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Success After Multiple Failures · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: We don't have extra protections. You've got to be very
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  Speaker 1: aware and conscious. I take steps to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: I'm safe. If I'm doing a big trip and I'm
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  Speaker 1: by myself, I won't post about it until after the
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  Speaker 1: trip's done. I won't give live updates of where I am.
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  Speaker 1: I got taught that early days from the police who
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  Speaker 1: were like, you need to be really careful and not
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  Speaker 1: give live updates because stalkers could happen. and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to really remote spots with no phone reception. Just be
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  Speaker 1: aware of where you park. I try to park under
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  Speaker 1: lights to make sure that I'm seen. It's interesting because
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  Speaker 1: my partner and my friends are men, and when I
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  Speaker 1: express a few things, like say we're doing a trip
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  Speaker 1: together or whatever, and I'm like, oh, can we not
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  Speaker 1: park here? I want to park up the road. This
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  Speaker 1: is the reason why. They're like, oh, I've never even
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  Speaker 1: thought of that. So there's things that definitely I just–
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  Speaker 1: as women, we're just taught, right? Like if you're walking
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  Speaker 1: at nighttime and you're by yourself, you carry your keys
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  Speaker 1: and you have a key sticking through your finger, right?
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  Speaker 1: In case someone actually can stab them. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there's things as a woman in existence, we've just been
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  Speaker 1: raised as little girls to have all of these tools
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  Speaker 1: in our belt that when I talk to men about that,
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  Speaker 1: like I've never even thought about. I did a post
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  Speaker 1: once where I was like, if you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it was me walking at nighttime through a truck
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  Speaker 1: stop with my keys through my fingers. And the amount
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  Speaker 1: of women who jumped in and a lot of men
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  Speaker 1: were like, I don't understand. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: What is that?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, they actually had no idea
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  Speaker 1: that this is something that our parents taught us as
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  Speaker 1: little girls. So, yeah, just be really– we're just really
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  Speaker 1: more aware. I think I've never really felt unsafe and
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  Speaker 1: if I did, I just kept driving. And I don't–
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  Speaker 1: there's evil out in the world everywhere but I don't
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  Speaker 1: see it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's really good. I just, I wondered, cause I
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  Speaker 2: know like at nighttime, if you have to sleep or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, I wonder if that's just like a
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  Speaker 2: little more daunting if you know you're by yourself and like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some guy might just try to get into
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  Speaker 2: your truck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You just like, I just, a lot of men
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  Speaker 1: will try and park up the road where there's no
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  Speaker 1: trucks or there's no noise. Um, because you know, but
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  Speaker 1: for me, I don't feel that that's a safe option
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  Speaker 1: for me. So I'll park in the busy truck stop
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  Speaker 1: under the lights right next to the building and um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put my, I'll make sure that all my doors
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  Speaker 1: are locked. I will put my seatbelt through the door.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like a second thing so that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's definitely things like that, but I just think that
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  Speaker 1: that's more like, I'm just trying to eliminate risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, because, and like, also when you're walking back to
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  Speaker 1: your truck late at night, just look around you. Is
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  Speaker 1: anyone following you? Is, has anyone noticed you don't draw
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  Speaker 1: too much attention to yourself? Um, things like that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. And it's, yeah. I mean, it's a sad
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  Speaker 2: reality with women in general. I mean, I was just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've had some weird instances myself, but I
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  Speaker 2: remember just being in Boston with my husband on vacation
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  Speaker 2: and these girls just ran up to us and they said,
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  Speaker 2: can you just surround us? Cause this guy's following us
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  Speaker 2: and we can't go anywhere. And so this whole group
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  Speaker 2: of people just huddled around them so that he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find them. And then when he did, and he was–
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was mentally unwell too, you could tell. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't go away. He stood there. But this whole
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  Speaker 2: community just came around and were, like, protecting these girls because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, most of the time it's a guy who's
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  Speaker 2: going after a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's– that society, though, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily a truck thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's just a, like– the sad reality
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  Speaker 1: of where we're at. But, you know, just if you
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  Speaker 1: can create community, especially out in the road, you always
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  Speaker 1: feel protected because you've got, like, all your brothers out
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  Speaker 1: there who kind of have your back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know and you have your phone and
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  Speaker 2: you also are trained and you know, so that's really helpful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, go into bathrooms and have
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  Speaker 1: a look around. Can you see if there's any hidden cameras?
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  Speaker 1: That's something that's always on my mind. Like, is there
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  Speaker 1: hidden cameras in here? Not that I've ever seen it. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think that that's also
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  Speaker 1: just been a thought. Back when I was like 17
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  Speaker 1: at my first job, there was a shower. My girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: and I, we'd go to boxing, then we'd go to
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  Speaker 1: work and we'd have a shower. And one day she
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  Speaker 1: comes and she's rattled. She's like, I think someone was
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  Speaker 1: watching me. And I was like, really? And so I
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  Speaker 1: went into the shower with her the next time and
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  Speaker 1: we stood guard watching the dog. sure enough one of
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  Speaker 1: the mechanics was watching us showering yeah peeping tom yeah
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  Speaker 1: so um crazy that story just came to my mind
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  Speaker 1: um but there's like when you were a girl this
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  Speaker 1: is we we grow up with all these experiences and
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  Speaker 1: it's just normal so then you're just like putting it
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  Speaker 1: into your arsenal of like okay well make sure that
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  Speaker 1: there's no cracks like make sure that like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to like if there's a shower and there's no screen,
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  Speaker 1: put like a towel over it so in case someone
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  Speaker 1: looks through or they can get through, there's another level
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  Speaker 1: of hidden. I've gone to truck stops where I didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel safe going to that bathroom so I didn't shower
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  Speaker 1: at all and I just used wet wipes. But that's
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  Speaker 1: just existence as a woman really. I don't feel, and like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to, sometimes I'd be going
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  Speaker 1: to the quarry late at night and I know that
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  Speaker 1: no one's there and I know that it's a one-way
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  Speaker 1: road so if anyone's going to follow you up there
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  Speaker 1: so I'd call my dad and I'd be like hey
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  Speaker 1: dad can you meet me at the quarry just so
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  Speaker 1: that I've got a second person with me um because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't feel safe going in there by myself but
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  Speaker 1: I think a man would also feel the same like
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  Speaker 1: when I talk to my mates they'd be like yeah
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel safe going in there either um but
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  Speaker 1: we just had to do it so just calling a
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  Speaker 1: buddy um or if you're doing night shift just um
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  Speaker 1: do it in convoy. Just tell that person not, or
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  Speaker 1: you wait for the next truck and then you just
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  Speaker 1: drive in convoy. So you're not ever by yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I think for me, it's just so hard,
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  Speaker 2: particularly if women, and this is not to do with trucking,
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  Speaker 2: but just, you know, if a man is going to
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  Speaker 2: get hurt most of the time, it's just directly, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get hurt. You know what I'm saying? But
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  Speaker 2: for a woman, there's like a process. There's like one
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  Speaker 2: thing they want to do first and then you're dead
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  Speaker 2: or you're taken or whatever. And like that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: That for a woman, I feel like is so hard
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  Speaker 2: that there's that. I don't know. It makes me sad
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  Speaker 2: when I think about it. Cause it's just like a
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  Speaker 2: woman has the things that a woman has that are
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  Speaker 2: beautiful and like compliment her being a woman and differentiate
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  Speaker 2: her from man are the things that can become targets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And sometimes it's just. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's definitely, I worked on a mine site when
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  Speaker 1: I was younger and I was assaulted there. in my
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  Speaker 1: room by someone who like followed me in there and
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  Speaker 1: that was really like an awful experience and then I
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  Speaker 1: felt that I couldn't say anything because I thought that
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  Speaker 1: if I told anyone it would give them reason to
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  Speaker 1: not have me there because I was a liability risk
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  Speaker 1: you know and it took me a long time to
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  Speaker 1: finally tell my manager and try and but then like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want like it was just a It was just, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like in mind science, make sure that no guys follow
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  Speaker 1: you back to your room because they could break in,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. But, like, honestly, like that is just
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  Speaker 1: such a tiny little minute thing. Like typically it's just
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  Speaker 1: been awesome. But I think America's got a lot higher
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  Speaker 1: crime rate towards women than what Australia does. It's not
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  Speaker 1: really something that's in the media much. I think here
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  Speaker 1: it's more so women are actually like it's more so–
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  Speaker 1: domestic abuse um is a huge more of a thing
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  Speaker 1: but like I think random attacks isn't necessarily such a
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  Speaker 1: huge thing in Australia I think it's a lot worse over.
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  Speaker 2: There yeah no you're right maybe I should move to
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  Speaker 2: Australia I don't know America we're America's getting we're having
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  Speaker 2: a lot of issues right now things are really piping
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  Speaker 2: hot over here um lots of conflict um But I
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  Speaker 2: want to just wrap up because I want to be
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  Speaker 2: respectful of your time. I do want to ask you
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  Speaker 2: one last question that I've wondered is, what's the worst
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  Speaker 2: thing someone has said to you because you're a trucker?
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  Speaker 2: And then just to tie it in, what is something
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  Speaker 2: that was really encouraging to you that someone said that
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  Speaker 2: you remembered?
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  Speaker 1: What's the worst thing?
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  Speaker 2: Like what's maybe most hurtful?
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  Speaker 1: The worst thing would just be like trolls online. really
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  Speaker 1: like that would be just the main thing like that
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  Speaker 1: I'm attention seeking or that I'm a liability risk on
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  Speaker 1: the road because I'm short or like you're too short
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  Speaker 1: to be a truck driver I hope your work seizes
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  Speaker 1: and you get fired wow.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like are you texting while you're driving question.
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  Speaker 1: Mark yeah it's like people that take bingo's while driving
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  Speaker 1: of someone else's accident um yeah like to my face
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  Speaker 1: I really can't even think of one thing that people
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  Speaker 1: like said that. If I tell people I'm a truck driver,
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  Speaker 1: they're like more so like, what? That's wicked. And they
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  Speaker 1: want to know more. Like, you don't look like a
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  Speaker 1: truck driver. And you're like, yeah, but I am. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and positive is that I've made a difference
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  Speaker 1: and that I have shown people what's possible or that
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  Speaker 1: I've inspired them or opened their eyes to what's possible
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  Speaker 1: or the fact that I love it when people comment
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  Speaker 1: that they aren't interested in trucks or being a truck driver,
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  Speaker 1: but my videos have opened their eyes. eyes to understand
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  Speaker 1: the industry more. Because, like, it's an industry that's, like,
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  Speaker 1: an essential part of– it's an essential trade, like, essential industry. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I– I think it's more so that I've, like, helped
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. And, like, I love that my book has, like,
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  Speaker 1: is showing kids that they are welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I saw that, which I think it's called,
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  Speaker 2: is that Auntie?
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  Speaker 1: Is that my auntie?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Where they're trying to find their auntie's truck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like aunties coming to visit. And so it's all
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  Speaker 1: about celebrating all the different truck drivers they see during
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  Speaker 1: the day and explaining what the trucks do and the
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  Speaker 1: essential roles they play. Yeah, so it's actually based on
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  Speaker 1: my real-life niece and nephew. Wow. And I love when
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  Speaker 1: they ring me about it. So hopefully that's the first
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  Speaker 1: of many and we can just keep inspiring the next
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  Speaker 1: generation and show them that it's a safe and welcoming
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  Speaker 1: and fun industry and that if they want to join,
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  Speaker 1: they can too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I am so grateful for you. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: taking this time to do this. And also you've helped
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  Speaker 2: me learn a little bit more about trucking. I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: I asked you some of these questions because I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of coming in blind.
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  Speaker 1: You asked me some really thought-provoking questions that I've never
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  Speaker 1: publicly spoken about. And, yeah, it's nice to get asked
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  Speaker 1: questions that make you think. So thank you for that.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope that I didn't make anything seem too
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  Speaker 1: negative because really like my– I'm really positive and I
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  Speaker 1: love my life and what this industry has given me.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope that other people might, even if they
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be truck drivers, maybe open their eyes
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  Speaker 1: to think about who they're sharing the road with as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will. I will totally. You've helped me now.
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  Speaker 2: I hope to be less upset and be like, why
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  Speaker 2: did he do that? And more of like, well, he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to get in and he did give me like
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  Speaker 2: a minute warning, but I just was kind of dawdling.
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  Speaker 2: yeah just hold back because they're slowing you can just
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  Speaker 2: go around once he's in.
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  Speaker 1: Just go like is that traffic lights it's like oh
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  Speaker 1: this truck it's like yeah but you can get around
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  Speaker 1: in two seconds you're not going to save anything by
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  Speaker 1: pulling in front just like this person is on the
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  Speaker 1: road doing a job they've got somewhere to be and
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  Speaker 1: they have a time slot they have to get there
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  Speaker 1: um they're missing their friends they're missing their family they're
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  Speaker 1: sacrificing to get your food on the shelves they're getting
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  Speaker 1: your clothes to the store um you know like The
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  Speaker 1: building supplies to build a house, you know, like everything
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  Speaker 1: in your room right now has got there because of
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  Speaker 1: a chop. So if you can just like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just say thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're not.
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  Speaker 1: Going to hold you up too much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. I'm so grateful. Thank you. Bye.