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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-12 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: the game off. Oh, good morning, and welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: radio program known as Chuck and Buck in the Mornings.
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  Speaker 1: It is Chuck Powell. It is not Bucky Jacobson. He
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  Speaker 1: is still out Oh there is there is. I guess
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  Speaker 1: he did show up. Ashley Ryan is here as well,
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  Speaker 1: and we welcome you to this radio program. Four hours
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  Speaker 1: of radio coming your way today as we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to discuss today. There is a very packed show
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  Speaker 1: coming your way today here on this Tuesday morning. And
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  Speaker 1: I want to just start just asking just a quick
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  Speaker 1: little question, just a little quick survey of one person
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  Speaker 1: here this morning. Well, what is it that these social
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  Speaker 1: media people get out of just printing fake story sports stories.
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  Speaker 5: Is there something they have no life and that's entertaining
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  Speaker 5: to them?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, did they get something out of it? Like
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  Speaker 1: I think they do trick a lot of people. Like
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, some guy just keeps doing AI Lebron
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  Speaker 1: postgame shows, postgame comments, and then he's posting it as
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  Speaker 1: fact and clearly deliberately to just try to trick people
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  Speaker 1: into thinking it and get some rise out of human beings.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is that some people see that and
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  Speaker 1: they just kind of brush by it, and then they
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  Speaker 1: take that with them and then they think that that's true. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then they start spreading it and that either leads
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  Speaker 1: to them looking like a fool at some point in
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  Speaker 1: the very near future. But you're not even there. You
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  Speaker 1: don't even get to be there to see them look
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  Speaker 1: like a fool. So I mean, maybe you've got some
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  Speaker 1: sort of like joker mentality where you just want to
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  Speaker 1: see the world burn, but you're not even there to
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  Speaker 1: witness it. You're just posting something and then you're just
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  Speaker 1: snickering in the corner that I can't even imagine the
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  Speaker 1: look on that stranger's face, that I can't even see
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  Speaker 1: in my own mind's eye when he spreads this as gospel, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: is he going to look like a fool.
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  Speaker 5: That's basically it.
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  Speaker 6: I think it is the idea of I'm gonna do this,
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  Speaker 6: and so many people are gonna believe me, and they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna look like idiots and get all riled up, and
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  Speaker 6: I win. Whereas in reality, did you win when you're
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  Speaker 6: spending all this time doing fake crap?
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  Speaker 5: I hear I say, You're more likely on the losing
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  Speaker 5: side of that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they are getting looks. I mean, I'll see
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  Speaker 1: some if I see like, somebody will put like a trade,
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  Speaker 1: like a fake trade. It doesn't exist, but they'll put
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  Speaker 1: like and I'll I'm gonna stop every single time that
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  Speaker 1: I see a professional.
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  Speaker 5: Look make sure it's yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Professional looking post that suggests a trade or a firing
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  Speaker 1: or something. And I'm like, well, that's not that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense at all. And it takes you like three
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  Speaker 1: seconds to realize. I mean, I couldn't recognize it by
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  Speaker 1: the account name, but I will at least recognize that
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  Speaker 1: there's no way that that's true, and then I'll move on.
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  Speaker 1: But they got me to freeze, right. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: certainly didn't like it. I certainly didn't rep post it.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess they're the number of people that they
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  Speaker 1: did trick into liking or reposting. Somehow does something for you.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's what they the joy they get out
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  Speaker 6: of okay posts.
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  Speaker 5: Likes and then yeah, yeah, yeah, I do feel like
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  Speaker 5: you're probably right because.
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  Speaker 6: And it's also then they laugh probably for every angry
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  Speaker 6: comment of somebody who doesn't believe.
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  Speaker 5: But I will say there's a guy that I.
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  Speaker 6: Follow, and all he does is post satire, and people
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  Speaker 6: still his account's been out for five years or more,
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  Speaker 6: and people still will get so angry when he posts things,
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  Speaker 6: and and everybody else is in on the joke.
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  Speaker 5: So they're all like, oh gosh, how long until they
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  Speaker 5: figure it out?
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  Speaker 6: Because the guy says like he's the sports reporter for
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  Speaker 6: the National Inquirer and all I mean, like you read
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  Speaker 6: his profile. If you actually look at his profile, you
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  Speaker 6: know it's a completely satirical account.
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  Speaker 5: And the guy just has fun posting things up there
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  Speaker 5: and like the onion, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Similar, and so but people get he got Bucky like
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  Speaker 6: four months ago or five months ago, and Bucky was
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  Speaker 6: angry on X and then I was like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 6: I don't I want to tell him it's not real.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't want to tell him it's not real
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  Speaker 6: because I don't want to, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean Bucky's not very bright. Wow, that's all three. I'm
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  Speaker 2: on hands in on.
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  Speaker 5: That Okay, game one two three idiot?
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, Uh, it just it seems like, see,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think you need I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: people won't like this, but on social media, that's why
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  Speaker 1: you need borders. That's why you just need to charge
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  Speaker 1: people to use it, like five dollars a month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And people are like.
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  Speaker 1: Is it really worth it for my goofy little jokes
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  Speaker 1: that nobody else likes but me to put out fake trades?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna do it anymore. Then you'll filter
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  Speaker 1: some of that out. But anyway, it's uh, it's a bizarre,
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  Speaker 1: bizarre process. Yeah, and it's a bizarre people that continuously
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  Speaker 1: We start today's show, though with the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: schedule release week is here, and on Thursday we will
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  Speaker 1: know the entire National Football League schedule and we'll react accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: But this is schedule release leak week, and it is
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to say, and I just
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  Speaker 1: heard an interview with him this morning, so I think
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  Speaker 1: I got evidence to support this statement. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is Adam Schefter's favorite time of the year because I
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  Speaker 1: think he has the entire schedule. I think it's already
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  Speaker 1: been given to him, and then he is just given
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  Speaker 1: like a permission on what he can leak every so often,
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  Speaker 1: and so in order to keep his inside connections, he
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  Speaker 1: can't leak more than he already leaks. Okay, but he'll
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  Speaker 1: get like a leak button that says, okay, you can
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  Speaker 1: leak this, and then it highlights it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I can leak that.
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  Speaker 1: He just said this morning in a conversation that he
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  Speaker 1: thinks this should start in March. Every day he should
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  Speaker 1: or someone should be able that has access to it
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  Speaker 1: leak one game a day like to so until we
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  Speaker 1: run out of games to leak all the way up
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  Speaker 1: to actual NFL schedule release week. I mean, you are sick, man.
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  Speaker 5: And also I would be so over it by week two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 6: We don't need the NFL does not need to find
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  Speaker 6: a way to draw more attention to itself. In March,
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  Speaker 6: everyone's already talking about the NFL Draft. Some people are
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  Speaker 6: preparing to celebrate the entire month of a holiday.
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  Speaker 2: Most people are sick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of people are still talking about the
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  Speaker 6: super Bowl and the season prior. You've got free agents.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you've got a lot of things going on
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  Speaker 6: in the NFL. You don't need to add in, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: we should torture people with schedule leaks so we can
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  Speaker 6: all feel a little bit more important every week.
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  Speaker 1: They're even they're already guilty of. I mean, they knowingly,
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  Speaker 1: willingly strategically spread their off season events out so that
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  Speaker 1: they can steal the thunder of every other sport out there,
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  Speaker 1: every other league out there. So they already do that,
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  Speaker 1: And now you have somebody who is way too big
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  Speaker 1: a part of my life let's face it, in Adam Schefter,
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  Speaker 1: I just you know you are sending me. I would
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  Speaker 1: not allow my mom to send me texts and tweets
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  Speaker 1: at midnight, Okay, there would be a talking to with her.
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  Speaker 1: And yet I get Adam Schefter's reports because I need
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  Speaker 1: somebody to update me so I don't miss something. But
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  Speaker 1: then I have to put up with all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I want to miss just so I don't
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  Speaker 1: miss anything. So you're already invading all of our lives
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  Speaker 1: far too much. And for him to suggest no, my
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  Speaker 1: problem is I don't get to invade your lives enough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have enough insider information for him to have
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  Speaker 1: that approach shows you how sick a person that he is,
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, and so I admit, I mean as somebody
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  Speaker 1: that takes the ball and runs with it during the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft, I don't know if I have a real
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  Speaker 1: firm ground to stand on well, but I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: really do kind of roll my eyes at this whole
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  Speaker 1: NFL schedule. I guess the same that people roll their
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  Speaker 1: eyes at me during draft miss but the NFL schedule
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  Speaker 1: is just I feel just so overreacted to it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've.
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  Speaker 1: Outlined all the little nitty gritty parts of the draft
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  Speaker 1: and why I think it's so meaningful. And yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: a tongue in cheek joke that we do throughout the
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  Speaker 1: course of the month, but nonetheless there is an appetite
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  Speaker 1: for it. So I will at least recognize there's an
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  Speaker 1: appetite for all these little schedule nuggets that get leaked out.
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  Speaker 2: But it just is strange, how.
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  Speaker 1: For me, as father draft misses like this, do we
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  Speaker 1: have to stretch this out even further? And now you're
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  Speaker 1: telling me you'd like to stretch it out so we
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  Speaker 1: do this every day?
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  Speaker 2: No, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: No, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, honestly, And
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  Speaker 6: Adam Schefter or you know he already he already drives
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  Speaker 6: me crazy anyway. But I just the last thing I
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  Speaker 6: think that we need is yet to make it a
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  Speaker 6: bigger deal. When the college schedules come out one day,
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  Speaker 6: here's the college schedule. Look, we made this pretty graphic
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  Speaker 6: and here's all your games.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's ectat.
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  Speaker 6: I would like it if when the NFL says our
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  Speaker 6: schedule is gonna come out on Thursday at four thirty,
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  Speaker 6: then on Thursday at four thirty. Every team has their
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  Speaker 6: little graphic and look, here's our schedule. I don't even
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  Speaker 6: need the leaks because I don't need the leaks. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not sitting there anticipating the schedule so much that I need.
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  Speaker 6: I need to get little tidbits leading up to Thursday,
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  Speaker 6: Like I can't wait for just more information on the
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  Speaker 6: NFL and when they're gonna play their games four months
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  Speaker 6: from now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFL wants to dominate our every thought, everything,
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  Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter apparently has not gotten enough attention over
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  Speaker 1: the years.
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  Speaker 6: It's I mean, even to the point of having a
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  Speaker 6: Wednesday game for the Seahawks, Like, that's annoying to me.
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  Speaker 6: You have the Super Bowl champions now opening the season
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  Speaker 6: on a Wednesday because you decided we should put first
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  Speaker 6: off a division game on a in Australia on a
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  Speaker 6: Thursday to start the season.
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  Speaker 5: If I was Rams and forty nine Ers fans, I'd
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  Speaker 5: be pissed about that too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I think we've got enough leakage.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley says, we have too much leakage as it already stands.
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  Speaker 1: But I do have to share a leak with you
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Gosh o God, and I was sitting there
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  Speaker 1: doing my show prep and my phone lights up at
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  Speaker 1: like four point fifteen in the morning, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh gosh, Schefters early today, I know it was about
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  Speaker 1: lebron and it was recapping the night before, But about
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  Speaker 1: nine minutes later, I do get the first tweet of
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  Speaker 1: the morning and the first leak of the day. And
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  Speaker 1: so your first leak of the day, at your first
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  Speaker 1: leak of the day. Adam Schefter reported this morning that
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  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs will play
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  Speaker 1: the first Monday night football game this season. Now they
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  Speaker 1: don't know where apparently yet, or he doesn't know where,
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  Speaker 1: or he's not allowed to tell us where yet, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why, but it will be Denver versus Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City the first Monday Night football. Now, there's usually two
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  Speaker 1: month night football game, so it's probably the first of two,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe it's the second if it's at Denver, but
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night football, first Monday Night football.
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  Speaker 2: Day of the year.
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  Speaker 1: It will be a Division matchup between the Broncos and
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. And we don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is gonna be healthy enough to play in
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  Speaker 1: that game, and yet they're still going to put the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs in some primetime in a primetime slot to start
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  Speaker 1: the year. So how does this impact the Seahawks. Well,
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  Speaker 1: as we are trying to figure out, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why we're trying so hard to figure this out.
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  Speaker 6: Because we can't wait till Thursday, Jack, we.
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  Speaker 2: Can just wait till Thursday. I'm not going to change anything.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a.
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  Speaker 1: Huge topic yesterday online trying to put the pieces together
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  Speaker 1: to figure out who the Seahawks will open the season
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  Speaker 1: with in defense of their world title. So we knew
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and we covered this yesterday morning. That's with the
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  Speaker 1: announcement that the Cowboys and Giants we're going to play
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  Speaker 1: the first Sunday night game, took away two of the
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  Speaker 1: potential season opener opponents because we know for those that
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  Speaker 1: don't know, we knew at the end of the regular
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  Speaker 1: season who all the Seahawks opponents were going to be
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  Speaker 1: this year, and we have known for that long whether
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  Speaker 1: or not they're going to play those opponents.
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  Speaker 2: At home or on the road.
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  Speaker 1: So the Cowboys and Giants are on our list, and
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  Speaker 1: we know that the Seahawks will not just open the season,
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  Speaker 1: they will open at home. That always happens with the
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  Speaker 1: world champion. Anybody were not realized we were world gym
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  Speaker 1: who won the world championship?
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  Speaker 2: It was the Seahawks, Yeah, the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Cowboys Giants were on our list of nine
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  Speaker 1: home opponents this year, So we know that those two
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  Speaker 1: teams will not be in Seattle on Wednesday opening night.
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  Speaker 1: We also know the Rams and forty nine ers will
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  Speaker 1: not be because a lot not all of it yet,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of the International Games schedule has been
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  Speaker 1: leaked to this point. We already know the Rams and
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers are going to be in Australia on
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  Speaker 1: that Thursday, So we know the Rams and forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers are off. So that takes four teams off the list.
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  Speaker 1: And now we know the Kansas City Chiefs are playing
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  Speaker 1: Monday night of opening weeks, so that takes them off
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  Speaker 1: of the list. So that leaves us with Patriots, Bears, Chargers,
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  Speaker 1: and Cardinals. As we covered yesterday, don't imagine that the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: considering they're in a bit of a rebuild state, are
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  Speaker 1: the kind of team that the NFL is going to
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  Speaker 1: want to put on its opening night.
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  Speaker 5: Not gonna get a lot of hype for that one.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to eliminate the Cardinals. I can't imagine, even
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  Speaker 1: though maybe they would under other circumstances, put the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: and the Seahawks in a Super Bowl rematch to start
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  Speaker 1: the season. But with all this verable Russini stuff, not
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  Speaker 1: only can I not imagine that they would do that,
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  Speaker 1: Please don't do it. I do not want to spend
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  Speaker 1: my Opening night getting excited about the football season, getting
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  Speaker 1: excited about seeing the Seahawks play for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: and then have to deal with an hour and a
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  Speaker 1: half of the two and a half hour pregame being
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  Speaker 1: about some reporter who can't stop sleeping with coaches.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the last thing I want to hear about
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  Speaker 6: on Opening night, right my team's football season.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't imagine that the NFL would want as
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  Speaker 1: they're presenting its pretty little season for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine they would wrap it with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: porn bow.
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  Speaker 5: I would hope not, God, I really would hope not put.
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  Speaker 2: Some porn wrapping around there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, we got a new Hey it's a president.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL seasons here, What is this strange rapping? Is
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  Speaker 1: that Wieners and boobs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we open every season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why is there a dilbo on it that has inappropriate?
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  Speaker 1: So that leaves as far as we could tell from yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and I think most people were agreeing on social media
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  Speaker 1: yesterday Chargers or Bears, and I just think Bears make
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  Speaker 1: a little more sense. Charges makes a lot of sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. That's a good team. They got a big
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  Speaker 1: time quarterback, they've got a big time head coach that
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  Speaker 1: we know really well. But the Bears is that's just
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  Speaker 1: a sexier brand and they're.
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  Speaker 5: Especially right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they seem to be getting back near
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  Speaker 1: the top. I'm not sure they'll ever get back to
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  Speaker 1: the top, but they're getting back near the top with
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  Speaker 1: the last year, yeah, with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 1: So we circled the Bears yesterday as the very very
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  Speaker 1: likely team that they'll play. But you can eliminate the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs in a rematch with Ken Walker. As of this morning,
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  Speaker 1: that is now off the table.
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  Speaker 4: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: There's the latest for people that couldn't wait to eliminate
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  Speaker 1: another team from the possibility facing the Seahawks on Opening Night.
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  Speaker 6: I feel better because I did sit there in my
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: bed last night, thinking well, I really should be going
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: to sleep, But I get the argument for the Bears.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Could the NFL be super sneaky.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: Maybe they really do believe in Patrick mahomes recovery. And yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: and so now I know tonight I can sleep.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. You'll get a good rest tonight.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Thank goodness.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on TEP for the
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: rest of today's show.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: What's on tech?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: What's on tech?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: NFL schedule release a week. They'll continue to leak things out,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Yeah, Adam Schefter has on his
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: depends here this morning because he's gonna leak whenever the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: league allows him to leak.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: So we'll update you whenever we get one, and of
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: course put it against how it affects the Seattle Seahawks.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It's also PGA Championship week, so that is something already
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: underway for us. Every major golf challenge we have the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: major Golf tournament. We have a major Golf Challenge which
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: is available to you at ninety three to three kh
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• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You've got a chance to win some prizes from PNW
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Golf Academy and also gamble Sands. Of course, it's also
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: preating this week. I didn't realize Eddie Olchek was so
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: fired up about the Ponies Bucks he spent like seven
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: minutes of our fifteen minute conversation yesterday telling us about
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the Ponies. So preating this week is this week the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby winner Golden Tempo will not run in the race,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: which makes it about ninety two percent less interesting. NBA
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: playoffs also are kind of in that stage of not
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: being so interesting right now. We've already seen the Knicks
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: knock out the seventy six ers and No Time flat,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and then last night OKC did the same thing to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: the Lakers. Lakers led for most of the second half,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: but the Thunder ended up winning in the end, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it knocks the Lakers out of the playoffs, not that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we gave them much of a chance. Luka Doncic ends
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: up not even suiting up in the playoffs for the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Lakers this year. So OKAC moves on to the next round,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: which is the Western Conference Final, and they have not
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: been touched yet. They are eight and oh, a perfect
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: eight to no so far in the playoffs. Meanwhile, was
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it Lebron James final game of his illustrious NBA career.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Could be, but kind of feels like most people are
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: doubting that. Lebron was sort of vague last night in
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: his postgame remarks about where he's going to go with
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: his next step. But it kind of feels like he
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't look tired, and he just kind of and I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: think he still thinks he's one of the best.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Well, and he didn't really get his full farewell tour
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: right because he hadn't announced he was retiring after the season,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: and I feel like he wants that full farewell tour.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I think you're probably right about that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Also, yesterday, Jannis ante Kotumpo rumors have really started to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: ramp up. It looks like the Milwaukee Bucks are definitely
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of a mind to trade him. I don't know why
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they didn't do it at the deadline, but I mean,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they could have gotten one of these draft picks in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the lottery. I'm telling you, this is why fans think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that they can question general managers because they're stupid.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are really stupid.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: There.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like they have ever like they have
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: any clue what they're doing, at least to me.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes will join us at eight o'clock. We got
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: all sorts of things to discuss with Spencer, our NBA
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Playoffs insider, that's what he's turned into on our radio program.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk to him about Wimby's elbow. He did
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: not get suspended, so he will play in tonight's matchup
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: between the Spurs and Timberwolves.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Game five.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: That series actually interested interesting, it's even at two games apiece.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Also Cleveland, they squared up their series with Detroit last
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: night as Donovan Mitchell scored thirty nine of his forty
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: three points in the second half last night. But the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: big controversy is the disparity and free throws that were
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: shot last night, as the Detroit Pistons are not happy
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: about the officiating right now. Stanley Cup Playoffs, Colorado's moved
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: up three games to one on the Minnesota Wild with
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a five to two victory last night. Tonight you got
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Buffalo at Montreal with the Canadians up to one, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Anaheim at Vegas. That series is even at two. Finally,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Mariners do win last night. We're not blowing it off.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it a lot today, just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: didn't lead with it. Mariner's three to one winners over
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros, and so we'll recap it for you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: with Mariners Morning After, which is coming up next tonight.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Brian woo versus tatsua Emi, who comes off the injury
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: list for the Houston Astros. We put him on the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: injury list if yeah, we played him, Yeah, he did
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: not make it very long into that game or into
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: his first season as a major leaguer. First pitch tonight
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: is at five ten. We will have Ryan Healy on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to talk about cal Rawley's continuing struggles. At nine o'clock,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: we'll also have Cooper Qriswell on to talk about him
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: filling a really big role with three now three of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: our top five relievers on the shelf for various reasons.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He'll join us at nine thirty. But hey is next
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Mariners Morning After Here on this Tuesday, Chuck and Ashley
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: with you Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to ask menah, oh, you'll trying to finish it off,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He's too too. He let's drake atend the game, have
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a Mariners take Game one and race Munhill strikes out
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: your non albaaz to finish it off tonight.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, the very aggressive andres Munio is using that fastball
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: more than we've ever seen him use it in an outing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: You throw one hundred, you should be able to do that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Seven o'clock hour, hour number two of the Chucking Buck
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Tuesday radio program right here on Sports Radio ninety three
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: point three KJR FM. Great to have you with us
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: here this morning. Man, We've had a run of beautiful weather.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Looks like it's gonna be nice again today.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Here in the Pacific Northwest.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? Soak it all up?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Soak it up like a biscuit. I say, Ashley Ryan
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is here? My name is Chuck Pilot's great to have
• 24:13
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• 24:21
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• 24:28
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• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Our keyword is media. M E d I A.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Jay Buner, Dave Valley, Aaron Goldsmith are part of the media.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I used that in a sentence there.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Mariners TV broadcast last night, What the call? The Mariners
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: do win over the Houston Astros three to one the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: final score, so they get their four game series in Houston.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Started off on a good note.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: George Kirby has been an Astros killer throughout his young
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: career and wasn't his best last night, but certainly very good.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: He allowed just one run over five inning, struck out
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: seven batters, but lost track of his pitch count. It
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: got up on him and he barely got out of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the fifth inning before the team turned things over to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: four different relievers to close out the Astros, including two
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: guys that we have not pressed into that kind of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: role before, well at least one of them. Nick Devila
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: worked scoreless sixth, Cooper Criswell a scoreless seventh, Bizardo, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: then Munos closed it out for his eighth save of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the year and looked very Munos like I.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Would agree with that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's our guy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: I gave up one hit, yeap scared us a little bit, Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: but other than that got it done.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You kind of threw some nasty, nasty stuff to jor
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: don Al.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that last pitch she struck him out on
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I was like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, good word, yeah, good job man. So three to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: one the final score of the Mariners now twenty and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: twenty two on the season. They will face the Asss
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: again tonight. It'll be Brian Woo versus tatsua Emi. That
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: is your pitching matchup. First pitch is at five ten,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and I would assume the team will be without Jose
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Ferrer again today. He was sent on paternity leave and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: so we might have to see a patchwork bullpen again
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: tonight to get us through it. But of course the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: main goal is for Brian Wu to go eight innings
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: or so. That would help a lot.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Brian.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm not just don't ask.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You for a lot. I mean you've never helped me move.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I haven't asked you for anything.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, you never bought me lunch. I never looked
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: at you and like, hey man, I'm a little short
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: on rent this month.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I think you could help a brother out.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah he's never offered either.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Think you owe me a favor, frankly, a personal favor,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and I would like to cash it in a little
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: bit tonight. Give us eight shutout innings.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: What do you say, Bud be a pal.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be a pal. Let's take a look at your
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: frost brewed. Of course, like Cho's chill headlines before we
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: continue with the Mariners conversation. I mean, because if Brian
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: will give me this favor, I might ask for a car.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: The NFL schedule will be released officially on Thursday. We
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: already got a leak this morning. The Kansas City Chiefs
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and Denver Broncos are going to play Monday Night football.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The first Monday night football game of the year. Might
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be the second technically, because we've been doing the two
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Monday night football games on opening weekend.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Did text into the Tacoma Dodge text line and say,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: didn't they say they're not going to do maybe to
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: at least an opening.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Week Maybe maybe maybe that's true. But we do know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos are going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: play Monday night football of the opening weekend. We don't
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: even know if it's in Kansas City or Denver, at
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: least I haven't seen that updated to this point. But
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it does eliminate another possible home opener season opener opponent
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks on Wednesday to begin the year. The
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs were a candidate to play that game
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a rematch against ken Walker. That's not going to not
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a rematch but a matchup against ken Walker, So that's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: not going to happen. It's looking very much like it
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: will be the Bears that the Seahawks will start with
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: let's say elsewhere in our corps light choose chill headlines.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: It's PGA Championship week as well, so the second major
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the year, we'll start on Thursday, will do a
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: lot on that tomorrow. It's preaking this week, so the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: second Crown of the Triple Crown, a second Jewel of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the Triple Crown, will be held this Saturday. But we
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: won't have a Triple Crown winner this year because Golden
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Tempo is not going to race the Kentucky Derby winner.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs last night, Okase ouse the Lakers from the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: playoffs in four straight games. They are now eight and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: zero in the playoffs. The Thunder they haven't even had
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Jalen Williams available to them, their second best player, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: they've gone eight to no so far in the playoffs.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: San Antonio is going to be take into at least
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: six games with the Minnesota Timberwolves. So okase, he's gonna
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have all that rest in the Western for the Western
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Conference Finals and whoever comes out of the Minnesota san
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Antonio series will not be able to say the same
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: tonight Minnesota san Antonio in Texas Game number five. And yes,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Wimby will play in the game. He was not suspended
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: for the elbow he threw at naz Reed Cleveland. The
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: squared there series with Detroit last night, so the Cavaliers
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and Pistons were even at two games apiece. Finally, Stanley
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Cup Playoffs, Colorado is up three.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: To one on the Minnesota Wild.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: They won five to two last night Buffalo at Montreal,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Tonight at Anaheim at Las Vegas.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Those are your frost brewed cors like shoes chill headlines
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday. And the Mariners do win over
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. It is nice. We seem to have
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the upper hand in that relationship right now.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Feels good.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I enjoy it a lot more than when it was
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: the other way, Yes for sure. Yeah I didn't like
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: it when they owned us. Yeah I like owning them
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: to keep doing that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And look, I mean we've actually fared really well against them.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Even when the Astros were still winning the division, the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Mariners were playing well heads up against them. So I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: don't think there was there's been an intimidation factor with
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the Astros in four to five years. I really don't. Now. Now,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: we still have a lot to do to settle the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: score because they owned the division for a decade and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: we're coming off our first division champion in a quarter century,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and so there's a lot to do to settle the score.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But not only have they not played intimidated by the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Houston Astros the last few seasons, now they seem to.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get carried away because
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: we see I'll have three more games to play against them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: But we kind of used them to get well against
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean earlier in the year that the Mariners did.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for sure.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And now here you are losing two out of
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: three to the Chicago White Sox. It's all right, it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the Astros. We always get well against them. That's quite
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the reverse of fortune.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: It is, because, yeah, you used to be just even
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: two years ago when it was you could see that
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: we were starting to at least even out it was
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: still a scary thing when you had the face and
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: still would you know, we would as fans especially stress out.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: So to have it be the opposite now and not
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: be even remotely scared, I mean I'm a little scared
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: regardless of who were playing at this point, with how
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: the Mariners are playing, but not nearly what I used
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: So Mariners went last night by a final score of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: three to one over the Houston Astros Julio with a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: big fly home run, some aggressive base coaching early in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the contest which led to two runs that ended up
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: being the difference in the game. George Kirby not great,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: but sound, and he got through five innings with the lead,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and then the bullpen did its job, Davila, Criswell, Bizardo
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and Munnos closing it out for a three to one victory.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: So hopefully it launches something. Hopefully it gets the team
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: on the right track. Of course they don't. They actually
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: hate momentum as an organization.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: We don't need any of that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like momentum in the spring just don't go together
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: in Mariner's baseball and the Jerry Depoto era. So we'll
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: we'll try to tap into momentum we'll try to cash
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: in on that, say July, August, and September, but right now, no,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: we don't.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Take advantage of anything positive.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, late summer's more of our momentum time of year.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Anything early, the momentum is in bloom finely.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, it's just you're you're trying to pick the
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: fruit off the tree too early, and it's very bitter.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Aren't strawberries a summer fruit?
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, just wait wait till they're right. Stop
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: trying to make momentum happen.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Right, We're not a bed of flowers. We're more like
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a patch of strawberries. That's the Mariner's Baseball.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Bring it on in July.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So, but a lot of good stuff from last night,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and so I hesitate to bring up something bad, but
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I really from yesterday we talked about it a little bit,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: but from the time we finished the show to this morning.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Because we have Ryan Healy on at nine o'clock, we
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: don't have Bucky right now. So normally we would be
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: leaning really heavily into forcing Bucky to fix cal Raleigh.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Right now, what's wrong with his swing, what's wrong with
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: his approach, what's happening with him, and I've played a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: little bit of amateur baseball analyst with that, but I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: really want to get to the bottom of it because
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna need this guy. I know we won last night,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and I know he contributed heavily to the victory last night.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I mean he caught Kirby d Vila, criswel Bizardo in munios.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: He was a huge part of that game plan. He
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: always is. But for four again last night, which means
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: cal Raley is over his last thirty six. He has
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: never looked worse or more lost, I think, at any
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: time in his career. And remember Cal didn't exactly take
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the league by fire. He was striking out a lot
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: early in his career and he had to kind of
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: punch through that. Once upon a time he shared the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: catching duties with with oh gosh, damn with Tom Murphy.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: If you can't forget Murphy. Yeah, So he's just in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a bad place right now. He's even told the reporters
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it's terrible. He's got a two thirty eight on base percentage,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: one fifty seven batting average. And I heard what Jay
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: said that at the end of the year. Boy, even
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: as bad as season as he's having, if you can
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: just times everything by four, he's at twenty eight thirty
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: home runs this year and that's still a good year. No,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it's not because a batting average times four is still
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: one fifty seven. That's not great, Jay, That's not only
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: not great. That is you hit eighth, ninth in the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: lineup and the only reason you're in the lineup is
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for your defense, because you're a catcher.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have to accept. I mean I've accepted
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: long ago.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think cal Rawley's ever going to be a
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: three hundred hitter, a two eighty hitter. I think that
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: there might be seasons where he does it two twenty
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: to two forty. Uh but one sixty actually one fifty seven. No, No,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that's that's not acceptable. Now we know what the team
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: has invested in him, we know what he did just
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a year ago, and we know that it's still mid May,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of time to come out of this.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, Showe Aotani can't get a hit
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: right now. Shoe Aotani might be the one guy slumping
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: as badly, and the Superstar department is cal Raley right now,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and don't you have every faith that Shoe a Otani
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is still going to end up having a successful year.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Of course he will, and I think cal will come
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: out of this, but there's a lot of work to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: do here, and as as playing, you know, sort of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the Bucky fill in on this. I mean, I've been
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: saying this all season long, and we heard Dave talking
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: about it last night, We talked talking heard Jay talking
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: about it last night, we talked heard Harold Reynolds talk
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: about it yesterday on MLB Network. He's just not on
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: time with the fastball, and until you get on time
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: with the fastball, you're never going to hit at the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: major league level. And cal Raley, on top of that,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is pretty much swinging at everything. As Aaron I thought
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: very appropriately pointed out last night, I mean, he's he's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: not taking pitches because he's so insecure right now about
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: hitting behind in the count. He's trying to jump on
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: something so that he can just get it hit, so
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that he can just contribute, so he can time something up.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And so he's pretty much swinging at everything, and teams
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: are taking advantage of what is a slow bat right now,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a lack of confidence and the fact that he's over
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: aggressive at the plate, and so they are just peppering
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: him with fastballs above the strike zone and he is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: swinging through all of them because he can't catch up
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to them. And so I think Bucky would give him
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the advice that Jay Buhner shared last night. You just
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: got to look fastball, period. If you got to start early,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you got to start early. If you end up looking
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: foolish because they break off a breaking ball, then look foolish.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But until you can catch up with the fastball, you're
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to hit Son. So cal Raley,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't think that he would be going through something
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like this. All hitters do, including Aaron Judge. But he
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: is going through a period right now in the season
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: where he has a liability at the plate, and so
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: they've moved him to fourth, but that's still a really
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: big spot in the order. They might have to take
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it a step further until he can get right. Take
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: him down to sixth, take him down to seventh, maybe
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in the lineup right now, but he is a broken
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: hitter right now. And the same guys that were whispering
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in his ear last year during his sixty homer season
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: are the same guys there. So you know that Kevin
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Seitzer and Edgar Martinez are giving him sound advice, he
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: can't execute it right now. Then you add the psychology
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: of the sport where all of a sudden, you think
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you're doing all the things that you should be doing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to get out of your slump, and nobody's going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: ever question cal Raley's work ethic. I promise you he's
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: taken extra BP and then he's gone through a stretch
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of maybe I'm taking too much VP. So he's working
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: his tail off and it's a big tail. He's working
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: his tail off to get right for this team right now.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But knowing that he's working hard, he's getting the right advice,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing wrong, and he still can't
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: even come close to medicating it, to fixing the wound.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: At this point shows you just how difficult this game is,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: how hard it is to hit at the major league level,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: even for someone who a year ago achieved something we
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: never thought we would see from a catcher sixty home
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: runs in a season. But even the pre sixty homer
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: cal Raley was an All Star caliber catcher. And so
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: we went into this season saying, as you know, we
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: can't expect him to hit sixty home runs. So as
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: long as he's still the cal Raley that we knew
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: prior to twenty twenty five, then we're good. We're good
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: with that cal Raley. But right now he's nowhere close
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to being that and it has to get fixed.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And yesterday, sitting into our post show meeting, our
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: boss said, is this the most disappointing you know, MVP
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: to MVP runner up to follow up year from anybody
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: we've ever seen. And you have to look at it
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: and say, at least for the start, Yeah, this is
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: extremely disappointing and obviously no more disappointing to us than
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: it is to cal Rawley. He's the one that's tried
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: to fix it and working hard to fix it. And
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: you know, talking about the mental aspect of it, I
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: go back to Rob Refsneider talking about on a smaller scale, obviously,
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: what he was dealing with at the start of the
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: season and unable to get a hit and the mental
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: toll it takes, and how many conversations he was having
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: with like their mental coaches and the mental side of
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: things and trying, you know, just trying to.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Will yourself to figure it out and get right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: And then it's just kind of a vicious circle, right
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: because it's if then you go out there and you think, Okay,
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: today's the day I'm going to fix it, this is
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: going to be good. Then you could you know, you
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: go oh for four. All right, Now I got to
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: go back and try to figure it out again tomorrow.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: So what did I do today? And you're just in
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: your head so much.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: It just you know, the between the ears thing, as
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: Bucky would say, you got to get all of it right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean every time he hits a ball hard,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he's out in front of it and he pulls it
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: down the line, and then he suddenly goes into a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: hole and now he doesn't want to go oh two,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: so he tends to swing out of the strike zone
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and then he's O two and now he's scele to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: everything because not only does the pitcher have him at
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: a disadvantage, he also doesn't have the confidence hitting down
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in the lineup, so he's swinging. As Aaron pointed out,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he's he's swinging more than he normally does, so he
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't even have an eye of the strike zone right now.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And then when he doesn't swing, it's usually on a
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: called strike three. So it's like that's when you need
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to perhaps have to go out of your strike zone.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: So that's how off he is. I mean, they used
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to say about Greg Maddox. When Greg Maddox was on
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: his game, he would get you to swing at balls
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and take strikes. I mean, think about that and go
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: watch some Greg Maddox. He was unbelievable about it. He
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: had hitters tied in such knots with the movement of
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: his pitches and his mastery over them psychologically that he
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: would get them to swing at stuff that wasn't in
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the strike zone and they would take all of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: stuff that was in the strike zone. I mean, that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: is mastering the hitter. And right now cal Rawley's like
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the opposite of that. Cayl Rawley is every at bat
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like facing Greg Maddox. He seems to be swinging at
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: everything early, whether it's in the strike zone or not.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And then when he's in the hole, he ends up
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: taking some sort of backdoor slider in the zone and
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: so he's stuck. He's stuck, and it happens to the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: best of baseball players. Like I said, it's happening to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: show a Otani right now too. I watched him play
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: last night against the San Francisco Giants. That's not a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: good pitching staff, and he looked absolutely lost. I mean,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: he looked just as lost as cal Rawley. So if
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: it can happen to show a they can pretty much
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: happen to anybody. Aaron Judge goes through these long stretches
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: of ineffectiveness.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: He's just going through it right now. I have every
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: faith he's going to come out of it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I have every faith that we're going to end up
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: with a thirty five home run season out of cal
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Rawley had a batting average probably around two twenty five
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: because he has such a big hole to dig out of.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But I'll take thirty five homers, two twenty five batting
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: average and excellent defense from cal Rawley. That's fine. That
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is just fine. What we're not going to be able
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to achieve our goals with is if our best player.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Is hitting one fifty seven.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So no, we can't just times it by four and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: say it's good enough, because it is not good enough.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And we had to call out even our most favorite
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: players when they are slumping and struggling and costing the team.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing right now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and is and he knows that, and that's probably
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: just eating them up inside. And especially for the season
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: to have started with him and Naylor and Julio all
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: really cold, and now you've seen Naylor and Julio figure
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: their stuff out and he's still there figuring it out.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: That's got to also be just extra annoying to him
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: that he's the one that can't figure it out.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's torturing him. You can see it in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: his face.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You see it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: I get it. I don't blame him.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: You can see it on every pitch, you can see
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it in the in the dugout. Even as Ashley pointed out,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: even with the victory last night, where he did his
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: job behind the plate last night, it wasn't the same,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know, look on his face after a victory.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: He's just he's really fighting it right now, all right.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Coming up next on the radio program, it his NFL
• 44:06
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• 44:13
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• 44:17
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  Speaker 1: Former NBA tenure, NBA vet, former you Dub big Man,
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  Speaker 1: former high school legend here in Seattle, and Ben our
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  Speaker 1: two seasons. So we get to chat with him once
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: per week this time of the year. Spencer hawis is
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: with us here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? How are things with you? How
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: was your weekend? Did you enjoy us a nice, lovely, romantic,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: good weather weekend.
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: Had a great weekend, good Mother's Day, brunch at home,
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: n family, and then kind of got spoiled Sunday night
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: with the Spurs situation.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: But we move on, we bounce back tonight.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I do want to talk about the Spurs situation,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: but I got to have you weigh in on my
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: list first. I don't know if Ashley warned you what
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I was getting ready to do, but I made a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: couple of bold statements. I put together my best list
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: all time, ten best players in NBA history. Here's the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: first bold statement in it. I said, Michael Jordan is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: clearly number one, but I think Lebron is just as
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: clearly number two. And I think the gap between two
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and three is larger than two and one.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: What is your thought about that?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good list.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: I hate the revisionists, you know, trying to compare eras,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: but I do agree that those two are clearly at
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: the top, and there's a pretty good, pretty sizable gap
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: between those two gentlemen and everybody else. I got a
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: bold statement that I'm fired up about this morning, Okay, myself,
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: i'd like to share.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: And this is an individual and Howard Schultz that I
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: rarely agree with and like to see getting any sort
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: of publicity, But he wrote an interesting op ed in
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: the Wall Street Journal about the state of the Seattle
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: business climate, and I hope that the mayor read it,
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: and I hope that she's taking notes, because I saw
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: yesterday in an interview she's talking about throwing in more
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: taxes for the city of Seattle, and as it pertains
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: the Sonics, and obviously Howard's history with that franchise here,
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: I'd just like to throw out a little warning to
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: her that, you know, all of these measures that that
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: she's either done or talking about doing in the city
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: and that the state is done here is not helping
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: our cause trying to lure back the Sonics. So I'd
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: like to ask her and the politicians above her in
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: the state to start reconsidering if they are really sports
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: fans and not just people that like putting hats on
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: at parades and press conferences and pretending to reconsider the
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: actions they're taking that are demeaning our business environment if
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: we want to have a chance to get the Sonics back.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: So I'm getting that off my chest. Let's get to
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: the playoff analysis.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you got it off your chest. Then Spencer
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Hawes is with us. Here are NBA playoff insider. All right,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the Whimby situation. Then what did you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: think of the actual moment in the game, and then
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: how the officials and the league reacted, meaning he got
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: ejected from the game but not suspended any further beyond
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that your thought on the entire scenario.
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: So I think, first and foremost the elbow warranted interjection.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's you can't.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it is as a big guy, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: especially when you're younger and p I've never been seven
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: to seven before. But the way that they guard him
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: and the way that he's officiating.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: He might have another verse.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: You never know, I hope not at this point.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: But when guys are when guys are beating you up
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: and hanging on you like that over the course of
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: a game, a series, a season, it takes his toll
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: and in that particular instance, he had two guys and
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: mcaniels and nas Red climbing all over him, fouling him.
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: And I think the officials want I mean, their job
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: in a game is to control the game and control
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: the flow and not let it get out of hand
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: either way. And if they do their job early and
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: call a foul before the second defender gets in there
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: and starts hanging all over him, he doesn't react like that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: And that's not to justify his reaction.
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Obviously that was excessive, and like I said, I think
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: warrant the ejection. Unfortunately, uh, in that instance, if they're
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: doing their job, it doesn't get to that point, and
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: you don't have Wenby getting kicked out, and you don't
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: have nas Reed taking.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: The sharpest elbow in the west right to his jugular.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Did do you think that Mitch Johnson's message after the game,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: which I also loved, He'll take the fine. I'm going
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to defend my big man and send a message. Do
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: you think it will work?
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: You will?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see the game officiated a little
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: differently from Wemby's perspective tonight?
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I would hope so.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: And if I know anything about how the playoffs operate,
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: the Spurs probably.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Have their video crew putting put together.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: A nice little four or five minute montage of all
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: the hits that he's taken, probably not just in this series,
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: but going back to the last one, and maybe before
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: h to the league office to demonstrate how they referee
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: him versus, for example, how Julius Randall is refereed on
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: the other end of the floor where he's just hand
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: checking anybody you can at twenty five feet to try
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: and stay stay in front of him. So I would
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: expect Wendy to come out tonight with his boots on fire,
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: and I think they are going to have to, you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: officiate differently in light of the context that is now,
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: you know, kind of the national spotlight on this series.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: You know, Bickerstaff called out the officials last night. There
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: was a huge discrepancy I think it was thirty four
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: free throws to twelve in the Cavaliers Pistons game, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: he pointed out that Kenny Atkinson, head coach of the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Cavaliers earlier in the series, had made the NBA officials,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the officials in the series aware of some things that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: he didn't like about it, and since that time, According
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to Bickerstaff, the officiating has turned on its head and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: now he feels like all the calls are going the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Cavaliers way.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: It's sad that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: An officiating crew could respond that way, could react that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: way to some criticism, But does it work? Does it
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: work as a head coach to call out officials? Do
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you more often than not get the immediate dividends of
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that just by making them aware of the discrepancies that
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: are occurring.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: And the first thing you have to remember is that
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: the officials are human beings.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: We don't have robohumps.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: And I think what gets lost in a lot of
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: this conversation and everyone wants to talk about home court
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: advantage and especially in the playoffs and why it's so important.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: But you know, I think last night was a great
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: example of you know, the Cavaliers being a team that
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: they rely heavily on three point shooting, and generally your
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: three point shooters, especially your non stars that aren't going
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: to get as many looks, always shoot better at home.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: But you also get the benefit of the whistle at
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: home a lot more than you do on the road.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: In the playoffs, and whether they've been called out or not,
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: I think that's been a constant as long as I
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: can remember in the playoffs, and I think it's showing
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: itself not only in that series, and I would go out,
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: I probably don't have to go out on a limb
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: and say that will also be the case in San Antonio.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: This evening, Well, that's what we've got left to hang
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: our hat on. In this round we had two sweeps.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the two series that are still alive,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and they're even right now at two games apiece. What
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: will be the outcome of San Antonio Minnesota? What will
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: be the outcome of Cleveland Detroit? And what will the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: reasons be for those outcomes?
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: In your estimation, I think there's still well, there's more
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: intrigue now given the Wemby ejection and all everything that
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: comes along with that. I still think that series is
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: a little easier to predict. I do you think San
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: Antonio comes out ahead on that one? The Cavs Pistons.
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, it's interesting the Pistons get up
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: to oh at home, everyone thinks they got in the bag,
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: and then the age old adage of a series doesn't
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: start till the team gets one on the road, they
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: go back to Cleveland, where Cleveland's had a huge home
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: court advantage for a few years now in the playoffs,
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: and they even a backup, So I think that I
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: think the game five in that one is going to
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: tell us a lot more about how things are.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Going to go.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: I think Cleveland has found something being at home. But
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: Kate Counningham has looked maybe not last night, but up
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: until this point in the series, looked like by far
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: and away the best player in that series.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: And usually when you get.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: To the playoffs, you know, if all other things are closed,
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: the team with the best player and especially the best
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: closer ends up.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: For Daily Spencer Oss is with us former NBA ten
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: year player, and of course you dub big Man and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he's joining us here on Chuck and Buck throughout the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs for a second year in a row to
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: be our NBA Playoff expert. And we have two series
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: of course that we're swept. I mean, can the Knicks
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: play any better than what they played against Philadelphia? And
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: is it sustainable going forward?
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, they look like the biggest juggernaut we've seen
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: so far so far in the playoffs, and maybe outside
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: of OKC.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I think Okase he's had.
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: Pretty favorable matchups, but that's what you get when you're
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: the number one seed.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: You position yourself that way.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: But you know, they went in obviously against the Philly
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: team that's that has some flaws, but you know, people
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: forget they did this without Og and Nobi and still
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: made that quick work of the Sixers team that was
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: riding some good momentum coming into that series. So I
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: don't know if you can count on them shooting the
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: ball the same way, but it looks like, you know,
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: the way that Mike Brown is kind of innentered with
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: Karl Anthony Towns and using him as more of a
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: point forward. I think his assist totals are the thing
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: that stood out to be in that last series against Philly.
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: He's really turned into certainly their secondary, if not primary,
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: playmaker in the half court, and I think that's a
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: massive advantage that the Knicks have against whoever comes out
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: of that other series in the East, and if they
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: can prevail there, they will have him in the finals
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: as well.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: It's pretty much only one rule in the Spencer conversation,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: try not to give the thunder credit. Ever, and yet
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Man eight to no to this point in the playoffs
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: without their second best player being healthy, and now they're
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: going to get all that rest for whoever comes out
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: of San Antonio Minnesota. Man, they just and they're getting
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: contributions from everyone. I mean SGA doesn't even have to
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: have good games and they're still winning easily here through
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the first two rounds of the playoffs. I think you
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: were leaning toward the Spurs at the beginning of the postseason.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Are you changing your mind based on what you're seeing
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: out of OKC so far?
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: Jo, I'm still leaning on Spurs. I'm I'm still pulling
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: for my boy, Mitch. I still think I know what
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: you're pulling for us. I still think that that we
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: learned something in the playoffs about the way or sorry
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: in the regular season, about the way that they can
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: match up with Oklahoma City that really no one else
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: can with the size of their guards and the amount
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: of the Spurs. I'm talking about the amount of point
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: of attack defenders that they have they can throw at.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: S G. A. J.
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: Williams and now apparently AJ Mitchell who's turned into a
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: legitimate number two options. But Oklahoma there, they're really good
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: and they're really balanced, and if I didn't have all
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: this hate in my heart for him, I'd probably enjoy it,
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: and I'd certainly enjoy watching where they play basketball. The
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: way they move the ball, I think is the thing
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: that stands out, and it's they've struck quite a balance
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: of having the best score in the league, who is
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: so effective in isolation, who can go out and do
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: it on his own, yet has the willingness to get
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: off the ball and allow that thing to skip around
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: to find all the rest of the guys and keep
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: them engaged on the offensive end of the floor, which
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: in turn generally gets guys more engaged on the opposite
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: end when they feel like they're touching the ball and
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: they're having something to do with it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're scary right now, just scary.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And so hopefully we got a good Western Conference and
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals ahead of us, because there are a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: couple of blowouts there in round number two, and of
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: course the Lakers are out. Just kind of bringing it
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: back to Lebron here quickly. Do you think he's played
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: his last game? And if so, how does Spencer Awl
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: has put his career in perspective.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, I was kind of going down, going down
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: the rabbit hole this morning and looking at some of
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: his uh, well, the regular season accomplishments, and then what
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: he's been able to do in the playoffs and his
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: averages in the playoffs, and you don't, yeah, if they
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: would have won the championship, maybe he says, Okay, I
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: go out on top, and I'm still averaging twenty five
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: and five. But I think getting swept in the second
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: round of the playoffs is not not how I would
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: imagine someone like him want wants to go out playing
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: his final game. And I think as a shock to
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: most people, his ability to still be so productive at
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: forty one shows me that there's still a lot left
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: in the tank, and there's a lot left to contribute
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: to winning, which I think is at this stage of
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: his career ultimately his motivation, and whether it's in LA
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: or in another opportunity. I think being the third option
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: this year really in being comfortable being the third option,
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: which men people probably didn't anticipate that he would be,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: shows that, you know, there's a lot more situations than
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: maybe the league originally anticipated that he could go slide
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: into and be a major different difference maker and impact
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: winning both in the regular season and in the course.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Of the playoffs.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see you start thinking about
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: some teams he might fit on. If he'd be willing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to take like a even a tertiary role to play
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: three more years at limited minutes, he might be able
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to latch onto like a finished product and put them
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: over the top. But we shall see. I don't think
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: he's done either. Hey, do you have thoughts on the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: NBA lottery at all?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I mean you don't.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: You're not as suspicious of it as I am. Are
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: you about it to being rigged? Didn't we have that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: conversation a year ago?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I am not.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: I'm I'm very grateful that the thunder didn't buck the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: odds and end up with a top four pick, But no,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: I think I think we talked about this. I commend
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: the league and the commissioner for being open to trying
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: out a new model, and if it works, great, If
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: it doesn't, it's better than leaving the system now where
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: you just have teams giving up before the All Star break.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: And I think it's going to make for some interesting,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: interesting play by some bad teams next year down the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: stretch to try and avoid getting punished for being at
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: the at the lowest rung of the totem pole. And
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: I'm hopeful that it leads to a better product going forward,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: and that this anching narrative can, if not disappear, at
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: least be mitigated to a certain extent.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just mitigate it. I think that's the only
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: goal you can have, is just to so it doesn't
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: become such a prominent story and so many of your markets.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you, and I still don't know
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: if they're going far enough with their idea. I think
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I'd like to just get rid of the entire lottery
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: process and figure out a way to to you know,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: make teams earn it down the stretch, if there's a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: really creative way to do that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: But we shall see how it goes.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, thank you very much. You got
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit off your chest today. We got to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: talk about history a little bit of the league, and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: you also got to defend BigMan who are always getting
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: fouled more than they should.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: You know, my dad always taught me, if you're gonna
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: throw the elbow, you have to pivot with it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: You can't lead with the elbow. You gotta lead with
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: the pivot and then it's a legal move.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Good to know.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, man, well, thank you very much.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll bug you again next week. All right,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks for having me. All right, Spencer hollis
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in the morning,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: and so yes, Timberwolves and Spurs. Tonight it will be
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: game number five. Is it going to be the decisive
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: game in the series. Wemby will play in the contest
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: remains to be seen. If it will be officiated any differently.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of sad. I think it's very
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: frustrating that if it is, I think it needs to be.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'm torn because I think it needs to be officiated differently.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think that you can let anyone and I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: know this, you know, I know there are a lot
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: of people are like, hey, he's just like anybody else.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: If he's too skinny to take it, then he can, you.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Know, get hurt. It's no big deal.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: You know, he needs to be like anybody else. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: think that you kind of have to protect your superstars
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: to a degree.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: But I also just to a degree I also don't
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: think they're treating him like anyone else right now, because
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think they know necessarily how. People don't know
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: how to defend him, so their officials don't know how
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: to officiate in that way too, to make it fair
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: for either of either side, right.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm kind of torn.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, I want him to be more protected by
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the league, but I don't want it to go so
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: far as that ends up being the story tomorrow, right,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: And then the Timberwolves have a legitimate gripe because you've
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: you caved subconsciously or consciously overnight, and now you're officiating
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: the series completely differently. When our guys got locked into
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: how we were going to limit him, and now all
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, we can't touch him. You know, Cleveland
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Detroit series is going on right now, and Bickerstaff accused
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Cleveland of planting a seed in the official's head, and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: that is Kenny Atkinson's job. You get to the postgame
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: press conference and you say, I don't like the way
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: this was done. You know, doesn't feel like this this
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and this is happening the right way, and then the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: next thing you know, you go to Cleveland and Cleveland's
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: getting all the calls, and now Detroit's looking up at
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: a thirty four to twelve free throw differential and losing
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the basketball game. So now Bickerstaff has thrown his thoughts
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: into it to try to get back into the official's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: head and kind of reverse the way things are going.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: It just should not swing that dramatically like all the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: damn game, and don't be so influenced by And maybe
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: they're not, but it feels that way. It feels like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the officials in the Cleveland Detroit series have been way
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: too influenced by coaches criticisms and maybe even a phone
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: call from from the league office saying, yeah, they're right
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: about this, and now they've kind of swung it the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: other way. I don't want it to swing so far
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the other way that the Timberwolves can't touch Wimby tonight. No,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I don't want to see
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: him being manhandled every time he gets the ball, because
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see Wimby be able to be Wimby tonight.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: It's yeah, you can't treat him like he's made of glass,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: but you also can't treat him like he's made of steel.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: And and everything they do, as.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: In all, a lot of materials in between them, A
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: lot of materials in between there. Let's go with something
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: a little softer but a little tougher than glass.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, plexiglass perhaps, Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Fabroche. No, that's even lighter.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Right, It takes a lot of work.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: How do you not get it?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Something in between?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, guys, teflon No, all right, ABC's of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the MS Next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Sumner and Auburn.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: You just get more at sunset. People do like that.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: So dramatically wonderful.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: So here we go, ABC's of the MS. It's our
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: daily Mariners segment. We allow the alphabet to be our
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: guide through a few things. Let me first recap what
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: happened last night a when three to one over the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Houston Astros scored two runs early to clutch RBI hits
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: from Dom and from Cole Young in the game, and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: then a Julio Rodriguez bomb and then George Kirby only
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: made it through five. We're down three of our top
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: five relievers right now, and yet guys stepped up got
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: the job done. Four scoreless innings from our bullpenned four
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: different pitchers last night and it's a three to one
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: win in Houston. Good way to start the four game series.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: So let's get to the alphabet we left off of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: the letter in and it is for Nicky sixth. Uh
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: nick Devila last night stepping into a big and I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: guess it's not technically high leverage. I don't think high
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: leverage is counted on until seventh, eighth, and ninth. But
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: to be handed the ball by George Kirby certainly the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: biggest moment of his major league career since he's pitched twice.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: But I was surprised that, oh, wow, we're going here.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Huh is what we're doing? Okay, I guess we'll we'll
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: do it. We haven't even really got to know this bloke,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: and yet here he is standing on the mound with
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a slim lead against the Houston Astros, taking the ball
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: from George Kirby. And if he didn't get the job done,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: nice job, young man.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, well done, Nicky sixth.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll start calling Nicky.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: Six only allowed to play in the sixth, Right, that's it?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: And wins?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he pitches then a loss? Who cares right,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: then we don't talk about him at all.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: But in a win. I mean that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I mean when you're when you're going into the evening
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: and you know you're down, and you've got George who's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: known for his control. Now he's also had a past
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: where he's not been the most efficient dude in the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: world despite his control, which to me does not add up.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Uh and yet man, he barely got through the fifth
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: last night.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I kind of had to do a double take, Like,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, his pitch counts that high and we're
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: in the fifth inning and he's only allowed one, and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: it feels like he's having a pretty good game, and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: yet he barely got through the fifth. And I don't know,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was part of the script.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, who's going
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to pitch the sixth?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Nikki?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Nikki sixth?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Well, and especially yeah with Kirby, because it feels like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: he's been so efficient, uh huh this far in the season,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: and so yeah, for him to get to ninety nine pitches,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: it was.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Like, well, yeah, what happened, George?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: This isn't George.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I when I'm watching the replay right now, maybe I'll
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: figure it out.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, Kelly counting him up?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Just start counting his pitches. Hey, he's at twenty three
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: right now on the replay. Just threw his twenty fourth
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: pitch and he's in the bottom of the second with
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: just one out. So yeah, not real vision, No.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: He was not.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: But I mean, at least he only gave up one
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: run yesterday. My prediction was he'd go seven and give
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: up one hit.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Oh I was off.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: I was wrong. But okay, five and you gave up
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: one run. Still I accepted.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he did well last night, but
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: really it was the bullpen and guys like Davila and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Criswell that came through. Uh Cooper Criswell. By the way,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: he's going to join us for the first time ever
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: today at nine thirty. Oh is for over aggression, and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I do believe that our third base coach last night
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: was over aggressive in sending two runners in that second inning.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, can Zone's RBI hit the other way was
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: blistered and Randy's fast, but it felt like that was
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: an over aggressive move. I think if the left fielder
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: fields that cleanly he guns Randy A Rose Arena out
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: at home plate. Then on the very next batter, Cole
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Young with a base it to right field. And if
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Luke Rayley doesn't round that third base bag perfectly, I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: mean he barely was safe.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Anyway, sliding his fingers right underneath the tag.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he I mean, if he's not a fast
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: guy who doesn't hit that bag perfectly, and you know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: hit that and you're able to not round the bag
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: but project yourself toward home plate, and then he was
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: still barely safe after a beautiful slide.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue that those.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Were both wrong decisions. And yet I like an over
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: aggressive third base coach, and I think when you're struggling
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: offensively with two and we're not known for two out
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: base hits, yeah, go for it. Maybe they do bobble
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: the ball on left field. Maybe Rayley does, you know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: round the bag perfectly and score make them make the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: play against you. So those were two over aggressive sins,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and yet they were the difference in the game last night.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: And we might not win that baseball game if we
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: don't treat those two plays that aggressively.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: We Yeah, And that babble on the Randy. When Randy scored,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: wasn't even that big of a bobble. I mean he
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: bobbled it slightly and then and then threw to the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: cutoff guy instead of even trying to throw home, which
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: I was thankful for, but both of them were close.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: I liked the fact that, yeah, we were just like,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: you know what, we're risking it. Let's see what happens.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: Fly fly fly, Maybe.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: No risk at no biscuit, that's right. Carlos Cardoza is
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the third base coach for the Seattle Mariners, and so
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: he played a big role in that victory last night.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: And then fine P is for power, And of course
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to refer to Julio Rodriguez. How many times
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: have we had a conversation on this show over the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez career with Bucky yourself and I talking about
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Julio coming up in situations and trying to hit a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: ball seemingly one thousand feet when all you need is
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: a base hit in that moment.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and more often than not, it's been in a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: clutch moment we needed him and it's backfired.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: So I want every time that he does that again
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: in the future for the coaching staff to show him
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that home run last night, because he didn't even get
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: it all.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: He was actually his feet were out a little.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Ahead, but he kept his hands back and then just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: took as he said to Brad Adam after the game,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: just put a good swing on the ball. And he
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: just put a good swing on the ball. And look, son,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: how far you can hit the baseball because you are
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: that strong, you are that talented, you are that of
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: a hitter. I mean, he almost knocked it out of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the stadium and he didn't take a swing for the fences.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: That was just I'm a little out in front, but
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my hands back and I'm gonna put
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: a good swing on this thing and then look at
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: it fly. So when you are in those game winning
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: situations and we need to hit, just try to put
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: a good swing on the ball and it might leave
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the park anyway. It might leave the park by a lot,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: because it did last night. That's how good you are.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna go up there trying to murder
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the ball a thousand feet so that everybody will marvel
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: at you on Sports Center that night, then I think
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: you're going to fail in those moments more than you succeed.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: But if you approach it just like you did last night,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to put a good swing on the ball,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: you can be the hero. You can hit the five
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: hundred foot home run like we saw last night. It
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: was a thing of beauty. It just shows you how
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: much pea for power that that guy really has.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'd much rather see you put a good
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: swing on it and you fly out to this to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: center field without I'd rather see that than you swinging
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: for the fences and you lose balance and almost fall
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: over at the plate, which we've seen too often. So
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: just yeah, keep your wits about you, keep your feet
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: in the right position, keep just keep your balance, keep
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: your body right, and clearly we know what can happen.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: So I was.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: I thought it was great.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: He I mean, just in general, he's looked good so
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: far this year. He doesn't seem like he's trying to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: swing out of his butt.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: But that's a reminder that you know, when you have
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: that much talent. I mean, Bucky's talking about it with him,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: talked about it with col I mean, this is what
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: launched cow. I mean it was just you put the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: ball in play and your home runs are going to
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: come yep So and that was what the base is
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: empty leading off an inning last night. So the next
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity you have with one out, second and third and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: the ninth inning, remember that swing. Don't swing on the ball,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: and maybe you don't hit a three run homer, but
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: you put the ball in play, and you're not walking
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: back to the dugout having not come through because you've
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: tried to hit the ball seven hundred feet three swings
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: in a row.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: You've got the power. You have the power. So with
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: great power comes great responsibility.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: Boom boom boom boom boom, bump bumples.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Take a breath and go for yourrs on my command.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Now hit the dance floe, Gonna make you sweat till
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: you bleed.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Boom boom boom.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Not like I could keep doing that all right.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Coming up, nest Uh, it's a Seahawks prime time primer,
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  Speaker 1: just in time for more leakage on Sports Radio ninety
• 1:15:43
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  Speaker 1: you today, so I was hoping you could see this.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm happy the camera's not working, and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're also adding adjectives every agitates every
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: single week that I come on here, like what am
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I getting to here next week?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you never know. I like words, Ryan,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I really like words, but I don't know. I'm gonna
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: try to get my video going, but I you know, yeah,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not really technically savvy.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, is out. I like the look on
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: your face like you've been warned before me having said
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: that shocking you wanted to turn my camera off so
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I can feel like I'm part of the group right now.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't see Ashley's photo up there either.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: I can turn mine on. I just try not to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: distract well.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Everybody right now. Yeah, so I don't know.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how to fix it, but
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: hopefully we can get through our time together.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: I turned my camera on and nothing happened either.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: So how are you?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Thanks?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 7: Good?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Thanks are great?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: God?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Marriage is one last night for anything more?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean what stood out to you about it?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lead you down a path. I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: mean three one victory yesterday. Certainly a lot of different elements,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: but you give me the big take away from your perspective.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Yesterday, Bizardo was angry at how the weekend went, so
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: he decided to come out and strike out the side.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: The bullpen overall came in an uncharacteristic early exit, and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: like we are so spoiled as Mariners fans for you know,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: the starting rotation going deep into games. George through a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: tremendous five innings, but the bullpen had a lot of
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: work to do and that's exactly what did to Bela
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: came in. It's did a really nice job. Chris well
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: as well. Bizarredo Munos was getting a little creative. If
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: you guys saw the two changeups that he threw to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: to Alvarado Alvarez, Sorry I should know ord On Alvarez's
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: name through to Alvarez and the nasty ninety three on
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: hour want to finish the game off. The bullpen did
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: a great job and it was really nice to see
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the Mariners win a tight game like that.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of Mariner fans were looking at the results
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: and I think worried about Munos not being the same.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I never saw that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I saw a couple of bad outings from a guy
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: that couldn't find his slider. Were you ever, at any
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: moment worried that Andres Munos is no longer Andres Munos.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: No never. I think that's such a far end of
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: the spectrum thought process for someone who has a long
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: list of success in the major leagues. And imagine having
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: these two just incredible weapons and losing one all of
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: a sudden, and then the fastball that you do have,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: people are on, they're hitting it and it's one hundred,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: but dudes are still barreling it. Like the questions that
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: are happening internally are starting to spiral, And I think
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: the questions that have happened in Munyo's head this year,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: we're seeing happen in cal Rawley's head a little bit.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Cal just has a lot more opportunities to succeed or
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: fail being a hitter than Munyos does. Be in the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: back end of the bullpen.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Ryan Healy is with us. I've already warned
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: our audience what it is that we're going to break
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: down with you. I'm charging you with fixing cal Raley,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: So no pressure, but I just went up, Yeah, get
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: our superstar back for us.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Over his last.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Thirty six What is wrong with cal Raleigh as you
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: can see it, and what steps should he take toward
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: fixing it.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna start with this though, because
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of listeners are youth baseball baseball coaches. Maybe
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: there's some youth baseball players listening. Either way, I want
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: this message to get passed along to the youth that
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: love this game. This is one of the best players
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: in the world that is struggling beyond belief and it's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: still showing up. It's still working hard, it's still finding
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: that motivation to just show up for the Marriagers. Because
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: this is bigger than cal Raley and he knows that.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: But this is also a great human example of how
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: hard this game is. No matter how much success that
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: each individual has throughout the course of their career, everyone
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: is going to have this type of moment and cal
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: has confirmed this multiple times. There's a quote it says,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: for me, it's more mental. It's the mental side than
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: it's trying to physically change something. I'm trying to battle
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: and compete and not worry about the rest of this
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: stuff and try to get back to being more process oriented.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about what that process looks like chuck
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: from a hitter's perspective. Right, step one, go through your
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: routines that you do all day long, from the moment
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: you wake up to the moment you step in the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: batter's box. Cal's doing that and having control over the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: controller balls and doing those things well. But baseball's are
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: funny sport chuck, because the minute you step in the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: batter's box, you have an opportunity to strike out, and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to hit a home run, which
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: one of those two things happens more often. Just for
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: a baseball player striking out, you're gonna strike out. Cal
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: hit sixty home runs last year and still struck out
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty plus time, so that the three
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: almost four x of the time he was punching out
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: more than he was hitting a home run career year. Now,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: think about cal season so far this year. It's been
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: a roller coaster. You know, the world baseball class that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: didn't get a lot of the bats, crammed it in,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: really struggled the first ten games, then found himself looked
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: really good. Then the side injury happens. Oh, no, setback.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Step one in Cal's process, and I would say ninety
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: plus percent of hitters process. When you step in that game,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: batter's boxes get on time for the fastball. Correct. Yes,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: if we can get on time with the fastball as
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: a hitter, then I can go to step two of
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: the process, which is now compete to what secondary pitchers
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: in the zone. How many times have you seen Kyl
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Rawley be on time for a fastball this year early
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: in account? Very rarely.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: So.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: When step one of your process gets punched in the mouth,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: guess what every other step backter? That means chaos, pandemonium.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Your brain is spinning. You have no idea what to do.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: You're trying to repeat step step one of the process
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: over and over again. But now the pitcher's not throwing
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: you fastballs. And then he does throw you fastball, but
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: it's above the zone.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: You chase it.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: And if you notice, the league is pitching Cal completely
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: different this year than they did last year. Cal got
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: on top of the plate last year on both sides
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: of the dish, righty and left tended hitters to take
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: that middleway fastball and make it feel more middle end
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: so he can actually do damage in the air pull side. Okay, great,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: that worked for him tremendously. But the league figure that out.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: These fastballs, where are you seeing these pictures? Throw it
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: up and end. Yeah, they're up and end. They're trying
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: to speed them up. And if they can visually and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: physically speed them up in the oo count the rest
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: of it. They can throw it ever they want because
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: they know he's off balance at that point. So it's
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of just that struggle right now of calib
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I want to get in the process. I want to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: stay focused. I want to compete, and I want to execute.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: But these pitchers are not making mistakes. Oh oh they
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: are not. Even if they do, Col's not able to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: capitalize on it. And unfortunately, that is what baseball can
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: look like.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Jay Buehner said last night during the broadcast that you know,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: when you're in one of these slumps, you just have
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: to look fastball. So what happens Ryan when you've already
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: know that you've already taken that step that I am
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: trying to look fastball. That's why I keep fouling balls
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty feet down the right field line.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: But that's not working because now I'm too quick to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: with my hands to the ball, and now I'm in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a hole and you're right chaos.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: You can see it.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's swinging at balls and he's taking At
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: this point, he's the he's the he's it's like he's
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: facing Greg Maddox. Every g at mad right now. So
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: once you feel like in your head you've made the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: adjustment and you're not getting the results.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: What, then.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: You start asking yourself a lot of questions that you
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: don't have the answers to why, Because when you're on
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: the offensive side of the game, you have zero control
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: over anything. You have no control over what pitch is
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: being called, what pitch is being thrown, where it's being thrown,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: when it's being thrown, and this spiral of things out
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: of your control can take you off of that process
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: you're trying to execute, which is why Kyl is battling
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: on a nightly basis to get back to that process.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: And I loved his quote here just to give the
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: fans some perspective, he goes, you could go around and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: ask all twenty six guys in this room, and at
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: some point they have been frustrated with the results, and
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: then they start to look at the or look at
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: the results more than the other stuff that actually matters.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: It's human nature. Nobody on that team wants to succeed
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: more than Cal Rawley, especially coming off of the year
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: where he twenty twenty five, where Cal can probably look
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: himself in the mirror and say I reached my full
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: potential that year. But when you look at the macro
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: of a player's career, how many seasons do you think
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: that those players reach their full potential what they mentally
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: believe they're capable of. Very few, very few, Munce twice.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: I can count three seasons in my high school, college,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: minor league, major league career where I felt like I
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: reached my full potential. The other twelve of those years, yeah,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: I was fighting for my life, battling day in and
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: day out. And one thing that I didn't like the
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Cal talked about. He said, well, I've been trying to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: look back at last year and find something that clicked.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: And hitters are tricked into chasing former versions of themselves
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: when they are not that anymore. Cow Mam. I never
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: hit sixty home runs again. He made his sixty five
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: home runs. Nobody knows, but for me, if you're looking
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: in the rear view mirror, you're spending a lot of time,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: just a little bit just sad because you looking at
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: your former version of yourself saying, man, why can't I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: be that? And if you look too far ahead, then
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: you get a little anxious of all the things that
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: gaps in between right here and there where you're trying
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: to get to, instead of how do you just stay
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: a little more present? And I trust me, Cal knows this.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: He is working his tail off to become more present
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: excue a daily basis. But there are thirteen games in
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: thirteen days stretch right now, and that's going to be
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of the bats that Cal has an
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: opportunity to succeed or fail the way he's able to
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: control his mindset when he steps in the batter's box
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: to ultimately break this over thirty four to thirty five
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: streak that he's in, maybe thirty six now, how did
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: he want to count? Yeah, once he breaks that, the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: clock can reset a little bit for him. But right
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: now he's stepping up to the batter's box with a
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: backpack on with thirty four plus bricks in it and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: trying to catch up to one hundred one hour fastball
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: in the major leagues, and that is a tall task.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we know he's aware, we know he's working
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: at it, and we also know he has the same
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: people in his ear that he had a year ago,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Sitzer and Martinez that led him to his historic season.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: So now it's just about that trigger moment where everything
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: clicks back again. Anybody that's played baseball at any level,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: you don't know when you're gonna come out of a slump.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: I can go back to high school.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: One time I was in the big slump and I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: bunted and the ball landed between four infielders and it
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: was the flukiest hit ever, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I went on a tear. I mean that bunt didn't
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: get my get me going again. So you never know
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: what's gonna trigger it. But I would just ask, as
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Cal, and we're all concerned to a
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: degree about Cal, I mean, you don't have any lack
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: of faith he's going to come out.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Of this right, No, And you won't to know why.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Because I have access to Baseball Reference and I can
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: look at what his entirety of his career looks like.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: And this is someone that has hit you know, twenty
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: seven thirty thirty four homers and sixty home runs over
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: the last four years, and every single season has found
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: a way to hit around two twenty to two fifty.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: He's going to end up and I will go on
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: record and say this right now, he will end up
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: hitting a route between two twenty two thirty. He will
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: end up with twenty five to thirty home runs, and
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: he will end up between seventy five to one hundred rbiyes.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Not a doubt in my mind it'll end up being
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: one of those average seasons for Cal in the six
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: hundred plus at bat spectrum. It might not be the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: sixty home runs season, but what's fresh in all the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: fans of Mines right now in Baseball Baseball's mind, the
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: sixty home run season. So everyone's going to compare him
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: to that. And if that's what's what Cal is doing internally,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: then he's already playing a losing game.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy is Wether's former Mariner and part of our
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: show every week to talk some Mariner baseball great stuff
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: on Cal Riley. Let's talk about a success story so
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: far this year. I mean, I think Luke Rayley was
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: left for dead by a lot of Mariner fans this
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: offseason Ryan, and now all of a sudden, he's your
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: home run.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: Leader, he's your RBI leader.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: He sets the tone really with the hustle that you
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: saw last night be a big part of the game.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: This is a crazy sport, crazy league, and it is
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: amazing who the heroes are from year to year. And
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Luke Rayley should not have been forgotten about because he's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: making a huge impact.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Why. He's mentally tough and he's been through adversity his
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: entire career. He's a D two maybe D three player,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: come out of Lake Erie College, didn't sign for much money,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: was a seventh rounder, was overlooked his entire career coming
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: up with the Dodgers, ended up getting shipped over to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: the Rais And I spent a little bit of time
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: him with him there in camp for spring training in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and you can just tell he was
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: just that Midwestern calm and just really enjoyed the grind
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: at the game and knew that at some point he
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: was going to break through. Probably hadn't shown his full
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: potential yet, right Like a lot of play feel like
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: they probably retire never reached his full potential. But I
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: also know that Luke has gone through some real life
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: transitions of having a baby, getting married, having things maybe
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit more important than baseball become the forward
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: facing focus for him, and the opportunity presented itself this
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: spring training for him to step in. And if you
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: remember watching Luke hit at the end of camp this year,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: I was saying live on the broadcast last week, I said,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: box him up and shipp him to Seattle, because that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: man is ready to go play some baseball. And that's
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: exactly what he's doing this year. He's he is a
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: rare bat in the level of Major League baseball that
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: can change the course of a game with three or
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: four bats, and we saw that in the White Sox
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: game on Friday when he had seven RBIs, he had
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: a grand Slam and a three run homer. There's not
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: many players out there, not just on the Mariners, but
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: in the major leagues that can change the course of
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: a game, and Luke Railey is doing that. And there's
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: also things that Luke Ridley could be doing better, but
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: no one's talking about that. They're talking about the highlights
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: because there's more of those right now than we're seeing of,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: you know, the bad stuff and I love that.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's yet still stuck in a platoon, still
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: gets pinch hit for when the left he comes into
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: the game more often than not. It drives Mariner fans crazy.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: What's a former Major leaguer's thoughts on platoons in general
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: and then specifically our platoons as they stand today?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: They're consistent with it, and quite frankly, the players that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: are being platooned in and out are all pretty consistent
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Major leaguers throughout their career in that type of role.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: The platoon roles have become way more relevant over the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: last five seven years or so. It used to just be,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like a utility guy or so on the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: bench and a couple of backups, but but nowadays it's
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: way more like, Hey, this is what our righty lineup is,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: this is where our lefty lineup is. And we know
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: that the Mariners haven't performed great against left handed pitching
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: this year, and I think a big reason for that
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: is the opportunities to do so. You look at at
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: bats right now for a guy like Connor Joe who
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: hasn't put up all year, and then you also look
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: at someone Rob Refsneider. He's got like fifty eight at
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: bats so far this year compared to one hundred and
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: seventy five or one hundred and eighty two for Julio
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Leon or like, it's a lot less opportunity. I don't
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: think that Luke Raley is thinking externally or vocalizing the
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: frustrations of this like the fans are, because the organization
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: crafted this roster, Luke Raley did not. So they're going
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: to trust what the decision is and also trust the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: players in this roster until it gets to a point
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: of a season where it's been Hey, that's a long
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: enough leash for you. We're gonna have to make a change.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: But early May is not that time.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: All right, last couple of minutes, let's at least talk
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, pitch a little bit about pitching, because
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: that was our primary conversation of topic of conversation last week.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: And you said you're fine with the six man rotation,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to get initially when Bryce
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Miller gets activated from the IL tomorrow. So I trust
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: you haven't changed your mind. You're good with this decision
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: to keep ball six guys in a rotation, at least
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: for the short term.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: I've been reading a lot of articles on this, listening
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: to interviews, and you can hear it in the tone
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: of the answers. There's not a whole lot of certainty
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: and conviction and what is going what the future is
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: gonna hold. And I think they're as an organization is
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: trying to make the next best decision, and during this
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: thirteen game stretch, the next best decision is let's run
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: the six man out there. It's been really nice to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: see Logan Gilbert get hot, Brian Woo looks like himself,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: George Kerbulus like himself, and we know what Emerson Hancock
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: is and has been this season. And I was reading
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: something about how they want to increase the opportunities for
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: those four pitchers, in particular to throw. So after this
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: thirteen game stretch, and after getting Bryce Miller back out there,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: who hasn't thrown more than sixty one pitches in a
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: rehab assignment, what is he capable of doing at the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: major league level, They're gonna have a better understanding after
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: this Wednesday Thursday game one, Miller goes on and then
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Castillo is going to go on Thursday. Of how they
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: move forward. Maybe it's a piggyback. I've heard that thrown around.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is, and I think,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: quite frankly, the Mariners are telling you that they don't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: know what the answer is. Either they're gonna let baseball dude,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to do.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: But you still think Castillo, you still believe that he's
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: got it because I'm seeing a guy that doesn't have
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: the same stuff they're saying differently. Pete Woodworth was just
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: on with us Friday. He says he's the same old rock.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: That's why he's nicknamed the Rock. I'm not sure I'm
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: seeing that.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: What are you seeing from him? I'm seeing flashes of it.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: I think the results are showcasing something that can't be
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: ignored in regards to how often he's walking people. But
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: this is would I would pull Luis Castillo and Munos
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: into a bucket and say they both have struggled to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: find their secondary pitches, and when they feel like they
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: have those weapons, then they can pitch a little bit
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: more aggressively with the fastball because they have the secondary
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: to land first strike, they can locate that slider below
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: the zone. But Munio's and also Castillo haven't had those
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: sliders this season seen flashes from Kessie, but not consistency.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: How well Bryce Miller throws when he comes back, is
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: going to give the Mariners that final push to say, yes,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: this is the direction we're going, or no, we're going
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: to continue to keep these guys healthy for October baseball.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy with us, I got to give you a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: lot of credit because you know, we've only done zoom
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: calls when we had Ryan on and he was not
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: able to make eye contact, and sometimes that throws people
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: off a little bit, not to be able to have
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: the eye contact during a conversation like this. But you
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: were great today, So we'll try to get the cameras fixed.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: I know we prefer that. But nice stuff.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Way to break it down, You didn't get thrown off
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: at all by the weird variable we threw at you today.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: What'd you call me when the show started? A media
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: A media mogul. I think I did something like that. Yeah,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I'm a professional. It's just what I do. You know,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm there now, I'm a season pro. Now, seventeen minutes
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: of experience.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Look at me, Look at me, everyone, look at me, Guys.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: On the radio.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Phenomenal stuff. Nice breakdown. We appreciate it. We'll bug you
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: again next week. All right, I can't wait. All right,
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next though, first time we've ever had this
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: mariner on our radio show, Cooper Chriswell's going to join
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  Speaker 1: All right, it is Chuck and Ashley with you here
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: this morning on a Tuesday, coming off of Mariners win
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: last night, and our next guest played a significant role
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: He pitched a.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Scoreless seventh inning, high leverage situation. Cooper Criswell. I mean,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: how many things have already changed since Cooper Criswell became
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: a Mariner and he has never ever this is also
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: going to change in his life right now. He's never
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: been a guest on the Chuck and Buck radio program,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: but he is now, and so we welcome him to
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: the show. Cooper Chriswell of the Mariners, How are you, sir?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Doing good?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: Chuck? I appreciate you having me on.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for being with us. We
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. I appreciate what you're doing for the Mariners.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: Seemed to be off to a really impressive start thus far.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: How have you settled in with this team?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's been a pretty good start
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: for everyone. Obviously that was we're going to get the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: same role in here soon, but yeah, just kind of
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: diving into their pitching philosophy and really attacking that. Obviously,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's not a secret. Just getting ahead
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: with strike one and attacking his own and obviously not
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: walking guys, And I feel like that's been a huge success,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: not only for me, but for everyone in the on
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: the staff.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I would hope that the reputation is out amongst
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: major League pitchers of how successful the organization has been
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: with pitchers here over the course of the last few years.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: When you got the news that you were.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Going to the Seattle Mariners, what what was your response
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: to that inside your own head? And was there some
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: excitement of being able to play for an organization that
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: really has kind of got its finger on the pulse
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: of developing pitchers right now?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I think my first thoughts for a
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: while that's far from home. And then after that, I,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: like you said, the you know history and how well
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: they are known for their pitching and ability to develop guys.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's never an age where you can't
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: develop and get better at things. And yeah, once I
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  Speaker 3: settled in and you know, seeing like I said the
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  Speaker 3: track record, it was excitement and excited to get out
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  Speaker 3: there to spring training and just more so than anything,
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  Speaker 3: throw in front of everyone and just allow them to
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  Speaker 3: like see what I came in with and then kind
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  Speaker 3: of let them pick my brain a little bit from
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  Speaker 3: there and see, like how I like to pitch guys
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  Speaker 3: and see what they thought that I could add potentially
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  Speaker 3: and or change as far as like pitching ability, pitch
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  Speaker 3: shapes and stuff. So it was good, had a good
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  Speaker 3: screen training and honestly didn't really change too too much
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  Speaker 3: as far as like pitch shapes and stuff, just more
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  Speaker 3: so like really zoning in and attacking the zone with
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  Speaker 3: all four pitches and then recently added a four seam
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  Speaker 3: that we thought would be good too as well. So
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  Speaker 3: that's been pretty fun just to play around with some
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  Speaker 3: and just trying to change hitters eye levels, But mainly
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  Speaker 3: the discussion was just you know, attacking zone and and
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  Speaker 3: trusting all my stuff in the zone and not trying
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  Speaker 3: to nibble on the edges.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper chris Well is with us here on Chuck and
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  Speaker 1: Buck off to a terrific start as a Mariner and
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  Speaker 1: now in what looks to be a complete, you know,
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  Speaker 1: relief role and maybe even some high leverage that you
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  Speaker 1: here going forward. I mean you when in Boston and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and LA your previous stops, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: could You've started some games you've long relieved, you've short relieved,
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  Speaker 1: so when you came here knowing the starting rotation, that
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: the Mariners had. What was your expectation of what role
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  Speaker 1: you might fill for the team, and now where are
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: you mentally with the role you are filling with the team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, coming in to spring, obviously they wanted me to
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  Speaker 3: stay built up as a starter just because obviously, you know,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: never know with injuries and stuff. But obviously we're doing
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  Speaker 3: great as far as that goes right now with the rotation,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like that's credit to our medical staff
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  Speaker 3: and our string staff. You know, they go above and
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  Speaker 3: beyond to keep us on the field, and so going
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  Speaker 3: into that, I obviously knew that would be the case
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  Speaker 3: going into spring, and then from there, I've felt like,
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  Speaker 3: obviously I spring played out and stuff. I was built
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  Speaker 3: up for the long relief role, and I felt like
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  Speaker 3: that's you would rather be built up as a starter
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  Speaker 3: going into that role, and you know, getting some multiple
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  Speaker 3: ups and innings in during spring training. And then obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we had a few hits with Brash and
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: Gabe to the io in the bullpen and felt like
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  Speaker 3: that kind of opened up some more spots in the
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  Speaker 3: high leverage situations. And then you know, just trying to
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: be available for any role. I feel like I made
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: that clear during screen training to Dan and the staff
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  Speaker 3: that you know, I'm available in any role that you
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  Speaker 3: guys need me for. I feel comfortable doing any role.
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  Speaker 3: So just want to do anything I can to help
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  Speaker 3: the team win. And right now, yeah that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: I need some more high leverage situations and then obviously
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: it will be good once we get Crash and Gay
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  Speaker 3: back to have those guys back.
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  Speaker 2: Are you liking it?
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Do you like the juice of coming into a game
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  Speaker 1: like last night and the seventh inning with it being close?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Compare it to the juice of being a starter and
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  Speaker 1: you know, and trying to base your outing on longevity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I feel like it's I try
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  Speaker 3: not to even think too much about it as far
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  Speaker 3: as the situation. I'm just trying to go out there
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  Speaker 3: no matter the situation. Honestly, whether it's a high leverage situation,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: a start or long relief role. When you're just out
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: there eating innings, I feel like it's the same mentality
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: every time, and it's just go out there and you know,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: attack the strike zone and let the defense work. Obviously
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not a huge strikeout guy or anything, but you know,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: keep the try to keep the innings quick and keep
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: the defense active. I feel like every defender loves a
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: pretty quick inning, and that's really the goal. Whenever I
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: got there, no matter.
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  Speaker 1: Criswell as with us, how did you land on number
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight? That's like a hockey number. Why did you
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: choose eighty eight?
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  Speaker 4: So funny story the.
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  Speaker 3: First time in pro ball after with the Angels, you know,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: the draft year whatever, the most guys go a short season,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Well they shut us down meet some of the other
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: pictures shut us down for the rest of that or
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: the short season in twenty eighteen. So twenty nineteen winter
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: screen training, and then went to Inland Empire, who is
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: now obviously a Mariner's affiliate, and the manager was just like, hey,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: jerseys will be hanging up. Just pick whatever numbers you
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: want and make sure you let the club you know,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: and he'll write it down.
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  Speaker 4: So we go in there runs right before.
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  Speaker 3: The first team meeting, and I show up and there
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  Speaker 3: was probably about.
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  Speaker 4: Eight eight to.
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  Speaker 3: Ten numbers left, and one of them was I thought
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  Speaker 3: in my head it was eighty eight, and it was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, some of the minor league numbers are like
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: have the funny like lettering and numbers and stuff. So
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this one looks pretty good, Like
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  Speaker 3: it looks like my size, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: number eighty eight. Well, it turns out it was double
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: Bees for bat Boy. The figure to the club and
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, I want this one, and he informed
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: me it was double Bees for bat Boys. So and
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: then I was always said if I had a chance
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: to get eighty eight, I would get it and that
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  Speaker 3: and it also kind of hand in hand with some
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: of my velo in the past, so I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was just it kind of fit me.
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  Speaker 1: I did not see that coming. I really didn't. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: where how's this going to end up?
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  Speaker 2: And I did not see the bat Boy jersey. I'm
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: a great story, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: So how far is Carrollton, Georgia from Emerson Hancock's hometown
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: in Thomasville, Georgia. And is everyone in Georgia just a
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldog fan or do you root for somebody else
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  Speaker 1: in Carrollton?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: So, first I'm gonna get out there. I'm a huge
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: Alabama fan, so roll on, okay, yeah, and then me
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: and Emerson are about two two and a half hours
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  Speaker 3: from each other, and then he obviously huge bulldog got
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: him and I'm will Cox and then but Carleton is
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: actually closer to Auburn, Alabama and Athens, Georgia, So I
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: would honestly say there's probably more.
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  Speaker 4: I would say it's maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Even, but I would say there's I would say there's
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: more Auburn fans and Carlton than Georgia potentially, but if not,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: pretty close. And then there's a there's a few decent
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: amount of Alabama fans. But my dad said, grown up,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: he only had three cable channels and one of the
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: shows every Saturday was the Paul Beer Bryant Show, and
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: he woke up and washed it and just fell in
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: love with him and them since then, so ever, since
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: we were you know, young and grew up, it was
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: roll Tide, watching the Obama game, cooking out and hanging out.
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  Speaker 4: And then luckily, when I met.
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  Speaker 3: My wife at junior college in Alabama, her and her
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: family are huge Alabama fans too, so it just was
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: a matchmad in heaven.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, perfect, Yeah, his son stayed with his Alabama
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  Speaker 1: Crimson Tide and he became the hardest throwing bat boy ever.
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  Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Everything worked out well, Cooper, Hey, thanks man for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it, Enjoy Seattle, enjoy being a Mariner, and
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: we can't wait to watch you play some more awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it. Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Cooper, Chris Well joining us right here on
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Chucking Buck coming up next. One last thing to close
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