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Why Bears Are Primed To Bounce Back At Falcons + Montez Sweat Fallout · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Wendy city podcast presented by fan side that you know that man is Alex Shapiro, you know, I'm kind of Davis, but we're going back to some under center stuff right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, our go to man down in Georgia, Atlanta, the great dearlendo led better of Botos sports is joining us right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Orlando.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm doing great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of thanks for having me on the show today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see you in Alex again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's always our pleasure, the time you joined us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you knew how much we laughed after you got off and whatever you said, and it just wouldn't be us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be our producers, it would be always that great times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're happy that you come back and you just actually some of our old producers will send us stuff that you will be doing and be like, the Orlando's doing this or the Orlando's still saying that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you definitely made an impression on us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got big fans, you got big fans in Chicago here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's good to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me and hopefully we can entertain them again here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We definitely, we definitely will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have an article on former Falcon, but recently, I bear over the last couple of seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: York thoughts on Grady Jerry's transition here in Chicago last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of banged up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen the Grady Jerry from maybe five years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what are your thoughts on Grady Jerry now and perhaps what he can do to the Falcons and help the Bears if the Bears can defeat the Falcons this Sunday in Atlanta?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He will be highly motivated, uh, you all know the story, uh, fifth round pick out of Rockdale County High, just suburban Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so he's coming home, uh, and a performing front of his, uh, folk family and friends that'll be a.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty pretty big group of that here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was the whole just of it at the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, hey, how much do we pay him on the Falcons?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's getting older.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a second contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that couldn't come up with a number and you ended up getting released and signed him right away with Agent Talk, France, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't even talked with sitter bears, but he kind of went that kind of quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, once you get over 30,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The interior ball is pretty tough, but he certainly will be highly motivated, you know, to go up against his old teammates, Chris Lynch from Matthew Burgeron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this would be the week and the week he kind of got to step up with Montez getting suspended too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'm sure they'll try to keep him fresh with the rotation and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just, that's one of the guys you hope the best for, you know, he might be declining, but nobody's going to say it out loud because they like him so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, Chicago, y'all probably won't carry out a lot of no right away, but that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that'll be, that
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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the pro bow two time pro bowlers and you know it might be at the end of his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You covered him a long time in Atlanta and he's such a charismatic guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember his introductory press conference in Chicago just he captivated that room and right away we could tell like
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy is just very funny, very down to earth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the production hasn't mastered it, but right away thinking like, man, if this guy could produce even a little bit bare fans are gonna fall in love with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a particular moment or story from covering Grady Jarrett?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That sticks with you that you remember, finally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually the first day, their health card will fire
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... you know he just got drafted and so the Falcos had to help them get situated uh... after the fire got turned out to be right away you know you were you know you were room for this guy because it had been so tough for him uh... zero star recruit out of high school uh... went to climps and made himself a football player
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, he's struggling right there with that and then, you know, in the Super Bowl, there's rookie year, you like, you know, he had about three or four sacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was beaten old Georgia, Shack Mason up early on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what happened, but he was on the list of being in BP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If that had not got away from him, but from right then, you had a good bond with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Lewis was a, you know, kind of Sarah get uncle for him and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, you knew you have Falcon lineage and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were well liked and well respected family and, you know, you kind of rooted from the beginning because it's a total underdog story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, of course, there's been this DT swap where the bears have great Jared, but now a Jervon Dexter is in that land of Falcon, and it seems like it's been a better fit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't followed it super, super closely, but it seems like the Falcons are getting more out of Jervon Dexter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like lead the league of pressures this up the right now for the DT position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Much better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he got the big contract right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for bear's fans who have not
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[SPEAKER_02]: Followed up with Jervon Dexter, can you let us know how his time as a Falcon is going as he flourishing down there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, he is, you know, there are number one defensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do have Brandon Dorales and Mason Smith, two guys that would draft it in the second and the fourth rounds, but Garván has clearly somebody that ain't cutting him knew a lot about he had drafted him with the bears and didn't have to give up much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Clark Phillips and Thur, we'll watch him the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: up there in the draft pick, so they were able to get somebody that, I don't know if the bears were not going to sign them or didn't have enough money to get it done, but you got to play her in a pick, and the Falcons got had to get stout her on the defensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They let David all you might have leave in free agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got in a little older.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you get younger and you got a bigger guy, you know, six, six, three, 20 I think, or three, or three, he's big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got somebody big displaced in the middle of your run defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe keep those guards off of your landbackers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so far, he's been able to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing any stunts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're any reading or any two gaping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, get up the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get up the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was real simple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that making sounds simple to us, but he's doing great job of that thus far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wasn't pressure in the QB enough to what they kind of felt he should be doing here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So good for him, even though for us, it feels like some Chicago type messes far as all the bears in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go back to Grady, but not really Grady.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go to that Atlanta offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even more when you win over the way to Washington, but we all know that he's injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the rib injury looks like he's going to play What part of that offensive line is susceptible to penetration particularly since it has to be a stout line because it has to one Keep him up right, but also you have probably the best running back in the league It'd be John Robbs and how should the bears attack the Atlanta offensive line the Orlando
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the week links, that's what we're going to call it, would be the right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joanne Taylor came up from Kansas City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't been glaring, but he hasn't been jumping off sides either, so having been hearing his name, but Jake Matthews, the left tackle is coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He played last week, coming back from a growing surgeon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jake's been a good pro over 200 starts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of probo's, he don't get beat,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you don't talk about him like Jonathan Augustin or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's where you start at and then if nothing's happening there, the guards are stout, Matthew Burzeron and Chris Lynch from Chris Lynch from being an all-pro, two-time
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[SPEAKER_00]: first team or second team, you know, all pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think three years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and Burjuron just got paid too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the center is didn't the another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Ryan Newsau, Undrafted Guy, out of Appalachian State has kind of been self-made.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were okay with giving him the center spot when Drew Dalman came up there last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and he did a pretty good job last year in run blocking, not so much in past protection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... that's that that's the line that's it's all that's on run blocking line they're going to try to cut your knees out and let beach on get loose and then when it's time to rest the pasture you met at him for cut your knees out maybe you can't get there so that's how you see how that unfolds uh... sometimes weekly real quick sticking with center where you surprised that you don't want to retire this early-z did after spending one season here in Chicago
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was because, you know, Stanford, you know, he knew his dad, but he was always a thoughtful guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he didn't like talking to us too much, but, you know, he would give us audible answers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for really cerebral player, you know, Stanford guy, I thought once he got there and got a taste of winning that, you know, I saw him at the, the, off the
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[SPEAKER_00]: flag football thing out in San Francisco and talk to him had no inkland that he was getting ready to retire and so for so I thought he was going to play another four or five more years and You know Help the bears get a reestablish as a power in the national football league
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[SPEAKER_02]: want to bring back to the quarterback just because the Falcons are two different teams when Michael Penex is under center and what Michael Penex is not under center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it has it has been truly like opposite ends of the spectrum other than the obvious Michael Penex is a better quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is what is he doing or what does he unlock in the offense was when he's in there compared to to or somebody else that it is such such a huge difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he can make all the throws to you know all across the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it gets to what you could kind of come up and play to dump offs and check downs and you know to show it around because he can't really drive the ball down the field as well as he did in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... you know i did have try rekill running behind everybody so that you know we don't really have that here but uh... that's a big thing is like hey he's thrown to the middle of the field that got him under center they're marion the play action with the past running off a beach on so it all starts with beach on
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, if he's got a shot down in the field, he's taking a couple of last couple of weeks to go to a John Dodson who can get behind you a little bit and they've skimmed it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were Drake learning, everything's not a jump ball anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're finding Drake in space on top of vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you kind of got to figure out, okay, we got to stop Bajan and we got to cover Drake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, your plan is like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can count kids beat me, you know, kind of on the side of it, beat me, kind of, you can't let the other guys beat you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you take them to a way, you can't let pits, Austin Hooper, Jaha'an Datsu, Alameday, the kids, you know, all the other guys, you know, that's what you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want them, you know, counting on throwing it to Hooper on third down and six or something, but if you let Drake and Bishon be up and they'll take that all day, and that's what they did in the two games at one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: cow pits, it always seemed like either they weren't using him properly in past regimes or and they didn't find a way to unlock him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thoughts of well cow pits is right now to what we all believe when he was coming out of college and we thought he was going to revolutionize the tight imposition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really buy that, but hey, you know, they were selling it, and uh, you know, the highest traveling time in and so that rookie year, Matt Ryan knew how to get in the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just threw him nine routes up the sideline, he got in the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd have to do too much work there, and he was getting close to Dick's record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For a rookie, I was like, well, you're gonna still count this as a record when you play 17 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They only play 14 back then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got mad at me for that, but I was like, no, Dick has got the record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how many yards you get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't get it in 14 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't get the record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he came up shorting with so but yeah, that was that was how he started starting with Matt Ryan didn't they had all this quarterback stuff Last year because he knew how to use him once he got in there Got him pay basically Through him enough balls to where they were like okay, maybe he's coming now, right and so
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they franchise tagged them and thought about it, you know, and then gave them an extension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that, you know, he hasn't been utilized that much in the new offense has been an, you know, an actual consternation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the pecking order is clear, be John Drake, then Kyle, but Kyle hasn't, you know, been able to, you know, get involved as much in the first five games of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you mentioned my dica your thoughts on bears legendary player and hit coach passing recently when it comes to my dica.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just you know, I kind of there, you know, I spent some time up in the state nor for there covering the packers, so you know, well, well, steeped in the rivalry in the history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the problems you all had at quarterback until now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, just, you know, a sad day for football, he was a football player straight out of Pittsburgh, you know, uh, came to league and play football and even winning coaches football coach, you know, the rookie train was, you know, bad, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, giving out the fruits of ball was, you know, not a good deal, but he would undo a lot of good things for the veterans, where there's a cigar events at the Super Bowl him and Jaws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the man's heart was in the right place, but yeah, and I like the one story that Jim Nans talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How he would get five or you'd get $100 bills every weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It went through New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just blessed the whole community for the whole football season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that shows you what type of heart he had in addition to being a little gruff tight in football, start and coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now speaking of the Falcons had coach Kevin Stephanski is first year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the reception been?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you know, in Cleveland he won the two coach of the year awards, but then the Browns never had any success.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He couldn't get things going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was kind of run out of town, despite those coach of the year awards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just wondering early on this first season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the reception been for Kevin Stephanski?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been a kind of standoffish because, you know, the folks booed him after it's his first game here when they lost 34 to three to to Carolina, you know, the first game was on the road at Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, go on the road and do these, you know, beat the heck out of the packers and the Saints to come home everybody's ready to embrace him and then they blow a game in Falcon style with the league eight minutes to
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[SPEAKER_00]: got to eight point Lee with two thirty go to some people like when he's we're there winning he's two-time coach of the year right and when they lose he's the on coach out of factory assadance from Cleveland so uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm using that factory as sad as for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that, I'm using that forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is definitely the definition of what being a brown spher is probably business to 80s for our mayoral leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I factory of sadness to say to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a kid that made that video on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can Google it's not my original.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's well known in the Cleveland circles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, we come here every Sunday looking for hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a factory of sadness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, you mentioned the bear's quarterback situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we were fortunate enough to end up with Caleb Williams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew you were here for the Civil War that took place, but we don't have to get into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But your thoughts on Caleb and what Ben Johnson has done in this year and going in the five games so far, looking in from the outside because you know that Chicago has been perplexed when it comes to trying to solve the quarterback situation, but also having a legit offensive play car also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's done a great job of raining in that physical talent that clay Caleb so obviously has and has relied upon up to this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got him on schedule on some stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like early on how they're using cleave raven as the I'ma Ross and Brown guy on the crossers and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: While the young receivers learn their way, burden and a room, a doomsday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Eddie's leaning on that running game to Calvin Nungai and Swift from Drown, you know, went to Georgia down here there last thousand yard back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I really just see a mirror image of Detroit and how he did it up there, but he doesn't have a generic gift type of back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's putting that back thing, you know, back committee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Colleeps from here, greater than a Christian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, good story, you know, how he made his way to the NFL and so forth and he's got been he's got the weapons He knows how to deploy him and he's on score a bunch of points and you know Caleb when he does get flustered and and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, stars running around and doing crazy stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it works out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the one in the playoffs last year, that was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So um, but if they can keep him on time and throw, you know, throwing guys open and to spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the sky is a little 50 nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there were going to keep that going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now that he's back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he even had case key them looking really special there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the one game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So so Ben is doing a great job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now this is a great part of football season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's got five um, tapes on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're going to start to fix stuff away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got see how they counter if they can counter or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or if they can flip that wheel and keep doing what they want to do, that's the good part about the NFL now because they don't practice in the regular and the exhibition season and so far for not so much tackling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now when people get four or five games or you're like, okay, I know the guys are going to see the plays they're going to watch all the tape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by this game in the sixth, seventh, eighth game in the middle of the season you start seeing stuff that was working or people that were wide open all of a sudden people are showing up at the ball now so that's going to be his challenge moving forward is going to have to counter some of the things that people are going to try to take away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were no compensatory draft picks awarded to the bears for the Falcons hiring in Cunningham, because he is under Matt Ryan, the president of football operations for the Falcons, even though Ian Cunningham was hired to be the GM.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just curious from someone who is entrenched in the Falcons and has covered this organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How does this all shake out?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where is Ian Cunningham really in this pecking order?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it fair that the bears didn't get complex or is it truly Matt Ryan's run in the show and and he's once again under Matt Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the structure they chose, which was, you know, Falco's doing things a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, Matt Ryan is basically the liaison to the owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here, the coaches you have to go see with the owner on Monday and Tuesday go over stuff and, you know, Sean Payton told me this at the combat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, hey, I think this is going work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt's can go explain stuff to him be a buffer between Ian and the coaches, make sure that the coaches are talking to the general managers about what type of players they want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you make them, you know, you make a marriage that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've been kind of doing this, um, whole coalition building thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it really hasn't worked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It worked for them when they got Smith and the mid-truff in need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They never knew each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Artists Smith and Terry Fartner never knew each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So same thing, at least Ryan posed and Matt Ryan are best buddies and they know Ian.
21:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So now Ian comes in and explains to him what they need and you know, coast defense, he's kind of the outsider here.
21:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's got to, they kind of got to marry each other, you know, together now.
21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And he had to keep the defense coordinator.
21:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, I thought the bear should have got the pick, but you know, they did clearly say Matt Ryan is the final decision maker.
22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: and in and it's a system GM.
22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what that's how the league looks at it.
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I got two questions one going with Ian Cunningham being there.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a joke for like the past four or five years that the Falcons are bare south because you have the barest former general manager Ryan Pace in the front office also.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: House Bill thank you and Phil Emory how sick are land fans of getting bears left over front office beach.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I think a pace probably because they're making a lot of Nelson, but everyone was here for a while and, you know, interesting former, former bears guy and then a pace didn't really, we didn't really get to talk to him.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He was Terry Fartner's guy.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They were down in New Orleans together.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they take care of each other.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, in the end, cutting him, they look at him as a disciple of Ozzy in the ego.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Then, time there.
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he was just there with the bears long enough to help get things going with Orion.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I know the story I wrote when he got the job was I was talking to Ozzy and how he started out with the Ravens in that 30-30 program.
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of but he's coming from the Bayer so and but it's he's coming out a good time as opposed to the other two The Mitsubrisky try is gonna follow pace to his death
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and I feel good, you know, he was a military guy, good guy, but I like to feel him or so.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that's, that's the situation.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming from a bear's team that went to the playoffs.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Falkers haven't been to the playoffs since 2017.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So he kind of comes with some cachet as opposed to, you know, saying, oh, we got the bears, uh, you know, left over this time.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did Ryan Pays bring Eddie Goldman over again?
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is Ryan Pays bringing his Eddie Goldman guy over?
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was one of his moves.
24:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Been out of bar for two years, and they found a phone for me.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Last one, your expectations for this game Sunday down in Mercedes, Benz, and Elena, and why do you have those expectations?
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's going to win?
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to be perhaps the school, but please break that down before you get out of here, Orlando?
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, with the bears coming off of that 31 to 7 loss and bears meaning the rivalry game that, you know, he's got their attention right now and you're getting a quarterback back.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking this is a playoff team against a wannabe playoff team.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm trending.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: that the bears have come down here and put their foot down, especially after, you know, they're what happened last week.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Falkers are still trying to find their way.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They can score points with Michael Pinnick's in the game, but the defense didn't close it out last week and they're gonna be over matched on the outside.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They're corner backs, they're down two corner backs, AJ Terrell is CJ Henderson, and so they're gonna have to play A-B-On Terrell, AJ's little brother,
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And Michael Hughes, who's their second corner.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So the receiver's gonna be open and we know, okay, let's get on the ball.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking that the Falcons gonna be in a little trouble there on Sunday, with the Bears, maybe put in a 31, maybe not seven.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll give them 17, 31, 17 on Sunday at the Mercedes-Benz state.
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, our friends look up on us.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Our friends look at that man.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate that one or that one.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, Botox Sports, you've watched Under Center, you've seen him, forget us, you've seen him, all over national stuff in the past.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Dear Linda, let it be, we always appreciate you joining us.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We look forward to talking to you down the line, man.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Be safe about it.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, no problem, Keenan Alex, thanks for having me.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You all take care and enjoy the rest of the season.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, too.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, thanks, dear Lindo, again, for joining us.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But we got to talk about some shop about some things happening here in Chicago.
26:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we went into the Montes wet P.D.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: suspension for two games, and how that can affect his contract, but also perhaps what the bears can do moving forward.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Montes wet his base that you've been the player that he wasn't Washington, which is a player that is above average, but is not necessarily record game record, right?
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I was a consistency, but I don't even need to say consistency.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a game record.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So the question is right now looking at sports track, the 12.7 remaining due to his
26:47
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it makes no sense for the bears.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless this is on them using that money to go get a better pass, pressure, and whatever.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I mean now, it's was talking about prior to coming back on.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, and Alex bring up a good point as far as the record of the team I'm about to mention, but they did still want to trade this player.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I think now when you think about the bears trying to do something to get Max Crozby, now you know I don't like giving up first round picks.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it makes more sense now because the issue would have been having, and we've talked about this, having Max Crosby, making that amount of salary, and having Montes wet, who also makes it.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that becomes a lot of issues we haven't both for them, but what you could do now with just a 12 million that a month as sweat has is you can release a next year and your top defensive line of getting paid can be maxed across for bigger influence and more hustle and you still have
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Supposedly a guy that was in the Max Crosby vein, but right now playing pretty well in Austin Booker as a guy on the other side and then perhaps you can still now try to go out and get another big beeline and through the draft or get the tackle that we've been looking for, but really, and it's, it's just the truth for them out amongst us, what hasn't done with the bears need and it's kind of giving them a gift in a way.
28:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Sir, and the PD's I mean, I'm sure they've made been just for recovery.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They were not doing what they needed to be doing we need to.
28:16
[SPEAKER_02]: When you think PD's you think a sack of game.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: To be fair, he was noticeable pressures, but like pressures don't get you paid unless you're dying more.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the point, not to the point where the league is like, well, guys, I'm about to say something clearly I'm wrong.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Not to the point where the league is like, yo, we need to have you had to take a pre-test, but clearly the league was like, we need to have a take a pre-test in the past.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, still listen.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes sense right now.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: to go ahead and do whatever you need to do.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I want, I think the best you people for the remainder of the season is what I'm saying.
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You should use the fact that you still have a quality edge pressure in him, a dependable guy, but you need a difference maker, and this may be the time to see, hey, we don't have to pay him 21 million next year.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go out and use that salary on a bona fide, a game record, or at least somebody who has been close to it recently and perhaps some ex-crosby UFO sounds.
29:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just to underline what Kenneth was explaining earlier, this is according to SpotRack, which is a website that we use all the time to track contract details.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty much SpotRack and over the cap are the two spots that people really use to track all these details.
29:29
[SPEAKER_02]: According to SpotRack, this PED suspension voids
29:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Voids the guarantees that are on Montessweats deal.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is, it's kind of like a get on a contract free card.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when we talk about cutting players, the first thing that comes out of our mouths is always dead money.
29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the dead money associated with it.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's how much money they've freed up.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if all of his guarantees are avoided,
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: My understanding is, hey, they're ain't no dead money.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so cool.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: They can't really just get out of the contract.
30:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, like he's been solid.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't if I think you explained it perfectly.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been good.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been good.
30:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been noticeable.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been getting pressures.
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been getting sacks as well.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But he has not been the full on game changer that, you know, that he was the first half season.
30:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when he came here right after the trade, he was a difference maker.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a game record.
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a game changer.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a force multiplier.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We have not seen that level of play for some time.
30:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so if if you do want to pivot and and try and chase that force multiplier because as you said you feel good about book or you feel good about dialed angle you feel good about you know the other pass rushers this gives you that opportunity to do that great great great jazz money's about to come off that was a thousand three you did was really a two year do
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So that gives step freeze up a decent amount of cash one throughout the team.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, hypothetical, let's just say this, let's just say you try for a nice defensive player, right?
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You can swing this year's draft and go all, you go mostly defense if you want to, and you can still use some of that money on the offense with Caleb getting close to where he's going to have to get paid.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So it really, it really benefits you.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But also Alex, it's something across my mind, and I want to get your thoughts on this.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: In some ways, I think this is unfair to the players.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: that that money becomes unsecured and I'll tell you why.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there is a double standard when it comes to football players using steroids.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's the truth.
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that, and I know it's because the numbers are so prestigious when it comes to baseball, while there's more blowback to baseball players using steroids or whatever.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in football, stores have been looking at some ways as just it kind of comes with
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: playing this kind of sport.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that with that kind of context of steroids, and again, I could be wrong, but with that context, how are you then going to say that a player who months as well already got his money?
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not forget, he has another year on his deal.
32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, again, he could be taking steroids because he wants to get to the next contract, but also he could take steroids to maintain himself and to a certain degree.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: There are reasons why you take serious.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: As you mentioned, like if it's part of recovery or rehab, like he was banged up, you know, he was banged up.
32:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He was not 100% last year.
32:24
[SPEAKER_02]: He was playing hurt last year.
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So if it's helping from that standpoint,
32:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it does not feel quite as good, right?
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Because these guys, I don't agree with your characterization that like this is just a part of the game and baseball numbers are sacred.
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are some, you know, we were just talking about Diorlando with records and I'm talking about how Piz wouldn't get the record because Mike Dick had did an 14 games.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, that was games though.
32:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking about, I know.
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the length of the schedule is changed from 16 to 17 when Mike Dick played it with 14.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but we still, we still numbers and stats and records.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think are hallowed in the NFL and, you know, play a role in determining greatness, but what I think is fair is baseball players.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: the toll that the game takes on their body is nowhere near the toll that football takes on these players' bodies.
33:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So especially when we're thinking about like, let's be honest, the NFL's gonna have 18 games soon, you know, like we're staring down the barrel of an 18 game season and there's only one by week.
33:34
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, this is more, does the NFL need to be better jobs?
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to need to be two by weeks and like say goodbye to the preseason, you know, that's going to be down to two games.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure so so from that standpoint, I'm like I can understand that, you know, this is a growing sport that takes an unbelievable toll on your body.
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And if this is what you got to do, I'm not condoning it.
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not condoning it.
34:01
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's what we're not that's not what we're doing.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just trying to have a great conversation.
34:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, saying it's okay.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want kids out there doing stuff, but we're just saying that when it comes to football, there seems to be an acceptability aspect and when it comes to baseball.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know that either.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I push back.
34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I push back guys and pop first to her to get.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a, no, because who, what type, look, you know what Antonio Gates got popped.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember hearing, um, I think like Shannon Sharp, and I think more of it is players that play that position, particularly players that you people may think you are a contemporary or may have surpassed, may be saying something, but my pushback to you is like, I feel like, for instance, they're baseball players that we pretty much have an inkling took steroids
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and they're still kind of like, I don't know about that one, right, and some of these players may play fast strokes.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but the point that I'm trying to make is, I don't think to the same degree, do we look at, like, call a frame running backs, right, and try to be like, man, do you think he was worrying about like, I'm there's not the same type of, that's that doesn't happen, but we don't, because we don't want that to feel like, like, like, I could go up as a couple of random people like, man, like, yeah, I won't got came back from ACL surgery in like three months.
35:20
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hear you.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I hear what you say.
35:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's also a baseball.
35:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It was such a steroids area.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, right, you just like, all right, how far can we really hit a baseball.
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And the numbers.
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so lopsided, but yeah, that's crazy.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, baseball is the crazy.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You had to put my hand on the same thing.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like someone still doesn't go, but you had to be there.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's the bare bones when we're still the wildest one to see.
35:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's also Jason Jerry stealing an MVP from the big hurt.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We're having a good time right now.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm going to say that you stole it.
35:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Always go ahead.
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I always I always think he should get that back.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I always felt like he should own it.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think most people believe Frank Thomas would we know a Frank Thomas would look like taking steroids.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been crazy.
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Frank Thomas looked like Frank Thomas in high school.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but also if you just if you even think about the fact of before he started getting, Frank Thomas had a regular baseball decline.
36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me let the King Riffy.
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: right and it kind of agitated me being a griffy guy that wasn't that I was more a griffy than bonds but to see what bonds were put in take the stories out just physically keeping his body in shape the way that he did compared to griffy having his front side and his back side and look like an egg and it was like bro could you please just do some bent some sit-ups or something like what are you doing junior griffy whatever and that's me sitting on my couch telling the whole of fame with that but still like if you think about how
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: steroids, mixed with very bonds with his eye, let alone everything he could do with his head, right, that speed or whatever.
36:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And you think about Frank Thomas with his eye before, like by the time the light socks won, the world series, he was just turning on everything.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like forget, I'm not, I don't have the, the hand, the hand out coordination is, I'd speed to really be the guy that can be as judicious with how I used to be with the walks or whatever now.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Frank Thomas, those lashes was just power.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like you, yeah.
37:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know what I can like because it was I'm carrying I'm turning I'm turning it so and then so apply that to my friend was still the guy that would be low strikeouts high walk within what he would have been able to do again.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going for our over from the Montes wet situation which again the bears are in a
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: the bears are in an advantage to situation.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wanted to us to talk both sides of it, because then it wouldn't be what I feel like we try to do if we just make it with.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They can get out of it, but also to a certain degree when you think about football and kind of this kind of get out of jail free car for the teams.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: When the teams know kind of having ink and the guys may be doing stuff.
37:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's been, we talked about it a little bit before.
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: There has been smoke around collume back because the charges are just imploding.
38:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this makes that a lot more possible.
38:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes a lot more real.
38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, if you're a bear's fan, you want Max Cross be on your team.
38:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You're rooting for the charges to lose every game.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Three and two right now, you know, they the way I be thinking the exact what I say you would from Khalil then you said your room for the charges lose every day I'm sorry.
38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: You're really yes.
38:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
38:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
38:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You're rooting for the Raiders to lose every game, you know You don't want them to be three and two four and two five and two.
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You want them to be three and five three and six So that they're like all right.
38:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time to build around Fernando Mendoza this season's a wrap
38:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, you know, I think there are probably going to be calls to teens that are not doing well, not doing well as you're too to see if they can bolster up that defensive line.
38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get out of here, the Orlando was talking about the return of the iceman.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any inkling you were talking about some Twitter type of stuff with Caleb Williams, perhaps, being ready to return this weekend in the Atlanta?
39:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't seen,
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Williams has changed his Instagram profile picture to John Wick, and I believe the new Instagram bio is I am inevitable.
39:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So on that alone, I'm kind of with Doorland to let better.
39:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the bears, this is going to be a big, big getback game that falcons unfortunate scheduling moment for them, right?
39:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I running into it and the worst, the best part, again, and I mentioned this this weekend.
39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That grin that Caleb had when I was kind of like, yeah, Ben, I know you thank you all of that, but you need this boy right here.
39:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a grin that was like, shouldn't they flow in the way we flow?
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: If I was out there doing what I can do?
39:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're missing all the open guys.
39:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tall.
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for our gotta come back in.
39:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, do you have any extra points before we get out of here?
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Bears winning what you have for the score.
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna ride with the Orlando Ledbetter.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's our guide.
40:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the score.
40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Two touchdowns feels good.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: 31 17.
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're gonna get into 20 because they got this due in the backfield.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got Brian Robinson to this also.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the recent numbers.
40:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But they always kind of do without gear.
40:19
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy that's the backup with because you can get do so many different things with B. John in the passing game to where I don't know with the bears.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of got dinged up, and then the game kind of got away from the Eagles.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, Peach and Robinson is something.
40:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they can get to 20, 20.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they can get to 21.
40:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But I definitely have the Bears getting to 27 to 31 points this game.
40:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely have the Bears winning.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We said before that this could have been a trap game, but then if Caleb was coming back, it wouldn't even been a trap game, because Caleb was going to cry to come and show and prove and do what he's going to do coming back.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have the bear, all three of us,
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[SPEAKER_01]: after the Bears victory in Mercedes-Benz stadium to celebrate to toast coming off of last year's but last week's rather buking by the Packers in Lambo Field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We again appreciate the Orlando led better for joining us for Alex Shapiro and Kenneth Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Winni City podcast for a fan side.