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Jayme Closs's miracle rescue after 88 days of captivity · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Happy this night. Oh, I'm just happy with lots of
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Speaker 1: motions and tears tonight, but so happy. And I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to hug that little girl. Any idea when tomorrow? Tomorrow? Sometimes? Yes,
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Speaker 1: she's getting resh, she's exhausted. Have you talked to her?
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Speaker 1: I have not talked to her. She's sleeping. Do you
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Speaker 1: have details to put you out of the ease right now?
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Speaker 1: And I know you're not. She's doing good. That's I
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Speaker 1: know she's doing good and she's in your Dan. Did
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Speaker 1: you read the account the starts of view and they
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Speaker 1: talked to some of the people who found drinks. I did, yes,
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Speaker 1: I read that. Well, Well, get her better. We'll get
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Speaker 1: her through this. As long as she's alive and good,
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Speaker 1: we'll get through anything. True words were never said, as
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Speaker 1: long as she as alive. Breaking news, Bob Mischelle, Now,
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Speaker 1: thirteen year old little girl Jamie Closs is alive. And
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Speaker 1: I can only say three words, Praise the Lord, because
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Speaker 1: statistically this is practically impossible. As you will recall, this
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Speaker 1: little girl, Jamie, absolutely beautiful, was kidnapped out of her
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Speaker 1: family home. Both of her parents were murdered. The killer
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Speaker 1: was only in the house about four minutes, clearly coming
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Speaker 1: in for Jamie and leaving no witnesses behind. What we
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Speaker 1: are learning is that Jamie Class, a thirteen year old
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Speaker 1: little girl with long strawberry blonde hair, managed to escape
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Speaker 1: a remote cabin a full three months after her mother
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Speaker 1: and her father were murdered in their home about seventy
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Speaker 1: miles away. When she was found skinny, filthy, wearing somebody
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Speaker 1: else's shoes too big for her. She walks up into
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Speaker 1: an unknown person and says, I've been kidnapped. A man
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Speaker 1: murdered both my parents. I mean, see, Grace, this is
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Speaker 1: crime stories. Thank you for being with me, with me.
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Speaker 1: Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation who has devoted
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Speaker 1: his life to finding missing children. Alicia Koskcavitch, kidnaped, survivor
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Speaker 1: taken from her home as a little girl, a missing
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Speaker 1: person's advocate, founder of the Alicia Project, doctor William July,
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Speaker 1: psychologist VINCEA. The Hill, PI and author Holly Hughes felony prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now. Syndicated talk show host David Matt
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Speaker 1: David can't you believe it. My phone blew up at
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Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock last night. I look, I could not
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Speaker 1: believe Jamie Class is alive. One of the most shocking, wonderful,
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Speaker 1: incredible stories. As you mentioned last night, the phone calls
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Speaker 1: started going out, everything went crazy about four forty five
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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. That's when we had now discovered that Jamie
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Speaker 1: Kloss actually was able to escape her captor and found
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Speaker 1: somebody walking the dog and said I need help. That's
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Speaker 1: where the good news all began. I want you to
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Speaker 1: take a listen to Kristen kasincas the woman who called
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Speaker 1: nine one one when a neighbor bams on her door
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Speaker 1: saying these words, call nine one one, this is Jamie Class.
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Speaker 1: Appractically four o'clock, I was just home from work, just
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Speaker 1: kind of getting unpacked, and our neighbor came up to
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Speaker 1: our door with a big her big dog, and she
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Speaker 1: kind of flung the door open and said, call nine
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Speaker 1: on one, this is Jamie Closs. And right next to
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Speaker 1: her was a very, um, I don't know, slender looking
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Speaker 1: girl who looked exactly like Jamie Clost in the photographs
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Speaker 1: that we've all seen. She just came in, said she
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Speaker 1: was Jamie. We brought her in the house. She came
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Speaker 1: and sat down in our living room with us, and
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Speaker 1: we called anelon one immediately and waited for the police
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Speaker 1: to arrive too. Took maybe a half hour for the
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Speaker 1: police to get here. I don't know, I don't even
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Speaker 1: really know how to describe it other than just kind
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Speaker 1: of like surprise and panic at the same time. So
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Speaker 1: we just called any one one. We waited. We kind
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Speaker 1: of just talked with her, nothing too specific about what
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Speaker 1: was happening. UM. I asked for where Gordon Wiscott, if
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Speaker 1: she knew where Gordon Wisconsin why she did not, UM,
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Speaker 1: but she was pretty clear about that she's been taken. UM.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, she didn't give us a lot of details.
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Speaker 1: They came, they took her, and then basically it that's
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Speaker 1: from our friends at KA r E eleven. It's Kristen
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Speaker 1: kassinkas the woman who called nine one one when a
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Speaker 1: neighbor brings Class to the door. As we know right now,
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Speaker 1: an unidentified suspect has been arrested. Who is it? Straight
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Speaker 1: out to Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation, longtime
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Speaker 1: friend and colleague who has devoted his life to finding
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Speaker 1: and saving missing people, particularly children, after his daughter Polly
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Speaker 1: was taken. Mark Class, I've got to hear your analysis
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Speaker 1: of what we know so far, well, it's it's a miracle.
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Speaker 1: It's a miracle. Quite frankly, the vast, vast maturity of
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Speaker 1: children that are kidnapped under circumstances even close to Jamie's
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Speaker 1: never show up alive again. We never hear about them.
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Speaker 1: The ones that you do hear about you can count
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Speaker 1: on almost one hand, including including one of your guests today.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a testament to the hard work
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Speaker 1: that everybody has done. And it's certainly just hope to
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Speaker 1: the parents of any child that continues to be missing
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Speaker 1: that these kinds of events do happen, that they do
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Speaker 1: come home. But that's certainly not to minimize the hard
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Speaker 1: road ahead for this child is she has to recover
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Speaker 1: from the trauma of three months of being kidnapped and
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Speaker 1: her parents having been murdered. Eighty seven days, Jamie cost
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Speaker 1: a thirteen year old little girl, has been hit held.
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Speaker 1: She was kidnapped from her own home back in October.
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Speaker 1: Both her mother and her father, we believe gundown dead
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Speaker 1: and murdered at least arrive at the home just four
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Speaker 1: minutes after the nine one one call. Nobody really says
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Speaker 1: anything in the nine one one call, but you can
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Speaker 1: hear chaos going on in the background. You know something's happening.
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Speaker 1: So police race over there. They get there four minutes later.
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Speaker 1: Mom and dad are both dead. Jamie gone. The door
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Speaker 1: is not broken into. Jamie has been located in the
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Speaker 1: town of Gordon, seventy miles away from her home in Barren, Wisconsin. Again,
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Speaker 1: an unidentified suspect is in jail in connection to her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: She was described as filthy, skinny, her hair matted, wearing
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Speaker 1: somebody else's shoes way too big for her. She declined food,
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Speaker 1: but Jamie did say according to sources who she believed
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Speaker 1: had her, and spoke of quote being locked up. What
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Speaker 1: does it mean? We don't know yet. Both her parents,
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Speaker 1: Denise and James, dying quote instantly of their wounds, joining
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Speaker 1: me right now. In addition to Dave mack, our friend
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Speaker 1: Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation, a very special guest,
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Speaker 1: Alicia kosa Kevitch, a kidnap survivor missing person's advocate. He
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Speaker 1: can find her online. Founder of the Alicia Project. Alicia
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Speaker 1: spoke for a long time online with a person she
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Speaker 1: thought was a little girl about her age. That little
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Speaker 1: girl turned out to be someone very, very sinister. And
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Speaker 1: around Christmas time, when it was a beautiful outside, she
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Speaker 1: got a message from the friend. She gets up from
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Speaker 1: a wonderful family dinner where everybody's laughing and having a
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Speaker 1: good time, steps outside and her life changed forever. Alicia
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Speaker 1: kidnapped and held hostage, and it is a miracle she survived. Alicia.
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Speaker 1: I'm so proud to have you with me along with Mark. Alicia,
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Speaker 1: what is this little girl going through? First off, I
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Speaker 1: just have to say that this is the best news ever.
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Speaker 1: I found out and I literally jumped around and did
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Speaker 1: a happy dance. This is you did because you were
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Speaker 1: texting me at midnight that you were dancing, and I
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Speaker 1: just I was crying. It made me start crying. I
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Speaker 1: was so happy. I couldn't believe it. And that very
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Speaker 1: day I had been pitching Jamie Class's story to major
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Speaker 1: TV outlus to try to renew interest in finding Jamie Class,
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Speaker 1: and then this happened. Alicia, she has a long road
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Speaker 1: to ho in ahead of her, explain, she truly does.
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Speaker 1: She has, She's been rescued and now she can start
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Speaker 1: the recovery process and the process of moving forward, but
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Speaker 1: that's certainly going to take time. And what we need
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Speaker 1: to give her right now is time and space, which
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Speaker 1: I know is difficult and nearly impossible, because everybody wants
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Speaker 1: to know what happened. But we have to respect her privacy.
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Speaker 1: We have to give her dignity and respect. And what
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Speaker 1: she needs now more than anything is support from her
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Speaker 1: family as well as from the public. So please do
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Speaker 1: not speculate, do not entertain the online trolls. It said
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Speaker 1: she needs dignity and respect. I've already read some terrible comments.
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Speaker 1: There is no place for that. And really, one of
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Speaker 1: the saddest things here is although that she has an
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Speaker 1: amazing family supporting her who has never given up hope. Jamie,
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Speaker 1: in many ways, can never really come home from the
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Speaker 1: home that she was taken from. She lost her parents.
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Speaker 1: Her new home is going to be something different, and
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Speaker 1: she's going to have to go through such a grieving process.
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Speaker 1: She has such a long road ahead, but thankfully she
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Speaker 1: has people surrounding her. She has people celebrating all over
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Speaker 1: the nation, and she has a beacon of home for
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Speaker 1: so many parents and families who have missing children. She
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Speaker 1: has such a beacon of hope, and I'm so proud
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Speaker 1: of her for getting away. And all I could say is,
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Speaker 1: welcome home, Jamie. Jamie's families in shock. This is the
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Speaker 1: outcome they've been praying for for eighty seven days, and
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Speaker 1: it's an outcome we all know is rare in a
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Speaker 1: case like this. We now know Jamie was in a
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Speaker 1: development about seven miles east of the small town of Gordon, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of cabins there seasonal and permanent residence.
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Speaker 1: Family members tell us they were told Jamie got out
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Speaker 1: and asked for help. What was your reaction when you
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Speaker 1: heard the news. I cried, I sat down on the bench.
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Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I'm shocked. We've had so much
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Speaker 1: bad news this year. Um. Well, no, it's twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: so it's good. It's good news in twenty nineteen. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's what we're prayed for every single day for the
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Speaker 1: last eighty seven days or whatever it is, eighty seven,
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Speaker 1: eighty eight, I can't even remember. Did it reach it?
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Speaker 1: Did it reach a point were you were bracing yourself
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Speaker 1: for bad news or anything like? No, no, no, I honestly,
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Speaker 1: I honestly, Um I honestly had faith. I I figured
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Speaker 1: if I hadn't found her by now, that the person
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Speaker 1: that did this didn't want her dead. So I had
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Speaker 1: hope every day. Every day there was hope. Just tell
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Speaker 1: me what you're going through, what you're going through right now,
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Speaker 1: and how you heard the news and how you reacted.
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Speaker 1: We were It was just unbelievable because you know, you
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Speaker 1: hear about you know, you're not sure if she's going
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Speaker 1: to be found or found, and then when you actually
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Speaker 1: hear it, it's just it's just unbelievable and we're all
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Speaker 1: all just so grateful and happy. Are you in shock? Yes?
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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of it too, you know
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Speaker 1: it is. I was like, no, it's just it's just great.
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Speaker 1: We did we We thought it was going to be
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Speaker 1: a different ending, and we're so happy that, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's hopefully she's okay. We don't really know what shape
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Speaker 1: she's in her You know what, we don't really know
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Speaker 1: a lot. That's ka r E eleven's lou Regus speaking
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Speaker 1: with Jamie's aunt Kelly and jeff uncle Jeff. They don't
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Speaker 1: know a lot right now. Nobody really does. Maybe they've
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Speaker 1: been briefed in the last minutes. But what we do
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Speaker 1: know is this that a miracle has taken place. Thirteen
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Speaker 1: year old Jamie Class has been found a live eighty
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Speaker 1: eight days after she was taken from her family home,
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Speaker 1: both parents shot dead. She was found skinny, filthy, wearing
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Speaker 1: shoes way too big for her. She flagged down a
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Speaker 1: lady dog walker and said, I've been kidnapped. A man
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Speaker 1: killed both my parents. You earlier heard the woman that
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Speaker 1: called nine one one recounting what she observed. Jamie kidnapped
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Speaker 1: from her home in October when her parents were murdered.
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Speaker 1: She was found in the town of Gordon, about seventy
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Speaker 1: miles from her home in Baron. There is a susp
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Speaker 1: behind bars. We don't know anymore right now, skinny, filthy,
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Speaker 1: wearing shoes too big for her, declining food and blank
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Speaker 1: a blank and flat affect. What more do we know?
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Speaker 1: Back to Dave Max, syndicated talk show host, it was
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Speaker 1: a quote seasonal community about seven miles from Gordon, and
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Speaker 1: that tells me somebody was hiding out with her and
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Speaker 1: like a cabin or a remote trailer that was used
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Speaker 1: for hunting and fishing or boating. What do you think,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mack that you've actually described exactly where it is,
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Speaker 1: about seven miles outside of this town of the town
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Speaker 1: only has about a thousand residents. Anyway, this is out
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Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. But police and FBI have
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Speaker 1: already taped off this one cabin about seven miles from
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Speaker 1: town in the middle of nowhere, And the actual person
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Speaker 1: that lived in that cabin was a twenty one year
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Speaker 1: old man that they took into custody. He's the suspect
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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about. He's only twenty one, but was living
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Speaker 1: in this cabin out in the middle of hunting territory
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Speaker 1: where most of the people are only out there when
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Speaker 1: they're going to be hunting or fishing or something like
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Speaker 1: that during the winter. This says to me to Mark Class,
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Speaker 1: founder of Class Kids Foundation, this was planned, very well
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Speaker 1: planned to go in execute her parents, get Jamie and
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Speaker 1: take her to a remote hunting cabin. You know, Nancy
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Speaker 1: and all, of course, it was well planned and like
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Speaker 1: morely speculating here, But in the vast majority of cases
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Speaker 1: where the kids come home alive. Jac Dugard, Elizabeth Smart,
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Speaker 1: Chest of Groaning misc Sanchez, Sean Hornbeck been owned to
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Speaker 1: be Alicia Hannah Anderson, these kids were taken by sexual predators,
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Speaker 1: and it's such a long, long road for them to
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Speaker 1: get back to mental health and to put their lives together.
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Speaker 1: We could only hope and pray that the same thing
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Speaker 1: happens for Jamie, that she's able to put her life
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Speaker 1: together and and the leader productive and happy existence. The
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Speaker 1: woman who called NY one one and Kristen Kasenskas, a teacher,
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Speaker 1: said that they recognized Jamie immediately, but that Jamie seemed
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Speaker 1: like she was in shock and very timid. She did
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit, she sat down in their living room.
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Speaker 1: She did not give much details. I asked her she
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Speaker 1: knew where Gordon, Wisconsin was, and she did not even
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Speaker 1: know where Gordon was or where she was at that moment.
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Speaker 1: She did state who she believed had her, and she
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Speaker 1: did give a little information about that person's car, which
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Speaker 1: obviously had to be the car he used when he
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Speaker 1: came to kidnap her, But other than that, she did
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Speaker 1: not give a lot of detail. Now, Cassinkas asked her
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Speaker 1: if the person was somebody that she knew in the community,
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Speaker 1: and reportedly she said that she Kristen ignize the name,
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Speaker 1: but not someone she knew very well. What do we
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Speaker 1: know about. This person joining me right now is Holly Hughes,
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Speaker 1: veteran prosecutor now defense attorney of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Give
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Speaker 1: me your profile of who you think this twenty one
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Speaker 1: year old guy is. He is someone it reminds me
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Speaker 1: very much the Elizabeth Smart case, where the guy was
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Speaker 1: a handyman. He was in and out of the house.
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Speaker 1: He knew exactly where to go to execute the parents
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Speaker 1: and get away with Jamie very quickly. He's a loner,
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Speaker 1: he's an outsider, and he just wants someone to be
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Speaker 1: there with him, even if they don't want to be
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Speaker 1: so I'm thinking this man probably doesn't have a steady job.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to report somewhere every day, and there's
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Speaker 1: not a lot of oversight. This is someone who can
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Speaker 1: hide out in the woods for months at a time.
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Speaker 1: Eighty seven days he had this poor little girl and
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Speaker 1: no one noticed. That means he doesn't that visitors popping by.
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Speaker 1: He's not afraid someone's going to knock on the door
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, dude, let's go grab a beer together.
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Speaker 1: This is an isolated person who is non threatening enough,
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Speaker 1: and he can come up and get those little handyman
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Speaker 1: jobs say hello to people in the community and again
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Speaker 1: were here a million times. Oh, he was such a
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Speaker 1: quiet person, he was such a nice boy. We had
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Speaker 1: no idea, and yet he was able to pull this off.
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Speaker 1: We also know this. We know that she did give
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Speaker 1: some clues very quickly to Mark class that she talked
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Speaker 1: about being locked up or hidden whenever the purp had
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Speaker 1: to leave. What do you make of it, Mark, Well,
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Speaker 1: she was a prisoner. I mean, she was absolutely a
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Speaker 1: prisoner like all of these kids are. She is completely
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Speaker 1: cut off from society. She has an old ability to
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Speaker 1: get away from the guy, and quite frankly, if these
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Speaker 1: things go on for a long period of time of
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Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome tends to set in and it becomes more
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Speaker 1: and more difficult for them to explicate themselves. So the
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Speaker 1: fact that she was able to escape and able to
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Speaker 1: fear there from from her end that someone was looking
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Speaker 1: for her. Didn't she didn't expressed like any like fear,
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Speaker 1: fear like. She didn't say that she was afraid that
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Speaker 1: person was coming after. She didn't say that somebody took her.
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Speaker 1: She did say that somebody killed her parents. Um she
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Speaker 1: told us a vehicle to be watching out for. Wow.
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Speaker 1: It just yeah, I can't even can't even believe it.
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Speaker 1: How are you guys processing it right now? I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you're if it's hits you yet, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's been a little bit of a hectic night. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how to repressed sing it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because you must have seen her face everywhere in the
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Speaker 1: last three months and then to actually have her sitting
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Speaker 1: in there. Yes, definitely, yep, her face all over and
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Speaker 1: our school has done um green for hope, event um
22:17
Speaker 1: well dressed in green for hope, for Jamie being found.
22:19
Speaker 1: I mean so, yes, Lucy in her face a lot,
22:23
Speaker 1: so I knew it was her the seconds she walked
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Speaker 1: in the door, and in her her physical state was
22:28
Speaker 1: she was She seemed to be okay physically, or she
22:32
Speaker 1: seemed I think so, I think overall, Yes, she looked tired. Um, yeah,
22:41
Speaker 1: she was tired. She looked I thought dinner than her
22:44
Speaker 1: photographs anyway. Um, a little unkept, but okay overall Bombshelle.
22:53
Speaker 1: Now Jamie Class, a thirteen year old girl, has been
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Speaker 1: found alive against all odds. Joining me psychologist, doctor william July.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at doctor Williams july dot com.
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Speaker 1: Reports aren't Jamie Claus turns up, quote like a ghost,
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Speaker 1: on a Wisconsin street, well over an hour away from
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Speaker 1: where her two parents were shot dead in their own
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Speaker 1: home one evening in October. Cops the rise arrived four
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Speaker 1: minutes later. Jamie is gone, you know, doctor Williams July.
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Speaker 1: I want to address something Alicia was telling us, Alicia
23:31
Speaker 1: Kausea Kevitch, who is a survivor herself, creator of the
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Speaker 1: Alicia Project, that all of the Internet trolls, all the haters,
23:41
Speaker 1: all the naysayers are saying, did she have something to
23:45
Speaker 1: do with it? Was it this little girl's fault? You
23:48
Speaker 1: know what. She's filthy, her hair is matted, she's wearing
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Speaker 1: somebody else's shoes. She took nothing with her. I find
23:58
Speaker 1: it very difficult to believe that this little girl who
24:02
Speaker 1: comes up and says, a man shot my parents had
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Speaker 1: anything to do with their death. You know, I think
24:09
Speaker 1: it's absolutely outrageous that anyone would even think about that.
24:14
Speaker 1: Right now, we have a person who is a little
24:16
Speaker 1: girl who has been absolutely totally traumatized and has been
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Speaker 1: through a horrific experience that most people can't even imagine.
24:24
Speaker 1: And I think that's the problem. We live in a
24:26
Speaker 1: world where this anonymity that people hide behind on the
24:30
Speaker 1: Internet desensitizes them to horrible acts like this, And when
24:36
Speaker 1: there's an act of this nature, people think that it's
24:40
Speaker 1: some sort of almost like a fictitious story. To most people,
24:44
Speaker 1: this is reality. This young lady has been terrible, you know,
24:48
Speaker 1: just completely traumatized, and that's why she was so numb
24:52
Speaker 1: when she was discovered. When she was discovered, and it's
24:55
Speaker 1: going to take a lifelong process of the parent herself
25:00
Speaker 1: and coming back around to some sort of sense of
25:04
Speaker 1: normalcy because everything that was normal to her has been
25:06
Speaker 1: completely turned upside down. And I just I'm so thankful
25:12
Speaker 1: to God that she had the resilience to do what
25:15
Speaker 1: she did do to escape. Yeah, because if you play
25:18
Speaker 1: it out to Vincent Hill cop turned PI, author of
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Speaker 1: playbook to a Murderer, Vincent, if you play out the scenario,
25:26
Speaker 1: it's very very rare that a kidnapper keeps a child
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Speaker 1: alive over you know, twenty four hours, much less seventy
25:34
Speaker 1: two hours, much less this long. And as in the
25:37
Speaker 1: case of with Alicia, and I'm going to go to
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Speaker 1: her in just a second. Her perpetrator, she believed, was
25:42
Speaker 1: about to kill her that afternoon before she was saved.
25:46
Speaker 1: I mean, if you spend this out and you logically
25:48
Speaker 1: look at the next step, what was he going to
25:51
Speaker 1: keep her forever, turn her into his child bride? What
25:55
Speaker 1: what was going to happen? I think that her life
25:58
Speaker 1: was in total jeopardy. Vince. He couldn't keep her forever. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
26:02
Speaker 1: he couldn't keep her forever because eventually somebody would be
26:05
Speaker 1: onto him. You know what's interesting, Nancy, I'm looking at
26:08
Speaker 1: Google Maps as we speak. This is a straight shot
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Speaker 1: down Highway fifty three from where Jamie was taken to
26:15
Speaker 1: where this guy or this person was found. So is
26:18
Speaker 1: this someone that kind of made his way into that
26:20
Speaker 1: town of Darren, kind of knew the family ard seeing Jamie.
26:24
Speaker 1: We don't know. There's a lot of questions. Investigators are
26:26
Speaker 1: coming through right now to figure out who this guy was.
26:30
Speaker 1: What was his motive? I said, way back in October, Nancy, motive,
26:34
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa? Did you just say, what
26:37
Speaker 1: was his motive? Holly Hughes, What was his motive? I mean,
26:40
Speaker 1: I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. Well, unfortunately,
26:45
Speaker 1: and I think Mark pointed it out first. We're speculating here,
26:49
Speaker 1: but it is sexual perversion. It is he wants somebody
26:53
Speaker 1: who was there at his beck and call. He's probably
26:55
Speaker 1: not able to have a post relationship with a female
26:58
Speaker 1: of his own age, so he needs to force someone
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Speaker 1: to be with him and to meet those ugly needs
27:04
Speaker 1: that he has. So what he's done is he has
27:06
Speaker 1: taken a captain who has no choice because it's do
27:09
Speaker 1: this or I'll kill you. Do this, or I'll beat you.
27:12
Speaker 1: Do this or I'll starve you. And so you know,
27:14
Speaker 1: the motive is that he literally just wants a plaything.
27:20
Speaker 1: It is a horrible reality, but it is truth. I mean,
27:24
Speaker 1: and when you look at it statistically, Vincent Hill, I
27:26
Speaker 1: agree with what Holly said. Vincent Hill, a former cop
27:30
Speaker 1: turned PI and now author. When you look you know
27:34
Speaker 1: what Vincent hold on. Let me go to Alicia. Alicia
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Speaker 1: Kasey Kevitch is a child kidnap and sex assault survivor.
27:45
Speaker 1: She is now a tireless advocate and founder of the
27:48
Speaker 1: Alicia Project. Alicia, you're the one that first said that
27:52
Speaker 1: commented on the ugly things said online about this girl.
27:57
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it hurts me. I read the
28:00
Speaker 1: day my children read all the horrible stuff written about
28:03
Speaker 1: me online. Every case I ever tried has been picked
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Speaker 1: apart and is cast in the worst light. Everything is
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Speaker 1: nefarious and evil and awful. Why do people do that?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but let me ask you this, Alicia,
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Speaker 1: how has it affected you all thig people. A reason
28:18
Speaker 1: that people do that is because they think now that
28:21
Speaker 1: they own the story, that they've watched it like it's
28:23
Speaker 1: a movie, and now they deserve the ending. They deserve
28:26
Speaker 1: to know all the loopholes, they deserve to know everything.
28:28
Speaker 1: And also they just like to rile people up. And
28:31
Speaker 1: it's one of the most frustrating things. And when it
28:35
Speaker 1: comes to blaming her, I just want to point out,
28:38
Speaker 1: because people forget this, that he murdered her parents, so
28:42
Speaker 1: that when he said I'm going to kill you, there
28:45
Speaker 1: was no oh, maybe he won't. The threat was real,
28:49
Speaker 1: so her to escape was so brave and it's so
28:53
Speaker 1: terrible to read those comments. I always want you don't
28:56
Speaker 1: see the troll, but I always want to comment back
28:59
Speaker 1: and support, and that's not the way to do it.
29:03
Speaker 1: We have to just support her by either being kind
29:08
Speaker 1: and joining in the celebration. Alicia, and you were there,
29:12
Speaker 1: you were in her shoes. You're convinced your kidnapper was
29:16
Speaker 1: going to kill you that afternoon, after having you chained
29:19
Speaker 1: up and bound and unable to escape. You knew your
29:23
Speaker 1: life was ending that day. I did. And he kidnapped
29:27
Speaker 1: her for a reason, but eventually his games are going
29:29
Speaker 1: to have to come to an end. He was going
29:31
Speaker 1: to have to kill her. There there just unreal, And
29:39
Speaker 1: that's what we've been waiting for free day, eight days
29:43
Speaker 1: to come. I mean, every day you expect something, but
29:48
Speaker 1: then it seems like when you finally a day goes
29:52
Speaker 1: by and you're not really expecting anything in an awesome bam.
29:55
Speaker 1: I mean, we got our false information this afternoon and
29:59
Speaker 1: then to have within hours later the most amazing news
30:05
Speaker 1: we can possibly get. I mean, it's a complete opposite
30:10
Speaker 1: of what we were feeling. Just a diego. It's crazy,
30:14
Speaker 1: great emotions that you can't explain. It's just it's unreal. Man.
30:20
Speaker 1: You're hearing Jamie Claus's uncle Steve Niberg telling Fox Nines
30:25
Speaker 1: Paul Bloom about what a difference one day makes. Yesterday,
30:33
Speaker 1: they were in the depths of despair, not giving up,
30:37
Speaker 1: but so desolate about the kidnap of thirteen year old
30:40
Speaker 1: Jamie Claus, the murder of her mom and dad, and
30:43
Speaker 1: now she is alive. In response to what Alicia Kausea
30:48
Speaker 1: Kevitch was telling us a kidnaped survivor as a child
30:51
Speaker 1: founder of Alicia Project Mark Class Founder Class Kids Foundation,
30:55
Speaker 1: let me point out that front door, while it wasn't
30:58
Speaker 1: burglarized with it like a crowbar, it was kicked in.
31:02
Speaker 1: According to sources, there is nothing, Nancy that a child
31:07
Speaker 1: can do to stop a determined predator. There's absolutely nothing.
31:13
Speaker 1: They're overpowered in every way, shape and form, which is
31:18
Speaker 1: why it's up to us, once we identify who these
31:21
Speaker 1: individuals are, to protect the kids and the rest of
31:24
Speaker 1: the vulnerable citizens from these individuals. They're evil to the core.
31:29
Speaker 1: They've got no redeeming qualities, and we know that the
31:33
Speaker 1: ultimate outcome, as Alicia just mentioned, is going to be deaf.
31:37
Speaker 1: So we have to protect kids from these characters if
31:41
Speaker 1: and when we're able to identify who they are. They're big,
31:45
Speaker 1: they're mean, they're evil, and they're determined. So what else
31:50
Speaker 1: can one do? You know? This is what we know
31:53
Speaker 1: late last nine, investigators blocking off all the streets leading
31:57
Speaker 1: to a cabin there at south at Eau Claire Acres Circle,
32:05
Speaker 1: and they combed everything for evidence the residents believed to
32:08
Speaker 1: be that of a twenty one year old male. We
32:11
Speaker 1: now believe he is being held in the Douglas County jail.
32:15
Speaker 1: Not getting any more details overnight, but I wonder what
32:19
Speaker 1: they're doing in that cabin. To Dave Max, syndicated talk
32:23
Speaker 1: show host, we know that there is a very important
32:26
Speaker 1: press conference about to occur, tell me about it at
32:29
Speaker 1: that time. We're going to hear more about what's transpired
32:32
Speaker 1: over the last eighty seven days, because, as you mentioned,
32:35
Speaker 1: they gave out very little information her after she was
32:39
Speaker 1: actually found alive. A matter of fact, yesterday afternoon we
32:42
Speaker 1: had a report that was called false that the sheriff said, Nope,
32:46
Speaker 1: it's not true, we didn't find her, and then a
32:47
Speaker 1: couple hours later they announced, yes, we have and it
32:50
Speaker 1: is Jamie. But they are withholding almost all the information.
32:53
Speaker 1: It'll all come out later on this morning and over
32:55
Speaker 1: the ensuing days, we expect to know who they have
32:58
Speaker 1: in custody. We know it's the twenty one year old man.
33:01
Speaker 1: We expect to find out if they were in that
33:03
Speaker 1: cabin for the entire time. As Jamie indicated, she felt
33:06
Speaker 1: like she had been in that cabin the entire time,
33:09
Speaker 1: and we'll find out some more particulars about the actual
33:12
Speaker 1: murder scene and what happened the night she was taken
33:15
Speaker 1: straight out to Vincent Hill, PI and author of Playbook
33:17
Speaker 1: to a Murder. We know that that cabin, that remote
33:21
Speaker 1: cabin there in a clear about eighty miles from Minneapolis.
33:26
Speaker 1: To get a mental image of where this is big
33:29
Speaker 1: hunting fishing area. What are they doing inside that cabin
33:34
Speaker 1: right now, still cordoned off, Nancy. They're going through that
33:39
Speaker 1: with a fine tooth comb. They're looking for any type
33:42
Speaker 1: of evidence physical. They're taking pictures everything inside that home.
33:48
Speaker 1: Plus they want to know what is there someone else
33:50
Speaker 1: inside that cabin outside of this twenty one year old
33:53
Speaker 1: There could have been someone else, Nancy. So they're checking
33:56
Speaker 1: all of that to mark class the feelings her family
34:02
Speaker 1: is going through right now. Explain what you went through, well, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I was living in fair and anger for the entire
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Speaker 1: sixty five days that my daughter was missing, But overriding
34:14
Speaker 1: all of that, I had hope. I had hoped that
34:17
Speaker 1: we would find her and we would be able to
34:19
Speaker 1: bring her home alive. And as long as hope exists,
34:22
Speaker 1: there's always a chance that the child will be found
34:26
Speaker 1: and will come home alive. But it becomes more and
34:30
Speaker 1: more difficult as time goes on to be able to
34:32
Speaker 1: hold on to that hope. So I think when you
34:35
Speaker 1: get to a point where the child has been gone
34:38
Speaker 1: three months, four months, something like that, that you know,
34:42
Speaker 1: you go from a different status. You go from a
34:46
Speaker 1: search to trying to grasp the gold ring to find
34:51
Speaker 1: the miracle in the event. And that's what happened here.
34:55
Speaker 1: And I can only imagine the sense of relief that
34:58
Speaker 1: exists within that only now and their sense of goodwill
35:02
Speaker 1: towards humanity for the simple fact that so many people
35:05
Speaker 1: supported this effort and that it was successfully resolved. Let's
35:10
Speaker 1: take a listen now to the press or with law
35:13
Speaker 1: enforcement on the latest with Jamie Class. For rady eight days,
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Speaker 1: I have stood before you and said we would work
35:18
Speaker 1: tiresly to bring Jamie Class home. Today I can report
35:21
Speaker 1: we have done just that. At this moment, Jamie is
35:24
Speaker 1: being in the comforting embrace of law enforcement as the
35:27
Speaker 1: investigation in her three month or deal ensues. Eighty eight
35:30
Speaker 1: days ago, we stood before you speaking about the unthinkable
35:34
Speaker 1: tragedy and asked you to help us find thirteen year
35:36
Speaker 1: old Jamie Class. Last night, our collective promise was fulfilled
35:41
Speaker 1: with Jamie's safe recovery, Jamie's faith safe in the family's
35:45
Speaker 1: requesting that you please respect their privacy at this extremely
35:48
Speaker 1: emotional time. I'm now going to bring up Sheriff Tom Dolbeck,
35:51
Speaker 1: the Douglas County Sheriff, and he'll address this part of
35:54
Speaker 1: the incident. My agency received a nine one one call
35:58
Speaker 1: about four thirty yesterday afternoon from an individual who was
36:02
Speaker 1: out walking her dog said she was approached by a
36:06
Speaker 1: young female claiming to be Jamie Class. This lady immediately
36:10
Speaker 1: went to a nearby house, notified that neighbor of the claim,
36:15
Speaker 1: and this neighbor called nine one one, and my deputies
36:19
Speaker 1: responded en mass immediately and identified Jamie as the person
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Speaker 1: that approached the neighbor, took control of her, in possession
36:28
Speaker 1: of her and put her in safe keeping, and a
36:31
Speaker 1: short time later, one of my patrol sergeants happened to
36:35
Speaker 1: find a vehicle that matched the description that Jamie gave.
36:38
Speaker 1: My deputies of the suspect and pulled the vehicle over
36:41
Speaker 1: her and took the suspect and custody at that time.
36:45
Speaker 1: Beyond that, Jamie was taken to a local hospital up
36:48
Speaker 1: in the lou Superior area where she was looked over
36:51
Speaker 1: and examined, and she was held overnight for observation, and
36:56
Speaker 1: the suspect was interviewed and subsequently brought back down here
36:59
Speaker 1: to Baron call. Thank you Sheriff Dalvick, and thank your
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Speaker 1: deputies for the work that they helped in this case.
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Speaker 1: The suspect arrested, it was arrested is currently being held
37:07
Speaker 1: in the Baron County Jail. That suspect is Jake Thomas
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Speaker 1: Patterson p A T T E R. S O N.
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Speaker 1: He is twenty one years old from Gordon, Wisconsin. He
37:18
Speaker 1: is currently being held on two counts a first degree
37:20
Speaker 1: intentional homicide for the murder of Jamie's parents and one
37:24
Speaker 1: count of kidnapping. We do plan a four pm media
37:27
Speaker 1: update with more details to be released at that time.
37:30
Speaker 1: Right here, as you heard the charges of the suspect.
37:33
Speaker 1: The suspect is being charged with kidnapping. Jamie was taken
37:37
Speaker 1: against her will and escape from a residence at which
37:40
Speaker 1: she was being held and found help. We also do
37:43
Speaker 1: not believe that this time that the subspect had any
37:45
Speaker 1: contact with the family. We do believe Jamie was the
37:48
Speaker 1: only target. I can tell you that the subject planned
37:52
Speaker 1: his actions and took many proactive steps to hide his
37:55
Speaker 1: identity from law enforcement and the general public or the
37:58
Speaker 1: other about Jamie's to meet here, her condition in those
38:03
Speaker 1: mounds where she volume, she looked like she's sound, life
38:07
Speaker 1: and now description I can talk about now. Um, she
38:13
Speaker 1: is good. She's been cleared from the hospital. As Sheriff
38:15
Speaker 1: Delbeck said, there is a reunification process in place going
38:20
Speaker 1: on right now that includes medical, mental evaluations, questioning by
38:26
Speaker 1: detectives and FBI and DCI agents, and then reunification with family.
38:35
Speaker 1: We do not know that this group behind me does
38:37
Speaker 1: not have that information. We are this is a very
38:40
Speaker 1: active and fluid case. We are serving search warrants right
38:43
Speaker 1: at this moment in Gordon in other areas for vehicles
38:48
Speaker 1: looking for evidence, and again that we hope the release
38:51
Speaker 1: a lot more of that information. At four o'clock. Jamie
38:56
Speaker 1: was the target. So what action, what contact did the
39:01
Speaker 1: suspect happen? That's what we're trying to figure out now,
39:04
Speaker 1: but we believe it was very um. We believe there's
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Speaker 1: really none no contact. Do you know what they I
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Speaker 1: don't know that. And now our prayers go on for
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Speaker 1: Jamie Class Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off, Getbye friend,