Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #1002 Why Kylie Loves Snapchat
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
- 0:05Speaker 2: It's the podcast for.
- 0:07Speaker 1: The time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now, I have some embarrassing news. You know how I
- 0:13Speaker 2: don't remember. I don't know Mother's day, Birthday's anniversary. No,
- 0:17Speaker 2: I mean I kind of do do I or don't I?
- 0:20Speaker 1: You remember that, you just don't make a big deal.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the right way. Like, I know it's happening,
- 0:24Speaker 2: but I just it's just another day. Well, we had
- 0:26Speaker 2: a substantial milestone two days ago. One thousand episodes of
- 0:31Speaker 2: a Happy Families podcast on Wednesday.
- 0:34Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive.
- 0:35Speaker 2: You know, I'm making it sound a bit anticlimactic, aren't I. Yeah, Well,
- 0:39Speaker 2: we've done it a thousand times and we still can't
- 0:41Speaker 2: get it right. I mean, what are we doing here?
- 0:44Speaker 2: If you haven't gone back and listened to a one thousand,
- 0:46Speaker 2: there's a challenge for you.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I think I don't do it.
- 0:50Speaker 2: No, it'll make your parenting better.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I mean, started about one hundred and eighty four.
- 0:54Speaker 2: You'll hear a real evolution in the way the podcast
- 0:57Speaker 2: has sounded over the years. But a thousand episodes, Kylie,
- 1:00Speaker 2: a thousand episodes of Happy Families. Do you think that's
- 1:04Speaker 2: made a difference. Do you think it's helped people?
- 1:07Speaker 1: What I do know is that while ever you and
- 1:11Speaker 1: I are engaged in these kinds of conversations, we're better
- 1:15Speaker 1: parents for it.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take that. I'll take you. I do get
- 1:17Speaker 2: feedback from people, not just mum. In fact, you know,
- 1:20Speaker 2: there's an old joke nobody listens except my mum. I
- 1:23Speaker 2: don't think my mum listens to this podcast ever.
- 1:25Speaker 1: I don't think she does.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Say no, does you want no?
- 1:28Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 1:29Speaker 2: A thousand episodes, and our parents don't listen.
- 1:31Speaker 1: But our son in law does, Yeah, and so does
- 1:33Speaker 1: our painter.
- 1:36Speaker 3: We have a painter and he actually we were at
- 1:39Speaker 3: the top of his list the day he was here painting,
- 1:42Speaker 3: and he said, feels a bit weird listening to your podcast.
- 1:45Speaker 2: While I'm in your house.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So he decided he wouldn't listen to it that day.
- 1:49Speaker 2: A thousand episodes of Happy Families. I really, I know
- 1:53Speaker 2: I said it in jest, but seriously, if you've got
- 1:56Speaker 2: the capacity for it, go back and listen. You can
- 1:59Speaker 2: hear how bad we out at the start, but also
- 2:01Speaker 2: the things that we talk about and the way that
- 2:03Speaker 2: we can help your family. I reckon it'll make you
- 2:06Speaker 2: a better parent. That's my promise. It'll make you a
- 2:08Speaker 2: better parent. Anyway. If you are a new listener, thanks
- 2:11Speaker 2: for being here for episode one thousand and two.
- 2:14Speaker 1: If you haven't left a review, oh.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yes, good one. If you haven't left a review on
- 2:20Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts or on Spotify, go there, click the five
- 2:24Speaker 2: star button. We would be so stoked. A thousand episodes.
- 2:27Speaker 2: That's got to be worth a review. That'd be great.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Tell people what you think. Let everyone know that you've
- 2:32Speaker 2: listened to the podcast. You think that it's great. And
- 2:35Speaker 2: we've got six hundred and twenty six ratings with four
- 2:37Speaker 2: point eight out of five. I just looked it up,
- 2:39Speaker 2: four point eight out of five and the last one
- 2:42Speaker 2: that we received was from fief Fee Boss in April.
- 2:46Speaker 2: It was only a few weeks ago. Helpful and hope Field.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I have found calm in the chaos and hope in
- 2:51Speaker 2: the hard time.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I recommend to any parent. That's a nice one, isn't it.
- 2:56Speaker 2: We'd love to get more. Maybe you can jump on
- 2:59Speaker 2: give us live stars and tell us how awesome it
- 3:01Speaker 2: is that and you.
- 3:01Speaker 1: See, let us know who your favorite is.
- 3:07Speaker 2: That was kind of a wicked laugh. All right, we
- 3:11Speaker 2: need to do some stuff here. It's nice to chat,
- 3:14Speaker 2: but we need to do some stuff, Kylie. Every Friday,
- 3:17Speaker 2: it's older better tomorrow. This is a bit where we
- 3:19Speaker 2: talk about what's worked, what hasn't, how we're going to
- 3:20Speaker 2: be better tomorrow because we want to be intentional on
- 3:23Speaker 2: our parenting. Me first, Me first?
- 3:25Speaker 3: Oh me? Right?
- 3:27Speaker 2: Ladies for gentlemen? Are you allow us say ladies before
- 3:29Speaker 2: gentlemen in twenty twenty four. I've never been politically correct before.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I grew up with that and I'm sticking with it.
- 3:36Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry for anyone who's so feminist a
- 3:38Speaker 2: sister that I've gone too far. But ladies four gentlemen,
- 3:41Speaker 2: do you know what?
- 3:42Speaker 3: So?
- 3:42Speaker 2: I'm working on this book about masculinity at the moment,
- 3:44Speaker 2: writing a book about bringing up boys. And my definition
- 3:47Speaker 2: of what it is to have healthy masculinity is that
- 3:50Speaker 2: you help the people around you to feel safer and
- 3:52Speaker 2: stronger when you defer to others and let them go first,
- 3:55Speaker 2: or I don't know, even something as old fashioned as
- 3:58Speaker 2: open up a door for someone. What you're basically saying
- 4:01Speaker 2: is I'm considerate of you, and I don't see that
- 4:03Speaker 2: as being sexist. I see that as being thoughtful and
- 4:06Speaker 2: empathic and kind to others. I don't see that as
- 4:11Speaker 2: being a sexist thing. Anyway.
- 4:13Speaker 1: We're not here to talk to open my door anytime
- 4:15Speaker 1: you want.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Okay, let's get off this. You want to go first?
- 4:19Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
- 4:20Speaker 1: Well, it's official, yea, I am on sapchat.
- 4:26Speaker 2: This is going to be good. Can I start? Can
- 4:30Speaker 2: I start your I'll do better tomorrow.
- 4:31Speaker 1: You're going to start my answer about it?
- 4:33Speaker 2: Now you go. But I've got to I've got to
- 4:34Speaker 2: jump in with the story. You're not allowed to do
- 4:36Speaker 2: the story. You've just reminded me.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Go. I have pushed against snapchat ever since the kids
- 4:44Speaker 3: got on it.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I just correction, didn't understand it.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I still don't understand it. I don't even know how
- 4:50Speaker 1: to do it.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Looks to me like you know how to do it
- 4:53Speaker 2: pretty well the amount of time you're spending one of
- 4:54Speaker 2: the moment.
- 4:57Speaker 3: But I'm about to go away, and I was to
- 5:00Speaker 3: talking to the girls about how I can interact with them,
- 5:03Speaker 3: and specifically with the girls that I work with at church,
- 5:08Speaker 3: and I really wanted to find a meaningful way.
- 5:12Speaker 2: So are you going to use the word snapchat in
- 5:14Speaker 2: the same sentence as meaningful?
- 5:16Speaker 3: Yes, I am a meaningful way to connect with teenagers.
- 5:20Speaker 3: This is really hard. So I love using Marco Polo.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Me and a few friends from the other side of
- 5:25Speaker 3: the world connect via Marco. And I was like, maybe
- 5:28Speaker 3: I'll just make a Marco Polo group, and the big
- 5:30Speaker 3: girls looked at me and went, mom, that is like
- 5:32Speaker 3: so old school.
- 5:34Speaker 2: You've got to use Snapchat like Mico Polo. Okay, boomer,
- 5:37Speaker 2: which you're not. Let's just be clear you're not. But
- 5:40Speaker 2: Marco Polo is a bit boomerish.
- 5:42Speaker 1: So they downloaded it for me.
- 5:46Speaker 3: They showed me all the filters and can I tell you,
- 5:50Speaker 3: I have just had an absolute ball and the girls
- 5:53Speaker 3: and I have gone back and forth with these crazy
- 5:56Speaker 3: messages that just.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Make me laugh.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Well, welcome to twenty first cent.
- 6:04Speaker 1: As the world changes, there's just this wonderful opportunity for
- 6:08Speaker 1: us to not only understand our kids world, but get
- 6:12Speaker 1: involved in it in ways that are meaningful to them.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got to jump in here. I rail
- 6:18Speaker 2: against social media a lot, and snapchat has definitely got
- 6:20Speaker 2: a lot of drawbacks, but one thing. In fact, one
- 6:24Speaker 2: of my team members, Evelyn, has been going on about
- 6:26Speaker 2: this for a long time. The argument that I would make,
- 6:30Speaker 2: and that everyone has really hammered home because she does
- 6:34Speaker 2: the same thing with her kids on Snapchat, is when
- 6:36Speaker 2: you're on there, you have the capacity to number one,
- 6:40Speaker 2: know how it works, but number two have better conversations.
- 6:43Speaker 2: You can connect better, you can keep them safer. And
- 6:46Speaker 2: we were driving back from an appointment just the other day.
- 6:50Speaker 2: You were in the passenger seat. I was driving, and
- 6:52Speaker 2: I noticed that you were on your phone because you'd
- 6:54Speaker 2: stopped talking to me, which is one of my pet peeves.
- 6:57Speaker 2: And next thing you know, you're I glanced at the
- 7:00Speaker 2: screen and you've got this crazy filter and you've got
- 7:03Speaker 2: these bug eyes and this tiny little mouth and a
- 7:05Speaker 2: V shaped face and alien face. I love how funny
- 7:10Speaker 2: you think this is? Like right now, Kylie is falling
- 7:13Speaker 2: out of her seat. It's it's so funny. And you're
- 7:16Speaker 2: sending these messages to our daughters, just saying the stupidest things,
- 7:21Speaker 2: and our daughters are sending back messages saying, this is
- 7:24Speaker 2: the great thing about Snapchat. It doesn't matter. It's just
- 7:26Speaker 2: about being stupid, It's about fun nobody cares. And what
- 7:30Speaker 2: I have seen is I mean, we've got great relationships
- 7:33Speaker 2: with our kids anyway, but I've loved watching the joy
- 7:35Speaker 2: that you've had as you. There's this idea that all
- 7:39Speaker 2: of our connections are supposed to be meaningful and deep.
- 7:43Speaker 2: And yet the guy that I bump into every now
- 7:46Speaker 2: and again whant to go surfing, don't even know his name.
- 7:48Speaker 2: It's just heygar mate, and then we talk about nothing
- 7:51Speaker 2: other than the surf conditions over the last week or
- 7:53Speaker 2: two since we've last bumped into each other. It's a
- 7:55Speaker 2: meaningless conversation. I don't know the guy still don't even know,
- 8:01Speaker 2: and yet I feel better for having made that connection.
- 8:05Speaker 2: And research shows that just connections, regardless of how meaningful
- 8:08Speaker 2: or meaningless, they are, just having a sense of connection,
- 8:11Speaker 2: feeling seen and heard and valued having a conversation, it
- 8:15Speaker 2: makes a huge difference. And that's what I'm seeing with
- 8:18Speaker 2: you in this particular context.
- 8:21Speaker 1: So do I have your blessing? Is that what you're.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Saying you're so funny? I don't know. I don't know.
- 8:31Speaker 1: You might have featured in one of my steps.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit crnchy at the moment about
- 8:36Speaker 2: it all. Let's just say I'm not going to get
- 8:38Speaker 2: on it. I still see social media generally, especially for me,
- 8:42Speaker 2: as the great and happiness machine. It doesn't work well
- 8:44Speaker 2: for me. But if it's working for you, and it's
- 8:46Speaker 2: not interfering with your relationships and your sleep and your
- 8:48Speaker 2: physical activity and all the other stuff that's important, then
- 8:50Speaker 2: you go for a girl.
- 8:55Speaker 1: What's yours?
- 8:56Speaker 2: May I'll do better tomorrow? Oh gee, So that it's
- 9:00Speaker 2: not as fut as mine, No, it's not as it's
- 9:02Speaker 2: pretty fun. Actually, I had a win. You go out
- 9:06Speaker 2: every Wednesday night and look after all the girls at church.
- 9:10Speaker 2: So there's a group of what like twenty thirty girls
- 9:13Speaker 2: who are aged between twelve and eighteen, and you have
- 9:16Speaker 2: responsibility for looking after their activities, and I guess in
- 9:18Speaker 2: some ways they're welfare, they're well being. That means though
- 9:22Speaker 2: that on a Wednesday night, I'm at home with Emily,
- 9:25Speaker 2: our ten year old.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Let's just put this in context. You have not been home.
- 9:28Speaker 2: No, that makes it tricky. When I'm traveling and you've
- 9:30Speaker 2: got to take her along and she's not supposed to
- 9:32Speaker 2: be there, it is tricky. But I've been home just
- 9:34Speaker 2: recently and had the opportunity to spend Wednesday nights with her,
- 9:38Speaker 2: and you left the other night in just in such
- 9:43Speaker 2: a flurry of activity. And I'd only just walked in
- 9:46Speaker 2: after a really big day. I think I'd done like
- 9:49Speaker 2: a I don't know how many hours, but it was
- 9:50Speaker 2: a massive, massive day. I've walked in the door at
- 9:52Speaker 2: two minutes to six, You've run out the door at
- 9:54Speaker 2: one minute past six. The kitchen's at disaster, the house
- 9:58Speaker 2: is and an uproar, everything's just everywhere. And I looked
- 10:01Speaker 2: at Emily and I said, well, what are the chances
- 10:06Speaker 2: you're going to help me with the kitchen? And she
- 10:07Speaker 2: walked out of the room. She was like, I'm not
- 10:09Speaker 2: even going to have this conversation with you. Come on,
- 10:12Speaker 2: And somehow I just said, well, you know what, am
- 10:16Speaker 2: I reckon? It's about time we had a daddy daugh
- 10:18Speaker 2: to date. We just need to have a dad and
- 10:20Speaker 2: Emily night out. What do you think? And she looked
- 10:23Speaker 2: at me with her eyes wide, she said really, I said, yeah,
- 10:26Speaker 2: what do you reckon about? Some gelato? Now? You know
- 10:28Speaker 2: about how I feel when it comes to spending money
- 10:32Speaker 2: on like like spending six or seven dollars on one
- 10:34Speaker 2: scoop of ice cream. You know my attitude towards this.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I'm going to say is you
- 10:40Speaker 3: definitely walked there, didn't you.
- 10:43Speaker 2: No, No, No, that was the rule.
- 10:45Speaker 1: That was the rule.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Okay, So well we did walk there from where I
- 10:47Speaker 2: parked the cars, so slight. I said, if you want
- 10:51Speaker 2: to have a daddy daughter to date, we've just got
- 10:53Speaker 2: to do a bit of a tidy up here. I'm
- 10:55Speaker 2: going to work on the kitchen.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And so you bribed her?
- 10:57Speaker 2: No, I didn't bribe her. I just said, we can't
- 11:00Speaker 2: the daddy daughter to date until the house is tidy.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I can tide it or we can work on it together.
- 11:03Speaker 2: You choose, and she said no help, And I said, great,
- 11:06Speaker 2: I'm going to do the kitchen. You choose and tell
- 11:09Speaker 2: me what you want to do. And so she said,
- 11:11Speaker 2: I'll do the dining room. I was like, okay. And
- 11:14Speaker 2: she had the dining room done before i'd done a
- 11:16Speaker 2: third of the kitchen. And she showed me and I
- 11:19Speaker 2: inspected and I said, oh, well, I can see three
- 11:21Speaker 2: things over there, but other than that, that's perfect. And
- 11:23Speaker 2: I said, I've still got it all the kitchen to
- 11:24Speaker 2: do. Do you want to do anything else to do. We
- 11:26Speaker 2: just want to wait. And she said, now I'll do
- 11:27Speaker 2: the bathroom, and then she did the lounge room, and
- 11:29Speaker 2: then she did the bedroom, and then she vacuumed the
- 11:32Speaker 2: kitchen was messy. It took a while, and by the
- 11:35Speaker 2: time that was all done, she was in the best
- 11:37Speaker 2: mood we'd been working together. Got it all done, jumped
- 11:40Speaker 2: in the car, drove down to Milulla Bar and parked
- 11:43Speaker 2: the car in the car park, walked up to the
- 11:44Speaker 2: gelato shop, bought her her rich dark whatever it.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Is chocolates, that chocolate.
- 11:49Speaker 2: I love the chocolate gelado. And then we came home.
- 11:52Speaker 2: She ate all of it. I kept on trying to commit,
- 11:54Speaker 2: So what do you have half now and half tomorrow.
- 11:56Speaker 2: You'd be really glad you've got some tomorrow. And she
- 11:59Speaker 2: just said, no, my sister, like she was convinced, if
- 12:01Speaker 2: I put in a freezer, I'm not going to get
- 12:03Speaker 2: the other half. So she made it all right.
- 12:05Speaker 4: There and then and then we sat down, laid down
- 12:08Speaker 4: in bed. I read her a reader, a chapter of
- 12:10Speaker 4: the book that we're reading together, and she went off
- 12:12Speaker 4: to sleep, and I just thought, Ah, this is what
- 12:14Speaker 4: it's about. We got to talk about really cool stuff.
- 12:17Speaker 4: We had fun conversation the whole time, and she really
- 12:20Speaker 4: wanted to chat. Kids want us in their lives. They
- 12:23Speaker 4: want that quality time. And I'm just looking forward to
- 12:26Speaker 4: every Wednesday night that I'm home when you go out
- 12:28Speaker 4: for this youth night.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Because I'm going to make it a thing daddy daughter
- 12:31Speaker 2: to night with Emily down at the Gilato shop. I
- 12:35Speaker 2: think I'm want a winner. We really hope that helps
- 12:37Speaker 2: to inspire you and make your family happy. Thank you
- 12:40Speaker 2: so much for listening, especially if you've listened to all
- 12:42Speaker 2: one thousand and two episodes. What a feat The Happy
- 12:47Speaker 2: Family podcast is produced by Justin Rowland from Bridge Media.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Craig Bruce is our executive producer, and if you'd like
- 12:52Speaker 2: more info about making your family happier, we'd love to
- 12:56Speaker 2: help you out. Our details are at happy families dot com.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Have a great weekend to run