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- henry: Hey guys, welcome back to the Podicy. episode ten. I'm Henry Wilkinson. I'm Andrew Mosler. And today we're doing a short biopic special. and really what it is, it's just gonna be us us drafting five round draft of biopicks. As we mentioned last episode, we were excited for Matt Johnson's new film, Tony. We thought it'd be a good good time to explore some biopics. Didn't get to watch Tony just 'cause it wasn't available near us. we did a little bit of prep for biopics, so we figured we'd just roll with it. yeah. I don't know, I feel like I talked last episode too, but there's kind of some gray area on what people consider a biopic or not, but basically just anything that's about a person's life. And is like focused on that person. Like I know I had mentioned Zodiac last episode. It's based on a true story, but isn't considered a biopic 'cause it's not about like the Zodiac, but I don't know. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, I think one of my first picks might I don't even know if it's a biopic. We'll see. I think it was a I mean it ha I put it on one of these li or like I saw it on one of these lists. I might throw the flag out there. Go ahead and throw the flag and I might agree with you because now that I'm thinking about it, I have I just have no idea. We'll see. Yeah, and I don't know why. Whenever I like searched for like biopics, it just I felt like it was giving me stupid stuff. Yeah, the lists were very contradic contradictory. Yeah. And I think a lot of that has to do is just it's hard to have a concrete I mean there's some that are clearly one version, but yeah. But all right. Let's let's let's get into it. There's some some banger biopics out there. For sure. Yeah, rock, paper, scissors. This guy, man. Ready? Let's do it. he wins. He gets let's go. He gets first pick. All right. Finally got a win. It's two to one. Two to one. Two to one. Okay. All right. You get the first pick on the Potsey biopic draft. What are you taking? Number one overall. I'm throwing the flag. Nah, I don't think I'm gonna take it number one because I don't you're gonna take it. Number one overall. Yes. Man, I I didn't even think about this because I thought you were I thought so confidently you were gonna beat me in rock, paper, scissors that I was just preparing to take the number two. But number one I'm gonna take good fellas. Okay, that's a good pick. Alright. So you get the two and three. Yeah, I got the two and three. I am for sure gonna take Oppenheimer. Yeah. I was debating that one. That's good that's a good yeah. I was I was torn a little bit. That's tough. Trying to think if I actually wanna draft in the order that I would pick it in or if or if you want to strategically draft. Yeah. I'm kinda strategically drafting because I don't think you're gonna pick this movie. But you might throw the flag, so I don't know. Might get screwed. But all right. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna There's a lot of good I'm gonna go. This is kind of strategic, but also not outrageous for where I drafted, but I'm gonna take a hidden life here. Okay. So I got Oppenheimer and A Hidden Life. That's a great movie. Both fire movies. Okay, so I've got the You got two picks here. The four and the five. Yep. One of these picks. Thought about taking it at one. I have no idea what you're even think like what. I'm going miracle on ice. Okay, that's a good pick. I was thinking about taking it at one. Yep. And I didn't know if it was on your like you're you were thinking about it at all. It's I was kinda scared. I it it definitely would have become a factor for me. I just love Kurt Russell and that movie so good. I I just listened to a podcast on that 'cause I was It's one that I know I love but I hadn't seen it in a while. And the Rewatchables podcast, which is like one of the many ringer podcasts. it's you know, Bill Simmons. He's he it's his podcast and sure. They I just I love when they are talking about movies and they're It's the r the rewatchables, they literally just talk about a movie that is rewatchable every every week. And I was deep in the files and I saw this one. I'm like, that's perfect. So we're doing a biopic episode. but it was really fun to fun to listen to, like just the process of it. It kind of fit the mold of how like sports movies were back then. Yeah. It was literally you get your star actor, like to be the coach and then you just kinda build it around them, like Yeah, that's true. But the way that they I think this movie works so well because they cast like hockey players as the hockey players and their motto there was it's easier to teach the hockey players how to act than it is to teach actors how to play hockey. And like the hockey scenes in that look so good. Yeah. And I think in movies it's excusable sometimes, but if the sports don't look good, it kinda takes you out of it. Yeah. but yeah, Russell's really freaking good in that. So good. That's that's a good pick. Yeah. And then I'm gonna follow it up with Catch Me If You Can. Okay. My favorite Spielberg. Really? Yeah. I haven't seen that one in a while. You know, I think it was actually well I don't count the Indiana Jones as Spielberg. yeah. You do? Yeah, it's Spielberg. Yeah, it's Lucas and Spielberg. It's Spielberg. Okay. Then maybe Spielberg's the director. David's not my favorite. we watched Catch Me If You Can in my accounting class in high school. Really? Yeah. And I I think it was my second time watching it though. Because I remember being like, this is peak. Yeah. And so many people don't even realize it. Great movie. So good. Tom Hanks and Leo is a great pairing. Yeah, it's that's a really solid movie. One of my favorite movie my fa actually my favorite movie joke of all time. What's that? Knock knock. Tom Hanks is in the car with the two other FBI guys. Yeah. And they're like, you know, do you ever lighten up? You know, what like kind of you know, you take your job so seriously everybody goes, Yeah, what you know, you wanna hear me tell a joke or whatever? And they're like, sure and he's like, knock knock, and he goes, Who is there? And he goes, Go fuck yourself Does it in like the old timey Tom Hanks accent too? So good. My dad is. All right, so you So what do you got? So you got two picks right here, yeah. Yeah, so I got Miracle and Catch Me If You Can. And you've got Oppenheimer and Hidden Life. I got okay. Two picks here. Six and the seven. Gets really tough. There's a lot of really good movies. my gosh. I I'm just seeing it like I just look and there's just It does get tough and I don't I'm trying to think of where you're gonna go. I'm gonna have to leave some crazy ones. All right. I don't know if this is on your radar. I don't know where you rank it, but it's my favorite and it's Moneyball. Favorite biopicker? Yeah. Yeah. Moneyball. Yeah. I was thinking about it. So I'm gonna take that just so I can guarantee that I have my favorite. That's some pretty good value right there at pick number six. man. So many good movies. Yeah. I'm gonna go the social network here. I thought you would. Yeah. So it kinda hurts me. Yeah. I was thinking about that too. Some money ball and social network with those two. Those are two good picks. All right. All right, so these are my last two. Last two. And then you've got one to round it off. Yep. I'm torn between I'm torn between a lot. Mm-hmm. And there's one that's there's two that I'm thinking about that are the same not the same. I guess they're the kind of same style of movie. So I I'm gonna pick one of those for sure. I mean, you ca you can share your thought thought process here. 'Cause I can't really steal anything from ya. That's true. If you want. Well I'm curious what here's my thought. I think y well, I don't know. I think with the last pick you're gonna go with Greatest Showman. Okay. And I love the Greatest Showman too. But one of my favorite movies of all time is The Sound of Music. Mm. Is that a flag? Are you I don't know. I think I saw it on some list. Okay, you did? Okay, 'cause I didn't really know. so let me just say for sure I'm taking the sound of music. Okay. Or look it up. Are you looking up let's yeah, I'm gonna look up, yeah. Is this the deciding factor? Is Google AI gonna be the deciding factor? I dude the thing is I don't know. Like what I don't know if it's a biopic. I know, I'm saying is Google AI gonna be the deciding factor? Like whatever it says. Yeah, 'cause I'm gonna look it up and the first thing is gonna be Google AI. Let's go with it. Whatever it says, let's go with it. All right. Yeah. That's a good either way, this is a good shout for sound music. Yeah. One of the best movies ever. So the family's a real family? Yeah, the Von Trapp family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They I feel like yeah But it's but it's the thing is it's not like about the Von Trapp family. It's about Julie Andrews character. And how she teaches him. And there's so much And is she not a real that okay. I really should know. I just started I was typing as I was talking. I was I said Is the family that that's all I typed. But I just I was just trying to type as the sound of music. Is the sound of music? What are you what are you typing? That's what I want to know. Yeah. What's it saying? not considered a biopic. Wow, okay. According to Google AI, it is a musical drama film based loosely on history. Yeah. Instead of a strict biopic about real people, it is heavily fictionalized adaptation. Yeah. It originates from the Von Trapp's from Maria Von Trapp's nineteen forty nine memoir, The Star Story of the Trapp Family Singers, which inspired the musical before the movie. Okay. I mean that makes sense. Okay. I mean I didn't really think it was one I just threw it on here because it the list. So the flag's been thrown. Flag's thrown. You cannot take the sound of music. Fifteen yard penalty for me. that's a movie I want to rewatch though. So good. I rem I that was one of the first things I told you when I DM'd you it was on my way back yeah a long time. I before we had even like really started talking to each other, I just saw that he had letterbox and I DMed him. I was like, Hey, I see follow letterbox, you got an account and then he sent me his account and then I I saw you had sound music. I'm like, this guy's got good taste. It's a staple in my family. Yeah. It's a banger. Right. so yeah, no sound of music for you. No sound of music, so I'm s I mean it doesn't really even help me. I'm still torn. Now I'm even more torn because I can't take that. I gotta go ru with Remember the Titans. Okay, that's a good that's a good pick. even though I already have Miracle sports movie. I for I just love football too. For reference I had Remember the Titans at eight on my list and Miracle at nine on my list. Nice. So they both were in the Good. We're in the cards. Yeah. Now to round out my list with my fifth and final pick. Yep. Not as high on the Wolf of Wall Street as a lot of people. I also am not. I still like it though. I like it as a kind of it's a great Leo performance. Yeah, I think so too. I'm also not as high on Casino as a lot of people. I haven't seen that one. You give that a three and a half though, I remember. I think so, yeah. and I already have Goodfellas and it to me it just feels like a way worse Goodfellas. Yeah. so right now I'm torn between Apollo thirteen, which is one of my favorite movies. And Ford vs Ferrari. Mm. And I think I'm gonna go with Ford vs Ferrari. Nice. Yeah, Ford vs. Ferrari. Hmm. But I love Apollo thirteen. Honorable mention Apollo thirteen. Unless you're gonna pick it. Nope. I'm not gonna pick Apollo thirteen. Okay, you don't have to say it like that. No, I Apollo thirteen is I haven't seen it in forever, but I I remember I loved it when I was younger. Yeah. And yeah, I couldn't tell you anything about it. yeah. Besides like the history of the mission. All right. What do you got? What are you thinking about? I think I have to take it. The Great Showman. No. That is a great movie. I think I'm gonna take the Iron Claw. I'm gonna take the Iron Claw with the last pick. Nice. you gotta watch that. Yeah, that was one of the ones where I'm like Do I go how I would actually draft it or do I go strategic here? Yeah. Yeah, it's a five star for me. I've seen it three times in like the last year. Wow, three times in last year. Yeah. I really, really love it. It's like top thirty all time for me. It's yeah. It's it's ranked third on my biopic list behind Moneyball and Oppenheimer. Nice. What do you got it for? A Hidden Life. Nice. I got so I'll just do my top ten. Yeah. Moneyball. Well, around let's let's go over what we drafted first. So I got Oppenheimer, A Hidden Life, Moneyball, The Social Network, and the Ironclaw. And I got Goodfellas, Miracle, Catch Me If You Can, Remember the Titans, Ford. you got you got some really good ones too. This is this is a banger list. There is just some the really good biopicks. I think I don't know, I'm A lot of times like when I see a biopic coming out like now, I don't get excited about it. And I think it's just because a lot of them just play it safe now and just kind of super buy the book. But like going through these, I'm like, okay, like I do have Oppenheimer from twenty three, Ironclaws from twenty three. Yeah. I mean a hidden life is twenty nineteen still. But like they used to know how to do like sports biopics. And now I feel like they don't. They were just pumping out gas. Like and they were kind of, you know they're cliche and they're whatever, but like does not matter. I w one one of them that I was gonna throw that I was thinking about was forty two. Yeah. yeah, I really like forty two. Me too. I I think it kind of fly it's people are sports movie mixed on it, I think really but I really like Chadwick in that movie. Me too. That's what I'm gonna say his performance is it's three point seven on letterbox. It's pretty good. Okay, that is good then. That's higher than I thought it was. And then the other one I was gonna or two other ones that I was going to shout out honorable mentions was the smashing machine, which I really liked. And I thought Just kinda I don't know. It just felt like people just kinda undersold it all I don't know. People didn't really like it, but one of my favorites. I didn't really like it. Yeah. I thought it was good. And then Legend. I haven't seen that one. I saw that on a lot of the lists though. Tom Hardy plays twins. Really? I didn't yeah. let me he he so funny. It's so good. He's done like a couple biopics because he did that. Have you seen anything about Bron Bronson? No. It's like just this Yeah, that crazy Yeah, this psycho and it's like a quick movie, I think, like maybe an hour and a half, and he just gives a really good performance. I've been wanting to watch I've heard that's good. But this one is Love, Fight, Live, Rule Like a Legend. Suave, charming, and volatile, Rogie Cray and his unstable twin brother Ronnie. Start to leave their mark on the London underworld in the nineteen sixties, using violence to get whatever they want. The siblings orchestrate robberies and murders while running nightclubs and protect and protection rackets, with police detective Leonard Nipper red hot on their head on their heels, the brothers continue their rapid rise to power and achieve tabloid notoriety. What's what's it got on letterbox? Notoriety. Three point three. Okay. Which is kinda surprising to me. But Tom Hardy. Yeah. He's good. Great performance, but I just want to shout that out. Yeah. Did I just mess up where we're doing the list? Did you say what you rounded out the list with? The draft? Yeah. Yeah, I said my five picks. You did? Yeah. Yeah. Did you say your five? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. And then we started talking about biopicks. Yeah. Yeah, I guess all all of the ones in my top ten got picked except for Hacksaw Ridge. Have you seen Hacksaw Ridge? It's So Andrew Garfield twenty sixteen was cooking 'cause he did Hacksaw Ridge and then he did silence with Scorsese. Not twenty sixteen though. I still gotta watch that one. maybe that'll be this week. yeah. yeah. But yeah, twenty sixteen he does Hacksaw Ridge and Silence, and they're really, really, really great performances. They're definitely his two best and my two favorite of his. but yeah, Hacksaw Ridge is a biopic about this soldier who it's kind of similar to a hidden life where like he refuses to keep weapons or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. He he still wants to serve, but he doesn't want to That's Vince Vaughn's in that too, right? Yeah. And Sam Worthington. yeah, it's it's a really powerful story. I had it at a five star for a while. I I it's a four and a half now, but like I still love it. I have it ranked seventh. and then we talked about the greatest show when that's my ten, but honorable mention to Blackberry, Matt Johnson's biopic from see like that's twenty twenty three too, I think. Yeah. yeah, it's kind of his first film, like I said last episode, where he as a director is working with the real casting crew. and he does a really, really good job with that. and then Sing Sing too from that's in the twenty twenties that's like twenty four, I think. twenty twenty three. So Dang, twenty twenty three they were cooking with Yeah, I guess. it's kind of like a mix ha you haven't seen Sound of Metal? No. It's kind of a mix of like Sha Shank and Sound of Metal. it's like He drums he drums his way to freedom. Yeah, he's just in prison. He just starts drumming and he gets out. but no, it's about these guys that are incarcerated and they like they start this play or whatever while they're in prison and the like a lot of the actors in the movie are like real prison mates or something like that that were actually a part of this program. and that's kind of the reminiscent part of Sound of Metal. Like Sound of Metal is about like a Deaf community and like Trying like get people to come to terms with their deafness and just kind of live their life and like that's kind of how it is with this thing too. Like them trying to come to terms with them being in prison and right. Still being able to do something they're passionate about and make something out of their lives. And yeah, it's it's that's a really good movie too. So those are those are my two shout-outs. I thought thought a couple days ago there was a chance that maybe I'd be taking the raging both the one one, but then I watched it and Didn't like it. Didn't like it. Yeah, I What else? Roofman from last year is good. Yeah. Yeah, those are like my positive ones, I guess. Yeah. Hidden figures. yeah. I haven't seen that in a long time. Yeah. It's a good one. Captain Phillips too. Yeah, Captain Phillips is good. Good one. That's been a long time since I watched that. The Blind Side. Yeah, that one's and people hate on it now. Really? Because of the story about the parents that came out. Yeah, what what came out with that one? Like they just I don't know, they like robbed Michael a bunch of money or something like that. Really? I don't know exactly. Which yeah, kinda puts a dampening mood on the movie, but the movie's still good. Right. So but yeah, I don't know. The it was fun. I mean, I mainly did rewatching for the biopics. I didn't watch a ton of new stuff, but they're yeah, th it's it's a good good list of biopics and Yeah, I guess I I it opened my eyes to that there are some good recent ones. Definitely. Did you ever watch the complete unknown? No, I never did. Me neither. Have you you haven't seen it? Yeah. But yeah, I I don't know. Next episode. I'm hoping we'll be doing a movie review on Coyote or the Dog Stars, maybe. We'll see. Yeah. Cause it'll be it'll come out next weekend. Next Friday. Yeah. Yeah. It's first Friday. It's first one will be on Thursday. So we'll see what we'll see what's being offered to us. There better be one. No, we better get one. Yeah. I hope so. Yeah. But yeah, so we'll probably do a new release movie review next week. Yeah. yeah, this is like a little short biopic special with our draft and a little insight into our rankings too. You anything else? Let us know who won. Yeah, let us know who won. But yeah, we'll yeah, we'll probably yeah, do a new release next week. That'll be fun. Yeah. Either one. Maybe we'll if it's Dog Stars, we could do Ridley Scott. Yeah, that would be fun. And if that might be what I watched this week. Some Ridley Scott's. Good idea. Like I haven't seen Alien. either. I really want to watch Kingdom of Heaven. I have a I have a buddy that was like It's one of his favorite movies. You've seen Gladiator though? Yep. I wanna rewatch it though, because I didn't like it the first time. Rewatch it. Yeah, I know. So that's so yeah, I definitely got some Ridley's I to check out. Yeah, I I need to watch some of that too. And if we don't get dog stars, then we could do a animated episode. I don't know. Yeah, we'll figure something out. No idea. But yeah, this was our our biopic episode. If you're in an area and can watch Tony. I haven't even seen it and I would still recommend you guys go see it just 'cause I love Matt Johnson. Yeah. But yeah, thanks for Did I say at the beginning of the episode what episode it was? Ten. I said ten? Yeah. Okay. I was thinking I said nine. Thanks for checking out episode ten of the Odyssey. See you guys. See ya.