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- 0:00Speaker 1: Free Epstein and the Core Four. If it wasn't for
- 0:05these women that were working below him and Gilain Maxwell,
- 0:10this operation could have never been what it was. And
- 0:15all of these women are protected under the non prosecution agreement.
- 0:22We're talking about Sarah Kelln Vickers, We're talking about Adriana Ross,
- 0:28we're talking about Leslie Groff, and we're talking about the
- 0:32subject of today's article, Nadia Marsenkova. Now, of all of
- 0:38the Core four members, Nadio Marsonkova is the one that
- 0:43has the most unique story. In my opinion, she was
- 0:47supposedly purchased by Jeffrey Epstein, groomed into his sex slave,
- 0:53and then in turn she became one of the Core Four,
- 0:57one of the recruiters, and in fact an abuser herself. Now,
- 1:05I think her circumstances are a bit different from the
- 1:08other girls, considering how she came into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere.
- 1:12But at the same time, that doesn't mean that you
- 1:16don't get punished for what you have done, especially considering
- 1:21that Nadil Marsonkova stayed so loyal to Jeffrey Epstein after
- 1:25his death. Now, of course I don't want to be
- 1:29too critical of somebody who was groomed from the age of.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Fourteen for this lifestyle.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Right, I'm not capable of looking at a situation like
- 1:38this and knowing the psychology. I'm not a psychologist and
- 1:42I won't even attempt to play one. All I can
- 1:44do is offer my opinion in this situation, and my
- 1:48opinion is if Nadil marson Cova does not play ball
- 1:52with prosecution going forward, then she should be up for
- 1:58the same penalties that the other members of the Core
- 2:01four are inevitably going to get slapped with. If Marsionkova
- 2:06cooperates against the other members of the Core four and
- 2:10Gilain Maxwell, perhaps there can be a discussion about her
- 2:14getting a bit lighter of a sentence. She still has
- 2:18to go to prison, obviously, but a lighter of a
- 2:21sentence might be something in the cards for Martienkova considering
- 2:26her circumstances. So it's a tough situation right with her.
- 2:31I mean, obviously she has to pay the price for
- 2:34what she has done, but we have to be considerate
- 2:38of the circumstances that led there. So let's jump into
- 2:42this article from the Daily Mail and let's see what
- 2:45they think about Nadia Marsonkova this article Daily Mail headline
- 2:51the Model.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Who Flew into the Abyss.
- 2:54Speaker 1: They look so innocent, but behind these new pictures from
- 2:57Jeffrey Epstein's Pedophile Island like dark claims about the beautiful
- 3:01pilot said to be his accomplice. So asked Tom Leonard,
- 3:06was she abused or an abuser? And the author of
- 3:11this piece is Tom Leonard, And that most certainly is
- 3:15the question at hand.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 3:16Speaker 1: We've been debating this but between ourselves for how long now.
- 3:19I know that myself and Lisa and Jen from The
- 3:23Prince in the Pervert podcast have spoken privately about this,
- 3:27and it's one of those tough situations, right. I am
- 3:29certainly not a psychologist. Hell I can't even figure out
- 3:32what's wrong with my own brain, never mind trying to
- 3:35look into somebody else's life and figure out what's wrong
- 3:37with them. But the fact of the matter is, even
- 3:41though she was groomed from a young age, she has
- 3:44had ample chances to come forward since Epstein's death, and
- 3:48she has not done so that is on public record anyway.
- 3:52Perhaps she's working with authorities behind the scenes, but it's
- 3:56a real big black eye for her not coming full
- 4:01within the wake of Epstein's death. Epstein can't hurt her anymore.
- 4:04There's nothing he can do to her anymore. So if
- 4:07she's staying quiet now, it is because she was complicit,
- 4:12and she is that loyal to Jeffrey Epstein, she is
- 4:14that bought in to Jeffrey Epstein, that she's never ever
- 4:19going to give up any information. And I'm not sure
- 4:23which way it's going to go, right, but most certainly
- 4:26I can tell you this, she needs to be indicted
- 4:29and then the court needs to figure it out. A
- 4:34hike through the woods and a pair of friends sitting
- 4:36at a table in the Caribbean sun, it all seems
- 4:40perfectly innocent, although the only man in the photos surrounded
- 4:44as ever by attractive young women is Jeffrey Epstein, And
- 4:49as we now know, nothing to do with Epstein was
- 4:52ever innocent. That is for sure, nothing this guy ever
- 4:56did was innocent. Everything he did or was involved in
- 5:00was a calculated plot to increase his own power and
- 5:03his own standing. For the towering blonde in these newly
- 5:08unearthed pictures is Slovak former model Nadia marson Kova, now
- 5:13a glamorous jet pilot with her own aviation company, but
- 5:17once allegedly one of the billionaire pedophiles most depraved Alkalites.
- 5:23And it's true, right, Nadia Marsonkova was involved in some
- 5:27heavy shit. She was engaged in sexual acts with the
- 5:31girls at Jeffrey Epstein's behest while he took pictures and
- 5:34videotaped all.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Sorts of stuff.
- 5:37Speaker 1: But again, I want to throw the book at this lady, right,
- 5:42I want her in prison for the rest of her life.
- 5:44But I'm trying to be cognizant of what led her there.
- 5:48Before I started researching this case, I would have been
- 5:51throw her underneath the prison, no key, no anything. But
- 5:55it's much more nuanced than that.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Right.
- 5:57Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes into situations like this, and
- 6:01for us giving a layman's a layman's opinion on the
- 6:06situation is fine, Right, this is a big case. Everybody's
- 6:09entitled to their opinions. That's all we have pretty much
- 6:11at this point. But I just don't I don't know.
- 6:15It's one of those tough situations. Often the teenage girls
- 6:21who ministered to the twisted needs of Epstein at his
- 6:23Palm Beach mansion found they weren't always alone with him. Sometimes,
- 6:28they told police they were joined by an Eastern European
- 6:32they believed to be his girlfriend. Epstein would allegedly pay
- 6:36the girls to have sex with marson Kova while he
- 6:39watched and took photos that he later displayed around the house.
- 6:43And this again calls into question all of the people
- 6:46who would go to Epstein's house and then act like
- 6:49they didn't think anything was out.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Of place or weird.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Bitch, if there's pictures of him with all these girls
- 6:57on the walls and displayed prominently throughout the house, how
- 7:00are you gonna tell me that you don't think anything
- 7:02is weird?
- 7:03Speaker 2: Shut up.
- 7:06Speaker 1: At other times, they said marten Kova, then aged around nineteen,
- 7:10would pressure them to have sex with her and the
- 7:13billionaire pedophile, sometimes in Orgies. British accuser Sarah Ransom said
- 7:19she once had sex with Marsenkova and Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's
- 7:24high powered lawyer in New York, although he denies it.
- 7:28And again there's another reference to dirty dirsh mister, I
- 7:32kept my underpants on the legend of the Martha Vineyards
- 7:36Naked Volleyball Championship League. How many times is this idiot
- 7:41going to be referenced, how many times are girls going
- 7:44to talk about Alan Dershowitz and his involvement. Oh, we
- 7:50know that dirsty old dirsh dirsh is going to make
- 7:52himself the victim like usual. Oh we know he's going
- 7:55to sue like a maniac. But the fact remains, you're
- 7:59an old, scraggly, wrinkley ass has not answered one single question.
- 8:09Epstein reportedly told some of his survivors Marsenkova was his
- 8:13sex slave after he had bought her, age fourteen, from
- 8:17her parents in Eastern Europe.
- 8:19Speaker 2: So there's the rub, right.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone who has compassion for a
- 8:25situation like this and people in a situation like this
- 8:28can't be torn about mars and Kova. Of course we
- 8:31want her punished, but at the same time I feel
- 8:33super bad about a kid who is sold to someone
- 8:36like Epstein at fourteen years old. That has to be
- 8:39one traumatizing experience. So again, I think that this is
- 8:47a situation where we need to have the courts figure
- 8:50this out big time. Of course, we can speculate about it,
- 8:53we can all have our opinions about it. That's what's happened,
- 8:55That's what happens in cases like this. Like I always say,
- 8:59when we're here on the p together, it's like we're
- 9:01all at work around the water cooler shooting the shit.
- 9:05And marsien Kova, it's a very hot button issue with
- 9:11a lot of people who cover this case. People are
- 9:14really torn about it. She certainly showed a slavish devotion
- 9:20when she visited him sixty seven times during the year.
- 9:23He's spent behind bars in Florida in two thousand and
- 9:26eight for procuring a minor for prostitution. And again, marson
- 9:31Kova cannot just be let off by her circumstances, right,
- 9:36That's not definitely not what I'm talking about. She has
- 9:39to face some criminal penalty here because the girls that
- 9:43she abused, well, they have to get their justice, and
- 9:49if Marsenkova was involved in that abuse, then she has
- 9:53to pay the price. Marton Kova, now thirty four year
- 10:00old pilot calling herself Global Girl on social media, has
- 10:04once more been dragged into the Epstein scandal after the
- 10:07new photographs taken on his private island were revealed. Also
- 10:11in the spotlight is Sarah Kellen, another of Epstein's young
- 10:15female female Alkalites and the alleged deputy to Gilaine Maxwell,
- 10:20currently remanded in custody in a New York jail, accused
- 10:23of recruiting girls as young as fourteen for him. Now.
- 10:27Sarah Kellen, on the other hand, I think that she
- 10:30should be treated exactly like Gilayne Maxwell. I'm not even
- 10:33bullshitting about that. I think that she should have her
- 10:36house raided, her door kicked in, she should be dragged
- 10:39out like the criminal that I think that she is,
- 10:43and she should face trial for what she has done.
- 10:46This lady, Sarah Kellen Vickers has been able to dip,
- 10:50duck and dodge away from the spotlight for way too long.
- 10:54She's living that high life, right, still living that high
- 10:57life married to her ex NASCAR husband been Brian Vickers,
- 11:01who is also a partner at Crown Predator Holdings. Pretty
- 11:07ironic name, right, and she is absolutely one of the
- 11:11worst people in this whole entire situation in my opinion.
- 11:17Kellen and marson Kova, both of whom have changed their
- 11:20names since the scandal broke, are assumed to be among
- 11:23the next targets of New York prosecutors who have been
- 11:26assured by dozens of Epstein's survivors that he certainly didn't
- 11:30act alone in his sex crimes. US Attorney General William
- 11:34Barr has warned his alleged accomplices they should not rest easy,
- 11:39and I think this is a tell in the article
- 11:40here right they are definitely the next targets of the prosecution.
- 11:45In my opinion, the Core four better not be sleeping
- 11:48comfortably because it's coming. The more articles you see, the
- 11:53more you hear people talking about these girls, the quicker
- 11:57prosecutors are going to round them up and bring them in.
- 12:01I mean, I don't have any inside information here about
- 12:05what I'm about to say, but in my opinion, there
- 12:08is no way that all of these girls do not
- 12:12have sealed indictments with that Grand Jerry right now. In
- 12:15my opinion, the Jerry is going to return a bunch
- 12:20of indictments and we will see all the members of
- 12:23the Core Four at the very least get indicted for
- 12:26their role in Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. Marson Cova long
- 12:33ago established herself as one of Epstein's most devoted female followers.
- 12:39They're very close, and Epstein insider told a local newspaper
- 12:43when Marsonkva bombarded him with visits in his Florida prison
- 12:46twelve years ago. She went mostly on weekends. I guess
- 12:50you can call her a squeeze. Prison officials said the
- 12:53visits were monitored and there was no alone time. Yeah, okay,
- 12:58they do such a good job of monitoring. And Jeffrey Epstein,
- 13:02there's no way that he could have had any alone
- 13:04time with Marsionkova. Please give me a break. Marton Kova
- 13:10was certainly close to Epstein, according to a witness who
- 13:13was there when the newly uncovered undated photos were taken.
- 13:18They show mars and Kova hiking with Epstein and sitting
- 13:21beside him as draped in a dressing gown. He conducts
- 13:25business at his estate on Little Saint James in the
- 13:28US Virgin Islands. Conducts business Huh yeah, you mean money laundering,
- 13:33hiding some dough somewhere, washing some money for one of
- 13:36his boys, one of his gangster ass bangster homies. The
- 13:42insider said, Nadia and Jeffrey seemed to really love each other.
- 13:45It was as if they had a romantic relationship. They
- 13:48were affectionate to each other, often holding hands. Yeah, well,
- 13:52I don't doubt it. Jeffrey Epstein had to hold over
- 13:55all of these people. For whatever reason, he was like
- 13:58their guru. He was there guru, and they believed in
- 14:02everything he was about. Not merely because she towered over
- 14:07all the others, including the undersized Epstein, Marsenkova always stood
- 14:12out as the most fascinating and disturbing of the financier
- 14:17pedophiles alleged female accomplices, except perhaps Maxwell herself. And I
- 14:24don't know about the most interesting of the accomplices, right,
- 14:26but the most heartbreaking story, the most heart wrenching story
- 14:31sold at fourteen years old. I can't even imagine what
- 14:34that would be like. But again, that doesn't give you
- 14:41the leeway to go about and abuse people in turn.
- 14:46I'm sorry, but that does not give you cover to
- 14:49do that. For if the claims are true about how
- 14:53she came into his perverted orbit, they bear out allegations
- 14:57that Epstein was involved in an international sex t trafficking
- 15:00ring which brought young girls from poor countries to the
- 15:04US under the guise of recruiting them as models. And
- 15:08now again speculation on my part, but what role did
- 15:12John Luke Brunel play in bringing Nadia Marsenkova to America?
- 15:17We know about the other girls he sent over to
- 15:19Jeffrey Epstein, the Russians, the French girls. Why would we
- 15:23think that Jean Luke Brunel was not involved in the
- 15:27bringing of Marsenkova to Jeffrey Epstein. I think that it's
- 15:33something worth exploring. Marsonkova, who has changed your name to Marsinko,
- 15:42has steadfastly refused to comment on Epstein or the claims
- 15:45against him. See, and that's where the problem lies for me.
- 15:49That's where I lose all compassion I have for her,
- 15:53or empathy I have for her situation that letter here,
- 15:56and say to myself, well, she's made her choice, she's
- 15:59decided who she's going to defend till the very end,
- 16:03so she has to be treated like the other Core four. However,
- 16:09she insists she was a victim of Epstein, and her
- 16:11lawyers yesterday told the Mail Nadio wishes to express her
- 16:15compassion and support for her fellow survivors who also fell
- 16:20prey to Jeffrey Epstein's predatory, abusive behavior.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:24Speaker 1: I don't think that that statement there is going to
- 16:26sit well with a lot of the survivors. Now, obviously
- 16:29I don't speak for anybody but myself. Like I always say,
- 16:32you know me and my beard, we come as a
- 16:34package deal and it's just us, nobody else. But I
- 16:38highly doubt that the survivors are going to take kindly
- 16:41to marsen Kova trying to put herself in their realm
- 16:46as a survivor. Considering Marsenkova was involved in some of
- 16:50their abuse, any claim by her to have been a
- 16:54complete innocent is contradicted by many, not least US prosecutors.
- 17:00They named her, Kellen and two other young female Epstein
- 17:03associates as potential co conspirators who were granted immunity from
- 17:08prosecution for past crimes under a controversial two thousand and
- 17:13seven deal that saw Epstein serve just a year in prison.
- 17:18And you see, folks, here's what I talk about when
- 17:20I say here on this podcast, we stick to the
- 17:23people who have been named in these court documents for
- 17:25the most part. Now, don't get me wrong, we talk
- 17:28about some of the enablers as well. But people make
- 17:31a lot of big leaps in this case, and I
- 17:32think it doesn't do the case or the survivors any good.
- 17:37When people are out in La La Land here all
- 17:40of this stuff we're talking about is documented by the
- 17:45survivors or witnesses or people who were involved, And I
- 17:49think that that's what we should stick to when we're
- 17:52covering this case if we want to see it pursued correctly.
- 17:58Because I'll tell you what, there is a lot of
- 18:01disinformation out there right now, and there are a lot
- 18:04of people coming out of the woodwork who all of
- 18:07a sudden seem to be defending people like Dershowitz. How
- 18:13did the girl born in the former Czechoslovakia end up
- 18:16as a key figure in the Epstein scandal? Although her
- 18:19father was reportedly has reportedly rejected claims that he and
- 18:23his wife ever sold her to Epstein, record show she
- 18:26came to the US in two thousand, when she would
- 18:29have been fourteen or fifteen. Now, I don't know about you, folks,
- 18:34and I don't have children, right, so maybe I'm not
- 18:36the best person to speak on this, but there is
- 18:38zero chance I'd be sending my fourteen or fifteen year
- 18:41old girl from Slovakia to America without my supervision for
- 18:47any reason. It is claimed that she reached New York
- 18:51through a model agency MC two that Epstein had helped
- 18:55set up in New York and Miami.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
- 18:58Speaker 1: That just goes to right there, John Luke Brunell connection, right,
- 19:01But I want to go deeper. I want to go deeper.
- 19:05John Luke Brunell obviously facilitated this transaction. And if she
- 19:11was fourteen or fifteen and she was sold to Jeffrey
- 19:13Epstein at that age by Jean Luke Brunell, facilitated by
- 19:16her parents, well, Jean Luke Brunell, that's just another tie
- 19:20that ties him here in America criminally to Jeffrey Epstein.
- 19:24So this dude needs to be black bagged. I would
- 19:28like to see some sort of group American authorities, be
- 19:40it Inner pol whoever it may be, snatch this dude
- 19:43off the street, Jean Luke Brunell and bring him to
- 19:45face justice like the Israelis did with the people in Munich,
- 19:49except obviously not kill them. The agency's bookkeeper insisted marson
- 19:56Cova never actually did any modeling, but was one of
- 19:59various girl, some as young as thirteen, who lived in
- 20:03flats controlled by Epstein close to his home in Manhattan's
- 20:06Upper East Side, Virginia Roberts, Prince Andrew's accuser, claimed in
- 20:11twenty fourteen court papers. The arrangement was a cover for
- 20:15sex trafficking, as most of the girls came from poor
- 20:18countries and were lured to the US by false promises
- 20:21of making good money as models. And this is well
- 20:25documented at this point by several sources. All of those
- 20:28girls that were in that building on East sixty sixth
- 20:30Street have talked about it as well. They'd come over
- 20:33and they wouldn't have jobs as models, they'd be farmed
- 20:35out as escorts. And the fact that Jeffrey Epstein's brother
- 20:42also had part of that building or as the alleged
- 20:45owner of that building, he's another one that needs to
- 20:48be questioned in all of this. If you own a building,
- 20:51or you own a bunch of units in a building
- 20:53and they're being used to house human trafficking victims, yeah,
- 20:57you probably have a few questions that need to be
- 21:00as answered. Martian Kova became a full time member of
- 21:05the Epstein household, although her official function wasn't clear. What
- 21:11she certainly did do, however, was fly with Epstein a lot. Now,
- 21:17even if marten Kova wasn't accused of abusing Jeffrey Epstein's survivors,
- 21:23even if Martienkova wasn't accused of being involved. Her being
- 21:27on the plane a lot would mean that she at
- 21:30least saw something right. So you would think, as a
- 21:34decent human being that you would come forward with what
- 21:36you have saw what you've seen, but she has not
- 21:39done that. So again it makes me wonder the multi
- 21:45millionaire kept the fleet of planes, the flagship being the
- 21:48notorious Lolita Express, luxuriously customized Boeing seven twenty seven. One
- 21:55Palm Beach girl told police she was sixteen when she
- 21:58made the first of hundreds of trips to Epstein's mansion,
- 22:02breaking down in tears as she described how she often
- 22:06had sex with Marsonkova. Epstein would allegedly watch and choreograph
- 22:11her activities. In the past decade or so, marson Kova
- 22:15has disappeared from public view. And again, all of these
- 22:19stories of these little girls who were forced to have
- 22:22sex with marson Kova for Jeffrey Epstein's pleasure make me
- 22:26literally ill after reading about this kind of shit, It
- 22:31just it sickens me. Like bleach Bath City. Since the
- 22:39two thousand and eight case, she has obtained a pilot's license,
- 22:43and she now boasts an impressive social media following under
- 22:47the Instagram handle fly Global Girl. In twenty fifteen, it
- 22:52was revealed that marson Kova and Kellen were running companies
- 22:56from a Manhattan property owned by Epstein's brother Mark. Again,
- 23:00Mark's name brought up. Is he going to be indicted?
- 23:02Is he one of the sealed indictments? His finances are
- 23:05tied to Epstein's. And if we're talking about this from
- 23:08a financial perspective, and we're talking about this from a
- 23:13a Rico type situation, well yeah, Mark most certainly must
- 23:16be spoken with. It was at his sixty sixth Street
- 23:21address that Marsonkova set up an aviation company, av A Loop.
- 23:25She says she is a license She has licensed to
- 23:28fly multi engine aircraft and Gulfstream business jets, as well
- 23:32as being an aerobatic pilot and flight instructor. Well haven't
- 23:36you had a great life, Marsonkova. Meanwhile, the survivors, on
- 23:40the other hand, have had to claw, scratch, bite and
- 23:44fight to get anyone to listen to them. You could
- 23:47have came out a long time ago, Naudia and put
- 23:51a stamp on things, but instead you haven't done that. Lightheartedly,
- 23:57her website claims she switched from model to flying because
- 24:01she was ready for longer runways. Martian Cova may soon
- 24:06be coming down to earth with a bump. If she
- 24:09becomes the next Epstein associate to face her day in court,
- 24:13I'll tell you what she is. Definitely, she's definitely going
- 24:16to have to face her day in court. The whole core,
- 24:19for all of them, there's no chance any of them
- 24:21are skating out on this. They're all going to have
- 24:25to speak to investigators. Perhaps they're all indicted already and
- 24:28we don't know. But what I can tell you is
- 24:32this Nadio marson Kova is running out of time to
- 24:37come forward and do the right thing in this case.
- 24:39If she does not help the authorities, if she does
- 24:43not come forward and rat out the other members of
- 24:46the Core four, then she is in line to receive
- 24:50the same penalties as the rest of them. If you'd
- 24:54like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
- 24:56Kapuci at protonmetl dot com. That's Bobby I. C ap
- 25:00u Cci at Protonmeil dot com. You can also find
- 25:05me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore capu Cci. All of
- 25:10the links that go with this episode can be found
- 25:13in the description box. All right, what's up, everyone, and
- 25:17welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
- 25:21gonna talk a little bit more about Nadia Marsenkova, and
- 25:26we're gonna talk about how she ended up in Jeffrey
- 25:30Epstein's clutches. Now, unlike the other members of his Core four,
- 25:36Nadia was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere when she was
- 25:42just a child, and she was forced to live with
- 25:46Epstein as in his own words, his Yugoslavian sex slave.
- 25:52So when we talk about all of the victims and
- 25:56survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, I have to tell you, the
- 26:01more you look into Nadia Marsenkova's story, the more you
- 26:05look into her past and the way that she came
- 26:09into even being part of this story. I mean, it's
- 26:13almost uni imaginable. A young girl sold to a guy
- 26:18like Jeffrey Epstein and then lives with him for all
- 26:21of these years, has all of this stuff normalized and
- 26:26told that this is the way that people live in
- 26:28America or the upper crust or whatever it is. And
- 26:33then not only that, but to use her in your
- 26:37plans and your plots to molest other girls, It just
- 26:41goes to a whole different level. So I wanted to
- 26:45touch on this real quick and talk about Nadia Marsonkova
- 26:50and just exactly how she came to be in the
- 26:54clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. This article was published by The
- 27:00Daily Mail and it was originally published on July twenty
- 27:05eighth of two thy and nineteen. The author is Chris Spargo. Well,
- 27:11that shouldn't shock us. Chris has done great work here,
- 27:14so it doesn't shock me to see him once again
- 27:16doing great work as far as covering this story and
- 27:19trying to nail down the fact from the fiction, because really,
- 27:24there is just too many snake oil salesman when it
- 27:27comes to this story, too many people that have motivations
- 27:31that are ridiculous when the reality is it should all
- 27:38be about finding the truth, figuring out what's what here.
- 27:42And as far as people who have been writing about this,
- 27:45Chris Spargo has been on top of it obviously now
- 27:49for several years. So let's see what he has to say.
- 27:53The foreign born model, whom many have identified as an
- 27:56accomplice in procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein, is just
- 28:01as much a victim of the serial pedophile according to
- 28:05official reports, And when I first started covering this story,
- 28:09I thought that marson Kova was in on it as well.
- 28:12We didn't have all of the information out to us, right,
- 28:15I didn't know that she was sold as a child
- 28:18to Epstein, and then when she was engaging in some
- 28:21of these different sexual acts that he forced her into,
- 28:24she was underage. So she was certainly a victim of
- 28:28Jeffrey Epstein, just like the rest of these girls. And
- 28:32you want to talk about Stockholm syndrome, you want to
- 28:34talk about someone who had this normalized and was dealing
- 28:38with sirius trauma, Well, I present to you Nadia Marsenkova.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Incident.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Reports from the Palm Beach Police Departments two thousand and
- 28:48five investigation that were obtained by daily mail dot Com
- 28:53claim that Epstein told at least one underage survivor that
- 28:58Nadia marson Kova was his Yugoslavian sex slave. And we've
- 29:03heard that from multiple sources. Multiple survivors have talked about that,
- 29:09and I would love to hear Nadia's side of this story.
- 29:13She's never went in public, she's never talked about her story,
- 29:18and I'm guessing there's a lot of things happening behind
- 29:20the scenes that prevents her from doing so. But I
- 29:25think that if anyone should get a platform at some
- 29:30point to speak about what went on here, and if
- 29:33it's ever possible, I think that she should be given
- 29:37the time to talk about her experience as well, because
- 29:41I believe that it will add more context to what
- 29:44went on and also help explain how it all occurred.
- 29:50Multiple girls also state that Epstein made them engage in
- 29:53sexual acts with marsen Kova, which eventually turned into threesomes
- 29:58with both himself and Mama. And when you're first hearing
- 30:01about this story and you hear about that, and you
- 30:04look at Nadia, she's a grown woman. Now obviously if
- 30:08you don't have all of the information, well, yeah, you
- 30:11think she's definitely part of it, right, one hundred percent.
- 30:17Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia, wrote
- 30:20detective Joseph Rikari. After his interview with one of the survivors,
- 30:25Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to
- 30:28be his Yugoslavian sex slave. So that's how Epstein looked
- 30:32at people. Oh well, let's call her my Yugoslavian sex slave.
- 30:38This is just a little girl. And can you imagine
- 30:41being bought What kind of trauma you must be suffering
- 30:44from your parents sold you to this guy. And when
- 30:48we talk about what's going on in Afghanistan, we see
- 30:50this quite too often these days. People who can't afford
- 30:55to feed their children, well, they sell them. I know
- 30:59that sounds crazy as hell to most of you out
- 31:01there listening, especially parents, but this is the reality that
- 31:06people face in the developing world. We have it easy, folks,
- 31:09as hard as we have it, as rough as it is,
- 31:12as hard as it is to make ends meet. Sometimes
- 31:15just think how bad people have it when they're selling
- 31:18their children to pieces of shit like Jeffrey Epstein and
- 31:23Jean Luke Brunel. Marsenkova would have been underage during most
- 31:30of the alleged incidents described by the survivors to detective Racari.
- 31:36She was no older than sixteen when she and another
- 31:39age another underage survivor, were allegedly forced to stimulate each
- 31:43other manually orally and with toys while Epstein watched them,
- 31:48that watched them, and pleasured himself in the bed. The
- 31:51same unnamed girl broke down in tears while revealing she
- 31:55had been to Epstein's Palm Beach mansion hundreds of times
- 31:59in a two year a peer and made thousands of dollars. So, look,
- 32:04it's rather obvious that Marsenkova is a victim of Epstein
- 32:11and now as a survivor, and I think she should probably
- 32:14be cast in that light now. When Epstein was arrested
- 32:18and she kept going to see him in prison, I'd
- 32:21like to get some answers for that, for sure, because
- 32:23at some point you have to accept the responsibility when
- 32:26you're an adult right for your actions, no matter your childhood,
- 32:31no matter your circumstances, you have to accept some responsibility
- 32:35for your life. So I really would love to hear
- 32:39her side of the story, because we have never ever
- 32:42heard from her. She's never had a interview, she's never
- 32:46been in court to be deposed, none of that stuff.
- 32:49We also know that she is protected under that non
- 32:53prosecution agreement, but if she wasn't underage when this was occurring,
- 32:58she doesn't need to be protected by that non prosecution
- 33:01agreement because she was a child who was coerced into
- 33:05this behavior. So this opens up a whole different legal
- 33:09can of worms.
- 33:10Speaker 2: For sure.
- 33:11Speaker 1: At first, she was paid extra to perform an oral
- 33:14sex act on marson Kova. Then each week things continued
- 33:18to escalate, states the incident report. She said that she
- 33:22was adamant that no vaginal penetration would occur with Epstein,
- 33:26but then that too did occur while she was underage.
- 33:30She told detective Rakari. On one occasion, the date of
- 33:33which he could not recall, Epstein allegedly raped that victim
- 33:38after she and Marsenkova had engaged in an oral sex
- 33:42act to completion. So Epstein was abusing Nadia, obviously and
- 33:49using her to spur along his own sick and twisted fantasies.
- 33:56And this wasn't happening, you know every once in a while,
- 34:00with Nadia being basically under his thumb, I'm sure that
- 34:04she was at his beck and call to be abused
- 34:07all the time. She said, her head was being held
- 34:12against the bed forcibly, she screamed no, and Epstein stops,
- 34:16said the report. Soon after this, the survivor said that
- 34:20Epstein purchased a Dodge neon blue in color for her
- 34:24personal use. Of course he did, because that's what he
- 34:27always did, right whenever he thought that he might have
- 34:30went too far or that somebody might dime him out.
- 34:34There was always a couple of bucks to be spread around,
- 34:37and that was part of the plan. When you have
- 34:39girls who have nothing, people who are poor, and you
- 34:41have a couple of bucks to spread around, it makes
- 34:44your abuse a little bit easier for you to get
- 34:47away with because they're more hesitant to go and tell
- 34:51on you or bring you to the authorities because they
- 34:53know how powerful you are, so it just enables the
- 34:58cycle of abuse to cont you. Another woman also detailed
- 35:03a similar progression of events, starting with massages and leading
- 35:07into sexual encounters with marson Kova. He used Nadia as
- 35:13nothing more than another instrument for his sexual desires, for
- 35:17his abuse, and for his rape. She might as well
- 35:21have been an inanimate object to Epstein and Maxwell, as
- 35:25opposed to a human being. That survivor, who was of
- 35:30age during all the visits to the house as she
- 35:33first met Epstein at eighteen, told detective Racari she also
- 35:37performed oral sex ACX on Epstein, but refused his directive
- 35:41to bring around other young girls. She also claimed that
- 35:47she was once directed to perform a manual sex act
- 35:50on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marsenkova. So
- 35:54he definitely was an exhibitionist, He was a voyeur, he
- 35:57was all of it. While that stuff is not a
- 36:02issue unto itself, when you add it all together with
- 36:06the other proclivities that Jeffrey Epstein exhibited, you have yourselves
- 36:11one hell of a sexual predator, folks. Another survivor who
- 36:17told police she was having sexual relations with marson Kova
- 36:21at sixteen, said that Epstein took pictures of the two
- 36:24and actually displayed them around his home. So again, where's
- 36:29the hard drive that Richard Kahan took. Where are all
- 36:33of the things he took from that house where these
- 36:37pictures contained there? And if so, are the authorities ever
- 36:40going to open up a case and get access to this.
- 36:47These incidents make it clear that marson Kova was also
- 36:50a victim of Epstein. She would later move into one
- 36:54of more of a procurement role, according to court documents,
- 36:57and eventually cut ties with Epstein. She moved into a
- 37:01procurement role when she was too old for him. That's
- 37:04just the coolheart reality of it. When she was too
- 37:06old for him, she outlived her usefulness as far as
- 37:09someone he was attracted to. So her job now was
- 37:13to procure different girls, procure other girls. And we know
- 37:16that everything has been normalized to her up to this point.
- 37:19She thinks, she thinks this is regular behavior. Marsenkova was
- 37:26granted immunity as part of Epstein's two thousand and eight deal,
- 37:30despite the fact that no charges would likely have been
- 37:33filed against her based on the police investigation. She was
- 37:37actually born in the former Czechoslovakia, just four years before
- 37:41the Velvet Revolution, which precipitated the nonviolent transition of power
- 37:46in the country. At some point, she and her family
- 37:49did move to Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia, in recent years, she
- 37:53has changed her surname to the Americanized version of her name,
- 37:58going by Naudia. So look, I would love beyond anything
- 38:03to have a talk with Nadiam Marsonkova a few hours,
- 38:07sit down with her, hear her story, and set the
- 38:10record straight once and for all. But the legal hurdles
- 38:15that are in the way of someone being able to
- 38:17do that, I'm sure are many, and I'm sure that
- 38:20she doesn't want to, you know, shake the hornet's nest
- 38:24if you will. But one thing to that I can
- 38:28see clearly anyway, and for me anyway, is that this
- 38:31lady is not a abuser. She is somebody who is
- 38:37victimized by Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, someone who was
- 38:41sold as a child, and someone whose story one day
- 38:47certainly should be told. If you'd like to contact me,
- 38:51you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at Protonmeil dot com.
- 38:54That's bo bb Y c ap U c Ci at
- 38:59Proton You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby
- 39:04Underscore c ap Ucci. The links that we discussed can
- 39:09be found in the description box. All right, everybody, I'll
- 39:12be back later on. I hope that everybody's having a
- 39:16great day. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the
- 39:19Epstein Chronicles.
- 39:22Speaker 2: In this episode, we're going to talk.
- 39:23Speaker 1: A little bit more about Nadia marsen Kova and we're
- 39:27going to talk about how she ended up in Jeffrey
- 39:31Epstein's clutches. Now, unlike the other members of his Core four,
- 39:37Nadia was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere when she was
- 39:43just a child, and she was forced to live with
- 39:47Epstein as in his own words, his Yugoslavian sex slave.
- 39:53Speaker 2: So when we talk about.
- 39:55Speaker 1: All of the victims, and survivors of Jeffrey Epstein. I
- 40:01have to tell you, the more you look into Nadia
- 40:04Marsenkova's story, the more you look into her past and
- 40:09the way that she came into even being part of
- 40:12this story. I mean, it's almost uni imaginable. A young
- 40:18girl sold to a guy like Jeffrey Epstein and then
- 40:21lives with him for all of these years, has all
- 40:24of this stuff normalized and told that this is the
- 40:28way that people live in America or the upper crust
- 40:32or whatever it is. And then not only that, but
- 40:37to use her in your plans and your plots to
- 40:40molest other girls, It just goes to a whole different level.
- 40:45So I wanted to touch on this real quick and
- 40:48talk about Nadia Marsonkova and just exactly how she came
- 40:54to be in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. This article
- 40:59was published by The Daily Mail and it was originally
- 41:04published on July twenty eighth of two thy and nineteen.
- 41:09The author is Chris Spargo. Well, that shouldn't shock us.
- 41:13Chris has done great work here, so it doesn't shock
- 41:16me to see him once again doing great work as
- 41:19far as covering this story and trying to nail down
- 41:22the fact from the fiction, because really, there is just
- 41:26too many snake oil salesmen when it comes to this story,
- 41:30too many people that have motivations that are ridiculous when
- 41:37the reality is it should all be about finding the truth,
- 41:41figuring out what's what here. And as far as people
- 41:45who have been writing about this, Chris Spargo has been
- 41:48on top of it obviously now for several years. So
- 41:52let's see what he has to say. The foreign born model,
- 41:56whom many have identified as an accomplice in procuring underage
- 42:00girls for Jeffrey Epstein, is just as much a victim
- 42:04of the serial pedophile according to official reports. And when
- 42:09I first started covering this story, I thought that marson
- 42:11Kova was in on it as well. We didn't have
- 42:14all of the information out to us, right, I didn't
- 42:17know that she was sold as a child to Epstein,
- 42:20and then when she was engaging in some of these
- 42:23different sexual acts that he forced her into, she was underage.
- 42:27So she was certainly a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, just
- 42:31like the rest of these girls. And you want to
- 42:33talk about Stockholm syndrome, you want to talk about someone
- 42:37who had this normalized and was dealing with Sirius trauma.
- 42:41Speaker 2: Well, I present to you Nadia Marsenkova incident.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Reports from the Palm Beach Police Departments two thousand and
- 42:49five investigation that were obtained by Daily mail dot Com
- 42:54claim that Epstein told at least one underage survivor that
- 42:59Nadia arsen Kova was his Yugoslavian sex slave. And we've
- 43:04heard that from multiple sources. Multiple survivors have talked about that,
- 43:10and I would love to hear Nadia's side of this story.
- 43:14She's never went in public, she's never talked about her story,
- 43:19and I'm guessing there's a lot of things happening behind
- 43:22the scenes that prevents her from doing so. But I
- 43:27think that if anyone should get a platform at some
- 43:31point to speak about what went on here, and if
- 43:34it's ever possible, I think that she should be given
- 43:39the time to talk about her experience as well, because
- 43:42I believe that it will add more context to what
- 43:45went on and also help explain how it all occurred.
- 43:51Multiple girls also stayed that Epstein made them engage in
- 43:55sexual acts with marsen Kova, which eventually turned into threesomes
- 43:59with both themsels self and the model. And when you're
- 44:02first hearing about this story, and you hear about that,
- 44:05and you look at Nadia, she's a grown woman. Now
- 44:07obviously if you don't have all of the information, well yeah,
- 44:12you think she's definitely part of it, right, one hundred percent.
- 44:18Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia, wrote
- 44:22Detective Joseph Ricari. After his interview with one of the survivors,
- 44:26Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to
- 44:29be his Yugoslavian sex slave. So that's how Epstein looked
- 44:33at people. Oh well, let's call her my Yugoslavian sex slave.
- 44:39This is just a little girl. And can you imagine
- 44:42being bought? What kind of trauma you must be suffering
- 44:46from your parents sold you to this guy. And when
- 44:49we talk about what's going on in Afghanistan, we see
- 44:52this quite too often these days. People who can't afford
- 44:57to feed their children, well they sell them. I know
- 45:00that sounds crazy as hell to most of you out
- 45:03there listening, especially parents, but this is the reality that
- 45:07people face in the developing world. We have it easy, folks,
- 45:11as hard as we have it, as rough as it is,
- 45:13as hard as it is to make ends meet. Sometimes,
- 45:17just think how bad people have it when they're selling
- 45:19their children to pieces of shit like Jeffrey Epstein and
- 45:24Jean Luke Brunel. Marsenkova would have been underage during most
- 45:31of the alleged incidents described by the survivors to Detective Ricari.
- 45:37She was no older than sixteen when she and another
- 45:40age another underage survivor were allegedly forced to stimulate each
- 45:44other manually orally and with toys while Epstein watched them,
- 45:49that watched them, and pleasured himself in the bed. The
- 45:52same unnamed girl broke down in tears while revealing she
- 45:56had been to Epstein's Palm Beach mansion hundreds of time
- 46:00in a two year period and made thousands of dollars. So, look,
- 46:05it's rather obvious that Marsenkova is a victim of Epstein
- 46:12and now as a survivor, and I think she should
- 46:15probably be cast in that light now. When Epstein was
- 46:19arrested and she kept going to see him in prison,
- 46:22I'd like to get some answers for that for sure,
- 46:24because at some point you have to accept the responsibility
- 46:27when you're an adult right for your actions no matter
- 46:31your childhood, no matter your circumstances, you have to accept
- 46:35some responsibility for your life. So I really would love
- 46:40to hear her side of the story, because we have
- 46:42never ever heard from her. She's never had a interview,
- 46:47she's never been in court to be deposed, none of
- 46:50that stuff. We also know that she is protected under
- 46:53that non prosecution agreement, but if she wasn't underage when
- 46:58this was occurring, she doesn't need to be protected by
- 47:01that non prosecution agreement because she was a child who
- 47:05was coerced into this behavior. So this opens up a
- 47:10whole different legal can of worms for sure. At first
- 47:13she was paid extra to perform an oral sex act
- 47:16on Marsonkova. Then each week things continued to escalate. States
- 47:20the incident report, she said that she was adamant that
- 47:24no vaginal penetration would occur with Epstein, but then that
- 47:28too did occur while she was under age. She told
- 47:31detective Rakari. On one occasion, the date of which he
- 47:36could not recall, Epstein allegedly raped that victim after she
- 47:40and Marsenkova had engaged in an oral sex act to completion.
- 47:45So Epstein was abusing Nadia obviously, and using her to
- 47:52spur along his own sick and twisted fantasies. She said
- 47:58her head was being held against the forcibly, she screamed no,
- 48:02and Epstein stops, said the report. Soon after this, the
- 48:06survivor said that Epstein purchased a Dodge neon blue in
- 48:10color for her personal use. Of course he did, because
- 48:14that's what he always did, right Whenever he thought that
- 48:17he might have went too far or that somebody might
- 48:20dime him out, there was always a couple of bucks
- 48:23to be spread around, and that was part of the plan.
- 48:25When you have girls who have nothing, people who are poor,
- 48:28and you have a couple of bucks to spread around,
- 48:31it makes your abuse a little bit easier for you
- 48:34to get away with because they're more hesitant to go
- 48:38and tell on you or bring you to the authorities
- 48:40because they know how powerful you are. So it just
- 48:45enables the cycle of abuse to continue. Another woman also
- 48:50detailed a similar progression of events, starting with massages and
- 48:54leading into sexual encounters with marsen Kova. He used Nadia
- 48:59as as nothing more than another instrument for his sexual desires,
- 49:04for his abuse, and for his rape. She might as
- 49:08well have been an inanimate object to Epstein and Maxwell
- 49:12as opposed to a human being. That survivor, who was
- 49:17of age during all the visits to the house as
- 49:20she first met Epstein at eighteen, told Detective Raccari she
- 49:24also performed oral sex acts on Epstein, but refused his
- 49:28directive to bring around other young girls. She also claimed
- 49:34that she was once directed to perform a manual sex
- 49:37act on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marsenkova.
- 49:41So he definitely was an exhibitionist. He was a voyeur,
- 49:44He was all of it. And well, while that stuff
- 49:48is not a issue unto itself, when you add it
- 49:52all together with the other proclivities that Jeffrey Epstein exhibited,
- 49:57you have yourselves one hell of a sexual predator, folks.
- 50:03Another survivor who told police she was having sexual relations
- 50:07with marson Kova at sixteen, said that Epstein took pictures
- 50:11of the two and actually displayed them around his home.
- 50:14So again, where's the hard drive that Richard Kahan took.
- 50:20Where are all of the things he took from that
- 50:22house where these pictures contained there? And if so, are
- 50:27the authorities ever going to open up a case and
- 50:29get access to this These incidents make it clear that
- 50:36marson Kova was also a victim of Epstein. She would
- 50:40later move into one of more of a procurement role,
- 50:43according to court documents, and eventually cut ties with Epstein.
- 50:47She moved into a procurement role when she was too
- 50:49old for him. That's just the coolheart reality of it.
- 50:53When she was too old for him, she outlived her
- 50:55usefulness as far as someone he was attracted to. So
- 50:59her job now was to procure different girls, procure other girls.
- 51:03And we know that everything has been normalized to her
- 51:06up to this point. She thinks, she thinks this is
- 51:08regular behavior. Marsenkova was granted immunity as part of Epstein's
- 51:16two thousand and eight deal, despite the fact that no
- 51:19charges would likely have been filed against her based on
- 51:22the police investigation. She was actually born in the former Czechoslovakia,
- 51:27just four years before the Velvet Revolution, which precipitated the
- 51:31nonviolent transition of power in the country. At some point,
- 51:35she and her family did move to Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia,
- 51:39in recent years, she has changed her surname to the
- 51:42Americanized version of her name, going by Nadia. So look
- 51:48I would love beyond anything to have a talk with
- 51:52Nadia marson Kova a few hours, sit down with her,
- 51:56hear her story, and set the record strade once and
- 51:59for all.
- 52:00Speaker 2: But the legal hurdles that.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Are in the way of someone being able to do that,
- 52:05I'm sure are many, and I'm sure that she doesn't
- 52:08want to, you know, shake the hornet's nest if you will.
- 52:13But one thing to that I can see clearly anyway,
- 52:16and for me anyway, is that this lady is not
- 52:20a abuser. She is somebody who is victimized by Jeffrey
- 52:25Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, someone who was sold as a child,
- 52:30and someone whose story one day certainly should be told.
- 52:37If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 52:39at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bby
- 52:44c ap you c ci at ProtonMail dot com. You
- 52:48can also find me on Twitter at bo bby underscore
- 52:53c ap you c ci. The links that we discussed
- 52:56can be found in the description box. All right, everybody,
- 53:00I'll be back later on. I hope that everybody's having
- 53:03a great day.