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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, the podcast all about soilless cultivation.
- 0:04Today we're talking about powdery mildew and that's a subject I think I should
- 0:08have covered already in the podcast because it's a fairly big common problem
- 0:13in hydroponics, both grow room-based hydroponics and greenhouse-based hydroponics.
- 0:19It's probably the most common fungal disease, well I know it is,
- 0:24it's the most common fungal disease.
- 0:25Now lots of plants get powdery mildew. Every plant apart from conifers.
- 0:32Conifers are immune to powdery mildew. They get other diseases.
- 0:35They get a lot of things like rusts and rots, but they are resistant to powdery mildew.
- 0:41Every other plant, every other crop will be getting powdery mildew.
- 0:45And it's called the same name, but it's actually lots of different species of fungi.
- 0:52And the problem is they all look the same, so they're all given the same name.
- 0:56Most of the ones that are on edible crops belong to the genus Blumeria,
- 1:01so the scientific name is Blumeria graminis for those that affect all the grass
- 1:06species and other species of Blumeria.
- 1:09It's got the same name as the mildew that grows in your house when you've got a soggy bathroom,
- 1:15very moist conditions, however it's completely unrelated to any molds that you
- 1:20might call mildews in home and that can cause some problems because we have.
- 1:25Biofungicides at Eutrema that work to control mildew on crops and then people
- 1:30say oh it didn't work in my bathroom it's like well you're not going to activate
- 1:34plant defense mechanisms in your bathroom so mildew is a term that's just used
- 1:39for any sort of mold whether that's black mold or white mold.
- 1:44And in plants, as I say, everything that gives a powdery appearance on the leaves
- 1:49is called powdery mildew and everything that gives sort of like a downy,
- 1:53a hairy type growth is called downy mildew.
- 1:56So the downy mildews are not related to powdery mildews, completely unrelated,
- 2:01as related as you are to an octopus.
- 2:03So completely unrelated, they just look similar to the human eye.
- 2:07When you actually get on a microscopic level and a genetic level completely
- 2:10different and powdery mildews are far more common and they are common when you've
- 2:15got really high humidity in the air, high temperatures and dry soils.
- 2:20So a lot of hydroponic growers like to keep their soils on the dry side and
- 2:24if you've got a high temperature in the summer this is where you're going to
- 2:27really struggle with powdery mildew.
- 2:31The good news is that because they're completely unrelated and.
- 2:35The different types of powdery mildew on the different crops,
- 2:38you can't get cross-contamination.
- 2:39So if you've got powdery mildew on your tomato plants and your tomato plants
- 2:44share a grow room or a greenhouse with cucumbers, you're not going to get cross-contamination
- 2:49because they can only infect the plant that they've evolved to infect.
- 2:54So that's not a problem. However, the same conditions will stimulate the growth.
- 2:59So wet air, humid air, and dry soils, high temperatures.
- 3:04High nitrogen levels will also stimulate powdery mildew
- 3:07and a crowded grow room where you've got those conditions
- 3:11of high humidity is going to exacerbate that
- 3:14with having a crowded grow room so be careful
- 3:17of that just when you think about cramming more plants in having under canopy
- 3:20lighting powdery mildew will be your biggest problem so as i say it's often
- 3:24it's white growth on your leaves if it starts to turn black that means it's
- 3:29sporulating producing microscopic spores and then you're in a world of pain
- 3:34because you're going to get even more powdery mildew.
- 3:36Your whole installation will be covered in spores and so you really want to
- 3:41control it way way way before you get to the sporylation phase.
- 3:46It's a biotrophic fungus and by that means it feeds off the plants and it doesn't kill the cells.
- 3:56It just sucks the energy out of them, the life out of them.
- 3:59That contrasts with a necrotrophic fungus
- 4:03which just eats the plant as you go along so something like fusarium
- 4:06is a is a is a necrotrophic fungi but a biotrophic one it goes into stealth
- 4:12mode it's like a parasite in the cells and that's important because if you do
- 4:16apply things like chitosan which is a biofungicide it activates the plant defenses
- 4:22and makes them turn on and recognise the plants.
- 4:25And so the powdery mildew, to get a bit nerdy, actually turns off the plant
- 4:31defences. It means it can't sense it.
- 4:34And the plants are normally trying to look out for chitin which is what
- 4:36all fungal cell walls are made of and all pests are made
- 4:39of the fungus goes in turns those defenses off and that's
- 4:42how it becomes biotrophic and leads to an infection the plant
- 4:45just doesn't know it's there so if you go on with something like chitosan a
- 4:49biofungicide and spray it on suddenly the plant wakes up and realizes oh
- 4:52shit i'm under attack okay so that's one
- 4:55one good way of of looking at powdery mildew
- 4:58ways of controlling powdery mildew obviously quarantining
- 5:02any new plant material that comes in that's really important if you're
- 5:05growing a plant that's not common in
- 5:08your area because you're only going to
- 5:10get it really it comes in on the air through
- 5:13it'll go through any inlet filter so you can't really keep the
- 5:16spores out it'll come in through vents it will
- 5:19come but if you say you've got a plant
- 5:22that only grows no one grows it near you and it only normally
- 5:25grows in japan then it's going to come in on the plant material so
- 5:27you've got to be really careful quarantining it or even seeds you
- 5:31can you've got to make sure you sterilize them as we know at
- 5:34utreema we deal with a lot of seed companies and they have powdery mildew issues
- 5:40you know there's not a grower out there there's no powdery mildew issues they
- 5:44can try and reduce those the incidence of powdery mildew by growing it in places
- 5:48where there's a lot drier air warmer conditions in the winter.
- 5:51But they still have powdery mildew.
- 5:53Anyone who's growing a seasonal crop in tropics like Thailand,
- 5:58they'll have powdery mildew.
- 6:00So quarantine is essential, seed sterilisation is essential.
- 6:04You can, there are ladybirds that actually eat powdery mildew,
- 6:09and people have looked at this as a biocontrol.
- 6:12I think they're native to, it might be native to the UK, but certainly native
- 6:17to Australia, you get a lot of yellow ladybirds down there.
- 6:20And so there's potential for biocontrol that you could release yellow ladybirds.
- 6:24I don't think anyone does that at the moment.
- 6:27So I've said kitesan is a biofungicide. There are conventional fungicides, however,
- 6:31do you want to be eating fungicides and normally they
- 6:34can't be applied 30 days until harvest and they can only be applied
- 6:37once or twice on a crop whereas chyterzan you
- 6:40can apply at any time you can play up to eight times i
- 6:43think legally in the eu and the uk and you can apply it right up until harvest
- 6:47because it's you know food grade and you don't need to get your people out of
- 6:52your greenhouse while you're while you're spraying it so that's really good
- 6:55for commercial situations where you don't want to stop production for 30 days
- 6:59and you don't want to take people out the greenhouse while you're spraying.
- 7:02So have a look at chitosan. Chitosan is spelled C-H-I-T-O-S-A-N.
- 7:08Some people call it chitosan. I've heard it called chitosan,
- 7:13but it's called chitosan.
- 7:15You might also want to look at resistant varieties.
- 7:18Some plants, they breed for resistance to powdery mildew.
- 7:22So things like arable crops and also pea crops,
- 7:26whereas in other medicinal plants and things like this, they
- 7:29don't breed for powdery mildew resistance it's not
- 7:32a big one in hops it's more like verticillium fusarium rules
- 7:35things like this where they're going to breed out viruses they're
- 7:38trying to breed those out a great example of breeding
- 7:41for successful preventing powdery mildew is
- 7:45sweet peas so sweet peas normally get really do get a lot of powdery mildew
- 7:49and it's found that wild peas don't get powdery mildew so they bred in the genes
- 7:54for just conventional breeding by crossing them with the wild peas and then
- 7:59crossing the progeny of that cross with sweet peas again,
- 8:04they sort of got back to a sweet pea variety.
- 8:08Crucially, still maintaining the powdery mildew resistance they got from the
- 8:12wild pea on the initial cross.
- 8:13So that's really interesting that you, you know, if you want to go out there
- 8:17and look for powdery mildew resistance in your plant species you work with,
- 8:22maybe you could breed a powdery mildew resistant variety or strain or cultivar.
- 8:27However, certainly arable farmers, they'll know that disease resistance is not
- 8:33a static thing. and some varieties that were once considered fully resistant
- 8:37now get the disease commonly and things like that.
- 8:41So that's something to consider. Don't look at old literature and say,
- 8:45oh, that one's resistant to it because it might not be resistant.
- 8:48Powdery mildew is an interesting fungus. You'll often see claims from vertical
- 8:53farmers that vertical farms say that one of the reasons vertical farming is
- 8:57great is because there's no pest or disease in the grow room in these vertical farms.
- 9:01And I can believe there's no pests but i
- 9:04can't believe there's no powdery mildew you think about all the stacks and
- 9:07stacks of of plants growing in luscious nutrient
- 9:11rich water fertigation solution
- 9:14and and all that requirements who
- 9:17have air being sucked in unless they've got extremely good
- 9:20filters i would imagine powdery mildew will
- 9:23rear its head and will need to be controlled just like
- 9:26any other growing environments so powdery mildew
- 9:30i think is probably more prevalent in vertical
- 9:33farms than people are letting on it's say it's
- 9:36the number one problem in in grow rooms certainly because
- 9:39you in the summer it's going to get really hot and humid
- 9:42when you look at ways to control
- 9:45powdery mildew you will see reports of lots
- 9:48of different homemade solutions working so
- 9:52people say you know milk spraying milk onto your plants helps
- 9:55control powdery mildew what else like let's
- 9:58have a look i made a list when i was writing my
- 10:01book and so here we go so potential standard kitchen spice rack ingredients
- 10:07that people have done studies on ginger turmeric asafadikta that's an indian
- 10:12spice isn't it peppermint mustard and they've all been found to show effects
- 10:17against powdery mildew garlic,
- 10:20field horsetail, Japanese knotweed, oilseed rape,
- 10:24ginger, sweet flag, even some poisonous plants.
- 10:30And the key thing to remember here is that in these studies,
- 10:36very rarely did they spray on a water control treatment onto the control plants.
- 10:41Because in science, when you're doing a treatment to see if it has an effect,
- 10:45you spray water onto the control plants and then you have your extract on your
- 10:48other plants whereas these were just assuming that water was not going to control
- 10:51powdery mildew and in reality spraying anything onto your crop helps control
- 10:57powdery mildew and that's because.
- 11:01The spores of powdery mildew germinate instantaneously as soon as they're in water.
- 11:07And so they think they're in the plant. And so they produce their long germination
- 11:12tube and try and get themselves into a stomata.
- 11:15And if you're spraying water on them, they're washing off and they're germinating.
- 11:20So spraying anything controls powdery mildew. And that's why they've got all
- 11:22these reports of all these different plants and all these different
- 11:25spices and food ingredients that potentially could control
- 11:28powdery mildew because people haven't realized they should have been
- 11:31spraying the water on the control to have a fair comparison when
- 11:34you do that the results are a lot less infrequent that
- 11:37you get a good control of powdery mildew you will
- 11:40see some products that are based on copper for controlling
- 11:43powdery mildew and especially downy mildew as we said is
- 11:46completely unrelated don't be spraying copper based products like
- 11:49bordeaux mixture they are extremely toxic
- 11:52to you the soil and if
- 11:55you're eating crops that contain copper it's not good for you it's
- 11:58a heavy metal it's residual so and
- 12:01it and it kills the soil biology so don't spray copper even if
- 12:04you think it's more natural than spraying a fungicide i would rather
- 12:07i'd rather eat crops that have been sprayed with fungicide than
- 12:10sprayed with copper but preferentially i'd spray them with
- 12:13chitosan as a as a biofungicide so that's
- 12:16been hydroponics daily for today a long overdue episode about
- 12:20powdery mildew probably do a follow-up because i've probably missed loads
- 12:23about powdery mildew it's a massive subject and there's
- 12:26loads to consider so until tomorrow if you found this interesting if you know
- 12:30somebody's suffering from powdery mildew then share it with them if somebody
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- 12:42much for listening till tomorrow goodbye.