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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in you.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I
- 0:23Speaker 1: Heart Radio one eleven productions. We are joined by my
- 0:29Speaker 1: partial intrepid cru Suseyn French are newbie and and you
- 0:34Speaker 1: know where you lover are Stalwart, Amy Sugarman. Tara sued
- 0:39Speaker 1: is on an airplane right now. Danielle Romo may be
- 0:44Speaker 1: in labor right now, so we are we're praying for
- 0:49Speaker 1: a beautiful outcome.
- 0:50Speaker 3: There before we start fight face. This is a do
- 0:56Speaker 3: you know what you might not know because you're in
- 0:59Speaker 3: canad working.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to see Sullivan's crossing.
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- 1:14Speaker 2: So yeah, so this Wednesday, if you're listening on Monday,
- 1:16Speaker 2: this Wednesday. And word on the street is it's very
- 1:20Speaker 2: good A.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Word on the street. Yeah, we're pretty proud of it,
- 1:26Speaker 1: pretty exciting. It's very exciting. It's nice to be back
- 1:28Speaker 1: home at the CW. I started there in two thousand
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- 1:36Speaker 1: five or six. Yeah, and we were there at the
- 1:39Speaker 1: launch of the CW and it was a big deal
- 1:41Speaker 1: and it was everything was green and there was a
- 1:43Speaker 1: frog and there was you know, we did a whole
- 1:47Speaker 1: photo campaign and it was fun. It was just fun
- 1:49Speaker 1: launching a new network. And I'm still friends with a
- 1:52Speaker 1: bunch of the people that used to work over there.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So it's funny. Some people are still there. You and
- 1:57Speaker 2: I were talking about that. Some of the people that
- 1:59Speaker 2: were there with Gilmore Girls are still there.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Next Stars taking a position here
- 2:07Speaker 1: with the CW, and it's a big relaunch and they've
- 2:10Speaker 1: got a sports division and they do football, and they
- 2:12Speaker 1: do golf, and they do they do nightly news and
- 2:15Speaker 1: they're really a major network now.
- 2:17Speaker 2: And yeah, that's true.
- 2:18Speaker 1: It's quite something to see the growth from two thousand
- 2:22Speaker 1: and sixty today. Very very proud of these folks. They're
- 2:26Speaker 1: doing a great job over there. So anyway, yeah, so
- 2:28Speaker 1: Wednesday night, ye October fourth, c W, eight o'clock, seventh Central,
- 2:33Speaker 1: Sullivan's Crossing.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Check it out and everyone should watch because we will
- 2:38Speaker 2: be doing some special podcast episodes.
- 2:40Speaker 1: So yes, we will, and I'm excited. We're going to
- 2:43Speaker 1: drop them into the feed and we're going to be
- 2:44Speaker 1: talking to the stars. Yep. And can I announce who
- 2:49Speaker 1: the first guest is?
- 2:51Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, sure, yes you can.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It's going to be the actual star of the show,
- 2:56Speaker 1: Morgan Cohen. And I think you're all going to love her.
- 3:00Speaker 1: We all do up here, and we're going to get
- 3:04Speaker 1: to know her a little bit and just look out
- 3:06Speaker 1: for that podcast episode. So anyway, aweso, let's get started here.
- 3:12Speaker 1: What did everybody think of the episode?
- 3:14Speaker 2: Well, should we have Suzanne to our big synopsizing?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Well, that's right, we got a synopsisizations from Susanne French.
- 3:22Speaker 1: You're on care right.
- 3:24Speaker 4: This is a season six, episode two, fight Face. It
- 3:27Speaker 4: aired on September twentieth, two thousand and five. Feeling a
- 3:31Speaker 4: little lonely, Lorelai adopts a dog. Luke agrees to repair
- 3:34Speaker 4: Lorelei's house rather than buy the Twiguam house. This so
- 3:38Speaker 4: soon turns into trouble as TJ does some unwanted construction
- 3:41Speaker 4: on the house. Rory starts her community service assignment. Feeling
- 3:45Speaker 4: neglected and unhappy with how things are going. Rory visits
- 3:48Speaker 4: Luke at his diner and Luke lets it slip that
- 3:50Speaker 4: he and Laurlai are engaged.
- 3:53Speaker 2: What do you think of this episode?
- 3:55Speaker 1: I loved it. I really enjoyed it. It was very
- 3:59Speaker 1: very light and fun and delightful and breezy, and it
- 4:03Speaker 1: was a Dan Paladino written and directed episode. And you know,
- 4:07Speaker 1: I really, I really am digging on the Dan Palladino
- 4:10Speaker 1: writing style and the directing style. Not that I don't
- 4:13Speaker 1: love everybody else, but there's there's something a little different
- 4:16Speaker 1: about his episodes, and there's it's just kind of amazes
- 4:21Speaker 1: me every time I see it. Dan.
- 4:23Speaker 2: I could be an idiot saying this, but it seems
- 4:26Speaker 2: like he really likes to write for you and Lauren,
- 4:32Speaker 2: you know, Luke and Laura Lai, to have there. There
- 4:35Speaker 2: was a lot of that in this episode, and I thought,
- 4:38Speaker 2: I loved it.
- 4:39Speaker 1: It's some of the best. You know, what I really
- 4:42Speaker 1: saw in this episode was I really saw the relationship
- 4:46Speaker 1: between those two and it was just kind of a
- 4:50Speaker 1: delightful little journey there to see how they interact and
- 4:53Speaker 1: see how they are together. It's the best. I was
- 4:56Speaker 1: so comfortable in their presence and with their dialogue. And
- 4:59Speaker 1: another thing I noticed is it's it's really a wonderful thing.
- 5:03Speaker 1: And to have a scene partner like Lauren who you
- 5:06Speaker 1: can trust because we're doing all that fast dialogue back
- 5:09Speaker 1: and forth. And I always trusted that she was going
- 5:12Speaker 1: to be there timing wise, because it's all timing as
- 5:16Speaker 1: you see, right, And you know, I know she could
- 5:20Speaker 1: trust me too to keep the ball in the air,
- 5:22Speaker 1: because if there's a little too much of a pause
- 5:24Speaker 1: here and there, then there goes right out of the scene.
- 5:27Speaker 1: And it's like it's like pumping up a tire or
- 5:29Speaker 1: a balloon or something. It's the same.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Principle, even when you're standing on a roof, when you're.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Standing exactly, the timing was always there. She always delivered,
- 5:37Speaker 1: and she's just so great, so great at that so
- 5:41Speaker 1: and it really made those scenes. It was all timing
- 5:44Speaker 1: and and and pace and all that stuff. Difficult stuff
- 5:47Speaker 1: to do, but when you have a scene partner like that,
- 5:51Speaker 1: it's fun. You know, it's really fun.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get to it. But two things, even
- 5:56Speaker 2: when you were arguing, it was great right and for
- 6:03Speaker 2: me because you still saw the love there totally. And
- 6:06Speaker 2: just even like the moment where Luke says we're good,
- 6:12Speaker 2: we're good, and you're like, oh, yeah, they are good,
- 6:15Speaker 2: Like they can have that and be good five seconds
- 6:19Speaker 2: later and I know what, we'll talk about it when
- 6:21Speaker 2: we get to it. But the fact that Luke realized
- 6:25Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Twickham house. She wants to stay
- 6:28Speaker 2: in this house was for me the moment of the episode.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Really being in tune with her to that degree. What
- 6:36Speaker 1: does she want? Let me deliver what she wants? And
- 6:41Speaker 1: I love that roof scene too. I thought that roof
- 6:43Speaker 1: scene really defined their relationship to the point where they're
- 6:48Speaker 1: so comfortable with each other he can kind of, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 1: do a yellie thing like a lunatic on a roof,
- 6:54Speaker 1: but there's still love there. Yeah, and she understands what
- 6:57Speaker 1: it is and dissipated that that she was going to
- 7:02Speaker 1: ask her are we still good? No, we're good. She
- 7:04Speaker 1: didn't have to ask a.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Question, and he was upset. It's like, you were upset
- 7:09Speaker 2: because Rory really threw you off. And we'll debate it.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I get why he told her. I mean the whole thing, Well,
- 7:19Speaker 2: we'll go through it, because that was sort of a
- 7:21Speaker 2: moment when you're like, oh, no, you told her, but
- 7:24Speaker 2: you kind of had to tell her and how could
- 7:26Speaker 2: you not tell her? And oh no, like.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Just oh boy, yeah, great stuff, really great stuff. Thank you, Dan,
- 7:34Speaker 1: appreciate it.
- 7:40Speaker 2: So we start with the Twickham House and Suki and
- 7:43Speaker 2: Laura liar in front of the Tickham House, and I
- 7:45Speaker 2: actually thought that scene was really funny because Suki knows
- 7:49Speaker 2: Laura life so well that she's like it's sticking right,
- 7:53Speaker 2: like the engagement and then they had It was just
- 7:57Speaker 2: a good scene.
- 7:58Speaker 4: It was good to see Suki and I don't think
- 8:00Speaker 4: she had was in the episode before. I felt like
- 8:03Speaker 4: I hadn't seen her for a while.
- 8:04Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree, And I like how
- 8:07Speaker 2: she calls her out like are you gonna bolt? I'm
- 8:09Speaker 2: not gonna bolt, and then they sort of have their
- 8:12Speaker 2: flirty moment. It was a little dirty. It just got bigger,
- 8:15Speaker 2: that's what she said, you know, like they definitely throw
- 8:18Speaker 2: those sort of I don't know double entendre a little bit.
- 8:22Speaker 1: I didn't understand what they were talking about. Y'all have
- 8:24Speaker 1: to fill me in later.
- 8:26Speaker 4: It was good best friend time, like we did.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of them is is good greed.
- 8:34Speaker 2: It was just that was great. Then I think, do
- 8:38Speaker 2: we go to the community service. We see we go
- 8:42Speaker 2: to the community service right away, and the like leader
- 8:46Speaker 2: of the community service is kind of like that guy,
- 8:48Speaker 2: that guy that you see and everything. I have to
- 8:50Speaker 2: look up what his name was while you guys talk,
- 8:52Speaker 2: because that guy's in everything.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Oh he was great.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's in it great.
- 9:00Speaker 1: He you know, that was one of the best pieces
- 9:02Speaker 1: of casting I've seen on the show. I mean, he
- 9:06Speaker 1: really made me believe that she was in that situation.
- 9:09Speaker 1: That's exactly the type of guy that's going to be
- 9:12Speaker 1: employed at that level doing that in the Department of Corrections,
- 9:17Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. He was perfect,
- 9:20Speaker 1: and the casting for those extras was perfect. All these
- 9:25Speaker 1: shady looking people and then Rory.
- 9:29Speaker 4: He really hit like every stereotype as they you know,
- 9:32Speaker 4: kind of panned across the room.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Ye what was his name? What was Oh? John Capellos?
- 9:38Speaker 5: He was he.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Is in so many He's so good.
- 9:44Speaker 1: He was so good.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Oh man, I know I'm jumping ahead, but when she
- 9:48Speaker 2: says anyone need to smoke like, I was just like,
- 9:51Speaker 2: oh my god, I'd love to.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I'd love to interview him, you know, if you get
- 9:55Speaker 1: him on.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure we can.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be cool. He really hit it out of
- 10:01Speaker 1: the park, saying there's no there's no such thing as
- 10:04Speaker 1: small scenes, just small actors. This guy's a big actor.
- 10:07Speaker 1: You know. He really made it his own, really great.
- 10:10Speaker 2: I agree. I think that's important for it to be believable,
- 10:14Speaker 2: and I actually sort of do even though she had
- 10:16Speaker 2: like fake dirt on her face. I do believe that
- 10:20Speaker 2: she did have a lot of fake dirt on her face.
- 10:23Speaker 4: First of all, I.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Know we're not there yet, but when she when the
- 10:26Speaker 2: person's mad, when she goes for the trash and the
- 10:29Speaker 2: person goes for the trash at the same time, and
- 10:31Speaker 2: then she takes the trashaw like the community service stuff
- 10:37Speaker 2: is actually kind of funny and laying better than I
- 10:41Speaker 2: even thought it would. Oh my god, you know what
- 10:46Speaker 2: I just realized as I'm looking him up. He's in
- 10:49Speaker 2: the breakfast club.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Guy's in the He's totally that.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Guy, like he's like, he's like a badass in the
- 10:58Speaker 1: breakfast club. He was was heither janitor or something?
- 11:02Speaker 2: I think, so I have to look it up, but yes,
- 11:03Speaker 2: now it's totally coming back.
- 11:05Speaker 1: It's like they could they couldn't put one over on him,
- 11:07Speaker 1: and he just like, oh, he schooled he schooled the judge. Yeah.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, so we go into the diner and that
- 11:22Speaker 2: was sort of interesting, Like at first I couldn't figure
- 11:24Speaker 2: out what you two were talking about, but you're talking
- 11:26Speaker 2: about Star Wars obviously last and that was that was funny.
- 11:36Speaker 2: That was a funny bit. And then you know, she
- 11:38Speaker 2: throws in George Lucas own San Francisco, and then you
- 11:41Speaker 2: go into Bewitched, which I actually also thought because I
- 11:46Speaker 2: they did sort of screw up Bewitched with that movie.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Do you know why George Lucas got so rich?
- 11:52Speaker 2: Don't tell me, hold on them. Let's think merchandise.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Yes, because the studios at the time, what was it,
- 12:01Speaker 1: the seventies, Yeah, mid seventies, late seventies were not hep
- 12:08Speaker 1: to uh what merchandising could bring in, and George knew
- 12:13Speaker 1: that this was going to be a real windfall merchandising wise,
- 12:17Speaker 1: and so they cut him in. I don't know, I
- 12:21Speaker 1: think he got all of it. Whoa, I think he
- 12:24Speaker 1: got one hundred percent of the merchandising. I might be wrong.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Maybe the studios got a little bit, but he got
- 12:28Speaker 1: the lion's share of the merchandising in that and that's.
- 12:30Speaker 4: Imperfectly Yeah, smart move.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, billions.
- 12:36Speaker 4: Did you notice in that diner scene that they had
- 12:39Speaker 4: the windows covered, No, so you could like the blinds,
- 12:44Speaker 4: the blinds were partially closed, but you couldn't see through
- 12:48Speaker 4: them like they had the windows covered.
- 12:51Speaker 1: In that first in that first the Star Wars.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Yeah, the first diners, he's talking to TJ. I don't know.
- 12:59Speaker 4: I wasn't sure why that was if I thought maybe
- 13:01Speaker 4: the scene was shot possibly at night, and so they
- 13:04Speaker 4: had to cover the windows so they could blast them
- 13:07Speaker 4: with light and make it look like daylight outside.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's they do do that sometimes. I do not recall.
- 13:12Speaker 1: All I know is that there we are as soon
- 13:15Speaker 1: as we see Michael day Lewis, we're laughing. The posture,
- 13:21Speaker 1: the attitude, and it's just like the guy. He's a
- 13:24Speaker 1: great physical comedian, yes, great physical comedic actor. He just
- 13:30Speaker 1: owns that character.
- 13:31Speaker 2: We see more of the diner, and there was some
- 13:33Speaker 2: interesting shots of the diner in this episode where you
- 13:37Speaker 2: see more because obviously we see where the shelves went
- 13:40Speaker 2: and that wasn't something that I've ever like. I didn't
- 13:42Speaker 2: really know that it went around like that. There's sort
- 13:45Speaker 2: of that little alcove there, and then later there's another
- 13:49Speaker 2: scene where we see the two tables shot just differently.
- 13:53Speaker 2: We just saw more of the diner in this episode.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I love it when TJ said he was going to
- 13:59Speaker 4: give Luke one of the shelves is a wedding gift,
- 14:02Speaker 4: but then he raised the price on the other two shelves,
- 14:04Speaker 4: so it came out the same.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a good scene. It's a good it's
- 14:12Speaker 2: all good. Their banter's good right from the start. And
- 14:15Speaker 2: then does she say bye doll? Did I mishear that
- 14:18Speaker 2: or does she say bye doll? I'm oh, I think
- 14:22Speaker 2: so cute. It was cute.
- 14:25Speaker 1: It's just everything between those two, Luke and Laural ives
- 14:29Speaker 1: just a delight to watch. It really solidified and and
- 14:33Speaker 1: and showed how easy their relationship is and how comfortable
- 14:38Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, they've found, they've found, they've both found
- 14:43Speaker 1: their north stars.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Should we stop going to movies? She said? Should we
- 14:47Speaker 2: stop going? She said, should should we stop going to movies?
- 14:49Speaker 2: Because they just argue and banter about the movies. It's
- 14:53Speaker 2: just they have a great relationship.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I love in this scene when.
- 14:58Speaker 1: They're both highly critical people Yeah, they like to go
- 15:02Speaker 1: to things, you know how it's kind of fun to
- 15:04Speaker 1: go with go to the movies and then pick them
- 15:06Speaker 1: apart at totally totally.
- 15:09Speaker 4: I also love how you just kind of what we're
- 15:11Speaker 4: doing do a podcast about it.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Exactly, good one, Susan, exactly. Is this the scene where
- 15:19Speaker 2: he says I think he says like both our ladies
- 15:24Speaker 2: were squiring them or something like he's kind of doing that.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Oh my god, and Luke's like, that's my sister, Like stop.
- 15:32Speaker 2: It was just a good bit. It was just all good. Yeah,
- 15:37Speaker 2: and then he gives that random couple's card.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Oh god, that was funny. He's just so you don't
- 15:45Speaker 1: want to seem to end, you know, It's like you
- 15:47Speaker 1: know it's going to end, and you just sort of
- 15:49Speaker 1: feel it's gonna end any minute. But it's like, no,
- 15:52Speaker 1: I hope there's I hope Luke comes back and there's
- 15:54Speaker 1: more engagement, but you can go. I just want to
- 15:57Speaker 1: see I just want to see Dailuise on screen more,
- 15:59Speaker 1: you know.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I love him, and I actually
- 16:03Speaker 2: liked seeing Liz back again. We haven't seen them in
- 16:06Speaker 2: a bit, so I was happy about it.
- 16:09Speaker 4: Then we go to the hilarious.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Then we go to the scene in the center of
- 16:15Speaker 2: town town square, and we see the animals and we
- 16:20Speaker 2: meet paul Anka for the first time. I never I mean,
- 16:27Speaker 2: I had forgotten that sort of her history with animals.
- 16:30Speaker 2: That was a funny bit that like I'd slipped my mind.
- 16:33Speaker 1: It was, it was, and it was good to see
- 16:36Speaker 1: Liz Torres come in there and deliver yeah, some great stuff,
- 16:39Speaker 1: you know, and uh yeah, that was that was a
- 16:42Speaker 1: nice setup for what came later, you know, because it
- 16:45Speaker 1: because we mentioned there was a Luke and Laurel. I
- 16:48Speaker 1: seen in there when he's meeting the dog for the
- 16:50Speaker 1: first time where it pays off in there.
- 16:52Speaker 2: And that was even better because it's like very subtle
- 16:55Speaker 2: at that point when he's like should should you?
- 16:58Speaker 1: She just jumped off. Was so funny.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Speaking of the timing, like that's where you guys are
- 17:05Speaker 2: just like home runs, because that's not easy and it
- 17:08Speaker 2: only works because you're so subtle about it, and she's
- 17:13Speaker 2: so it was a hamster was defective. There's like a
- 17:21Speaker 2: pig in town, the rabbits, it's just the turtle, the
- 17:25Speaker 2: whole It was just really good. And then we see
- 17:28Speaker 2: now this was the first time I have noticed Loralai
- 17:32Speaker 2: really wearing her ring, her engagement ring. I don't know
- 17:37Speaker 2: if I missed it sort of at the end of
- 17:39Speaker 2: the other episode, but I definitely was noticing it, and
- 17:41Speaker 2: then we bump into Liz and they're talking about being engaged.
- 17:49Speaker 4: Yeah, because the last episode ended with Luke coming in
- 17:53Speaker 4: and saying, you know, time's here, let's go, like, so
- 17:56Speaker 4: she hadn't didn't even have the ring yet, yeah, at
- 17:58Speaker 4: the end of the last episode, So that was the
- 18:00Speaker 4: first time we saw her wearing it.
- 18:03Speaker 2: It's great. Now, Okay, this is something that I've been
- 18:06Speaker 2: excited to talk about. Should she change her name?
- 18:12Speaker 1: Well she if she proposed to him, oh god, then
- 18:17Speaker 1: probably not.
- 18:19Speaker 2: You know, can you see her being Laura I can Danes?
- 18:25Speaker 1: I can? I can?
- 18:26Speaker 2: I can see her hyphenating oh, Gilmore Dan because she
- 18:31Speaker 2: already has kind of, you know, her professional career going,
- 18:34Speaker 2: and people know her as Laura Gilmore who.
- 18:36Speaker 4: Owns the Inn, and I see her as a hyphenator.
- 18:41Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good flow of a name,
- 18:42Speaker 1: Laura Gilmore Danes.
- 18:44Speaker 2: It's not. Yeah, it's pretty good.
- 18:45Speaker 1: That's kind of cool.
- 18:47Speaker 2: But I had never thought about that before until you know,
- 18:51Speaker 2: because we have this, we're able to talk about it.
- 18:53Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, she wouldn't be Laura
- 18:55Speaker 2: like Gilmore and I love that. Liss is like we're
- 18:58Speaker 2: sister in law's like, you know, it's just everything's perfect
- 19:05Speaker 2: in this episode so far. It's moving fast, there's new things.
- 19:08Speaker 2: She takes the dog and you're like it was almost
- 19:11Speaker 2: so like quick and subtle that you're just like, did
- 19:15Speaker 2: she just get a dog?
- 19:17Speaker 4: Oh my god?
- 19:18Speaker 1: Why does Luke hate dogs?
- 19:20Speaker 2: I don't know. He doesn't seem to type.
- 19:24Speaker 4: He gave a pretty good list. They smell. They know
- 19:28Speaker 4: he gave a whole list about why he hates dogs.
- 19:31Speaker 1: But that doesn't that seems a bit out of character
- 19:35Speaker 1: for me.
- 19:35Speaker 2: I agree. He seems like he would have a dog
- 19:37Speaker 2: in that truck to take.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Fishing absolutely, you know, especially God, Yeah, yeah, I love dogs. Yeah.
- 19:48Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, then you'd think that they would
- 19:51Speaker 2: have had Luke be a dog guy. I don't know
- 19:52Speaker 2: why they're not, because it doesn't really change anything. If
- 19:55Speaker 2: he was a dog guy. I guess you'd have to
- 19:56Speaker 2: be more.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was anyway.
- 20:02Speaker 2: So we go to the Gilmours and the breakfast spread
- 20:09Speaker 2: was so amazing that I literally was like, can I
- 20:12Speaker 2: live there?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
- 20:15Speaker 4: I loved when Emily when they were leaving and Emily says,
- 20:18Speaker 4: finish the rest of this, and Barye's like, I'll try.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Amy, you would have You would last about five minutes
- 20:24Speaker 1: with Emily.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Would not go well.
- 20:28Speaker 1: It would not go well. You would get in her
- 20:30Speaker 1: face and you would storm out. Give me a break.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Come on, I would enjoy I would enjoy the food.
- 20:36Speaker 2: But yeah, she's yeah, but she's very you get in
- 20:43Speaker 2: this episode why she drives Lorlai crazy because she's subtle
- 20:48Speaker 2: with her controllingness, if that's a word. It's so passive
- 20:52Speaker 2: aggressive and it's like, oh yuck.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Yeah, she was particularly rough with Rory was and.
- 21:00Speaker 2: She in a passive aggressive way, like suddenly Rory's joining
- 21:04Speaker 2: the da R Like what in the heck?
- 21:07Speaker 1: H Well, now she's got her under her roof, so
- 21:12Speaker 1: you know, it's easy pickings. Now she doesn't even have
- 21:15Speaker 1: to go through Lorela anymore. Yeah, she can just you know,
- 21:18Speaker 1: she can just be her her horrible self. I mean,
- 21:22Speaker 1: she walks into the room with that. They want to
- 21:24Speaker 1: talk to her, and she's like sit, sit, like she's
- 21:27Speaker 1: a you know, like she's a domesticated house pet or something.
- 21:32Speaker 1: A couple of questions your granddaughter like that, you know, when.
- 21:35Speaker 2: You steal a yacht, why do they impound your car,
- 21:40Speaker 2: because like, it's if her car was in the parking lot,
- 21:43Speaker 2: it's not.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Like they used the car and the commission of the crime.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Like that didn't really make sense to me, because I'm like,
- 21:48Speaker 2: but yes.
- 21:49Speaker 1: I just explained it. She they used, she used her car,
- 21:52Speaker 1: and the commission of that crime. Did she Yeah, she
- 21:56Speaker 1: drove to the dock, right, How did she get that?
- 22:00Speaker 2: Not a lawyer nor police officer.
- 22:03Speaker 4: No, it's probably like some private parking lot for the
- 22:06Speaker 4: harbor or something. And when she was in jail.
- 22:08Speaker 2: They came and told her car. That all makes sense,
- 22:12Speaker 2: but they also have money, like they could have gotten
- 22:14Speaker 2: her car back. The thing. I kind of liked in
- 22:22Speaker 2: that scene. And I don't know, I want to hear
- 22:23Speaker 2: what you guys say. She talks about the car being
- 22:26Speaker 2: and impounded, and they sort of say it's forgotten. It's forgotten,
- 22:32Speaker 2: like the yacht, the whole thing, it's forgotten. I don't
- 22:37Speaker 2: know if that's good parenting and quotes are bad, but
- 22:39Speaker 2: I sort of thought, Okay, I'm gonna give them some
- 22:43Speaker 2: points for that. They're not beating her.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Up over it.
- 22:46Speaker 4: I felt a little bit differently about that. I felt
- 22:50Speaker 4: it was because Emily literally said, She's like, oh, it
- 22:52Speaker 4: didn't happen, Like you're not gonna have to face any
- 22:56Speaker 4: consequences for what you did, Like we're just basically they
- 22:59Speaker 4: kind of replace Lorelai as their daughter and now the
- 23:03Speaker 4: three of them are going to move on with their
- 23:04Speaker 4: lives together. I did notice that because they were completely
- 23:10Speaker 4: dismissive of the whole thing, like she hadn't just done this.
- 23:15Speaker 4: And Emily makes a comment about the orientation and she says, oh,
- 23:21Speaker 4: you're bearing this angelically like like.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Rory's the victim.
- 23:26Speaker 4: I just I thought that was a weird take.
- 23:29Speaker 1: So what more can they do? I mean, she's already
- 23:31Speaker 1: getting three hundred hours and she's got to do it
- 23:33Speaker 1: in six months. That's almost a full time job. I
- 23:37Speaker 1: mean she's putting in, you know, a lot of hours
- 23:41Speaker 1: per day to get that down to zero. So it's like,
- 23:47Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, this state has stepped in and meet
- 23:50Speaker 1: it out there justice and you know.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can see that too. I don't
- 23:55Speaker 4: think they should necessarily keep punishing her over and over
- 23:57Speaker 4: again for it. But I just thought it was interesting
- 24:01Speaker 4: how they really kind of had the attitude that, you know,
- 24:04Speaker 4: none of this was Rory's fault and she was the
- 24:06Speaker 4: victim in the hole.
- 24:07Speaker 2: So yeah, I think both takes are kind of interesting
- 24:10Speaker 2: because I sort of liked how sweet they were and
- 24:12Speaker 2: that they weren't beating her up over it. But then
- 24:16Speaker 2: I also get your point where you're like, she committed
- 24:19Speaker 2: a total felony, Like what what are we doing? So
- 24:24Speaker 2: we go back to we see her in the chair
- 24:27Speaker 2: with the TV on, and then she's got the bathing
- 24:30Speaker 2: suit on, and all of a sudden, I'm like, oh
- 24:33Speaker 2: my god, she's totally bored.
- 24:35Speaker 4: It was so symbolic, right, like she's sitting in this
- 24:38Speaker 4: empty room. There's nothing in the room, there's nothing in
- 24:42Speaker 4: her life, Like she doesn't have her mom, she doesn't
- 24:45Speaker 4: have school, Like she's just literally sitting in an empty
- 24:49Speaker 4: room symbolically as well as physically.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but she does have the graduate, she does have
- 24:54Speaker 1: Mike Nichols and Tustin Haman and that great scene.
- 24:59Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so happy you're saying that, because I
- 25:01Speaker 2: was like, is this Jacques Cousteau like she was watching.
- 25:06Speaker 1: That was exactly the scene where he took some time
- 25:09Speaker 1: off from his getting his PhD. He or no a
- 25:14Speaker 1: fast great remember, and then he's he's on the He
- 25:18Speaker 1: hadn't started the I don't think he'd started the affair yet. No, no,
- 25:22Speaker 1: he had started the affair. Uh oh no, that was
- 25:29Speaker 1: his birthday present. Okay. And Anne Bancroft and her husband
- 25:33Speaker 1: came over that that great actor who was in Jaws. Gosh,
- 25:36Speaker 1: his name escapes me.
- 25:38Speaker 2: Schneider. No, no, the main guy in Jaws.
- 25:44Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm talking about the graduate, right, but he
- 25:46Speaker 1: was in Jaws. Uh, Anne Bancroft's husband in the Graduate. Yes,
- 25:54Speaker 1: he was in Jaws as the town mayor.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Oh not Roy Schneider, okay, hold Robert Shaw now the mayor,
- 26:01Speaker 2: the mayor, Murray Hamilton.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Murray Hamilton, that's him. Fantastic actor. Wow, he was in
- 26:09Speaker 1: the Graduate. So anyway, so that's the scene in the
- 26:12Speaker 1: Graduate where he put on his They were all waiting
- 26:15Speaker 1: for him to put on his his deep diving equipment
- 26:20Speaker 1: and test it out in the pot. And he felt
- 26:23Speaker 1: like he he he just felt like, what is my
- 26:27Speaker 1: life turning into? And then he starts up the affair
- 26:30Speaker 1: with the bankroft friend's wife. I'm that's the but I'm
- 26:36Speaker 1: let me get to the scene. So the scene is
- 26:38Speaker 1: he's laying on the raft after and his father comes
- 26:41Speaker 1: by and says, Benjamin, Benjamin, have you thought about graduate school?
- 26:46Speaker 1: Have you thought about this? And he goes, no, I'm
- 26:49Speaker 1: just sort of taking some time off, and and his
- 26:52Speaker 1: father says, well, you would think a person who's put
- 26:55Speaker 1: in some good hard work and has earned some accolades
- 26:58Speaker 1: would want to get off his but he says, there's
- 27:02Speaker 1: no problem with a young man taking a couple of
- 27:05Speaker 1: weeks off. It's great, you've earned it, but now it's
- 27:08Speaker 1: time to get off your ass. And so that's what
- 27:11Speaker 1: the reference was.
- 27:13Speaker 2: But that's so it's so major, and like I'm bummed
- 27:17Speaker 2: I didn't get it because it's so parallel. So it
- 27:21Speaker 2: was really actually genius. I just didn't get it because
- 27:24Speaker 2: I was like, is a joque custa? Like I didn't
- 27:26Speaker 2: understand what was happening. But it's the parallel to Rory.
- 27:30Speaker 4: Yeah, So she's literally watching.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Her own thing.
- 27:35Speaker 1: She's watching her I think it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Just popped into my head. If she's got three hundred
- 27:39Speaker 2: hours of community service in six months, she actually couldn't
- 27:42Speaker 2: go to school.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Right, right, yeah, yeah.
- 27:48Speaker 2: I mean I guess if she was still in school,
- 27:50Speaker 2: maybe they give you a longer time. I don't know.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I guess it is odd that they gave her three
- 28:00Speaker 1: hundred hours if they If did the judge know that
- 28:03Speaker 1: she was in school.
- 28:05Speaker 4: You would think the judge didn't know that said you're
- 28:07Speaker 4: a student at Yale, and Rory said yes, so she knew.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Although technically back again, giving a student, any student anywhere
- 28:17Speaker 1: trying to get by, you know, trying to do their studies,
- 28:20Speaker 1: giving them three hundred hours of community service, it's just
- 28:22Speaker 1: it's just like overkill. It's like you're ruined that kid's
- 28:25Speaker 1: school year. They're gonna they're gonna fail. Right, they don't
- 28:28Speaker 1: have that much free time. How's she supposed to study exactly?
- 28:31Speaker 2: So anyway, I mean, I think that's kind of an
- 28:33Speaker 2: interesting thing. Interesting and that she's bored and she's, you know,
- 28:40Speaker 2: happy to polish silver. I don't understand why she's not
- 28:44Speaker 2: realizing I need to go back to you. What am
- 28:47Speaker 2: I doing?
- 28:48Speaker 5: So?
- 28:48Speaker 4: A fun fact on the silver polishing scene, where Rory
- 28:53Speaker 4: is speaking beginner Spanish with the Maid people, fans, some
- 29:00Speaker 4: fans probably already know this, but Spanish was actually Alexis's
- 29:04Speaker 4: first language. Yes, she didn't learn English until she went
- 29:08Speaker 4: to school, so I forgot that.
- 29:13Speaker 2: So yes she should have.
- 29:15Speaker 4: She didn't speak Spanish when she did that scene. I
- 29:17Speaker 4: always thought that was kind of a fun.
- 29:19Speaker 2: That's a great note. That's a great note. So I
- 29:21Speaker 2: want to talk about the scene now after this where
- 29:25Speaker 2: Luke meets paul Anka. So Segott, tell us about your
- 29:30Speaker 2: thoughts with that full scene where you come in and
- 29:33Speaker 2: you're meeting paul Anka for the first time.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Well, it's always it's always takes a lot longer when
- 29:40Speaker 1: you're working with an animal or a baby, even at
- 29:44Speaker 1: Rubber Baby. But you know, it's nice to see a
- 29:49Speaker 1: dog on set. I'm a dog person, so I really
- 29:52Speaker 1: enjoy when when dogs are on set, and this was
- 29:55Speaker 1: a I remember this being a particular well behaved dog
- 29:58Speaker 1: and well trained, and they all are because you know,
- 30:02Speaker 1: the Warner Brothers only brings in the best animals. And
- 30:07Speaker 1: uh yeah, that was a very lovely, loving dog who
- 30:12Speaker 1: was very professional and didn't freak out and picked up
- 30:15Speaker 1: did all that it was supposed to do, and the
- 30:17Speaker 1: trainer the trainer was really great and you know, we
- 30:21Speaker 1: we we didn't like seeing that dog go. We wanted to.
- 30:26Speaker 1: It's rare that any actors want more animals on the
- 30:29Speaker 1: set because it just takes to so much time wrangling
- 30:32Speaker 1: them and handling that right. You know, they call they
- 30:34Speaker 1: cause a lot of delays because well, you know they're animals,
- 30:37Speaker 1: and you know people cause delays too, so uh but
- 30:43Speaker 1: it was Yeah, that was a particularly enjoyable experience. I
- 30:46Speaker 1: remember just really loving that scene and loving the work
- 30:49Speaker 1: we were doing.
- 30:50Speaker 2: And there's a lot of movement. There's a lot of
- 30:53Speaker 2: movement in that scene. You're in the house, you're out
- 30:55Speaker 2: of the house on the one door, you come around
- 30:57Speaker 2: to the porch, you're back in the house. It was
- 30:59Speaker 2: a it's a good scene. And then there's major stuff
- 31:02Speaker 2: because we really start to get the vibe that Loralai
- 31:06Speaker 2: does not want to sell her house.
- 31:11Speaker 1: You mean the movement from the living room to the
- 31:12Speaker 1: kitchen and then outside.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Yep.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all shot separately, right, no, or with a
- 31:20Speaker 1: steady cam. They follow us into the You got Steve
- 31:24Speaker 1: with a steady cam strapped to him. That those things
- 31:27Speaker 1: are like eighty pounds ninety pounds hundred pounds. They're really heavy.
- 31:30Speaker 1: And Steve was always great. I guess he followed us
- 31:33Speaker 1: into that scene. If it was a continuous scene, we
- 31:35Speaker 1: just didn't just cut to it, and that's how you
- 31:37Speaker 1: get that master shot. But with the steady cam, you
- 31:40Speaker 1: can come in and get close ups, and you can
- 31:42Speaker 1: get two shots, you can get all kinds of things,
- 31:44Speaker 1: and sometimes they like to do that, I think, especially
- 31:47Speaker 1: to keep a scene flowing like that. And I'll go
- 31:49Speaker 1: back and watch it, but I think I think they did.
- 31:51Speaker 1: I do remember Steve with his steady cam, Steve we
- 31:54Speaker 1: called him, who even directed a really wonderful episode as well.
- 31:59Speaker 1: He earned his stripes man, you know, because that guy, yeah,
- 32:02Speaker 1: putting in a lot of work, a lot of legwork
- 32:04Speaker 1: doing that.
- 32:06Speaker 2: So we go from that scene and then I think
- 32:09Speaker 2: we get to the scene where Rory's in a pretty
- 32:12Speaker 2: dress drinking club soda, and we learned that they're going
- 32:15Speaker 2: to help her find a job, and it was just oh, no, Suzanne,
- 32:21Speaker 2: were you like here we go?
- 32:24Speaker 4: I thought Alexis did a great job in that scene.
- 32:29Speaker 4: The face acting. I know Scott says there is no
- 32:32Speaker 4: such thing as face acting, but when they were telling
- 32:35Speaker 4: her that they're going to find her a job. She's like,
- 32:37Speaker 4: oh really, Like she's you could see the wheels turning
- 32:41Speaker 4: inside her head. I thought that was a great scene
- 32:45Speaker 4: because she's like, oh, my gosh, how am I going
- 32:46Speaker 4: to do this?
- 32:47Speaker 2: And I think she isn't standing up for herself because
- 32:52Speaker 2: she knows she's screwed up so bad and they've taken
- 32:55Speaker 2: her in and they're paying for everything that she feels
- 32:57Speaker 2: like she has to do what they say, right, you know,
- 33:01Speaker 2: I get that same vibe in the DAR thing, right,
- 33:06Speaker 2: and she she.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Knows that she needs to keep them on her side
- 33:10Speaker 4: because otherwise she'll have nothing. So I agree that she
- 33:16Speaker 4: kind of felt like, I don't have any choice. I'm
- 33:17Speaker 4: going to have to do this.
- 33:18Speaker 2: You see her face in that scene, and you see
- 33:21Speaker 2: her face with the ladies of the luncheon, which is
- 33:24Speaker 2: of a scene, but she feels like she's just going
- 33:28Speaker 2: along with it because she has no choice.
- 33:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:32Speaker 4: I agreed with that. And when the one at that
- 33:37Speaker 4: where they're sitting out on the patio and the one
- 33:39Speaker 4: woman asks when she joined the DAR, and she has
- 33:43Speaker 4: this look on her face like, Oh, that hadn't even
- 33:44Speaker 4: occurred to me to join the dar But then she's like, Okay, well,
- 33:47Speaker 4: I guess I'm joining right.
- 33:49Speaker 2: She's just literally going to do whatever. Emily says. Although
- 33:52Speaker 2: those ladies.
- 33:54Speaker 5: Talking about which forefather was the hottest, I thought that
- 34:04Speaker 5: was pretty funny because I personally I don't know what
- 34:07Speaker 5: any of them look like, so I that would not
- 34:09Speaker 5: even be something that I would think.
- 34:10Speaker 4: To form an opinion.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Not typically super attracted to George Washington or Ben Franklin,
- 34:16Speaker 2: just saying, oh my god, John Adams, I have no
- 34:20Speaker 2: idea what he looks like. Is that his name? Yes? Yes, Scott,
- 34:27Speaker 2: do you have a forefather that you thought was the hottest?
- 34:31Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just I don't think those terms regarding
- 34:38Speaker 1: forefathers crazy. But I've never sort of.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Thing I love about it, isn't.
- 34:48Speaker 1: It in that that way? That's a that's an odd
- 34:50Speaker 1: conversation for me to be engaged in.
- 34:53Speaker 2: So I was like, who's ever had that conversation?
- 34:58Speaker 4: It's so good, it's so da R.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Fellows were sitting around, Hey, hey, John,
- 35:05Speaker 1: glad you showed up. Listen, we're talking about the founding follows,
- 35:08Speaker 1: which one you know, get your motor runner? Can you
- 35:10Speaker 1: imagine Scott's like, once you think of the hottest.
- 35:13Speaker 2: If you're the reverse. Scott's like, you know, Martha Washington,
- 35:16Speaker 2: she really did it for me.
- 35:21Speaker 1: That's why it's That's why it's any funny face.
- 35:28Speaker 2: The only bone to pick I have with that scene
- 35:31Speaker 2: is and Scott, you may be able to correct me.
- 35:35Speaker 2: You can tell when they're outside, and you can tell
- 35:38Speaker 2: when they're inside pretending they're outside.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Right.
- 35:42Speaker 2: It's like the juxtaposition between the DA R Luncheon where
- 35:46Speaker 2: you're like, you're acting like you're outside, but you're definitely inside,
- 35:49Speaker 2: and then the jeep pulling up and you're like, oh,
- 35:52Speaker 2: she's outside.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Actually the jeep pulling up is inside.
- 35:59Speaker 2: No, don't say that to me.
- 36:01Speaker 1: To the to the Gilmore House. Yeah, it's inside. Stop,
- 36:05Speaker 1: that's not outside.
- 36:07Speaker 4: What but at her house it's it was outside because
- 36:10Speaker 4: you could see the shadow.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, it is outside Gilmore House.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Gilmore.
- 36:16Speaker 1: House is on a sound stage.
- 36:18Speaker 2: Oh my god, you panicked me there that when the
- 36:20Speaker 2: jeep pulls up to Laurelize House that it was inside.
- 36:22Speaker 2: I was like, well, then.
- 36:24Speaker 1: That's definitely outside.
- 36:25Speaker 2: So then we get to the scene my favorite scene
- 36:28Speaker 2: in this episode is you're all on the roof. Oh no,
- 36:33Speaker 2: not yet. This is where George, this is where we learn.
- 36:37Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite things. This is where
- 36:39Speaker 2: we learn that you, Luke slash Scott, figured out her
- 36:45Speaker 2: vibe that she doesn't want to sell the house. So
- 36:47Speaker 2: you're taking the measurements and figuring out how you're going
- 36:50Speaker 2: to remodel this house to make it work. Oh, it's
- 36:54Speaker 2: the sweetest.
- 36:55Speaker 1: It's a great example of a relationship where you know everybody.
- 37:00Speaker 1: He's in tune with everybody, you know. It's like they
- 37:02Speaker 1: just kind of vibe each other. They feel each other.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Definitely feels her and what she needs and what she wants.
- 37:08Speaker 1: And I think he's right a good amount of the time.
- 37:13Speaker 1: I'm sure there's examples where he's been dead wrong and
- 37:17Speaker 1: he's been off the mark, and he's just a human
- 37:19Speaker 1: being like everybody else. But yeah, in this, in this regard,
- 37:22Speaker 1: he's really tuned into what she wants, which really makes
- 37:25Speaker 1: it appealing, you know, for me to watch, and I
- 37:28Speaker 1: think everybody else great character, great character.
- 37:32Speaker 4: I love that scene. It was great between Luke and Lorelei.
- 37:36Speaker 4: And then you had the comic relief with TJ not
- 37:38Speaker 4: knowing how to work the screwdriver and paul Anka locks
- 37:43Speaker 4: himself in the car somehow. Like I just loved everything
- 37:46Speaker 4: about that scene. I thought it was good. And then
- 37:48Speaker 4: the frisbee. She caught the frisbee. How many takes did
- 37:52Speaker 4: that take?
- 37:53Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was amazing. That was amazing. I
- 37:57Speaker 2: can't decide if we're blurring the two scene with the roof.
- 38:01Speaker 2: Oh maybe because this is but that's fine, everybody gets it.
- 38:04Speaker 2: There's two major scenes. This is just the preliminary one
- 38:08Speaker 2: where she learns they're not TJ hasn't made the hole yet.
- 38:11Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, you're right.
- 38:12Speaker 2: But that's fine. That's fine. But the frisbee, Oh my god,
- 38:16Speaker 2: the frisbee was epic, and she gets credit for the catch.
- 38:20Speaker 2: But good throw, dude, good throw.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Huh he you know I still got it or had
- 38:25Speaker 1: it back then.
- 38:26Speaker 2: You know, I just wrote in this particular scene, the
- 38:29Speaker 2: first house one, I just wrote, cute, really cute Luke,
- 38:33Speaker 2: Like he just is a great boyfriend, fiance husband, knowing
- 38:39Speaker 2: what she wants and not making a big old stink
- 38:42Speaker 2: out of it, just going I'm good with Like he.
- 38:44Speaker 4: Just scheduled the guys to come over and start talking,
- 38:47Speaker 4: like he didn't even ask her.
- 38:49Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just going to take care of this.
- 38:51Speaker 4: And he gets the architect over there, and yeah, he
- 38:53Speaker 4: just starts moving forward because he knows that's what she's
- 38:56Speaker 4: gonna want.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's fully comfortable within the relationship now that yeah,
- 39:01Speaker 1: fully be himself. Not that he was hiding any part
- 39:05Speaker 1: of himself before, but now he's demonstrably Yeah, Loop dings right.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Then to jump to the other roof scene, because we
- 39:14Speaker 2: might as well talk about it here since we're talking
- 39:16Speaker 2: about it. I love the scene. I love their sort
- 39:19Speaker 2: of fight that they work out. The only flag I
- 39:21Speaker 2: have is like, come on, TJ's that big of an
- 39:24Speaker 2: idiot that he's going to make a ginormous ole in
- 39:28Speaker 2: the house.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't really, It didn't
- 39:34Speaker 1: really track a register for me then, But now that
- 39:37Speaker 1: you say it, hmmm, that's a what kind yeah, exactly
- 39:42Speaker 1: what kind of a person would make create a hole
- 39:44Speaker 1: in somebody's master bedroom and then leave it like that
- 39:47Speaker 1: plastic putting plastic over or something. It just left a
- 39:50Speaker 1: giant hole.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Well, and maybe if you had a misfire with a hammer,
- 39:54Speaker 2: right like you got someone I mean, I guess the
- 39:57Speaker 2: idea is he was trying to start the project to
- 40:00Speaker 2: like expand the bedroom. But it's just like what But anyway,
- 40:05Speaker 2: I mean I can susp what's it called suspend belief?
- 40:09Speaker 4: Yeah, suspend disbelief, Yes, suspend disbelieve. But now we see
- 40:13Speaker 4: why he keeps failing the contractor exam.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Right, it's terrible. So anyway, we jumped over a scene
- 40:26Speaker 2: that I love so much, which is Rory and Emily
- 40:28Speaker 2: in the Jaguar and she's giving her her rules for
- 40:32Speaker 2: community service. Two you guys, lunchbox. Lunchbox, she says, turned out,
- 40:44Speaker 2: turned out, she's I don't know what that is. And
- 40:47Speaker 2: the shift and the whole I just was like, I
- 40:50Speaker 2: am dying. This is so funny. Here's your cigarettes to barter.
- 40:59Speaker 4: I can just see Emily walking into a liquor store
- 41:01Speaker 4: to buy cigarettes, the whole.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Thing, and then she's like, I don't know that it's
- 41:06Speaker 2: helping us here in the jag which I also just like, yeah,
- 41:12Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so good. Anyway, Okay, so we
- 41:21Speaker 2: should talk about the scene where Rory comes into the
- 41:23Speaker 2: diner and Scott I really want to just sort of
- 41:25Speaker 2: hear you because I don't know what Luke was supposed
- 41:29Speaker 2: to do.
- 41:33Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, he's in that strange kind
- 41:37Speaker 1: of in between place where you know, he's not her
- 41:41Speaker 1: stepfather yet, right, he's not. He's just been there her
- 41:48Speaker 1: whole life. He's just been there for her. So it's like,
- 41:53Speaker 1: you know, they have a closeness, but there's also a
- 41:57Speaker 1: bit I think he's so I think he's always been
- 42:01Speaker 1: so respectful of the closeness between mother and daughter that
- 42:06Speaker 1: he doesn't intervene without it being appropriate or asking permission
- 42:10Speaker 1: or you know, getting the go ahead from Laurele I.
- 42:14Speaker 1: So now that he's in a situation where clearly, you know,
- 42:17Speaker 1: she's in need of a little comfort, you know, a
- 42:23Speaker 1: shoulder to lean on or something. Yeah, because it's well,
- 42:29Speaker 1: you know, she didn't where else to go, yeah, right,
- 42:32Speaker 1: I mean he was the only one that has never
- 42:36Speaker 1: he's always been had her back and he's never been
- 42:39Speaker 1: judgmental of her. And yeah, I mean where else could
- 42:44Speaker 1: she go?
- 42:45Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she couldn't. She knew she couldn't go to
- 42:48Speaker 4: talk to laurel I. So Luke's was kind of that
- 42:50Speaker 4: buffer zone where she could be loral I adjacent and yeah,
- 42:57Speaker 4: kind of scope out the situation without having to actually
- 43:00Speaker 4: talk to Laurai.
- 43:02Speaker 2: What do you guys think she was going to say
- 43:05Speaker 2: to him?
- 43:06Speaker 1: Like?
- 43:07Speaker 2: What? What?
- 43:07Speaker 1: What?
- 43:08Speaker 2: What did she want to talk about?
- 43:09Speaker 1: Like is she going to say to I don't think
- 43:12Speaker 1: she knew what she was going to say. I think
- 43:14Speaker 1: she was just seeking some comfort and a familiar place
- 43:17Speaker 1: that was going to put her mind at ease or
- 43:19Speaker 1: a different She wanted to come back to Star's Hall.
- 43:22Speaker 1: I think this is a way. It's like the waiting
- 43:25Speaker 1: room for getting back into her mom's house and her
- 43:28Speaker 1: house and she grew up in, and maybe she was
- 43:31Speaker 1: hoping that her mother would be there. I don't know,
- 43:33Speaker 1: but interesting, comforting, warm place that's in Star's Hollow because
- 43:39Speaker 1: she had to get out of that poolhouse. I think she.
- 43:42Speaker 4: Wanted to know if Laura I was feeling as lost
- 43:46Speaker 4: as she was feeling, and so she was trying to
- 43:50Speaker 4: kind of figure that out without having to, you know,
- 43:54Speaker 4: just call Lorelai. And that's I think that's probably she
- 43:58Speaker 4: was just kind of putting her feelers out there to
- 44:00Speaker 4: to see what the what the environment was because she
- 44:02Speaker 4: was kind of feeling awkward and weird in this new
- 44:06Speaker 4: place in her life, and she was just trying to
- 44:08Speaker 4: see where Laurel I was with all of it.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Yeah, growing pains right, just lonely. She just needed a
- 44:15Speaker 1: she needed some stars hollow, She needed a dose of
- 44:18Speaker 1: stars hollow and yeah, she just needed to relax and
- 44:22Speaker 1: be able to breathe a little bit. Do you think
- 44:23Speaker 1: he will not feel so out of place because I
- 44:25Speaker 1: think she now feels really out of place. Yeah.
- 44:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything Luke? Do you think there's
- 44:32Speaker 2: anything Luke could have done? Like, could he have said, Rory,
- 44:37Speaker 2: you need to get it together. This isn't you. You
- 44:39Speaker 2: should go. Should he have been more firm with her
- 44:41Speaker 2: and said, you need to go back to Yale, you
- 44:44Speaker 2: need to finish your community service, you need to make
- 44:46Speaker 2: up with your mom. Like, I don't know, I don't
- 44:49Speaker 2: know him, He's that's not him.
- 44:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see him saying that directly to Rory.
- 44:56Speaker 4: I could because he always has let Laurel I drive
- 44:59Speaker 4: that bus, so I he may have been thinking it.
- 45:04Speaker 4: I think she caught him off guard when she should.
- 45:06Speaker 4: It was late at night, he was closing the diner,
- 45:08Speaker 4: and I think she just kind of caught him off guard,
- 45:10Speaker 4: and he was like, uh, I don't know what to
- 45:11Speaker 4: do with her, and yeah, yeah, but I don't know
- 45:16Speaker 4: that he would say that directly to her because he
- 45:19Speaker 4: always was kind of behind, you know, lined up behind Laurlai.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, It's not him to do it. Do you
- 45:30Speaker 2: how do you think Lorelai should have reacted with Luke
- 45:34Speaker 2: when she finds out he did tell her they're engaged,
- 45:37Speaker 2: And I get why he did. It just sort of
- 45:40Speaker 2: came out.
- 45:41Speaker 1: M hm.
- 45:44Speaker 4: I felt bad for Luke because he was right when
- 45:47Speaker 4: he said that he was caught in the middle. And
- 45:50Speaker 4: you know, laurel I in her mind it's just between
- 45:53Speaker 4: her and Rory, and she was kind of forgetting that
- 45:56Speaker 4: Luke has a stake in this too, because that affects
- 45:59Speaker 4: him as well, and so I think she needed to
- 46:04Speaker 4: take that into account. So I was glad that he
- 46:08Speaker 4: said that and pointed that out to her because then
- 46:10Speaker 4: she realized, oh, wait, you're right, this does affect you,
- 46:12Speaker 4: So then she could see his side a little bit more.
- 46:16Speaker 2: So, Scott, like, if you were.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Luke, I am Luke, not were I am?
- 46:25Speaker 2: Do you think he handled it right on the roof
- 46:29Speaker 2: sort of their little I call it a tiff? He
- 46:33Speaker 2: had handled it differently kind of telling her how he
- 46:36Speaker 2: told Rory about the engagement.
- 46:40Speaker 1: No, otherwise you wouldn't have had that great scene.
- 46:47Speaker 2: And this is where we have the frisbee.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Are you it's not it's not Seventh Heaven? Okay?
- 46:56Speaker 2: Are you?
- 46:57Speaker 1: It was on brand.
- 46:59Speaker 2: Known as a frisbee, an excellent frisbee player in frisbee circles.
- 47:04Speaker 1: My frisbee abilities are known throughout the universe. Yes, that's
- 47:08Speaker 1: why they wrote that in It's well known.
- 47:11Speaker 2: I wish you could remember how many times you had
- 47:13Speaker 2: to shoot that for her to catch it. Uh.
- 47:17Speaker 1: I think it was the first take, and then we
- 47:19Speaker 1: just went home rather standing ovation and off I went
- 47:23Speaker 1: into my frisbee glory yet again, So.
- 47:27Speaker 4: Were you really standing on the roof or was that
- 47:30Speaker 4: just to create a camera angle?
- 47:33Speaker 1: No? No, no, yeah, how do you recreate that?
- 47:36Speaker 2: That seems dangerous?
- 47:38Speaker 1: No, it's not that high.
- 47:41Speaker 2: It seems dangerous.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they you know, they have stunt people on there,
- 47:45Speaker 1: and they have safety people and and they check out
- 47:49Speaker 1: the roof or any loose shingles, and you know, I
- 47:53Speaker 1: don't know that there was a an air bag below
- 47:56Speaker 1: us if somebody had fallen off.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
- 47:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that they went to that extent.
- 48:01Speaker 2: But or what if you were harnessed somehow maybe No,
- 48:04Speaker 2: I don't know who. They look dangerous and Stars Hollow.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Wo. We do the risky stuff, man, That's why we
- 48:11Speaker 1: get the big bucks.
- 48:14Speaker 2: So then we then have the scene that actually, I
- 48:18Speaker 2: it was pretty intense. So Laura lies driving by and
- 48:22Speaker 2: she sees Rory picking up the trash, which for any
- 48:24Speaker 2: mother that would be rough, right, that's rough, and she
- 48:28Speaker 2: you turns it, pulls over and they kind of go
- 48:33Speaker 2: at it.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Were it both? Yeah, it's it's listen. They have they're
- 48:44Speaker 1: best friends and their mother and daughter, and now we're
- 48:47Speaker 1: seeing where that isn't working out well for either one
- 48:52Speaker 1: of them. But I think mothers and daughters and fathers
- 48:54Speaker 1: and sons that you know, have conflict. It's not uncommon, right,
- 48:58Speaker 1: And they're both you know that is Rory is uh
- 49:02Speaker 1: you know, grew up with that. She's got the same
- 49:07Speaker 1: sort of strength, right, She's her own Rory has been
- 49:11Speaker 1: always been her own person. She was taught to be
- 49:14Speaker 1: that way. She had that that glowing example of Laurel I,
- 49:18Speaker 1: you know, sticking her flag in the ground and Stars
- 49:21Speaker 1: Hollow and being independent and strong. Yeah, and so of
- 49:25Speaker 1: course you know she's going to be independent and strong,
- 49:28Speaker 1: which is what Laurel I wants wants for her daughter
- 49:31Speaker 1: to make her way through the world. So it was
- 49:35Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes between those two because it
- 49:37Speaker 1: again showed an aspect of the relationship that is completely
- 49:42Speaker 1: uh right on I mean on brand. As I've said before,
- 49:47Speaker 1: that that's what you're going to get, these two strong
- 49:50Speaker 1: women standing up to one another, and it's a necessary
- 49:54Speaker 1: step in a relationship, in any relationship is standing your ground.
- 50:01Speaker 1: So it just is a little more fraught with you know,
- 50:05Speaker 1: feelings when it's a mother and a daughter. Yeah, especially
- 50:08Speaker 1: for the audience to watch, because we've all been there
- 50:11Speaker 1: with our parents.
- 50:13Speaker 2: So you make great points. Yeah, I mean you're right, Like,
- 50:16Speaker 2: even though it's sort of like awkward and sort of
- 50:20Speaker 2: ouch to watch, right, you're right. She's not going to
- 50:23Speaker 2: pull over the car and be like, oh no, you're
- 50:26Speaker 2: picking up trash, and she's not gonna say I miss you, mommy,
- 50:30Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, I mean.
- 50:31Speaker 1: It shows how far the mighty have fallen and how
- 50:35Speaker 1: Rory is not fulfilling her potential and how quickly life
- 50:40Speaker 1: can change for you. Just the nature of life, and
- 50:43Speaker 1: it also is also emblematic of a right of passage
- 50:47Speaker 1: for mother and daughter. It's a necessary, necessary situation.
- 50:51Speaker 2: And do you think Rory, though she says, I can't
- 50:55Speaker 2: believe you got engaged and didn't tell me, I think
- 50:59Speaker 2: she's a little bit upset in the sense that Laurels thriving,
- 51:04Speaker 2: or at least it's perceived she's thriving. She's got you know,
- 51:07Speaker 2: she's she's happy, she's engaged. You know, her life is
- 51:12Speaker 2: going well. And Rory's is in the pooper right, like
- 51:15Speaker 2: she's just picking up trash on the side of the road.
- 51:17Speaker 2: She's bored now she's in the daar like. Maybe it's
- 51:20Speaker 2: partially she's like jealous in a sense that Laurela is
- 51:24Speaker 2: able to move on without her.
- 51:27Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got from that whole thing too,
- 51:30Speaker 4: is you know, she's a little bitter that Larela is
- 51:35Speaker 4: not as unhappy as she is, which, of course we
- 51:39Speaker 4: know underneath that Larela I is right sad about the riff,
- 51:44Speaker 4: but at least too from Rory's point of view, she
- 51:47Speaker 4: sees Laurel I moving on and so that would be distressing.
- 51:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think in a micro sense, Laurel.
- 51:56Speaker 1: I feels like, hey, kid, you didn't listen to me
- 51:59Speaker 1: about this huntsper thing. It's not the world you want
- 52:01Speaker 1: to be in. I warned you. I told you so,
- 52:04Speaker 1: now look at you. In the macro sense, it's her
- 52:09Speaker 1: Laurla having to come with terms with allowing her daughter
- 52:12Speaker 1: to make her own mistakes and then deal with the consequences.
- 52:15Speaker 1: So doesn't negate the fact that everybody's going to have
- 52:20Speaker 1: very strong feelings about it. Yeah, it's going to cause
- 52:22Speaker 1: some tension in the relationship, but that's that's life. They're
- 52:26Speaker 1: just living there. Everybody's living their lives, you know. So yeah,
- 52:31Speaker 1: it's it's a really really sort of uh dead on
- 52:37Speaker 1: portrayal that Dan wrote, you know, very very good writing,
- 52:41Speaker 1: very very good psychology.
- 52:44Speaker 2: So what do you think of the whole episode?
- 52:49Speaker 1: I just loved it. I just it's one of my
- 52:52Speaker 1: favorites because it was just so easy, breezy and I
- 52:58Speaker 1: just filled with the right kind of drama. There were
- 53:01Speaker 1: different levels of drama there was. It was all relationship
- 53:04Speaker 1: be drama, mother daughter, Luke, Laurele drama, sister drama. Yeah,
- 53:11Speaker 1: you know that all that stuff was was was there.
- 53:17Speaker 1: I don't know it just felt very full for me.
- 53:19Speaker 2: It was that.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt yeah totally. There was no interesting that,
- 53:28Speaker 1: there was no tailor, no Kirk right right, it was
- 53:33Speaker 1: just it was just they sort of focused on these
- 53:37Speaker 1: powerful relationships. It was it was a Luke, Laurel I, Rory,
- 53:41Speaker 1: Emily Richard, Emily Richard.
- 53:43Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, no Logan.
- 53:45Speaker 1: Not a slugfest, no Logan. You know, it was just
- 53:49Speaker 1: sort of.
- 53:50Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, it almost every scene is really about
- 53:54Speaker 2: those five people. Every scene. In fact, I don't know
- 53:56Speaker 2: why I'm saying almost it's really an episode that focus
- 54:00Speaker 2: is on the core five. Yeah, and I think that's
- 54:04Speaker 2: one reason I like it. Those are the five I
- 54:06Speaker 2: care about the most. I mean, I'm not saying I
- 54:08Speaker 2: don't love the others, but like obviously I love Logan,
- 54:11Speaker 2: but those five are what makes the show, especially now
- 54:15Speaker 2: that we're in season six.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Mm. Yeah, it was it was, it felt it felt really.
- 54:22Speaker 2: It's hard for me to have a favorite one. I
- 54:27Speaker 2: love this whole thing. I would say maybe the scene
- 54:29Speaker 2: where they're in the jag. Every single line there is great,
- 54:33Speaker 2: every single line TJ. I mean I don't really I
- 54:36Speaker 2: can't have one because I thought this script was really
- 54:42Speaker 2: really really good.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:44Speaker 2: I love them all, but this one for me, just
- 54:46Speaker 2: the whole thing, every zinger, every line, every everything.
- 54:52Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I think my favorite line was that
- 54:56Speaker 4: Hamster was defective.
- 55:07Speaker 1: What about Amy? What do you think I'm gonna I'm gonna,
- 55:12Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride on Susanne Susanne's coattails. I laughed out
- 55:15Speaker 1: loud on that line. I thought it was the best.
- 55:19Speaker 1: The best laugh in that whole episode was Laurel I
- 55:22Speaker 1: jumping on that one.
- 55:23Speaker 4: Yeah, the timing was perfect.
- 55:25Speaker 2: How about when Luke finds out about the hole and
- 55:27Speaker 2: he's all him kill t J, like not even sentences
- 55:31Speaker 2: like it was so that whole.
- 55:34Speaker 4: Bit about garrotting him and taking him to a ballgame like.
- 55:37Speaker 2: That was really and I forgot I do. I also
- 55:41Speaker 2: love when you Rory comes into the diner and you're
- 55:43Speaker 2: so awkward and you're like, you know, yeah, he wanted
- 55:47Speaker 2: to spiff it up. Spiff j.
- 55:54Speaker 1: Yeah, one one of my favorite episodes. Yeah, i'd say
- 55:58Speaker 1: top top five or which.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Is allegedly a bit of a miracle for season six
- 56:04Speaker 2: because people do not love season six, right.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Another word I would use for is very compact. You know,
- 56:12Speaker 1: it was air tight episode.
- 56:15Speaker 2: I'm giving it ten frisbees.
- 56:17Speaker 1: I am too, I'm giving it ten massive holes in
- 56:21Speaker 1: the master bedroom.
- 56:23Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a great episode. I'll just to be different.
- 56:27Speaker 4: I'll give it a nine point nine nine point nine
- 56:32Speaker 4: t J shops.
- 56:35Speaker 2: When you said how dare you? It made me want
- 56:37Speaker 2: to do and flashlight thingies. It was very Darth.
- 56:40Speaker 1: Bagerh Suzanne, you know exactly what to say. Talk about
- 56:52Speaker 1: stealing spotlight love it. Next episode, Season six, episode three,
- 56:56Speaker 1: The Ungraduate. So we're continuing our homage to Mike Nichols
- 57:04Speaker 1: wonderfully the graduate. Good good, good. Can't wait to see
- 57:07Speaker 1: it anyway. Uh, that's it. Thanks to say thank you, Amy, Uh.
- 57:12Speaker 2: Good performance, Scott good. Good performance in this episode.
- 57:16Speaker 1: Thank you really good, Thank you really good. Yeah. I
- 57:18Speaker 1: thought it was good. Yeah. I wasn't uncomfortable with any
- 57:20Speaker 1: of it.
- 57:21Speaker 2: And you had to do a lot, like you had
- 57:22Speaker 2: to be sweet and cute, you had to be romantic,
- 57:26Speaker 2: you had to deal with the dog. You have the
- 57:27Speaker 2: awkward scene with Alexis, you have the fight with Laura,
- 57:32Speaker 2: like you do it a lot, and it was good.
- 57:34Speaker 1: Yeah. I got to show a little bit of range
- 57:37Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, you know, and so thank you Dan
- 57:41Speaker 1: uh and uh that's going to do with best fans
- 57:44Speaker 1: on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming, uh
- 57:48Speaker 1: and the emails and the d ms and all that
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- 58:03Speaker 2: That's pretty rad, that's rare.
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