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A Pop Culture Heir · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Let's you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Hey guys, an extra special pop culture minisode for you. Today,
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  Speaker 3: we've got Teddy Mellencamp, daughter of John Mellencamp. We heard
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  Speaker 3: her dad's reference a few weeks ago in season six,
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  Speaker 3: episode thirteen Friday Nights all Right for Fighting, when Luke
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  Speaker 3: and Laurel I awkwardly bump into each.
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  Speaker 4: Other in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: So we have to talk to her about it. See
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  Speaker 3: if she knows of this mention about her dad. Let's
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  Speaker 3: get her on.
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  Speaker 4: Hi guys, Hey Teddy, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome?
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  Speaker 5: Hi Teddy, Hi, so good to see everybody.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome to our mandness. Oh look how professional?
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  Speaker 1: Yo?
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  Speaker 6: Get that?
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  Speaker 4: I have one of those and it's too bright. I
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  Speaker 4: can't have it in my office. I got to figure
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  Speaker 4: out a way to use mine.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the chaos this morning with four kids
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  Speaker 2: needing to be out the door at nine ten. But
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I love Gilmore Girls so much.
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  Speaker 5: I have a couple of minutes to zip in.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much, thank you. When did you
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  Speaker 4: first discover Gilmore Girls?
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  Speaker 2: I discovered Gilmore Girls during the pandemic. My daughter had actually,
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  Speaker 2: right before the pandemic, she had amputated the tip of
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  Speaker 2: her finger, which sounds like a very like traumatic story.
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  Speaker 2: But there was very few shows that we could watch
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  Speaker 2: together and really, you know, like all it didn't seem
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  Speaker 2: too mature for her, but it also was mature enough
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  Speaker 2: that it opened up so many good conversations for us,
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  Speaker 2: and so like, I'm not kidding, we I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: couldn't have watched more episodes are healing?
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  Speaker 4: How old was she at the time?
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  Speaker 5: She was ten?
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, did.
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  Speaker 6: You get to the episode where your dad is mentioned?
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  Speaker 2: I did, But now once you guys texted me, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I remember being excited when I heard it,
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  Speaker 2: but now you guys have to refresh my memory.
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  Speaker 7: We will, but I just think that would be so
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  Speaker 7: so when they mentioned, you know, Mark Ballast from Dancing
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  Speaker 7: with the Stars. Yes, so there's a moment where his
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  Speaker 7: parents are mentioned, same exact thing, and we like kind
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  Speaker 7: of lost our minds and immediately called him and got
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  Speaker 7: him on, Like, I wonder what would be more weird
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  Speaker 7: of you being mentioned in pop culture or your parents,
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  Speaker 7: because that's.
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  Speaker 6: Sort of more iconic. You're like, my dad just got
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  Speaker 6: a shout out.
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure I'll never get a shout
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  Speaker 2: out on a show like Gilmour Girls, so they'll be
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  Speaker 2: like and then that really crazy housewife that.
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  Speaker 5: Caused a lot of problems. But no, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also like, you know, I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful thing about music, as it will bring you back
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  Speaker 2: to a memory no matter where you are in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can barely remember anything I learned in school,
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  Speaker 2: but I can remember the words to like ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: of the songs that I learned in grade school and
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  Speaker 2: high school, you know, throughout my life. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: you just retain those that information in those.
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  Speaker 1: Liar, you sure do?
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  Speaker 8: You sure do.
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  Speaker 4: The other day, I was watching Caream reunion videos Eric
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  Speaker 4: Clapton and Ginger Baker in two thousand and five they
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  Speaker 4: went Royal Albert Hall and did played all those great songs,
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  Speaker 4: and I was just like flooded with memoris. It was
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  Speaker 4: just bizarre. It's all of this old waves of emotion
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  Speaker 4: coming just from that music. It's amazing how it triggers it,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can you find that emotion immediately,
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  Speaker 2: how you felt in that moment when you first heard it,
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  Speaker 2: or like that relationship you were in during it, or
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like every time I even hear like Casey
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  Speaker 2: and Jojo, I'm like, oh, that was my song with
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  Speaker 2: my boyfriend in the tenth grade. If I would have
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  Speaker 2: actually listened to what those words.
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  Speaker 5: Meant or said, it's so inappropriate.
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  Speaker 7: It's so funny you say that because we'll read you
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  Speaker 7: the line about your dad, but it refers to hurt
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  Speaker 7: so good. But when we immediately, when we're talking about it,
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  Speaker 7: you literally all you have to say is little ditty,
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  Speaker 7: and all of us knew exactly what we were talking about,
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  Speaker 7: Like Scott was immediately laughing, and we're all like, oh
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  Speaker 7: my god, like two words from your dad's song, and
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  Speaker 7: every single one of us knew exactly what we were
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  Speaker 7: talking about.
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  Speaker 5: And it's pretty cool. There's a couple of those like
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  Speaker 5: it little Ditty, Chili Dog. Yeah, Yeah, it's so good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the most Banana's part is that
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  Speaker 2: after you hear something like little Ditty or any of that,
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  Speaker 2: is then you go and you watch the music video
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  Speaker 2: and I watch sit with my kids because at this
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  Speaker 2: point I realized they've never seen it, and it's my
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  Speaker 2: mom and dad, Like my mom and dad are.
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  Speaker 9: Jack and Diane so crazy?
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  Speaker 4: I want to depart too much from what we're doing here.
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  Speaker 4: Did you go on tour with him back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: I did, but I was so young that, like I bear,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like I knew, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And also I didn't grow up in La.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't an La kid, so it wasn't like there
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  Speaker 2: was like this element of fame and paparazzi's chasing you down.
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  Speaker 2: Like I just thought, like the same way that like
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  Speaker 2: my friend's dad was an accountant and went to his
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  Speaker 2: office every day, this was my dad's office.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The only time where it really like hit me in
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  Speaker 2: a different kind of way was you know, still to
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  Speaker 2: this day, when I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus comes
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  Speaker 2: on and I see my like seven year old self
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  Speaker 2: like trying to shake the tambourine in the video, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how do I I can remember all the
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  Speaker 2: songs to everything, but I don't remember that moment. I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember feeling like I was filming a music video.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was just our life.
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  Speaker 4: And did your dad have a recording studio on the property?
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  Speaker 4: Is that where they recorded the songs, so they go
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  Speaker 4: to LA or New York and record.
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  Speaker 2: No, he never went to LA in New York. No,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was born in a small town.
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  Speaker 5: He still lives in that same small town, no he.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you have to also.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when I was born, was before his birth, Like
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  Speaker 2: his first hit was nineteen eighty one, which is the
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  Speaker 2: year I was born. So I mean we could say
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  Speaker 2: that I was his you know, mus not just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: The differences and where you know, we lived, what like
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  Speaker 2: how our life progressed in the eighties was huge. But
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  Speaker 2: he always and still does has the same recording studio
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  Speaker 2: which is also his office, which is it's called like
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  Speaker 2: a Belmont, which is in like this near Seymour, Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like forty minutes from the house. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean I think it still looks exactly the same as
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  Speaker 2: the way it did back then.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, tell me once, like that you were when
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  Speaker 9: you were born, you were in like a small house
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  Speaker 9: in the town or like kind of an average house,
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  Speaker 9: and then suddenly you.
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  Speaker 6: Lived in the biggest house in town.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like it was all my pictures from you know,
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  Speaker 2: being a little kid.
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  Speaker 5: It like a baby.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we I still drive by this house to
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  Speaker 2: get to my dad's house, and it is like you barely.
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  Speaker 5: Even can see it. It's off in the corner, like
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  Speaker 5: kind of in the woods.
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  Speaker 2: Like I all I really remember about that house is
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  Speaker 2: that there was to get down to it, you had
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  Speaker 2: to go down a really steep drive and then like
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  Speaker 2: there was a piano in the middle, and then there
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  Speaker 2: was like steep stairs and that was like the basement,
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  Speaker 2: like just it. That's really my only memory and then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden all my other like childhood photos.
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  Speaker 5: We live in a house that like will never be
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  Speaker 5: able to be sold.
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  Speaker 2: In Bloomington, Indiana because a is going to buy it.
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  Speaker 2: Were their little pink houses, but we painted the pink
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  Speaker 2: house in that music video.
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  Speaker 5: We went and painted the pink houses. But that's Seymour
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  Speaker 5: where my dad grew up, which is you know Seymour
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  Speaker 5: as of ours. That so Bloomington is like where IU is.
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  Speaker 2: So people kind of know Bloomington now because that that
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  Speaker 2: college is so in lack of a better word, like
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  Speaker 2: everybody knows that college because of sports and fun and
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  Speaker 2: like people love going to school there.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, one of my producers on Two Teas.
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  Speaker 2: And Indiana and so and we all know that, but
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  Speaker 2: Seymour is about forty five minutes outside of Bloomington, And
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  Speaker 2: I mean that is the epitio. Like the biggest shopping
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  Speaker 2: center is like a J. C. Penney and like it
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  Speaker 2: is small.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: I was just about to say, you think like it's
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  Speaker 7: random that you're from Indiana, But in our small group
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  Speaker 7: of people that all work together, you're from Indiana. Our
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  Speaker 7: producer Kendall and Ben Higgins from the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 6: Is also from Indiana. So Indiana represents.
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  Speaker 8: Indiana represents Wait will you read to the line, Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: read the line it's so Laura I says it hurts
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  Speaker 8: so good as mister Mellencamp said, is it bleeding?
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what happened right before? Somebody?
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  Speaker 10: Right before they Luke and Laurel I just bump into.
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  Speaker 1: Each other's right acting from Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean because that line, taking out of context, souths.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like it's not really family friendly.
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  Speaker 5: But I I'll just talk about that being a family
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  Speaker 5: friendly show.
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  Speaker 10: Wait, Teddy, I have a question though. So we were
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  Speaker 10: watching this episode the scene that Rory says that her
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  Speaker 10: dad is hot, like, soay was like, oh, I have
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  Speaker 10: a hot Yeah. If someone says to you like, oh
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  Speaker 10: my god, like your dad's so hot, or I have
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  Speaker 10: a crush on your dad. Does it make you cringe?
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  Speaker 6: Or are you like, oh do it all the time?
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  Speaker 6: To Teddy, she doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you have to also remember my dad's dated a
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  Speaker 2: lot of my friends at this point, so like I
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  Speaker 2: have gotten pretty calloused when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think, I mean, I don't know, Like just.
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  Speaker 2: You have to understand my dad is the kind of
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  Speaker 2: guy that it's like he's always like, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of think of him and he's like reserved, pulled
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  Speaker 2: back and you know, like mister cool guy. But like
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  Speaker 2: when the grandkids are there for the holidays, like he's
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  Speaker 2: the one that's like gonna come in his like dorky
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  Speaker 2: tidy whities and like jump in the pool with his
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  Speaker 2: socks on, and like he's just always as much as
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  Speaker 2: he is reserved in an introvert, he's always an entertainer,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's your family or whatever. Like he knows how
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  Speaker 2: to bring the excitement and make you feel special, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's his music or his paintings, or his relationship with
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  Speaker 2: his grandkids or texting me all in caps when I
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  Speaker 2: tell him that's yelling and it hurts.
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  Speaker 7: I told I love when I text Teddy pe Pauw's
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  Speaker 7: looking good and she just sends the barf emojis. Like
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  Speaker 7: I told the story how people like on a breakfast
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  Speaker 7: morning near around Christmas is like like all dress like
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  Speaker 7: he's got his like cool vibe. He just always has
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  Speaker 7: that cool I'm John Mellencamp, I'm a rock star.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you only wear three outfits, it's like pretty easy,
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  Speaker 2: Like he really.
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  Speaker 5: Just And now I realized it. I'm like, have I
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  Speaker 5: married my husband? Like my husband?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you wear the same thing all of the time,
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  Speaker 2: and yet you act I should be surprised.
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  Speaker 5: Do you do that as well?
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  Speaker 7: Now I have a question before you go, how does
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  Speaker 7: your dad feel that you often refer to him and
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  Speaker 7: I think call him the koogs.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm probably one of the only people that
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  Speaker 2: could get away with it. And I didn't even think
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  Speaker 2: of it really myself. But when I started in California.
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  Speaker 2: When I first came to California, my parents were like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to not go to college and go
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  Speaker 2: to California at seventeen, you're on your own, babe, Like,
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  Speaker 2: we'll help you get your car out there. But then
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  Speaker 2: like figure it out. So I worked in the mailroom
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  Speaker 2: at CIA, and everybody, you know, everybody are like these
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  Speaker 2: you know, they graduate from Harvard.
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  Speaker 5: They're just you know, like super smart.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like the seventeen year old kid, like just
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  Speaker 2: trying to like hustle around and figure it out, shucking
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  Speaker 2: mail and you know, doing the ice cream cart. And
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  Speaker 2: everybody started coining me as because I have very similar man,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have the most you know, that dainty flower
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  Speaker 2: of a walk, those types of things.
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  Speaker 5: So everybody would always be like, You're like little cogs,
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  Speaker 5: little caugs, little coogs.
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  Speaker 2: So then I started calling him the Coogs. And like
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  Speaker 2: for his whatever his last I'm gonna probably stay wrong,
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  Speaker 2: was it sixty to seventieth.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever his last big birthday was.
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  Speaker 2: I just wrote everywhere it was Koogs, like happy birthday
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  Speaker 2: to the Coogs.
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  Speaker 5: And he walked in.
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  Speaker 11: He was like, goddamn it, teddy Teddy Joe not Alick
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  Speaker 11: wouldn't call him that, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Gilmore Girls has changed so many lives for so
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  Speaker 2: many people, And the same way that a little ditty
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  Speaker 2: brings people together to a memory is your show. And
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  Speaker 2: I hope that you feel so incredible and knowing that
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  Speaker 2: because I know, even for him, sometimes talking about the
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  Speaker 2: past or talking about things in your life can feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: like I hate watching myself or I hate doing this,
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  Speaker 2: or I you know, but you've changed so many of
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  Speaker 2: our lives.
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  Speaker 1: You've just described the existential situation I find myself in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the times when I'm like, right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, god, man, John Cougar, that's so fanboying over that.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, I'll do a comic con or something,
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  Speaker 4: and I realized, wait a minute, I kind I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I'm on their level, but I kind
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  Speaker 4: of achieved similar. You know that the brand that the
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  Speaker 4: Gilmour Girls is out there and the world has been
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  Speaker 4: out there for twenty three years, and it's affecting people
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  Speaker 4: in a very deep emotional level the same way a
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  Speaker 4: hit album could, right and and helping people, and it's
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  Speaker 4: and they associate that with me and it's not me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting all this credit for it, and it feels wonderful,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like, I don't know that I deserve it
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  Speaker 4: as much as like your dad, No, but you do
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  Speaker 4: put together a band because I didn't produce the show
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  Speaker 4: and I didn't write the show. I'm just in a
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  Speaker 4: sort of interpretive art, so I kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of put it apart. And we always want to lie
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  Speaker 5: to choose.
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  Speaker 2: You, And I wanted you to get mad when she
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  Speaker 2: asked for coffee and pretend that it bugged you.
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  Speaker 5: You loved every second of it, Like.
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  Speaker 2: These are the things like we and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I watched it in twenty twenty, like that's the first
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  Speaker 2: time I've ever seen it, and you change. My daughter's
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  Speaker 2: like we still talk about it, like we'll watch new
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  Speaker 2: shows and say it'll be like I liked it, mom,
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  Speaker 2: but not as not like Gilmore girls, you know, like.
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  Speaker 1: Is it is.
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  Speaker 7: It's the thing about the show that it just has
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  Speaker 7: life after life after life.
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  Speaker 6: It's just so amazing you're discovering it. Yeah, just same
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  Speaker 6: because your dad's songs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they meet me and there's this their six year
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  Speaker 4: old daughter and they Luke and the babies say it
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, what is happening? They watch it all
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  Speaker 4: the time. These children know the characters. They the theme
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  Speaker 4: song makes them stop whatever they're doing and just stare. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we had opera versions of it, like we
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  Speaker 2: sung it like no other than I'm sorry. In my head,
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  Speaker 2: you will always be Luke with your baseball cap on.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the one time you had to wear a
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  Speaker 2: suit and you didn't want to do it, like that was,
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  Speaker 2: but like I can't remember, Like I almost forgot that
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to come on the pod today, Like
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  Speaker 2: my memory is so bad. But the fact that I
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  Speaker 2: can remember those moments and like that shows the impact
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  Speaker 2: that you have on so many people.
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  Speaker 5: So we are so grateful to you, and we love
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  Speaker 5: gilmore girls, and.
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  Speaker 4: We love thank you so much. And I loved meeting
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  Speaker 4: you in Vegas and hanging out with you and your
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  Speaker 4: guy and it's just really a great Yeah you guys,
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  Speaker 4: you were very welcoming and more Yeah I do too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it will all right, Well keep on, We love you,
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  Speaker 6: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We love you.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, little ditty about.
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  Speaker 4: Bie guys, best of your father.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 7: I almost think it's cooler to have a relative being
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  Speaker 7: pop culture than yourself, Like.
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  Speaker 6: So cool that was, She's brilliant, she's awesome. She's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Wow man oh man, oh man.
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  Speaker 6: Well all right, that's uh so that'll be its own
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  Speaker 6: little thing.
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  Speaker 4: God him getting all emotional.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's so sweet. I know, isn't.
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