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DNA Upgrades, Light Codes & Consciousness: Reclaiming Your Inner Knowing with Helen Müller · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: Hey everyone,
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  it's Catherine Crestani with another episode of Willow Healing
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  Matters and today I
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  SPEAKER_02: am joined by the beautiful Helen Muller.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is a DNA upgrade specialist and integrative life coach.
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  Helen finds what's blocking you,
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  clears it and teaches you how to maintain that shift.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is the founder of You,
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  SPEAKER_02: Me and Happiness and encourages everyone to find true inner fulfillment.
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  Her definition of happiness is knowing who and what we are and
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  living from that
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  SPEAKER_02: knowing it's our natural state.
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  SPEAKER_02: So a big welcome to the show, Helen.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for that beautiful introduction and I'm happy to be here.
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  So straight away the question that pops into my head,
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  what is a DNA integrative specialist?
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  SPEAKER_02: What does that even mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well,
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  SPEAKER_03: as you're also an energy healer,
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  SPEAKER_03: DNA upgrade is an energy healing method,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: if I can put it in a simple way.
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  So because we're working with energy and it's a communication
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  tool as well.
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  So I don't know if you know about light codes and your audience
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  might know about
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  SPEAKER_03: this as well,
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  but it's like I believe we live in a virtual reality and I
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  believe that the whole
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  SPEAKER_03: universe is made up of information.
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  SPEAKER_03: So some of this information is codes,
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  SPEAKER_03: light codes,
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  SPEAKER_03: and it comes from other dimensions or other planets or other species.
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  and when it comes to the DNA upgrade is I channel that
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  information and then I
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  influence how your DNA is expressed based on that information
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  and that's pretty
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  much what it is so it's the expression it's like an upgrade of
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  the DNA because a
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  lot of people live from just kind of the reactive mind you know
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  like how they get
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  reacted every day which goes through the central nervous system
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  and that releases
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  SPEAKER_03: the
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  Chemicals into the bloodstream and then that makes people act
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  out but a lot of our
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  genes are like you know not really harnessed in the best way
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  that they can be
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  harnessed so this information when you do the DNA upgrade is
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  coming from another
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  dimension and then it expresses the good genes I like to call
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  it the divine
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  SPEAKER_01: blueprint that's what I call it yeah yeah yeah
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  yeah and I feel when I work with the DNA often I'll see it so I
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  kind of see the
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  helix strands like multiple of them there's more than what we
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  think there is you
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  know and I see I'll see them all there and then we have that
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  junk DNA right junk
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  DNA which actually isn't junk DNA at all that's a lot of where
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  your galactic
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  SPEAKER_02: information stored where you're in
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  like a lot of your psychic gifts are in there all those sorts
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  of things but then
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  there's also the gene expressions that come on that shouldn't
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  and those that
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  because of the stress state like you said and then there's
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  those ones that turn off
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  SPEAKER_02: that really should be lit up as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of see it like a Christmas tree.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's how I describe it.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just say that again.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you see it like it turns on and off.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'll see.
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  So for me,
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  when I see it,
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  if it's something that shouldn't be lit up,
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  it'll go red.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I need to play with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if it's something that needs to be activated, it will flash.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's how I get shown it through my team.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's...
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  So interesting I've never actually had this conversation with
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  anybody that actually
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  SPEAKER_03: knows what's going on in the body
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  SPEAKER_03: But how I see it, I can see the light codes.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I can see the codes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then it's like a two-step.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, the actual DNA upgrade.
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  SPEAKER_03: The energy healing that I do, we can still get to that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of a two-step process.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the first step is not the DNA upgrade.
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  SPEAKER_03: The second step is the DNA upgrade.
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  But when I do the DNA upgrade,
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  I can,
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  like,
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  feel where they are stuck,
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  you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the first part is releasing that blocks.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I do it with colors.
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  Same Also Oh you do Right Interesting yeah And then And then
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  the information Just
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  comes you know The information just comes And I just It's so
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  like outside of myself
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  It's so you know When you have to talk about it It's different
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  When you're in it
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  It's like it's not me I just kind of do it But yeah Then I just
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  see the information
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  And it comes And it goes to the person And they experience Like
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  many times There's
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  SPEAKER_03: overlapping things That we both experience Things that we see
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  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes entities come in, many times, you know, entities come in.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it's every single, this is what I love about doing it, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Because every single session is different.
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  It's like we're taking a little travel pack,
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  and I love traveling,
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  and we're going on a trip.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know where we're going, but this is going to be an adventure.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it because it's never...
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  it's never really the same what we get exactly that's why I
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  love it too and even if
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  it's similar it's never exactly the same and then I also love
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  that sometimes you'll
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  you'll learn something or learn do something new and then the
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  next five clients
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  SPEAKER_02: need that as well
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  so it's like oh okay all right this is this new thing all right
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  trust and but
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  that's I guess that's when we we step aside Helen and we allow
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  ourselves to become
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  the conduit where just we just sit there and allow that
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  whatever needs to come
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  through to come through rather than feeling like we need to
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  control what's
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  SPEAKER_03: happening yes that's what makes it quite easy isn't it to do it
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  because it's you know it's not really you know like you can't
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  interfere like I
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  can't really interfere in that yeah so I quite enjoy that as
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  well if somebody was
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  asking me the other day somebody's asking me the other day said
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  oh this must be so
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  draining and I was like no it's not they're all draining you
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  know I don't even yeah
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  I never even think about it it's never I feel really energized
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  afterwards I feel
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  SPEAKER_03: really I get also some you know
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, upgrade out of it, I'm sure.
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  Sometimes I'll get really hungry if it's like I find if I've
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  been doing a lot of
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  SPEAKER_02: work up,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: like as a lot of high frequency work.
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  then I'll just need to eat something very grounding like I want
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  a really hot piece
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  of dark chocolate or sometimes I just want a burger and chips
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  because I'm like I
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  just need something to anchor my frequency back down because
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  I'm currently up here
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  and no amount of grounding I actually need to physically eat
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  something so it's
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  SPEAKER_02: really interesting just having those different processes but I'm with you
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  it doesn't feel draining when I started it was a little bit
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  draining because it was
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  like learning how to hold the container and hold the space and
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  I feel because we're
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  upgrading at the same time that it can be a bit tiring but then
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  after that I was
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  like no I love doing this I love it you know it's not not as
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  draining as that sort
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  of thing anymore but a question that keeps popping in my head
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  is how did you come
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  about it like how did you fall into this line of work and where
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  did that come from
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: well,
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  SPEAKER_03: I was in the coaching because of,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I wrote the book,
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  SPEAKER_03: You,
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  SPEAKER_03: Me and Happiness.
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  And then I got into digital marketing and working with
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  entrepreneurs and all that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I was selling this digital product.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I started doing the coaching.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it was kind of an, I was just always interested in all of this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then I,
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  SPEAKER_03: around 2018,
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  SPEAKER_03: it was,
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  SPEAKER_03: I believe,
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  SPEAKER_03: I went traveling in Europe and I started experiencing more
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  Interesting phenomenon I saw my first alien ship and during
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  daylight I saw a few
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  more in the night and I mean I just had loads of stuff
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  happening I just loved it I
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  mean I wrote down this like science stuff once for a couple of
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  days you know this
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  download of stuff and I mean I was just it was a great time and
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  whilst I was
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  SPEAKER_03: traveling in Europe you know and
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  Then I came to Portugal and I was living in the countryside and
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  COVID just hit And
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it was just before that No,
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  SPEAKER_03: it already started in Spain,
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  now that I remember It already started in Spain So it was
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  during that time when I
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  was traveling When I started just intuitively doing this thing
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  with myself
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  SPEAKER_03: Which was the upgrade, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Which was the DNA upgrade.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just intuitively started doing this.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I have the weirdest way of doing it on myself.
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  I've tried to do it on myself as I do it on other people,
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  but it just doesn't work the same.
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  SPEAKER_03: I kind of get distracted with myself.
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  But I have a different way,
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  the original way that I was doing with myself.
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  very strange I do it on a Lindsey Stirling song it's just the
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  weirdest thing but
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  anyway so I started doing this on myself and I was like whoa
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  you know what is this
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  and then I had all these downloads and communications and all
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  things about it and
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  then when COVID hit when I started also having this one night I
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  was like it was in
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  Spain as well and I was something told me go out on the on the
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  balcony on the deck
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  SPEAKER_03: and I went, somebody kept telling me, go out that night.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I went out and the moon was like shining like that.
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  And I was just looking in the moon and all of a sudden I
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  started,
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  I could see the codes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I can still do it now.
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  SPEAKER_03: I could see the codes coming down into my eye.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like a stream of stuff coming down.
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  So it was this whole download of codes that I could see
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  physically with my eyes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that happened as well.
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  And then COVID and then I don't even know how,
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  you know,
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  it's one of those strange things.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just started doing it.
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  I just had the first person and I said,
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  well,
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  I'm going to do this thing on you.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, honestly, I can't put it together now, like exactly.
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  And then people had this miraculous things happening to them
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  after one session.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like, wow, it's taking a chance here, you know, kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then
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  you know I just I just kept doing it and then I pretty much I
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  can I say like I call
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  it a DNA upgrade but I never knew nobody ever did it on me
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  except for you know that
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  the way I yeah you know kind of intuitively started doing it on
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  me nobody really
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  ever taught me how to do it and I just did it the first time in
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  some way and then I
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  SPEAKER_03: started developing the method
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  and then I have my method of how I do it and the method hasn't
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  really changed much
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  now I added a different element to it where we can talk about
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  it it's also energy
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  healing but it's different and then I do the dinner upgrade it
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  has changed somewhat
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  but it evolves as you evolve yeah yeah and I guess that's I
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  love that just all
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  these random events just happened to you but it was yeah and
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  it's often when we
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  SPEAKER_02: when we start to see
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  I find when I start when I started seeing the spaceships and
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  things that's when
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  it's like oh you're open to this galactic information now
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  you're open to these
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  downloads or you're open to these sorts of things and it is
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  like you said you just
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  go you do do it differently on yourself than you do from other
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  people and I agree
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  like how I work with other people I do to get distracted when I
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  do it on myself so
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  SPEAKER_03: I agree with you
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I try to talk to myself like I talk to them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And before I know it, I'm like, I'm thinking something.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, this is not working.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just leave it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just do your own way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like just do your original way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess this is why you just trust your intuition.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of a new thing that I started,
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  but I find it also very helpful for people because in the DNA
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  upgrade part,
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  SPEAKER_03: they don't do anything really,
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  SPEAKER_03: right?
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  SPEAKER_03: They just relax.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's nice in that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's very physically, you know, they feel it so strongly, but I
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  Have found that it's useful when I can teach people how to feel
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  themselves,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: rather than me just doing everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: So in the first part,
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  we connect to memories or life events in this lifetime up to
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  the womb where we
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  SPEAKER_03: connect to things.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's also an intuitive process, but I take them to
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  some things that happen and it comes up intuitively based on
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  what we're working on
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  and then we also release it but they're more involved in that
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  step so even though
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  in a way I mean I can't say one thing is stronger than the
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  other but you know the
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  the power of energy work right as compared to say traditional
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  therapy and talk
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  SPEAKER_03: therapy and all that but for I found for clients
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  For them having some more kind of integrative experience with
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  it and then feeling
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  SPEAKER_03: what they feel in their bodies more,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: in a less hypnotic state than the DNA upgrade is good for them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I think psychologically that helps them a lot as well thinking,
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  SPEAKER_03: okay,
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  SPEAKER_03: I did release it now.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, like I can feel it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was there and I felt what it felt like in my body maybe.
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  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it's not super intense.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just a little pre...
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  Well I feel too they need to release stuff so that you can you
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  know because energy
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  isn't created or destroyed so you need to release some energy
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  to make way for the
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  new energy to come in when you do the DNA upgrade so it's
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  almost like you're
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  creating space on the shelf so it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah so
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  it needs to be
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  SPEAKER_02: shifted so you can do that
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  And so I know too that you're passionate about people staying
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  connected with
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  SPEAKER_02: themselves in an AI driven world.
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  SPEAKER_02: I feel like we're like mirrors.
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  So being from a background and like having digital products and
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  that sort of thing,
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  what have you noticed that shift of people's regulation and
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  also the people coming
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  SPEAKER_02: forward to you?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm connecting with you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it's a big challenge.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm for the positive evolution of artificial intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not against it at all.
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  But I have noticed even in myself and also in other people,
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  it's causing so much stress.
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  SPEAKER_03: People are not realizing how much stress it's caused.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, you need to be aware to...
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  SPEAKER_03: Understand how much it's putting on the central nervous system.
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  SPEAKER_03: People have become very disconnected,
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  SPEAKER_03: in my opinion,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I can see how it's impacting their nervous systems.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I've been doing a lot of work on that now,
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  focusing a lot on that nervous system regulation because it's
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  just so much
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  SPEAKER_03: overwhelm.
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  So I think the first step that people need to take is just to
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  stay aware of what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think you've got to be really careful if you don't,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I've said this even before AI really started becoming big,
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  SPEAKER_03: I said that if we do not find,
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  SPEAKER_03: I actually have a video like that on my Instagram,
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  if we do not find ways to make ourselves more efficient within
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  the system,
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  SPEAKER_03: artificial intelligence will become a problem for us in the future.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I find it's very important that people look after this,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: like learning about these DNA upgrades,
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  staying in tune with what's happening inside themselves more so
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  now because of the
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  SPEAKER_03: distraction.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what I think.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a big distraction.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_02: I found too,
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  SPEAKER_02: it's funny because I talk about this as well,
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  but I found too that people start to take it at face value and
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  rely on it.
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  you know and I'm I'm all for it like for time saving I use it
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  to do my SEOs my show
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  notes all those sorts of things because it's just really quick
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  at doing it but
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  sometimes it gets it wrong and this is where if you blindly
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  rely on it then this is
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  where it can become an issue as well because you're not using
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  your discernment
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  anymore you're not trusting your intuition and someone shared
• 17:04
  with me this really
• 17:05
  great example it's not my example but I use it a lot it's like
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  when you go to leave
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  SPEAKER_02: the house
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  and you have this gut instinct to go grab an umbrella right and
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  instead of just
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  grabbing the umbrella and listening to that instinct you pull
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  up the app the
• 17:19
  weather app on your phone and it's like oh it's gonna be bright
• 17:22
  and shiny today and
• 17:24
  you know don't worry about it it's gonna be sunny and two hours
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  later it starts
• 17:27
  pouring down rain you're discounted your own intuition in that
• 17:31
  moment and relied on
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  SPEAKER_02: technology instead and this is where
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  our soul actually knows way more than a phone and if you
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  actually just learn to
• 17:39
  listen to what's going on the inside then you'll just find that
• 17:43
  you just know
• 17:44
  things that you you shouldn't even really know but you do your
• 17:48
  soul knows it's
• 17:48
  going to rain today or not it knows what you should wear today
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  or not you know and
• 17:52
  when you start to really connect back in AI can't do that it
• 17:56
  can or technology you
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: know it can tell you what it thinks will happen but
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  your soul kind of already knows too and that's a whole other
• 18:05
  podcast I think with
• 18:05
  timelines and things like that but yeah yeah it's so it's true
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  what you said but
• 18:10
  there's so many elements to it you know is it people are very
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  sensitive if you you
• 18:16
  know if you say something negative about it I don't know if
• 18:18
  you've noticed that
• 18:19
  there's a lot of people that's also sensitive if you say
• 18:21
  something negative about
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  it which I do understand because you're not you know it's not
• 18:26
  like you do we don't
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't want it to develop or anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: We want things to stay like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not about that.
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  It's just,
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  as you say,
• 18:37
  if you don't have that discernment anymore,
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  which is such a fine line.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've actually recently deleted my social media apps from my phone.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: Same.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have any on my phone.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: Which I'm so happy about.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Because I started really noticing the kind of content that
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  you know it's just so like it wasn't you know I just didn't
• 19:01
  enjoy what I was seeing
• 19:03
  there and I was like okay this is not feeling good to me I know
• 19:06
  I'm not I'm
• 19:07
  distracted for no reason here like in the sense of it's not
• 19:10
  really contributing
• 19:11
  anything positively to my life and I I was in Mexico for a
• 19:15
  couple of months last
• 19:16
  year and whilst I was there I was in a very you know
• 19:21
  interactive community and I
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: was almost never on my phone.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: It was fantastic.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: I was still doing my work and everything,
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: but I was just barely using my phone for anything,
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: not even uploading a picture on social media or anything like that.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I was feeling so great.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, you know what?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is going to go.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need that.
• 19:47
  yeah when I got a new phone I didn't put anything on it I just
• 19:51
  put like my
• 19:52
  essentials like just I have my email and I have like a few
• 19:56
  essential apps like if I
• 19:58
  have to book a client and I've got that you know like that sort
• 20:01
  of thing but I
• 20:03
  didn't put anything on it I've got a second phone which is my
• 20:06
  work phone and that
• 20:07
  has like whatsapp on it and it has all the meta stuff on it not
• 20:11
  facebook because I
• 20:12
  got banned on facebook but it's got the other things on it yeah
• 20:15
  that's another
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: story
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: Why did you go back?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why did I get banned?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: I told some truths during that time.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: During the jabby jabby stage.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, during that stage.
• 20:32
  And I find it really helpful because it's almost like a
• 20:35
  physical separation as well.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't have it on there.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:40
  I've noticed too that it doesn't my I don't have a lot of
• 20:44
  things that used to
• 20:45
  happen you know like you talk about something or think about
• 20:48
  something near your
• 20:49
  phone and it doesn't it used to suddenly appear on your feed so
• 20:53
  that doesn't happen
• 20:54
  anymore since I don't have it on my phone but that's that's
• 20:57
  just an interesting
• 20:58
  thing that I noticed so this is where you know having that
• 21:02
  physical boundary has
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: been really
• 21:04
  Powerful for me and also you know I don't get sucked into doom
• 21:08
  scrolling because my
• 21:09
  my work phone's so old and clunky to use it's just annoying
• 21:13
  like I just go on there
• 21:15
  and double check if I've got a message or not and then I get
• 21:18
  back off and then so
• 21:19
  it's just like you said it's when you when you have a reason to
• 21:23
  connect with things
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: around you you don't turn to technology as much you know you you
• 21:28
  our natural state is wanting to be around people but if
• 21:31
  everyone around you is on
• 21:32
  their phone then you feel like you need to be on your phone too
• 21:35
  so this is where
• 21:36
  putting yourself in powerful circles can make a big difference
• 21:39
  too yeah and also
• 21:40
  with things changing so much you know you need to stay
• 21:43
  connected to yourself it's
• 21:44
  so important now I feel it's vital like you're gonna be lost
• 21:48
  and that's what's
• 21:49
  happening is people becoming so lost and it's yeah you gotta do
• 21:54
  what you can to
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: keep yourself in a good
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: in a good energetic state to attract good things, isn't it?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: I have a question that just popped in my head about light codes.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: So do you see light codes around,
• 22:07
  so I see them sometimes around trees and around living objects
• 22:11
  and things like
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: that.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Do you find it just,
• 22:14
  it's on all the time now or do you find it just comes and goes
• 22:17
  depending on the
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: moon or what we're doing energetically as a planet?
• 22:21
  No,
• 22:21
  I don't really tune into it except for when it's a session or
• 22:25
  when it's the moon.
• 22:26
  Like when the moon is just automatic I can't like not see it I
• 22:31
  went outside last
• 22:32
  night I was like okay I used to actually do it consciously You
• 22:35
  know to do the
• 22:35
  channeling Which I should because I do feel the impact But yeah
• 22:41
  no I don't see I
• 22:42
  don't see it Only during the sessions When I'm in that state I
• 22:45
  don't naturally see
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: it I probably could if I focus on it But I've never done that now Yeah
• 22:53
  I was like because I just had this image of you walking around
• 22:55
  and everyone's
• 22:56
  covered in codes like the matrix yeah I probably could don't
• 23:01
  put that in my head
• 23:02
  because you know my head's like a sponge when it starts
• 23:04
  whatever you put in there
• 23:05
  it was funny I was speaking to my friend this morning because
• 23:08
  I'm in Europe now and
• 23:10
  I'm anyways and you know how people are like saying this
• 23:14
  Europe's collapsing and I
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: mean everyone everywhere's collapsing isn't it yeah so
• 23:20
  the fear narrative yeah if you literally if you go in on
• 23:23
  YouTube and you put in
• 23:24
  there USA collapsing you will find a million videos Europe is
• 23:29
  collapsing you know
• 23:31
  Asia everybody everywhere is collapsing Australia is collapsing
• 23:34
  so I always say
• 23:36
  I've always said this and I have to come back to it I really
• 23:38
  have to push pull
• 23:39
  myself into it you gotta live in a magic world it's the only
• 23:43
  way you gotta make a
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: magic world for yourself and it's not being ignorant it's
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: But I do find it works like you gotta make a magic world because I mean,
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_03: you obviously also believe in your parallel universes,
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: right?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: And your, you know, your parallel selves.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: So you really probably, you know, you really can do that.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_03: You can put yourself in those realities.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: On my other podcasts that I co-host called Connections from Beyond,
• 24:12
  we actually did a whole episode on alternative realities
• 24:15
  because your soul is
• 24:17
  greedy and wants to experience everything so there's multiple
• 24:22
  versions so every
• 24:22
  time you make a decision another branch comes off another
• 24:25
  branch comes off so it's
• 24:27
  really fascinating when you start to unpack that all but also
• 24:31
  I've had a lot of
• 24:32
  clients where the timelines compete because they don't kind of
• 24:36
  shut off properly or
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: they interfere with their current timeline so it's really interesting to
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: how all that comes into play as well.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: But,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: it is a magic world,
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: and I just sometimes I just sit there and I'm like,
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: wow,
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: this is this is amazing.
• 24:53
  And then you go to the flip side of that and I say,
• 24:56
  you know,
• 24:57
  I can't make this up.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then I had a guest on just last week and she said,
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: but you did make it up because it's your narrative.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: You're creating this world.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: So you did make it up.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, that is a bit magical, right?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking to a client last week and I said, okay, it's the movie.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's like tuning your radio.
• 25:19
  If something doesn't work or it hasn't been working,
• 25:23
  you keep replaying that.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's so silly to think about it.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: You keep putting that movie on,
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: but if you want your life to change to a new movie,
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: a different life,
• 25:35
  you literally gotta get out of you know that that characters
• 25:38
  can't be in this movie
• 25:40
  you know this is a different movie we want to keep putting our
• 25:44
  old characters into
• 25:45
  our new movie but they don't you know they can't play the parts
• 25:48
  they don't belong
• 25:49
  there or put the old song the old soundtrack into the new movie
• 25:53
  but it doesn't go
• 25:54
  together you know no so yeah that's it that's interesting yeah
• 25:59
  I like that analogy
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: that's a good one I like that I might borrow that thank you Helen
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: And as we start to finish our time together,
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Helen,
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: I ask the guests that come on the show,
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: if you could heal or change something in the world,
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: what would it be?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: And being a healer,
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: this might sound strange what I'm going to say now,
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: but for people to not wanting to,
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:24
  heal the world or help the world as much and know that it's the
• 26:29
  only way we can
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: change the world is to change ourselves.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, it's
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's not selfish to do that,
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: but to really see,
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: look at our decisions that we make on a day to day.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: And even if it's something small,
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: it's to improve,
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: something rather than getting,
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: being so involved in what's going on in the world or,
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: what can I do for other,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: in the sense of how can I always help other people?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like improve my, if I improve myself in whatever little way I can,
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: Every day,
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: consciously,
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_03: even if it's just how we eat,
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: like something like that can already make such a big impact.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: So yes, I would say that would be what I would say today.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's perfect for today.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: And if people are curious about what you do,
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: Helen,
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: I want to come and work with you or come and find your book.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: Where are the best places they can come and connect and find you?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: You can find me on my website or through my website.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: All my contact information is there and it's you, me and happiness.com.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: So all written out.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: Starts with you.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: I just said it starts you, me and happiness.com.
• 27:53
  dot com and I am on social I'm on social media as you me and
• 27:59
  happiness everywhere
• 28:00
  so on LinkedIn on Instagram and Facebook yeah beautiful and
• 28:07
  I'll make sure to put
• 28:08
  all those links and details in the show notes as well so for
• 28:11
  everyone listening if
• 28:12
  you're curious about DNA or energy shifts or just want to know
• 28:18
  what's blocking you
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: in your life then please go check out Helen's work and also
• 28:23
  her book and if you enjoyed this episode please feel free to
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• 28:30
  notes and Helen
• 28:32
  thank you so much for this conversation and sharing a bit about
• 28:35
  what you're doing I
• 28:36
  love that I got to talk about DNA with you yay thank you
• 28:40
  Catherine I appreciate you
• 28:42
  hey beautiful souls I wanted to have a chat with you about a
• 28:45
  really amazing
• 28:47
  Cacao that I drink to help me get in ceremony to help me ground
• 28:51
  but also just
• 28:52
  because it tastes freaking good so if you're curious and want
• 28:55
  to know about
• 28:56
  drinking something other than coffee or your standard tea why
• 29:00
  not check out
• 29:01
  Creation Cacao I love this with a bit of honey and cinnamon
• 29:05
  sprinkled in and just
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: letting it brew and having that whole intention as you create this cup
• 29:12
  So if you're curious about want to know more,
• 29:14
  check out the link in the show notes and enjoy.
• 29:18
  your cup of cacao thank you for listening to Willow Healing
• 29:21
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• 29:22
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• 29:25
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• 29:26
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• 29:30
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• 29:32
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• 29:35
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• 29:35
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• 29:39
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