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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is Nick Offerman, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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- 1:05Speaker 2: We have a job to do now.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Let's do it.
- 1:16Speaker 4: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
- 1:19Speaker 5: I'm Beau.
- 1:20Speaker 6: I'm Fred.
- 1:21Speaker 4: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from... Ah,
- 1:23Speaker 4: what the hell did we call your place? We forget
- 1:25Speaker 4: every time.
- 1:25Speaker 5: What do we call it?
- 1:26Speaker 4: We forget on a regular basis.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We gave it a nickname. before yeah.
- 1:32Speaker 6: If only one of us listened to the show well.
- 1:35Speaker 7: I've listened to them all a billion times but it's
- 1:38Speaker 7: crossed over with the other thousands of episodes or it
- 1:41Speaker 7: feels like that so anyway fred's abode how about that.
- 1:47Speaker 6: Yeah i should have made a joke about it because
- 1:51Speaker 6: i always repeat every joke i've ever made on this
- 1:54Speaker 6: podcast in the next step.
- 1:55Speaker 4: Now those i do know yeah I've heard most of the...
- 1:58Speaker 4: I heard those before you started telling them.
- 2:00Speaker 1: I expect to hear trucks again before this episode is over. Yeah.
- 2:05Speaker 6: Do you remember when there was like a big elephant
- 2:07Speaker 6: in this room? And I did the joke about the
- 2:10Speaker 6: elephant in the room. It was like I bought that
- 2:13Speaker 6: for my son, Jim.
- 2:14Speaker 4: I think you bought it just to make that reference.
- 2:16Speaker 6: And he said, thanks, Dad. And I said, don't mention it.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I think they can work that in... See, you should
- 2:23Speaker 1: take pride in that. It's like the other day I
- 2:26Speaker 1: was at Kroger. And I was getting ready to walk in,
- 2:29Speaker 1: and they were doing some big remodeling and restructuring. And
- 2:34Speaker 1: a fellow who was like a clear Kroger manager, you know,
- 2:37Speaker 1: they'll have those days where there's 20 Kroger managers all
- 2:40Speaker 1: flitting around doing God knows what.
- 2:42Speaker 6: What do they do?
- 2:44Speaker 4: Rearrange the store.
- 2:45Speaker 6: Clocking.
- 2:45Speaker 4: That's the important part.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So it's like he had the two armloads of shelves underneath,
- 2:51Speaker 1: just carrying them in from this truck of supplies.
- 2:55Speaker 4: And.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I started to walk in about the same time he did.
- 2:59Speaker 1: And you had that awkward moment. So who's going to
- 3:00Speaker 1: go through the door first. And I stopped and I said, Oh,
- 3:03Speaker 1: you can go ahead. I'm not shellfish. And he just
- 3:08Speaker 1: like nodded and walked. And I just wanted to go
- 3:11Speaker 1: and find him and be like, okay, now.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Did you, did you get the joke?
- 3:16Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 4: And you just didn't find it funny. Or did you
- 3:19Speaker 4: not get the joke?
- 3:20Speaker 1: Cause I'm really proud of like just the right moment
- 3:23Speaker 1: that that, Dude, I saw you at.
- 3:26Speaker 6: A grocery store one time, and you were in the
- 3:29Speaker 6: self-checkout lane, and something messed up, and the girl said,
- 3:34Speaker 6: what did you scan? And you had the little liquor balls,
- 3:39Speaker 6: and you said, I just scanned my balls.
- 3:42Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I'm proud you saw that.
- 3:45Speaker 6: I was glad to be there. I was glad just
- 3:48Speaker 6: to be there for that moment, and she did not.
- 3:51Speaker 6: Find that amusing.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It's like I just exist for bad puns.
- 3:54Speaker 6: So many of my life's decisions have been pun-based. It's
- 3:59Speaker 6: really weird when I think about it. I was trying
- 4:02Speaker 6: to get a gift for my friend when he turned 60.
- 4:06Speaker 6: And I was either going to get him Old Forrester
- 4:10Speaker 6: or I was going to get him... There's this Irish liquor,
- 4:15Speaker 6: Slain Irish Whiskey. And I'm like, Old Foe for an
- 4:19Speaker 6: old friend. slain, I can't do anything with.
- 4:27Speaker 5: That.
- 4:27Speaker 4: I do the same.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Like I'll be buying ties and I, I found one
- 4:31Speaker 1: that had like a decoration. It was like a novelty
- 4:33Speaker 1: tie of an ice cream Sunday. And I thought, you
- 4:36Speaker 1: know what? I, I'm going to wear this purposely on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
- 4:39Speaker 1: any of these days. And anyone who comments on how
- 4:41Speaker 1: much they like it, I'm going to be like, I
- 4:43Speaker 1: appreciate compliment, but typically this is not a title to
- 4:46Speaker 1: wear on a day like this. So that way they
- 4:48Speaker 1: can be like, Oh, when would you wear it on
- 4:50Speaker 1: a Sunday? I think, how can I... I want to
- 4:54Speaker 1: buy this just so I can walk people into a
- 4:57Speaker 1: stupid pond.
- 4:58Speaker 6: Yes, I know.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Way too much effort. It's a way of life.
- 5:01Speaker 1: It is a way.
- 5:02Speaker 7: It is.
- 5:03Speaker 4: And the more you... The thing is, the.
- 5:04Speaker 1: More you do it, the more natural they just sort
- 5:08Speaker 1: of flow forth.
- 5:09Speaker 4: Wow.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Do people hate you for it?
- 5:12Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 5:13Speaker 1: I think, wasn't it Wilde who'd made some statement along
- 5:18Speaker 1: the line of like a... What was it? The success
- 5:22Speaker 1: of a pun is in direct correlation with its insufferability
- 5:26Speaker 1: or some statement like that.
- 5:28Speaker 6: I know Bernard Shaw in one of his plays said,
- 5:32Speaker 6: All the best puns have been made. It remains only
- 5:36Speaker 6: to achieve the worst.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I mean, that is their only point, right? If there's
- 5:42Speaker 4: a good pun, what's the point? It's only good when
- 5:46Speaker 4: it's painful, I assume.
- 5:47Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 5:51Speaker 7: It's a job in and of itself. You see how
- 5:54Speaker 7: we went right into it.
- 5:55Speaker 6: Speaking of segues.
- 5:58Speaker 7: We were writing one earlier today.
- 6:02Speaker 9: We're going to do the grind, y'all.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Got you where I want you.
- 6:11Speaker 9: Girl, that thing is going to.
- 6:13Speaker 4: Be so good.
- 6:14Speaker 9: So good.
- 6:15Speaker 7: So this is to get into again. It's been a
- 6:19Speaker 7: long time since we've had a version of the grind.
- 6:23Speaker 7: Occasionally we throw out a specific question and the topic,
- 6:27Speaker 7: and then we go down that road and several other
- 6:30Speaker 7: horrible tangent avenues. But yeah, only occasionally. So if you'd
- 6:35Speaker 7: like to, I did find our ongoing list. So now
- 6:38Speaker 7: we can dig back into some of those. But if
- 6:40Speaker 7: you want to add one, throw one at us, you know,
- 6:43Speaker 7: email in, let us know. But this one came originally
- 6:47Speaker 7: the concept many, many years ago, which I'll get to
- 6:50Speaker 7: in a minute. But the general idea is just jobs
- 6:55Speaker 7: in movies, either interesting jobs or the more you think
- 7:00Speaker 7: about it, the weirder it gets that a job exists
- 7:02Speaker 7: because of that. So there's several I have in that
- 7:06Speaker 7: little area of weird jobs that only exist in the
- 7:08Speaker 7: alternate reality that is this specific movie.
- 7:12Speaker 4: So I have those two.
- 7:14Speaker 7: But the one that originally inspired it, I remember sitting...
- 7:19Speaker 7: And it's funny, it goes back so far. When I
- 7:21Speaker 7: was thinking about it today, I was like, I didn't
- 7:23Speaker 7: even have a job the first time I saw this movie.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Are you familiar with the movie Offbeat?
- 7:28Speaker 2: No.
- 7:31Speaker 7: It's a fine 1980s vehicle starring Judge Reinhold. Back when
- 7:36Speaker 7: things starred Judge Reinhold, that's a pretty narrow number of
- 7:40Speaker 7: movies that.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Not your side character... starring judge reynolds.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Pre or post fast times.
- 7:46Speaker 7: It would have been post it's about 86 i believe
- 7:49Speaker 7: and it's again it's them really trying to put him
- 7:52Speaker 7: out there as the lead in a movie so the
- 7:54Speaker 7: concept in this is.
- 7:55Speaker 1: That was a fairly vain effort i mean he i
- 7:58Speaker 1: don't get me wrong i like him but he's funny
- 8:00Speaker 1: he's not a leading man.
- 8:02Speaker 7: Yeah i mean even in even in this movie he's
- 8:05Speaker 7: it's like the it's a big enough concept that like
- 8:08Speaker 7: you're fine you're more or less on board with The idea,
- 8:11Speaker 7: because once it's set in motion, you just kind of
- 8:13Speaker 7: have to write it out. Ruthless people, that was one good.
- 8:17Speaker 6: That was a good one.
- 8:18Speaker 4: Other people's money. It's hard to put Danny DeVito in
- 8:20Speaker 4: a lead.
- 8:21Speaker 6: He was selling those music speakers.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:26Speaker 6: But also, he took his job very seriously in Fast Times.
- 8:30Speaker 6: That was part of the whole character thing.
- 8:33Speaker 7: Yeah, that's definitely one we can return to. But this one,
- 8:38Speaker 7: his main job in the initial part is the more
- 8:40Speaker 7: important part to me. The entire gimmick of the movie
- 8:44Speaker 7: is his friend is a cop. So he like screws up.
- 8:48Speaker 7: I was trying to like it's been years since I've
- 8:51Speaker 7: seen it. So I'm trying to even remember what the
- 8:53Speaker 7: real part of it was. I think he like messes
- 8:55Speaker 7: up a bust or something. And then like he's in
- 8:57Speaker 7: trouble with his friend and he owes him a favor.
- 8:59Speaker 7: So his friend gets cast in some like charity event
- 9:03Speaker 7: they're doing where the cops have to like sing and dance.
- 9:05Speaker 7: And he's like a manly man and he obviously doesn't
- 9:07Speaker 7: want to do that. So he convinces his friend to
- 9:10Speaker 7: go in place of him and just do this little
- 9:13Speaker 7: song and dance number. And then along the way, he.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Gets mistaken for an actual cop because he's wearing a uniform.
- 9:19Speaker 4: And then hilarity ensues.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Speaking of good puns, offbeat.
- 9:23Speaker 4: That's really clever.
- 9:24Speaker 6: There you go.
- 9:25Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's definitely.
- 9:28Speaker 7: Of the mistaken identity, pretending to be something you're not,
- 9:32Speaker 7: which is another subsection I'll get to later. But, yeah,
- 9:35Speaker 7: that's like its own subsection of film in general. But
- 9:39Speaker 7: the most important part was, I remember in the beginning
- 9:42Speaker 7: of the movie, he's at his real job. Now, I'm
- 9:44Speaker 7: assuming this is New York, because most movies take place
- 9:46Speaker 7: in New York. Because he works in a huge public library.
- 9:51Speaker 7: His job, because it's such a big library that they
- 9:55Speaker 7: can't even put all the books out on the shelves there,
- 9:57Speaker 7: he's in the basement of the library... and they have
- 10:01Speaker 7: people that come up to the counter and like want
- 10:03Speaker 7: to request a specific book and then they send it
- 10:05Speaker 7: down to him and his job is to go get
- 10:08Speaker 7: that book so he spends all day by himself in
- 10:11Speaker 7: the basement wearing roller skates and headphones listening to music
- 10:15Speaker 7: rolling around getting books and taking them to people and
- 10:18Speaker 7: never really coming in.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Contact with That sounds pretty cool.
- 10:22Speaker 4: Even that early on, I was like, that seems like the.
- 10:25Speaker 7: Best job ever. You're just kind of by yourself. You're
- 10:28Speaker 7: doing your own thing. You can listen to whatever you want.
- 10:31Speaker 7: You got roller skates if you want. So everything about that,
- 10:35Speaker 7: I was like, this is a great job.
- 10:37Speaker 1: It's almost sort of like what you were describing at
- 10:39Speaker 1: the art gallery, but without roller skates.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Well, it depends on the day of the week.
- 10:46Speaker 6: Except we had to deal with so many crazy people.
- 10:50Speaker 6: That's just, we're a parade route for lunatics. No, really,
- 10:56Speaker 6: we were. It was just crazy. And even the people
- 11:00Speaker 6: that weren't lunatics were just super annoying. We had like
- 11:06Speaker 6: two double doors and one was locked and the other
- 11:09Speaker 6: one wasn't. And it had a sign that said pull.
- 11:13Speaker 6: And people would come up and pull on the locked door.
- 11:17Speaker 6: And then switch and then try to push the other door.
- 11:20Speaker 7: Sure.
- 11:20Speaker 6: And then they reverse it a couple of times and
- 11:22Speaker 6: they just stand out there and like wave at you.
- 11:24Speaker 4: And shrug and be like.
- 11:25Speaker 6: And I just wave back.
- 11:27Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 11:28Speaker 6: I was a jerk.
- 11:29Speaker 7: In school for the mentally gifted.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:32Speaker 6: But I have a friend who actually works in a
- 11:34Speaker 6: library and it's super stressful.
- 11:36Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. I know a couple of people now that
- 11:38Speaker 7: do and they're not thrilled with it. And the one
- 11:41Speaker 7: that I go to, which is nearby.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Okay.
- 11:44Speaker 4: There is a lady there now. Because that's the thing.
- 11:46Speaker 7: I'm still kind of like, doesn't seem like the worst job.
- 11:48Speaker 7: Even now I'd probably take it if it wasn't so
- 11:50Speaker 7: much trouble to get on there. And they just massively
- 11:52Speaker 7: cut our budget here. I'm assuming across the country, but
- 11:55Speaker 7: definitely here. But yeah, the lady that's at the.
- 11:58Speaker 4: One I go to now.
- 11:59Speaker 7: Because now they've become like the de facto rental store.
- 12:03Speaker 4: Because they now have like.
- 12:04Speaker 7: Way more DVDs than I assumed that they would. And
- 12:08Speaker 7: get like newer titles than I would expect them to get.
- 12:11Speaker 4: It's weird.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Even like.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Out by me, the Shepherdsville Library, the first time I
- 12:17Speaker 1: just happened, after Walden Woolley closed, I thought, ah, I'll
- 12:21Speaker 1: go see what DVDs they got. And I walk in,
- 12:23Speaker 1: I'm like, they've got all these Criterion films. How often
- 12:27Speaker 1: are they getting checked out? And I'm like, I don't care.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Occasionally there's brand new releases. I'm like, wait, somebody ordered
- 12:35Speaker 4: this here?
- 12:36Speaker 6: What the hell?
- 12:37Speaker 4: Or really weird stuff that I'm like, I can't believe
- 12:39Speaker 4: you guys even know what this is. Who's doing the
- 12:42Speaker 4: ordering here? So, yeah, just as a movie geek, I
- 12:44Speaker 4: was like, I want to investigate this.
- 12:47Speaker 7: But the lady at the counter, oh, my God. Like,
- 12:50Speaker 7: she's just, to look at her, your typical old librarian lady,
- 12:55Speaker 7: she doesn't speak.
- 12:57Speaker 4: She barely looks at you. Even if you talk to her,
- 13:01Speaker 4: she doesn't respond back.
- 13:03Speaker 7: And, like, and this is what's taking up one of
- 13:04Speaker 7: the few jobs you guys have.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Like, if you'd like to keel over and let me
- 13:08Speaker 4: take the spot, I mean, feel free, but. Yeah, so
- 13:11Speaker 4: this is what you're dealing with now in the library.
- 13:13Speaker 7: There's no roller skates on here. It's really a letdown
- 13:15Speaker 7: is what I found.
- 13:16Speaker 6: You don't remember Seth from where we used to work,
- 13:19Speaker 6: do you?
- 13:20Speaker 7: I don't think so. Mostly it was just you and
- 13:22Speaker 7: I and that other crazy guy. So I rarely crossed
- 13:26Speaker 7: over with other people.
- 13:27Speaker 6: Well, he went on to work at the library. He was,
- 13:29Speaker 6: when we were casting the movie of where we worked,
- 13:34Speaker 6: he was the one guy we never found anybody for
- 13:36Speaker 6: because he was actually better looking than than any actor
- 13:40Speaker 6: you could think of and it just seemed like everything
- 13:43Speaker 6: was a downgrade and you're supposed to get bumped up
- 13:45Speaker 6: if you're played by somebody and i mean.
- 13:48Speaker 7: Why is he hauling stuff around for a job i
- 13:50Speaker 7: don't know he's supposed to be a pretty boy.
- 13:53Speaker 6: Model or something yeah he really should have been but
- 13:55Speaker 6: he you know he was a interesting guy um but
- 14:01Speaker 6: yeah he he works at the library and uh And
- 14:05Speaker 6: is very intense, intellectual, over my head.
- 14:10Speaker 4: That backfires on you.
- 14:12Speaker 7: So that's originally what set me down this road. And
- 14:15Speaker 7: for a long time, it just sat in the back
- 14:17Speaker 7: of my head as like, wow, that still seems like
- 14:20Speaker 7: a pretty fun job. And then we got to this
- 14:22Speaker 7: many years later. I was like, well, hell, this just
- 14:24Speaker 7: seems like an episode waiting to happen. So here we are.
- 14:30Speaker 7: So do you want to throw.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Out other options or I have?
- 14:35Speaker 7: I got carried away and made a list of a
- 14:37Speaker 7: lot of things as I did preparing for this episode.
- 14:40Speaker 6: Well, I had misunderstood and thought we were going to
- 14:43Speaker 6: be talking about greatest moments in film. And so I
- 14:47Speaker 6: thought about that for a while. I think I.
- 14:50Speaker 4: You suggested that. I did.
- 14:52Speaker 6: And we were trying to set up the time and
- 14:54Speaker 6: you said sounds good. About the time when we were
- 14:57Speaker 6: going to get together. And I thought, oh, are we
- 14:59Speaker 6: going to go with... I was just like tossing that
- 15:02Speaker 6: out to get the ball rolling. Now I got to
- 15:04Speaker 6: think of something. And all I really had for it was, uh,
- 15:09Speaker 6: you know, one of my usual jokes. I had this
- 15:11Speaker 6: joke that when I try to think of the greatest
- 15:15Speaker 6: moments in film, four or five of them are in
- 15:18Speaker 6: the anniversary party. And one of them, uh, is now
- 15:24Speaker 6: I'm going to try to use all the movies I
- 15:25Speaker 6: was going to talk about in terms of greatest moments,
- 15:28Speaker 6: but in terms of jobs, um, One of them is
- 15:32Speaker 6: when Kevin Kline is trying to worm his way into
- 15:35Speaker 6: this movie that's getting made. And he says, but that guy,
- 15:40Speaker 6: he doesn't have any gravitas. It's like it's written for
- 15:42Speaker 6: a 20-year-old. Come on. You can't play. It's like, but
- 15:46Speaker 6: that guy doesn't have gravitas. And he goes, and you
- 15:49Speaker 6: have gravitas. And he says, I have gravitas out the wazoo.
- 15:55Speaker 6: And the thing I love about that, it kind of
- 15:57Speaker 6: relates to the idea of that the only secret in
- 16:01Speaker 6: magic is that it's an ugly secret. Because if it
- 16:05Speaker 6: was a beautiful secret, everybody would tell it. But it's
- 16:08Speaker 6: an ugly secret, nobody's proud of it, and so they
- 16:11Speaker 6: keep the secret amongst themselves. And that's kind of what
- 16:16Speaker 6: acting is like. The guy knows he can project gravitas,
- 16:21Speaker 6: but in real life, he's just the kind of guy
- 16:23Speaker 6: who says, I have gravitas at the wazoo.
- 16:26Speaker 4: That's also a line... Only specific people could pull off.
- 16:30Speaker 4: Kevin Kline being one of those, thankfully. Because that could
- 16:32Speaker 4: go horribly wrong with the wrong actors.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:36Speaker 6: Yeah, and the other one is that, you know, speaking
- 16:38Speaker 6: of jobs and fast times, Phoebe Cates came out of
- 16:43Speaker 6: retirement for that movie. Mm-hmm.
- 16:47Speaker 4: Is she in retirement?
- 16:49Speaker 6: To play an actress who didn't work anymore.
- 16:53Speaker 4: It's Kevin Kline's fault.
- 16:54Speaker 6: And I believe she came out just to do the
- 16:57Speaker 6: PSA about when you have kids, you can't just put
- 17:01Speaker 6: your head in an oven anymore. And I think she
- 17:04Speaker 6: looks directly.
- 17:05Speaker 4: Into the camera.
- 17:06Speaker 6: She's like, I'll do this role if you let me
- 17:09Speaker 6: do this public service announcement that nobody warns you when
- 17:13Speaker 6: you have kids. That you can't just end it anymore.
- 17:17Speaker 6: You have to go on. So that was that. One,
- 17:23Speaker 6: do you remember the movie The Wrestler?
- 17:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:28Speaker 6: I thought that was an interesting one because it's about
- 17:32Speaker 6: the job of being a pro wrestler, but it's also
- 17:36Speaker 6: about how this guy just keeps doing this job that's
- 17:39Speaker 6: killing him. And he just keeps... And I remember that.
- 17:43Speaker 4: We all feel like that, right?
- 17:44Speaker 10: Right, yeah.
- 17:45Speaker 6: And it's very compelling. I think that's what made it
- 17:49Speaker 6: a good movie in a way. It's like everybody can relate.
- 17:52Speaker 6: You just keep doing this thing that's killing you.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Within it, one of my favorite scenes, both in it
- 17:58Speaker 1: as well as any Aronofsky film, is when he's at
- 18:02Speaker 1: this VFW hall for signing autographs.
- 18:06Speaker 7: And.
- 18:07Speaker 1: He's excited to meet what fans he gets, but there's
- 18:10Speaker 1: like a dozen people that show up over the course
- 18:12Speaker 1: of the day. And there's just this really quiet little
- 18:15Speaker 1: moment where he looks around the room and he just
- 18:17Speaker 1: sees some of the other wrestlers at the tables just
- 18:21Speaker 1: sitting there waiting for someone to show up, like one
- 18:23Speaker 1: is in a wheelchair. It's this visual representation as to
- 18:29Speaker 1: how physically debilitating the role is for very little payoff.
- 18:37Speaker 1: And it's almost sort of sad, but for him, it's
- 18:42Speaker 1: part of what he kind of lives for. I feel
- 18:45Speaker 1: like that little scene in and of itself just speaks
- 18:48Speaker 1: so much to the character as well as just to
- 18:52Speaker 1: the particular role that he takes on.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:55Speaker 6: I think that was about the time when conservationists warned
- 19:00Speaker 6: that the last drops of pathos had been extracted from
- 19:05Speaker 6: Mickey Rourke. and that we had to just sort of
- 19:08Speaker 6: like find other sources. There was a, but there, I
- 19:13Speaker 6: wanted to pair that movie with another movie, which is
- 19:17Speaker 6: like a, a movie about a kid in high school
- 19:21Speaker 6: called Hadley's rebellion. And I think it's a really good
- 19:26Speaker 6: little movie, but it was about a kid who did
- 19:28Speaker 6: like wrestling in high school and he's very good. And
- 19:32Speaker 6: he's going to like tournaments. Um, um, But it sort
- 19:38Speaker 6: of highlights how, you know, after college, you know, there's
- 19:42Speaker 6: nowhere to go with wrestling. There's pro wrestling.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Pro is a whole different thing.
- 19:46Speaker 6: There's no real pro wrestling.
- 19:49Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 19:52Speaker 6: I really liked it as a movie for young people
- 19:54Speaker 6: because it didn't condescend. It didn't have a message. It's
- 20:03Speaker 6: the way I am with kids. It's like, well, we're
- 20:07Speaker 6: both on a planet at the same time. And, and it,
- 20:15Speaker 6: I don't want to spoil it, but it goes to
- 20:17Speaker 6: an odd place for, for a movie for young people.
- 20:20Speaker 6: It's not, you know, it's not what you would expect.
- 20:24Speaker 6: And I thought it was, I was surprised by it.
- 20:27Speaker 6: I was surprised how, how well written and well done and,
- 20:31Speaker 6: and acted too. I don't remember who the kid was
- 20:34Speaker 6: in the role, but he was, utterly convincing um there
- 20:39Speaker 6: was no uh like fourth wall presentation he just it's
- 20:44Speaker 6: like you were following this kid.
- 20:45Speaker 7: Around that is one of the like again like all
- 20:48Speaker 7: the different subsections i came into like kind of compiling
- 20:52Speaker 7: all this it's like there is a lot of them
- 20:55Speaker 7: that like what's more interesting about the movie as a
- 20:58Speaker 7: whole sometimes is just because it gives you this little
- 21:01Speaker 7: window into a career that maybe nobody you know other
- 21:04Speaker 7: than a handful of people that do it nobody quite
- 21:07Speaker 7: knows what it's like so it's like there is a
- 21:10Speaker 7: lot of movies titles in general that you can do
- 21:14Speaker 7: that's why i was kind of like if you want
- 21:16Speaker 7: to do like nothing but cop movies we'll be here
- 21:18Speaker 7: all day you know it's like cops and detectives and
- 21:21Speaker 7: like all of these like you know even weird medical
- 21:25Speaker 7: that becomes you.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Got me curious so i looked him up and his
- 21:28Speaker 1: name is griffin o'neill and it looks like the most
- 21:30Speaker 1: recent thing he did after that was ghoulies 3 oh
- 21:35Speaker 1: my god looks like he's just someone that just disappeared.
- 21:39Speaker 11: That killed him he's killed him it's one of those
- 21:43Speaker 11: movies that i like that probably didn't do what another
- 21:46Speaker 11: one was like the stone boy I've.
- 21:49Speaker 4: Heard you tell me about this one.
- 21:50Speaker 6: Great movie.
- 21:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:51Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned this on the show before.
- 21:53Speaker 6: People who are in it just laugh at what a
- 21:55Speaker 6: disaster it was. It's like, that's a great movie. I
- 21:59Speaker 6: think I've seen it a couple of times. But yeah,
- 22:05Speaker 6: there's that tendency, I think, for some professions, like cop movies,
- 22:10Speaker 6: some professions just become a rote thing.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Like, I feel like when it comes to most films
- 22:19Speaker 1: that are following protagonists that are in the military, it's
- 22:22Speaker 1: like I've seen that film a dozen times over.
- 22:26Speaker 4: And yet they keep making those.
- 22:29Speaker 1: School teacher ones, too. It's like they always have to
- 22:32Speaker 1: be just annoyingly cloying.
- 22:36Speaker 7: I had one of those, but again, it was a
- 22:40Speaker 7: little unusual. because i've never had the uh then this
- 22:44Speaker 7: will be different for you i've never had the interest
- 22:47Speaker 7: to become a school teacher and i question i'm related
- 22:50Speaker 7: to one and i'm like what what are you thinking
- 22:51Speaker 7: stop what are you doing but if ever there was
- 22:54Speaker 7: one that was like all right maybe this summer school
- 22:58Speaker 7: mr shoops got a handle on it just kind of
- 23:01Speaker 7: comes to school in like your serp gear and has
- 23:05Speaker 7: the summers off except this year because he got suckered
- 23:07Speaker 7: into summer school and doesn't really have to teach any
- 23:10Speaker 7: real classes in this scenario like everything else about his
- 23:14Speaker 7: version of being a teacher is not at all being
- 23:17Speaker 7: a teacher i'm like all right this guy he knows
- 23:19Speaker 7: what he's doing but most other teachers i don't get.
- 23:22Speaker 4: It so you definitely bring something different to.
- 23:24Speaker 1: That well and the funny and now all of a
- 23:26Speaker 1: sudden you've got me thinking like what is the most
- 23:29Speaker 1: realistic depiction depiction of teachers in film from my perspective
- 23:35Speaker 1: of being one election.
- 23:36Speaker 6: I election is such a great movie actually election that
- 23:42Speaker 6: is not a bad suggestion because they do.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Not in the way that every teacher is wanting to
- 23:51Speaker 1: have a relationship with their kids but like there's that
- 23:54Speaker 1: one scene to where she's sort of talking Reese Witherspoon's
- 23:58Speaker 1: character is talking about how sad she thinks it is
- 24:01Speaker 1: that he does the same thing and they have that
- 24:03Speaker 1: montage where it's just showing him over the years explaining
- 24:06Speaker 1: you know the executive branch the judicial branch and like
- 24:09Speaker 1: it just keeps fading into him doing the same thing
- 24:12Speaker 1: and it feels like that sometimes i saw that i
- 24:15Speaker 1: was like okay that that's fair and and the fact
- 24:18Speaker 1: that he's brought down by the janitor yeah the janitors
- 24:23Speaker 1: are janitors yeah i was gonna say school janitors are
- 24:27Speaker 1: kind of vindictive yeah then.
- 24:30Speaker 4: You go to breakfast club That's a great little moment.
- 24:33Speaker 6: Lon Chaney was usually like a school janitor or something.
- 24:38Speaker 6: It was like this little nerd as monster.
- 24:41Speaker 4: He could play working class pretty well.
- 24:43Speaker 7: Yeah, he definitely could pull that off.
- 24:45Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know. School teacher is one that
- 24:47Speaker 4: never clicked with me.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I would say, actually, out of all the stuff I've seen,
- 24:52Speaker 1: the one where I can watch it with teacher friends
- 24:54Speaker 1: and we laugh are like, they got that stereotype teacher
- 24:58Speaker 1: on pretty spot on is the show Vice Friends. principles
- 25:01Speaker 1: that HBO has done. I've watched that and I suspicion
- 25:06Speaker 1: that somebody on that show knows teachers or was a
- 25:11Speaker 1: teacher because they get all the hip trends spot on.
- 25:15Speaker 1: And oddly enough, The Simpsons. A lot of The Simpsons
- 25:18Speaker 1: references they will make about education, that's so spot on.
- 25:23Speaker 6: They're still hitting some things pretty good. They've had a
- 25:26Speaker 6: lot of Lisa episodes lately, so they done education things
- 25:31Speaker 6: i have a movie story about someone who is getting
- 25:35Speaker 6: a master's in education and one of their classes wanted
- 25:39Speaker 6: them to go watch go watch this movie and write
- 25:43Speaker 6: about it and it was music of the heart and
- 25:47Speaker 6: it was.
- 25:47Speaker 7: Uh isn't that wes craven no it's one of the
- 25:51Speaker 7: horror guys didn't know no.
- 25:54Speaker 1: It was uh yeah music of the heart is wes craven.
- 25:57Speaker 4: It's like a weird offshoot like one of the only
- 25:59Speaker 4: times he did not it.
- 26:01Speaker 6: Is is it Meryl Streep yeah oh okay yeah it
- 26:04Speaker 6: is it's a weird offshoot movie yes okay well it
- 26:07Speaker 6: was that movie okay I might as well say it
- 26:10Speaker 6: was Lynn was in the program and she comes home
- 26:13Speaker 6: another weird teacher person and she says like she was
- 26:17Speaker 6: going through this master's thing and I had to be
- 26:19Speaker 6: tech support for it which was like a full-time job
- 26:23Speaker 6: so she comes home she says oh I'm supposed to
- 26:25Speaker 6: watch this movie uh, music of the heart and write about,
- 26:28Speaker 6: and I'm like, um, did, are you, do they have
- 26:33Speaker 6: it in class? Are you going to, no, I'm just
- 26:36Speaker 6: supposed to rent it. I'm like, give me the phone,
- 26:38Speaker 6: give me the phone. Cause it was right when all
- 26:41Speaker 6: the video stores were losing VHS and stuff wasn't out
- 26:47Speaker 6: on DVD. And I called all over town and it's
- 26:51Speaker 6: nobody had it. No, we do have it, but it's rented. Okay. Um, has,
- 26:56Speaker 6: Fourth place I called, they're like, why do people keep
- 26:59Speaker 6: calling about that movie? And we found it over in
- 27:03Speaker 6: the West End somewhere, and I drove there and caught it.
- 27:07Speaker 6: And she was supposed to write something about the educational
- 27:14Speaker 6: techniques that the teacher used in the movie. And I
- 27:17Speaker 6: saw the movie, and the only thing she ever does
- 27:20Speaker 6: is say, you're playing the wrong notes. Stop it.
- 27:24Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 27:25Speaker 6: That's the only, what do they call that? Pedagogical.
- 27:31Speaker 1: If you're going to get a musical teacher movie that
- 27:35Speaker 1: provokes dialogue, Whiplash really falls into there. I watch it
- 27:43Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are teachers that exist like that.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Damien Chazelle, I know he said that it was based
- 27:53Speaker 1: on a teacher, but It feels kind of like sort
- 27:57Speaker 1: of an exaggeration at points. And part of me kind
- 28:00Speaker 1: of wonders when it comes to that particular film, if
- 28:04Speaker 1: the teacher, the J.K. Simmons character, isn't even supposed to
- 28:06Speaker 1: be taken face value, literally. Like, you're almost seeing him
- 28:12Speaker 1: filtered through the perception of the student. Because, you know,
- 28:16Speaker 1: from that teacher role, like a lot of the time,
- 28:18Speaker 1: if a parent calls because they– something that you said
- 28:23Speaker 1: or did in class, it gets filtered through the telephone
- 28:27Speaker 1: game by the time it comes back to you. It's
- 28:29Speaker 1: weird to hear how your motivations as a teacher and
- 28:33Speaker 1: what you do gets translated by others. And so I
- 28:36Speaker 1: was kind of wondering if on Whiplash, you're not seeing
- 28:39Speaker 1: a character as in he's doing all these things for real,
- 28:43Speaker 1: so to speak, but rather this is just the The
- 28:46Speaker 1: perception of the student.
- 28:47Speaker 6: The point of view.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:48Speaker 1: So basically you're watching the entire film from the point
- 28:52Speaker 1: of view through a potentially unreliable narrator.
- 28:55Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point. I had that experience with
- 28:59Speaker 6: my own kids one time. My daughter told this story
- 29:03Speaker 6: about when I was yelling at her about something. But
- 29:07Speaker 6: it was a text conversation, so I had the transcript.
- 29:10Speaker 6: And I said, so you tell your version of what
- 29:14Speaker 6: I said. And I'm going to read the transcripts and
- 29:17Speaker 6: all this. There was no yelling at her involved, I
- 29:20Speaker 6: was asking her. But she felt like it was very,
- 29:24Speaker 6: you know, I don't know.
- 29:25Speaker 7: It's all presentation.
- 29:27Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 29:27Speaker 6: That was very gratifying. That was a great day. I
- 29:32Speaker 6: had like... Aha!
- 29:34Speaker 12: Gotcha!
- 29:35Speaker 6: Another representation of the teacher that I saw recently... was
- 29:40Speaker 6: an SNL short parody of a teacher who shows up
- 29:45Speaker 6: like down at some back alley and the student, this
- 29:51Speaker 6: black student comes out and says, oh, you looking for me? Well, yeah.
- 29:56Speaker 6: It's like, because I didn't take that test. Well, Okay,
- 30:01Speaker 6: you think I have so much potential? Yeah, you do
- 30:04Speaker 6: have potential. He says, so, like what? You're going to
- 30:09Speaker 6: make me go to Harvard?
- 30:12Speaker 4: No, Harvard, no.
- 30:15Speaker 6: And it turns out, actually, the teacher's down there to
- 30:17Speaker 6: buy mushrooms. And the kid just happened to be there.
- 30:22Speaker 6: He says, you think I'm some kind of genius? Well,
- 30:26Speaker 6: the word genius gets tossed around a lot. Yeah, that
- 30:31Speaker 6: was pretty good. And it was Pete Davidson who also
- 30:33Speaker 6: was in their parody of, oh, we have to talk
- 30:38Speaker 6: about Robin Williams if.
- 30:39Speaker 4: We're talking about jobs in movies.
- 30:42Speaker 6: Because he went through that phase where every job was
- 30:45Speaker 6: about being a comedian.
- 30:47Speaker 4: And forced in when it didn't fit most of the time.
- 30:50Speaker 6: Yeah, dead poet society.
- 30:52Speaker 7: That's what I was thinking as you were talking about it.
- 30:55Speaker 7: That's kind of one of the initial ones that started
- 30:57Speaker 7: that trend of like, The inspiring teacher.
- 31:01Speaker 4: And it kind of hit all those. And the rest
- 31:03Speaker 4: of it I feel like is okay. I feel like
- 31:05Speaker 4: you could go all the way back.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I feel like it starts with Asphalt Jungle.
- 31:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And then it got effectively remade as, oh God, Sidney Poitier.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Why am I going blank?
- 31:18Speaker 13: To serve with love well then it becomes one of
- 31:21Speaker 13: the two it's either the super inspiring teacher or it's
- 31:25Speaker 13: the fish out of water trying to teach the kids
- 31:27Speaker 13: that don't want to be taught it's kind of those
- 31:29Speaker 13: two different versions of it or.
- 31:35Speaker 6: The Antonio Banderas where he's teaching ballroom dancing to inner
- 31:39Speaker 6: city kids I saw that at the theater and for
- 31:42Speaker 6: the first 15 minutes they had the aspect ratio wrong
- 31:48Speaker 6: And so it was like about this squat little dwarf
- 31:51Speaker 6: teaching ballroom dancing to all these little munchkin kids in
- 31:57Speaker 6: the inner city.
- 31:58Speaker 4: People would watch that.
- 31:59Speaker 6: And I was watching with my daughter, and I'm like,
- 32:02Speaker 6: I have to do something about it. Everybody was just
- 32:04Speaker 6: watching it. Everybody was just going to go for this ride.
- 32:07Speaker 4: What do you have? Problems with dwarf people? She's like,
- 32:09Speaker 4: don't make a scene.
- 32:10Speaker 1: It's like in a zombie. In a scene, go up,
- 32:12Speaker 1: push a button, and it rotates the lens.
- 32:14Speaker 6: So I had to go tell him, come back. And
- 32:18Speaker 6: then And then when it changed, everybody in the audience goes, ah.
- 32:23Speaker 4: Thank God.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Now, from the perspective of a teacher, really, like, it's,
- 32:27Speaker 1: you know, it's about 25% in the classroom and about
- 32:30Speaker 1: 75% at the grocery and someone walking up.
- 32:35Speaker 7: Hey, Mr.
- 32:35Speaker 6: Kalen. Hey.
- 32:38Speaker 7: What's up?
- 32:39Speaker 1: And then there's that pause where it's like, okay, this
- 32:42Speaker 1: is obviously a former student. Who is this? You know,
- 32:48Speaker 1: the first couple years are not bad, but by the
- 32:49Speaker 1: time you've gotten into double digits, like, I've got a
- 32:53Speaker 1: few thousand, like, I don't remember.
- 32:57Speaker 6: Yeah, I called all my art students Guy. Male or female. Hey, Guy.
- 33:03Speaker 6: How you doing, Guy? Why do you call everybody Guy?
- 33:06Speaker 6: I don't know, Guy. The only kid I remembered, her
- 33:11Speaker 6: name was Serene, and she was not the least bit serene.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:17Speaker 7: Well yeah i mean we had your your dangerous minds
- 33:21Speaker 7: and like that or then it became the principle like
- 33:24Speaker 7: literally in the principle or you're lean on me or
- 33:27Speaker 7: like everything became this like inspiring like story for yeah
- 33:31Speaker 7: again usually it became some weird inner city somebody thrown
- 33:34Speaker 7: in that doesn't normally do this and somehow they're gonna
- 33:38Speaker 7: change it and yeah i don't know that any of
- 33:39Speaker 7: that is i mean i guess some version of that
- 33:41Speaker 7: has to be going on out there but I don't
- 33:43Speaker 7: know how accurate any.
- 33:44Speaker 4: Of those are.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I don't know who it's marketed to, though. Because, I mean,
- 33:50Speaker 1: as a lot of, like, students, you know, you watch
- 33:52Speaker 1: that and it's like, this is fun, but this is
- 33:54Speaker 1: obviously a romanticization.
- 33:55Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 33:57Speaker 1: And as teachers, it's just like, no. So, like, I
- 34:00Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who those are marketed to,
- 34:04Speaker 1: but I don't know. We've veered off course, haven't we?
- 34:08Speaker 4: Well, we've done a lot of teachers. We can go
- 34:10Speaker 4: to other.
- 34:11Speaker 7: Again, I started coming up with ones that were, like
- 34:14Speaker 7: I said, that only seemed weird when you stopped and, like,
- 34:18Speaker 7: stepped away from the plot and were like, all right,
- 34:22Speaker 7: not only is this going on, but there are people
- 34:24Speaker 7: that have to have jobs based around this. One of
- 34:29Speaker 7: the first ones that came to mind is Oldboy. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.
- 34:35Speaker 7: Either version, there is essentially like a motel.
- 34:39Speaker 4: Somebody has to keep that running. Like, that's a business, essentially.
- 34:43Speaker 7: It's an off-the-grid kind of a business, but yeah, there's
- 34:46Speaker 7: somebody that brings food. There's somebody that finds new weird
- 34:50Speaker 7: ways to torment people, and that's their job.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Actually, I really like, in the Korean version, I really
- 34:59Speaker 1: like the guy who runs the hotel.
- 35:02Speaker 7: Yeah. I.
- 35:03Speaker 1: The entire scene to where he ends up being involved
- 35:08Speaker 1: in the double cross. And it turns out that he
- 35:13Speaker 1: was perfectly willing to give up his hand for the
- 35:16Speaker 1: thing he basically spent. He's like, no, I got a
- 35:18Speaker 1: whole brand new building out of the deal. He's just like, yeah,
- 35:21Speaker 1: it seems like a fair trade. I get a new building,
- 35:23Speaker 1: take my hand. It speaks volumes to just.
- 35:29Speaker 6: Take my hand.
- 35:29Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 35:32Speaker 4: I mean those are the ones the more i thought
- 35:34Speaker 4: about it was like that that.
- 35:36Speaker 7: Only exists within the world of this movie yeah or
- 35:39Speaker 7: that you just have to have people that go in
- 35:41Speaker 7: and just clean the rooms yeah like and you have
- 35:44Speaker 7: regular stuff doesn't register or they just have gotten to
- 35:47Speaker 7: the point they don't care anymore they're just like whatever
- 35:50Speaker 7: this guy's knocked out we can go in and finish
- 35:52Speaker 7: clean up the room and take this out and do
- 35:54Speaker 7: whatever horrible thing we're about to do well it's.
- 35:56Speaker 1: Funny you mentioned that because like one of the ones
- 35:58Speaker 1: that i had was um and it centers around Leeds,
- 36:01Speaker 1: is the cleaning ladies from The Shape of Water. I
- 36:03Speaker 1: like the fact that she's got this creature in this
- 36:05Speaker 1: government facility, but it's like, no, we still need cleaning.
- 36:08Speaker 4: I still got to mop the floor, so whatever. Yeah,
- 36:10Speaker 4: you still need to.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Clean the bathrooms.
- 36:13Speaker 6: That's such a gorgeous movie. Oh, my God.
- 36:17Speaker 7: The other recent one that was along those same lines
- 36:20Speaker 7: for me is, now it's a trilogy, but the entire
- 36:24Speaker 7: world that exists in John Wick... like literally to the
- 36:27Speaker 7: point they have their own currency like it is its
- 36:31Speaker 7: own completely off the grid underground civilization kind of that
- 36:37Speaker 7: sort of makes no sense if you think about it
- 36:39Speaker 7: too much because especially by the time you get the
- 36:41Speaker 7: second one suddenly everyone in the free world is a
- 36:44Speaker 7: bounty hunter that gets a text and is off to
- 36:47Speaker 7: go kill someone but Again, I'm just thinking of like
- 36:50Speaker 7: when he goes to the hotel set up or he
- 36:53Speaker 7: goes to the restaurant or like there's all these people that.
- 36:55Speaker 4: Are still seemingly doing a normal job. But it's, again,
- 37:00Speaker 4: like in this weird place that doesn't exist in reality.
- 37:05Speaker 7: Even in the confines of this movie, normal people don't
- 37:08Speaker 7: know that this is here. But yet you still have
- 37:10Speaker 7: to get up and go to work every day and
- 37:12Speaker 7: bus tables while there's like hitmen all around you going
- 37:16Speaker 7: off to have their own adventures. This poor idiot's got
- 37:18Speaker 7: to clean up the table. So that's another one of
- 37:21Speaker 7: those that just like the more and more I'm like, yeah,
- 37:24Speaker 7: somebody's making the beds in that hotel.
- 37:43Speaker 2: I'm going to explode.
- 37:46Speaker 9: I've had it.
- 37:47Speaker 8: I lie around, keep me on.
- 37:48Speaker 3: I don't do nothing.
- 37:50Speaker 12: I just hang around.
- 37:53Speaker 14: Waiting for a call from the dollar when I fall.
- 37:57Speaker 6: I'm going to explode.
- 38:01Speaker 7: I've had it.
- 38:03Speaker 2: It's all you.
- 38:04Speaker 8: I've got to take no more abuse.
- 38:08Speaker 9: I found the fucking lions.
- 38:10Speaker 3: Oh, I'm losing my mind.
- 38:13Speaker 9: Oh, I'm going to explode. Oh, hey, give it up
- 38:19Speaker 9: for James. I'm in a little mess. I'm playing guitar
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- 44:46Speaker 17: You might say it sets the tone for the entire visit.
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- 45:40Speaker 1: Hi, this is Robert Hayes, and I'm listening to Movie Meltdown.
- 45:44Speaker 8: It's part of your problem, you know.
- 45:55Speaker 5: You haven't seen enough movies.
- 45:57Speaker 1: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
- 46:01Speaker 8: And now, on with the show.
- 46:10Speaker 14: Every one of you we got a lot a lot
- 46:14Speaker 14: a lot a lot of work to do forget about
- 46:18Speaker 14: your women and that water can't today you're working.
- 46:25Speaker 4: For the man.
- 46:34Speaker 10: Well, pick up your feet We've got a deadline to
- 46:37Speaker 10: meet I'm gonna see you make it on time Now,
- 46:41Speaker 10: don't relax I want elbows and.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Backs I want to see everybody.
- 46:46Speaker 10: From behind Cause you're working for the man Working for
- 46:52Speaker 10: the man Gotta make him a hand When you're working
- 46:58Speaker 10: for the man.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Well, and when you first threw out this concept, man,
- 47:10Speaker 1: it can go in a lot of different directions. Because
- 47:12Speaker 1: I started to think about just documentaries that are focused
- 47:15Speaker 1: on people with odd jobs. Both Werner Herzog and Errol
- 47:20Speaker 1: Morris love people like that. And so you mentioned, oh,
- 47:24Speaker 1: somebody's got to take care of the trash, whatever, in
- 47:26Speaker 1: this odd place. Encounters at the End of the World
- 47:29Speaker 1: that Herzog digged, or he went to Antarctica. And he's
- 47:31Speaker 1: talking to just, you know, cafeteria workers garbage men it's
- 47:35Speaker 1: just like you know you could do this job in
- 47:39Speaker 1: america you wanted to find out like what what what
- 47:41Speaker 1: drives you to go to effectively the middle of nowhere
- 47:45Speaker 1: to do the same low hourly rate job that you
- 47:50Speaker 1: could do anywhere else and you know i think my
- 47:55Speaker 1: favorite moment of that, you know, there, there's a couple
- 47:57Speaker 1: of cool moments. I love that you've got somebody that
- 47:59Speaker 1: trains people what to do in the event of a
- 48:02Speaker 1: whiteout blizzard. So like everybody's wearing those buckets over their
- 48:07Speaker 1: heads and they're just out in the middle of the
- 48:10Speaker 1: plane and they're, they're trying to simulate like, how would
- 48:12Speaker 1: you get back to camp if you just happen to
- 48:13Speaker 1: be a few hundred feet away and suddenly it was
- 48:15Speaker 1: whiteout conditions and you don't wander off. Like you've got
- 48:18Speaker 1: somebody that trains people like he, he is a teacher
- 48:22Speaker 1: in that class. Um, but, when he talks to the
- 48:26Speaker 1: fellow who's like the Diane Fossey of penguins, it was
- 48:29Speaker 1: like my favorite little moment in it. Cause they, they
- 48:31Speaker 1: warn him. They're like, you're not going to get anything
- 48:33Speaker 1: out of this guy. Like he doesn't talk to anyone.
- 48:36Speaker 1: And you even hear Herzog's narration talking about how he
- 48:39Speaker 1: tried in vain for like an hour or something to
- 48:41Speaker 1: get this guy to say anything. And finally he was
- 48:43Speaker 1: just like, does prostitution exist within the penguin society? And
- 48:50Speaker 1: it's love that this fellow just kind of like, And finally,
- 48:54Speaker 1: for the first time, he's like, well, actually, there are
- 48:57Speaker 1: occasions where suddenly he got interested because he went from
- 49:01Speaker 1: asking these mundane questions just, all right, I'm going to
- 49:03Speaker 1: go to this end of the spectrum, which Herzog is
- 49:06Speaker 1: very good at doing.
- 49:08Speaker 4: And so he asks.
- 49:09Speaker 1: About prostitution amongst penguins, homosexuality, and then insanity. And I
- 49:15Speaker 1: love that that whole sequence ends with this wide shot of...
- 49:20Speaker 1: of just a parade of penguins walking and this one
- 49:23Speaker 1: penguin at the end of the line just like stops
- 49:27Speaker 1: and he just stands there for a few minutes just
- 49:29Speaker 1: like staring at the ground while the rest of the
- 49:31Speaker 1: group walks away and all of a sudden the penguin
- 49:33Speaker 1: like does this 90 degree turn to face the distant
- 49:36Speaker 1: mountains and it holds its two wings out and just
- 49:38Speaker 1: starts running like top speed towards the mountain and just
- 49:42Speaker 1: runs off into the distance. I'm like, it's just such
- 49:45Speaker 1: a beautiful shot. As, as Herzog is doing this narration
- 49:48Speaker 1: about like what insanity has gripped this penguin, you know,
- 49:52Speaker 1: for all I know, Herzog just shot a gun off
- 49:54Speaker 1: camera and they muted that out just to get it.
- 49:56Speaker 6: But he does that in other movies. Like I was
- 49:59Speaker 6: watching Cave of Forgotten Dreams recently and, One of the
- 50:03Speaker 6: guys he's talking to says, well, I'm a scientist, but
- 50:07Speaker 6: I'm also a human being. Before this, I was in
- 50:13Speaker 6: the circus field, juggling.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Herzog loves to just poke. He's like, there's something here.
- 50:20Speaker 7: Yeah, that is what he does. Where anybody else would
- 50:25Speaker 7: stop the questioning, he's like, Leave it running for an
- 50:29Speaker 7: extra minute here to see what happens. And it's always
- 50:32Speaker 7: something like, wait, what did they just say?
- 50:36Speaker 1: But Errol Morris did that film, Mr. Death. Did you
- 50:42Speaker 1: ever see that?
- 50:43Speaker 7: No, the title?
- 50:44Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen it. The full title, I think,
- 50:47Speaker 1: is Mr. Death, the Rise and Fall of Fred A.
- 50:51Speaker 1: Luchter Jr. And it is.
- 50:55Speaker 1: This biopic that focuses on this man to where he
- 50:59Speaker 1: was effectively an expert at execution, like the, the current
- 51:05Speaker 1: lethal injection.
- 51:06Speaker 4: Machine, the.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Gals, like all these things. He, he did not invent them,
- 51:13Speaker 1: but he was brought in, uh, To make them more efficient.
- 51:17Speaker 1: And he saw himself as like a humanitarian because he's like, no,
- 51:21Speaker 1: I'm saving people.
- 51:22Speaker 6: I read about them.
- 51:23Speaker 4: Extra suffering.
- 51:24Speaker 1: 30 seconds to extra suffering. And then he like got
- 51:28Speaker 1: roped into the odd like thing that arose. And I
- 51:32Speaker 1: guess it was the late 80s, early 90s where it
- 51:35Speaker 1: was like the Holocaust denial group. And so they took him.
- 51:38Speaker 6: He became like an educated fool. He thought he knew.
- 51:41Speaker 4: Because they took him to.
- 51:43Speaker 1: The remains of, I think Auschwitz or somewhere. And he
- 51:45Speaker 1: was like testing bricks to look for residue of nerve
- 51:50Speaker 1: gas or something. And he was like, I couldn't find
- 51:53Speaker 1: any proof. And it was, it was basically him admitting
- 51:56Speaker 1: his own ignorance and it turned him into basically spun
- 52:01Speaker 1: as like Holocaust. And so then the rest of the
- 52:03Speaker 1: film follows like how no one would get him to
- 52:05Speaker 1: come work on their electric chairs anymore because it's, It's
- 52:10Speaker 1: a really bizarre biopic of this guy who had an
- 52:13Speaker 1: incredibly weird job to begin with. Or gallows. I remember
- 52:19Speaker 1: watching it and I was like, they still do gallows?
- 52:23Speaker 6: I was in a museum of antique tools once. Oh,
- 52:30Speaker 6: I forget what it's called, but it's in New Jersey.
- 52:33Speaker 6: It's a three-story poured concrete building. And some guy who
- 52:38Speaker 6: made his fortune in tile, Spanish decorative tile, started collecting
- 52:44Speaker 6: all these tools, and you could just walk through it,
- 52:46Speaker 6: and there was nobody working there. It was just like
- 52:49Speaker 6: heartbreaking little signs saying, please don't steal. And we would
- 52:58Speaker 6: come across things and try to figure out. There was
- 53:00Speaker 6: no text to explain. You would just find these weird
- 53:03Speaker 6: things and go, what is that? And one guy I
- 53:07Speaker 6: was walking around with found a kalimba, like the African
- 53:11Speaker 6: thumb piano. He's like, what does that do? And I'm like, oh,
- 53:15Speaker 6: I know that. Hippies used to have those. But then
- 53:20Speaker 6: we went into this thing that seemed like a hayloft,
- 53:25Speaker 6: you know, with a trap door. But it was super fancy.
- 53:29Speaker 6: And we were like, what is a gallows? We're standing
- 53:34Speaker 6: in a gallows. And that was like an old 19th
- 53:38Speaker 6: century tool.
- 53:39Speaker 4: Somebody had to come up with that.
- 53:40Speaker 1: But yeah, Errol Morris, he did a couple focusing on
- 53:43Speaker 1: odd jobs too because he did Gates of Heaven. I
- 53:45Speaker 1: guess that was late 70s, early 80s. It focused on
- 53:48Speaker 1: the pet cemetery business.
- 53:50Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 53:51Speaker 1: And I don't know. It's not really focused on anything.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Vernon, Florida? Vernon, Florida is legit.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Like we were talking about how Herzog would just let
- 54:03Speaker 1: the camera run. Vernon, Florida is.
- 54:08Speaker 1: It's this almost experimental documentary where the camera is just
- 54:11Speaker 1: pointing at crazy people in a backwoods, middle-of-nowhere town. There's
- 54:17Speaker 1: a camera on the old men sitting in front of
- 54:19Speaker 1: the barbershop. There's another old crazy guy just out in
- 54:22Speaker 1: front of a gas station. There's this guy who likes
- 54:25Speaker 1: to hunt alligators and turkey vultures. All these things in
- 54:30Speaker 1: a swamp. And I don't think he's asking them any questions.
- 54:34Speaker 1: I think he just put the camera on them and
- 54:36Speaker 1: just said, go. And they ramble about UFOs and all
- 54:39Speaker 1: this crazy stuff. And it almost becomes like this indirect
- 54:45Speaker 1: documentary on just like really small town America, because you
- 54:51Speaker 1: just watch it. It's like, I've come across that crazy
- 54:53Speaker 1: person before. Like not that specific one, but yeah. Oh, that,
- 54:59Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:02Speaker 6: For anybody interested, I found the museum I was in
- 55:05Speaker 6: one time. It's Mercer Museum in Doylestown.
- 55:08Speaker 4: A photo of it.
- 55:09Speaker 1: It does look like it's loaded with stuff. What's the state?
- 55:13Speaker 6: Doylestown, Pennsylvania.
- 55:14Speaker 3: Ah.
- 55:15Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 55:16Speaker 1: So then you can maybe do a double trip of
- 55:19Speaker 1: that and the Mütter Museum.
- 55:21Speaker 3: Oh.
- 55:22Speaker 6: Because that's... Well, I was in New Jersey, but we
- 55:25Speaker 6: drove over there, I guess. I don't know.
- 55:26Speaker 19: Right.
- 55:27Speaker 6: I was doing like a museum mount making workshop. It
- 55:31Speaker 6: was my first week of work at the Speed Museum.
- 55:33Speaker 6: It was training me how to make little things to
- 55:36Speaker 6: hold things.
- 55:38Speaker 4: To make art float.
- 55:39Speaker 6: Even then, I made decisions based on puns and stuff.
- 55:44Speaker 6: A guy was trying to show a ladle so you
- 55:49Speaker 6: would display it in a museum setting. I said, oh,
- 55:53Speaker 6: it's a ladle cradle. The verbal relationship of the mount
- 55:58Speaker 6: to the object is something you forget about.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Did you ever have anyone really compliment you on how
- 56:03Speaker 1: you'd mounted something at the museum and said, I appreciate
- 56:06Speaker 1: the compliment, but you really don't have to put me
- 56:08Speaker 1: on a pedestal like that.
- 56:09Speaker 6: There you go.
- 56:10Speaker 5: Yikes.
- 56:13Speaker 4: Of the documentaries, I'm ignoring all of these puns. I'm
- 56:15Speaker 4: trying to think who it was that did the Documentary
- 56:22Speaker 4: on Hitler's secretary.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Oh, I don't remember.
- 56:25Speaker 4: But now that. I mean, there's a mundane job. Blind spot.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Because everybody's seen the whole Renaud Gans, rest in peace,
- 56:36Speaker 1: film Downfall. Because that came out in 2005. And then
- 56:40Speaker 1: shortly thereafter, Hitler freaking out when he realizes he's losing
- 56:45Speaker 1: the war. That turned into an early internet meme where
- 56:48Speaker 1: people would put captions up. But no, I remember.
- 56:52Speaker 1: I, well, I remember working at the movie theater and
- 56:56Speaker 1: we got that Max, which was this film starring, um,
- 57:03Speaker 1: John Cusack tour. Like he was, um, I want to
- 57:07Speaker 1: say an art dealer trying to save paintings from Nazis
- 57:10Speaker 1: or something. And amen, which was a German film about
- 57:14Speaker 1: like this priest who was taking confessions from SS officers
- 57:18Speaker 1: working in a concentration camp like we had all three
- 57:22Speaker 1: films come out within the same month and i remember
- 57:24Speaker 1: we put the posters side by side by side and
- 57:28Speaker 1: we joke.
- 57:28Speaker 19: We're like it's springtime for hitler because it was like
- 57:31Speaker 19: march you know but i remember blind spot though that's
- 57:35Speaker 19: one that's another one where the camera was just on
- 57:39Speaker 19: this ancient woman as she was hitler's secretary like she
- 57:44Speaker 19: was in the bunker and she's telling all these stories
- 57:47Speaker 19: about how she just listened to um Goebbels and the
- 57:51Speaker 19: rest of them talk about, well, if you're going to
- 57:53Speaker 19: kill yourself with a gun, you need to make sure
- 57:55Speaker 19: you angle the gun this way in your mouth and
- 57:57Speaker 19: not this way in your mouth. They're talking about the
- 57:59Speaker 19: best way to kill the children.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Like, you get really gripped into this, like, because everybody
- 58:04Speaker 1: gets sort of fascinated by, you know, their grandma telling stories. Like,
- 58:08Speaker 1: it could be anybody's grandma. I'm going to get roped in.
- 58:11Speaker 1: So it's like, man, this grandma's got some really hairy tails.
- 58:15Speaker 4: Dark times for grandma.
- 58:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:20Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's an Italian movie that's a good
- 58:23Speaker 6: example of a job, because it's Il Posto. It's basically
- 58:28Speaker 6: about a kid getting a job. And he, like, wants
- 58:33Speaker 6: to go to school, but he has to go to
- 58:34Speaker 6: work so his little brother can go to school. So
- 58:38Speaker 6: he has to go try to get this job, and
- 58:40Speaker 6: he has to jump through all these hoops to get
- 58:42Speaker 6: this job. And it's a very sad movie. I'm trying
- 58:47Speaker 6: to be careful about spoilers, but Yeah, there's some.
- 58:51Speaker 7: I was like, we can discuss the overall, but not
- 58:54Speaker 7: the specifics.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Well, no, one I've got that actually, it's like one
- 58:57Speaker 1: of my favorite, like, fun little jobs that actually turns
- 59:01Speaker 1: out to be a spoiler in a film. So, spoiler warning,
- 59:04Speaker 1: is an anomaly the fact.
- 59:06Speaker 6: That yeah oh i love that yeah that.
- 59:08Speaker 1: You've got like she's got this mystery that's driving her
- 59:11Speaker 1: through so much of the film or she doesn't know
- 59:13Speaker 1: like why is it that or why i'm sorry the
- 59:17Speaker 1: the one fellow who's like collecting all these photo booth
- 59:19Speaker 1: shots and this one guy just keeps showing up and
- 59:23Speaker 1: all these like torn up pictures underneath where he's just
- 59:26Speaker 1: staring just blanking the camera And you get that great
- 59:29Speaker 1: reveal at the end where it's just like, no, it's
- 59:31Speaker 1: the photo booth repairman. And it's just they're all test photos.
- 59:34Speaker 6: That's a lovely little mystery. I love stuff like that.
- 59:38Speaker 1: It's a fun little mystery around a job you wouldn't
- 59:41Speaker 1: think that exists, but obviously has to.
- 59:44Speaker 6: I've done jobs similar to that. I've done photo tech stuff.
- 59:48Speaker 6: I used to process like a thousand rolls of film
- 59:52Speaker 6: every night. It was a night job, and they'd just
- 59:55Speaker 6: go flying by. And then I'd have to print them
- 59:57Speaker 6: and cut them. And, uh, and it was, uh, a weird,
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: cause it was like the old 35 millimeter. And, and
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: I saw so many photos that people took that I
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: started to see that people take the same photos.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Well, and I'm sure you, have you seen one hour photo?
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: You're also insane. Yeah.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Because he, he does have that whole thing to where
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: he talks about, it's like people take the same photo.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: It's almost as if, you know, they have to prove
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: to themselves, like I was here.
- 1:00:28Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: I existed.
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: Especially now.
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: Well, I mean, there are some in the vacation spots
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: that are like a Kodak spot. But even apart from that,
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: there's just certain things that people do. And, of course,
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: one of my favorites, there was an art school nearby.
- 1:00:46Speaker 6: And every night there would be a roll of pictures
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: of a girlfriend in a bathtub. And always the interesting
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: thing about it, And, you know, she was always a
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: good sport and a lot of, like, nude photos. And
- 1:00:59Speaker 6: then at the end, though, there was always a picture
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: of the dude. And it was always blurry and it
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: was always his face. Every one of them. And I'm like, what?
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: All I could figure was at some point she, like,
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: he took all these photos and she was like, oh,
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: let me take one of you. And it was a
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: blurry picture.
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: Of this dude.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: Because she didn't know how to work the aperture.
- 1:01:20Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 1:01:21Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: But it was a weird phenomenon that happened over and
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: over again.
- 1:01:26Speaker 7: That's the other one. I guess we're coming back to
- 1:01:30Speaker 7: Minnie in this one movie. That's the two of my
- 1:01:33Speaker 7: favorite characters in Summer School. But to me, it's more
- 1:01:37Speaker 7: of a time capsule. They work at that little tiny
- 1:01:39Speaker 7: room out in the parking lot where you used to
- 1:01:42Speaker 7: drop off your film. And that was their favorite thing,
- 1:01:44Speaker 7: was waiting for the artsy guy to come along and
- 1:01:47Speaker 7: take pictures of naked girls.
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: And then they'd make duplicate copies. So I'm assuming you
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: were also doing that.
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: No, I didn't do that. But anything that I said,
- 1:01:55Speaker 6: like the color wasn't good, they would reprint. And so
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: if there was something that I wanted to keep, then
- 1:02:02Speaker 6: I could just make it a reprint and tell them,
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: do it over. The color wasn't good enough. And there
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: were some. There was one that was just like a
- 1:02:11Speaker 6: super green yard with a bucket and a fish in it.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: And I'm like, ooh, portrait of my soul. Make me
- 1:02:19Speaker 6: one of those. I still got that somewhere.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:22Speaker 6: And there was a whole roll that was like photos
- 1:02:25Speaker 6: at like a super rich person's wedding. And somehow they
- 1:02:28Speaker 6: were all blurred to where they were almost like abstract cartoons.
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: And it's like keeping that. And I've got a perfect alibi.
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: These are messed up. They got to redo them. But yeah,
- 1:02:43Speaker 6: it was fun. I did keep a lot of those.
- 1:02:45Speaker 6: Some of them were just like such cool images.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Because I take a lot of 35. photos not as
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: much now just because it's it's a little bit harder
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: to get processed but you do have all those bad
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: messed up shots and you get maybe one or two
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: per roll or something i got to where i started
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: putting them into a separate photo album so i've got
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: one or a couple photo albums that are just all
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: the blurred overexposed like yeah the frame is shifted out
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: of whack like and to me i almost like flipping
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: through that more than i do the ones that i
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: did well because i'm like Some of them, you don't
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: know what you did. You don't know how to duplicate that.
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: You couldn't take that photo if you wanted to, and
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: that makes.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: It kind of more interesting. Instagram filters pre-Instagram, but unintentional.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: I remember one time I accidentally left a roll of
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: film in my top dress shirt pocket, and then it
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: went through the washer, went through the dryer, and it
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: came out. I was like, oh, crap. And when it
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: got processed, all these weird... multi-colored nicks and like the
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: colors had kind of blurred i was like that's gorgeous
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: i want to start washing my film.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: Wash your phone try that with your phone.
- 1:03:59Speaker 6: Film washer yeah yeah.
- 1:04:01Speaker 7: Well then you get ones that like idealize it and
- 1:04:04Speaker 7: make things that are probably already cool jobs seem like
- 1:04:08Speaker 7: the coolest job and on that note that was one
- 1:04:10Speaker 7: of mine too is just looking through some of the
- 1:04:12Speaker 7: more classic Rear window makes being a photographer seem like
- 1:04:17Speaker 7: the coolest thing in the world. Everything he does before
- 1:04:21Speaker 7: the mystery end of it starts is just like, here's
- 1:04:23Speaker 7: all these pictures of me off in these foreign countries.
- 1:04:26Speaker 7: And I'm always, you know, taking off around the world
- 1:04:29Speaker 7: to take these great things.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: And like everything about.
- 1:04:31Speaker 7: Him seems like the coolest guy ever, even before he starts,
- 1:04:34Speaker 7: you know, solving a mystery.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: And I love, that's just, that's just great filmmaking there too,
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: where you, you don't, That is your exposition. It's just
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: that pan around. And then you just see this really
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: cool shot of the car on the racetrack midair, and
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: then you cut over to him in the cast. It's like, okay.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: I know why he's in a cast. I know what
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: he does for a living. And nothing has been said.
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: If that job in Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind was real,
- 1:05:06Speaker 6: where people could come and erase everything, I would have
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: people come and erase Rear Window from my memory so
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: I could just watch it for the first time over
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: and over. Just find that spot, you know, and get
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: rid of it.
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: I did watch it on the big screen in the
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: last year or so, and it's kind of a rediscovery.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: An aside for a future discussion is, and I've thought
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: about this before, too, we had these discussions in the
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: movie theater, is if you could go back in time
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: and see a film upon original release and have the
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: ability to have not seen it before.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: Within your lifespan or pre? Or both.
- 1:05:41Speaker 7: Both.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: We can add that to the list.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: But, no, I'm sitting here looking over my list and
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: kind of going back to talking about just jobs in
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: odd places. And it's like somebody has to do it.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: Beyond the Black Rainbow. Like, to me, Beyond the Black
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: Rainbow is weird that this obvious concept This facility probably
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: had a big cult following in the 60s. And now,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: flash forward to 20 years later, it's just forgotten about.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: The people that even live around it don't know it exists.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: I can get the girl being imprisoned. I get, basically,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: the Barry character. He's like the heir to whatever weirdness
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: is going on. But then you have the nurse technician.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: And upon re-watching that recently, I'm like, is she getting paid? Like,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: I just kind of wonder, like, she comes in every day, so, like,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: she's not there 24-7. She doesn't live there. She's obviously just, like,
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: working an hourly job to where she just comes in,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: gives food or whatever to this imprisoned girl, and then
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: goes up and monitors her, and then goes home.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: Like, what an odd.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: And she's the one and only other person there. Like,
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: she's the only person that seems to be running the place.
- 1:06:58Speaker 7: And....
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to follow that character home
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: just because it really intrigues me that she's not part
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: of this grandmaster scheme. But she knows something weird as
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: hell is going on that everyone else has forgotten about.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: But still, it's just like nine to five.
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I just recently watched Glass.
- 1:07:20Speaker 7: Did you see?
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: I mean, it's basically the same.
- 1:07:23Speaker 7: Well, because we focus so much within this hospital thing,
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: of all three of these characters from the previous movies
- 1:07:29Speaker 7: are all there now, but cause it's midway in and
- 1:07:32Speaker 7: I'm just like, are there other people in this hospital?
- 1:07:36Speaker 7: And finally you, I guess realize like this is a
- 1:07:38Speaker 7: weird forgotten wing where they just brought the, because later
- 1:07:42Speaker 7: on they're like, they're, you know, weird things are happening.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: And I'm like, where's the other people?
- 1:07:47Speaker 7: And there are, but they're often like a massive hallway
- 1:07:50Speaker 7: tunnel that goes to the rest of the weird giant
- 1:07:54Speaker 7: hospital but like this area that they're in there's two
- 1:07:56Speaker 7: orderlies so of course we get the window of them
- 1:08:00Speaker 7: being total jackasses because that's you know one in particular
- 1:08:04Speaker 7: has to be a jerk to everybody because we have
- 1:08:07Speaker 7: to have that little window into there's always somebody at
- 1:08:09Speaker 7: one of these especially like mental institution or something there's
- 1:08:13Speaker 7: always somebody like taking advantage of their position so yeah
- 1:08:16Speaker 7: we get these two guys but I'm like any other
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: orderly would just be dealing with crazy people They kind
- 1:08:22Speaker 7: of know that these three people have extraordinary powers, and
- 1:08:27Speaker 7: yet they still got to come here and fall asleep
- 1:08:29Speaker 7: in front of a monitor like everybody does in every
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: one of these movies. It's still kind of the same job,
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: but you know that guy's super strong, right?
- 1:08:38Speaker 4: And this guy has mind powers. All of this shit
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: should be weird, but yet they just chill up and
- 1:08:45Speaker 4: clock in like everybody else.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: And you mentioned... We could probably go off on a
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: tangent just talking about roles within insane asylums, but a
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: more realistic one that comes to mind now that I
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: hadn't even thought about, but also a real job, is
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: all the workers in session nine.
- 1:09:02Speaker 7: I was yeah that was I almost wrote that I
- 1:09:05Speaker 7: was like maybe I'm steering too far off because it's
- 1:09:07Speaker 7: so focuses on so many other things but it does
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: you get both versions of yeah you get kind of
- 1:09:12Speaker 7: flashbacks into the workings of the hospital that is a
- 1:09:16Speaker 7: weird job and In and of itself, tormenting people. And
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: then you get the guys that are actually pulling out asbestos.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, we're going to go in and pull
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: out asbestos tile in this weird, abandoned, insane asylum. Oh,
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: there's all sorts of weird content here that we can
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: just rifle through when we're bored.
- 1:09:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:09:35Speaker 7: But you assume that's the more weird of their jobs.
- 1:09:39Speaker 7: But every other day of their life, they're pulling.
- 1:09:41Speaker 6: Asbestos out of buildings?
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: That's a job.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: But then they specialize in historical buildings, too.
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: That's where you're going to get the most asbestos.
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: And just when he's talking to the kid, he's just like, no,
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: you got to wear your mask because you get this
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: little incubation. Boom, you're done. Like he talks about, he
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: goes in this whole thing about just how dangerous this
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: job is.
- 1:10:01Speaker 4: I was thinking that. How long can you do that
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: job before you die?
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like working in a coal mine or something.
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: I have that too.
- 1:10:08Speaker 7: Like there are like almost the like snapshots into this
- 1:10:13Speaker 7: is the worst job ever.
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: Don't do this. These are like cautionary tales that are like.
- 1:10:18Speaker 7: Everything from uh my bloody valentine to coal miner's daughter
- 1:10:22Speaker 7: yeah don't be a coal miner don't go in a
- 1:10:24Speaker 7: mine of any sort oh what's.
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: That great documentary by harlan county usa yes oh my
- 1:10:31Speaker 6: god i like how red your mind there that's so
- 1:10:33Speaker 6: crushing uh you know and of course uh journalism is
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: a big thing and two of my favorites in that
- 1:10:42Speaker 6: of course are my favorite romantic comedy broadcast news which
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: people might question as romantic comedy because but i just
- 1:10:52Speaker 6: i just love the movie oh no that's great.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: I think it's definitely you just laugh at watching william
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: hurt cry.
- 1:10:57Speaker 20: Yes i do uh and do that thing with his
- 1:11:00Speaker 20: neck what's funny to me is that again not to
- 1:11:05Speaker 20: i won't totally spoil it but to me like there
- 1:11:07Speaker 20: is the dividing moment in broadcast news that like turns
- 1:11:12Speaker 20: things around specifically for holly hunter's character and like oh,
- 1:11:15Speaker 20: that's going too far.
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: When I think about it now, I'm like, yeah, that's.
- 1:11:19Speaker 7: Nothing compared to the shit that happens now in journalism
- 1:11:24Speaker 7: and how doctored everything is.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: No, actually, now the movie Network has become far more prophetic.
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: But that one, I was just like, now, like, there's
- 1:11:33Speaker 7: so many reporters that specifically make themselves part of the
- 1:11:36Speaker 7: story that, like, the minor thing that he does is
- 1:11:39Speaker 7: just like, yeah, of course. They would do that before
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: they even shot the other stuff probably now.
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, that sure shows you how standards have changed.
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: Massively changed.
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: But I guess James Brooks really knew that material, having
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: done Mary Tyler Moore so well, he had honed it
- 1:11:57Speaker 6: over time.
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: Yes, several of those.
- 1:12:00Speaker 6: I think The Wire is kind of like that, too.
- 1:12:03Speaker 6: They developed that material in some earlier projects, and then
- 1:12:07Speaker 6: they really just looked at teaching and being a cop
- 1:12:12Speaker 6: And journalism, too. All these things that the different seasons
- 1:12:17Speaker 6: would focus on. But the other journalistic movie that I
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: really love, and I think it's underrated, is Shattered Glass. Yeah.
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: It's one not that many people bothered with.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: I remember when we had it at the theater, a
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: lot of people just didn't want to see it, because
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: that was... I want to say it came out a
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: year after Attack of the Clones. And so at that point,
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Hayden Christensen... Because he's not that bad of an actor.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: That might have been a little later, like 2005, because
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: both that and My Life as a House, those two
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: both were like vehicles for him that just came out
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: after the Star Wars prequels. And at that point, it
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: was almost the way that people are reacting now to
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: the news of Robert Pattinson as Batman. They're freaking out, though.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: I had a couple friends that pointed out, it's like,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: go watch Cosmopolis.
- 1:13:11Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: Cronenberg film.
- 1:13:13Speaker 7: He's specifically gone out of his way to do mostly
- 1:13:16Speaker 7: arthouse kind of stuff since he left Twilight.
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: That's a very Bruce Wayne-ish character that he plays.
- 1:13:23Speaker 6: Well, I was just saying the other day, I quit
- 1:13:27Speaker 6: really caring that deeply about casting after they cast Angelica
- 1:13:32Speaker 6: Houston and Daryl Hannah as Morticia Adams.
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: Totally the same move. What are you talking about?
- 1:13:39Speaker 6: Just screaming Bebe Neuwirth inside my head broke something in
- 1:13:44Speaker 6: my skull. And so now it's like, yeah, John Hamm
- 1:13:49Speaker 6: could have been Batman. He could have been a Batman.
- 1:13:52Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: But give him a shot. I don't care. There's so
- 1:13:55Speaker 6: many Batmans now you can have.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: Pick your Batman of choice.
- 1:14:01Speaker 6: How many Spider- Are they Spider-Men or just Spider-Mans? Because
- 1:14:06Speaker 6: they're all in the context of their world.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: See, I get mixed up on that stuff too.
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: And there are many, thanks to the multiverse.
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: Kind of like 2 plus 2.
- 1:14:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: What is that? Is that is or are 2 plus 2?
- 1:14:22Speaker 7: Is it?
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:14:24Speaker 6: I don't know what it are. It's 4.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: It's 4.
- 1:14:29Speaker 6: But the character that I really liked in Shattered Glass
- 1:14:33Speaker 6: was the guy who had just got promoted, the Peter
- 1:14:36Speaker 6: Sarsgaard character. And he had to go through, and when
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: things seemed fishy, he had to be the cop and go, okay,
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: show me where this happened. And he knew everybody resented him.
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: Everybody thought they got passed over, and how did he
- 1:14:54Speaker 6: get promoted? And he knew... And they say, he's an editor.
- 1:14:58Speaker 6: He's hardly even a writer. But he had to do
- 1:15:02Speaker 6: this and go through and say, so the convention was here?
- 1:15:06Speaker 6: And the people who were the actual reporters, they said
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: he had like a lizard-y quality that the real guy
- 1:15:14Speaker 6: didn't have. The real guy was just a likable guy.
- 1:15:17Speaker 6: And I'm like, I didn't get that from him. It
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: just seemed like it really pained him to have to
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: be the boss. But that was the job.
- 1:15:26Speaker 7: And I don't know that anybody's checking any of those
- 1:15:28Speaker 7: facts at this point. Again, if we're delving into modern
- 1:15:32Speaker 7: versions of this entertainment.
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: Presentation.
- 1:15:38Speaker 8: Oh, I know.
- 1:15:38Speaker 6: It's so tame compared to standards today.
- 1:15:41Speaker 7: See, mine, I go to the other extreme. If I'm
- 1:15:44Speaker 7: going to look up to anyone as an entertainment journalist,
- 1:15:48Speaker 7: it's our reporters.
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: From Death Race 2000. Oh, yeah. That's the kind of presentation.
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: If we're going to go to the other extreme, just.
- 1:15:56Speaker 7: gleefully excited as bodies are like on fire behind them
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: or or they're talking to a widow like whatever his name.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: Is something steel uh god i'm going black on his
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: first name but yeah god and paul bartell loved to
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: work him in because he had him in there he
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: had him in eating.
- 1:16:16Speaker 7: Raul oh yeah paul bartell's amazed But yeah, I try
- 1:16:22Speaker 7: not to continually refer to celebrities and go, dear friend
- 1:16:26Speaker 7: of mine.
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: There's a movie called The Whole Story by Alex Karpofsky.
- 1:16:33Speaker 6: Played by young girls. And it's kind of a similar setup.
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: He's trying to do a pilot for a TV show
- 1:16:40Speaker 6: where he goes to little towns and solves their mysteries.
- 1:16:45Speaker 6: And that's a great job. And he's trying to get
- 1:16:48Speaker 6: that job. By going to this town, I think in Wisconsin,
- 1:16:53Speaker 6: and there's a hole in their frozen lake where, you know,
- 1:16:57Speaker 6: it's just not frozen. There's just a hole in the
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: middle of the lake, and he's trying to solve why
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: that happened. But while he's filming and interviewing local people,
- 1:17:08Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure he does this Borat thing where he
- 1:17:11Speaker 6: does a fictional story in a real setting. So a
- 1:17:15Speaker 6: lot of people are not actors anymore. And he's just
- 1:17:18Speaker 6: playing this guy among them. He has another movie like that.
- 1:17:22Speaker 6: I think it's called woodpecker or something, but it's a
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: real event, a real place. And he goes, and it's
- 1:17:30Speaker 6: a much more understated thing than the Borat, but, uh.
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: It doesn't take much.
- 1:17:35Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's a really good movie, but he said
- 1:17:39Speaker 6: it came out about the time Borat did. And it
- 1:17:41Speaker 6: sort of got overlooked, but he's still really proud of it.
- 1:17:45Speaker 6: And it, I would highly recommend it if you haven't
- 1:17:49Speaker 6: seen it. The whole story.
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: Yeah, and it.
- 1:17:53Speaker 6: Sort of involves that broadcast news journalistic thing because while
- 1:17:59Speaker 6: he's getting ready to solve this mystery, it freezes over
- 1:18:03Speaker 6: and the hole is gone and he's not sure how
- 1:18:06Speaker 6: to solve it.
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: He's out there with an ax. Plus the hole again.
- 1:18:10Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very funny.
- 1:18:11Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: Most of my remaining ones focus more around jobs, kind
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: of like with the technician in Beyond the Black Rainbow.
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: It's focused on, like, what do you do?
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: Because I thought Ben from Blue Velvet, the Dean Stockwell character.
- 1:18:32Speaker 4: Who I love.
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: I mean, you sort of even have that question with Frank, too.
- 1:18:38Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: Like, I get why this person's scary, but. How do
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: they make a living?
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: I mean, I get to this point.
- 1:18:45Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: I at least kind of infer that Frank is like
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: a drug dealer.
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Sort of and or he kidnaps people and like exploits
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: money but that that whole scene just where he shows
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: up at ben's place and he's got these women just
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: lounging around and he just feeds frank something and he
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: sings every time i watch i'm just like What does
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: he do for a living? Like, how is he making
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: ends meet? And I honestly don't... I love that you
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: get that little snippet just to make you curious.
- 1:19:17Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: But you don't really know. And Lynch was.
- 1:19:21Speaker 6: I'm guessing real estate.
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: Could be.
- 1:19:26Speaker 6: That's just, you know, whenever I wonder, like, about a
- 1:19:29Speaker 6: real person, it's like, how? What? How are they functioning?
- 1:19:34Speaker 6: How are they... Oh, real estate.
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: I see that with a lot of people, actually.
- 1:19:39Speaker 7: Real estate or not, I just ask, how are they
- 1:19:41Speaker 7: getting by? But usually it's just decisions. I will watch
- 1:19:44Speaker 7: them making horrible decisions. I'm like, how do you get
- 1:19:46Speaker 7: through the day?
- 1:19:47Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: But that's one where it's like a little... I feel
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: like a film to where you watch the entire movie,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: and you are watching somebody go about their day and
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: do their job, and you got no idea what that
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: job is, is holy motors.
- 1:20:02Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 1:20:02Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: Where he just goes from, you know, I'm trying to
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: think of all the different sequences. He puts on like
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: the motion capture suit and is just making out with
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: a woman and it turns out to be like some
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: weird CG porn that they are capturing. He just springs
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: up out of a cemetery and is eating flowers and
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: abducts a woman.
- 1:20:23Speaker 7: The musical sequences are the best.
- 1:20:26Speaker 4: He does like the musical sequence with the accordion. It's amazing.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: He has to like He's like a Chinese assassin who's
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: killing another assassin that looks just like him. God, what
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: are some of the others? Like, they are all these sequences,
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: and it's just like you're watching someone just, well, this
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: is what he does every day. And it's just kind
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: of just most of the time I'm backing up like,
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: what is he?
- 1:20:52Speaker 4: How did we get to this point with you? Like,
- 1:20:55Speaker 4: it seems very.
- 1:20:57Speaker 7: fully functional and without missing a beat he goes like
- 1:21:00Speaker 7: he's got these jobs lined up all day every day
- 1:21:03Speaker 7: but I'm like how did it get to this how
- 1:21:06Speaker 7: did you get to be whatever these are.
- 1:21:08Speaker 6: I don't know I find often in my life I
- 1:21:12Speaker 6: just ask myself that question how did I get to
- 1:21:14Speaker 6: this point what re-roll the tape which.
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: To me is always I've just wondered is the whole
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: thing just supposed to be some fun little allegory of, Oh,
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: if you look at our lives and themselves, like you
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: just take that snapshot, you know, it's like if, if
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: somebody was watching just your life encapsulated within two hours
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: and it's like, Oh, now he's a working in an
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: art gallery for like a little bit. And it's just
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: very indifferent. Now he's, now he's selling rugs. Like you
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: just going through all the different things. Like what is
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: he doing?
- 1:21:50Speaker 19: Yeah.
- 1:21:51Speaker 6: Actually, I had to write a little bio for a thing,
- 1:21:54Speaker 6: and I reread it, and I'm like, this is the
- 1:21:56Speaker 6: craziest fucking thing.
- 1:21:58Speaker 4: Who is this person?
- 1:22:00Speaker 6: And just stuff I had taken for granted my whole life.
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: I wound up looking up, and it's like, that wasn't
- 1:22:05Speaker 6: even a real thing. When I was a kid, this
- 1:22:09Speaker 6: was like, it didn't even really exist. Well, in the
- 1:22:14Speaker 6: school I went, which was a crazy futuristic school with
- 1:22:18Speaker 6: mirrored booths and mics in the ceilings, There was a
- 1:22:21Speaker 6: senatorial where we had all the school festivals and took
- 1:22:25Speaker 6: school pictures.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: So did you go to school on the set of
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: Exorcist 2?
- 1:22:29Speaker 6: Sort of. It was in Bowling Green. It was like
- 1:22:32Speaker 6: this teacher training school for the university. And I went
- 1:22:36Speaker 6: the first year it opened. And it was a round building.
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: And in the center there was a senatorium where we
- 1:22:43Speaker 6: had all our school plays and took school pictures. And
- 1:22:47Speaker 6: I Googled it. That's not a real thing. That's not
- 1:22:50Speaker 6: a feature of architecture. The only way you can find
- 1:22:54Speaker 6: it is to put the name of the school in
- 1:22:56Speaker 6: with it. And even then, only a couple of things
- 1:22:59Speaker 6: pop up. And I'm like, look at all our innocent
- 1:23:01Speaker 6: faces thinking we were in a real place. All the
- 1:23:05Speaker 6: teachers would say, we're going to go down to the sanatorium.
- 1:23:07Speaker 6: It's like, that's not a thing. You might as well
- 1:23:10Speaker 6: say like the centaur. You know, it's a mythical. Anyway,
- 1:23:15Speaker 6: but yeah.
- 1:23:16Speaker 4: Rest in peace, I.M.P. This is why you ended up
- 1:23:20Speaker 4: like this, is what we're learning.
- 1:23:22Speaker 7: I guess.
- 1:23:23Speaker 6: Yeah. So the sense of a job in a noir
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: is an interesting thing to me. Like when a detective's like,
- 1:23:32Speaker 6: should I take this job? I wasn't buying her story.
- 1:23:36Speaker 4: The answer's always no, but they do anyway.
- 1:23:39Speaker 6: I didn't buy this lady's story, but, you know, I
- 1:23:42Speaker 6: feel like.
- 1:23:43Speaker 4: I needed 50 bucks. Yeah, I'm sitting there.
- 1:23:46Speaker 6: I love that. And I saw recently an old noir
- 1:23:50Speaker 6: called The Third Man. And it had, I don't want
- 1:23:56Speaker 6: to spoil it, but there's a scene where this guy,
- 1:23:59Speaker 6: his job is he's a hack writer. He writes sort
- 1:24:02Speaker 6: of pulpy books. But there's a scene where he gets
- 1:24:07Speaker 6: into a car and he thinks he's being taken to
- 1:24:09Speaker 6: be murdered because of this stuff he's been digging around into.
- 1:24:14Speaker 6: And it's just the greatest scene in the world. It
- 1:24:17Speaker 6: is so completely earned, so completely unexpected. And it's just
- 1:24:23Speaker 6: one of my favorite things in all of movies anywhere.
- 1:24:26Speaker 6: But he's a guy who's a writer. He went to
- 1:24:30Speaker 6: see an old friend. His friend is dead. And he
- 1:24:33Speaker 6: gets drawn into this sort.
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: Of detective role. I love that entire sequence on the
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: merry-go-round where Harry Lyme's just looking at the people and
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: just comparing them to ants.
- 1:24:42Speaker 20: Yes, exactly.
- 1:24:43Speaker 6: You could get rid of a few of those, a
- 1:24:45Speaker 6: couple here.
- 1:24:45Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: Big deal.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:24:48Speaker 7: Of ones that tie to us personally, that is one
- 1:24:51Speaker 7: of those like very quickly ended up with wanting to
- 1:24:55Speaker 7: jump to, again, now that it's a lost thing, any
- 1:25:00Speaker 7: movies that sort of captured the era of the video store.
- 1:25:03Speaker 7: And it's funny, there's one that I jumped to that
- 1:25:06Speaker 7: most people haven't even seen. I randomly ran across it,
- 1:25:09Speaker 7: I think on cable one day and went, What the
- 1:25:11Speaker 7: hell is this? Do you know Watching the Detectives?
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: Watching the Detectives?
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: No, I've heard of it.
- 1:25:17Speaker 6: Yeah. Of course, there's the Elvis Costello.
- 1:25:19Speaker 7: I'm assuming where they took the title from. But it's... No, it's...
- 1:25:24Speaker 7: And I was thinking back. I was like, I don't
- 1:25:25Speaker 7: remember the plot at all. And then I watched the
- 1:25:28Speaker 7: trailer today. And I'm like, yeah, I don't remember any
- 1:25:30Speaker 7: of this other stuff going on. But it centers... It's
- 1:25:33Speaker 7: Cillian Murphy is our main character.
- 1:25:35Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:25:35Speaker 8: And he.
- 1:25:36Speaker 7: I think owns or definitely runs and seems to have
- 1:25:40Speaker 7: free reign to do whatever the hell he wants in
- 1:25:41Speaker 7: this video store. And it's so ideal because it's obviously
- 1:25:46Speaker 7: independently owned.
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: Is it an American film?
- 1:25:50Speaker 5: I think so.
- 1:25:50Speaker 7: Yeah, it's him and Lucy Liu kind of right before
- 1:25:53Speaker 7: they were big enough that they wouldn't have done a
- 1:25:54Speaker 7: weird movie like this. But it's interesting because most of
- 1:26:00Speaker 7: the story kind of centers around this video store. And
- 1:26:03Speaker 7: they don't seem like they... ever really get customers. They
- 1:26:07Speaker 7: have a sofa in the middle of the video store
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: and a TV that they just sit over there watching
- 1:26:11Speaker 7: movies all day.
- 1:26:13Speaker 4: And I'm like, this may be the greatest job ever.
- 1:26:17Speaker 7: And I had versions of it, but mine were always
- 1:26:19Speaker 7: ruined by corporate idiots. There was always some other aspect
- 1:26:22Speaker 7: that would mess it up. But his version of just
- 1:26:26Speaker 7: coming into work, sitting on a couch, occasionally maybe he'd
- 1:26:29Speaker 7: go up and talk to Lucy Liu. There's no downside
- 1:26:31Speaker 7: to that either. So Everything else.
- 1:26:34Speaker 4: About that, it fell away. All I remember is like.
- 1:26:36Speaker 7: That's the best video store job ever because they just
- 1:26:39Speaker 7: hang out watching movies all day and talk about how
- 1:26:42Speaker 7: awesome they are and play whatever scenes they want from
- 1:26:44Speaker 7: their favorite ones. Yeah, the rest of the movie, I
- 1:26:49Speaker 7: watched the trailer and I'm like, I don't remember any
- 1:26:50Speaker 7: of this other nonsense.
- 1:26:51Speaker 6: You stay sort of indie for a while.
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:26:55Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: I remember he did Intermission in 2003 and that was
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: sort of in that... era to where everybody wanted to
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: make the next lock stock and two smoking barrels yeah
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: but i mean intermission is fun i love that he
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: and i can't remember the other actor they're incompetent bank
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: robbers like they they knocked off a truck that they
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: thought was a bank truck turns out it was just
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: shipping um brown sauce you know that i've bought it
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: before i'm like it's it's foul i don't know what
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: it's meant to be used on but they they robbed
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: an entire truck of And they didn't want to throw
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: it away. So like there's this great opening shot where
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: there's talking, you see them pouring it in their coffee
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: and drinking. What on earth are they doing? And then
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: you start to get the backstory of, oh, they messed
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: up on this. You don't find out till later that
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: they messed up on the robbery. So then suddenly you realize. Oh,
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: they've just got it all. And they're desperately trying to
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: find ways to consume it. They just don't want to
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: dump it down the drain. It's like, no, I'll tolerate
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: putting it in coffee for the next 10 years. It's
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: this clever little touch within the film.
- 1:28:03Speaker 4: He's always interesting. Even in stuff that sort of misses,
- 1:28:07Speaker 4: he's always pretty solid.
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: Sunshine, I think.
- 1:28:09Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:28:11Speaker 4: Another one of those.
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: But anyway.
- 1:28:13Speaker 7: But, yeah, I mean, the video stores, obviously, like, Clerks
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: was the big one, and I did see that at
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: the time when I was working at one, and it was,
- 1:28:20Speaker 7: there are moments that are oddly accurate, but even, like,
- 1:28:24Speaker 7: looking back at, like, things that aren't totally about that,
- 1:28:27Speaker 7: but just capture a little snapshot of time, like Scream,
- 1:28:30Speaker 7: of him working in the video store.
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: But there was also, like, Be Kind Rewind.
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I had that one, yeah.
- 1:28:35Speaker 6: Where all the videos got erased, and then they have
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: to remake them.
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: That almost came... past the point of its own yeah
- 1:28:42Speaker 4: it was.
- 1:28:42Speaker 7: In had it happened 2002 or seven eight years before
- 1:28:46Speaker 7: like it almost would have felt yeah i was gonna
- 1:28:48Speaker 7: say had that.
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: Happened in like late 80s early 90s that would have
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: been a cult.
- 1:28:52Speaker 7: Totally would have yeah it would have kind of hit
- 1:28:55Speaker 7: there because i remember even at the time When it
- 1:28:58Speaker 7: came out, thinking, wait, when did.
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: This get made?
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: I was like, did this sit on a shelf for
- 1:29:02Speaker 4: a while?
- 1:29:03Speaker 7: But even the scenes in Lost Boys or something, there's
- 1:29:06Speaker 7: just a few handful of movies that kind of have
- 1:29:09Speaker 7: those scenes in the middle of a video store that
- 1:29:11Speaker 7: you're like.
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: Ah, it's gone.
- 1:29:13Speaker 7: So yeah, that was just a weird attachment for me.
- 1:29:19Speaker 6: One little passing job thing that I really love was
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: in Casino Royale. The The newer one with, what's his name?
- 1:29:29Speaker 4: You know, what's his name?
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: Yeah, Mads Mikkelsen.
- 1:29:33Speaker 4: James Bond.
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: Daniel Craig.
- 1:29:34Speaker 6: Daniel Craig, yeah. Just when, for a moment, he's mistaken
- 1:29:39Speaker 6: for a valet. And he goes, okay. And the guy
- 1:29:42Speaker 6: throws him his keys, he takes the car, goes and
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: wrecks it. It's like, that's a lovely little scene. Yeah,
- 1:29:48Speaker 6: I would like to see more James Bond wander in,
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: do somebody's job for a minute. fuck it up entirely
- 1:29:55Speaker 6: and then move on to the next.
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: I am James Bond. I can kind of do whatever
- 1:29:59Speaker 4: I want.
- 1:30:00Speaker 7: Well, that, I mean, in that world, I did think
- 1:30:02Speaker 7: of that too. Like, because we have everybody that's so perfect. Again,
- 1:30:06Speaker 7: James Bond is like perfect at whatever the hell he
- 1:30:09Speaker 7: has to do. But then there's like, because it's such
- 1:30:11Speaker 7: an organization that runs what he does.
- 1:30:14Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah. Okay. Q's in charge of making all
- 1:30:17Speaker 4: these things.
- 1:30:18Speaker 7: What about every other idiot in a lab coat that's
- 1:30:20Speaker 7: walking around in the background of every scene when he
- 1:30:22Speaker 7: goes to get new gadgets? I'm like, these guys all
- 1:30:24Speaker 7: just show up and go to work and strap a
- 1:30:26Speaker 7: flamethrower onto themselves or a rocket pack or whatever ridiculous
- 1:30:31Speaker 7: thing is going.
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: I'm like, these are just guys going to work every day.
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: That's what I liked about the first Austin Powers. It's
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: not in the film. It's the deleted scene, but I'm
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: trying to remember who it was. Was it Will Smith
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: that plays like the, I'm not Will Smith, Will Ferrell. The,
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: there's a henchman that's just like, no, and they're on
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: a slow steamroller and it just like, it goes on
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: forever and eventually it runs him over. There's a deleted
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: scene to where after that happens, it cuts to a
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: bunch of like just regular friends at like a Chili's
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: restaurant and they're ordering appetizers and just, they're talking and
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: you're just like, man, should we, should we go ahead
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: and order our main meals or anything? It's like, no, no,
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: we got to wait till Steve gets here.
- 1:31:13Speaker 4: And it's like, all right.
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, like one of them gets
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: a text and I'm like, he's dead.
- 1:31:19Speaker 19: He got killed.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: And they're like, oh.
- 1:31:21Speaker 4: To me, I'm like, I can see why they cut it.
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: Because it completely throws off. Because then it just jumps
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: right back into the film. It's this hilarious aside, though.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: It's like, oh. This random henchman, it impacts his friends
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: and family when he gets killed.
- 1:31:42Speaker 7: Everybody has their own little.
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: It follows them down into their life.
- 1:31:47Speaker 6: The Dewey Cox Walk Hard is a movie I really
- 1:31:51Speaker 6: like because it takes the success story, which is like
- 1:31:57Speaker 6: what the meat grinder of movies and popular culture turns
- 1:32:03Speaker 6: anybody's career or life into. It's just the success story.
- 1:32:08Speaker 6: And it just really, I think, savagely shows how these
- 1:32:14Speaker 6: same beats... That you're familiar with, no matter who the
- 1:32:18Speaker 6: subject is, they all happen so predictably. I thought that
- 1:32:25Speaker 6: was a very smart comedy, and I thought it was
- 1:32:29Speaker 6: super dark.
- 1:32:32Speaker 7: Well, I've heard several people say, and I'm like, that
- 1:32:36Speaker 7: is kind of the danger of doing a movie the
- 1:32:38Speaker 7: way that they do that one. It starts off kind
- 1:32:41Speaker 7: of funny and then they take it so seriously that
- 1:32:44Speaker 7: after a while, you're not really laughing anymore because you
- 1:32:47Speaker 7: are almost buying that this guy is this dumb story
- 1:32:50Speaker 7: and you're sucked into the same biopic tropes that happen.
- 1:32:53Speaker 4: So by the end, it doesn't seem as much of
- 1:32:56Speaker 4: a comedy anymore. It's just kind of. mimicking all these
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: other biopics.
- 1:33:01Speaker 6: It was kind of a savage attack.
- 1:33:03Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too... It came at the perfect time, too.
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: It's like you had Walk the Line, then you had Rey,
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: and all of a sudden here comes this.
- 1:33:13Speaker 6: And they're still doing them.
- 1:33:14Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: They're still doing them.
- 1:33:15Speaker 7: Well, now, because it got such a good response that,
- 1:33:19Speaker 7: you know, we're coming off of the Queen version, but
- 1:33:22Speaker 7: now we're going Elton John, so it's like... And I
- 1:33:24Speaker 7: don't think they're trying to be real savage with these.
- 1:33:26Speaker 7: They seem pretty safe and Exactly what you would expect
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: out of these.
- 1:33:30Speaker 6: They're very safe, and they're completely just not true. They
- 1:33:35Speaker 6: don't care what actually happened. It's like, no, we want
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: to culminate in this sort of glorious moment.
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: No, all they're doing is they're kind of looking at
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: revenue that the music has generated. And they're like, all right, well,
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: if we make a film about it, we instantly get
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: that audience.
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: We have this running in the background of every scene,
- 1:33:55Speaker 7: regardless of what's going on.
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: Everyone loves nostalgia. Even if it's false nostalgia, they'll give
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: us a pass.
- 1:34:01Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. But I would say
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: the one I saved for last is actually the one
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: to where when I was a kid... I wanted to
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: work for this person. And this is incredibly stupid. But
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: as a nine-year-old me watching the movie, I'm like, oh,
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: that'd be so cool to work there. I wanted to
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: work for Juno from Beetlejuice. Which I realize is a
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: very dark ambition for a kid because they're all dead.
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: But it's just like, that seems kind of neat. Like
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: you have all these really bizarre characters wandering around. It's
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: just like, oh, that looks like it's fun.
- 1:34:39Speaker 4: That is another one of those that is what I
- 1:34:42Speaker 4: think is so brilliant about that movie.
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: I love how everything in the afterlife, it's still annoyingly bureaucratic.
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: It's like when they go up to see her, it's
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: like having to show your health insurance card. It's like, God.
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: And you wait in the waiting room.
- 1:34:57Speaker 4: Take a number.
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: You wait in the waiting room for months. Because what
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: else are you going to do?
- 1:35:02Speaker 4: You're in the afterworld. What difference does it make?
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: But I love that you've got... The fact that there's
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: the one fellow who has been obviously run over by
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: a truck and he's speaking to them, but then they
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: created a rig for this guy. Like we want, we
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: want to diversify who is working here. So it's like, yes,
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: this guy's run over. He can't walk on his own,
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: but we'll make a rig to where not only can
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: he move around and interact with people, but we'll even
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: put these slits in the wall.
- 1:35:28Speaker 4: So you can go all around the facility.
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: Like they put a lot of work in just to
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: hire that man. Like I, I appreciate that.
- 1:35:35Speaker 7: It's, I was thinking of that almost as the alternative
- 1:35:38Speaker 7: because I don't know how ultimate the job is, but
- 1:35:42Speaker 7: based on the amount of people who want to dress
- 1:35:43Speaker 7: like them, I would assume most people that grew up
- 1:35:46Speaker 7: in that era think that being a Ghostbuster would be
- 1:35:48Speaker 7: the greatest.
- 1:35:49Speaker 4: Job in the world.
- 1:35:49Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 1:35:50Speaker 4: Because good lord, people love to cosplay.
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: How could we not mention movie jobs and not touch
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: on Ghostbusters?
- 1:35:55Speaker 7: But I was thinking, I was like, that's kind of
- 1:35:57Speaker 7: the alternate. Like, he's the human buster. Like, the fact
- 1:36:00Speaker 7: that Beetlejuice has created a job that is essentially the opposite.
- 1:36:04Speaker 4: Of like, you want to get rid of these humans?
- 1:36:06Speaker 6: Alright.
- 1:36:07Speaker 4: So he is the ghost trying to get rid of humans.
- 1:36:09Speaker 7: I was like, I hadn't thought, I mean, obviously that's
- 1:36:12Speaker 7: the basic gimmick, but I hadn't thought about it so
- 1:36:14Speaker 7: much as a job.
- 1:36:15Speaker 4: And like, it fully to the point today is cards.
- 1:36:18Speaker 7: You know, it's like, Yeah, he spends all of eternity
- 1:36:22Speaker 7: still trying to get a job and take care of it.
- 1:36:26Speaker 4: To what end?
- 1:36:27Speaker 7: Again, we watch the nonsense that goes on in the afterworld.
- 1:36:30Speaker 7: And I'm like, why is anybody even going through?
- 1:36:35Speaker 4: That's almost the.
- 1:36:37Speaker 4: Hell of it or the the purgatory.
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: Is that there is no let again you're just used
- 1:36:43Speaker 7: to doing a job so even in purgatory you go
- 1:36:46Speaker 7: to work every day and you again you don't even
- 1:36:49Speaker 7: know why you question how the hell did i get
- 1:36:51Speaker 7: here and why am i doing this and there is
- 1:36:53Speaker 7: no answer.
- 1:36:54Speaker 6: Well aren't then dead people just taking jobs away from
- 1:36:59Speaker 6: the real estate magnates who pretend to be ghosts to
- 1:37:03Speaker 6: scare people.
- 1:37:04Speaker 7: Perfectly good jobs are going to these dead people And
- 1:37:07Speaker 7: I won't have any.
- 1:37:08Speaker 6: I'm sure, have you seen Because in Scooby Doo it
- 1:37:11Speaker 6: always turned out to be Somebody who was trying to buy.
- 1:37:13Speaker 7: They wanted the property I was going to buy where
- 1:37:16Speaker 7: all of this amusement park Sits on, this land What did.
- 1:37:19Speaker 6: The mystery gang do to make money?
- 1:37:23Speaker 4: They took these jobs.
- 1:37:24Speaker 6: Was Fred just a rich kid? I mean, he wore
- 1:37:27Speaker 6: an ascot.
- 1:37:28Speaker 4: You would think.
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: But it was the 70s, too.
- 1:37:30Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:37:31Speaker 4: They're still doing them.
- 1:37:32Speaker 7: I saw on the... This tells you the kind of
- 1:37:35Speaker 7: movies I watch. On the movie I just watched, the
- 1:37:37Speaker 7: preview just came on for the new Scooby-Doo. And they're
- 1:37:41Speaker 7: retiring at the beginning of it.
- 1:37:43Speaker 14: Oh, yeah.
- 1:37:43Speaker 7: And they still look like they always did in the 70s.
- 1:37:46Speaker 7: But I'm like, so these kids are like, what, 20?
- 1:37:49Speaker 7: And they retired from the... mystery-solving business, and he sold
- 1:37:53Speaker 7: the Mystery Machine.
- 1:37:54Speaker 6: They're going to be brick masons now?
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see what the new Ghostbusters does.
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a throwback.
- 1:38:01Speaker 7: What do you do?
- 1:38:03Speaker 4: We've already seen an attempt to go wrong, so what
- 1:38:05Speaker 4: do you do with this?
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: I'm going to say you might as well just go
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: all in and Egon is a ghost. You might as
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: well go all in. And they can do it because
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: we had CGI Peter Cushing in Rogue One.
- 1:38:21Speaker 4: And even the ridiculous amount of.
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: Egon is in the afterlife or something along that line.
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: I'm going to call that right now. We see Egon
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: in the afterlife.
- 1:38:29Speaker 4: I hope so.
- 1:38:30Speaker 7: You can put all of them in there at this point.
- 1:38:31Speaker 7: I don't know that any of them want to come
- 1:38:33Speaker 7: back in live versions, but.
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: Dan Aykroyd's too crazy to die.
- 1:38:37Speaker 7: Well, and we like seeing zombie Bill Murray, so now
- 1:38:40Speaker 7: we can see ghost Bill Murray.
- 1:38:43Speaker 6: You know, the man who would be king... It's like
- 1:38:48Speaker 6: just about two guys who want a particular job. I
- 1:38:51Speaker 6: never thought about it, though, but how are they both
- 1:38:53Speaker 6: going to be king? It seemed like they didn't think
- 1:38:57Speaker 6: that through, because there's two guys.
- 1:38:59Speaker 4: It's Black Panther rules.
- 1:39:00Speaker 7: You've got to kill each other, and whoever survives gets
- 1:39:03Speaker 7: to be king.
- 1:39:04Speaker 6: It seems like Werner Herzog should have shown up and said,
- 1:39:07Speaker 6: why do you come all the way out here to
- 1:39:09Speaker 6: be king when you can be king back, you know?
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: SCTV did a great parody of that film. I don't
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: know if you ever saw it.
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: They did.
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: It was a fake trailer called The Man Who Would
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: Be King of the Popes. And so there was a
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: pope that wanted to be king, and there was a
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: king who wanted to be pope. And then there was
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: another man who was neither king nor pope, but wanted
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: to be the king of the popes. And so, you know,
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: they're doing all these imitations. One of them is Richard Burton.
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: One of them is Peter O'Toole. One is Richard Chamberlain.
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: Catherine O'Hara is doing her.
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: Katherine hepburn i.
- 1:39:43Speaker 6: Can imagine i love her she's amazing she's just the
- 1:39:47Speaker 6: greatest i mean and and their imitations are just that
- 1:39:51Speaker 6: because john candy's doing a great richard.
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: Burton um.
- 1:39:56Speaker 6: It's funny just to hear it's yeah it's wow um
- 1:40:02Speaker 6: there's there's a moment in um the passion of the
- 1:40:06Speaker 6: cries that.
- 1:40:09Speaker 4: For anybody out there who wants to be a carpenter
- 1:40:11Speaker 4: I like where this.
- 1:40:12Speaker 6: Is set up and nobody ever mentions it but it
- 1:40:15Speaker 6: was like it looks at him as a carpenter and
- 1:40:20Speaker 6: he according to the movie he invented the table and
- 1:40:27Speaker 6: his mother Virgin Mary said well how do people sit
- 1:40:32Speaker 6: at it and he said it's too high and he
- 1:40:35Speaker 6: said well you have these chairs And she's like, it'll
- 1:40:38Speaker 6: never catch on.
- 1:40:41Speaker 4: Is that really in the film? I've never seen the film.
- 1:40:42Speaker 6: I swear to God that's in the movie. It's like
- 1:40:44Speaker 6: one of those things where you're driving.
- 1:40:46Speaker 7: Every dumb time travel movie has to work in like,
- 1:40:49Speaker 7: and this is how this happens.
- 1:40:51Speaker 4: It's like when you're driving. It's like going back to
- 1:40:52Speaker 4: the future.
- 1:40:53Speaker 6: It's like you're driving somewhere.
- 1:40:55Speaker 4: But your kids are going to love it.
- 1:40:57Speaker 6: You hit a bump. You go, what was that? And
- 1:40:59Speaker 6: then you never know. It's like, yeah, there was a
- 1:41:02Speaker 6: moment in that movie where Jesus invents the table. And
- 1:41:07Speaker 6: his mom is like, that'll never catch on.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: Now I want to see that film just so I
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: can see that scene.
- 1:41:13Speaker 7: It's your cousin Marvin. That John the Baptist guy, let
- 1:41:18Speaker 7: me tell you. He's not going to catch on, but
- 1:41:21Speaker 7: this Jesus, let me tell you.
- 1:41:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:41:25Speaker 4: I think that's where we need to round this.
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
- 1:41:29Speaker 7: But again, of the list, I've just kind of knocked
- 1:41:34Speaker 7: off half of them. So if you want to return
- 1:41:36Speaker 7: to this or if anybody out there wants to hear
- 1:41:39Speaker 7: more of us rambling about jobs, we can definitely come
- 1:41:41Speaker 7: back to this. And again, we've got many others on
- 1:41:44Speaker 7: the list. So if you want to come up with
- 1:41:46Speaker 7: a topic, throw it at.
- 1:41:47Speaker 4: Us and we can do this on some.
- 1:41:50Speaker 7: Other ridiculous topic.
- 1:41:53Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:41:53Speaker 4: Well, we will leave it with that.
- 1:41:55Speaker 7: Go think about Jesus and tables and He was ahead
- 1:42:00Speaker 7: of his time. He kind of had an inside track
- 1:42:02Speaker 7: with that whole God thing.
- 1:42:03Speaker 4: Anyway, whatever.
- 1:42:05Speaker 7: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
- 1:42:07Speaker 7: Same geek feed.
- 1:42:08Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: Otherwise, he didn't have a wig to stand on.
- 1:42:13Speaker 6: That's how we're going out.
- 1:42:20Speaker 21: It's a big job just getting by.
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: With nine kids and a wife.
- 1:42:26Speaker 21: But I've been a working man, dang.
- 1:42:29Speaker 4: Near all my life, and I'll.
- 1:42:30Speaker 12: Keep on working as long as my two hands are
- 1:42:35Speaker 12: fit to use. I'll drink my beer in a tavern, sing.
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: A little bit of these working man blues.
- 1:42:49Speaker 21: I keep my nose on the grindstone, work hard every day.
- 1:42:54Speaker 12: I might get a little tired on the weekend. After
- 1:42:57Speaker 12: I draw my paper, I go back working.
- 1:43:01Speaker 21: Come Monday morning, I'm right back with the crew. I
- 1:43:08Speaker 21: drank a little beer that evening, sang.
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: A little bit of these working man blues.
- 1:43:17Speaker 21: Sometimes I think about leaving, do a little bumming around.
- 1:43:21Speaker 21: I want to throw my bills out the window, catch
- 1:43:24Speaker 21: a train to another town.
- 1:43:25Speaker 12: I go back working, got to buy my kids a
- 1:43:30Speaker 12: brand new pair of shoes. I drank a little beer
- 1:43:36Speaker 12: in a tavern, cry a little.
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: Bit of these working man blues.
- 1:43:42Speaker 12: Here comes that working man blues. Well, hey, hey, the
- 1:44:13Speaker 12: working man, working man like me.
- 1:44:15Speaker 2: I ain't never been on welfare, and that's one place
- 1:44:19Speaker 2: I won't be.
- 1:44:20Speaker 12: I'll be working as long as my two hands are
- 1:44:25Speaker 12: fit to use. I'll drink my beer in a tavern, sing.
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: A little bit of these working man blues. This song's
- 1:44:37Speaker 2: for the working man.
- 1:44:42Speaker 7: Is he supposed to be telling you this?
- 1:44:43Speaker 4: Is he telling me this?
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: It's almost like one of those moments in a movie
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: to where people are pulling a caper and you have
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: that flashback of, how do you know this?
- 1:44:52Speaker 4: Well, this is going to come in handy in a
- 1:44:55Speaker 4: little while.
- 1:44:55Speaker 6: Man, if I was the cameraman, I would just be
- 1:44:57Speaker 6: lingering on your face in that scene.
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