having no accountability and I
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sought out. Accountability, there was fruit,
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but there was, there was a situation kind of like Paul
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described in Corinthians because I was kind of like a Lone Ranger
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Christian. Where I begin to believe.
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I wasn't part of the body of Christ because so many people
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told me you're not part of the body of Christ, you don't
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belong. So I began to believe that.
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So I got an interest in I'm right about that time.
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I'm talking about things with you Rod that I rarely talk
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about. Yeah, I love hearing the
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testimonies. So what happened next right
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around that time, I got an interest in film, it really kind
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of turned out to be a distraction, rather than a
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blessing. And it almost became kind of
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like an idol in my life and it really kind of led me down like
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a liberal Road. You know, where I started
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researching film, I started just having a fascination with film
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and filmmaking. Makers and art, and all these
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things. And I really got kind of liberal
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just kind of justifying things for a while.
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Long story short, I was married, 10 years.
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I went through a divorce. That's a, that's a messy story.
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I remarried. And I said, you know what,
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whatever I do. I'm just going to go to church
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and that's all I'm going to do. I'm not going to get involved in
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Ministry anymore because I blame God, and I kind of said my
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heart, you know what, I'm not gonna do this anymore because I
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tried to do some stuff for God and God didn't have my back.
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So, I'm just going to go to church and not do anything else.
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Well, that didn't last long because I then found this guy by
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the name of Russ dizdar and I began listening to his podcast
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and I was like, oh my gosh, this guy is talking about what I used
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to talk about and what I used to hear people like Bob Larson
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talked about like 10 years ago. I haven't heard anybody talk
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about this. I found out this guy is in Ohio.
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Okay, I got to reach out to him so I reached out to him and I
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told him, hey, I want to make a movie about the things you
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talked about. About, they freak people out.
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I had no interest rod and and helping anybody.
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Well, I just wanted to make a film that would freak people out
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because Hollywood's making millions of dollars about the
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things that Russ dizdar talks about.
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I'm like, this is better than Hollywood because this is the
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real thing. All the stuff in Hollywood is
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fake. I said, this is going to freak
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people out and I was scared to make the film but I didn't care
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my interest in just having the best film on this subject.
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You know, was more, I reached out to Russ, he Okay, you want
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to make a film? He's like here, take this take
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this, you know, research this and then we'll talk about it.
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Long story short, Russ dizdar took me under his wing.
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He basically mentored me discipled.
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Me, took me all around the world.
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I went to Germany, I went to Scotland.
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I went to Poland, I went to New York.
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I went I went so many places with Russ and he said, I don't
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know what it was but by you know, the grace of God.
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So instead of making the film, I wanted to make, I ended up
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becoming like a counselor and a Deliverance Minister I had no
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plans. In doing any of this, by the
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way, I just want to make a movie and that's what I did.
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And I lived for it and I prayed, Lord, I want to do this, I want
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to do this, and if you open the door, I'll do.
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I'll give dedicate my life to this.
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And I prayed and prayed and prayed for years, I honestly
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prayed for years believing that any second, the door would open
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and I will be able to do this full-time.
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Finally, it did almost three years ago.
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I lost track. Now, I'm doing this full time.
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I will always want to make a movie.
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Now I've made three movies and we do.
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Of course, the through the black YouTube channel and we've got
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hundreds of episodes and we talked about spiritual warfare
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and stuff. So that is that's the story of
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how I got to where I am. And it's all, you know, in
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hindsight, I can see the hand of God just using the things of my
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life. Good and bad to put me where I'm
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at. And I was born to do what I'm
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doing right now. There's a lot of flavor to
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everything. You were just saying there, the
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Lord Works all things together for the good of those who are
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called according to his purpose. I know that the world, you know,
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they want to harness us to the plow and make us produce and
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have us not ask any questions, right?
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Yeah. I agree.
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Just be a good boy and go and be a consumer and it's awesome.
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How when we just keep crying out to God and walking through the
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Journey of this life that when we trust him he's going to bring
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us into a place where we're able to do exactly what he designed
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us to do it man. That's an amazing testimony.
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And I know Drew graffia was on last and he had messaged me
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after I release the episode him and his wife, listen to it.
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And he's like, dude, this is the most personal interview I've
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ever done in my life. I love being able to be a part
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of that because you guys have been a blessing to me and I know
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the audience, you know, working in your gift and just helping to
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expose things that go under the radar.
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Now, tell me a little bit about your show.
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What you got going on and anything exciting.
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That's on the horizon. I guess we're coming up on a
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Four year anniversary, maybe in February for the through the
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black YouTube channel. Okay.
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In 2016, we release the film detestable which is a film that
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exposes Satanic ritual abuse. Okay?
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I made that movie and and that's a story in itself and I can tell
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you about that. I mean, God opened the door for
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that and I had no money to make a movie but I just I really felt
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inspired by the Lord to make this movie and all the
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everything happened. And you know, the Lord opened
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the doors and Now, the movies actually on Amazon actually have
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two movies on Amazon Prime. So we're able to use the enemy's
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platform when we made the movie. We wanted to promote the movie,
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you know, we went on all the podcast and all the shows that
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we could and, you know, we just got all everybody who's a friend
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of ours. Say, hey, can we have on?
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Can we promote this queen promote this?
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And then we kind of got to the end of that list.
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It's like, okay, what do we do now?
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Well, maybe now we do our own show Jared my co-host and I we
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have a lot of conversations about deliverance and Virtual
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Warfare and that sort of thing, we thought, well, these
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conversations that we're having would be very beneficial to
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other people out there. So like, why don't we just do
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what we do, but share it with the world.
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So that's kind of how the through the black Channel
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started out. It's been a crazy ride.
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I mean, I'll just say, I'll put it like this, you know, people
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like our show just because we're really laid-back and we don't
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take ourselves too seriously and we have fun.
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But we also talk about a very serious subject but we're very
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Transparent. We try to be very human and we
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don't try to come across as holier than now.
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I mean, I believe in Holiness and righteousness and living for
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God and all that. But I'm also very transparent.
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I'm honest. And I bear my scars because I
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know the listeners are dealing with the same type of struggles
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that I am. Its spiritual warfare and it's
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the key. I think to the Christian Life,
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it's what's missing in churches. This should be the training that
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new converts get. You know, within the first
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couple months of getting saved but it's not there and they
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don't understand that. There's something else going on.
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It's supernatural that you have an enemy that wants to destroy
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your life and he wants to do anything.
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He can to trip you up to try and destroy your ministry to try and
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mess up your walk and tempt you and all that stuff.
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And when you know your enemy, you you have a better chance of
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overcoming and having Victory. I tell people this, so I
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understood the concept of spiritual warfare when A
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teenager, but I didn't have any training.
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I didn't have any Mentor, I didn't have these strategy,
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anything like that. So when I tote, what I took,
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those courses that I told you about, by the way, I highly
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recommend the courses by Russ dizdar.
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I took this course called confronting the powers, they're
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free. All this stuff is free on his
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website. It's called Chowder, the
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darkness dotnet. So I took that course, and I
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took it because I wanted to do research and learn okay.
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What I need to learn about, you know, this Object.
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So I can make a movie on it. And what the weird thing to
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happen was I got I began to get help.
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I was like, whoa. Okay, you mean these things?
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I've been struggling with, I can actually overcome these fears
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that I've had since I was in second grade and my mom was
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doing tarot cards in the kitchen.
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And there was something that came into my room.
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And I had a fear all the way into my 30s.
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When I took that course that fear went away, This is what I
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tell people that happen to me. I used to be afraid to get up in
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the middle of the night, okay? In my own house, as a grown,
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man, I learned my authority. I learned about the armor of God
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and I learned, you know, just you know all this all the
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spiritual warfare strategy and how to overcome and how to beat
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it and all that stuff. So what I used to be afraid of.
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Now my nightmares are afraid of me but not so much me, but the
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spirit of God and me and I go after the darkness.
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Now, instead of hiding from, I can relate to a little bit of
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that there, I grew up in an old farmhouse.
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It was kind of a creepy house. Who could always feel Think
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they're so I can definitely relate to, you know, that
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feeling of just fear of, I feel like a lot of the times people
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come to the Lord in some devastating situation or they
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grew up in the church but they don't really get the proper
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training of where to go, you know, they just this whole book
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is thrown out and it's sitting in their lap and, you know, they
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may turn and end up on a genealogy, just flipping pages
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and be like, well, this is kind of boring.
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Oh, the new James Bond movies out, you know, in the church
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kind of like wags, its head and wonders, why can't we Get more
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men in the church. WIll some of these Supernatural
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things that the Bible talks about.
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It's so important that were able to discuss and go through that
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stuff because the battles. Real, the very first episode, I
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did here on the millennial Mustard Seed was with my pastor,
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Randy, and we talked about supernatural Warfare.
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The three of us were. Chopping it up and talking about
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our experiences. And why it's so important to
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realize the presence of this enemy that Wars against our
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souls? There was a Sure.
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And the bathroom and it was this old black and white picture of a
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lady who had a bar soap, it was like an advertisement picture.
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She was advertising this bar. So next to like an old clawfoot
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bathtub and for some reason, my parents had this hanging up and
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in the bathroom of the old farm house that I grew up in, and it
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creeped me out because this picture, I just felt like the
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hair stand up, on the back of my neck.
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And at this time, I didn't grow up in the church.
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I didn't really know what was going on, but I knew there was
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something weird in. The house and this picture in
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particular just really scared me.
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There was a point in time where I honestly believe this thing
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moved its head and just had like a demonic look in its eyes.
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That was traumatizing to me it sounds like foolish in a sense
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to the world. They're like man you were just
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scared kid here parent or do you watch a scary movie or
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something? But to me it rattled, my cage at
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a very young age and then I battled with the fear of just
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something. I couldn't really identify that
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I knew hated me. If that makes sense.
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Yeah, hear you talk about, okay? And just I can relate, you know,
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I've had some dreams and things and I know the Lord has really
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just given me peace over the years as I continue in the word.
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But, you know, when we get sidetracked and we get caught up
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in the passions of this life, the attacks come flooding in and
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it's a quick reminder. And I need to take up the armor
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that the helmet of salvation, the breastplate of
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righteousness, the the sword of the spirit, you know, our
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Shield, all these different things, God gives us, right?
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Right. And then what are you working on
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this? Going to help this younger
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generation and some of the older listeners that I have here on
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the podcast. I've made three films.
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The first ones called detestable, the second one is
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called, this is a war and the third one is called fire and
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brimstone, okay. And the second one is just kind
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of a profile of some different people that give their testimony
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about spiritual warfare and it kind of all circles around and
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kind of comes together. It's about 7 people.
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And I Just kind of mash it all together.
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The film I made after that was about the life of David Arthur,
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David Arthur. Lived, you know, over 20 years
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of his life as a woman, he was a transgender guy and he was on
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his deathbed dying of symptoms from AIDS, and he was ready to
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die. He finally got saved.
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He's like okay, Lord, go ahead and take me and instead God
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taking him, he got healed and he got up out.
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He was just he was a dead man and he got up out of the bed and
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It's his story, it's called fire and brimstone and it's a
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powerful story, just about how he got recruited.
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How he was abused as a child, and the doors were open in his
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life, how he went down the road that he did and how he got
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saved. So and then the warning for the
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children, the sexualization of, you know, that this culture
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wants to put in our children and just basically training kids
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that there is no gender and that there is no, there's no such
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things as The thing is boy and a girl, you know, and you could be
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whatever you want or whatever you think you are, just the
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aggressive attack on the children.
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So and it kind of exposes that that's only available on DVD by
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the way. Because we can't really put it
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up anywhere because it'll get censored or taking down
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everything that we do. I really believe is important.
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You know, the the black channel has hundreds of archives.
21:41
Now you can kind of just go through their pick a subject
21:45
almost and learn about something.
21:47
Spiritual warfare. We've covered it from
21:50
Deliverance to the new age, to haunted houses, to training, and
21:54
spiritual warfare, just, all of those.
21:56
All of those things, you know, you mentioned about.
21:58
What am I, what am I doing right now?
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Actually, on our YouTube channel?
22:02
There's a video that's dropping today.
22:04
That is a little 20-minute production.
22:07
And what I did is I kind of compiled all the testimonies
22:11
that I could find of Satanic ritual abuse and I put them
22:16
together in a way, that's really.
22:17
Never been done before just kind of like a collage just
22:21
hard-hitting. Testimony after hard-hitting
22:24
testimony of these people on their just telling what?
22:29
They know what they saw what they experience of satanic Cults
22:32
operating. You know.
22:34
And they're just talking from a place of experience.
22:38
So I'm excited about that because we're trying to make
22:42
videos that are going to Red Pill people on this issue.
22:45
I don't feel like we're paranoid about this.
22:47
This issue we're just very aware of this issue.
22:51
Okay, I always talk about Russ. Okay, he's a good friend of
22:54
mine. He's a good teacher, he's really
22:56
good at what he does. There's a lot of other books out
22:57
there besides him. So I just want to mention.
22:59
There's a lot of other great resources, but I feel like he's
23:02
the best of the best because he's learned the hard way.
23:04
He's probably number one on this planet, the person that's dealt
23:08
with this stuff and the person that's going after it and in the
23:11
knowledge that he has about it and him helping the survivors
23:15
and the victims. I've never seen anything like
23:17
it. When you take one of his courses
23:19
and then you watch the news, you don't see it the same way that
23:22
you used to. You see, a shooter on the news.
23:24
Okay. If you remember this took place,
23:27
I don't know how many years ago, probably close to 10 years ago
23:29
now. Where there was a guy that was
23:32
going in, he shot up a Navy shipyard that was over on the
23:35
east coast somewhere. And he wrote on his, on the
23:38
stock of his rifle. This is my e.l.f weapon e.l.f
23:43
means extremely low-frequency. There's more to that story,
23:46
there's more to this this shoe. Other stories.
23:48
Okay, the guy in Colorado. You know, you look at these
23:50
pictures and you can see in their eyes.
23:52
Something is something else is going on.
23:54
We're not saying every single person is programmed, look at
23:57
Sirhan Sirhan, the guy that killed Robert Kennedy.
24:00
He came out and said, yeah, he's been mind-controlled.
24:04
So it's connected to Ritual abuse.
24:06
It's connected to government mind control, that sort of
24:09
thing, all that stuff is connected, and it's what we
24:12
expose. We are overwhelmed with people
24:15
reaching out to us, trying to get help.
24:17
Trying to get set free Deliverance just anything that
24:21
they can get. We have so many things.
24:24
So many irons in the fire. I want to mention our news
24:28
website. It's called real dark news and
24:30
basically, it's just a News website, and I have a few
24:34
writers that write on there and they're constantly releasing
24:37
stories about just this crazy, dark news that happens every
24:42
day. That's gets buried in
24:44
newspapers. It's happening all over the
24:46
country. And it's kind of a downer but,
24:49
you know, we want to expose the darkness, we know that we have
24:52
the light of the world, Jesus Christ, okay?
24:55
He's the resurrection and the life, anybody who believes in
24:57
him shall live, we're trying to shine a light in the darkness.
25:00
So we're constantly exposing just any kind of story, whether
25:04
it's a serial killer, it's just a lot of craziness.
25:07
One of the trends we've been seeing in the last couple months
25:11
is parents killing their children, mothers killing their
25:14
children. You know, and it just kind of
25:16
comes in waves. Real dark news.com is the
25:19
website. You can kind of go on there and
25:21
just look. And there's over a thousand
25:24
stories on their, of archives of this type of stuff, that type of
25:27
news, but a Christian worldview, you know, absolutely.
25:31
Jesus Christ, is the answer, he's the Savior.
25:33
He's the hero of humanity, you know, there's a lot of people
25:36
out there presenting the darkness.
25:38
We're presenting it from a Biblical standpoint.
25:42
Yeah, my grandfather. He passed away a few years ago
25:45
but he used to say, you know, you got to study Be your enemy
25:48
to know how he like meanders through and like the tricks.
25:51
He's going to pull, you know, he would always kind of remind me
25:54
because I've never been a fan of like, horror movies or anything
25:58
like that. I even remember when I was like,
26:00
12, the neighbors had a. But, you know, a bunch of kids
26:03
are hanging out there on the porch and the kid comes to the
26:06
door who lived there with the Ouija board.
26:07
He's like, come on, we're all going to play and something
26:09
inside of me, just like struck like I'm like, absolutely not
26:13
and I hightailed it home. Like I knew there was something
26:17
wrong. With that even before I knew,
26:19
you know, a Biblical perspective if you will but my grandfather's
26:22
always say, you know, you got to be aware of the tactics of the
26:24
enemy. Let me ask you this real quick.
26:26
Do you think just through like movies or like Disney or the
26:30
news today that there's some strongholds that are able to
26:33
attach onto people that are unaware of this systematic
26:38
desensitization that the enemy is using through all these
26:41
social Outlets? What are your thoughts?
26:44
Oh yeah, yeah, I absolutely believe it did.
26:47
It really depends. Okay.
26:49
I believe a Christian has more protection than anybody else.
26:52
Okay. So agree.
26:54
I can go and I can watch a TV show or a movie or something
26:58
that a horror movie or something like that fascination with the
27:01
supernatural. So I used to love that stuff,
27:04
but the closer I get to the Lord, when I watch something, it
27:07
Wars against my spirit, you know what I'm saying?
27:10
And once in a great while I will watch something for
27:14
presuppositional analysis, okay? So I'm doing Research, but I'm
27:18
very careful about what I do. But even as a Christian, I can
27:21
feel the conflict and it can be in books, it can be on a
27:24
website, you can be a media, it can it can be anywhere.
27:28
And the further away from you are from the Lord, the less
27:31
you're going to notice that a lot of times, you know, we'll go
27:34
we can go into places, you know, that are dark, dark parts of the
27:37
city spiritually dark, and people will know, they'll
27:40
recognize you before you recognize them, because they're
27:44
cloaked, we're not we're out in the open, right?
27:46
The spirit of God. It in me, irritates the Demonic
27:49
in them that they may not be possessed, but they might have
27:53
some kind of stronghold or oppression on them because I
27:57
don't think every single person is possessed.
27:59
But yeah, I think those things can have an effect.
28:02
And the more, the more you get into God's word, the more you're
28:04
praying, the more you're praising, God, and worshiping
28:07
him to less. You're going to want to do with
28:08
that stuff. Okay, the enemies always
28:10
knocking, right? And he's always trying to, to
28:13
open the door. And every I think everybody has
28:18
Something they like, they probably shouldn't, you know
28:20
what I mean? And yeah, I have, you know, I
28:23
have there's a lot of music. I liked, I probably shouldn't
28:26
like it, but I'm not going to allow it to be king of my heart.
28:28
A lot of these bands are involved in the occult and stuff
28:32
like that. And it used to be kind of, you
28:34
know, just heavy metal music. But then you know, nowadays,
28:37
it's all music. It's all pop music hip-hop.
28:40
They're involved in the occult and involved in all kinds of
28:42
stuff. It was more blatant, you know,
28:44
in metal music, back in the 70s and 80s.
28:46
Now it's blatant everywhere and This kind of like all it's, you
28:49
know, it's a free-for-all. So those things definitely have
28:53
an effect, the closer you are to the Lord, the sharper you are
28:56
and discernment the quicker. You're going to notice it music.
28:59
Especially I could get I know three people right now that were
29:03
unwilling to put their music life under the lordship of
29:08
Christ and they basically worshipped music and they
29:12
couldn't get away from it, rock and roll, right?
29:14
Three people, I know that turned their back on God to of the
29:18
Guys, especially are just so far gone now and it's all because
29:23
they love that music so much. They couldn't let go of it.
29:27
You know. It just had a grip on their
29:29
heart and the message in the music is Antichrist.
29:32
Yeah. We see a lot of that.
29:34
I mean, I feel like the days were living in, especially in to
29:38
go beyond the borders of just the music realm.
29:41
It's almost like the line is being drawn in the sand.
29:44
I see the pillars being set for To show up just like it said to.
29:50
And I'm not one of those guys who's like, oh, I think we're
29:52
right here right now. But even people that are
29:55
unbelievers in my life and my work place and my personal life,
29:58
you know, places I go to were saying something's wrong here,
30:02
this ain't right, or there's tension in the air, it's not
30:04
like it will, I keep hearing. Well, it's not like, it was five
30:07
years ago, even 10 years ago, 20 years ago to agitation, is just
30:11
there. And a lot of people that are
30:14
serving, the god of their belly, where the god of they're all
30:17
Idol. You are are blindsided by it,
30:19
but you have a lot of people that are in this like, Middle
30:22
Ground, you know that are just doing their rituals going
30:25
through life. They're going to work coming
30:27
home, eating dinner, you know, they may have a little bit of
30:29
entertainment with their movie thing or their Hobby and then
30:32
they just reset do it all over again and they get caught in
30:35
that Trend. Those people are the ones that
30:37
I've gotten a huge influx of, hey, man.
30:40
I know I used to call you really Fringe and a little bit weird.
30:43
A few years ago, but I think you're on to something.
30:45
No. Because the content here on the
30:47
podcast, we cover a Supernatural stuff Angels, just the
30:49
conception real quick, Tom. You think most people when they
30:53
think of an Angel, they think of the fat little baby with wings
30:56
feeding people grapes, you know? I heard somebody say that this
30:59
morning and yeah, you know, I don't know what they think, but
31:02
I don't think they have a Biblical concept of.
31:05
No, I mean, look at cherubs or seraphim.
31:08
I mean, we're talking about Fierce angels, with multiple
31:11
heads burnished feet, like, hopes of a bowl, you know,
31:14
multiple wings like eyes within and about.
31:16
If you read about the room, the Our own Guardian Revelation.
31:19
I mean this is cool stuff forward shaken.
31:21
When they met them they were scared to death.
31:24
Oh, I can't I can't exactly remember the name of it but I
31:26
heard an interview with this guy and I have it like on my by list
31:29
is called the mighty angels of the Bible or the mighty angels
31:33
of Revelation. This guy wrote a whole book on
31:35
it, it was so fascinating, just he really went into detail.
31:39
Using biblical resources, just talking about angels.
31:43
You know the Apostle Paul talks about the Thrones dominions, you
31:46
know, principalities powers. I think a couple hundred times
31:49
it mentions the word Angel, which and the Hebrew is malach,
31:53
and in the Greek is Angelo's, and it literally means messenger
31:56
not of This World In His Scriptures, it talks about their
31:59
status being to serve those, who will inherit eternity.
32:03
You know, we're not talking about some soft small winged
32:06
fat, little baby here. And I think that as people
32:09
understand in the here, podcast like this, I hear about what
32:11
you're doing guys like l.a. Marzulli.
32:13
Other guys that are just being bold and just saying this is
32:16
what the text says. It means what it says and says
32:19
what it means. Because the veils thinning, you
32:21
have an influx of people in today's day and age that are
32:24
having experiences. Now, there's a lot of
32:27
conversations I've had all fair where people are telling me
32:31
about supernatural things that they've been experiencing and
32:33
we're talking about people who you know live the whole life
32:36
like never dealing with anything but within the last five years
32:39
there like this really Disturbed me and I don't fight I don't
32:42
feel like there's anybody else I have to talk about it with I've
32:44
even had the response of well I can't tell it to my pastor in
32:47
the church. Search, you know, they're rigid.
32:49
Mander, you know, same message. It's like clockwork.
32:52
You can go with this time of the year.
32:53
You own this know, what you're going to hear.
32:54
They're just seeing how the Lord worked mice were together.
32:57
We all have a story Tom. Each one of us has a unique
33:01
testimony in a story and as people are flooding in and
33:05
going, hey, you know, I had this weird experience or demonic
33:07
experience or dream or I seen something in the sky move a 90
33:11
degree at a speed, it shouldn't Knowing that the Bible is going
33:15
to be there. At the end of the day we can go
33:17
and ask questions about the Bible.
33:18
We can study it and show ourselves well approved and
33:21
enter in and it's not going to like vanish and disappear.
33:23
I feel like some of the big churches out here, preach
33:27
prosperity and there's a huge body of people who've had weird
33:32
experiences and they don't know where to go.
33:34
They don't know what to do with it.
33:35
But here is the answer, the living breathing word of God.
33:38
With some of the things that you were saying.
33:41
It just makes me think of something that we Always say the
33:45
church should be on The Cutting Edge and we're not were like 30
33:49
years behind churches are afraid of these issues when people come
33:52
to pastors with the things, like what you were saying this.
33:56
This really, it makes me angry to say this and this is why I do
34:01
what I do and we try, we offer any training that we can, but
34:05
pastors will tell people sometimes two things.
34:09
This is what we hear all the time, one you need a
34:12
psychiatrist or psychologist. Just or two, you need to go see
34:16
a Catholic priest and I want to scream, I want to scream, I'm
34:21
like you a Christian Evangelical, Pastor are sending
34:25
somebody to the Catholic church or to a psychiatrist because you
34:31
don't have the answers, we have God's word.
34:34
We have this amazing truth from another dimension.
34:38
There's no other book like it. Everything in there that we need
34:41
to know is covered in God's word.
34:44
It just it frustrates me because I don't I'm not on my high
34:47
horse. I don't think I'm better than
34:49
these pastors, but I am frustrated with them because
34:52
Christian pastors should not be afraid of this, and they should
34:56
not be sending people to see a psychologist or to a Catholic
35:00
priest. We should be cutting edge.
35:02
We should be ready to go. We have the answers for ghost,
35:05
we have the answers for new age, for aliens, for all these
35:07
things. We should know, the answers,
35:09
exactly. How counter, or how to respond
35:12
and how to minister, and do a Jetix with these issues.
35:16
So yeah I mean because people are out there and they want
35:20
answers and if the church doesn't give them an answer then
35:24
they are going to go somewhere else.
35:25
They are going to go to the new age, they are going to go you
35:28
know to the occult or whatever. And that's unnecessary, we have
35:32
the answers. God's word has the answers.
35:34
Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better
35:36
myself. My generation.
35:37
They're flocking to any and everything that even looks like
35:43
it. It can to give them an answer.
35:45
And like you said, we have the answers for aliens for ghosts,
35:48
you name it. The Bible talks about it.
35:51
A lot of the work that I've heard Drew graffia.
35:53
Do recently, it phenomenal, the breakdown, he's going through
35:56
the text verbatim, letting it say what it means.
35:59
Just painting the picture and connecting it.
36:01
The Bible says, if it's self study to show ourselves.
36:04
Well approved with fear and trembling, we work out our
36:07
Salvation, God's word covers everything it really really
36:11
does. My message is simple draw Close
36:14
to the Lord as you possibly can. Seek him out.
36:17
The answers are in God's word. God has compassion.
36:20
He's the father compassion and the God of All Comfort.
36:23
He loves you. We're in crazy times in this
36:26
country and around the world, and we need Believers to rise
36:30
up. We need Believers to reach the
36:33
world. The world is practically begging
36:35
us to tell them about Jesus. They're so lost their so hurt
36:38
their so mixed up on so many levels.
36:42
And if the church Church doesn't get on the field, get off the
36:46
sidelines to get on the field. We're going to be in a worse
36:48
mess. Now is a great time to
36:50
evangelize now, is a great time to do spiritual warfare.
36:53
Now, is a great time to get your own act together, and I say this
36:58
boldly because I needed to get my act together and I know there
37:02
are people out there listening even now, one of the things I
37:05
deal with all the time is I meet people at conferences, they come
37:08
up to me and I can see the look in their eyes and they're like,
37:10
man, thank you for what you do and I couldn't do what you do.
37:13
And, you know, That there's nothing special about me man.
37:16
I barely graduated high school. I can't.
37:18
I'm just like anybody else, okay.
37:20
The one thing that I was able to do is get strategy and get
37:25
stronger, and overcome sins and have victory over things that
37:29
had defeated. My me my whole life and anybody
37:33
can have that Victory, okay? If you have a habitual sin or if
37:37
you have a stronghold in your life, then that's a problem.
37:40
God didn't send his son to die on the cross so you could barely
37:43
make it through. Life and struggle.
37:45
We should have powerful Victory, okay?
37:47
We can get set free of strongholds, and break curses,
37:50
and all that stuff. And I lived under a curse, I had
37:54
strongholds in my life, you know, I tell people that the
37:57
devil used to kick my butt all day long.
37:59
I go to bed and I wake up in the morning and be like, okay, I'm
38:01
ready to get my butt kicked again.
38:03
But when I learned my authority, when I learned the armor, when I
38:06
learned strategy, spiritual warfare, all of these things, my
38:11
life changed. And instead of getting Bucket on
38:14
the time, I started doing some butt kicking.
38:17
So with all that being said, thank you for being here, with
38:21
the millennial must. You see podcast, I hope you can
38:23
come back again in the future and we can just keep this
38:26
awesome conversation going. I would love to praise God.
38:29
And yeah, I would love to ride. Thank you so much.
38:31
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