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Bonus Episode: Funky Snakefoot, Following the Truth, and A Full Embrace of the Criminal Lifestyle · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before
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Speaker 1: we get into it, I wanted to fill you in
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Speaker 1: on all the great content we've got for you this
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Speaker 1: week here in Disgraceland. We just released an archive episode
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Speaker 1: on The Beach Boys Part One, and then tomorrow we've
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Speaker 1: got The Beach.
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Speaker 2: Boys Part Two for you.
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Speaker 1: Over in the bad Lands Feed, check out a brand
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Speaker 1: new episode on Harrison Ford, and don't miss a new
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Speaker 1: episode on our new kid show music Land Stories, which
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Speaker 1: is a collaboration here at Double Elvis with Starglow Media.
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Speaker 1: Episode four just dropped in that show's feed. And after
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Speaker 1: taking last week off for the holidays, we're ready to
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Speaker 1: rock again. So let's get into it, shall we. Hey, discos,
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Speaker 1: need a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch.
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Speaker 2: To get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the
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Speaker 2: podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland.
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Speaker 1: The after Partie, Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, A
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Speaker 1: little thing we like to call the after Party. This
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Speaker 1: is the show after the show, the party after the
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Speaker 1: party of the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other.
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Speaker 2: The backyard to dig into the dirt.
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Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about, among other things,
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Speaker 1: our two part re release on the Beach Boys, and
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Speaker 1: of course your voicemails, texts, dms and more, and as always,
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosy. All right, this goes, let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. Happy New Year, everybody. Listen, We're back.
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Speaker 1: We're back sort of. Okay, we're doing a little archive
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Speaker 1: dip into the archive this week. Keep the feed rocking,
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Speaker 1: give you guys some content to keep you happy before
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Speaker 1: we get right back into the new.
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Speaker 2: Episodes next week.
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Speaker 1: This week, however, in Disgraceland, parts one and two of
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Speaker 1: our classic two part episode on the Beach Boys, specifically
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Speaker 1: about Dennis Wilson, brother, of course to Brian Wilson and
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Speaker 1: Carl Wilson. Dennis was the band's drummer, but also the
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Speaker 1: inspiration for all of the songs about all the sort
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Speaker 1: of surf culture that the Beach Boys covered in the
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Speaker 1: early sixties. Dennis Wilson, he was the beach boy who
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Speaker 1: actually surfed, kind of like how Levon Helm was actually
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Speaker 1: the guy in the band who was actually from the South.
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Speaker 1: But I digress. Dennis Wilson, however, got caught up in
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Speaker 1: a lot of darkness. You know the story started hanging
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Speaker 1: out with Charlie Manson, and you know what happened from there.
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Speaker 1: Not going to get back into it here, you got
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Speaker 1: to hear it in the episode. The reason we're playing
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Speaker 1: you these Dennis Wilson episodes this week is because there's
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Speaker 1: a heavy New Year's theme and we just thought it
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Speaker 1: made sense. So check it out. You'll hear in this
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Speaker 1: story the traditional narrative of about Charles Manson and about
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Speaker 1: the murders at the Tate household, in the LaBianca household,
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Speaker 1: and the narratives surrounding Helter Skelter put forth by Vincent Buliosi,
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Speaker 1: who wrote that book and prosecuted Charles Manson. I believed
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Speaker 1: this story wholeheartedly up until about, I don't know, a
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Speaker 1: year after I wrote these episodes, so basically my entire life.
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Speaker 1: And I read Helter Skelter when I think I was
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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years old, and it put me on
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Speaker 1: the trajectory to do what I do now. It started
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Speaker 1: my obsession with true crime, a different kind of true
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Speaker 1: crime obsession, not like you know, I'm not obsessed in
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Speaker 1: the modern way, but I am obsessed in my own way,
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Speaker 1: especially when true crime meets up and rubs up against
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Speaker 1: history like it most certainly does here with a lot
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Speaker 1: of historical figures, a lot of cultural icons, and that's
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Speaker 1: kind of what we do here. So this is the
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Speaker 1: perfect story. And I knew I was going to tell
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Speaker 1: it at some point, And like I said, I believed
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Speaker 1: this narrative, and I believed what I put forth in
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Speaker 1: these episodes up until about a year after I wrote them.
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Speaker 1: And that's because I ended up reading the book Chaos
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Speaker 1: by Tom O'Neil, which is a Tom O'Neil is a
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Speaker 1: journalist and he spent I don't know twenty something years
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Speaker 1: writing this book, and it nearly destroyed his life, quite
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Speaker 1: literally almost destroyed his life. And the reason for that
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Speaker 1: is he started following the truth as he was discovering
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Speaker 1: it in his investigation, which was an investigation he set
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Speaker 1: out to do. It just sort of unfurled before him,
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Speaker 1: and he just kept following it like any good journalists.
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Speaker 2: Would do, following the truth.
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Speaker 1: Despite the incentives and the incentive structure not being there
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Speaker 1: and being anything buttoned incentive structure, he had no incentive
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Speaker 1: to keep following the truth, yet he did. And what
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Speaker 1: he came up with is a well sourced journalistic spine
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Speaker 1: that supports in undergirds and provides the scaffolding for a
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Speaker 1: lot of what was once deemed crazy conspiracy theories about
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Speaker 1: the Manson murders. Now, Tom O'Neil, I don't want to
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Speaker 1: misrepresent what chaos that book is, but it does not
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Speaker 1: validate all of the kook job conspiracies that are out
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Speaker 1: there about Manson.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot.
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Speaker 1: But what it does do is it completely submarines Vincent
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Speaker 1: Bugliosi's theory of helter skelter, the one that has been
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Speaker 1: accepted for years, and it does so with facts and
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Speaker 1: evidence and in a way that you just cannot deny.
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Speaker 1: When you read this book and you look at the sources,
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Speaker 1: that's the key, and you think about the incentive, that's
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Speaker 1: the other key. The author, the journalist had no incentive
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Speaker 1: to follow the truth. It hurt him to follow the truth,
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Speaker 1: Yet he did, which tells me that it's true. It
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Speaker 1: tells me the guy's not trying to sell books. He
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Speaker 1: couldn't sell enough books to make up for what this
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Speaker 1: book did to his life. Okay, when you read the book,
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Speaker 1: you'll understand, and you know he's gone on.
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Speaker 2: You know he went On.
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Speaker 1: Not only did he go on a book tour, I think,
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Speaker 1: I guess now that I think about it, I've never
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Speaker 1: really heard an interview with him, but despite reading that
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Speaker 1: book twice, but he had many people out there talking
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Speaker 1: about this book at a time. I remember hearing Quentin
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Speaker 1: Tarantino talk about it at a time when Quentin Tarantino's
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Speaker 1: Manson related film Once upon a Time when Hollywood was
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Speaker 1: out there, And that's a particular type of movie. It's
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Speaker 1: more of a love letter to Hollywood than it is
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Speaker 1: any sort of that it pretends to be any sort
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Speaker 1: of like real historical document. It doesn't do that. And
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Speaker 1: Tarantino has his own angle and his own point of
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Speaker 1: view clearly, but he believes a lot of what is
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Speaker 1: in the Tom O'Neil book, and it changed his mind,
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Speaker 1: as it did to many others. And then you go
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Speaker 1: back and you start to read. You read The Family,
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Speaker 1: you read, you read all these other books that were
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Speaker 1: sort of dismissed over the years, books about Charles Manson,
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Speaker 1: and then you start to go, oh my god, this stuff,
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Speaker 1: this stuff was right on, and you look at how
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Speaker 1: Tom O'Neill explains the actual history of Hollywood in the
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Speaker 1: sixties and where Dennis Wilson, our subject, rubs up against
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Speaker 1: Charles Manson and you start to go, holy shit, We've
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Speaker 1: been being lied to for decades, everything we thought was wrong,
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Speaker 1: and then you look at the Helter Skelter story and
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Speaker 1: you just go, I can't believe I bought this load
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Speaker 1: of shit. The Beatles in a race war and Charles
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Speaker 1: Manson is king of the world. God unbelievable. Anyways, like
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Speaker 1: I said, I didn't come to that knowledge until about
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Speaker 1: a year after I wrote these episodes, and I read
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Speaker 1: Tom O'Neil's Chaos, and from there it just spun me out.
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Speaker 1: It spun out Zeth, who writes obviously I talk about
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Speaker 1: Seth all the time, who writes here at disgrace Land
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Speaker 1: and bad Lands and Double Elvis. But it spun me out.
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Speaker 1: And we've created numerous other episodes that try to sort of,
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Speaker 1: you know, write the record in my mind, and we
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Speaker 1: did the The two that come to mind that are
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Speaker 1: that most strongly make Tom O'Neill's case, I think, are
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Speaker 1: the two Cass Elliott episodes about Mama cass Elliott from
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Speaker 1: the Mamas and the Papas. We did a sort of
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Speaker 1: Rashman Answer episodes to cass l in Disgraceland. We did
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Speaker 1: two Sharon Tate episodes over in the bad Lands feed.
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Speaker 1: Sharon Tate was Mama Casse Elliott's best friend, and those
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Speaker 1: those episodes are more than just in conversation with each other.
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Speaker 1: There's sort of mirror images of each other. And it
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Speaker 1: was a really cool creative angle that we took. I
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Speaker 1: wrote the EPs, Zeth wrote the Sharon Tate episodes, encourage
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Speaker 1: you guys to check them out as as that as
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Speaker 1: two related pieces. And then of course we did the
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Speaker 1: Charles Manson episode and looked at his music career specifically
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Speaker 1: and how that related to the Bouliosi narrative in the
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Speaker 1: bullshit of the Bouliosi narrative, actually, so Helter Skelter, the
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Speaker 1: greatest selling true crime book of all time by Vincent Buliosi,
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Speaker 1: is in my mind, a large crock of shit, and
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Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately it influenced me as it has countless others,
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Speaker 1: And the results of that are in those two Dennis
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Speaker 1: Wilson episodes that you're going to hear. Don't let that
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Speaker 1: sway from listening to them, okay, because the thing we
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Speaker 1: do in these episodes is we really find our way
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Speaker 1: into sort of the horror creative of Disgraceland, and as
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Speaker 1: a produced piece of content, I'm very proud of it.
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Speaker 1: And I'm also very proud of how we treated the character,
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Speaker 1: the real life character of Dennis Wilson, which is a
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Speaker 1: very complicated one. So I encourage you, if you're new here,
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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of you are, after hearing
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Speaker 1: this bonus episode, check out the Dennis Wilson episodes from there,
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Speaker 1: go on and listen to the cast Elliott episodes and
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Speaker 1: then the Charles Manson episode. You will not be disappointed.
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Speaker 1: And I think what I'm gonna do with all of
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Speaker 1: these Charles Manson episodes.
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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to.
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Speaker 1: Put him into a book or some sort of graphic
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Speaker 1: anthology something like that, and I released them later in
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Speaker 1: the year because I feel like it's a good it's
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Speaker 1: a strong document. Put some cool art to it could
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Speaker 1: be really cool. Anyways, all right, that's it on what
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Speaker 1: we got going this week. I'm gonna take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: I really got to drink some tea. My voice is
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Speaker 1: shattered this week recording so much back in a flash
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Speaker 1: with some emails, voicemails and texts from you guys later.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight. Hit me up if you
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Speaker 1: have any questions about the Dennis Wilson episodes, or any
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Speaker 1: of the Charles Manson content that we've put out, or
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Speaker 1: anything that I just said here earlier in the bonus episode.
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Speaker 1: I know it's confusing. I know it's weird guys when
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Speaker 1: you just you hear someone telling you, like, look, everything
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Speaker 1: you've heard is wrong. What I'm saying now is right.
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Speaker 1: I know that's a fucking weird thing to open your
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Speaker 1: ears up to. So if you have any specific questions,
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys who for all the
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Speaker 1: engagement over there. I want to thank all the new
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Speaker 1: I respond that way, and of course I respond through
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Speaker 1: the DMS. We've been trying to figure out, even before
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Speaker 1: this growth, this recent little growth spurt we've had, We've
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Speaker 1: how we better speak to each other in a way
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Speaker 1: that isn't just about me answering every DM and every
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Speaker 1: text and every voicemail that I can, I can't answer
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Speaker 1: them all clearly, or even every email, but just I've
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Speaker 1: been thinking, how do we all sort of talk to
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Speaker 1: each other. There's a lot of I talked to a
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Speaker 1: lot of you daily, and some of you talk to
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to do this efficiently where we're
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Speaker 1: all sort of in some sort of digital community every
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Speaker 1: day talking Disgraceland, talking Disgraceland content, talking music, talking true crime,
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Speaker 1: talking dark stories about icons, because that's what we do,
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Speaker 1: talking about recommendations, the music we love, the movies we love,
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Speaker 1: all of that, the whole conversation, how do we do
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Speaker 1: it together? How do we do it regularly? How do
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Speaker 1: we do it in a way that isn't choked out
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Speaker 1: by an algorithm, and I've put some ideas out on
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Speaker 1: Instagram last night heard back from you guys. I'm recording
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Speaker 1: this early, by the way, I'm recording this what is
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Speaker 1: it December twenty second, so I can take some time
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Speaker 1: off with my family next week and not have to record,
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Speaker 1: So I guess yeah. Last night I put some ideas
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Speaker 1: efficiently speak to each other and specific There's this thing,
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Speaker 1: this group chat technology that we can all get into,
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Speaker 1: and there's multiple ways to do it different platforms. But
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Speaker 1: I just want to shout out all of you who
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Speaker 1: like he'll send me a Spotify link and I can
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Speaker 1: how many of you are actually going to see that?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like, this is this type of stuff I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out. So I just wanted to shout those of
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Speaker 1: Like I said, all right, let's do let's answer some emails,
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Speaker 1: let's answer some texts, and let's hear some of your voicemails.
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Speaker 1: All right, This email comes from Jason Bain. By the way, guys,
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Speaker 1: Jason writes, Hey, Jake, my favorite Christmas song is and
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Speaker 1: I'm biased, but it's Jingle Jangle by Kay Kaiser. The arrangement,
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Speaker 1: We're big Woody Woodpecker fans in this house. I try
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Speaker 2: Christine. It's your lucky day, your lucky week. This week.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I recorded not one, but two episodes on
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Speaker 1: All right, soon, actually very soon, very soon in the
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. That's how you hit
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Speaker 3: Hey Jake, Kevin Bosh calling from the three to one four,
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Speaker 3: just say happy holidays to you. I've been a listener
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Speaker 3: pretty much from day one. I think I discovered you
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Speaker 3: somewhere around episode fifteen. Of course, went backwards listen to the
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Speaker 3: first fourteen and I've been listening ever so enjoy your content,
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Speaker 3: and just wanted to say things. Man, I just got
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Speaker 3: done listening to your bonus episode where you're telling us
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Speaker 3: how thankful you are as listeners. Well, I just want
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Speaker 3: to tell you how thankful I am as a listener.
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Speaker 3: It's an absolute joy to have you in my life.
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Speaker 3: So cheers hoped, My best to you and yours.
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Speaker 1: Take care, Kevin, Merry Christmas man, Happy holidays to you.
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate this. I hope you're having a good holiday.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for reaching out. I meant what I said in
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Speaker 1: that last bonus episode. Grateful for you, grateful for all
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Speaker 1: the listeners. I hope you had a good holiday. All right,
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Speaker 1: Happy New Years. Check out this one from the five to.
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Speaker 3: wanted to say, yeah, Clapton is not God. He can't
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Speaker 3: But anyway, I've been married Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Justin thanks for the voicemail. Yes, yeah, you might be
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Speaker 1: honest up in there and let me you might be
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Speaker 1: onto something. Let's check out this one from the two
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Speaker 1: oh three.
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Speaker 4: This is John from the two o three. How about
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Speaker 4: an episode on the great Lenny Bruce, the father of
20:13
Speaker 4: modern comedy? Maybe you've already done it and I missed it,
20:17
Speaker 4: but I hope to see it soon. I mean hear it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up John? Great idea?
20:22
Speaker 1: You know, I actually had to stop and think, did
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Speaker 1: we do an episode on Lenny Bruce? And I don't
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Speaker 1: think we have? And yeah, I think maybe we combine
20:30
Speaker 1: the feeds this year, and that's, uh, that's something we
20:33
Speaker 1: end up doing in the Disgrace Sland feed. Lenny's about
20:35
Speaker 1: as big of a nicon as you can get when
20:37
Speaker 1: it comes to, uh stand up comedy. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: check out this one from the seven to six'.
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Speaker 4: Five, Hey Jake adriana from the three one seven with
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Speaker 4: a seven sixty five phone.
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Speaker 1: NUMBER i just wanted to ask if you've heard of
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Speaker 1: the Band Great.
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Speaker 3: White they weren't around for very long because they were
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Speaker 3: the ones to cause The station nightclub fire that killed
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Speaker 3: one hundred people and injured two hundred third it is
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Speaker 3: a crazy story whenever.
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Speaker 4: It comes to fire. Regulation anybody who knows anything about
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Speaker 4: that probably knows this story. Too all that happened just
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Speaker 4: from negligence and, arrogance and, ANYWAY i think you'd really be.
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Speaker 2: Interested all, Right, Bye, Adriana thanks to the.
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Speaker 1: Voicemail yes we. Are actually we have this one in
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Speaker 1: the works right. Now my, dad who my dad is
21:23
Speaker 1: researching this one for, us and he spent some time
21:27
Speaker 1: down In, providence you, know not a connected, guy but
21:30
Speaker 1: a guy who saw some. Stuff so this is very
21:34
Speaker 1: interesting for him to. Research And i'm pumped to get
21:37
Speaker 1: into the story and to tell IT I i already
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Speaker 1: have an idea of how we want to do, it all.
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Speaker 2: Right from the eight six to, oh, Hey.
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Speaker 4: Jake been a fan Since Big lunch first EPISODE i,
21:48
Speaker 4: heard And i've been home since.
21:49
Speaker 3: Then BUT i.
21:50
Speaker 4: Can't listen to them too frequently BECAUSE i need time
21:54
Speaker 4: to absorb.
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Speaker 1: It eight, Six so thanks for the. Voicemail appreciate. It,
21:59
Speaker 1: yeah they're dense up. Episodes we pack a lot into,
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Speaker 1: them SO i get. It but as long as you're
22:04
Speaker 1: listening to eighty six to, oh that's all that. Matters
22:06
Speaker 1: thanks for your, support all, right guys gonna take a
22:08
Speaker 1: quick break back in a flash with some. Texts all,
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Speaker 1: right let's do some text six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight the three one oh rights In.
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Speaker 1: Jake by the time you see, this it'll probably pass
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Speaker 1: the after party where you're gonna talk about non Traditional christmas.
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Speaker 1: Tunes goes without Saying fairytale Of New york by Good Old. Sheen, uh,
22:41
Speaker 1: yeah you. Know And ryan goes on to, say and
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Speaker 1: it's a direct descendant by my boys From, Quincy Dropkick
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Speaker 1: murphy's The seasons upon, Us Merry, christmas rock AND Rollo, Ryan,
22:51
Speaker 1: Ryan you're absolutely. Right we're gonna we're gonna do a
22:54
Speaker 1: Proper shane McGowan episode Of disgraceland in twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty Four christmas. Season BUT i think
23:04
Speaker 1: if you go to My instagram At Disgraceland, pod you
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Speaker 1: will find a recent little tribute To shane McGown that
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Speaker 1: you'll be into THREE o three Rights In Hey bonus,
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Speaker 1: Episode Mariah, carey did you really say beat That Bing? Crosby,
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Speaker 1: sorry dark sense.
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Speaker 2: Of, Humor.
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Speaker 1: But if you, know you, KNOW i, know, Man, YEAH
23:26
Speaker 1: i GUESS i did say. It and, Uh i'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna explain what THREE o three is saying, there but
23:33
Speaker 1: you guys can do a little Bing crosby research on your,
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23:41
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23:43
Speaker 1: Holiday recommendation was received and as, always spot, on here's
23:48
Speaker 1: My Merry, Christmas, Baby White Christmas. Perfection, yeah you, know
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Speaker 1: that oldest writing song and That William bell song are
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight semi a, voicemail se. Text
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Speaker 1: let me know how Your New year's, Going let me
24:01
Speaker 1: know how you Celebrated New Year's let me know what
24:04
Speaker 1: you got For New Year's. Eve music that you're, into all,
24:07
Speaker 1: right hit me up six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six six three eight voicemail and text at, disgracelam, Pod,
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Speaker 1: instagram x, TikTok, facebook, everywhere also on. YouTube someone wrote
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Speaker 1: to me the other, day and forgive, ME i don't
24:21
Speaker 1: know who it was AND i can't dig it out
24:23
Speaker 1: of MY dms right, now but someone asked me what
24:25
Speaker 1: the origin of the phrase rock a rolla, is where
24:29
Speaker 1: it came, from and WHY i say it in every
24:32
Speaker 1: episode Of, disgraceland at the end of every. Episode and
24:35
Speaker 1: now you guys say. It you write to me all the,
24:37
Speaker 1: time rock AND, rolla rock AND, rolla rock AND. Rolla
24:41
Speaker 1: it's a great, saying Isn't It just feels good coming
24:43
Speaker 1: off your. Tongue that's how it.
24:45
Speaker 2: HAPPENED i didn't plan on saying it WHEN i said.
24:49
Speaker 1: IT i just said it WHEN i was recording that first,
24:51
Speaker 1: episode and THEN i said it again WHEN i recorded the, second, third, fourth,
24:54
Speaker 1: Fifth and you know, what up until about the sixth
24:56
Speaker 1: or seventh, EPISODE i wasn't even sure what it. Meant
24:59
Speaker 1: and and it ended up being a thing fairly quickly
25:03
Speaker 1: with you guys who started to engage with me once
25:05
Speaker 1: the podcast was released originally way back in twenty, eighteen
25:09
Speaker 1: you guys started, writing writing to me and signing things
25:13
Speaker 1: rock A. Rolla and it occurred to, Me, Gee, jake
25:16
Speaker 1: you should really try to maybe figure out what the
25:19
Speaker 1: fuck it is you're saying and broadcasting out to all these,
25:21
Speaker 1: people or podcasting out.
25:23
Speaker 2: To all these people on a regular. Basis SO i
25:26
Speaker 2: looked it.
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Speaker 1: UP i of course knew it was A Judas priest,
25:29
Speaker 1: song AND i knew The Judas priest, song AND i
25:31
Speaker 1: loved The Judas priest. Song that's not WHY i said,
25:33
Speaker 1: IT i just LIKE i, SAID i just said. It
25:37
Speaker 1: SO i looked up the meaning of, it and in
25:40
Speaker 1: one of those sort of holy spirit moments synchronization whatever
25:44
Speaker 1: you want to call, it, synchronicity the, universe however you
25:48
Speaker 1: look at, things it was just. PERFECT i looked this
25:52
Speaker 1: up and the meaning of rock A Rolla i'm paraphrasing,
25:57
Speaker 1: here but it basically means a full embrace of the criminal.
26:01
Speaker 1: Lifestyle AND i think that comes from the movie RockA,
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Speaker 1: rolla WHICH i still to this day have not. SEEN
26:08
Speaker 1: i even have A rock A rolla tattoo that a,
26:10
Speaker 1: Listener danny From Los, angeles gave to. Me it's two
26:14
Speaker 1: handcuffed hands with rock And rolla on the. Knuckles But
26:20
Speaker 1: i've never seen that, movie AND i don't Think i'm
26:21
Speaker 1: gonna see the. Movie BUT i just, thought, damn that
26:26
Speaker 1: makes total sense for a podcast Like. Disgraceland so there
26:30
Speaker 1: you have. It there's the origin story Of rock A.
26:33
Speaker 1: Rolla and AS i was thinking about this over the
26:37
Speaker 1: past couple, days relative to the after, party, here the bonus,
26:41
Speaker 1: episodes the content that we make it occurred to me
26:44
Speaker 1: that there's a rock And rolla moment many rock And
26:47
Speaker 1: rolla moments in our, episodes frequently regularly where the subject
26:54
Speaker 1: just does something where you're just, LIKE i can't believe
26:57
Speaker 1: that motherfucker just did. That that's the Rock a, moment
27:00
Speaker 1: AND i can't. Believe i've never organized my thinking in
27:03
Speaker 1: this way, before But i'm going to start BECAUSE i
27:08
Speaker 1: find that these, moments these holy shit moments that we
27:12
Speaker 1: come upon in the research and that we write about
27:16
Speaker 1: and that we include in our podcast, episodes and That
27:18
Speaker 1: i'm now sort of making these little videos On instagram
27:21
Speaker 1: With they're in part what gets you guys, stoked all,
27:26
Speaker 1: Right So i'm giving them a. Name they're now the
27:28
Speaker 1: rock And roller. Moments i'll be hitting them here in
27:30
Speaker 1: the after. Parties you'll be hearing about.
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Speaker 4: It.
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Speaker 1: RECOMMENDATIONS i want new music from you. GUYS i don't
27:37
Speaker 1: mean new like it was made. RECENTLY i mean, SHIT
27:39
Speaker 1: i have not heard it's the new. YEAR i want
27:42
Speaker 1: to be psyched on. MUSIC i want to BE i
27:44
Speaker 1: want to be reaching for my phone playing new. Stuff
27:47
Speaker 1: i'm going to leave you guys with. This, okay this
27:50
Speaker 1: is my recommendation for. You search Out Funky snakefoot By Alfonse. Mouzon,
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Speaker 1: okay and then play the Song Funky. Snakefoot if you're
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Speaker 1: hip hop, fans this isn't hip, hop but if you're
28:02
Speaker 1: hip hop, fans you're going to recognize that this song
28:05
Speaker 1: has been sampled like crazy and it is. Incredible All,
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Speaker 1: right there you. Go that's my, recommendation Al Fonse, Mouzon Funky.
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Speaker 2: Snakefoot what a?
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Speaker 1: Eight that's how you get in touch with. Me you
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Speaker 1: At Disgrace. Lampod you can email Me Disgrace lampod at
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Speaker 1: gmail dot. Com let's recap this, thing shall? We number
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Speaker 2: that's a. Disgrace.
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