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and Emile Hirsch · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, my loves it is yours truly La La kent Ram,
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  Speaker 1: and we are back at it again. I'm super excited
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  Speaker 1: for our guests today because anyone who has more talent
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  Speaker 1: in their pinky nail than most people have in their
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  Speaker 1: entire bodies. I'm just fascinated by.
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  Speaker 2: Well so very well said. Trying to comprehend that whole statement.
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  Speaker 1: Did it make any sense. It's a Monday, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: coming off of Mother's Day. Randall brought my mom and
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  Speaker 1: my brother in and I'm gonna be honest, like I
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  Speaker 1: have to force myself to not be lazy. And today
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  Speaker 1: it's a struggle.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but let's be let's let's give ourselves a
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  Speaker 3: little a little grace here.
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  Speaker 2: It's we're still in quarantine in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: That word I never win. The this is over you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I never want to hear the word quarantine ever again.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so, not only we quarantine, we had family in
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  Speaker 3: town and it's Monday. It's like, yeah, it's like we
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  Speaker 3: need to like light a stick of dynamite in our
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  Speaker 3: asses to wake up.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we.
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  Speaker 3: Got it, but we got to do it today because
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  Speaker 3: you know, what people rely on us to light them up,
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  Speaker 3: so we're going.
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  Speaker 2: To do it today.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I rely on this podcast to make me feel amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I could be in the worst mood ever,
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  Speaker 1: and then after we record a podcast, I'm like, let's
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  Speaker 1: get this shit pop in best day ever.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited because Emil Hirsh. You know, I just
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  Speaker 3: want to tell you a little story that I first
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  Speaker 3: spent a meal on Loan Survivor and we share not
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  Speaker 3: only a love for movies, but we share a love
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  Speaker 3: for poker, which I know you right now haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: a lot of poker in the last few months. But
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  Speaker 3: we were to New Mexico together for a while and
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  Speaker 3: we every day off we had we played poker together.
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  Speaker 3: He is the nicest human in the world. And now
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  Speaker 3: I'm fortunate enough to be directing him in this movie Midnight,
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  Speaker 3: So I know there's a lot of movies we both
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  Speaker 3: love that he's been in, and I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: share some fun stories for us.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because you say that you guys used to
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  Speaker 1: play poker, and now with the state that we're in,
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  Speaker 1: you guys play pickleball together. He was just at the
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  Speaker 1: house is right, whacking some balls around like a like
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  Speaker 1: a little gangster.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we tell people about your experience that day
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  Speaker 3: in the pickleball match, your real commitment and.
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  Speaker 1: Lack of There's this thing called being like a sore loser,
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  Speaker 1: and that is exactly what I am. If I'm playing
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  Speaker 1: a game and I'm getting my ass kicked, I will
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  Speaker 1: just give up and walk away, which is exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I want to I want to elaborate on
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  Speaker 2: that a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure you do.
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  Speaker 3: You want me to pivot again? Tell no, I want
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  Speaker 3: to really gonna mock me on Monday. What I want
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  Speaker 3: to say is you're a really good pick a ball player.
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  Speaker 3: You are, and you're a great athlete. What happened to you?
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  Speaker 3: What people don't know is that when you get down
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  Speaker 3: by two or three points, you basically check the fuck out.
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  Speaker 2: And not only do you.
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  Speaker 3: Check out, I'm your partner on team trying to win.
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  Speaker 3: Still you're done. You were preaching housewives in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because I love playing pickleball. But when Randall
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  Speaker 1: tells me that he wants me to come out and play,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm balls deep in season three of Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: of New York and I'm having an epic throwback moment
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  Speaker 1: and you take me out of that moment, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: just disconnected. I'm like, I love the game, but I
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  Speaker 1: love Housewives more. So I'm just like pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: But I will tell you something.
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  Speaker 3: Emil and Lucas Haas, who we had playing with us,
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  Speaker 3: both gave you a lot of props when you went inside,
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  Speaker 3: which I know you'd never heard, but.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, manah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: Your chip plays pickleball and she's badass and da da dah.
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  Speaker 3: So they did give you a lot of props just
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  Speaker 3: for the effort. It just wasn't your greatest pickleball day.
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  Speaker 1: No, neither was yesterday. My mom is on the court.
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  Speaker 1: We're having the best time ever. Here is the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Randal and I should never be on those teams teams
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  Speaker 1: because way too competitive. And then he's like the most
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  Speaker 1: annoying winner ever. I love you, Randall, but you are.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm watching him and he's.
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  Speaker 4: Winning and you don't have to finding it right now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching you on the other side of the net,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, God, I want to smack him with
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  Speaker 4: my pickleball racket right now, just over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're the most annoying winner ever. You love me.
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  Speaker 1: It means that you're like, I mean winning bend Over
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  Speaker 1: the best winner ever.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like over.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, so you're telling me when I went, I told
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  Speaker 3: you to bend Over. Okay, this is bullshit. First myself,
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  Speaker 3: I think you're putting on a show here.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm an you're the worst winner.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a competitive person.
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  Speaker 1: Well so am I. That's what we should be on
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  Speaker 1: the same team.
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  Speaker 3: Well we already agree that going forward, no matter what,
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  Speaker 3: under any circumstances, we are going to be on same
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  Speaker 3: team for life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to be a better folder. But it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. I mean, I'm almost thirty and I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing this since I was a kid. Like, fuck
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  Speaker 1: this game, I'm out. If I'm not winning, if.
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  Speaker 2: You're down by two points, you quit. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 2: just be.
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  Speaker 1: Honest, because I'm better than that. I'm a winner, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and when I'm losing, I'm like, you're better than this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: to just get the fuck out. And have like some pride.
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  Speaker 3: So the crazy thing is you are a really good
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  Speaker 3: pickleball player. It's just the mental part of the game.
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  Speaker 3: We got to work on a little bit, just.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things mentally I should be working
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  Speaker 1: on a regular basis, not just when it comes to pickleball.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me.
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  Speaker 2: That makes two of us.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Can I say, can I say something? You
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  Speaker 3: remember my favorite nickname for.
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  Speaker 2: You, Hoopies hoopye.
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  Speaker 3: I wish people could see you right now because you
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  Speaker 3: have the hoops the size of your head again back
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  Speaker 3: in and it just makes me so happy.
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  Speaker 2: And with the ear with the headphones.
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  Speaker 3: Face, it's like some robotic mask you have on. It's
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  Speaker 3: pretty fucking funny. You should you got a screenshot and
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  Speaker 3: put that on your gram so people at when it
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  Speaker 3: comes out.
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  Speaker 2: Can see what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, we got to go to break here and
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  Speaker 3: then after we're gonna bring a meal Hershion.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. All right, We are back, beautiful people,
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  Speaker 1: and we have an epic guest on the line, the greatest,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest.
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  Speaker 2: We have a meal hersh on the line.
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  Speaker 3: The meal Hello, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love the energy.
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  Speaker 2: It's Monday and the meal is firing like.
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  Speaker 5: Me Monday, I am no Garfield. I like Mondays.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. So first of all, I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: your pickleball skills are on point. We've I've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about it since you left the house. I'm gonna kick
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  Speaker 1: your ass next time you come to the house with
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  Speaker 1: that little.
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  Speaker 5: Zinger, dude. That was honestly, that was some funny, funny,
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  Speaker 5: amazing times because like me and Randall are both so
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  Speaker 5: competitive and when we got on the court, but it's
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  Speaker 5: funny because I'm such like a like a mental player,
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  Speaker 5: and I actually like Randall's frustration when we were playing
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  Speaker 5: actually like made me that much better. Like I'm not
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  Speaker 5: even normally that good, but because Randall was so competitive,
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  Speaker 5: like it like really brought it out of me. And
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  Speaker 5: that was honestly so much fun I hope that.
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  Speaker 1: You talked that same way when you think of him
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  Speaker 1: as a director.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, by the way, by the way, I
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  Speaker 5: actually I told him. I texted him afterwards. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know how I know you're a great director, Randall.
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  Speaker 5: You bring the best out of me.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm really not joking. There's some people that
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  Speaker 5: they just they bring the best out of other people
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  Speaker 5: around them. And Randalls, really, you you are one of
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  Speaker 5: those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, buddy, And I'll tell you he did
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  Speaker 3: text me after and that meant a lot. And I
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  Speaker 3: want to tell you I'm competitive as fucking you whip
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  Speaker 3: my ass, which I'm very upset about. And I've been
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  Speaker 3: working every day with a coach. That's how obsessed I am.
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  Speaker 3: So come on back and I'll give you your ass
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  Speaker 3: whipping you deserve.
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  Speaker 5: Well. See, now I'm scared. Now, I'm scared to go back.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Bil, sometimes it's better to just take
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  Speaker 3: the win and revel in it forever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just never go back. Like, no, no, I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: I don't play anymore. I'm more into ping pong now,
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: you know. I went skateboarding the other day with my
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  Speaker 5: homie Kenny from high school, and he hit me up.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, should we do some like social distance skateboarding
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  Speaker 5: full and I'm like, it's like, literally how we talked
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  Speaker 5: in high school, just like these dumb ass LA guys.
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  Speaker 5: So I roll up to his place with my skateboard
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  Speaker 5: and mind you, I did Lords of Dogtown when I
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  Speaker 5: was nineteen, but I was a skateboarder in middle school.
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  Speaker 5: But it's been frigging years since I've skated. But I
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  Speaker 5: used to do these kickflips and I could kickflip over things.
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  Speaker 5: So I started skating. And immediately we go we go
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  Speaker 5: to like some curb, and everyone by the way is
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  Speaker 5: looking at us, like, what are these guys in their
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  Speaker 5: mid thirties doing, like with their shirts off, skating on
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  Speaker 5: the curve And this is this is actually really embarrassing.
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  Speaker 5: But like Kenny's house is right across the like right
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  Speaker 5: by my son's pediatricians office.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow, So.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm literally a shirtless dude skating in front of
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  Speaker 5: his like son's doctor's office. Like I was like, this
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  Speaker 5: is kind of this is kind of like weird.
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  Speaker 2: We do it.
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  Speaker 5: Kenny immediately tries to like one d up a curve,
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  Speaker 5: the board flies out from underneath him and he just
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  Speaker 5: gets bodied to the chest. Oh for a minute, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh no, Kenny, it's been a while now, Like, Kenny,
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  Speaker 5: this was your idea. You can't like break your spine
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  Speaker 5: on your first trick. But we eventually got a a
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  Speaker 5: few takes of me kick flipping over aboard. I hadn't
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  Speaker 5: done that trick in eighteen years. Oh my god, I
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  Speaker 5: landed it. I stuck it. I put it on my Instagram.
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  Speaker 5: I was like so proud of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you did you stuck it?
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  Speaker 5: I did so. I tried to do a kick flip
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  Speaker 5: four days later, and I had like bruised my hamstring
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  Speaker 5: a week before. So when I landed my first pick
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  Speaker 5: flip I tried, it was like a shooting pain and
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  Speaker 5: I just like went to the ground and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not twelve anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's when you know you're you're a grown ass man.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can't be doing that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree, disagree. I just want to tell you that
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  Speaker 2: when I bought my.
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  Speaker 3: Kids a skateboard, it's just because they wanted one and
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  Speaker 3: I thought, I'm going to bring it back to Miami
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  Speaker 3: old school.
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  Speaker 1: Did that go for you?
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  Speaker 2: Not good? But but I just hold on.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I could kick the board out still,
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  Speaker 3: but I cannot flip that shit anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's gone. Those days are over over. But I Meil,
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  Speaker 2: I give you mad.
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  Speaker 3: Props for going out there and still crushing. I do
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  Speaker 3: mad promm.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it had it had Legit been eighteen
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  Speaker 5: years since I kick flip like a boss over a
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  Speaker 5: staatee word on its side.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I just want to tell you
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  Speaker 3: Lord's a Dogtown for those who have not seen it,
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  Speaker 3: is one of the greatest ever, I mean, just epic film.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to ask I just want to ask.
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  Speaker 3: You a few questions, like, because people have watched you,
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  Speaker 3: you you've won awards, you've been nominated for everything, and
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  Speaker 3: you're considered and I'm gonna blow your ego up. You
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  Speaker 3: are considered one of those actors that are the real deal.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: And when I say that from an industry point of view,
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  Speaker 3: I think audiences know, but they don't know how to
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  Speaker 3: verbalize it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like there's the Joaquin.
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  Speaker 3: Phoenixes, that Daniel day Lewis's and the Emial Hersch's of
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  Speaker 3: the world, people that you know, when you bring them
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  Speaker 3: onto a film, you're gonna get the highest level of quality.
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: And I've always said that to you since we did
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  Speaker 3: Loan Survivor together, and you know that. I mean, I
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: know you don't say it, but they're just certain actors
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  Speaker 3: that are true artists that.
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  Speaker 1: Really cannot stop watching it.
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  Speaker 3: You can't stop watching it, and you're one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Just tell people how you started, like in the industry,
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  Speaker 3: just you know, how did you get out, Like you
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  Speaker 3: know you grew up in La How did it all happen?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, first off, I want to give a shout
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  Speaker 5: out to my recently, very recently deceee late grandfather's brother.
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  Speaker 5: My I guess he's my granduncle Cliff, who died a
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  Speaker 5: few weeks ago at the extraordinary age of ninety nine.
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  Speaker 5: Oh and uh great guide and he him and his
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  Speaker 5: wife's Gladys, were famous Hollywood studio teachers, like for like
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  Speaker 5: forty years, so they and they lived out in Malibu.
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  Speaker 5: So when me and my sister were kids, my dad
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  Speaker 5: used to take us out there, and Cliff and Gladys
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  Speaker 5: used to be like, oh, yeah, we were teaching Elijah
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  Speaker 5: Wood on set and kids on this and this and this,
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  Speaker 5: and you kids could do it if you want. And
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  Speaker 5: Gladys was super encouraging. And I was like six or seven,
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: and my sister was really into it. So I was like, well,
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: this sounds kind of weird, but it sounds kind of
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  Speaker 5: cool being in a movie and like getting paid and like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: lots pretty cool, you know. I was like, man, I
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: could probably buy a lot of toys with that loop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, no, fully, Fully what age
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  Speaker 2: was this again?
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  Speaker 5: It was probably like six or six or seven we
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: started hearing the stories from Cliff and Gladys, so by
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  Speaker 5: like eight or nine, Like my dad he you know,
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  Speaker 5: he talked to some agent in Hollywood. I think it
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  Speaker 5: was like Julia Roberts's agent at the time. He somehow
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  Speaker 5: got a hold of her and asked her some questions
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  Speaker 5: and she recommended him to like Samuel French bookstore, which
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: is basically like the like oh yeah, out of my face,
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  Speaker 5: random person. It's like, oh yeah, I just go to
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  Speaker 5: Samuel French Bookstore and look up how to Anything.
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  Speaker 3: By the way Sunset Boulevard, Samuel French, I remember. I remember.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the big acting playwrights, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So my dad got this book how to like
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: how to Raise a Rising Star Guide to show biz
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: kids and their parents by this guy David Mattis, who
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: was He's like a manager surfer out in Venice who
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: like basically just like had kids going like commercial auditions
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  Speaker 5: and book little jobs and he would like surf half
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  Speaker 5: today and he was a cool guy. So we met
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: We went and met him and at first, he didn't
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: want it to do with me, like this guy's boofy,
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  Speaker 5: he can't remember any line. My sister was like way
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  Speaker 5: cooler and like went more into it. And then over
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  Speaker 5: the years it was like a thing where I did
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: a couple of summer camps, you know, into panga doing
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  Speaker 5: like Shakespeare, and I associated acting because I went to
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: this will gear. Theatrical botanic of summer camp was like
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  Speaker 5: being outside in nature in the summer and like playing,
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  Speaker 5: so it was like the best intro to acting, you know,
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  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, it was like outside fun with other kids, like,
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  Speaker 5: oh this is this is fun. This is like a
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  Speaker 5: hike with costumes. And then it just I just inched
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  Speaker 5: my way forward, like year after year.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was not like, oh, we got discovered and put
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  Speaker 5: in this lead role in the movie. It was like
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  Speaker 5: I really did like grind it out from like ten
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  Speaker 5: to like fifteen of just doing tiny like bigger and
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: bigger parts like commercials and then little parts on guest stars,
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  Speaker 5: and then slightly bigger parts and then a TV movie
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  Speaker 5: and then you know what I mean. And then finally,
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  Speaker 5: like when I was like fifteen, I got a role
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  Speaker 5: in a movie. It was the first movie that I'd
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: ever done, and then that actually was the lead role
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  Speaker 5: in the movie. Is this movie called The Dangerous Lives
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  Speaker 5: of Ultra Boys with Karen Colkan and genlem Alone and
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  Speaker 5: they're both great and wait.
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  Speaker 2: Was it Jody Foster in that movie too, and.
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  Speaker 5: Jody Yeah, Jody and Jody produced it too.
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  Speaker 2: Just a few little actors you work with, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we had and that was just it
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: was It was cool. So you know, I had a
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: you know, from then, I just kind of kept doing it,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: and it was a thing where I think halfway like
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: in like my late teens, mid teens, like I started
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: really like getting into other older actors, you know, like
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Sean Penn and Marlon Brando and you know Meryl Street
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: Caitlin's like he's just great, yeah, just great actors and
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: like studying them for the first time and really appreciating them.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: I remember my sister's boyfriend when I was like fourteen
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: or fifteen. He was like this shaved head Buddhist monk dude,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: who's cool, but he was like obsessed with Brando When
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: he sat me down and played street car named Desire
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: and was like watch his every move. Here's the genius
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: and I was like what And then I started watching
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: and I was like, wow, you kind of got a point, Alex.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's amazing. I remember the first time I saw
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you step into the scene, which I must have been
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: maybe high school, and you did The Girl next Door. Yeah,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy to me because that movie was very
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: lighthearted and fun. And then you're doing movies with you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, and then you did you know I once
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: upon a time in Hollywood, Like your range is incredible
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: and effortless.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: It's insane, and I want to I want to say
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: something to that effect. I mean, I got to work
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: with one loan survivor and an epic film that I
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: think we both feel is probably a special moment in
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: both of our lives. But I got to tell you
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Into the Wild is, and I'm still a fan girl over.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Into the Wild.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Just tell I know you've done this one hundred times,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: but just give us, like how brutal was the production period?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: How long was it and what were the what was
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: the environment like? Because you know me, you could call
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: me at the four Seasons of the Rets. That's that's
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: about as brutal as.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I can feel.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell me how, like, was it really as
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: ruthless as the film feels when you're watching it?
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: The environment, I mean, I would say, And obviously I
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: haven't been on every movie shoot and actor's ever done,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: but in terms of like the physical and mental pressure,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I honestly don't know if there's ever quite been a
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: role for an actor that would have that, because I
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: remember at the time being like, I like, I don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: even know if I can, Like this is so hard,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: this is like I was like, I don't know, Like
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I think I did it because I was twenty one, right,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: and I was really really like so motivated. I knew
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I had the role of a lifetime. I worshiped Sean Pan.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I still worship Sean.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, He's the greatest.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: He's just a god to me, to the point where
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: it's actually like affected our friendship because I'm just such
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: a sick a fan around them, and you know, he
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: like he hates that, you know what I mean, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: just like I can't help, but I just like I'm
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: normal around most people, and then I get around Sean
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: and I just turn into this fan girl, and I
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: know he's just disgusted, and I can't. I can't, I can't.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I'm dying.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: This is the fun. I mean, what's crazy if people
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: don't know? And I know you're a very private person
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: and so we appreciate you being on here, but like
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: you're around the biggest movie stars in the world, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of them are your friends because you guys
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: just grew up together. So for you to like even
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: have this conversation that you're in awe of Seana is like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: it's just it's crazy to me because I know the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: kinds of actors that you're friends with and and and create.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: So that's that's amazing that you still have that kind
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: of you know thing.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Sean he just he has this fiery
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: heart of integrity and courage and his drive and it
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: just it extends to so many different aspects of his
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: life and everything, all the activity activism he does in
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: the humanitarian work. He's just he's so the man. And
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: making that film, like because I felt the way I
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: did about Sean, it was like I did whatever that
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: was asked, and you know, I wasn't like known or anything,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Like I could not imagine any movie star doing that
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: at all. There's just no like there's there's no way.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Was there ever a moment on that movie where you
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: ever asked yourself like, holy shit, this is really scary,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Like this is a moment I've been here, Like they're
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: really pushing the boundaries, the environment is really fucking with you,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: or you know, did you always just feel like, Okay,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: it's just a tough shoot, Like just curious at twenty one?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have that moment?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, there were there were so many times that
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I felt like that that it was almost like when
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I didn't feel like that, I noticed it. I was like, oh, wow,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like you know, because so much because
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: we didn't there was no stuntman, so the all the
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: hiking and the kind of the wildness it was. It
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: was just the most physical part I've ever done. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: then when you mix that on top with the kind
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: of the isolation of the role and how the pressure
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: as a performer of being so solo in that capacity
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: for such a long period of time also is like
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: a little bit of play. And then when we did
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: the weight loss, Oh.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how many how many pounds did you lose for that?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm sure a lot of our listeners want to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: know how you lost what forty pounds for this role?
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Oh? It was like, yeah, it was like forty two.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: So I basically I started running like a beast early on,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: like a beast because I was actually a little bit
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: out of shape when I got the part, and Sean
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: was like, you should get real fit, even to just
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: be the normal Chrisma canas because mcalleas was fit. So
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I lost a bunch of weight even before we started shooting,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: and then once we were shooting, I just became a runner,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: salad eater. And then when we did the maximum weight
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: loss part, it was like we shut down for like
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: two and a half weeks and I was doing like
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: this tiny, tiny, tiny diet of eating little protein shakes,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: but I was doing two spin classes a day, one
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: in the morning and one in the late afternoon, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: it was like maximum That was definitely the I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: the hardest thing I've ever done, because it was like
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: two months or so where I was like all I
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: could think about was food.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Of course, when you're being deprived of it. Yeah, on
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: top of you know, anyone who does spin classes, even
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: just one, I can't imagine doing two today. That is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: so taxing on your body.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard, and like eating nothing between the classes
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: was like it was just really extreme.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Dude, you're a legend. You're gonna hear legendary.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time losing three pounds, let
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: alone forty two.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: But that's what the the funny part is that I do.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I do too. It's not like I could do that regularly.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: You know, It's like it it takes. It takes like
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: that kind of you know, situation to sort of bring
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: that out of you where you know, it's like you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the you know, the pressures on and you wanted I
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: wanted to do it right, and that role and that
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: story meant so much to me, and I knew I
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: think I really didn't know at the time that the
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: movie was going to be like remembered for a long time,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: because like even now, it's crazy, Like I get messages
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: from people in every country around the world on Instagram
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: and stuff that have seen the movie and they're like
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: obsessed with it, and like every country like it's crazy.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: It's like smash hit in India, It's smash hit in Asia.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: You know, it's smash it in South America. And the people,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: the people that really get into it are like it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: not a normal movie experience for them, you know it
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: like really is it? Like a lot of people feel
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: like it's changed their lives in.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Wow huge way.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I want to say to that it really resonated even
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to this day with me, and I agree with Neil.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: It's just when a movie has that kind of effect
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: on such a mass amount of people, you really did
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: something special. And I know that's what we all dream
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and that's why we make movies. And that movie checked
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: every box. In my opinion, it's just every box on
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: every level.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It just was. It's just there's nothing that you know.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You could criticize so many movies for so many different
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: reasons we all do. There are a few movies that
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you cannot and that's one of them.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So I'll give you mad thanks.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Ugh. Yeah, it's a we're.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Gonna We're gonna go to a quick break and when
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: we come back, I want to talk about Once upon
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: a Time of Hollywood, another epic role in movie. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: obviously I know you have this awesome blossoming music career
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and I want to hit on that to move back.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: In a minute, we are back with a meal, hirsh
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like my Jaws on the floor because
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: everything that you've done with your career, and you so
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: deserve it, because I feel like anybody who cares about
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: their craft as much as you do and just bringing
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a story to life and making people that are watching
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: want to feel something is truly incredible. You don't find
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that very often in actors. You know, it's just something
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: where they show up, they do their job. But the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: way he was, the way a Mill was talking about
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: into the Wild, I was like, every like magical.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: So on that note, Lala and I obviously were lucky
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: enough to have gotten to go through the awards circuit
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and we saw you everywhere during during and you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it's funny because we could plane and now we're in
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: this pandemic lockdown and it's like, I I could.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Have that moment again.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: But you know, congratulations and you were side by side,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: and you guys want a plethora of awards and once
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: upon a time in Hollywood, tell us just that experience
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: working with the great Quentin Tarantino and the cast, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, Leo's one of your Leo DiCaprio
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: is one of your close friends, and all these guys
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you work with, I know, you know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Just what's the takeaway? How epic was it?
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Well? It originated where I got a message on Facebook
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: a friend request from a little from a doll. It
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: was like a doll emoji or something that said Quentin Tarantino,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: and I was like what I was like, is this
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: like some weird catfish or something? So I click, I
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: like clicked onto like mutual friends, and I was like, wow,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: well he turns with that person. That person's like not
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: like that. That person's kind of legit. So I like
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: accepted the friend request and then I got this message
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: like hey me, what's up? And I was like, uh,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: is this you? And he's like yeah, I'm like working
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: on a project. Might have like a part that you
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: might be right for. And I was like, oh my god.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: If this is some like Sri Lankan teenager in a
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: basement right now, I'm going to be so annoyed. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, no, this is me? Is this
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: you like this? This would really be cool if this
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: is you. And he's like it's me and I was
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: like okay, and he's like I'll keep you updated. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: like months went by and I wouldn't hear from this
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Facebook account and every now, and I'd be like, oh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm still kind of progressing and this and this,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: but I still didn't know if it was real. Oh
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: and I was so I was so excited. And originally,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: like I asked my agent, I was like this, this
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: guy claiming to be Quentin Tarantino sent me a message
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: that he might be in his movie. And my agent
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: was kind of like, sounds a little you know, yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: like you know, like you might be a little hopeful kid.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: But it turned out to really be a real thing.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: And it was like almost a year later that the
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: movie even into production. Like he really hit me up early,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: and he had seen this movie, I did The Autopsy
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: of Jane Doe. He'd watched it with Eli Ross and
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: they just loved this movie. And he just he saw
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: me as this character j C. Bring, who was this
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: amazing hairstylence of the Error era, and he just was like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: he's the guy, and Quinn is He's really He's just
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: a great He's a great guy. He's got a huge heart.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: He's just got this turbine engine of a mind that
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: just never stops. And I really, you know, he was
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: he was such a cool gentleman throughout the process, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: I have obviously I was so in awe of him
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: for such a long time and the chance to get
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: to work alongside him and Margo and Leo, and it
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: was just it really felt like for me at the time,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: it was like if you get to do a Queen Tuarantine,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: that like that's the excite the most exciting director and
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: actor could want to work with, you know. It's just
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: that that excitement that zing, and it was it was amazing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: It was it was really amazing. And it's funny because
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: my biggest flaw for the people that I really admire
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: is like, it's just I get starstruck by people. It's
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: hard for me to like relax, you know, interesting to
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: hear that well when Tarantino says action, it's like, it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: just it's so hard for me to like be chill.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh my god.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like a moment that you know is
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: going to be in history, because it's just everything Quentin Tarantino,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: like Martin Scorsese, they make films that stand for generations.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So you probably know subconsciously deep inside, like you are
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: putting your mark in history.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like the feeling of you know, Quentin Tarantino
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: yelling action on you would feel like you just got
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: pushed out of an airplane like that, Like the amount
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of anxiety I would feel because he's the greatest and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like like you're saying a meal, it's like you've been
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a fan of his work for such a long time
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and he's so incredible that you do. I would totally
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: be starstruck too, And I don't really care about anybody.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I know that both of you can relate.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Like when I call action on my set a meal,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You just have a like total like rush of adrenaline.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: But in a way too, Like Randal, like when we
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: work together, I feel like because we were friends before,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: it's so it's just there's a familiarity there. And I
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: really understand why actors work with directors over and over again,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: because you know, the familiarity is great. You know, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: movie that I shot right before we started shooting our
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: film was this movie Some that I did with this
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Irish director, Ivan Kavanaugh, and it was the second film.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: It was the first time I worked with a director twice,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and it was like really kind of different experience of
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: making a movie. And I realized then for actors, just
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: how much of a psychological effect the director has on
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: all the actors. It is massive. It changes the experience.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I want to add to that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to tell you something, Meil, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't tell you that before because we were just
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: so caught up in the movie, in the moment and creating.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: But I told my partner George, I said, you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I thank god you came to the table first, because
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you're right, even though it was my first movie directing
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: and we had done many movies before this as a
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: producer actor relationship, you made me feel very comfortable and
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I almost you know, I used you as a sounding board,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you know. I came to you many times and the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: prepar you know, the pre process, and i'd get your
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: opinion and your advice because you are my friend and
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I do trust you and I respect your work. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: when we got on set, I was probably the most
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: comfortable with you because I know you and I knew
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: that I could do things with you. And you know
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: what I mean, because I just have that relationship and
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. It makes sense to me now
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: why directors and actors stick together when they have a
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: good creative relationship because it is familiarity and it opens
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: up the creative process even more so.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I absolutely even the first day we were shooting on
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: midnight in the Switchcraft so our film, I was like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I felt so relaxed, and I was like, oh man,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It was great, you know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: And whenever I feel like that, it just the best
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: always comes out of me. It's just that's just the
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: way it is. That's what Robert de Niro even said
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: that in an interview. He was like, the most important
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: thing for actors is to be just relaxed. You know.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I agree with you, and I'll tell you something I have.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I was the most relaxed day one. I probably would
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: have been like an insane asylum patient, but because you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I had you there on day one, it was the
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: same for me. I literally was like, dude, I got this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: This is my friend of mine and he's here to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: create and I trust him and he's going to just
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: bring it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And this actor director romance that you guys have it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: really sweet. I really love that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Wait one last thing before because I want to talk
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: about the music. I gotta tell a story. People don't
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: realize that Carnies, Emil and I. It's our favorite hamburger place.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: There's one on Sunset, one on Ventura. How many movies
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: have come out of that? When we've run into each
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: other at Carney's. I mean it's pretty epic.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I mean it's amazing. I ran into Randall. I was
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: eating a burger alone at Carney's and I ran into Rentald.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I was like, what's up, dude, what are you doing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: He's like, what's going on? Well, I just did this
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: movie with Quinn blah blah blah. And he's like, oh,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I'm making this movie with mel Gibson right now. And
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that sounds amazing. And then you
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: were like it was like a light bulb went off.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, I'm gonna call your agent about it tomorrow.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I was like, sounds good to me, this sounds amazing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: This it is all so Hollywood. Can I tell you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: this is like the shit I would imagine when I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: lived in Utah, Like, I bet that's how it goes down.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I swear to you. I was eating I was by myself.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: By the way, I was by myself too, or maybe
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I was assistant. I can't remember, but I literally Meil
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: said he just finished. I was like, oh my god,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: we don't have a lead for this movie a Meal,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: and a Meal was like, dude, send it to me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I called this agent. I think it was like three
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: or four days later, a meal we were doing the deal.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: It was pretty epic.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so quick. I was like, man, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: was the best burger I've ever had. I love Carnie before,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: but now I love Carnie. And and by the way,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: like I love that movie. I watched it recently a
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: couple of times. Sports of Nature Michael Polish's movie, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: the part it's just it's it's such an entertaining role
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: is like mel is vintage mel It's like the part
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: you want to see mel in, like the leap a
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: weapon guy, like thirty five years later.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: By the way, we're having actually Michael and Kate Bosworth
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: on the Week after You, So that's so that's perfect segment.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, okay, Meil, I have the movie. I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: have seen that movie, and it's fun. I have to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: ask you about your new music. I'm a music head.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Tell me everything, Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: How did this start? And everything? Tell us?
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Well, the music originally started. I did this movie with JK.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Simmons called All Nighter, and I played a bluegrass singer
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: and they gave me like a real band to work
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: with for a few songs. I had to sing in
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the movie, and my buddy was I played a cover
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: song we did my brother. My buddy was like, that's cool.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: He's like, why don't you record some originals. So I
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: started sitting down and I started like writing out melodies
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: and lyrics, and then I took them to the band
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: and they were like, these are cool. So we ended
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: up literally recording an entire bluegrass album in the genre
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: of the band player that I did. So it was
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: like some weird, like messed actor experiment where it's like
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I made the album of the character's band and we
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: like released it. It's called the album was called Simple Things.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: It's actually out by our band name in the movie
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: was Hysterical Kindness, and we kept that. Oh and I really,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the process of songwriting so much that
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I kept writing songs after the movie. And this was
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: five This was five years ago now, so I've been
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: songwriting for the last five years, and I've been working
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: with like different producers, and I moved on from the
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: guys that did hystorical kindness because they were kind of
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: getting into some other stuff and I worked with these
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: other kind of rock producers and different and then I
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: finally found this French guy and the Frenchman Matchiu Carratier, Okay,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: and he he was He's like this French Urson Weld
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: kind of dude who's like so talented and kind of
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: very like just like a dark, like gutey voice, very
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: serious kind of guy. And he was. We had a
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: mutual friend and we made one song together and I
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: was like, this is kind of like a this is
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: an interesting sound. And we made a few songs and
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: then we finally kind of hit the vein of almost
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: like kind of like the Weekend song Blinding Lights, where
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: it's got a little like retro eighties, but it's like
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: it feels fresh and new, almost like it could be
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: on The Drive soundtrack or something, and we just we
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: just really we just really pushed in that direction, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: we worked NonStop pretty much for like almost a year,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: and we made this album called Mnemonic, somewhat based off
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: the Johnny Knaemonic movie, which I thought, I just love
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: that word mnemonic and it's like device and I.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, no, it's really good. And whereable where
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: can we download your music because I'm about to do
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that as soon as we Yeah, I'm like.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Well, you can get it. It's basically you can get
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: it on any music platform. It's under hersh and it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: like Spotify or Apple Music or Google Player title or
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Deezer or any any one of those places. Even YouTube.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: You can hear the songs. And we've made we put
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: out now twenty two songs. We just put this song
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: out last week called Favors, which is actually probably it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: kind of considered by like the music people in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: radio world to be our best most commercial song or whatnot.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: And it's you know what's crazy. I sent it to
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: this buddy of mine, this guy Steven Servanka, and he
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: called me back and he's in the music business and
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: he's like, dude, this is like it's pretty radio where
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: he's like, I'm going to send this to my contact
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: at Deezer Wow. And he sent it to his buddy
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: at Deezer and the guy pitched it to Deezer and
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Deezer is like Spotify, but they're huge and like Latin
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: America and Yeah, France, and they put us number three
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: on their biggest playlist, which is the selection on for
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Mexico and Central America. It's got six point seven million
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: followers of the playlist and they put his number three, dude,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: after Fiona Apple and this amazing artist.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: God.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, it's crazy.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Dude, We're on not only with a movie start now
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: we have a rock star, music star.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: This is we're gonna download this.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: You you just start like, how long have you been
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: doing music? Like you said, you have twenty two songs
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that you that you guys have done. When did you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: do your first song?
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: The first song was the first album for uh that
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: was five years ago for the Okay movie. So we
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: recorded a whole bluegrass album. I really cut my teeth
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: on the process of songwriting and everything like that and
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: learning about it, and then I made a bunch of
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: songs with other producers in between over the years. And
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: then like a year and a half ago, me and
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Matthew started working together and then we just kind of
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: really partnered up and made this our main jam and
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: we've been we've been making songs during quarantine. I'll like
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: send them my ideas and we'll get together and we
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: even like recorded like socially distanced, where like I bought
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: them like a forty foot microphone ports like in the
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: other wing of I'm in the other wing of the house,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Yeah, so we're we're still
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: going for it. And like, for me, it's just something
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: that I love doing, and I you know, I love
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: music and it's not it's not like about like it's
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: definitely not about money because in order to make money
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: in the music business, Like I looked at the money
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: that we made, it was like, uve me five.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Hundred dollars exactly.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Like it's that it's a really tough business to like
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: make money. But for me, I just love music. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: there's a longevity to it too, Like you can go
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: back and listen to songs. Someone, I still listen to
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: so many old songs like forty years ago, fifty years ago.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Oh that's what I live off of. I live off
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of all of these old school songs. And I also
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: make music. And for me, you know, I've done the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: same thing that you've done where I look at it
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I mean three hundred bucks this
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: month off that song and it's like you don't do
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: it for the money. It's so therapeutic and just fun
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Will you ever go on tour meal?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Oh? I like that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: I would in a heartbeat for sure.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That's dough, that's really cool.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would in a heartbeat for sure. I mean,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: we have twenty two songs. If we get like another,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many, but I really want to
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: get enough to where like if we have like a
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: live performance like lineup of songs, you know, They's just
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: the thing I don't like is when there's like one
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: song everybody wants to hear, and then the rest people
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: don't know or they don't care about like I would.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I would really want something that like everybody dug and right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: You know, there's such a there's such a stigma around
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: actors that do music right. It's honestly one of people's
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: like most relish stigmas, Like they really it's like, oh actor.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Music, Well, well, musicians, as you know, historically want to
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: act and actors want to do music. But I will
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: tell you it's so weird to have a sting. But
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: because actors are artists and artists do everything, so I
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: think like when actors do music.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: It's pretty odd you grow up in the arts art.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly agree with that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: I do think though that, you know, it did take me,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: you know, a good five years of songwriting before we
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: started making songs that like we're getting on these types
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: of playlists that we're on on Spotify and Deezer in
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: all these places. So it wasn't It wasn't. It's definitely
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: not something that was like if you try to jump
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: into it and like make an album in a month
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: and do it for the first time, like I could
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: see how that could go real south, real quick, you know.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: But I think I think because we had so much
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: time to like keep learning and listening to more music
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: and like kind of adjusting and finessing, it was I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: five years is like kind of a like I look background,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I'm like, god.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's a long time.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a long time, you know what I mean?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you you made something that is amazing because
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I know exactly those people you're talking about that push
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: an album out in a month and you're like, you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the first song you can tell how much they worked
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: on it, and then the rest of the songs are
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: like what you were talking about like they kind of
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it goes south.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I gotta say, first of all, we're running
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: out of timeer, but I gotta say something, mail anything.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: To download every song.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I know you by the.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Way, a mail, she'll she'll know all your songs by
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: the next time we see you. But I just got
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to say, I just got to say, I can't thank
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: you enough for being on our show and doing this
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: for us, and doing it under the situation that we're
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: all living in. You're an amazing artist, amazing performer. Your
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: music everybody should download it and check it out. And
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: h is there anything you want to say before we
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: say lovey or goodbye or all whatever you say.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for thank you so much for
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: having me on. And I know it's a difficult time
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: for everybody right now, so I just want to give
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: shouts out to everyone and all the all everybody, everybody
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: keeping the world running right now. You know, I went
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: to the grocery store the other day and I was like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: thanking the people bagging the groceries. I was like, dude,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: you got you guys are the heroes right now, you
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I just respect to everybody
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: that is keeping the world running right now, like they
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: really are the heroes. And just thanks for thanks for
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: having me on. Man. I I really I really appreciated
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: our relationship from the very beginning and it's a lot
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: of fun. And you guys are special people, so I
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: was super happy to come on and and you know,
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: there's nothing funner, more fun than like, uh, there's nothing
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: more fun than like a musician peddling their music. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: I do relish the opportunity to emil.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's an honor. Thank you all right, buddy, we'll
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: talk to you soon.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Thanks Hurst you guys have a great day.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I love when our guests leave me super inspired, like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I need to go out and work a lot harder.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Now. Did he motivate you on Monday?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he motivated me on Monday. Okay, so that was amazing.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: You guys, I want to thank you so much for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: listening to give them la la with Randall. We love
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you guys. We hope you stay safe and healthy and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: slay the day babies. We'll see you next week.