Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / DIDDY DONE? FAKE APOLOGY AFTER COMBS BRUTALLY BEATS, KICKS, CASSIE ON VIDEO
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Breaking News tonight, Sean Puffy Combs aka Diddy aka p Diddy.
- 0:13Speaker 1: We saw the video of.
- 0:16Speaker 2: You brutally beating and kicking and dragging Cassie and now
- 0:23Speaker 2: you apologize. Now, apology not accepted. I'll see you in court.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
- 0:36Speaker 1: you for being with us.
- 0:38Speaker 3: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
- 0:42Speaker 3: your life. Sometimes you gotta do that. I was, I mean,
- 0:50Speaker 3: I had rob bottom, but I make no excuses. My
- 0:55Speaker 3: behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take responsibility for
- 1:01Speaker 3: my ashes in that video. I'm so sorry, but I'm
- 1:10Speaker 3: committed to be a better managent every day. I'm not
- 1:14Speaker 3: asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I don't know about you.
- 1:23Speaker 2: But he looks like he's reading to me all that
- 1:27Speaker 2: I'm sorry, technical legal term b S. He's not sorry
- 1:33Speaker 2: he did it. He's sorry he got caught. Have you
- 1:37Speaker 2: seen the video now? How is it at that time
- 1:43Speaker 2: no charges were filed, and you know hotel security saw
- 1:48Speaker 2: the whole thing.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Do you believe his apology?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Is it not a day late and a dollar short? Well,
- 1:56Speaker 2: apparently other people agree with me.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Listen.
- 1:59Speaker 4: According to Ernest to Owens, Sean Ditty Combs is only
- 2:02Speaker 4: apologizing because he got caught. Owens calls Comb's apology another
- 2:06Speaker 4: pathetic move, pointing out that Combs does not acknowledge Cassie
- 2:09Speaker 4: Ventura by name or directly apologize to her. Combs has
- 2:13Speaker 4: previously denied Ventura's allegations repeatedly, but this latest cought in
- 2:17Speaker 4: the Act video has changed his tune. Owen says it
- 2:21Speaker 4: is hard to take anything Diddy says seriously following several
- 2:24Speaker 4: prior written attacks on his accusers.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Now what written attacks are we talking about? I got
- 2:29Speaker 1: to tell you something.
- 2:31Speaker 2: There are a lot of criminal defense attorneys out there.
- 2:34Speaker 2: This one will win your case. Ben Broffman. That's where
- 2:41Speaker 2: you go when there's nowhere to go, Ben Broffman. He's
- 2:45Speaker 2: representing Sean Combe's aka Ditty.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Listen.
- 2:51Speaker 4: Cassie Ventura's lawsuit against Ditty includes a very specific event
- 2:54Speaker 4: from March of twenty sixteen, where Ventura alleges that Didty
- 2:58Speaker 4: became extremely intoxicated in hunch Ventura in the feace, giving
- 3:01Speaker 4: her a black eye. Did He's lawyer, Ben Braffman tells
- 3:04Speaker 4: people in a statement that comes vehemently denies these offensive
- 3:08Speaker 4: and outrageous allegations and alleges that Ventura is filing the
- 3:11Speaker 4: lawsuit after first demanding thirty million dollars or she would
- 3:15Speaker 4: write a book about their relationship. Brafman says Ventura is
- 3:18Speaker 4: seeking a payday.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Now, Remember the lawyer is the mouthpiece for the defendant.
- 3:25Speaker 2: The lawyer doesn't say anything that the defendant doesn't want said.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So when you hear Brafman saying, oh.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Cassie Ventirozes, she just wants money, nothing happened to her,
- 3:38Speaker 2: this is bs.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:40Speaker 2: No, We've seen the video and all of his denying
- 3:45Speaker 2: and claiming, and remember this is important. That's what he
- 3:48Speaker 2: says about all the women that are claiming he abused them,
- 3:52Speaker 2: they all want a payday. I don't believe that anymore.
- 3:57Speaker 2: With me an all star panel to make sense of
- 3:59Speaker 2: what we know right now now, But for straight out
- 4:01Speaker 2: to Keela Brantley, investigative reporter dailymail dot Com on the
- 4:06Speaker 2: case from the beginning. You know, I think this is
- 4:10Speaker 2: just the beginning, Kila, But bring me up to date
- 4:13Speaker 2: as of right now.
- 4:14Speaker 5: Absolutely, Nancy, And as you said, Ditty's only apologizing right
- 4:18Speaker 5: now because he got caught. Everyone sees right through that apology,
- 4:22Speaker 5: including Cassie Ventura, who released a statement via her lawyer
- 4:26Speaker 5: who called Ditty's apology pathetic. Essentially, he's saying that he's
- 4:31Speaker 5: only our Cassie, saying that he's only compelled to speak
- 4:34Speaker 5: out now because of this damning evidence. And as you
- 4:38Speaker 5: very well may know that abusers, it's not just an
- 4:41Speaker 5: isolated incident. We can assume that this has happened before.
- 4:45Speaker 5: Cassie did speak about this exact incident back in her
- 4:49Speaker 5: lawsuit from last fall. She said that there was an
- 4:52Speaker 5: incident at a hotel where he came into the hallway
- 4:55Speaker 5: abused her, and that Diddy allegedly paid fifty thousand dollars
- 4:59Speaker 5: to the hotel to get the video and for it
- 5:02Speaker 5: to never be released. Obviously, now we know CNN has
- 5:05Speaker 5: now had that video released it to the world, which
- 5:07Speaker 5: now compelled Diddy to apologize.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Keilla Brantley, I think you're exactly correct.
- 5:14Speaker 6: Listen, Cassie Ventura escaped Sean Combs by getting on the
- 5:17Speaker 6: elevator at the Intercontinental Hotel, leaving the hotel and going
- 5:20Speaker 6: to her own apartment. At her residence, she fears Combs
- 5:22Speaker 6: will be even angrier at her for running away, so
- 5:25Speaker 6: Ventura returns to the hotel intent on apologizing to Combs.
- 5:28Speaker 6: As she returns, hotel security staff urged her to get
- 5:31Speaker 6: back in the cab and go home. They've seen the
- 5:33Speaker 6: security footage of Comb's beating Ventura and throwing glass vases
- 5:37Speaker 6: at her in the hotel hallway. In her lawsuit against Combs,
- 5:40Speaker 6: she claims he pays the hotel fifty thousand dollars for
- 5:43Speaker 6: footage of the hallway assault, again.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel.
- 5:46Speaker 2: In addition to Kiala Brantley from dailymail dot com, straight
- 5:48Speaker 2: out to Sam d'ordiullian, sex assault lawyer and former LA
- 5:53Speaker 2: County six crimes felony prosecutor, founder of the Doordulian Law Group, Sam,
- 5:59Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know, before video
- 6:04Speaker 2: was pervasive, no matter where you go, there's a camera
- 6:07Speaker 2: on you. Very Typically the defense would say you can't
- 6:11Speaker 2: prove that.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Now we have a video.
- 6:15Speaker 2: So the fallback is, let's say the video was doctored,
- 6:19Speaker 2: the video was tampered with, or I'm sorry. I'm a
- 6:24Speaker 2: different man now. I'm praying for forgiveness. I'm praying to
- 6:27Speaker 2: be a better man.
- 6:28Speaker 1: I got counseling.
- 6:29Speaker 7: Really, you know what's disgusting, Nancy, is that's what you
- 6:33Speaker 7: hear all the time, is that I'm sorry. But why
- 6:36Speaker 7: did he have to go and attack the victim in
- 6:39Speaker 7: this particular case. If he truly took responsibility for what
- 6:42Speaker 7: he did, if he truly was disgusted as he claimed
- 6:45Speaker 7: in his video his supposed apology, then why did he
- 6:50Speaker 7: call her a liar to in the public. Why did
- 6:53Speaker 7: he say she's just looking for a payday? And only
- 6:56Speaker 7: when he got caught Now, all of a sudden, he's.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Sorry, joining me out of FLOORA and a high profile
- 7:01Speaker 2: private investigator, former Federal Task Force, US Department of Justice,
- 7:07Speaker 2: also with the DEA joining me, Robert Crispin from Crispin
- 7:11Speaker 2: Special Investigations. Robert, I'm sure you having dealt with this
- 7:17Speaker 2: same scenario many many times as a PI and with
- 7:21Speaker 2: the Feds. People pay off hotel staff all the time.
- 7:27Speaker 2: And right now the word we're getting from inside the
- 7:30Speaker 2: Diddy camp is that they are fast and furious trying
- 7:34Speaker 2: to make sure other video surveillance will not emerge. What
- 7:39Speaker 2: about it, Crispin? How easy is that to do?
- 7:41Speaker 8: Well?
- 7:42Speaker 9: You know, listen, money talks and this is probably not
- 7:45Speaker 9: the first time it's happened in his camp. And if
- 7:47Speaker 9: you go back, there's the allegations of they paid fifty
- 7:49Speaker 9: thousand dollars for the hotel security to get that video
- 7:52Speaker 9: out there in La So I wouldn't doubt that their
- 7:55Speaker 9: fast and fury is going after ever singing one of
- 7:58Speaker 9: these allegations, and ever singing one of these victim that
- 8:00Speaker 9: they know of their back covering their tracks. It's an
- 8:04Speaker 9: old trick. It's money talks, and people like money. So
- 8:08Speaker 9: there's a lot of people that do some bad things
- 8:11Speaker 9: to cover some bad things.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Sadly enough, so you think it's relatively easy to pay
- 8:17Speaker 2: off hotel security or really any security get rid of surveillance.
- 8:23Speaker 2: It gets quote taped over, it gets lost, nobody can
- 8:28Speaker 2: find it. It happens over and over and over again.
- 8:33Speaker 2: But the kicker is they are not at a hotel
- 8:36Speaker 2: security office. They are not under the same duty as
- 8:40Speaker 2: officers of the court.
- 8:42Speaker 1: It's their private video.
- 8:44Speaker 2: They want to tape over it, they can unless somehow
- 8:50Speaker 2: they realize they're hiding evidence. And why would they tape
- 8:54Speaker 2: over it if they didn't know they were doing it
- 8:57Speaker 2: for a nefarious reason.
- 8:58Speaker 9: Crispin it's tampering with cart launch, it's tampering with evidence.
- 9:02Speaker 9: And anybody who gets involved in this case moving forward
- 9:05Speaker 9: who already has knowledge, I mean, how do you not
- 9:08Speaker 9: have knowledge of this case? And you find a prosecutor
- 9:11Speaker 9: or law enforcement or an agent who can prove through
- 9:14Speaker 9: text messages or undercover surrounances or anything, that you paid
- 9:18Speaker 9: somebody off to get a video, you're catching an obstruction
- 9:21Speaker 9: charge and you're doing a and.
- 9:23Speaker 10: You're also catching a tampering with evidence charge.
- 9:26Speaker 9: Now, back in twenty sixteen when they got that video,
- 9:29Speaker 9: none of this probably got reported yet that's why they
- 9:32Speaker 9: work very fast.
- 9:33Speaker 10: And they threw fifty thousand dollars at these people to get.
- 9:36Speaker 9: That video, thinking it's not out there, thinking that nobody
- 9:38Speaker 9: kept their own copy, and everybody keeps a copy of
- 9:41Speaker 9: their own videos.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Trust me to you, Kila Brantley joining US investigative reporter
- 9:45Speaker 2: dailymail dot com. Fifty grand that's like ten dollars to me.
- 9:50Speaker 2: It's like nothing to Combs, I mean, what is his
- 9:54Speaker 2: net worth?
- 9:54Speaker 5: Well, as Cassie said in the lawsuit that this the
- 9:58Speaker 5: example of paying fifty thousand dollars was absolutely nothing to him,
- 10:01Speaker 5: and it just shows his power and his influence now
- 10:04Speaker 5: reportedly did he's a billionaire and he has so many
- 10:09Speaker 5: different lines. He has Sean John, he has Revolt, and
- 10:12Speaker 5: not only is he a music mogul, he's a fashion
- 10:15Speaker 5: mogul and has been a legend in this industry. So
- 10:17Speaker 5: his net worth is estimated around a billion dollars. Now
- 10:20Speaker 5: with all these legal blows, who knows how much it's
- 10:23Speaker 5: going to go down to Well.
- 10:24Speaker 2: As we know right now, his streaming has plummeted after
- 10:29Speaker 2: this video emerges.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Joining us doctor John Delatory, licensed psychologist mediator who specializes
- 10:49Speaker 2: in forensic psychology. Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us,
- 10:54Speaker 2: Doctor Delatory. I'd like you to look at your screen
- 10:57Speaker 2: with me as we analyze Sean Comes aka Diddy's apology.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Listen.
- 11:08Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but I'm committed to be a better
- 11:14Speaker 3: managin every day. I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
- 11:25Speaker 3: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
- 11:30Speaker 3: your life. Sometimes you gotta do that. I was, I mean,
- 11:37Speaker 3: I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses. My
- 11:42Speaker 3: behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full responsibility
- 11:48Speaker 3: for my actions in that video.
- 11:50Speaker 2: M hmm. Now you're the expert, of course, doted elatory,
- 11:55Speaker 2: but as a lay person or just a trial lawyer,
- 11:58Speaker 2: this is what I observe. I'm so sorry, and he
- 12:02Speaker 2: looks away. That's a hallmark characteristic.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Of a liar.
- 12:06Speaker 2: They cannot look you in the face and just say, look,
- 12:10Speaker 2: I'm sorry. He never mentions Cassie's name, Cassie Ventura. And
- 12:16Speaker 2: you know a few days after that, she was walking
- 12:17Speaker 2: the runway with a red carpet covered in bruises what
- 12:23Speaker 2: nobody noticed.
- 12:24Speaker 1: But I'm sorry to who sorry for what? He won't
- 12:27Speaker 1: say it. He will not say it.
- 12:30Speaker 2: And that was the number one rule when I would
- 12:33Speaker 2: take a guilty plea in court. First of all, I'd
- 12:36Speaker 2: swear the defendant end on the Bible or whatever they
- 12:39Speaker 2: wanted to swear.
- 12:39Speaker 1: On, and they would have to admit what they did.
- 12:43Speaker 2: And if they couldn't say it, I would give them
- 12:45Speaker 2: a fair and accurate rendition of the facts of what
- 12:49Speaker 2: they did, and then say do.
- 12:51Speaker 1: You plead guilty? Did you do it or not?
- 12:54Speaker 2: And if they would not admit to what they did,
- 12:56Speaker 2: to hay with it, get ready, get in line for
- 12:59Speaker 2: a jury. I'm happy to give you exactly what you deserve.
- 13:04Speaker 2: So he never says what he's sorry for. He never
- 13:07Speaker 2: says the name Cassie Ventura or kim Porter or any
- 13:10Speaker 2: of the other women that claim he abused them. He says,
- 13:15Speaker 2: I promise, I'm going to be I'm going to be
- 13:17Speaker 2: a better man. Really, since when, Because that beating was
- 13:22Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and since then there have been a
- 13:25Speaker 2: string of denials where he actually attacks.
- 13:28Speaker 1: The victims, saying they are just out for money.
- 13:32Speaker 2: They ought to sue him for that for defamation, but
- 13:36Speaker 2: that's a whole other can of worms. I'm going to
- 13:38Speaker 2: be a better man when when the video comes out,
- 13:42Speaker 2: he wants that he is in a dark place. What
- 13:46Speaker 2: about the women that he has beaten and brutalized and
- 13:50Speaker 2: from what we've been told, much much more sex abused. Now,
- 13:55Speaker 2: we invited Diddy on today, by the way, and we
- 13:58Speaker 2: didn't hear back answer up to these questions. He talks
- 14:02Speaker 2: about hitting rock bottom, but yet he never did anything
- 14:08Speaker 2: to make amends. Isn't that one of the rules of
- 14:12Speaker 2: the ten step programs? You have to acknowledge what you
- 14:16Speaker 2: did and go and apologize and then make it right.
- 14:23Speaker 2: I'm not seeing any of that in this BS fake apology.
- 14:27Speaker 11: Now, and let me tell you what I'm seeing right
- 14:29Speaker 11: as someone who treats sex offenders, what I'm seeing is
- 14:32Speaker 11: what we call transitory guilt and reconstitution. What that means
- 14:36Speaker 11: is that in the moment, the person can kind of
- 14:39Speaker 11: feel guilty, but they're not actually feeling that empathy associated
- 14:43Speaker 11: with having a victim, and the reconstitution is actually about
- 14:47Speaker 11: building yourself in a position that the rest of the
- 14:50Speaker 11: public won't believe anything that other victims say. So it's
- 14:55Speaker 11: putting you back in a position where people believe that
- 14:58Speaker 11: you're not capable of doing these kinds of behaviors anymore.
- 15:02Speaker 11: And you see that a lot right under this video.
- 15:05Speaker 11: There are a lot of comments of people, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 11: in supportive Diddy. The issue isn't that he's not, you know,
- 15:11Speaker 11: saying sorry to the victims. The issue is that he's
- 15:14Speaker 11: What he's saying sorry too, is to all of the followers,
- 15:18Speaker 11: the people that he can gather around him, and that
- 15:21Speaker 11: that will be helpful in insulating him from other attacks
- 15:24Speaker 11: that are going to be coming from him. This is
- 15:26Speaker 11: still part of the offense cycle. This is still stuff
- 15:30Speaker 11: that an offender does in order to protect their own
- 15:33Speaker 11: ego integrity. All of this is just a play. It's
- 15:36Speaker 11: a mask that the that the offender wears in order
- 15:39Speaker 11: to prevent the actual feelings. Because if he did feel
- 15:42Speaker 11: any of these things, he would have stood up in court.
- 15:45Speaker 11: He would have pled guilty. He would have accepted the
- 15:47Speaker 11: punishment that he would have given that they were going
- 15:49Speaker 11: to give him. He would have wanted the most punishment, right,
- 15:52Speaker 11: those are the kinds of things that someone who actually
- 15:55Speaker 11: feels guilty does. They don't go around claiming that all
- 15:59Speaker 11: of this is a lie when they know video is
- 16:01Speaker 11: out there and they're certainly not going to do any
- 16:03Speaker 11: of these kinds of videos where they're not actually saying
- 16:07Speaker 11: sorry to the victims that have suffered at his hand.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Joining me right now in addition to an all star
- 16:13Speaker 2: panel is Shannon Henry, president and founder of SAS, which
- 16:17Speaker 2: is Surviving Assault Standing Strong. Shannon, thank you for being
- 16:22Speaker 2: with us. It's amazing to me that nobody noticed or
- 16:28Speaker 2: commented upon Cassie v Interira covered in bruises following the
- 16:33Speaker 2: attack we just witnessed.
- 16:36Speaker 1: But that happens every day, doesn't it, Shannon.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Where battered women go to work, they go to the
- 16:43Speaker 2: grocery store, their friends see them, and unless they're wearing
- 16:46Speaker 2: clothes from neck to wrist to ankle, you see the bruises,
- 16:53Speaker 2: you see the black eye. I mean, how easy is it, apparently,
- 16:58Speaker 2: for everyone to ignore.
- 17:00Speaker 12: Very easy, Nancy, for everyone to ignore it. They're hiding
- 17:04Speaker 12: in plain sight, and unless you know the signs to
- 17:07Speaker 12: look for, you may not notice it. It's why we
- 17:10Speaker 12: train people in hospitals and attorneys and law enforcement to
- 17:15Speaker 12: see it and recognize it and be able to identify
- 17:17Speaker 12: it quickly and get them the support they need. I
- 17:21Speaker 12: do want to mention and go back to doctor Delatory
- 17:23Speaker 12: and what he said, because I think it was so wise.
- 17:27Speaker 12: I also want to say, you can hit rock bottom,
- 17:31Speaker 12: you can be an alcoholic. If Diddy is watching this tonight,
- 17:34Speaker 12: you can do all of those things without being an abuser,
- 17:37Speaker 12: without being a trafficker. Those things can be done. So
- 17:41Speaker 12: while you know his apology is empty to everyone watching,
- 17:45Speaker 12: I hope he understands too that those things don't constitute
- 17:48Speaker 12: the behavior we see.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Let me and Shannon Henry, President founder of Surviving Assault,
- 17:52Speaker 2: Standing Strong. She has dealt with so many battered women,
- 17:58Speaker 2: as have I. Typically, Shannon, I would see them when
- 18:03Speaker 2: the attacks had gotten to a felony level, if they
- 18:07Speaker 2: were still alive.
- 18:08Speaker 1: And I will never forget. I was a rookie da
- 18:11Speaker 1: in a courtroom and.
- 18:13Speaker 2: A woman and her partner, her husband, came in. He
- 18:20Speaker 2: was dragging along behind her, looking guilty.
- 18:23Speaker 1: She had on a hip.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Cast from the hip all the way down to the ankle.
- 18:31Speaker 1: She could hardly walk.
- 18:33Speaker 2: A hard cast, you know, the white cement looking casts
- 18:38Speaker 2: on crutches.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Trying to move forward.
- 18:40Speaker 2: It was the court date for him, and she wanted
- 18:42Speaker 2: to drop charges, and he was right behind her her.
- 18:45Speaker 1: She wants to drop charges.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Of course I did not drop them, and I didn't
- 18:49Speaker 2: blame her. I said, she wants to drop.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Them a hole, but I'm not going to drop them.
- 18:56Speaker 2: A lot of people are curious as to why casts,
- 18:59Speaker 2: even after this horrific beating, then stayed in the room.
- 19:05Speaker 2: And I can tell you that because she's going to
- 19:07Speaker 2: beat her again if she tried to least, she's sneaking
- 19:09Speaker 2: out without shoes on.
- 19:11Speaker 1: You know that when you.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Sneak out of a room without putting your shoes on
- 19:14Speaker 2: because you don't want to make it sound. She was
- 19:17Speaker 2: doing that and then appeared on the red carpet. This
- 19:20Speaker 2: video has just emerged from hotel security. I bet Combs
- 19:26Speaker 2: thought it would never see the light of day. That
- 19:29Speaker 2: video surveillance has emerged. CNN got a hold of it
- 19:34Speaker 2: and now the cat is out of the bag. So
- 19:37Speaker 2: thank you to our friends at CNN. Shannon Henry, what
- 19:39Speaker 2: do you make of it?
- 19:40Speaker 12: Well, there's lots of things that I see in that
- 19:43Speaker 12: number one. He sees her as an object. He throws
- 19:46Speaker 12: her around like an object, he kicks her like an object.
- 19:49Speaker 12: That's what he sees her as. But what we see
- 19:52Speaker 12: in Cassie is that she has learned to be compliant.
- 19:56Speaker 12: When you watch her fall to the ground, she doesn't
- 19:59Speaker 12: scramble to get up. She understands that fighting back could
- 20:02Speaker 12: incite more danger. In this level of danger, the wrong
- 20:07Speaker 12: kick to the wrong area of her body could have
- 20:09Speaker 12: killed her. He didn't care. He was in control. He
- 20:12Speaker 12: took her things, and he treated her like an object.
- 20:16Speaker 12: And that's what we see.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Many people have questioned, and having worked at the Better
- 20:21Speaker 2: Women's Center, I guess a total of nine years at night,
- 20:27Speaker 2: a lot of people wonder, well, why did she stay
- 20:28Speaker 2: with him? If you beat her like that number one?
- 20:31Speaker 2: It's not if he did beat her like that. She
- 20:34Speaker 2: did not instigate that that in no way with self
- 20:37Speaker 2: defense on his part. There are many reasons why she
- 20:42Speaker 2: stayed with him, obviously the threat of more physical violence,
- 20:46Speaker 2: But could you elaborate, Shannon Henry, Well, there's.
- 20:49Speaker 12: Several reasons why women stay, you know, we can look
- 20:53Speaker 12: at a myriad of reasons, from financial reasons, to children,
- 20:57Speaker 12: to the fact that they I love them.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Just because his.
- 21:02Speaker 12: Definition of love and her definition of love are two
- 21:05Speaker 12: totally different things doesn't mean that she doesn't have sincere
- 21:09Speaker 12: feelings for him. Now, what we see in the video
- 21:12Speaker 12: when she does come back, she was more scared of
- 21:15Speaker 12: not going back than she was about, you know, making
- 21:20Speaker 12: sure that she was safe.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Shannon, he could ruin her. He could ruin her, and
- 21:25Speaker 1: she have known her in the industry. She is an
- 21:29Speaker 1: artist herself. She has released one album after the next,
- 21:33Speaker 1: after the next, after the next.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Next, successfully, Long Way to Go, that was one of
- 21:38Speaker 2: her originals. She's got so many kasivn Tiro is a
- 21:43Speaker 2: star in her own right, and Diddy could have destroyed
- 21:46Speaker 2: that for her.
- 21:47Speaker 12: That's right, And when you look at this degree of
- 21:50Speaker 12: violence in this incident, it's hard for people to wrap
- 21:53Speaker 12: their mind around why somebody would stay. But for her,
- 21:57Speaker 12: it's either endure him or wait to be high it
- 22:00Speaker 12: down and destroyed. And that is unendurable. And so it's
- 22:04Speaker 12: a matter of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.
- 22:08Speaker 6: Someone on the inside with Sean Diddy Comb's camp is
- 22:11Speaker 6: telling The Daily Mail the music mogul is in crisis mode,
- 22:14Speaker 6: terrified that more videos of his hidden behavior could become public.
- 22:18Speaker 6: The insider says that Combe's team is also concerned about
- 22:22Speaker 6: footage that may have been recorded at recording studios. The
- 22:25Speaker 6: insider also suggests that CNN may be in discussions with
- 22:29Speaker 6: others who have damaging videos, suggesting there are other videos
- 22:33Speaker 6: that people are holding in a vault right row.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Joining me right now is high profile entertainment lawyer Darryl Cohen,
- 22:42Speaker 2: former felony prosecutor, now name partner with Cohen, Cooper, E
- 22:47Speaker 2: step and Allen. Darryl, thank you for joining us on
- 22:51Speaker 2: your way to court. I really appreciate that.
- 22:53Speaker 1: But Darryl, what could.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Be worse for him right now than to give an
- 22:59Speaker 2: appollo jay which admits you quote did it, but to
- 23:03Speaker 2: give a half hearted fake apology. Wait, Darryl, I don't
- 23:07Speaker 2: know if you've seen it or heard it, but listen
- 23:09Speaker 2: to this.
- 23:13Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but I'm committed to be a better
- 23:18Speaker 3: man usin every day. I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm
- 23:26Speaker 3: truly sorry. It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest
- 23:34Speaker 3: times in your life.
- 23:36Speaker 7: Sometimes you gotta do that.
- 23:39Speaker 8: I was fucked up.
- 23:42Speaker 3: I mean I had robbed bottom, but I make no excuses.
- 23:46Speaker 3: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full
- 23:51Speaker 3: responsibility for my ashes in that video.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Really, because that bating on Cassie Venturor happened in twenty sixteen,
- 24:00Speaker 2: and since that time, Darryl Cohen, he and his lawyer
- 24:03Speaker 2: of Benjamin Broffman, who I actually respect in the courtroom,
- 24:07Speaker 2: have actually denied anything ever happened and claimed the Cassie
- 24:11Speaker 2: Ventira and many other female victims are just quote out
- 24:15Speaker 2: for a payday. He is making himself the victim. He's
- 24:20Speaker 2: in a quote dark place. He's so sorry, rock Bottom.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Those are all empty words because he hasn't done a
- 24:30Speaker 2: damn thing to make up somehow, at least try to
- 24:36Speaker 2: make up for what he did. As a matter of fact,
- 24:39Speaker 2: he reportedly has done the same thing over and over
- 24:42Speaker 2: and over that by far, ain't his first time at
- 24:45Speaker 2: the rodeo Cohen.
- 24:46Speaker 13: So, Nancy, let's just convict him without a trial, without
- 24:49Speaker 13: a jury, without an indictment, without charges. Let's just say
- 24:53Speaker 13: did he he's the bad guy. Look, he has done
- 24:57Speaker 13: some stupid, bad things, but he has owned up to it.
- 25:01Speaker 8: Finally. It took a long time, but he's now owned
- 25:04Speaker 8: up to it.
- 25:05Speaker 13: And he said, I was not a victim of what
- 25:08Speaker 13: happened here. I'm a victim of myself. And for that,
- 25:12Speaker 13: I am asking for you to forgive me, give me
- 25:16Speaker 13: an opportunity to be who I really am.
- 25:20Speaker 8: And then, so we.
- 25:20Speaker 13: Also know that the music business, the music business is
- 25:24Speaker 13: frought with problems.
- 25:25Speaker 8: It's not good. It's just music.
- 25:29Speaker 13: So I am not happy with the video, obviously, and
- 25:33Speaker 13: if you are, you're crazy. But I am happy with
- 25:36Speaker 13: the fact that he has said I was wrong. I
- 25:39Speaker 13: am now going to be a better person. And you
- 25:43Speaker 13: can bet on it.
- 25:44Speaker 2: You can bank it, really you think you can bank it,
- 25:47Speaker 2: because Benjamin Brafman is not going to let his client
- 25:51Speaker 2: admit to anything else. And the only reason Diddy aka
- 25:56Speaker 2: Shawn comes issue that groveling and very fast apology is
- 26:00Speaker 2: because the video came out. He's caught red handed. And wait,
- 26:05Speaker 2: so should I believe you or my lie in eyes? Okay,
- 26:10Speaker 2: because what you said did not happen in that video.
- 26:14Speaker 2: He hasn't owned up to everything he did. And also
- 26:18Speaker 2: you seem to be blaming the music business. Hey, I
- 26:22Speaker 2: haven't seen Dolly Parton being dragging somebody.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Up and down the hallways of a hotel.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I haven't seen her paying out millions of dollars of settlements.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I haven't seen Morgan Wallen out paying off beating victims.
- 26:38Speaker 2: I mean, I can go on and on with this
- 26:40Speaker 2: star and that star. Uh huh, why because.
- 26:42Speaker 1: They didn't do that? He did? He did, And you're
- 26:46Speaker 1: trying to blame the music industry.
- 26:48Speaker 13: No, I'm not trying to blame the music industry. I'm
- 26:51Speaker 13: trying to explain it away as part of unfortunately what
- 26:56Speaker 13: happens in that industry, and it's being cleaned up. But
- 26:59Speaker 13: it's been low to be cleaned up. And he did
- 27:02Speaker 13: give a heartfelt apology. No, he didn't say.
- 27:06Speaker 8: I did this. I did that. I just was I
- 27:09Speaker 8: was wrong. I was wrong, and I am I take harship.
- 27:14Speaker 13: He said it's on me. He didn't blame anyone else.
- 27:17Speaker 13: He said, it's on me. I did it. I am sorry,
- 27:21Speaker 13: and yes, Nancy, he apologized after the video came out.
- 27:24Speaker 13: Can you imagine him apologizing in advance. No, you don't
- 27:28Speaker 13: do that.
- 27:29Speaker 8: You don't give something that.
- 27:31Speaker 2: If you do something wrong, why don't you apologize.
- 27:35Speaker 8: You do want your call because I'm.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Gonna apologize in advance for the dream job I'm about
- 27:42Speaker 2: to do on you, because it's.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Timing, timing, timing.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Dear Old Cohen, you were a prosecutor in the same.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Office as I. I saw you try cases. I know
- 27:55Speaker 1: that you know this is all theater.
- 27:58Speaker 2: That apology came out within what twenty four hours after.
- 28:03Speaker 1: The video came out.
- 28:05Speaker 2: You actually believe in coincidences, dearal Cohen, because I have
- 28:09Speaker 2: heard you myself tell a jury there is no such
- 28:12Speaker 2: thing as coincidences in criminal law.
- 28:15Speaker 1: But now tonight you have a different story.
- 28:18Speaker 13: Amazing, not a different story, Nancy. It's not a coincidence
- 28:22Speaker 13: the video came out. And oh, by the way, that
- 28:24Speaker 13: was eight years ago. So someone is after Ditty for
- 28:28Speaker 13: whatever reason. As soon as he came out instantly, within
- 28:32Speaker 13: twenty four hours, he explained his actions as being wrong.
- 28:36Speaker 8: I have no defense for it.
- 28:38Speaker 13: I'm sorry I did it, and I'm going to be
- 28:40Speaker 13: a better person.
- 28:41Speaker 8: It was my darkest day and let's just see, I'm.
- 28:45Speaker 1: So happy because now you're setting somebody's out to get Diddy.
- 28:51Speaker 1: He's the victim. This is part of a big conspiracy
- 28:55Speaker 1: to get Diddy.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Well, did he better or hunker down because there's going
- 28:59Speaker 2: to be more video and more victims coming out to
- 29:02Speaker 2: speak crime stories with Nancy Grace straight out to Keela
- 29:17Speaker 2: Brantley joining me. Dailymail dot com true not true. Daily Mail,
- 29:23Speaker 2: the biggest online news site in the world, says Diddy
- 29:31Speaker 2: and crisis though, because there are more videos.
- 29:35Speaker 5: Of course, Nancy, I mean, like I said before, if
- 29:38Speaker 5: you abuse once, it's likely you've done it before. Obviously,
- 29:41Speaker 5: they stay at hotels, and there's many instances. There's a
- 29:45Speaker 5: ex girlfriends, not only Cassie, but you have Kimporter. There's
- 29:49Speaker 5: been time and time against several women who have accused
- 29:53Speaker 5: him or people, bodyguards, assistants who have said that this
- 29:56Speaker 5: is very typical for Diddy. So it's no surprise there
- 29:59Speaker 5: that he is in crisis mode. Obviously that apology video
- 30:03Speaker 5: is part of the crisis mode, trying to you know,
- 30:06Speaker 5: smooth things over, which obviously I don't think many people
- 30:09Speaker 5: have fallen for. But also Nancy, I did want to
- 30:12Speaker 5: provide some clarity on as to why he did not
- 30:15Speaker 5: say Cassie's name. TMZ just reported that it's actually part
- 30:20Speaker 5: of the settlement, the undisclosed amount that he settled with
- 30:23Speaker 5: Cassie back in the fall, one day after she sued
- 30:26Speaker 5: him for thirty million dollars. Now, apparently TMZ spoke to
- 30:30Speaker 5: a source who has inside knowledge of the settlement and
- 30:33Speaker 5: that there was a DNA that neither did he nor
- 30:36Speaker 5: Cassie could publicly speak about each other or say each
- 30:39Speaker 5: other's names. So that does provide a little bit of
- 30:43Speaker 5: the clarity about why he did not say Cassie's name directly,
- 30:47Speaker 5: And it completely makes sense as to why people were
- 30:51Speaker 5: up in arms that he didn't apologize directly to Cassie.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Sean Puffy comes ak a didty aka p He did?
- 31:00Speaker 1: He apologizes.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Listen, it's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times
- 31:08Speaker 3: in your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was,
- 31:16Speaker 3: I mean, I had rock bottom. But I make no excuses.
- 31:21Speaker 3: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full
- 31:26Speaker 3: responsibility for my ashes in that.
- 31:28Speaker 2: Video joining me in all star pan Let everybody jump in.
- 31:31Speaker 2: We're not having high tea at Windsor Castle. But hey,
- 31:35Speaker 2: back to you, dear Well Cohen entertainment lawyer, former felony prosecutor.
- 31:39Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if a lot Cosby and
- 31:44Speaker 2: others one of these women that he and his lawyer,
- 31:49Speaker 2: high price lawyer I might have Benjamin Brafman keep.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Saying, Oh, they're all lying, they just want money.
- 31:56Speaker 2: I would be very not surprised if one of them
- 32:00Speaker 2: decides to sue him for defamation.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Remember when Couse we kept saying, they're all lying.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I didn't do that to anybody, drug them and rape them,
- 32:09Speaker 2: Yeah you did.
- 32:11Speaker 1: And then they turn arount and sued him.
- 32:14Speaker 2: After the statute of limitations had run, as in this case,
- 32:18Speaker 2: for defaming them, lying on them in.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Public watch out. Did he hear it comes? What do
- 32:25Speaker 1: you think, Darryl?
- 32:26Speaker 13: I think that we see what we see when and
- 32:29Speaker 13: if it happens. He has not named any one or
- 32:33Speaker 13: two or three or twenty people. He has said I
- 32:36Speaker 13: was wrong. It was my darkest day, and I believe
- 32:39Speaker 13: his apology.
- 32:41Speaker 8: Is it late? Sure? But is it appropriate? Absolutely? Did
- 32:45Speaker 8: he did it? Did he do it after the video
- 32:50Speaker 8: came out? Yes, he did.
- 32:52Speaker 13: That was an appropriate time to do it. And I
- 32:54Speaker 13: think he's right. They're looking now for money if they
- 32:58Speaker 13: wanted him to be prosecut Do.
- 33:00Speaker 2: You think that the abuse victims are looking for money? Okay, hey,
- 33:05Speaker 2: you know what I just noticed under John Delatory, renound
- 33:09Speaker 2: psychologist and mediator, Doctor Delatory, did you see I just
- 33:13Speaker 2: saw it when Cohen was speaking as we were showing
- 33:17Speaker 2: comes speaking on mute. As he's talking, he's shaking his
- 33:21Speaker 2: head No, like when you say yes, I really love
- 33:25Speaker 2: you and you're shaking your head no the whole time.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Doesn't that mean something in your line of business?
- 33:31Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 33:31Speaker 11: Absolutely, because you're looking at how everything is kind of
- 33:34Speaker 11: matching up, how the words match up with body language.
- 33:37Speaker 11: You're used to consistency, right as human beings, that's what
- 33:40Speaker 11: we want, and when we see something that's inconsistent, that
- 33:43Speaker 11: raises our antenna, that puts us in an on guard
- 33:47Speaker 11: position because it makes us think that whatever we're being
- 33:50Speaker 11: told at the time doesn't come across as genuine. Now
- 33:54Speaker 11: maybe he's genuine, maybe he's not, but it certainly doesn't
- 33:57Speaker 11: feel that way when you listen to him and you
- 34:00Speaker 11: watch him speak to you.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Rober Crispin joining US now private investigator, former Federal Task
- 34:05Speaker 2: force for the USDJ Department of Justice. Robert Crispin, You've
- 34:09Speaker 2: seen a lot of defendants, a lot of lion defendants.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed how somehow they make it all
- 34:16Speaker 2: about them, not the actual victim. Somehow the perp turns
- 34:24Speaker 2: out in their mind to be the victim himself.
- 34:28Speaker 1: And that's just what we see Sean comes doing.
- 34:32Speaker 9: I mean, listen, they can't come straight out forward and
- 34:35Speaker 9: say hey, you know, I'm sorry for beating you down
- 34:38Speaker 9: on multiple occasions. They always like to smooth it over
- 34:41Speaker 9: as like you said, they're the victim and I was
- 34:43Speaker 9: in a dark place and it was a bad time
- 34:45Speaker 9: in my life. They never actually address exactly what the
- 34:49Speaker 9: allegations are.
- 34:49Speaker 10: They kind of like give.
- 34:51Speaker 9: You a global apology which is going to incorporate everything
- 34:55Speaker 9: that they've ever done. And I'm shocked that he came
- 34:58Speaker 9: forward with this video because this video did not do
- 35:02Speaker 9: him any justice in light of everything that's pending against him,
- 35:06Speaker 9: the investigation.
- 35:08Speaker 10: How they even allowed him to release this.
- 35:11Speaker 4: Force me Paul Brendan, who was named as Diddy's drug
- 35:14Speaker 4: mule in Rodney Jones lawsuit has taken a plea deal
- 35:17Speaker 4: to dismiss the cocaine possession charge against him. Brendan was
- 35:21Speaker 4: arrested at Miami's Appolloca Airport while traveling with Combs the
- 35:24Speaker 4: day the rappers homes were rated. The Miami Dade State
- 35:27Speaker 4: Attorney's Office has said the drug diversion program Brendan must
- 35:30Speaker 4: complete is a standard deal offered to nonviolent defendants with
- 35:34Speaker 4: no prior arrests.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Are the desperate rats finally jumping ship rather they go
- 35:43Speaker 2: down with the ship? The rats are taking deals, Nancy.
- 35:48Speaker 13: That's my old office from before, the DA's office in Fulver,
- 35:51Speaker 13: And they offered him a deal because he was a
- 35:55Speaker 13: small time, one time only OTO person rested with a
- 36:00Speaker 13: small amount of cocaine.
- 36:02Speaker 8: Not a big deal. It's only a big deal if
- 36:06Speaker 8: you put it together.
- 36:07Speaker 1: You took a plea.
- 36:08Speaker 2: So what I'm not saying he's a good person or
- 36:11Speaker 2: a bad person. What I'm saying is he was on
- 36:14Speaker 2: the inside of Combs's circle. And if he takes a
- 36:17Speaker 2: sweetheart deal, you don't think the state's gonna want testimony
- 36:21Speaker 2: and exchange for a.
- 36:23Speaker 1: Light please sentence, Because I do.
- 36:26Speaker 2: There's no way I take a deal on this guy
- 36:28Speaker 2: unless he would tell me everything he knows about Combs
- 36:32Speaker 2: under oath on video sitting on a stack of bibles.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm also wondering. And to you, KILEB.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Brantley joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot com, another Diddy associate,
- 36:47Speaker 2: Combs associate says he saw Combs be not only Cassie Ventura,
- 36:54Speaker 2: but kim Porter, the mother of some of comes children.
- 37:00Speaker 2: What do you know about that?
- 37:01Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy. This was his former bodyguard who said that
- 37:05Speaker 5: he did witness violence and that Cassie is not the
- 37:09Speaker 5: only victim. He did mention kim Porter. And obviously there's
- 37:14Speaker 5: a history here. And because he has so many people
- 37:16Speaker 5: around him, so many such a big team, there are
- 37:20Speaker 5: people who have witnessed this and it's only a matter
- 37:22Speaker 5: of time before they come forward and they give testimony,
- 37:26Speaker 5: and time will tell.
- 37:27Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds. And to you, Sean Combs,
- 37:35Speaker 2: it's never too late to do the right thing. We
- 37:39Speaker 2: stop and remember American hero Deputy Marshall Barry Jigligo shot
- 37:45Speaker 2: and killed in the line of duty Louisiana. Survived by
- 37:51Speaker 2: loving fiance Pat and son Joseph, American hero Barry Jigligoh.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Thank you to all of our guests from being with
- 38:01Speaker 2: us tonight, but a special thank you to everyone joining
- 38:06Speaker 2: us in seeking justice, justice for those those people that
- 38:12Speaker 2: somehow cannot speak for themselves. Nancy Gray signing off, good
- 38:18Speaker 2: night friend,