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  This is HBr News number four oh four, Burning Vam, Proud Boys prosecuted.
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  F's in the chat for Vice Media where we discussed the stories of the
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  week and give it the Badge of Treatment. Hello everyone, and welcome to
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  Honey Badge or Radio. I hope you guys are enjoying your day so far,
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  whatever wherever you may be. And this is the new show. I'm
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  my name is Brian. I'm joined by my lovely co hosts Hannah Mike and
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  doctor Randmercam. On today's show, we're gonna be discussing the up and updates
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  regarding the Epstein calendar which was released last week Vice and also, just as
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  a side note, BuzzFeed appear to be going under the Proud Boys are charged
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  with seditious conspiracy and more so, tune in it's going to be a good
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  on this week's I saw this interesting article from Fox News, but it was
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  in the Marvel movies. But she was also in the Hobbit trilogy playing an
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  Anyway, she has come out and this is like not easy for anyone in
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  So first we're gonna talk about Jeffrey Epstein. So let's start with that,
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  because we did start this conversation. So we're gonna finish it. We're gonna
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  see it through. So documents obtained by The Wall Street Journal show meetings between
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  Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, the financier you guys might have heard of him,
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  I don't know, and several prominent people. The new lists show the pedophile
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  met with CIA chief former White House consul after his child sex crime conviction.
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  William Burns, a director of the Central Intelligence Agency, allegedly met with Epstein
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  when he was the Deputy Secretary of State in twenty fourteen. The documents also
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  show gnam Chomsky, who I used to like, but I was really young
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  and naive then. The author, activist and professor was also scheduled to fly
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  with Epstein and have dinner in his Manhattan home in twenty fifteen. According to
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  The New York Post, Chomsky said he wanted to discuss political and academic subjects
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  with the well connected financier Catherine Rummeler Rumler, who served as White House counsel
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  under President Barack Obama met with Epstein dozens of times in the years between her
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  White House career and her next job as an attorney at Goldman Sachs. The
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  report said some on the list said that they thought he had been rehabilitated.
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  Most of the people included in the thousands of pages of emails, thousands of
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  pages and schedules from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen told the journal that they met
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  with Epstein because of his wealth and connections. Epstein also met with Arianne de
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  Rothschild, chief executive of the Swiss private bank Edmund d Rothschild Group, and
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  Joshua Cooper Ramo Hope, I'm not butchering that former co chief executive of Henry
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  Kissinger's corporate consulting firm. Yeah, all we got for thousands of faces.
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  Yeah, nobody ever meets with like the creepy guy that hangs out in an
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  alley right and watches kids at the park, or some schoolteacher that aped or
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  students, and you know, nobody meets with those guys after they've been convicted
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  because they think they've been rehabilitated. Nobody, nobody meets with you know,
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  missus Robinson to discuss matters of education because they think, oh, well,
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  you know, it's been what a year, a couple of years, she's
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  all better now, she's not a pedophile anymore. Like no, no,
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  um, I'm not buying this bullshit. And it's not like the guy is
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  the only financier in the world, right, So either either these people are
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  all meeting with him because of his connections, which is still suspect because anybody
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  that was connected to him while he was a criminal is suspect, and I
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  mean they were connected to him while he was a criminal, or they're meeting
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  him because he's a pedophile. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's all a
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  bit of a damp squib, really, isn't it. It's certainly not the
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  world changing dirt we were looking for. It's mostly a bunch of unknowns we've
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  got. We've got a former CIA chief of former White House staff of,
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  former consulting executive, and a Banckett presumably a former Bancket. None of them
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  are going to face any consequences, let alone get arrested. They're all already
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  retired from whatever position of responsibility they ever had, so they're not even going
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  to get fired or canceled as we call it non Chomsky is practically dead at
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  this point. He's looking like an act. He's looking like an actual gnome.
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  Yeah, a garden gnome one one that's been lying in a ditch getting
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  eaten by worms for a hundred years. So these he's not much of a
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  threat anymore. Dude can barely speak. It is interesting that two Obama officials
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  met with him during the Obama administration. They were not retired or out of
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  their positions when they met with him their former now when we're reporting it,
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  but at the time of the meeting, they were current. Well, I
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  mean I think I don't think they're telling us. I mean, obviously they're
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  not telling us. Everybody on the list, No, No, is there
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  picking some chum to throw in the water, that's all yea, yeah,
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  it's it's it's pretty obvious that we're only being shown the tip of the iceberg.
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  We don't want these randos. We want Bill Gates, we want the
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  Clintons. You want the people who are still affecting the world and are still
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  being listened to. We want to hold you want to hold a shadow over
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  their legacies so we can get it through to the normies of the world.
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  That these assholes are never to be trusted by anyone ever again, and not
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  just because of the ties to the nonsing. Maybe they weren't even involved in
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  the nonsing Bill Clinton probably was. It wouldn't surprise me at least. But
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  I think I do, you know, I think what Epstein did a lot
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  of the time was invite people onto his boat and onto his island, perhaps
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  genuinely, to talk about just, you know, shady financial dealings. And
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  then he pulled out the underage sex slaves and went, surprise, surprise,
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  You're on candid camera right in the heart of pedophile ring. So you'd better
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  do what I say, or this ship is getting leaked to the public.
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  And he did it over and over again, and hey, presto, he's
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  got countless billionaires in his pocket, along with the media conglomerates they control.
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  That's why he got away with it for so long. That's why the media
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  never talked about it, and that's why he got quote unquote suicide. But
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  yeah, like I said, whether or not these corrupt billionaires actively part disipated
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  in the nonsing is not even the point. The shady financial deals are the
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  point. Whatever they were, whatever they were, they were probably even more
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  illegal than the nonsing. According to the courts, there was nonsing going on,
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  because that's what Maxwell was charged with. But you've always got to ask
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  yourself, what aren't we're being told? Is that there's always something and it's
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  always even worse than whatever we are being told, and we're probably we're probably
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  never going to find out. We like to think the truth always wins,
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  that the truth always comes out, but it obviously doesn't. The best we
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  can feasibly hope for is that the history books draw a suspicious question mark over
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  the legacies of Bill Gates and the Clintons rather than a spotless, glowing review
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  of their perfect altruistic philanthropy and nothing else. I mean, I'm not confident,
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  so I'm going to keep shaking my fist anyway in vain. I'm sure
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  about whatever. Let me remind you something that is related to that. The
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  US Senate and Congress had a slush fund that was when um, ah shit,
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  I can't think of his name. I always all I can think of
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  is Stewart Smalley. Every time I I, um, it's al shit,
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  that's not his name anyway. Um, he was a congressman got got ousted
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  for taking a stupid funny picture, um, with his hands not touching a
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  woman. Al Franken, thank you? Um when when he got ousted,
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  uh for for taking a stupid funny picture with his hands, a picture of
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  him not touching a woman. Um. I just I just have to point
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  that out, because what the fuck? Like they have a slush fund.
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  They have a slush fund to pay off interns and other employees who alleged sexual
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  misconduct against people within the congressional offices. Now, who do you think that's
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  for? Who do you think that's to protect? Like, a's not to
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  cover my ass, It's not to cover your ass. It's not to protect
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  the interns. Right, So they had a whole fund set aside. They
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  have this happened so much that they had a whole ass fund set aside to
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  pay off accusers who are usually in their early twenties and some of them in
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  their late teens. Interns at in Congress and in the Senate and in the
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  White House are young people. They're not fifty, they're twenty, they're nineteen
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  twenty one. You know what was Monica Winsky is like twenty three years old?
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  Like really young people, and that's who that was for. That's who
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  that was to pay off. So if you think that there's nobody in power
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  involved in this Epstein thing, think again, Right, that's because that's bologny.
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  Um. Why why would they need a whole ass fund set aside to
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  pay off accusers? Why they had to sit down and vote on that,
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  So that wasn't something that, oh gosh, we just accidentally created a a
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  petal slush fund for for those who have teenagers in their office, and a
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  and a sexual harass or slush fund for those who just have adults in their
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  office. Um like huh no, right, Like that's they knew this behavior
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  was happening, and it was happening enough, and it was happening long enough,
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  and it was bad enough and threatening to become public enough that they created
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  a cover your ass fund and that fund, that fund has been there,
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  you know, until until they decided to kick some guy out of Congress for
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  not touching a woman in public. Yep, Jojo thought, Um, I'm
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  curious about the Rothchild connection. This is really starting to sound like something four
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  shit. I believe that the people that Arianda Rothchild and Edmund de Rothchild I
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  think they are part of the rothchild, like the people you've heard of,
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  and the nome Chomsky thing doesn't surprise me. There seems to be like a
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  weird lane between commies and nonsense. But I think we're all figuring that out
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  now. So but you know what I would like to know. I mean,
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  everything that you guys have brought up is something I'm really curious about.
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  And I don't expect that it's going to come out because there's way too many
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  powerful people who are you know, probably implicated in this and don't want it
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  getting out. But one thing I am wondering about is that whenever we talk
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  about like the supposed, like the not supposed, but the sex slaves that
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  he keeps on his island, I wonder how many of them are boys,
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  because it only comes up that it's girls. And yeah, sure that's probably
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  right, and that's probably a majority. I don't know, but there's no
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  mention of boys. And I'm and I have a feeling there are male sex
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  slaves there. Because you know, the whole like sex trafficking thing, it's
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  always framed as a women's issue. I don't think it's entirely that I think
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  there are boys that are that are you know, trafficked as well, and
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  um, I would just i'd like to know. I don't know that that
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  those uh you know this this information that leaked is going to go there,
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  but I would be really interesting. Well, it's worth pointing out that female
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  sex slaves of any age are more valuable than male sex slaves, largely because
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  most people are heterosexual. And if this is reflected in a lot a lot
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  of the shadiest parts of the Muslim world, m most at least a great
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  deal of sex slavery is Yeah, the sex slaves are young boys because it's
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  against the pervading religion to violate a good little devout Muslim girls. And it's
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  the same reason that so many pedophil rings in the UK and the other various
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  parts of the world they've invaded very much trade in female sex slaves because they're
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  more valuable. The only reason they fuck boys in Islamic countries is because they
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  can't get girls, because it would be wrong to do it to girls.
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  But but nobody gives a ship if you fuck boys, which is why,
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  which is why when they come to the UK and other places, they're like,
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  we can get girls, we can get girls now, did you know
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  that? And they're just as cheap as the boys because what they really want
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  is girls. They they only resort to boys when it's all they can get.
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  So when it comes to the likes of Epstein and his island, I
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  would imagine, given just how absurdly rich and powerful he is, I would
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  imagine they would be mostly girls because he can afford them, You know what
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  I mean? Yeah, that's a good point. Anybody else have any thoughts
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  on this Epstein follow up? Okay, So then with that said, we're
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  gonna move on. Let us know what you guys think about this in the
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  comments. I know it's not like a ton of information, but at least
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  something's coming out. Hopefully someone will remain vigilant enough to keep digging and keep
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  revealing more. I wonder, I actually wonder if somebody's releasing these little tidbits
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  to basically scare the person that's got you know, or the entity. I
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  shouldn't say person, because it's probably a legal entity that's got the information the
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  public really wants. Yeah, and say, you know, everybody pretty much
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  within the spectrum of wealthy and powerful either met with Epstein or one of Epstein's
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  representatives and everybody can be connected to Epstein one way or another. Give us
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  our names or work going to let your name out or your name's out,
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  and maybe that's maybe that's what this is all about. Yeah maybe, uh
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  yeah, that that's that's certainly possible. I guess. Well, I don't
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  know. I hope we learn more as all I can say. Um,
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  this should be a much bigger deal than the media is making it out to
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  be. But of course, of course that's the case, right, So
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  okay, come out as these people's usefulness draws to a close. Yeah,
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  yeah, that's what I think. I think that there are people on that
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  list that are still too important and then there are some that can be tossed
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  the side. And that's the I think we got that. So all right,
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  so we're gonna move on to next story. Let us know what do
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  you guys think about this? In the comments? Who do you think is
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  like, is there going to be more information? Do you think this is
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  gonna be memory hold? If if there is more, who do you expect
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  to find on that on that list? Let us know in the comments.
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  So before we go to the next story, which is about vice, we're
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  gonna read a super chat. So Albert Nada Retro gives us five dollars and
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  fifty cents Canadian and says, everybody knows Epstein died of Clinton implication halitosis.
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  All right, thank you, Albert, and let me just look and see
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  if I miss any super chows. No, I got one. Meredith Chi
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  Meredith Gezorry gives us five dollars and says, HBr news four oh four,
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  honey for the Badgers. JE, that's Jeffrey Epstein met with government officials.
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  I'm shocked, just shocked. Actually I'm not. Je. Connections run deep
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  given his business partner's father, Robert Maxwell, is rumored to be a triple
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  agent. Wow, that's a lot of intrigue. That's like three levels of
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  intrigue. Would I would also like to say that Jeffrey Epstein appears to be
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  like the personification of it's not what you know, it's who you know.
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  Like that. I think that's literally what it is, right that all saying,
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  So anyway, let us know what you guys think about this in the
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  comments. Now we're going to talk about something that's I think is good news.
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  So Mike jam I head it up to you well, maybe not all
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  good, but we'll get to that. So the heyday of the ALTI media
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  giant of Vice News could be at an end. The outlet, which wants
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  focused on documentaries and boots on the ground style journalism but then shifted to progressive
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  in social justice slanted essays, now faces the very real possibility of bankruptcy.
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  Two sources have told Breitbart that the company has been desperately looking for a buyer
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  and that's so far they've had no such luck. The company, which previously
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  held an estimated worth of over five billion dollars, released in a statement Monday
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  that quote, we are engaged in a comprehensive evaluation of strategic alternatives and planning
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  the company. It's board and stakeholders continue to be focused on finding the best
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  path for the company. End quote. So translation, we're kind of fun
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  m m. But in a late breaking development, according to reports from The
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  Wall Street Journal, Vice is on the cusp of finishing a deal with Fortress
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  Investment Group and Soros Fund Managements acquire the outlet for the sum of roughly four
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  hundred million dollars. See tempting though it is to talk this up to the
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  get Woke, Go broke paradigm. It's it's not necessarily the case, certainly
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  not always. Vice has been around for years, and it's been woke for
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  like the last ten of those years. Give I'll take, which is a
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  really good innings, all things considered. Media companies rise and fall all the
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  times. It's natural cycle. We just don't remember them after they've fallen.
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  All all kinds of non woke outlets have folded before they've even gotten anyone's radar.
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  Meanwhile, the likes of the New York Times and the Washington Post and
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  the Wall Street Journal and The Guardian and Disney and Netflix and any given TV
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  station ending in BC have been around for decades. They've always been left leaning.
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  But they're still going strong because they're too big to fail. That's that's
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  that's where the George saurus is of the world pump all their funding because there's
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  such crucial pillars of propaganda. I suppose Vice, much like BuzzFeed, much
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  like various other Gorkhas subsidiaries, never quite made it to the heights that get
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  that kind of attention. One can only assume they made the mistakes that Twitter
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  was making before Musk bought it, and they employ hundreds of useless woman child
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  degenerates, whom they pay a small fortune to write one short article a month
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  if they do anything at all, and they employ diversity officers whose only job
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  is to bring in diversity hires who slowly tanked the company with their obvious incompetence.
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  Massive companies can afford to do that. Moderate operations like or at least
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  intermediately. Wealthy operations like Vice, evidently cannot. That's that's the degree to
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  which get woke go broke is arguably true, but it's not going to make
• 24:45
  any difference to the rise of work propaganda. What are the readers of Vice
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  going to do when Vice is no longer operating. They're going to keep reading
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  the NYT and the WSG and the Guardian and so on. Sure, and
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  as the smaller companies get shaved away from the stack, you'll end up with
• 25:06
  just a handful of absurdly wealthy woke publications where everyone gets their news. And
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  all this does is make the propaganda even more homogeneous and hegemonic. Eventually,
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  of course, there'll just be one outlet left, one outlet of state approved
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  propaganda, possibly on a global scale, and it will be even woker than
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  you can possibly imagine, because there will be no competition, all within the
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  state, none outside the state, none against the state, and the whole
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  world will be one state. Ironic is it not that this kind of global
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  fascism is being brought about by people who think they're fighting against fascism? Good
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  God, people are stupid. Lord. There's an element to which this is
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  fake. Um. One of the things that happens in media is if you
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  remember back in the old days when you used to get a newspaper delivered to
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  your house and paperboy would come around for us two dollars every so many days,
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  then get chased around the neighborhood by people and bikes going two dollars.
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  I went by two dollars for the movie reference, But that that two dollars
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  didn't pay for the newspaper. It paid for the delivery. Really, the
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  newspaper was paid for by the advertisers, and a newspaper wouldn't survive without advertising.
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  You got ads, or you had to charge a lot more. You
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  had to charge magazine prices for your newspaper. And if you didn't have some
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  really you know, great hard hitting, exciting news in your story, or
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  you weren't a shit tabloid that that wrote about the incredible bat boy. You
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  weren't getting and they got. Those guys got ads too, by the way,
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  But but you weren't getting um people to buy to pay to read your
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  newspaper, to pay magazine prices to read your newspaper. So papers that couldn't
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  keep their circulation up couldn't charge as much for their adsum. The paper I
• 27:32
  worked for was a small town newspaper sold around the county, but it was
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  small like and it's heyday. I think it had maybe seven thousand, five
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  hundred circulation throughout the entire county, which mostly was in the community itself.
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  And it got bought out the couple that owned it when they retired UM a
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  company. It bought the newspaper in the community next door I guess you could
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  say, about ten miles east of US, and it bought our newspaper,
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  and I think also the newspaper in a community to the south of US,
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  and they were combined as one organization, and reporters went back and forth and
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  photographers went back and forth, and a lot of the work that was done
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  was centralized in the printing press area at the newspaper where I worked because it
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  had the biggest printing press, and that's what's happening here. Vice probably lost
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  out on AD revenue, and they probably lost out on readership, But where
• 28:55
  they really lost out on ad revenue was other publications going well, yeah,
• 29:00
  you can, you can buy an ad with us and we'll put your ad
• 29:04
  in these seven publications. And Vice is going, well, you know,
• 29:11
  if you buy an ad with us, you get to advertise with Vice.
• 29:15
  Tada. And the advertisers are going, oh, we'll pay for this ad
• 29:19
  in these other seven publications. So the advertising gets squeezed out, and maybe
• 29:26
  the other seven publications are owned by Soros, and Soros just watches Vice die
• 29:32
  and then swoops in to buy it up. And this is how conglomerate media
• 29:37
  grows. They buy up different media. They give advertisers these great deals on
• 29:45
  ads, where well, if you buy an ad with us for this publication,
• 29:48
  we'll also put it in these other publications and you'll get this mini views
• 29:53
  as opposed to what other people are offering you with a smaller package for the
• 29:57
  same price. And of course the advertisers they need people to see their ads,
• 30:03
  so they're going to go with the better deal. And then that provides
• 30:08
  the conglomerate. They haven't price fixed, right, they haven't engaged in monopolistic
• 30:15
  practices that are illegal. It's not illegal to give somebody a great deal.
• 30:18
  They haven't said to anybody, don't advertise with Vice, none of that.
• 30:26
  All they did was give a better deal and boom, you know, pretty
• 30:32
  soon they get another and another. So I don't know how much of this
• 30:36
  is Vice going woke and going broke versus Vice just not being big enough to
• 30:41
  compete anymore. And the fact that Soros swooped into scoop it up like right
• 30:48
  away. One day that's the news as Vice might be going bankrupt the next
• 30:52
  day Soros is going to buy it kind of tells you he was watching this
• 31:00
  just so you know. So, yeah, sure, there's there's there's a
• 31:03
  lot of fakeness in this, and that's this is just media does this all
• 31:07
  the time. Well, I guess that's all I wanted to point out,
• 31:12
  all right. I just wanted to say though that, um, despite all
• 31:17
  of that, I think that advertisers they advertise, but websites that get traffic.
• 31:23
  So if Vice is not getting the same traffic, then that could be
• 31:27
  the reason why advertisers are pulling out or going with someone else. And sure
• 31:33
  Vice isn't as big as The Guardian um or the New York Times, But
• 31:38
  um, I think that if you look at like the wider picture of journalism
• 31:44
  in general, like CNN is firing people left and right, and um,
• 31:48
  their their ratings are horrible, right, Like like Tucker Carlson put out a
• 31:52
  video from his basement and he beat everybody because like another one less than two
• 32:00
  hours ago and it already has over five million. Yeah. So so like
• 32:04
  what I'm what I'm getting at is, um, of course, people like
• 32:08
  deep with deep deep pockets like Sorrows are gonna try to like you know,
• 32:14
  uh, take whatever advantage they can get so they can keep on pushing,
• 32:17
  you know that, whatever their propaganda, their lies, whatever. But what
• 32:22
  I think is this is a sign of is not necessarily get woke, go
• 32:25
  broke. Because I wasn't making that case. I never thought that you can
• 32:30
  actually make a company implode because you are just not buying their products. You
• 32:36
  know, like bud Lights still exists, but they're not going to do any
• 32:38
  more of those fucking ads. Just like Gillette, they still exist, but
• 32:43
  they're not gonna do anyone of those fucking ads. They haven't done it in
• 32:45
  years because they know where their bread is buttered. So we don't necessarily need
• 32:49
  them to collapse, We just need them to stop it, and then they
• 32:52
  did. So, like I think with Vice, it was always woke.
• 32:58
  I think that even when they were doing this kind of like guerrilla on the
• 33:00
  ground, going to the Middle East type of journalism, they still had that
• 33:06
  same kind of, you know, progressive mentality. It's just that when there's
• 33:10
  no longer like you know, like a George W. Bush in office that
• 33:15
  you can like essentially just show the shit that he's doing, then you have
• 33:20
  to make things up, so you start talking about white privilege and patriarchy and
• 33:23
  all that. But they already knew that. That's like if you go to
• 33:27
  school for journalism, that's what you're going to learn. So you know,
• 33:30
  unless you're like a resistant person that says, you know what, I don't
• 33:34
  know if I buy this, you're just gonna like total line because that's what
• 33:38
  education is. So I think that what I take away from this is Vice
• 33:45
  and BuzzFeed, who fired like fifteen percent of their staff, and they're also
• 33:51
  like, you know, in danger of going But I think they've filed for
• 33:54
  bankruptcy or something. So that is to me at least evidence that people like
• 34:02
  are not going to those websites in such large numbers. So you can advertise
• 34:07
  there, but if no one sees your ad then you, you know,
• 34:10
  like you may have wasted your time and your money. So why wouldn't you
• 34:14
  advertise on a website that gut does get traffic? Does that mean that you
• 34:16
  know you're going to see like the New York Times and the Washington Post and
• 34:22
  the Guardian, all these like essentially get whatever whatever people don't no longer go
• 34:29
  to Vice? Yeah. Probably. But the point is that I think that
• 34:32
  if I think that people's attitudes are changing, and I think it's coming out
• 34:38
  in like what websites they choose to go to, you know what, what
• 34:44
  what they choose to spend their time consuming in terms of their news and their
• 34:50
  opinion pieces and so on, And I think it's having an effect. And
• 34:52
  that's why I'm happy about it. I mean, I don't expect that Advice
• 34:55
  is going to disappear. I know that the people who work there at least
• 35:00
  they're going to find other stuff to do. You know, They're gonna keep
• 35:01
  doing their journalism or their activism or whatever it is. And sure, people
• 35:07
  like Sorrows and other you know, billionaire like philanthropist types are going to invest
• 35:13
  in them. But that's fine, throw all your money at that if you
• 35:16
  want to. I think that regular people, though, might be starting to
• 35:22
  wise up. And I think that's what that that's really the important takeaway,
• 35:25
  although I can't confirm it to be sure, but based on what I've seen,
• 35:30
  based on like all of the stuff that's going on, how we get
• 35:35
  like a new controversy like every week, um, and there's these companies are
• 35:40
  shutting down. I mean, I'm expecting Fox News to file at some point,
• 35:45
  but that's only because Tucker left and they Tucker was like their life support.
• 35:52
  Yeah he was Fox News. Like people didn't watch Sean Hannity after they
• 35:57
  ousted him. Yeah, So yeah, there, their their weightings are gonna
• 36:01
  go in the toilet, and that's fine. And maybe some like is it
• 36:06
  maybe Warren Buffett or something, No, not him, but like maybe some
• 36:08
  billionaire will invest and keep it afloat. But the point is is that they
• 36:13
  do have to spend money on that, and I don't think it's gonna work
• 36:16
  out. So I mean, you know, in the probably not in my
• 36:20
  lifetime. But I think that it's it's it's showing that there is like a
• 36:25
  shift, you know, happening with the people. And I think that's where
• 36:30
  it really matters in my opinion. It does. It does show there's a
• 36:32
  shift with the people. Um, but in terms of UM, like the
• 36:37
  bankruptcy itself and everything is it's kind of the the bat signal for time to
• 36:45
  add this this media to the conglomerate between um, between left wing publications.
• 36:52
  Now, like you you'll you'll want to be real suspicious if Sorrows buys Fox
• 36:59
  News, if somebody else does, that would be different. But if if
• 37:02
  Sorros buys Fox News, then that that should tell you something. Well,
• 37:08
  I think there's a reason why nobody really watches Fox except for Tucker, and
• 37:13
  I think it's because it's like it's it's boomer journalism, Like it's it still
• 37:17
  lives in like the Reagan era, a lot of it, and people are
• 37:22
  the lot of that there. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot
• 37:24
  of rhino shit. There's a lot of neo conshit. People don't want that,
• 37:29
  like you know, they they that's that's the thing. Like, so
• 37:31
  it can you know. I mean I think that if if if there was
• 37:37
  like if Sorrows bought Fox, I think a lot of people would not be
• 37:39
  surprised. They'd be like the people there that would leave, I think there
• 37:44
  they should. They would head for head for the hills real fast. Yeah,
• 37:49
  you know, there's there's a few of them like I would expect,
• 37:52
  for instance, Shannon Breen would get the hell out of there real fast because
• 37:55
  Soros doesn't like Christians and she is always talking about her religious beliefs. Um.
• 38:01
  Yeah, so that would be that she'd be out. But I think
• 38:07
  that some of the newer, younger right wing um or independent media would be
• 38:15
  willing to pick her up. But yeah, well again making Kelly, she
• 38:21
  loved Fox. I think she's doing really well. I don't watch her,
• 38:24
  but she heard you're making Colly Megan Kelly's calling Fox News. What was that?
• 38:30
  You're what Makan Kelly's calling Fox News as a late No? What fox
• 38:35
  wiser? God? Yeah, So I'm just saying like, well, obviously
• 38:43
  media is changing. Fox News didn't kill itself, Um, I mean it
• 38:50
  kind of did it. Actually, what's funny is somebody had pointed out,
• 38:55
  guess the owner of the what's the name of the sans Dominion, Dominion,
• 39:07
  the owner of Dominion, the company that owns Dominion owns Fox News. Uh,
• 39:15
  that's weird, and it was the Dominion lawsuit was apparently the reason that
• 39:20
  Carlson was ousted. I don't know, Yeah, which is possible because I
• 39:25
  mean he was he was on them pretty hard about things, and uh,
• 39:32
  like there were some things that that you know, this is something that a
• 39:37
  journalist should be able to do as long as you do it honestly. Like
• 39:42
  when we've talked about the questions that people had regarding the election, like,
• 39:47
  we don't know the answers to those questions. That's why they're called questions.
• 39:52
  Um, those are their concerns people had, right, Yeah. Those The
• 39:59
  point that we always made when we talked about this is in order for people
• 40:05
  to have faith and trust in a system, the system has to demonstrate that
• 40:09
  when those questions and concerns come up, they get addressed in a transparent way
• 40:15
  that everybody is satisfied with the result, not in that they like what the
• 40:21
  result is, but they're satisfied that the result was arrived at honestly and fairly,
• 40:28
  in with no shenanigans. And we didn't get that that was not what
• 40:32
  happened this last time around. So there are still a lot of people with
• 40:39
  a lot of questions, a lot of concerns, and a lot of suspicions
• 40:44
  because of the way it was handled when the original questions, concerns, and
• 40:49
  suspicions came up. And I think if you could say anything was a mistake
• 40:55
  that Tucker Carlson did was that he didn't quite give that impression when he talked
• 41:00
  about stuff. He made some more definitive statements about this happened or that happened
• 41:07
  had and you have to have absolute, solid, rock solid proof if you're
• 41:13
  going to say that, like come out and say you know, so and
• 41:15
  so did this, or this definitely happened, and here's why we think this
• 41:22
  definitely happened. So that gave them an opportunity to while you're out of here,
• 41:30
  you're the cause of this lawsuit. And they settled with Dominion. If
• 41:35
  Dominion was not owned by the same company as Fox, and the people calling
• 41:40
  the shots above both companies were different people, it might be possible that battle
• 41:46
  might have been fought out to the end and turn around and said, well,
• 41:50
  no, he didn't nobody slandered anybody. This discussion was happening all over
• 41:55
  the country. To say that Fox being part of it is you know,
• 42:00
  uh a slander or defamation was wrong or whatever. You know, it might
• 42:06
  have been a totally different result, but you know, he kind of got
• 42:09
  caught in the gears there. The thing is, uh, it's a it's
• 42:14
  a mistake for the company to let him go. Um, they're going to
• 42:16
  discover that he's going to be bigger at some other company, and that company
• 42:22
  is going to end up eclipsing Fox. Right. Yeah, but again when
• 42:29
  you look at when you look at how this played out, it goes back
• 42:35
  to that sort of fake fake news kind of element. Um, it wasn't
• 42:42
  It wasn't organic, right, Rice going bankrupt isn't organic. Um, and
• 42:50
  sorrows swooping in and picking up Vice isn't organic. So when when we look
• 42:55
  at media, media changes, um, things that are said and establishment media
• 43:06
  and things that are not said or talked about an establishment media, just remember
• 43:15
  you look and find out who owns those conglomerates. Vice is not an independent
• 43:22
  company. I don't think. I think they're already owned by another company.
• 43:24
  Yeah, and they're right, So this is This may be a company selling
• 43:32
  to itself. This may be a company selling to another company. This maybe
• 43:37
  I'm not I'm not going to use terms that imply um illegal things necessarily,
• 43:45
  but this may be shuffling the funds around like a deck of cards. Vice
• 43:51
  is owned by Vice Media. They for the moment, they are okay,
• 43:53
  so they are their own company. But yeah and like they are still they're
• 43:59
  still a prev Oh okay, yeah, so they are an independent company then,
• 44:05
  um but uh but Fox is not right. Yeah, so there may
• 44:09
  have been you know, a bit of a dollar shuffle going on there.
• 44:14
  Yeah, and that's probably something that just just from hearing interviews about his life
• 44:22
  with the man, I doubt Tucker Carlson would have stuck around there very long
• 44:24
  if he could have gotten out of his contract anyway with that stuff going on.
• 44:30
  Like, yeah, just when it comes to the media, you're talking
• 44:36
  about the biggest sleez pit, Like Congress is probably not as sleazy as the
• 44:45
  American mainstream press. Sure, and Congress is pretty fucking sleazy. Politics.
• 44:52
  Politics have the biggest represent or reputation for being sleazy. The media is worse.
• 45:00
  M hmm, just just telling you, of course, Yeah, I
• 45:02
  think we all figured that out. The way that they've treated us. Yeah,
• 45:07
  the way they treated us people should know. But um, all right,
• 45:12
  so we got to move on to the next story. But for like
• 45:15
  twenty minutes. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead. Um. So, the
• 45:21
  way that I've heard it explained as far as Fox News or not Fox,
• 45:24
  He'm sorry, Fice News was starting up, was that they were focused on
• 45:30
  sort of this as they described it, a sort of punk rock view of
• 45:36
  journalism. They wanted to do a lot of guerrilla journalism, boots on the
• 45:40
  ground stuff like that, like this is where um Tim and a lot of
• 45:46
  this information I'm about to say does come from Tim, So I mean trusted
• 45:51
  as much as you trust him. And he says that, yeah, things
• 45:57
  were like that for a while. They were allowing him to do his um,
• 46:00
  you know, foreign correspondence, which he really liked to do. He
• 46:04
  was he went to a ton of different places, and everything basically changed all
• 46:10
  at once. It was an overnight thing where they came to him and basically
• 46:16
  said like, hey, we're not going to do so much of this correspondent
• 46:22
  stuff. We're not going to be you know, doing these like you know,
• 46:23
  trips to like the Middle East and Ukraine and stuff like that. We're
• 46:28
  basically hard pivoting to progressivism and social justice. And when he's like, why
• 46:37
  are the hell are we doing that, he said, they described that this
• 46:43
  is what this is what the algorithm says, this is what tests. Well,
• 46:47
  this is around two thousand and six or sorry, sorry, twenty sixteen,
• 46:52
  twenty seventeen, Trump was elected exactly. Yeah, there was another reason
• 46:59
  too, And this is more or less publicly available knowledge. You can go
• 47:02
  look this up. Around twenty seventeen is when a lot of allegations started coming
• 47:10
  out about sexual impropriety. Let's just say that much too concerning some of the
• 47:17
  yes, well that well me two style accusations say that didn't come out till
• 47:23
  much later, concerning Vice and some of the executives and Tim, and he's
• 47:35
  told the story a few times, basically says like one of the higher upset,
• 47:38
  you want to make this stuff all go away, to start pivoting hard
• 47:44
  towards feminism, start pivoting hards towards women's rights, social justice, progressive liberalism.
• 47:52
  Yeah sure, And that's when you really saw it explode. And that's
• 47:54
  when Tim said, I'm not sure I really like it here anymore, and
• 48:00
  he kind of wrote out the rest of his two year contract and they approached
• 48:04
  him again and we're like, hey, we want to have you on for
• 48:07
  another couple of years, will pay you all this money. And he was
• 48:08
  like, yeah, I'd rather not. And that's when he went off and
• 48:13
  did his own thing. Yeah, so something that something that people will remember.
• 48:22
  When we went to the International Men's Issues Conference in twenty fourteen, VICE
• 48:28
  came and covered us. They did a whole thing, interviews and everything with
• 48:34
  a bunch of the honey Badgers and did a whole publication on us and stuff.
• 48:39
  And then just a few months after it was published, when the hashtag
• 48:47
  gamer gate started really blowing up on Twitter, they changed the title to something
• 48:57
  like from from you know, some innocuous just title about us in men's rights
• 49:04
  to these women think women who were raped were asking for it or something along
• 49:10
  those lines, like, so they were woken, they were woken twenty fourteen.
• 49:17
  Well, there were I mean, I would imagine that a lot of
• 49:21
  people worked. There were, but there were enough people that were trying to
• 49:24
  do other journalism. But that doesn't mean that they weren't influenced by their bias
• 49:30
  in any way. Right. So that's what I mean when I say,
• 49:32
  you know, they're always left leaning, that goes That's what i'm That's what
• 49:36
  I'm saying, Like they're they like, I don't want to get into the
• 49:40
  political part. But all I'm saying is wokenus is not far away from being
• 49:45
  left leaning. It's not far. It's it just takes a little push,
• 49:49
  you know, the wrong guy gets elected into office or something right. And
• 49:52
  if you have a lot of women there, women tend to lean that way,
• 49:57
  like just in their nature. So that's what you're gonna get. But
• 50:00
  anyway, that that all that assigned because we have we have three more stories
• 50:05
  to get to. But I just I really love to finish up my thought
• 50:07
  if I oh, yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, I okay,
• 50:10
  go ahead twice. So pivoting closer to where we are now. One of
• 50:17
  the things that has happened is everyone knows that journalism saw something called the Trump
• 50:23
  bump. Basically, any anything, any story, whether it would be about
• 50:30
  tennis, ball manufacturing to politics to marine biology, if you included Trump in
• 50:37
  some manner in there, your story would get ten times more engagement. And
• 50:42
  that has absolutely been drying up in the past two years. Yeah, and
• 50:46
  it's something you're seeing just the downswing of journalism as a whole. I don't
• 50:53
  know if anyone, either anyone here or anyone who listens to us also frequents
• 51:00
  Clownfish TV. Yeah, they're another they're another YouTube channel that also has like
• 51:07
  a news site to them, and they said, it's just so hard to
• 51:10
  find ad rates now, it's so hard to pay who they have on that,
• 51:15
  like bringing in other people is just not possible. And that's one of
• 51:20
  the biggest things that I believe hurt Vice in the long run. And the
• 51:23
  fact too also that they courted a sort of lefty sort of culture in their
• 51:32
  own ranks. That's something that also hurt them, because I do believe I
• 51:37
  remember, I think one or two years ago, they started threatening to strike,
• 51:44
  threatening to you know, do a union action if they weren't paid more.
• 51:47
  And the problem was since most of the money that they had was venture
• 51:51
  capital, because as many people know, these journalism outlets live and breathe on
• 51:54
  venture capital, and when that money is no longer there, there's not a
• 52:00
  lot to show for after that, right, and so it's like, yeah,
• 52:05
  okay, we can pay you guys this twenty dollars an hour you want
• 52:07
  or whatever, but then we're going to have to fire half of you.
• 52:13
  And that's exactly what they've been doing. And up to this point, you
• 52:16
  know that that's fine. You know, you can always trim a few extra
• 52:20
  people, because you've always got some people that are just useless and doing nothing,
• 52:23
  sitting around clogging up an office. Yeah, but they're getting to the
• 52:28
  point where the rubbers meeting the road and they just the money ain't there anymore.
• 52:32
  The venture capital is completely dry, and they've got nothing to show for
• 52:37
  it because again, their brand of journalism is kind of on the way out,
• 52:42
  this highly opinion based social justice that's a style thing. It's just it's
• 52:49
  gone. Nobody wants it. I mean, I guess if, like if
• 52:52
  Trump runs and wins in twenty twenty four, that they might get that bump
• 52:57
  again. But I don't know. I mean, I think that like like
• 53:00
  it's like I said, you know, like you said, I think people
• 53:01
  are sick of this and they're just not tuning in like they used to.
• 53:06
  And you know that's that is for me. That's if that's true, that's
• 53:09
  the win. I don't care. I don't want VICE to necessarily implode.
• 53:14
  I don't want those people to lose their jobs. I want them to main
• 53:17
  to remain like, like, you know, productive members of society. Um.
• 53:22
  But if if like the audience has spoken, you know, like info
• 53:27
  Wars has you know, remained on the Internet despite all of the censorship and
• 53:31
  all of the repression that they deal with from YouTube and Google and stuff.
• 53:37
  Um, and they're still they're still running and so and they're not like you
• 53:40
  know, um, I mean there there's there's definitely an audience. Tucker Crosson's
• 53:45
  killing it. We'll see, like if he starts something. I heard that
• 53:50
  he was in talks with Elon musk Uh and so there's like, I don't
• 53:52
  know, I don't want his announcement today if you I don't think I didn't
• 53:57
  watch that. His announcement basically said he would be returning in a show style
• 54:01
  format on Twitter. Yeah so nice Elon musk So. And the thing is
• 54:08
  is that like most of the work of pushing back against this stuff comes from
• 54:14
  the people at the bottom, and it's not even work. All you gotta
• 54:15
  do is like literally just don't go to those websites. Don't give people who
• 54:20
  hate you your money. And that's always that's always been the mantra I think
• 54:28
  of get what go broke, which is more like a sentiment. It's not
• 54:31
  a reality. But I think most people know that. I think most people
• 54:35
  know that. But at the end of the day, like, what if
• 54:37
  it doesn't work, does that mean you give him your money anyway? No,
• 54:40
  don't be stupid. Just don't participate and just let it, let it
• 54:45
  go right, some people will go along with it. You can't change those
• 54:50
  people's minds. You can't force them, you know, to go to somewhere
• 54:52
  else. All you can do is not participate. And then if you have
• 54:55
  friends or people around you, you tell them you know what, I'm not
• 54:59
  doing doing this and this is why, and let them make up their own
• 55:01
  mind. And I think that's enough. I think I honestly think that's enough.
• 55:06
  So can I I'll be as quick as possible. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 55:09
  say it. Fox News is controlled opposition, always has been. Maybe maybe
• 55:16
  that wasn't the idea originally, but it seems almost too convenient. Yeah,
• 55:21
  every other channel is able to point at Fox News and go, look look
• 55:24
  at how right wing the establishment media is. This is why we need to
• 55:30
  exist, so that someone out there is able to point out how right wing
• 55:34
  everyone is. Yeah, if if Fox disappeared tomorrow, what would the likes
• 55:40
  of the Daily Show do do all their jokes about random random as that's who
• 55:45
  isolated kuks, who they can lie about with impunity, They'd have to clutch
• 55:50
  at straws trying to point to any burned edge of right wing talking points that
• 55:54
  still exist anywhere in the world, while quietly whistling at the pervasive fact that
• 56:01
  the entire network and cable media is unapologetically biased in favor of the Democrat Party.
• 56:07
  And when any normal person points out, hey, it seems like the
• 56:13
  entire media industry is controlled by the Democrat Party. What they're gonna say If
• 56:16
  they can't do the woe Jack point at Fox News, they don't have a
• 56:22
  leg to stand on. So let's see what happens if Fox News goes under.
• 56:25
  Let's see you can still keep up this lie. Well, I think
• 56:30
  that that the left wing is in any way the resistance, the rebellious,
• 56:34
  anti corporate, plucky freedom fighting under They'll still try it, but no one
• 56:42
  will believe them. No one but the fucking NPCs anywhere that focus all they
• 56:46
  have to focus all their negative energy on the internet, which is where they
• 56:51
  will go to die. Everyone drinks of that. Do you guys remember what
• 56:54
  made Fox News? Does anybody remember why Fox News became popular? It was
• 57:04
  like the only alternative I think, no, it was the only channel giving
• 57:10
  coverage to the O. J. Simpson case. Oh well that'll do it.
• 57:16
  And uh, you know, like the other channels ended up having to
• 57:20
  do things with the case because of Fox News. But everybody was glued to
• 57:25
  their televisions, watching Fox News and watching um the discussions about the case,
• 57:35
  watching the case be the testimony aired, UM, watching the commentators opine over
• 57:42
  gilt or innocence and corruption in the in the police departments and everything, UM,
• 57:49
  and in particular the whole planting evidence, making up a case about a
• 57:55
  famous black man and then making the case in court thing that that that's not
• 58:04
  a right wing talking point. Yeah. I remember that period of time very
• 58:10
  clearly because I hated how many times my cartoons got interrupted. Yeah, oh
• 58:16
  yeah, yeah, sure. I watched that with my dad, UM,
• 58:22
  and we were baffled by by the case because it was like there was there
• 58:27
  was all this evidence that like there was plenty of evidence on both sides of
• 58:34
  UM. The argument as to whether or not the evidence against Simpson was um
• 58:43
  real valid evidence or or tampered with and stuff like that, and we both
• 58:49
  thought there should have been there should be a process to have a separate um.
• 58:53
  I don't know a full on separate hearing system for that that doesn't have
• 58:59
  any thing to do with the same judge and doesn't have anything to do with
• 59:02
  like they should have to present a case because that was such a weird case
• 59:06
  and everything. By the end of it, it just neither one of us
• 59:09
  could come to a conclusion until years later. But but in any case,
• 59:15
  I think a lot of people started watching Fox News, and there's there's been
• 59:22
  some evidence too the lot of people started watching Fox News because of that case
• 59:27
  that stayed with it, and it was I think most of them were probably
• 59:30
  boomers, but there's a lot of gen xers that watch that outlet, and
• 59:36
  it a lot of people who I think are more independent, with some left
• 59:43
  cleaning beliefs and some especially about corruption within the government not going away just because
• 59:51
  your favorite party gets into office and stuff like that. More like more libertarian
• 59:59
  beliefs and stuff stuck around because they were fed up with being spoon fed and
• 1:00:05
  when they went back to the other news agencies. They realized how different the
• 1:00:08
  reporting was. And I don't know, um, I think I think what
• 1:00:17
  Mike said about them being controlled opposition, there might be something to that.
• 1:00:23
  All right, Well, I get I mean, I'm I'm open and whatever.
• 1:00:29
  I don't watch Fox anyway, so but let us know what you guys
• 1:00:32
  think about this to come. I really got to move on because we got
• 1:00:35
  three stories and it's already been an hour and we still have three more to
• 1:00:39
  go, and I have these gigantic paragraphs of superchow, so oh nice.
• 1:00:45
  Michael Emerick gives us five dollars in a superchow and says, I've been saying
• 1:00:49
  that for a while. As these companies go bankrupt, and he puts that
• 1:00:52
  in quotes, they just get bought out by a couple of billionaires and al
• 1:00:58
  gormerated into huh aglomerated el glom. I think it means conglomerated maybe, but
• 1:01:07
  into an expanding giant Amiba. Yet halfwits will keep celebrating that Vice is dead,
• 1:01:10
  BuzzFeed is dead, Gawker is dead. The last time I check,
• 1:01:14
  Kataku and Jezebel are still around, and the very it's the very same in
• 1:01:19
  this very same form they were in before. Quit your stupid victory dances until
• 1:01:22
  you've actually made sure your enemy is dead rather than flailing around a Shakespearean death
• 1:01:27
  scene by you, I mean the royal you, not you guys. All
• 1:01:30
  I will say, just really quick about that, is that you're not gonna
• 1:01:36
  kill a company like that by just like, you know, by just refusing
• 1:01:40
  to, you know, go to their website or whatever you're It's not gonna
• 1:01:45
  happen. But if you save yourself by just not going there, then you
• 1:01:49
  won't be hit with all of their bullshit propaganda and all of their lies.
• 1:01:52
  And hopefully more people will do that and they'll wake up because the truth always
• 1:01:55
  comes out. And I think that despite the fact that Vice and BuzzFeed and
• 1:02:01
  Kotaku will exist in some form right, it doesn't matter because what it means
• 1:02:08
  is is that people are not absorbing the material. That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:14
  Like, back when BuzzFeed was putting out like listicals that let you know,
• 1:02:17
  like you know, which Disney princess you are, there were lots of
• 1:02:22
  people trafficking the site for that, and then they would get like, oh,
• 1:02:24
  here's some feminism like would you like a side of feminism with your with
• 1:02:29
  your Disney Princess quiz? Now people aren't going there in the same numbers,
• 1:02:34
  and I think that that is meaningful. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:02:37
  So they're not going to go away because these people are committed to like driving
• 1:02:43
  this shit into our brains. That's fine. You can, you know,
• 1:02:46
  go ahead, spend all the money you have trying to do that. As
• 1:02:50
  long as I know that people are not responding to it, then that's good
• 1:02:53
  enough for me. Yes, vice should definitely be committed. Yeah, ZARANX
• 1:03:00
  gives us five dollars, so thank you, Michael Emrick, and ZARENX gives
• 1:03:06
  us five and says HPR News four or four. The fact some couldn't see
• 1:03:08
  how much Trump was elevating everyone and put their best foot forward is why I
• 1:03:14
  laugh at the issues many are suffering. Now, Hannah might say that that's
• 1:03:16
  wrong, but I can't shake it, and I would rather embrace that feel
• 1:03:21
  that I feel that way rather than smother it. These people are pretty much
• 1:03:23
  laughed at. These people pretty much laughed at those who had lost their businesses
• 1:03:30
  and or killed or died in twenty twenty, I think you're referring to the
• 1:03:35
  summer of love, among other things. But thank you ZARANX for that.
• 1:03:39
  So that that's called schadenfreud. It is, Yeah, perfectly normal. Shouldn't
• 1:03:45
  be celebrated in people like everybody shouldn't be standing around going, yeah, you're
• 1:03:50
  mad at these people, so you are go ahead, something bad happened to
• 1:03:52
  him. Yeah, but it does happen. It doesn't make you a bad
• 1:03:57
  person to experience it. Yeah, it feels I think what you're what I
• 1:04:01
  think. It feels like it's kind of like a cosmic justice that perhaps is
• 1:04:06
  the case because people are losing their jobs at these places, or at the
• 1:04:09
  very least a heavy sense of I told you so. Yeah that there's definitely
• 1:04:13
  that. But anyway, so let us know when you guys think about this
• 1:04:15
  in the comments. I gotta move on to the next story, so let's
• 1:04:18
  do it. So Proud Boys. Last week, a jury in Washington,
• 1:04:24
  DC convicted four out of five Proud Boy defendants of seditious conspiracy in relation to
• 1:04:31
  the January sixth riot at the United States Capitol. This included Enrique Tario,
• 1:04:36
  the former chairman of the Proud Boys, who was not in Washington, d
• 1:04:40
  C. On the day of the brief So he wasn't at the White House
• 1:04:44
  or the or the Capitol on January sixth, just to be clear, Okay,
• 1:04:47
  but he is convicted. Other Chapter leaders charged include Ethan Nordeine, Joseph
• 1:04:53
  Biggs, and Zachary Rell Dominic Pizzola, a member of the Proud Boys from
• 1:04:58
  Rochester, New York, bypassed the conviction on seditious conspiracy for now but was
• 1:05:03
  hit with lesser convictions. The jury agrees that the government has proved the existence
• 1:05:09
  of a seditious a conspiracy, a charge that carries up to twenty years behind
• 1:05:14
  bars. From the Daily Wire quote. The only defendant who was accused of
• 1:05:19
  violence on January sixth was Pozzola, a member of the Proud Boys from Rochester,
• 1:05:24
  New York. He apparently used a riot shield that belonged to an officer
• 1:05:28
  to break a window pane on the western front of the US Capitol. Pozzolo
• 1:05:31
  was arrested way back in January of twenty twenty one and had remained in jail
• 1:05:35
  since. During the trial, the prosecution used private messages from Tario that they
• 1:05:41
  said showed the former leader taking credit for the riot. So this is Enrique
• 1:05:45
  Tario, who is pictured in the center there on the website Okay. In
• 1:05:53
  one message, for example, Tario wrote, quote, make no mistake,
• 1:05:56
  we did this end quote and then this is also from the article quote.
• 1:06:01
  The government also brought up a document outlining a capital takeover that was sent to
• 1:06:05
  Tario on telegram called seventeen seventy six returns. Tario did not directly respond to
• 1:06:12
  the Scent document and claims he never even saw it, let alone opened it
• 1:06:15
  up. From jail. Tario on April twenty fifth commented on the speech issue
• 1:06:20
  that was a large part of this trial. Speaking in general terms, Tario
• 1:06:25
  said, the government is trying to manipulate how people speak to each other privately.
• 1:06:30
  What they're trying to do, what people are trying to do. And
• 1:06:32
  this is in general, I'm speaking in general, is manipulate how we talk
• 1:06:36
  to each other in the locker room, the former Proud Boy leader said in
• 1:06:40
  a Twitter Spaces event. And it's not fair, it's just not right.
• 1:06:44
  It's not the justice system that you grew up with in Civics class learning about.
• 1:06:50
  So, I mean, it feels like the right thing for me to
• 1:06:56
  do here is go on an angry rant about the FBI on their informants and
• 1:07:01
  their covert operatives, and about how maybe they should be facing justice for whatever
• 1:07:08
  capacity for a dozen FEDS implanted in the Proud Boys at the time that they
• 1:07:14
  may or may not have been instrumental in instigating whatever negligible amounts of seditious violence
• 1:07:19
  actually took place on January the sixth, I might refer back to what I
• 1:07:24
  said in the second segment about how definitively fascist it is if everyone goes down
• 1:07:29
  except the centralized state approved agencies. I might refer back to what I said
• 1:07:34
  of the first segment about how these are the very people we need to hear
• 1:07:40
  about so that we can cast an appropriate shadow on the reputation of the otherwise
• 1:07:45
  legally immune magulomaniacs who controlled everything we see and here. However, it's very
• 1:07:55
  possible that later this week certain travel restrictions be lifted and I will once again
• 1:08:00
  be allowed to visit the shores of the United States of America. So,
• 1:08:03
  just in case that does happen, and just in case I find myself being
• 1:08:06
  pulled out of the line at customs and led into a small room behind a
• 1:08:11
  two way mirror, if there are any agents listening to what I'm currently saying.
• 1:08:15
  Let me assure you I love the FBI, the CIA. They are
• 1:08:20
  good and righteous and blameless agents of truth and justice. They have only ever
• 1:08:27
  acted in the best interests of the people, not just the American people,
• 1:08:32
  but the beautiful and innocent dreamers who so blamelessly try to enrich the United States
• 1:08:38
  with their diverse and tolerant ways. You are all heroes and saints, and
• 1:08:44
  I hereby prostrate myself at your feet as the lowly wrong skin that I am.
• 1:08:50
  January the sixth was nothing shot of a massacre for which only Trump supporters
• 1:08:57
  can be blamed. Worse than nine eleven, possibly worse than the whole worst
• 1:09:09
  than Civil War, it's worth worse than all of these things combined. Whereas
• 1:09:13
  the Summer of Love was just that, Ladies and gentlemen, those those fires
• 1:09:17
  were perfectly peaceful and entirely mostly peaceful and entirely, and for good measure,
• 1:09:26
  let's say they didn't have. America is a wonderful country, but yes it
• 1:09:30
  is a racist hellhole, which which can only be fixed by the Democrat Party
• 1:09:36
  and the marvelous government agencies which only ally with the aforementioned Democrat Party through through
• 1:09:45
  basic logic and compassion. I mean, for Heaven's sake, and if if
• 1:09:48
  I ever do become an American citizen, I promise I will be a Democrat
• 1:09:53
  voter for life, and I will do everything I can to help you strip
• 1:09:58
  all those racists of their evil guns. Long lived women, long live the
• 1:10:02
  trans community, long lived black people, long lived Joe Biden message. Yes,
• 1:10:08
  there you go, all right, welcome to you, Welcome to your
• 1:10:14
  new nineteen eighty four There guys, um. You know, Toorio fled with
• 1:10:19
  his family from Cuba to come here, and now he's in a jail cell
• 1:10:26
  um and it's it's in exactly the kind of situation that that he would have
• 1:10:30
  expected in Cuba. Exam. Yeah, he's like, this is familiar.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah, this is this is really fucked up, and this is um could
• 1:10:42
  be like the people who, you know, everybody that that was sort of
• 1:10:50
  mentioned in that little rant, the people that are pro gun prohibition, because
• 1:10:58
  there's there's no such thing is gun control. Gun control doesn't exist. There's
• 1:11:03
  gun prohibition and gun rights. And that's true, Hannah. But when I
• 1:11:08
  go to the range, I practice impeccable gun control. Yeah, that's muscle
• 1:11:12
  control. Um. And in any case, you know, like when when
• 1:11:17
  you hear about laws for gun control and stuff like that, that's a that's
• 1:11:21
  a euphemism. It's gun prohibition, um. And it is prohibition because the
• 1:11:28
  ultimate goal is every single gun that that is owned by a citizen and not
• 1:11:33
  the government. That's you know, the government wants to monopoly on guns.
• 1:11:39
  Now, all that people would celebrate that celebrated this, The people that celebrated
• 1:11:45
  mandating various things that you know, you are are required to do for your
• 1:11:53
  health and banning various other things that you are required to avoid for your health.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah, I would celebrate this. You know. The people that that
• 1:12:02
  celebrated the quashing of questions about the last election will celebrate this. But no
• 1:12:12
  mentally healthy, ethical, reasonable, rational, intelligent people will celebrate this.
• 1:12:19
  Well they shouldn't. So I just want to say real quick about this.
• 1:12:26
  Why did I pick this story? Because the Proud Boys, as in terms
• 1:12:33
  of the media narrative. Okay, so I'm not saying this is true about
• 1:12:38
  them per se, but the Proud Boys, according to the media narrative,
• 1:12:43
  and I'm talking about groups like the SPLC and the ADL as well, they're
• 1:12:46
  basically lumped in with us, and that's how they're They're basically considered in the
• 1:12:55
  way, at least according to these people, part of the Manisphere, part
• 1:12:58
  of the pro mail, you know, male supremacy movement, right. Um.
• 1:13:03
  I think that they do care about masculinity. I know that Tario's talked
• 1:13:09
  about it as a concern of his, but they are primarily they're just antique
• 1:13:14
  communist, which I'm totally fucking on board with. But um, I'm saying
• 1:13:19
  this because if they if they're able to do this to them, and I
• 1:13:24
  know that their high profile and they stand out and all that, but if
• 1:13:28
  they're able to do it to them without any you know, they can just
• 1:13:30
  spin up a story and say, oh, these guys are you know Nazis,
• 1:13:34
  Like, yeah, the Afro Cuban Nazi, I know about that,
• 1:13:38
  um that came running away from Castro's Cuba with his folks. Sure, and
• 1:13:45
  they'll they'll say all this stuff about them, and you know, stupid people
• 1:13:47
  like Hannah was talking about, um, they'll buy into it. So,
• 1:13:53
  um, what is there to be for any other people that have any association
• 1:13:59
  with the Manisphere. I think that that's an important consideration. You know,
• 1:14:02
  I almost went to Washington on January sixth. I wanted to go to like
• 1:14:08
  do some interviews and just sort of like, you know, see what was
• 1:14:11
  going on, but my wife wouldn't let me go. She was like,
• 1:14:14
  I don't I think it's gonna be bad. I don't want you to go,
• 1:14:15
  And so I didn't. And I'm a little like half regretting it because
• 1:14:20
  I think I could have gotten like some you know, pretty good footage and
• 1:14:25
  maybe spoke to some people. But I also think, well, you know
• 1:14:29
  what if they just start rounding up everyone who ever showed up. I mean,
• 1:14:32
  you know, they did, they detained people that did nothing wrong.
• 1:14:36
  They were just there. At worst, maybe they were trespassing. But being
• 1:14:41
  that it's a building that is literally paid for by us, the taxpayer,
• 1:14:45
  I don't, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with walking in
• 1:14:48
  to the Capitol, you know, like through the front door like most people
• 1:14:53
  did so, but that doesn't matter, right, So I just, you
• 1:14:58
  know, it's it's real, really a shame like like this and the QAnon
• 1:15:01
  shaman and some of the other people. I think there was an old woman
• 1:15:05
  that was arrested. Um, it's ridiculous. What the mag of me?
• 1:15:11
  Ball? Yeah, yeah, that all she did was walk around. She
• 1:15:16
  take yep, she got her picture taken and they went and found her.
• 1:15:21
  So there was literally nothing. They don't care, though, because if they
• 1:15:27
  don't make it look like the Insurrection, you know, the worst, the
• 1:15:31
  darkest day in American history. They don't make it look like that by arresting
• 1:15:35
  people and scaring the shit out of them, which I think is the reason
• 1:15:39
  for it, then they'll they'll lose control of the narrative. Like when you
• 1:15:43
  start lying, you have to keep lying, and you have to make the
• 1:15:45
  lies bigger and more elaborate because you need to maintain this fiction. And that's
• 1:15:50
  what they did. And I I had a really dark take on this.
• 1:15:54
  Okay, the narrative doesn't matter. They don't give jack shit about the narrative,
• 1:16:00
  right, They don't care if anybody believes them. They know we don't.
• 1:16:05
  This wasn't about getting people to believe anything they said. This was about
• 1:16:13
  showing it doesn't matter if you're guilty. It doesn't matter if what you did
• 1:16:19
  was right or wrong. It doesn't matter if it was harmful or harmless.
• 1:16:25
  It doesn't matter if the FBI set you up. You still go to jail
• 1:16:32
  because they have the power to do it to you. That's what this was.
• 1:16:39
  This was a flex. This was a massive flex. This was about
• 1:16:45
  showing everybody that speaks out in a dissenting voice against the establishment that's in power
• 1:16:54
  right now, do this anymore and you will be crushed, will eventually get
• 1:17:01
  to us. Yeah, that's what I'm saying it. But there's no narrative.
• 1:17:08
  There's no none of it. Like they lit use narrative to to make
• 1:17:13
  it look like they're still trying to promote the narrative. And there will be
• 1:17:16
  people that are stupid enough to think that they care what the public thinks and
• 1:17:24
  if you just try to reason with them that that minds will change and things
• 1:17:28
  will improve. It's all bullshit, right, And that bullshit isn't just at
• 1:17:34
  the top, but the within the ranks of people in government power. Right.
• 1:17:40
  That bullshit goes all the way down to people you argue with on Twitter.
• 1:17:44
  There are people that you argue with on Facebook, Twitter, any other
• 1:17:47
  social media site. Regular Joe's your next door neighbor, the guy that lives
• 1:17:51
  across town from you, somebody that just waited on you at a gas station,
• 1:17:56
  that are full on, full fledged communist that are celebrating this, not
• 1:18:03
  because they just they think that justice has been done, not because they believe
• 1:18:09
  the narrative, but because they see the pattern that dissent against the establishment is
• 1:18:16
  being crushed on purpose, that fear is being spread among dissenters deliberately, that
• 1:18:28
  the establishment is flexing at dissenters after three years of allowing mostly peaceful raising of
• 1:18:40
  actual cities in the United States by communists, and they know that they're going
• 1:18:47
  to eventually cause people to lose hope. Well, yeah, I mean that
• 1:18:53
  doesn't really contradict what I said, because I'm saying they're creating a narrative,
• 1:18:58
  but they don't believe they're own bullshit. So yeah, they're they're not creating
• 1:19:01
  a narrative. They're sitting on a narrative. They're standing on a narrative.
• 1:19:05
  But they're not using it. They're not using it to persuade people, Right,
• 1:19:13
  They're why making it at all. They're not using it to know it's
• 1:19:17
  the key people from organizing. It's it's to make people think that that they
• 1:19:24
  have a different target than they really have. Right that you ever get into
• 1:19:29
  a fight with a bigger kid at the park and they decide to play with
• 1:19:33
  you because they're so much bigger than you are that you haven't got a chance
• 1:19:38
  in hell. So they start holding one hand up over by their shoulder.
• 1:19:42
  What's this hand? What's this hand? And they hit you in the back
• 1:19:44
  of the head with the other one. Right, Yeah, the narrative,
• 1:19:47
  the narrative is the hand you're supposed to watch. M hmm. Yeah.
• 1:19:54
  But what I'm saying it serves a purpose. They don't believe that. Obviously,
• 1:19:59
  don't believe the ship that they spew either. This is a really dark
• 1:20:02
  take, but I believe that the people within the establishment in the US have
• 1:20:13
  reached a point where they feel they have enough power that it doesn't matter what
• 1:20:17
  the dissenting viewpoint does at this point, whether it's whether they're right or not.
• 1:20:27
  They believe we're fucked and they can do shit like this to show us.
• 1:20:34
  This is a message, This is a flex and all of that narrative
• 1:20:39
  bullshit is for people who are dumb enough to think, well, let's just
• 1:20:44
  talk to them. Yeah, that's the hand you're supposed to watch. The
• 1:20:47
  other hand is the one that's coming around for your neck. Yeah, all
• 1:20:55
  right, well we got to move on. Let us know what you guys,
• 1:20:59
  think about this in the comments. Do you think that you know?
• 1:21:03
  I don't know. I just want to know your thoughts on what's happening,
• 1:21:06
  so let us know in the comments section. I look forward to seeing your
• 1:21:11
  thoughts on that. So now we will move on to the next story.
• 1:21:17
  So, despite what you may have been told in your gender studies class,
• 1:21:21
  a new study from the College Fix. This is from the College Fix.
• 1:21:26
  A new study shows that women are actually favored over men in hiring positions for
• 1:21:31
  stem fields. What my God, you don't say, Yeah, no,
• 1:21:39
  right. The authors of the paper reviewed academic studies from two thousand, so
• 1:21:45
  the year two thousand to the year twenty twenty and found that women are advantage
• 1:21:48
  over men when it comes to hiring. Their paper, exploring gender bias in
• 1:21:53
  six key domains of academic science and adversarial collaboration, also showed that ten year
• 1:22:00
  track women are paired or on parody with ten year track men in three domains
• 1:22:06
  grant funding, journal acceptance, and recommendation letters and quote. The authors said
• 1:22:13
  that quote, we synthesize the vast contradictory scholarly literature on gender bias in academic
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  science from the year two thousand and two, twenty twenty. When it came
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  to the salary gap, they found that it was concerning, but smaller than
• 1:22:28
  the oft quoted statistic that women in STEM fields make eighty two cents for every
• 1:22:32
  dollar that men make. No shit. On average, the gap was nine
• 1:22:38
  cents on the dollar, although the gap shrank to less than four cents when
• 1:22:42
  controlling for experience, types of institutions, and productivity, among other factors.
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  Stephen Cessi, one of the papers authors, said that quote the report shows
• 1:22:51
  that institutions are putting money where it's not needed, such as the training aimed
• 1:22:57
  at rooting out bias on hiring committees, Because it's not. It's not training
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  aimed at routing out bias. It's aimed at instilling bias. That's that's what
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  the story is about. That's what happens when you drill it into people's heads.
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  Or don't you be judging women? Judging women is bad? And kay?
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  And when and when someone says it's what about bias against men? Should
• 1:23:24
  we avoid that too? You go, what, No, bias against men
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  isn't a thing. It never happens. No, this is not a definitive
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  example of me being biased against men. I just told you that's impossible.
• 1:23:38
  Oh look, everything's falling to ship. How weird. This is what academics
• 1:23:44
  are only just starting to figure out after years of scratching their heads and going
• 1:23:48
  huh, what gives? Yeah. Yeah. It turns out when you captively
• 1:23:53
  brainwash people to be biased against men and in favor of women, you've find
• 1:24:00
  yourself excluding all but the very best of the male candidates while pushing through even
• 1:24:05
  the very worst of female candidates. Employers are aware of this. Privately functioning
• 1:24:13
  employers have got wind of what's going on in universities where incompetent women are being
• 1:24:19
  held up on the same pedestal as the most competent men. So it stands
• 1:24:26
  to reason that any given qualified man is probably a sound investment, and any
• 1:24:31
  given qualified woman is probably a liability. And that appraisal of the situation is
• 1:24:39
  not misogyny. It's an accurate interpretation of the miscendry that goes on in educational
• 1:24:46
  institutions. The appropriate way to address this disparity would be for educational institutions to,
• 1:24:57
  you know, not do that, to give it a rest with the
• 1:25:00
  fucking miscendry. But that doesn't compute because miscendry isn't a thing. The pervading
• 1:25:08
  conclusion is that these private companies must be operating on misogynistic preserpositions. After all,
• 1:25:15
  misogyny is everything, It's what society is made of. So the pervading
• 1:25:21
  message is not, we're not missandric, you're misogynistic. So you corporate institutions
• 1:25:31
  need to adopt the same policies as as academic institutions, given that it's worked
• 1:25:36
  so well for us, my source, you say, I've fucking made up.
• 1:25:44
  Obviously, the first employers who capitulate to this kind of centrism are government
• 1:25:51
  faculties. They can afford to make these mistakes because they get their funding from
• 1:25:59
  the taxpayers. So if they need more money to cover the disastrous consequences of
• 1:26:03
  diversity hiring, they simply hike up the taxes yet again and go hooray,
• 1:26:11
  who needs reality. We could just throw money at the problem because we have
• 1:26:15
  millions of slaves that we can just steal money from forever. Like I said,
• 1:26:20
  it's only private companies who see through this ship because they can't afford not
• 1:26:26
  to. But then, of course the government comes in and forces those private
• 1:26:31
  companies to adopt the same miss andric policies. Sorry, sorry, anti misogynistic
• 1:26:36
  policies, and then we'll have fixed the problem. Private companies can't afford their
• 1:26:45
  staff to be forcibly saturated with incompetent women, given that they're not subsidized by
• 1:26:50
  the taxpayer. But hey, what's the worst that can happen the widespread destruction
• 1:26:56
  of every private business and the results monopolized market cornering by self centralized government agencies.
• 1:27:04
  Well, I suppose that's the sacrifice that we in the government are willing
• 1:27:09
  to make. And we've come full circle, as you can see within the
• 1:27:14
  several eccentric circles that we've drawn throughout these various stories in this episode. And
• 1:27:20
  and by the way, story number five will slide quite effortlessly into the pattern
• 1:27:26
  as well. I hope you all are keeping up with the connections. First
• 1:27:30
  comes Missonry, then comes communism, then comes Big Brother, and it cannot
• 1:27:36
  be stopped because almost everyone has already submitted to the missengry. You don't learn
• 1:27:44
  from history, and so you will keep repeating it. And I'm getting very
• 1:27:47
  close to just washing my hands of the lawyer. You deserve it, fucking
• 1:27:53
  punks. The lawyer is this is the feminist advocacy research scam in action.
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  Really like you look at when I was in school in the seventies, there
• 1:28:06
  was a big kick to get more girls interested in math, more girls interested
• 1:28:12
  in science. They didn't use the acronym stem, but they were trying to
• 1:28:19
  get more girls in schools like mine interested in science and technology and get us,
• 1:28:29
  you know, going to too gifted classes and stuff like that, right,
• 1:28:33
  And they didn't really have gifted classes for people who were gifted at art
• 1:28:41
  or music or anything like that. They didn't have gifted gym class for for
• 1:28:47
  people who were at a girl in my class that probably could have been an
• 1:28:53
  Olympic gymnast. She'd wanted to us she wanted to be a farmer, but
• 1:29:00
  to in any case, like they didn't have any of that. Nope,
• 1:29:03
  it was just math, reading, science, people interested in tech, computers
• 1:29:11
  in particular, and girls especially. Right now, come along the eighties,
• 1:29:19
  I'm in junior high at this point, junior high, early late elementary school,
• 1:29:26
  early high school. There's all of a sudden another push to get girls
• 1:29:32
  interested in this stuff. And the weirdest thing was they acted like this had
• 1:29:36
  never been done before. Nobody ever had the idea to get girls involved in
• 1:29:45
  science and technology and math before Nope, not at all. We started hearing
• 1:29:50
  about girls being engineers and stuff started. I started getting actually a little pressure
• 1:29:59
  from teachers to consider that career. That would have been a disaster because I
• 1:30:04
  didn't have the mindfulness that you need to be an engineer back then at all.
• 1:30:10
  I'd have been the one making the collapsing bridge. But you know,
• 1:30:15
  I get most of the way through high school and my senior year, all
• 1:30:20
  of a sudden, there's this new cycle of, hey, we gotta get
• 1:30:25
  girls interested in math and science and technology. It's like it starts at the
• 1:30:29
  beginning of the decade in a sort of Peter's out middle. You know,
• 1:30:34
  as these grifter organizations that are running this cycle get to the end of the
• 1:30:42
  programs they started for it, and it the interest in those programs starts to
• 1:30:46
  die. So it doesn't surprise me that research done in the early twentieth or
• 1:30:54
  twenty first century discovered that there was bias toward women and girls in hiring that
• 1:31:00
  early because they'd already been doing that for thirty years, right, They'd already
• 1:31:08
  been doing that the whole time I was in school, over and over and
• 1:31:13
  over again. The programs were just starting to peter out as I got into
• 1:31:16
  school as as a little kid in the first grade, and then started up
• 1:31:21
  again, uh you know as as later elementary, and then started up again,
• 1:31:27
  um as as I get into junior high school. And this is basically
• 1:31:31
  what feminists do. Like they make up a victim class, which, you
• 1:31:39
  know, some group of women has been victimized in a way that no other
• 1:31:42
  women have been victimized before. Um. And then then they fight for this
• 1:31:46
  victim class, vehemently, of course, and and they win the fight,
• 1:31:53
  and they wait, you know, a while, and then they do say
• 1:31:56
  they started all over again, get new laws passed, get new ending,
• 1:32:00
  and then wait a while, and then pretend it never happened before, and
• 1:32:03
  they do it again and lo and behold, it's a miracle. There's no
• 1:32:09
  more disadvantage. But you can't report that, which is why this is like
• 1:32:13
  from what two thousand, but we're hearing about it in twenty twenty three.
• 1:32:20
  Well, yeah, it's a never ending thing. That's why we're not.
• 1:32:25
  Nobody here is surprised by this. And on top of that like it now
• 1:32:29
  that they're I mean, I think this has been going on for a while
• 1:32:31
  too this did this d I e U Diversity Inclusion equity, Um, you
• 1:32:38
  know initiatives that's been going on for a long time too, but um,
• 1:32:44
  you know it's the DIE initiative. Yeah, the Die initiative. I know
• 1:32:47
  that it's supposed to be d e I, but come on, die,
• 1:32:50
  but it's better. Die is way more appropriate. Yeah, so you know,
• 1:32:56
  Um, I mean again, doesn't surprise me? Will Will it change
• 1:33:00
  anything? Probably not? I mean knowing this doesn't really matter. I would
• 1:33:03
  only hope that, you know, somebody who runs a company somewhere will do
• 1:33:10
  will hire based on merit instead of um, you know, women's or whatever
• 1:33:15
  other oppressed group needs to be prioritized made Huh, who must we call it
• 1:33:23
  made? Missundric assistance in dying? If we're going to use euphanism, So
• 1:33:29
  let's go the whole hull. Yeah, I might as well go all in.
• 1:33:31
  Um speaking of of you know, like hiring people that might not be
• 1:33:38
  qualified for the job. The last story. We're gonna get to it in
• 1:33:41
  a second. I want to give people a chance to, um respond to
• 1:33:45
  this, but I will say that it's it's it's relevant to the thing we're
• 1:33:48
  just talking about. So does anyone else have anything to say about this um
• 1:33:53
  women in stem story? Yeah again, not surprised. All right, So
• 1:33:59
  we're gonna move on to last story. We're gonna be talking about some firefighters
• 1:34:02
  in Canada and what sets them apart from everyone else. So Mike K good.
• 1:34:10
  Oh boy. So Canada hosted its first ever Women in Firefighting Training shame
• 1:34:19
  during the first two weeks of May, and uh, well things got a
• 1:34:26
  little hot. Yeah. Oh, So the w t R e X was
• 1:34:30
  held in Bamp, Alberta. I thought was Baniff for a second, but
• 1:34:35
  the I realized there was no eye. So it's just Bamp, which sounds
• 1:34:40
  like a comic book sound effect, Nightcrawlers Teleport sounds like that. But it
• 1:34:44
  is a place for a reason. Yeah, it is a place in the
• 1:34:47
  mountains. There was supposed to be really nice springs of My wife used to
• 1:34:51
  go there all the time. Allison and Jonathan took me there, like yeah,
• 1:34:58
  and then in twenty fifty it's it's rich as fuck. They very uh
• 1:35:04
  do well. People go there. They have these beautiful sort of springs that
• 1:35:10
  they use as as pools and such. And when you when you walk down
• 1:35:15
  the street, you can just tell it it's really why they have these bill
• 1:35:17
  up places. It's posh. It's posh as fuck. Bet it is even
• 1:35:23
  by Canadian standards. Yeah. So, as held in bamp Albert of this
• 1:35:30
  year inside the National Park, where, among other goals, a female led
• 1:35:34
  team of firefighters were to conduct a controlled burn. Purpose of the burn was
• 1:35:41
  to cut down on the risk of wildfires, but due to a sudden and
• 1:35:45
  unexpected stiff in both wind speed and direction, the fire soon grew out of
• 1:35:53
  control. The now out of control fire soon took over three hectakers and require
• 1:36:00
  the help of five helicopters in order to campaign. This mishap occurs as Alberta
• 1:36:06
  is still under a state of emergency as almost one million acres of forest has
• 1:36:13
  burned in Western Canada as a result of various wildfires. Is it wrong to
• 1:36:18
  find is it wrong to find this so hilarious? But I think that qualified
• 1:36:25
  not at all. That's why I say it last. Wildfires aren't traditionally supposed
• 1:36:30
  to be funny, but you know, irondy exists regardless of the tragedy that
• 1:36:36
  comes along with it, and irony is technically funny as close as you can
• 1:36:41
  get to objectively funny. But the humor is only going to last any appreciable
• 1:36:45
  amount of time if a lesson is actually learned from it, If you if
• 1:36:51
  you realize what you did wrong again, then we can continue to smile at
• 1:36:58
  the situation because as tragic as it was, it led to an outcome where
• 1:37:03
  we never make that mistake again. But I have to wonder if the morons
• 1:37:09
  who did this are ever going to learn that lesson to a lesson being when
• 1:37:15
  you exclude men from an important task, you severely handicap your ability to deal
• 1:37:20
  with that task. So don't exclude men because stupid fucking misstandric dipshits. Do
• 1:37:28
  you think, well, do you think they're gonna look, here's the funny
• 1:37:31
  thing about that, as far as they can tell, men weren't excluded.
• 1:37:35
  Okay. So this is the blurb that followed the call for applicants for this
• 1:37:42
  wtr EX thing. Wtr X is an opportunity to engage participants of all different
• 1:37:50
  genders, ethnic and racial backgrounds to explore the growing role of women in fire
• 1:37:57
  managements, while also serving as an opportunity to enhance their understanding of incident commands,
• 1:38:02
  system, fire ecology, communications, outreach leadership Prescribed fire planning and more
• 1:38:08
  so of all different genders to explore the growing role of women. Yeah,
• 1:38:15
  when they say when they say all different genders, they mean all genders accept
• 1:38:18
  men. Yeah, they wouldn't say it for any other reason. They're literally
• 1:38:23
  excluding men. But but a trans woman, maybe they should have sent a
• 1:38:27
  team of trans women firefighters in there, because that probably would have worked out
• 1:38:30
  better. A trans woman would have would be okay, and any like regular
• 1:38:36
  woman that identifies as non binary or whatever to spirit whatever they're doing in Canada,
• 1:38:42
  that would be all the fine. But whenever they say all genders,
• 1:38:45
  they mean not men. That's all it means. And it's not as though
• 1:38:49
  the conducting an operation where where a firefighter has to pull an unconscious person from
• 1:38:58
  the building. It for that you would need someone with as much upper body
• 1:39:01
  strength as possible. This this is just pointing fire hoses out of fire and
• 1:39:06
  trying to put out of the fire. You wouldn't think you would need up
• 1:39:10
  a body strength of that just enough to operate a fire hose. I mean,
• 1:39:15
  you just need a team of women can back that up. It's like
• 1:39:19
  it's like it's like a rope in a tug of war. As long as
• 1:39:23
  you've got enough people you can get. But evidently even they couldn't even sort
• 1:39:29
  that out with with this man excluding the situation. And like I said,
• 1:39:36
  do you think that they're gonna learn that lesson that when you exclude men from
• 1:39:44
  a thing, even the organizational part of it is going to fall down then.
• 1:39:49
  And this is Canada we're talking about, remember, possibly the world's most
• 1:39:54
  militantly feminist country. Are they going to say to themselves, what's today?
• 1:39:59
  Is it? That was our bad? We won't do it again? I
• 1:40:01
  don't think they are. They're gonna stick with Oh well, it is a
• 1:40:06
  freak occurrence, what with the shift in the wind, and one they could
• 1:40:10
  have happened to anyone. It's just a coincidence that it never happens to a
• 1:40:15
  firefighting force that doesn't exclude men. And they'll do it again. I honestly
• 1:40:19
  think the same thing will happen again and again and again. Canadian feminists would
• 1:40:25
  literally rather burn down the entire country than admit they were wrong. Metaphorically speaking,
• 1:40:30
  They've been well on their way to doing that for ages. What's to
• 1:40:33
  stop them doing it? Literally? Who's to stop them doing it? Literally?
• 1:40:38
  Trudeau? Yeah, good luck with that. Look, here's here's the
• 1:40:43
  thing about diversity hires. That's not what gets companies to hire people who are
• 1:40:48
  female, or people of color, or people with trained status or anything else.
• 1:40:54
  Right, companies will hire who's going to do best for the company.
• 1:41:00
  And when you're when you're dealing with most government agencies, that's not true.
• 1:41:03
  But when you're dealing with fire departments, they need to get the best.
• 1:41:10
  They have standards. They have to have standards or they can't do what they
• 1:41:15
  exist to do. So up until the point where we started mandating diversity hiring
• 1:41:26
  in fire departments, fire departments are generally pretty effective in what they do.
• 1:41:33
  There were female firefighters. Like when the apartment complex that I live in,
• 1:41:42
  one of the buildings actually building perpendicular to mind caught fire, they had a
• 1:41:47
  couple of fire trucks. They had a team of firefighters came here, put
• 1:41:50
  the fire out, help people. There was a woman among them. She
• 1:41:57
  was about six foot six foot two somewhere in there. She was a nice,
• 1:42:00
  tall, strong woman. And the only way that you could tell she
• 1:42:05
  was female was when she finally everything was done and over with and she took
• 1:42:14
  some of her head gear off and you could see she had long blonde hair,
• 1:42:19
  but she was not I wouldn't have been able to do that job.
• 1:42:26
  She was not built like me, all right, she wasn't quite built like
• 1:42:30
  a man, but she was not built like me. You could tell she
• 1:42:33
  was not a diversity higher. And I've worked in different areas where you have
• 1:42:42
  women there already, and then you get a diversity higher woman and she's all
• 1:42:47
  about, I'm here because I'm a woman. I'm a woman, and I
• 1:42:50
  can do everything the men can do, and blah blah blah blah, and
• 1:42:54
  gets jack and shit done nothing because she's a diversity and she doesn't have to
• 1:43:00
  and you're not allowed to criticize her because she's a diversity higher, right,
• 1:43:04
  And she'll shit on every other woman that has done the job before her,
• 1:43:11
  just like diversity gamers will shit on every other girl who happens to be a
• 1:43:18
  gamer or a gamer who happens to be a girl gamer who also happens to
• 1:43:24
  be black gamer, who happens to have a disability that just you know,
• 1:43:30
  that's their lifestyle. They do this, and they happen to be to fit
• 1:43:34
  these diversity standards, but it's not their identity, and it destroys professions.
• 1:43:45
  It destroys job locations, it destroys work cruised work teams, it destroys work
• 1:43:56
  environments for people. And I think that may be the case here too,
• 1:44:01
  Like there probably have been plenty of great fruit female firefighters, not anywhere near
• 1:44:10
  as many as there are great male firefighters, but plenty until you get this
• 1:44:18
  diversity hire shit, and then you get women who get hired not because they
• 1:44:25
  can do the job, but because we need more women in firefighting, and
• 1:44:30
  suddenly you have miss taps like this, you know, and I like the
• 1:44:33
  same thing happens in STEM. I have a cousin who got a job with
• 1:44:40
  ODOT as an engineer, not because she was a woman, but because when
• 1:44:46
  she went in to apply for her job, they had a computer breakdown,
• 1:44:53
  complete utter problem in terms of their signmaking computers, and none of them could
• 1:45:00
  figure out. They're like, well, we can't even talk about hiring for
• 1:45:03
  this job because we just now we can't make the signs we need to make.
• 1:45:06
  So it's going to be delayed for a couple of weeks while we get
• 1:45:11
  someone in here to figure this shit out. So she says, well,
• 1:45:15
  can I see the instruction manual? And they let her see the instruction manual.
• 1:45:19
  She goes, can I take this home and bring it back tomorrow?
• 1:45:24
  They let her. Next day, she went in and started printing their signs
• 1:45:27
  and she had a job. Like, that's how you get a job.
• 1:45:30
  That's you don't. You don't get a job by going in and sticking your
• 1:45:34
  tits out and going hire me, diversity woo, because you fail if you're
• 1:45:40
  going to do that, right, you go in and you show them that
• 1:45:43
  you can do the job. But but yeah, that's that's where we are
• 1:45:47
  now. You get a job now by sticking your tits out and yelling diversity
• 1:45:54
  woo and burning down forests. Great. So, one of the very interesting
• 1:46:01
  things that I spotted in here in the article that we based this off from,
• 1:46:06
  the counter signal, Parks Canada maintains that all of the ladies in this
• 1:46:14
  training program were firefighting certified. However, if you look at the WTRX call
• 1:46:21
  for applicants, which is still up by the way, all it says is
• 1:46:29
  you need to only have completed an introductory level course to firefighting. Yeah,
• 1:46:36
  and that doesn't smack to me of someone who's ready to take on a controlled
• 1:46:44
  burn. Well, it doesn't sound like certified if an introductory course just not
• 1:46:49
  certification. Yeah, well you're all a bunch of misogynists. If a woman
• 1:46:54
  identifies us certified, then she is certified. At least I'm not a flaming
• 1:46:59
  misogynt. Yes, I do live with a misogyn therapist. All it's got
• 1:47:09
  to work out on your slogy means there we go, my knees needed.
• 1:47:15
  So yeah, shackunaw diversity hires backfire literally no pun intended. Um, all
• 1:47:27
  right, so let's see do we get any more super chat super chowse Uh?
• 1:47:31
  Does anyone else have a question? What? Yeah? If they're gonna
• 1:47:36
  do a controlled burn, why the fuck do you do it in a national
• 1:47:42
  forest? Like? But it's it's like having a controlled meeting of the pedophiles
• 1:47:53
  at a preschool, Like, what the fuck? A control just halfway in
• 1:48:00
  the middle, Hannah, We can do a controlled burn of the pedophiles in
• 1:48:02
  a national force. Yeah, we could just kill two, one or two
• 1:48:08
  pedophiles at one fire. There you go. Um, but imagine like the
• 1:48:13
  backfire there would be we attract more pedophiles than we can actually burn. Yeah.
• 1:48:16
  See the only problem is when people catch on fire, we flail around
• 1:48:21
  and like fling bits. I've only done that once. Mhmm, but it
• 1:48:31
  does happen. So then you end up with an out of control fire again,
• 1:48:38
  so you have to do the controlled burn somewhere else. Yeah. Well,
• 1:48:46
  well like maybe a ginormous fucking parking lot that's been emptied out or something.
• 1:48:53
  Yeah, well someplace where it wouldn't spread, is what you're saying.
• 1:48:57
  Yes, yeah, that would make sense. That would that would be sensible.
• 1:49:00
  Yeah, that would send a boy to do a man's job or a
• 1:49:04
  woman or a fuck wit. Yeah, you know, I was going to
• 1:49:11
  mention that. Um, it's funny because Lindsay when she was a little younger,
• 1:49:17
  like in her twenties, she was working, she worked really hard because
• 1:49:24
  she wanted to be a firefighter or one of these specifically these women, like
• 1:49:30
  it's like a forest you know, um, firefighting person, I don't know
• 1:49:35
  what you would call it. And she had to, like she just went
• 1:49:41
  above and beyond. I think that she just didn't get the job, even
• 1:49:46
  though she was pretty sure, like she did all of the physical stuff and
• 1:49:49
  all of that, and the standards were high obviously they had to be,
• 1:49:55
  and she was disappointed in that. But then again, at that time,
• 1:50:00
  you know, at least you know, the the assumption is like male or
• 1:50:04
  female. They were just going to pick the best people, and Lindsay wasn't
• 1:50:10
  one of the best people, even though she did really well in her mind.
• 1:50:15
  Obviously I wasn't there. But it's when I when this story came out.
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  I told her about it, and she was like, oh, I
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  want to do that story, but Mike Jay took it first. It doesn't
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  matter. But um, yeah, I mean it's just something that something next
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  time. I would love her have it. Yeah, no, no,
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  it's okay. It was I should have bring her own say oh, she's
• 1:50:33
  in the other room watching the dog. Um bring the dog too. Yeah.
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  I would probably have things to say, but I mean, like,
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  there isn't She said that she doesn't really feel like you could add much.
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  I just wanted to mention that, you know this, um, she was
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  trying to get into this firefighting like job. It was, but for her
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  it wasn't. It wasn't something so that she can just say, oh,
• 1:51:01
  you know, I'm a woman and you know hear me roar, like this
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  is like a feminist firefighting thing, right. She wouldn't want to be a
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  part of that because she wanted to pass on her own merits. She wanted
• 1:51:14
  to qualify, and even though she met all of the criteria, I think
• 1:51:20
  she still didn't get the job because probably there were other people who you know,
• 1:51:26
  did even better and they were only looking for so many positions. And
• 1:51:30
  that's just the nature of the beast. It's not sexism. I even asked
• 1:51:32
  her, were you the only woman there? She was like, no,
• 1:51:35
  there were other women there too, and they were, you know, again
• 1:51:40
  very fit. She was really fit and at the time, and they were
• 1:51:45
  doing their best. I don't know who got the job, but the point
• 1:51:47
  is it was merit at the time, even though you know, I guess
• 1:51:53
  like Lindsay could have if she wanted to. She probably could have, like
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  you know, kicked up a bunch of shit to like get the job based
• 1:52:00
  on diversity hires or whatever, but then she would be bad at it,
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  and she didn't want to be bad at it. She wanted to do the
• 1:52:06
  job, so I think that, you know, um, obviously, it's
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  a disservice to men because they get passed over in the name of inclusion,
• 1:52:18
  diversity, and equity, but it also hurts women too because if they're working
• 1:52:25
  really hard to get it, and they get it, they're always going to
• 1:52:28
  be wondering if they got it because they earned it, or if they got
• 1:52:30
  it because you know, like they were meeting a quota, they were ticking
• 1:52:33
  a box. And of course, if you're in a job as serious as
• 1:52:39
  fighting fires, the biggest victims potentially of this are the victims of fires,
• 1:52:45
  like like the forests. Yeah, yeah, they don't don't They don't give
• 1:52:49
  a shit when you go between your legs. Yeah so yeah, deer and
• 1:52:54
  bears and rabbits and shit. They don't care about gender diversity. No,
• 1:52:58
  no, like you say gender diversity to a bear, it's still going to
• 1:53:00
  eat you. Yeah, exactly, like take the white on your first right.
• 1:53:08
  But but you know the other thing that happens with this UM fire department.
• 1:53:14
  Fire Department of New York UH started lowering their UM standards in like twenty
• 1:53:20
  twelve, twenty thirteen to UH to get more women on the department. And
• 1:53:29
  like, there there are some things that are kind of useful if you have
• 1:53:33
  UM people panicking in a house, sometimes you know they might be more manageable
• 1:53:43
  by one sex or the other. Like I if I was in a panic
• 1:53:46
  and a fire, I think I would probably just grab onto the first person
• 1:53:49
  to get me out of there. But little kids might be afraid of a
• 1:53:54
  man they don't know. But part of the reason that women are so dangerous
• 1:53:59
  to little kids when they're unscrupulous is also beneficial when they're they're good women that
• 1:54:06
  want to help kids. So a woman might be able to get a kid
• 1:54:12
  to come out of hiding so they can get the kid out of the fire.
• 1:54:14
  Right, there's things like that that are important. They do want them
• 1:54:16
  for some things. Um, kids might talk to female EMTs more too,
• 1:54:24
  And there's there's just some things that that uh because of the way kids are
• 1:54:30
  raised to assume women are safe. Um, you have to have women in
• 1:54:34
  certain jobs. But if you diversity higher women and you lower standards to let
• 1:54:41
  them in, like FDNN, why did you get a corresponding rise in injuries
• 1:54:46
  in the next few years afterward among your team? And it's it's not just
• 1:54:54
  the women. They had more injuries when they they increased um or they decreased
• 1:55:00
  their standards to increase diversity. They started seeing more injuries during training, and
• 1:55:09
  it's things like people lifting wrong or lifting too much, turning their ankles,
• 1:55:16
  overdoing it, having heat sickness and stuff like that. That was a problem.
• 1:55:21
  And there's two things that happen there. One of them is, of
• 1:55:25
  course, the women try to push themselves to keep up with the men,
• 1:55:28
  and the men try to push themselves to outdo the women. And if the
• 1:55:31
  women are in trouble, the men try to help the women, and so
• 1:55:36
  both sexes end up getting injured doing things they would not have done prior.
• 1:55:44
  So it's an interesting effect that needs to be overcome, and the standards need
• 1:55:49
  to be just as high for the women as they are for the men in
• 1:55:54
  order to avoid creating circumstances where that's likely to happen. All right, thank
• 1:56:04
  you for that. I think we're good. I think we're gonna wrap it
• 1:56:10
  up here. So a little bit, a little bit of a longer sausage,
• 1:56:14
  but um well, uh yeah, it's still still fine. So all
• 1:56:19
  right, I hit the wrong button. There we go. So we're gonna
• 1:56:23
  go to the patron only show and maybe talk a little bit about what we
• 1:56:26
  talked about on the show, if there's anything that was left unsaid, or
• 1:56:30
  if someone one of our patrons wants to mention something or bring up a perspective.
• 1:56:35
  And we're also gonna look at this article that where actress Evangeline Lily says
• 1:56:41
  society is villainizing masculinity and applauding femininity in men. So I think that that's
• 1:56:47
  very true and I but that's just based on our headline. I haven't read
• 1:56:50
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