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Part Time Muslims - Muharram & Imam Hussain (as) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Salam alaikum. Warahmatullahi wabarakatu,
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are now in the month of Muharram.
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Say that Ali we're talking about about the love Hussein Saddam
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and specifically. We're talking about the way we
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commemorate them. The way we learn from him and
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also perhaps talking about those of us and many of us fall into
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this category of those people who find spirituality during the
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Season. But maybe flicker in our
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spirituality outside. Mmm.
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I'm on, you know, we are in the sorrowful month of Muharram and
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it's a time where everyone has their own personal connection
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with this month. You know, some people just want
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to mourn. Some people want to become
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better Muslim, some people want to do both.
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And then, you know, there are other people who just turn on
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during these ten nights. Mmm, so I, you know, you
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mentioned, everyone has their own way, you know, it's like
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seasonal. Oh yeah, where, you know, some
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people get attached to the month of Ramadan?
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But the more more importantly for shh, they have this sort of
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big attachment when it comes to the month of Muharram.
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And I believe is because they know what Imam Hussain means to
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them and they have this connection.
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Now, I'm not saying they don't have that connection directly
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from Allah by his fruit above the london-based that we can
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actually respond with Allah. So I've seen this like, sort of
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rise And I don't know if it's the right term to use why I'm
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going to call them part-time Muslims.
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Hmm, if it's fair, I hope I don't offend anyone listening to
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this because there is the sort of Rise where people only
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connect with about Abdullah. The message of Mombasa in the
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message of karbala during these 10.
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I don't think it's incorrect. Also to say that I knew speaking
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for myself, many of us feel it fall into that category
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ourselves. As, as you said, part-time
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Muslims, because it's natural when you're congregationally
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morning about Dalal Hussein has lots of live somewhere.
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They, we many of the time, we will more easily connect because
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we know in Islam when we mourn together when we pray together,
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when we do the liquor together, a last one to Allah gives us
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more blessings and opens your heart up even more.
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So of course when we are talking about Imam Hussein and when we
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sit together and modulus when we do love them or martim together
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that in a for many of us, Of us, opens our heart up and it's not
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in my opinion. It's not a bad thing.
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If anything to us, it should be a Beacon of Hope, like a kind of
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flickering candle in your heart, which says that there is hope
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inside you. There is some softness in your
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heart, which is leaning pulling you towards about Abdullah, it's
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just there for us to take it to the next level and escalate
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that, that small candle and turn it into a fire of love for the
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religion of Allah small island on for ultimately, Lonely, of
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course, of course. And and, and no way.
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Am I saying, for example, I am or you are.
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Yeah. Anyone's better than anyone, but
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it's something. I've always thought about
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because, you know, Imam Husain was more than just these ten
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nights and Imam Hussein, is someone who is bigger than just
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a hazard, or everything, you know, because we know for
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example, like, even during the Battle of karbala, he stopped to
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pray Salah, and there's all these things.
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And when I say, But part-time Muslims, let me just make it
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clear. I am not a full-time Muslim.
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We try to be we try to we try called is there and show this?
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I love the fact. How Imam Hussain brings them
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back to that path. Brings them back to Allah
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subhanahu wa'ta'ala and I don't know if it's, for example, the
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communities fall, I don't know if it's, you know, the majority
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says, was attracting them or taking them away from the Census
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best just to see them, attend the ten nights just to see them,
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you know? Dressing in the black morning
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above the line for saying is something amazing.
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Just to see mom was saying how he brings everyone, no matter
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how far you've gone, you know how much you know some people
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lose their way in life, that seemed a saying, brings them
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back and back here after the message of Imam, Hussain is
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infectious, my opinion. I think that there's so many
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things for us to take away with and even if you are home are not
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fully connecting with the modulus you don't fully get it.
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Yeah you go your goal. Liz there.
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It's okay. If you if you're unable to shed
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a tear for a mom, who saying at this stage, it's okay.
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Don't worry about it. You see people posting poetry,
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you see people reciting lock me out, you see, people sharing
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videos tweeting, Yahoo saying, all sorts of different things
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and you feel where do I fit into this community?
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What lights absolutely fine. As long as you're gold, you're
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near is that to get to the stage where about, the lies are
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crucial critical and crucial part of your life, because we
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know him as sophina tonnage, The Ark of Salvation.
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Imam, Hussain will take us from where we are to where we need to
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get to, you know, the Imam Hussain is our salvation and
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Dunya and in akhirah Charla. So, you know, that's a big
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reason why I think many of us fall in love with with these
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that's the season. You just.
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I think you know hit the nail the hammer fall in love and
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we're saying is literally the meaning of Love.
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Hmm. You know that I once I once
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wrote some poetry It's like every love has an ending except
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for the love of Husain way and and I think it's that love that
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brings everyone towards. You know, the majority is
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towards our towards the service and you know what's so beautiful
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about serving him a saying is that no one loves to be called
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the servants but everyone dies to be called Servants of your
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own her, same Marshall and it's again even those people who are
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not really connected with the faith.
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Those people who are not really you know, doing the watch about
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all the time, it is because of him Mom.
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Saying they are coming back and they are doing the watch about
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and in fact, they're doing even more, they are doing the most
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Hibachi and it's it's just to think how Imam Hussain has like
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change the world. It's crazy.
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It's crazy. You know, there are so many
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people who look at us and they say you.
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She are why do you care so much about her saying?
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I'm Natalie? Why'd you come every single
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year. All you do is talk about Imam
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Hussein. You want to know why we talk
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about her saying that? I need so much.
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It's because As we learn from him, it's because we remember
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that about Abdullah. Al Hussein has a legacy and
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those who understand Imam hussain's Legacy, understand
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that. If you see something in the
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story of your mom, you can apply it to your life.
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If you see famine and thirst in the world around you you
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remember Al Abbas. And you remember how he went out
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of his way? He lost his Limbs and his life
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to quench? The Thirst of the women folk in
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this Camp. When you see bullying in school,
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your children are suffering in school.
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You remember, I'll pass him how as a young man, he stood in the
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face of Oppression, and he stood tall regardless of any
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aggression or violence that he was faced with.
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And when you see domestic abuse, when you see violence with
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disparities amongst genders, you remember, zainab, Salam, allahi,
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Allah. And we remember how she stood
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told in the court and she addressed the people like a
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lioness, the daughter of Ali bin ABI Talib.
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And we remember that not just the rights of women, but we
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acknowledge the power a woman can have Hold in today's day and
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age. These lessons are not there for
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us to just come and commemorate on a seasonal basis before us to
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taken to implement at least in my humble opinion into the rest
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of the year and into wider Society indeed.
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But Sade of course, many of us were talking about this concept
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of part-time Muslims, with many of us struggle to find that
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connection between the 10 nights of Muharram and of course other
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buy-in and wider Society. I go to my job and in the
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evening I'm going to modulus. Yeah.
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How do I bring That gap between what I'm hearing and what I'm
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seeing outside of the modulus. You know, a beautiful question
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you asked because I think it's something I can relate to myself
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personally. That's, you know, especially,
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like during the month of Muharram its life becomes more
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than just the ten nights modulus.
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So you sort of live. Every moment of the sorrowful
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nice, all the way until the day of our wine till after supper.
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Yeah. And you sort of continue.
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So, you know, I spoke about people being part-time best.
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Even those part-time is become full-time as comes during this
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tonight. So, for example, you know, we
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can start our day off, listening to the orchestra and, you know,
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this opens the hot, you know, as much as sad to listen and
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understand the worst that's being said, and as you are it
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really opens the heart. And once you hear this Tiara
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from the I think you've solved set tone of how the evening so
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you have like sort of prepare yourself to go towards Majoris
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and throughout the measures and the morning of the are short,
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you go to your day-to-day work, you dressed in black, you know,
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you're still feeling that morning, you know, emotion and
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your thoughts are still about, you know what you heard in the
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majority of the day before and so it's more than just lessons
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during the majority's itself. So you can even Even you bring
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the example of drinking water, remembering the other, and
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something. So, beautiful.
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That even outside of the thinness of Muharram or even
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outside the the month of Muharram Safar, whenever you
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drink water automatically thinking of saying, yes, and I
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just remembered a beautiful organization called Hussein
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drink with, I think Hussein. And it's it's it's it's an
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amazing message for the meeting with it is this interesting as
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well, especially when we talk about the concept.
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Of using, I know you mentioned, is reciting the outside
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shoulder. Mmm, at the beginning of the
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day, I think something like that.
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Small thing like that can make a difference to long-term change
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because in my opinion, the month of Muharram as a trigger or
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maybe, as a catalyst should be used to find small changes, you
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can make in your life. What is about Delight?
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If he's not sacrifice, what's his message?
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If it's not giving you know you give something which you
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wouldn't usually give all you take away something which you
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love ya. I think during these nice your
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heart becomes softer. Yeah.
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And you are less, you know, it's less about, you know, should I
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say enjoying the day? It's more about, you know, a
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compliment of accomplishing. What the task is, getting it
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done was not being too energetic about it but you know, your
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heart softened. So everything changes around
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you, what you do at home, how you speak with people, even how
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you look at yourself. So not only you always liked
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right away, smiled, be energetic, best Softness say
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this, in my opinion, I think it goes one step further because of
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course, these are the things that will do whether or whether
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or not we fully connect with about the large, you get me, so
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will wear black and will feel sad and so on and so forth as we
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should 100%. But there are small things, I
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think we should, we should take into account every year and
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small things we can sacrifice. I've Pasar possibly like,
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misunderstood the conversation here in at all.
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No, I don't think one example. So, as an example let's say,
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Something small in your life, you want to get rid of something
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which is not less aim for something in your life.
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You want to get rid of. It doesn't have to be too
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magnanimous to the point where I think this is a mammoth task.
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I can't do it. Yeah, but it doesn't have to be
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so easy to put in. Think this is really easy for me
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to stop doing auto, start doing as an example, if you're
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listening to music, okay? And you stopped listening to
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music during Muharram every year, but you restart after my
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arm has many people do. Let's go that one step further.
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If you're watching something, you shouldn't be watching doing
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something. You shouldn't be doing that goes
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for men and for women use this chance.
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This opportune moment to take into account, the sacrifice that
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you would make in previous years or even not but apply what you
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learn and what you cry for and what you're in for the night.
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Apply that to the day do things that you wouldn't usually do
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stop doing things that you usually do.
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Do you see what I mean? I think I think those are the
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things which which are critical for us to do these days.
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You know I saw him on the stand your point now and you mentioned
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something you mentioned music and music is a huge, huge
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problem. Yeah, I respect the fact that
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people actually turn off completely at least for the
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first time nice of Muharram is completely turned off and it's
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something you know I have high respectful best.
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It's a shame that people continue back to the music just
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as soon as our children is off and I really hope people can
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change and learn that, you know, Muharram and Imam Hussain.
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And the message of Allah is not just 10 days and it's not just
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30 days on Amazon. For example, it's it's your day
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to day, life, you know, being a Muslim.
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Yeah. In particular, being a Shia
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Muslim, you always have to be one.
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Step ahead, do one step more than everyone else and honestly,
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because we have the best of examples and we can always
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relate to the best. And then from the elevated level
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sallam, and you know, they speak so heavily against music for
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example, but unfortunately, people still listen to it after
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tonight's that's one thing I think the youth sorry to use the
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phrase again, the part-time is they just turned off during the
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ten nights. Yeah, that's not just music, but
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other things it is talking to the other gender.
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You know, they stopped going out for example, to have fun with
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the boys or the girls with the females.
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It's let's try do more, yeah. I mean, you mentioned music
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personally, speaking, I can relate to this.
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I used to struggle with music a lot.
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Hmm, a lot Growing Up. Music is an addiction and if
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you've not faced it likely not imagining you struggling with me
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snuff music. Honestly, speaking is addictive,
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it's a drug and many people are, we have to understand because we
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don't to sit here looking like people who are like, you know,
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what do we call it? Like, I'll come and do what the
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people who like looking down. We don't be condescending in the
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way we approach this, because we have to understand that many
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people involuntarily. Listen to music.
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You're born into a culture, you don't live, for example, in
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Muslim area, some people do, but even then we go to schools with
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surrounded by it. We go shopping, we're surrounded
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by it. We turn on the radio in the car,
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we're surrounded by it, YouTube adverts, everywhere you go.
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You're faced with music when I was about 15, know when I was
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maybe 16 or 17, I was one of those.
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Time is when it came to music specifically every Muharram from
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a young age, my parents and credit to them.
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They hummed along may Allah bless them, lengthen, their
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lives. Always would tell me this is
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what you should be doing and don't just stop in Muharram,
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stop for good. You know, in those days, it was
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really easy. I think to get around, listen to
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the music and being caught, but I must have been when I was
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about 17, I heard a lecture in my local Center and it was on
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the night of Oshawa. The night of the 10th and it was
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a youth seminar. This just goes to show why youth
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seminars are so important outside of the majority, this
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itself. And someone asked a question
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about, how can I take something away from this night or tomorrow
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night and apply it to my life? And the, the sheriff said
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something very applicable. He said find something small
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which you know, you shouldn't do something that you want to stop
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doing. Just make that near tonight.
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I'm about to they'll be there. He'll help you.
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He's the witness to your Of you. See what I mean?
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I went home. I did all the songs of my phone.
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One by one. Took me few hours, but I
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remember that day and it was for me, it was like a revelation,
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I'm not gonna lie, I had a relapse here or there, but that
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was, you know, for a short period.
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And once you make that first step, it becomes so much easier,
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and it's not just music. It's other addictions, we talk
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about drug addictions all the time.
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We talk about, you know, a substance abuse.
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But outside of that addictions in today's day and age like
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social media, Are talking to the opposite, gender.
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We've always talked on this podcast.
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How easy is to talk to girls on social media for girls, to talk
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to boys, it's an addiction. Find a way to stop it, saber
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smell and take it day by day. I want to ask.
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You said, if you in that position and I don't know if you
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have been but for those who stopped listening to music but
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people who are like like Melodies, you know, you can
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relate to that. What can you recommend?
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I mean, me personally and I'm being very honest here.
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I have never had the Handler. Yeah, I've never been in that
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situation where music is always playing in the errors or
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something. For me is like, you know, you go
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into a store Tesco and stereo background or your hearing on
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the, when I was a kid TV on the cartoons, Johnny, yeah.
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That was like my exposure and then, you know, friends are
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school. They should play in the
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background. So for me, it was all just was
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the surrounding, slight noise. Yeah, was it means directly best
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for someone who's struggling. Music.
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There is alternative. Okay, firstly, Quran al-karim.
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That's before I get into anything else.
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That is the is Yanni just hearing the words and it is
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recited by someone with the most amazing Melody.
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It takes you to the heavens. Honestly.
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It's 10 times 100 times 1000 times better than music itself.
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And but more importantly, if we're discussing music around
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the month of Muharram you can listen to 0, you can listen to
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lectures, you can listen to no has loved me has eulogies and
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you know mashallah very recently over the last few years.
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You know the voice of shh eulogist, has upgraded.
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Yeah so you know you've got just like Dude, you're recording on
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and on, you've got people using western-style Melodies.
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So there are alternatives and these are the adults and it's,
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and it satisfies that craving. I think it does.
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I think it does. The fact that you can hear these
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even outside of the month of Ramadan, of the month of
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Muharram. You know, I think that's a
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really good point because specifically speaking and 10,
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we're going to come to the discussion of other diary in
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future to conversations, but I Leave.
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And I may be wrong but I believe there's a Hadith where there's a
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moment, Barker alaihi Salam gathers around 100 to 120
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eulogists with the most beautiful voices, and he says to
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them dispersed into the lands and tell the people the story of
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my grandfather using your voices because that will connect to
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people. Me personally, it was do I just
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this year, which is a beautiful doll.
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I'll be honest. I didn't know this dog before
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before that, when I stopped Music.
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It was my mom who introduced me to it and she was a bit of a
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weird backstory but she had a dream of my mother Houma, Auntie
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reciting it, my dad sister, and she came and she told me she was
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said, we're going to listen to this every day.
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I want you to learn it. So I learnt it and I had that
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craving for something melodic. Do you saw him?
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Allah? Bless us all.
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That's beautiful. Yeah, I mean and it's those
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things I pick up. You stop picking up a lot of
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information. You learn about other cultures
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other languages. Other Ways of morning other ways
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of grieving poetry. There's so many beautiful
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insights which you can pick up but I think obviously music has
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one angle one element but it's as a story or as a concept that
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the sacrifice that you make is applicable to so many other
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things. I mean music, it's one of many.
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Yeah. You know you got music you've
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got interacting with the opposite John I think that's the
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most biggest want to be honest because of the age we live in,
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especially on social media. On this new world.
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We came up with digital her job. Yeah.
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It is so easy. Like, I think, even during the
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month, the month of Muharram people are still speaking with
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the opposite gender and the excuse of, you know, we're
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discussing the little carbonara with discussing modulus or
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whatnot. Best even that I'm not we aim to
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get rid of it completely, but if you can't at least take a ten
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step slower, you know, if just because you were discussing or
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relating to them, For model, doesn't mean you can continue
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talking with the opposite gender.
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For example, has only you go, the music issue.
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You've got the opposite gender issue.
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You got another thing. Another thing that's really,
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really sad. Yeah, it's that a lot of the
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time after the measures is over, we have people going out and
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laughing. Yeah.
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So, I'm not saying they're going out to have fun basis us if they
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just, you know, they stepped outside the measureless They go
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back to spining. Laughing joking.
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And I think that's something that also should be avoided.
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Because if that's something you avoid it will change.
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Its very easy to turn a majority or turning modulus into a social
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Affair. And, you know, I haven't seen
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these guys reunions and you having fun and even to be fair,
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goes with all age groups. Like I remember they, when I was
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a kid. Yeah, let's just say, for
23:20
example, don't joke, don't laugh, don't smile cause I know
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a small quite a bit, it's a Must have been my nature.
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It's not bad things. Say that's, they even went.
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As far as telling me, you know, don't you come during, for
23:34
example, the month of Muharram, you know, because the seen as
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something as disrespectful, is anything that we can see might
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be a disrespect to Imam. Hussain alehissalaam?
23:43
Is your brain is telling you something, you all disrespect, I
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think. I think we have to, we have to
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think of it from an angle of Imam.
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Hussain alehissalaam means to us more than our own parents.
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Bi bi and only me, you know, what I mean?
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And when we say this, we are actually committing to Mom and
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her saying our parents and not just our parents, but our whole
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being ourselves and God forbid, you know, if something happened
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to one of our close family members, we would naturally be
24:16
sorrowful. Gonna be disrespectful, we
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shouldn't go to see films. We wouldn't go to a modulus and
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start joking around, so we need to change the way.
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See if Imam Hussein and we said at the beginning, for those who
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don't even have that emotional connection, it's fine.
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Make the near, you know, when we say about crying in the modulus
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even the span of the wing of a fly, if a tear comes out of
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your, I thought am I will be there for you and just to add to
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that. They actually even say that if
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you can't shed, tears. Yeah, you can actually just bow.
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Your head down, low your head. Yeah, that's efficient enough.
24:48
You get the same reward but said, let me ask you if someone
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at home is listening to this right now and, and As this in
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their heart and they think I really want to connect this
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Muharram, I even outside of the ten days.
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I struggle I just doesn't click with me.
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Like it does I'm falling out of love or a but I know I shouldn't
25:08
be. What would you have to say to
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them? Johnny, I can, you give me an
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example? If someone's listening to this,
25:15
they think they go to the matches.
25:16
Every time they look around, they see, two three, four
25:20
hundred people crying. And they're just thinking, where
25:23
do I fit in? Because there are people like
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that. There are people who think, I
25:27
don't feel like I'm fully apart of this outside of this much
25:30
since I have my own identity. I have my own life, but I know
25:34
there's in my heart. I'm here.
25:36
I want to make benefit of it. I want to change the way I look
25:39
at it. What would you have to say to
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that? I think number one they're not
25:43
alone. There are many who fall into
25:45
that category even sometimes our self.
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Yeah. Sometimes I can go to
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measureless one day. I can be like seriously heavily
25:52
emotionally like into it upside down.
25:56
And then for example, you'll have one night where you, you
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know, really shedding tears and you look around and you say you
26:03
know what have I done wrong sometimes I think like there's
26:05
no tears coming out. Sometimes I'm like, have I done
26:08
something wrong has something like affected?
26:10
Because I've always had like for example like if you do something
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that's not accepted by the elevator is very rare that
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you'll actually shed tears for them.
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So sometimes I have that thought so never know runs are no when
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it comes to this because I believe if they can understand
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fully why we are morning, they will have that connection.
26:28
Because a lot of people and I think myself back in the day,
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all I knew was, for example, you know, thankfully, I was raised
26:37
in the household, I am in and grateful to my father.
26:40
I think but there were some points where I'm like things
26:43
don't make sense or for example Shimmer I use a rocket on.
26:47
This is my mean what you call that what you call it in
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English. For example why did this happen
26:55
or for example the demand for saying no he was going to die
26:59
like all these questions if you actually is not the understand.
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Yeah, everything that happened at karbala and everything before
27:07
karbala happened after karbala happened, you will have that.
27:10
Connection. Because a lot of times I feel
27:13
like people who don't have that connection with the nice of
27:15
Muharram or the message of Imam, Hussain, they don't really know
27:19
what happened at car, but all they know they grew up.
27:21
Is your own percent died? He was killed by someone called.
27:24
Yes, you did. And Zana went along to become
27:29
Captain, so they don't know everything and all they know is
27:31
those small small things honestly.
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Speaking said, sorry to interrupt you also say like I
27:37
think I think it's okay for that but I don't mean it's okay to No
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thing, of course, if we have the opportunity, we need to know as
27:43
much detail as we can. But there are so many disputed
27:45
elements but the main thing is, is that we live in a world now,
27:51
21st century Society now, more than ever does our generation
27:56
within our community and The Wider outside Society need to
27:59
know about Imam, Hussein they do and we don't have any, we don't
28:02
have excuses. By the way, the fact that you
28:04
say we live in the 21st century. Yeah, we have every resource
28:06
available to us. Yes, the internet exactly be it.
28:10
You to be apple podcasts. I'm sure I'm very sure.
28:13
There are lectures. And there are sermons and there
28:17
are everything that has to do with carpal mineable.
28:19
Unlike Point specifically in regards to this is, you made a
28:22
really nice statement. When you said, we need to
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understand why we are mourning because Imam Hussein, when he
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said Hellman lasted only until Donna, he's not just talking to
28:31
the people around him on that day 10th of Muharram.
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All those years ago he's talking to us today because we see greed
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and capitalism in society. Do we?
28:39
Not think that people who Struggling with poverty would be
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in need of Imam. Hussain for hope we see for
28:44
example, war and famine destruction left, right and
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Center. Do we not think that people who
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are war-torn refugees and Asylum Seekers can benefit from the
28:52
message of my person. Even for us our day-to-day lives
28:55
and allow, we're settled, and we're comfortable and all of
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Allah's blessings to us even in our lives.
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When we see some form of Oppression, we see some form of
29:04
Injustice, we learn from about the lad that stand up.
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Don't take it stand up and And speak up and these are the
29:12
lessons, which I think the wider world needs to know is all well
29:15
and good talking about Mahatma Gandhi and Mother Teresa and so
29:17
on. But it mom and her saying, we
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truly believe will give us that and more, do you see what I
29:23
mean? So, I think when we understand
29:25
that Imam Hussein, and, and the concept of morning goes beyond
29:29
what our community, and what our families have taught us, an Imam
29:32
hussain's messages, ultimately Universal, which I know is a
29:36
cliche term, but his Universal message is such that Even the
29:40
the most kind of the skeleton details of his story should and
29:45
will inspire The Wider world but it's our responsibility to get
29:48
out there. It is our responsibility and you
29:50
said something, by the way. So amazing.
29:52
And it really makes sense any for people to go out and search
29:57
and research and try to understand what happened.
29:59
Yeah, I kind of a lot because at the end of the day, what
30:02
happened I cared about was a tragedy of course, but what was
30:04
the reason for my mom, saying to come out.
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Mmm, like people don't know why he came out, all they know
30:09
someone killed. The grandson of rasool Allah and
30:11
like I said by is it? And but I was more than that he
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actually came to restore. The faith of Allah and bring
30:20
back the teachings of his grandfather or sort of lost a
30:22
lolly - Elam. And he sacrificed himself, and
30:25
his family in the way of Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala.
30:27
So, had it not been for that sacrifice as a not being for,
30:30
you know, Imam Husain where even when the floor all day, it was
30:35
gone and he said, behold hot Ava, got take all you want until
30:39
you are satisfied. like he gave everything family himself even
30:46
knew his women are going to go captive, like he gave everything
30:50
for Allah, subhanahu, wa'ta'ala Somali Somali, Camilla
31:01
Realistically, there will be no Salam.
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Ya abso. We are grateful and thankful.
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This is one of the reasons we remember him.
31:09
And we have to remind ourselves. Now, ask you as my brother, to
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always keep me on on that path nudge me.
31:17
Remind me together, together in sha Allah, and we should do that
31:20
for each other. Because there's so many of us,
31:21
our friends, our community members who are struggling and
31:25
it could be your mental health. You could be struggling at work,
31:28
you could be struggling in your marriage, but these are things,
31:30
which We have to find a connection between our
31:34
day-to-day issues and problems and connecting that with sort of
31:38
Abdullah Hussein. I believe that for every issue
31:41
we have in our lives today. There's an answer if we're
31:43
talking about Mis-Education, Miss information, how people are
31:47
being misguided, because, of course, this is a huge issue.
31:49
Right now, in wider Society, we look at the companions of
31:53
Abdullah, that although it's a minority, there are those who
31:56
remembered the truth and the rightful message of Imam,
31:59
Hussain and stayed close to him. I'm out that whether that take
32:02
them that took them to the Salvation to the ultimate
32:05
promise, you know, the Tranquil soul that we yearn to be.
32:09
And the last one Tyler talks about in the Holy Quran.
32:11
And of course we know the root of our serum that is referring
32:13
to a mom and her saying but we yearn to be tranquil in our
32:18
dealings and you know as much as we would love to.
32:21
Let's be frank and I say this like to all my might like
32:24
friends and family. The police were bored of hearing
32:26
it from me but over 1400 years. Naught Point naught naught,
32:31
naught, naught, naught 1, or if you're not UK, 0.0001 percent of
32:36
people who have ever believed in Shi ISM or the message of about
32:39
that. I have ever visited, karbala we
32:42
are such a, my new population of people who have had the blessing
32:46
to go. And of course, we love to go
32:48
every year. We would love to visit him all
32:50
the time. Reality is life isn't like that.
32:53
We do have Peaks and Trust we fall in and out of love.
32:56
We remember and we forget about Imam Hussein in our day-to-day
32:59
lives. The most important thing for us
33:01
to do is like, you said incorporate habits in our life,
33:04
which will bring us back to the right path.
33:07
So, what I mean, I think for me at least, like I when I struggle
33:11
and I struggle a lot and, you know, only Allah knows, but when
33:15
I struggled, and then when I hear his message, or I hear a
33:19
poem or hear something, you've aside to say it or honestly in
33:23
it triggers something in my heart and it brings you closer.
33:26
Yeah, yeah, that's that's right. And, you know, Just by you
33:30
saying, this was a lot honestly. All I could think of this car
33:32
Belong by the way, so those sharks are as follows Allah to
33:36
grant us the opportunity like human to go to the holy shrines
33:39
and, you know, people listening to this podcast, be at home
33:42
wherever you are Channel like to see the opportunity as well.
33:45
And more importantly, I think speaking of Zara, mmm, the most
33:50
beautiful thing for you to have connection with the amount for
33:54
saying, is go to see our. Mmm.
33:56
Honestly, it's something else. If you ever have the haja that
34:02
your first, if you've never been zero before they say, the first
34:05
time that you go and enter the shrine of Imam Hussain and you
34:08
stand on the his Dome and you ask Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala
34:11
throw, Bob De La Hoya just guaranteed hmm.
34:15
It's it's something everyone has tried and test have if you don't
34:20
mind, I know where dragging on. I want to ask you, how many
34:23
times have you been okay? On average roughly or the, the
34:27
first time I was blessed to go to Ciara.
34:30
Was when my father passed away. So before my father passed away,
34:34
I've never been there because he's buried.
34:35
Incredible do so, we had the blessing.
34:39
Yeah, of his burial taking place in the holy land, so we were
34:42
able to go to the, do the genre. But ever since yeah, I've been
34:47
trying to go every single year and I think I've been there
34:50
during are buying about four times more shallow and outside
34:54
the bar behind. I've been to Iraq.
34:57
I think about 45 times as well. So oftentimes A, since the into
35:01
the same 2008 Shah Alam going, this are buying God.
35:04
Willing fly is booked us inshaallah amongst ourselves
35:08
with calm and sha Allah shall upon sisters as always.
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35:13
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35:17
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