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Do Viltrumites Know They're Black?!?! (Michael Review, House Of Dragons Preview & More!) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: As a kid who grew up on Michael Jackson. Let
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  Speaker 1: me say this, that was I remember, like yo, I
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  Speaker 1: he didn't do that all the time. And then it's
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  Speaker 5: I'm waiting for it to get warm.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm tired of this yo yo weather really really really
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  Speaker 4: really really tired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really has been, because yesterday was absolutely beautiful
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  Speaker 1: and then today it was a break.
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  Speaker 5: Today was ass.
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  Speaker 4: Man, and I'm tired of it being like like, first
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  Speaker 4: of all, as a New Yorker, you learn to understand
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a warm fifty or a cold fifty,
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  Speaker 4: all right, and you get blessed sometimes with the warm fifties.
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  Speaker 5: But it's been it's been a what's the word I'm looking.
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  Speaker 1: Reverse reverse, reverse guard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when it comes to that, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: like that. I can't get involved in that. In the
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  Speaker 4: words of Ryan Coogler, So I'm just looking. I'm a
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  Speaker 4: summer person. I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a
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  Speaker 4: what are the people that live in the distant lands
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  Speaker 4: or the sands?
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  Speaker 2: Tropical?
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  Speaker 5: I'm a tropical I'm a tropical people, right.
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  Speaker 2: That's tropical.
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  Speaker 5: So I was thinking Game of Thrones, but I'll take that.
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  Speaker 5: So I was.
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  Speaker 4: The niggas that live in the stand anyway, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I like the warm, nice weather. So but yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: I'm good otherwise, man, looking forward to the summertime, looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to New York summer. Not looking forward to the
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  Speaker 4: World Cup, not looking forward at all the function that's
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  Speaker 4: about to happen here in terms of the you know,
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  Speaker 4: commuting and dealing with it's in met life. Stadium is
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  Speaker 4: happening stadium.
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  Speaker 5: But you got.
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  Speaker 4: People who are going to be going back and forth
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  Speaker 4: between New York and Jersey and it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a problem.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it should be hot out here. Boy, oh well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but we gonna enjoy it. Should be a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful summer Brooklyn. You know, shout out to everybody out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I'm actually doing very well these days.
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  Speaker 2: Hope everyone is. H Man.
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  Speaker 1: It was something I just wanted to talk about right
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  Speaker 1: off that that you were talking about. Besides the Game
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  Speaker 1: of Thrones, trailer House of Dragons dropping, have you watched
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  Speaker 1: it yet?
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  Speaker 5: I did my takeaways.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not looking forward to seeing Allison's face again, like
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 5: That was one of the first times I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I gotta deal with her.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't rushing to watch it because it was like
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  Speaker 1: a teaser trailer rotters like whatever.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, Like, it's not like, at least in
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  Speaker 4: my head, it wasn't something where it's like, oh did
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  Speaker 4: you see what happened in the trail?
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  Speaker 5: Like it was just a continuation of the types of
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  Speaker 5: trails that.
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  Speaker 4: You see when they are talking about house to Dragon.
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  Speaker 5: You see Riniera being a US bitch.
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  Speaker 4: You see a flying around the dragon, them saying are
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  Speaker 4: you sure you want this war saying yes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Damon being a miscreant.
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  Speaker 5: Per usual blood fire.
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  Speaker 2: Thrones.
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  Speaker 5: How's a dragon?
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, you know, same thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people complaining, bitching and everybody arguing fire dragons.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I see.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's been a few years and I
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  Speaker 1: can barely remember anybody's name. I know it's Allison and Une, right, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean that's kind of all you have to remember, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Greens versus the Reds, and.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember the black dude with the terrible wigs, Valerians.
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  Speaker 2: I know that, right, and we said.
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  Speaker 1: That, and uh yeah, sea snake, right, he was deceased, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the sea snake, but he was definitely the sea snake.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, there we go. Corliss, all right, Yes, it's been
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  Speaker 2: a minute, man, Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 5: Because you know Raynie, Raynie resting power to ra Nie Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Rainie, Yes, okay, Rainier and Rainie could always have
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  Speaker 1: to confuse and now I don't have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just right, the ear left, so I ain't got
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  Speaker 1: to worry about getting them confused anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Raynier is the one, but.
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  Speaker 1: You know Rainie is gone, you know, so I won't
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  Speaker 1: get them confused anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to worry about getting confused
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  Speaker 1: anymore because there's only one of them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that to mention Raine too much. Only
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  Speaker 2: in flashbacks.
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  Speaker 1: So Raynier sent her son to get eight, right, that's
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  Speaker 1: my that's my stance.
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  Speaker 4: That's what your stance was. That's not what she did.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't her attention. But that's what your stance was.
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  Speaker 4: You were like, okay, and we all agreed that it
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  Speaker 4: was reckless in terms of the the the current political
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  Speaker 4: heir that you would literally you will allow.
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  Speaker 2: Would you send your son to the straight of Hormorrows
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 5: To the trade of horror moves now?
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  Speaker 2: No, see what I'm saying, you know, would you send
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  Speaker 2: them out there? I was like, right now, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, if you were like, no, you're gonna go over
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  Speaker 1: there and talk us out.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, Like, let somebody else's do that ship, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Or I'm sending over him, you know, knowing what's throwing
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  Speaker 1: down like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she did not send that boy out.
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  Speaker 5: There knowing I come on, come on.
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  Speaker 1: She might not have attended to but you know, intention
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  Speaker 1: in the end doesn't really.
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  Speaker 4: Matter what I all, I really care about because they
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  Speaker 4: completely like removed him from any narrative with Adam of Hole.
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  Speaker 5: That was the other black guy.
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  Speaker 4: So the other black guy with the black dreads that
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  Speaker 4: has Valerian or or Targarian blood.
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  Speaker 5: In him, that ended up with one of the dragons.
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  Speaker 4: They still never surfaced that guy, don't you remember he
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  Speaker 4: was running from the dragon. The dragon was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: you can, you can, and then he ended up they
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  Speaker 4: ended up connecting and dragon bonding and ship.
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  Speaker 5: After that, you ain't never seen him show up ever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he'll definitely show up. And was he in the trailer?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Corlis is talking to another black dude. Can they put
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  Speaker 1: the two black people together? So that's his son, right,
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  Speaker 1: Ain't that Cordless's son, Adam of Hole? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Ain't that the one who one of him and his
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  Speaker 5: brother were basket? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, that's he's the son
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  Speaker 1: of because he's shaving his head all the time to
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  Speaker 1: hide his.
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  Speaker 4: White No, that's that's the other guy, the one that's
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  Speaker 4: shaving his head all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he didn't get the dragon.
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  Speaker 4: No, Adam with the locks allan of Hole. That is
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  Speaker 4: the ball guy that always shaves because weeps.
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  Speaker 2: We yeah, because a hole that he because.
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  Speaker 4: Because they're bastards. We surmise that. Yeah, he has silver
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  Speaker 4: hair and that's why.
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  Speaker 2: He shaves it.
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  Speaker 6: Game of Thrones, you know, autumn Ships, House of Dragons?
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  Speaker 5: Is that the s that we added on?
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  Speaker 1: Always Houses of Dragons? If you really want to be
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  Speaker 1: blackish about it, you know, I go all the way.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So so that's that you don't care about it?
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  Speaker 2: That's fine, No, like, you know, we got castle, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you about the trailer, so whatever, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew that I wouldn't be too about the
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  Speaker 1: trailer because it's not gonna show too much.
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  Speaker 2: I did like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there were some dope shots, like that shot
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  Speaker 1: of the three guys in armor swinging sores around and
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  Speaker 1: that was fire. That was a dope, bad shot. The
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  Speaker 1: shot of Daymon with blood all on his face. Look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, okay, whatever's going down and that
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  Speaker 1: state is going down. But other than that, it was
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  Speaker 1: just like, okay, cool, let's let's see if this season
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  Speaker 1: finally steps it up, because I thought last season was
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  Speaker 1: so bit that's my old today.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like I'm like, oh you know, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, lasts, admit, what else we got going on man.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and then you're And let me just say
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  Speaker 4: for the conversation, I really appreciate Eddie, Like that's my
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  Speaker 4: type of conversation man.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a little bit of nigga shit, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of bit of analysis.
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  Speaker 2: And I was told I was yelling on that one.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize a yelling, you know people I lived with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was told.
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  Speaker 2: That I was.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: It was a very passionate conversation and we all had
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  Speaker 4: our views, we all had our agreements and disagreements, but
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  Speaker 4: it was it was a discussion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought we was.
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  Speaker 5: Really chopping it up, so maybe it was type I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Then again, I speak at a level ten at all time,
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  Speaker 4: so I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I can't tell if you're yelling.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, now I was definitely hype. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about everything. I'm actually going to do another video
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  Speaker 1: to address and review some of the points I made
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  Speaker 1: on there, because we were discussing the Vultrumites an't invincible,
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  Speaker 1: and I was basically saying that they are comparable to
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  Speaker 1: certain societies on Earth. Namely, I'd say Western civilization to
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the world might be the Viltrumites of
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  Speaker 1: the world.
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  Speaker 5: Listen. That reminds me.
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  Speaker 4: Did you I don't know if it was air generator
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  Speaker 4: or not, but did you see on threads maybe a
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  Speaker 4: week or so ago where they said on some Japanese
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  Speaker 4: forum a person wrote about how they are fearful of
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  Speaker 4: black people and they compared us to Viltrumites.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I did.
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  Speaker 5: Did you just see that?
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  Speaker 4: And I and I guess, like I have wrote, I
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  Speaker 4: guess I'm there, you know, not nag naive, what's the word.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'm immature because I just started laughing, like
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  Speaker 4: I like, as you read it, like, they were very descriptive,
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  Speaker 4: descriptive and dead ass about like, oh, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: they can hit me and with one blow and I'll
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  Speaker 4: pass away. And I was just like, it's it was
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  Speaker 4: just a level of ridiculous that was comical for me.
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  Speaker 4: And no, it's not funny, but it's also it's funny
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  Speaker 4: like and I'm just saying that's a very highly z
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  Speaker 4: xenophobic country anyway, and there's a lot going on there.
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  Speaker 4: But it was just like wow, the levels I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it was like a full blown fairy tale about how
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  Speaker 4: they felt. They was like, oh my god, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of them are moving in and I'm concerned about my
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  Speaker 4: health and well being. And and then you know what
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  Speaker 4: I just thought it probably thought about probably like the
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  Speaker 4: black character Viltu might like, does that Vulture might know
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  Speaker 4: he's black? Like, because I guess when you come there
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  Speaker 4: and Viltrum, I guess because they, you know, they never
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  Speaker 4: to me make distinctions.
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if what you get here, they'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you're a nigga. And then what happened And
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  Speaker 5: that's another thing? And is it that?
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  Speaker 4: No, And I understand that's because of this is the
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  Speaker 4: current US reality that I'm speaking from. But does it matter,
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  Speaker 4: like what galaxy or universe you come from? The minute
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  Speaker 4: you hear in America you a nigga?
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  Speaker 2: Like really does it matter? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's just like, oh no, just the fact that
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  Speaker 4: like and you come from again just keeping in line
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  Speaker 4: with from a US white supremacist perspective, like you come
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  Speaker 4: from a place where that's not even recognized, like that
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  Speaker 4: that's not a concept.
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  Speaker 5: There's no black or white. Everybody's just a viltru might.
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  Speaker 4: And you come here and the first thing people see
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  Speaker 4: is you a nigga, never mind that you're a literal
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  Speaker 4: alien from another planet, from another galaxy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well two things there, Like one we see it
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  Speaker 1: on the show when we see Anissa having to react
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  Speaker 1: to men being that she's a woman and a female
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  Speaker 1: for Vulchmight, who is you know, could tear these people's
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  Speaker 1: heads off in an instant and men are now ugling
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  Speaker 1: her and giving her the eye and ship and she
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  Speaker 1: has to deal with that, and we see that in
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 5: Does she have to deal with her? That's what she
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  Speaker 5: wants because you know, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, Anissa is as and that that's a plot point
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  Speaker 1: for later Readers in a comic will certainly understand. That
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  Speaker 1: is why they show that scene where she is repulsed.
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  Speaker 1: But these men are pathetic to her. I mean, imagine
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  Speaker 1: how pathetic. You know a lot of men appear to
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  Speaker 1: most women on Earth. You know, I feel, I feel them.
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  Speaker 1: But look at someone like that, you know, having to
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  Speaker 1: deal with men. You know, I say, men are trash
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  Speaker 1: all the time. So imagine her looking at men and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, I could three all niggas
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  Speaker 1: like you know, why am I?
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  Speaker 2: You know, even having to entertain?
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  Speaker 1: And Thrag has told her she not only has entertaining,
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  Speaker 1: but actually has to have relations with these pathetic humans.
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  Speaker 2: That's how she's looking at it.
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  Speaker 4: But don't they also feel that way with every other
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  Speaker 4: life form in the galaxy.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone's lower than them everyone, And.
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  Speaker 2: Then there grows to that point.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying about my man who is black
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  Speaker 1: whose name I can't remember, the black beltrum Ite right now,
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  Speaker 1: Imagine when me and you have both been to Africa,
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  Speaker 1: and when you come Luke, yeah, Lucian, and when you
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  Speaker 1: come back from Africa and you have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: this society again, it's a jarring thing. You know, It's
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  Speaker 1: been for me, Like I've been in Ethiopia for you know,
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  Speaker 1: one time, I was there for like two months and
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  Speaker 1: I came home and it was like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: heartbreaking almost because I spent two months of not having
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  Speaker 1: to deal with this society, you know, of not having
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  Speaker 1: to consider every moment of my life when I'm outside,
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  Speaker 1: you know that I'm a black person, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: be these type of movements every time I get in
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  Speaker 1: the car, you know, just all the things that go
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  Speaker 1: with life as a black person in America. For two months,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have to consider it. So, yeah, someone like
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  Speaker 1: Lucia when he comes to Earth and it has to
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  Speaker 1: get in the car and it's just driving along and
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  Speaker 1: sometime someday a cop pulls him over and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: why did the cop pull me over? And then you know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: and then he understands shit, and he can't punch the
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: dude's head off.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a very jarring experience for him.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Like it's going to be horrific. And I don't think
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the writers of Evincent are going to get
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: that deep on the show as even Robert Cartman has
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: admitted I saw him admitting an interview recently, he was like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: when I started this book, I was like twenty two
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: year old white dude, you know, and so I didn't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: know shit. I just kept introducing white male characters one
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: after the other, and you know, I wouldn't think twice
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: about it. Every new character reintroduced with a white male character.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: And so now they've done things like Tet Jacket. They
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: changed Tet that tech Jacket's gender on the show because
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: now she's a woman, because she.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: It wasn't a woman before.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a little dude, you know, and it was.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: And the weird thing is someone pointed this out on Readita.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: They were like, and he looks almost like invincible, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: it's true, like he's you know, black hair everything. So
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it was hard to even tell them. Was that just
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: lack of creativity, It's just in lack of exposure.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You have to understand, Robert Kirkman is a white dude
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: from where's he from, Like Middle America somewhere like white white,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you know where That's all he knew, you know. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: he's a young white dude where that's all he knew
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: so he's just writing from what he knows, which is white.
• 16:34
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• 16:37
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• 16:50
  Speaker 2: And back to the point.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: The whole thing about Japan seeing black people as viltrumites,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and we see how America sees black people.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the thing. It's like how the world
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: sees black people.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You've always been seen as superhuman, We've always been seen
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: this way.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We're always terrifying. You know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: The world is the way it is because when them
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: cats came out the caves and.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Saw the rest of the world was brown, they were like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: what the fuck?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: And here we.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Are now in the cave then and yeah, and you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: know it's I saw somebody say this on Threats too.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, so much of everything boils down to like
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: white people, and I guess it starts with white men's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: obsession with black men's genitals.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: So we please move on.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: That's a conversation people are not ready to have please please,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you know, speaking of black men's genitalis, I heard you
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: saw the.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: That is the most horrible, ridiculous, self serving segue.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Asshole as well.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know, my man did used to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: grab his balls a lot. That was you know, look, no, look,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: as a kid who grew up on Michael Jackson, let
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: me say this, that was I remember, like, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I had to ask my mom like, yo, why is
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: he grabbing his nuts so much?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Like because it didn't you know, he didn't do that
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And then it's like around the Bad era, my man
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: just started, you know, going forward, and I was like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: grew up, he grew up, and I guess I was
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a kid like what, you know, because that was something
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in that era, like men used to grab the junk,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it used to be like what the.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: As a kid, Yes, yes, you were a kid and
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that was something from the era for men. You weren't
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: a man.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Even now, I'm like, I don't why we're having this conversation,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: he edited out. You asked me a question, Yes, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I saw the MG movie, did you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not very interested.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I probably will at some point, but as someone who
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: grew up on Michael Jackson, like, I had the utmost
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: joy and honor I guess whatever you want to call it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Him getting to see that man perform live during the Yeah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest moments in my life as
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a kid man. We had seats that were like utterly
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: top Like I think there was one person behind us, right,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that's how high opened the stadium. We work right one
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: row behind us, Me and my mom. We're sitting up
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: there right before the show starts. True story, y'all, this
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is fucking today.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I had to confirm with my mom that just happened
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: once I grew up, because I was like, this couldn't happen.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: As I remember, we're sitting there waiting for the show
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to start. Some man comes walking up the aisle and says, hey,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I've got two tickets. Who wants to move up? No
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: one says anything. My mom, being just like me, is like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'll take.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: The I'll take it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: We were side of the stage, like two rows up
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: from the stage.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Wow, Like you know, perfect view?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You know that, you know when you got them right
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to the left the right of the stage and you're
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: right a little in front of it, you know, what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I mean. So you got the diadal right at the stage,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, nobody really above, you know, you can see
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: every frigging thing that you know. We went from up
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: there to down there, and I saw Michael Jackson's whole
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Bad Tour live. I remember just like floating, did you say.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I just remember the drive home. My Mom's driving, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I just was floating, like Man and Mirror, Like it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: all these moments, like I remember he leaves the stage
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for like ten minutes and Slash.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know Slash, but it was Slash.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: There's a guitar solo out there, and I just remember
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it felt like I was on drugs because yeah, as
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a little kid, because Slash was just absolutely destroying this shit.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And I just remember thinking, how is this one man
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: all alone on stage and he's just playing guitar and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he's just complete control of everything, you know, and it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: was just like what and then Michaels Michael. You know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It's like I said, Man in the Mirror was just
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: ringing in my head for you know, years after that,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: probably like just seeing him, you know, it's it was unreal.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It was absolutely unreal. So I have a different you know, experience.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I grew up on this, dude, you know, Yeah, it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: DJ everything.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: And I also I'm just like, just like with any
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: story that's told about someone you may have grown up
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: with or have a lot of firsthand experience with, it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: still another telling of that, and it's more like, it's
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: more it's less about because my mom even says something similar,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: She's like, well, I grew up with the Jackson and
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, all right, but this is a different
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: take on the experience, right, So same with this Michael
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Jackson movie is just another perspective of his life, right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And you saw the mini series right back and the yeah, the.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: American Dream mini series was I know that was Angelabastad
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: in them, and what's his name?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Say?
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Flex? Is that the one with flexor? Was that? It
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: was a third one?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: No, I've never seen that reflex. I just started seeing
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the clips on it on Threads one.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: There was because there's a lot of people, some people
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: don't know this that there's been multiple MJ biopics done,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: and there was the one in America Dreamed that most
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: people will will reference first because that was the.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Weaver Jason Weaver, Right, that's Jason Weaver. Yeah, yeah, he
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: played young and that ship that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Then there's one that had Flex Alexander in it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he had a last day. I know
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he has the last name, but I just you know Flex.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I mean it's a it's an old meme now, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: I like the one.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: It's like the it's like his picture of him and
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: then it has the X over him trying to say
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: no flex soon so but the one is him anyway.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: The point is that there's been a lot of approaches
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: in a tent with.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Him is wild.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I need wow, it's super terrible. It's terrible.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You've seen it, yes.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: So because it was on TV.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it existed until the other day.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: The point is there are a lot of different approaches
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: and views, and I understand people like not necessarily I'm
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: not saying you, but people may not necessarily care or
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: take entertainment into that because they feel like, well, I
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: have the firsthand experience and cool.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I like biography, I understand. I like biopics. I like documentaries.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I like seeing approaches to how people address someone's life,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: especially when it has any new information in it. With
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: an MJ movie, I got a little bit of new information,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: but it was really primarily for fans, and it was
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: really primarily to exalt Michael. If I won't, I will
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: say this, it did not dig deep into the the negative.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: They touched upon some of the negatives of his early life.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Did.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: First of all, the movie stops in like eighty eight
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: or whenever the Bad Tour the World Tour started, whether
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: that was eight eight or ninety whatever year that was,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: It stops there, and so you don't even get to
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: see what happened in the nineties. And then the whole
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: blow up with the allegations, and they see none of
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: that yet they show the pepsi stuff, and then they
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: get up to when he when he broke away from
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the brothers and did the world Tour, and then that's it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: It's centered on his come up.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: It's center has come up as a child, as a
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: young adult, primarily as well the young boy and I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: want to make sure I find his name, but the
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the young boy that plays him as a kid, incredible,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: absolutely incredible Giuliana Valdi.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Okay, whatever wherever they found.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: This boy, they need to keep digging at that well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: because that is a well of talent and just natural ability.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Because he And that's what I mean when I'm like
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: for people like who say that, well, you know, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: see it, but you don't see what when someone's portraying
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: someone else and they portray that person with such a reverence,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: that and a reverence more so that, especially with certain
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: luminaries like Mike, you'll never see again. You will absolutely
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: never ever ever ever see a Michael Jackson ever again. No,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: so when you are, at least for me, when you're
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: watching things like this where people who are portraying elements
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: of the person of MJ in this instance, and they
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: have pieces of that magic, you go, oh my god,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: like what is this because you don't you've never seen
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: the full after he passed. You'll never see that complete
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: picture ever again, but you might start seeing elements right,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: and when you do, it's special. And that's why when
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I say, when we were talking about from the beginning,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Juliana Valdi, him as young Michael killed absolutely Coleman, don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: mean as Joe Jackson when I say, brother, that man
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: scared me in every scene he showed up.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: And I was legitimate like like I was, I was
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: very not only nervous for the characters. I was nervous
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: for me, like, damn.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Let me not get too loud in this fucking theater,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: or Joe gonna jump out the screen and beat me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: That's how I like it, called me to acting. But no,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: he really embodied Joseph. And that's another thing. These people
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: who were cast embodied the main characters that they embodied
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: deep embodiment, deep and not just act like Jaffar who
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: plays Michael, Jaffar Jackson, Michael's Michael's few who was one
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: of Jermaine or the only I don't know if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: have if there's more Jermaine's sons. It was more than
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: just embodiment. It was damn near like being possessed.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: By the spirit of that character. Ja'far was fucking possessed.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: At there were times like, yes, there there a clear
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: facial you know, similarities and dissemilaries, right, you know that's
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: not Michael. At the same time there was that as
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I mentioned that level of magic and connection where there
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: was a lined blurred. It was as if Michael himself
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: lent his life force and said, you can borrow this
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: for a little bit to show people who I was,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: to tell my story. At least that's what they want
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: you to do and again, to me, this movie, this biopic,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: this version of the biopic, was more about for the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: fans of Michael that wanted to see something about his
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: life done in a very respectful way.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I will.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: And from a fan perspective, you're gonna get all of that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get They hit all the major beats just
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: again up until the point of his first World tour.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: They hit they They do full fucking songs of the
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: some of the major I mean, as from a fan,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be satiated. From a critics perspective, this is
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: where I get on my professional hat. It is just
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: an okay movie. And by that I mean, and I
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: think that's part of because it when my expectations, like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: because this was so well promoted, so well cast, seemingly
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: so before I until I got there, so well I
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: assumed to be written that I'm like, Oh, they're really
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: gonna touch upon the subjects, like they're really gonna touch
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: upon the controversy and give us a different glimpse of
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: why you know that either wasn't fair or was fair
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: or whatever the case is.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: And they didn't really do that. They grazed, they grazed.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: There were certain and also they made you fill in
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the blanks.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And I think if you were as a fan of
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: you saw American Dream and you've been following Michael, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: you know who Michael is and most of his story,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: you were able to readily fill in the blanks.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: As someone who's just new to it, you might just
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, like everything would have been new to you, right,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But from a critical perspective, it didn't deliver on everything.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: And Coleman and Nia even said like, that wasn't their point.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Their point was to give you to steep you in
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: the come up and upbringing of Michael. But they have deliberately,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: whether because of legal reasons or otherwise, left out certain things.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Right Like just for example, like they touch upon to
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: enough degree to touch upon the abuse you see that happening.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: They don't go on to death about how it affected
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: everybody else in the family, but you see how much
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: it was centered on Michael, Right, you see Joe's fucking
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: ridiculousness and his narcissistic negativity and abuse and all of
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the stuff that he's imparting upon everybody. You see everyone
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: else on the outside, like you can infer a lot
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: just by paying attention. But if you really wanted like
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the minute details, like like why did that happen? What
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: exactly this person think, they don't go into it. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: then because of legal reasons, there's certain characters who don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: ever even appear.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: There is no mention show or or or.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Reference to Janet Jackson, for example, that's because she opted out.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know about the other sister, but probably the
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: same situation.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: LaToya is in it, right, LaToya is in it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: She's the only she's only guess, and if you don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: know nothing about life, you would have thought he only
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: had LaToya.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm just saying where it's just like
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: if that kind of depends on where in the general
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: generational timeline you've been in and how much education on
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Michael you've had.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy because in addition to seeing Michael, I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: also got to see Janet on the Rhythm Nation tour,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and it's you know, it was like it wasn't until
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Beyonced I saw another woman do a show like that,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you know, right like you right side.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Even though even though Beyonce again will never be Michael,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: she's the closest we're ever gonna get and she is
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the last. She's the last, the last, You're never because
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: the error is gone, is gone of what.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Is the book that we can in?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: The divine God level tier artists is done.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And over with.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It's more so it's like the I'm not sure if
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: that level you might be right on fo the levels.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Don't over and I want people to understand that, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: like that's gonna be another argument we could argue about
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: it in the.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: No no, no, yeah, no, to help to jump on what
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you're saying. It's the same thing that when people talk
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan, right, it's Michael Jordan will always be
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: revered and thought of as Michael Jordan because of the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: circumstances of when Michael Jordan became Michael Jordan, because there
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: was no Internet, there was none of this other stuff,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: so it was like the mystique of Michael Jordan. He
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: was the only one, et cetera, et cetera. You know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: there was Sports Center all that wasn't even around, so
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: all the attention was on it. It's just like Michael
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Jackson is another one. There will never be where everyone's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: attention is on one person.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Like you're talking about on a global scale, five billion million,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: like I.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Wish it was an exaggeration.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: And and like you said, you grew up with Michael,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I grew Micael in a different capacity, you know. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: never I didn't go go on you show or anything
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: like that, because he was much older and it was different.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: But the fact that I still grew up with him,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I was educated on him and all his music, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to do the same for.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: The next generation.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Like about what did you see there's on a global scale?
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: There's no, There's no, And I honestly, because of the circumstances,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: you will never see that again. This is not shitting
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: on your favorite artists. Is not saying another artist isn't big.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: It's just different levels that are unattainable now because it
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: was a different circumstance for that particular artist to come up,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: and the scale of come up it's different.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like you're right.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I've often said to Beyonce, is you know because I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: saw and like I saw her performing Ethiopia, so I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: saw her, like, you know, do a global thing where
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it was and then I was in Ethiopia when Drunken Love,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: when that album dropped, when you know, the world stopped
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and I was in Ethiopia and the DJ and Ethiopia,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and the next night every fucking woman in the club
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: came up demand.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And I played songs off that album like it was.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I'd never seen something like that, And I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: don't think we ever will again, like you said.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: You never will, Like she's the she's the last of that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: She's the last of that because she also came up
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: at least part of her.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Life because of her age. She came up before.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: And then a certain circumstance where it would have been
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: impossible for anyone coming forward.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Technology is different, social.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Is different, economy is so different, globalization is there. But yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: it's just different and it has nothing to do like again,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: it's not a it's not saying nothing bad about your
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: favorite artists and they this and.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Say that, No, no, not the same.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: All that to say, just to close up this, this
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: my my thoughts about the MG movie. It does end, like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: especially as a fan, like when it's over, like this
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: lady who's next to me, she was.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Just like that's it. Yeah, like it just ends.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: It really does just end. I'll come to find out
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Ja'afar had a conversation. I think it was ET Entertainment tonight. Yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: another one of them outlets where he said that they
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: are still in early development.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Of a part two.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think the.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Part who was going to see the light of day,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: to be honest with you, maybe.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it couldn't.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: The money.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it will.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe because of the money, but I don't think. Yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the money because it made over two. It made like
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: two twenty mili the big bopic.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Ever, however, when I say it may not see like
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Virgin that has the full truth legally, yeah,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: the first that's it fultue because this didn't have the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: full truth. Oh no, no, no, legal just had didn't have
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: food too because it was sanitized by the estate, all
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: sorts of things.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: To let you know.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And this has also come out, well it's still allegedly,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: but people are pretty much confirmed. This is that they
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: had to rewrite the third app and reshoot a lot
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of the third yea.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Because I mean to the point where Kat Graham isn't
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: in it anymore. She was, she was playing Diana.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Ross like he has gone.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: She filmed she filmed scenes with with with the actor
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: other actors and all of her shit's gone.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's legal stuff going on with the alleged
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: accusers of Michael Jackson where they can't be included in anything, right,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So they had to take that out.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So even if they do a sequel, they won't be
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: include these people.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And I, you know, like I said, as someone who
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: grew up on Michael, and that's one of the reasons
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't sure for I want to see
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: because I'm conflicted about it. Like I'm one of those
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: people I've never watched Finding Neverland. I really have no
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: plans to. I've heard, you know, from both sides of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: where people say it's all true, where people say it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: complete bullshit, and I'm one of them people who just
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like f and I'm just trying to listen to this music.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I might have to hold that l on
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that one. It's kind of like how I feel with Prince,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like where I love Prince. I know the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Prince you know was questionable, you know, it was a
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: questionable human being, like most human beings, especially when you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: put them on these pedestals, as you say, when you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: put them on a godlike pedestal, you're going at the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: like a weirdo. You know, It's like it's very difficult
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: for any human being not to add like a weirdo
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: when they're being told they're a god every day. So
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I just on those I just trying to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: hold the l and like I'm enjoying music because I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: do love the music. And then going back to what
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I was saying earlier about vulturemites and black people in
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: this world, I also feel that like black artists are
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: often held on a different scale than white artists, like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: when it comes to being a trifling human being, because
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of artists, like I say, when you called
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: them a god, are trifling human beings.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: But it's always, oh, we're never gonna listen.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: To this black person again, you know, while Rolling Stones
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: is out here, live and kicking.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, So I overall, I would recommend it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: I think it was a good movie.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Who I think it was the best Michael movie ever,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think what surpasses the movie
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: itself was literally the performance and embodiment of Michael and
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: his legacy and just far eight, like far by far
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: eight well and beyond anybody I could have ever seen
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: portray him and you could the love and the care
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: is there. Colman Demingo fabulous, Nil Long fabulous, Uh, Lorenz
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Tate he plays Barry Gordy fabulous.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: What's the light skinned one?
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: From Secure? He plays h Quincy Quincy Thank you? He
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: plays Quincy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Ain't gonna hold you.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I know that cat too, like yeah, not like I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: know him through like Kendrick Sampson. Yeah, he's good friends
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: with my people's Maud and Buck. I want to shout
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: her out, but I can't remember her name right now,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: but yeah, shout out to them, shout out.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Laura. Harry is even in it, Like I was surprised
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: to see her.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: She pays Susan the past and you know when they
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: get to the motown section, like there are some great action,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: active activities and acting and things being done here.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And what I was gonna say was, I ain't gonna
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: hold you. For all the brothers that played all the
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: brothers and the Jackmane brothers, they could have just swapped
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: them in with anybody would have known any better. They
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: were very much background to me.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean background in the real world.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, right, So it's it wasn't about really them, but.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That Michael dissed them throughout the movie. That's the only
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: thing that I liked. He clowned them like he did
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: in real life, because Michael.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: No, they they left out like the way mainly how
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: he treated Jermaine, like everyone keeps saying, showing the clips
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: of him back in the day saying I love my brothers,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: including Jermaine. Oh, I didn't see that one, Like that's
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: a real clue. And I saw on threads.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: The one that it must be Jermaine. Then the one
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: that I always remember is that there's this clip of
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Michael whe He's holding the camera and I think he's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it must be Jermaine, and he's like, Jermaine dance, Jermaine dance,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and Jamaine starts dancing and he's like, look at that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: fool over there.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: So I mean they showed like the brotherly jokes and
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: It's more so like brotherly background.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: They don't go to they don't go too hard into
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the m jasms that he was he'd be doing like
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: and I love that people were like doing like full
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: clip fests of all of the like wold Ship.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Michael used to.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Say or said in the past, because it's a lot
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I have never seen and I'm like, what, like yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: And it's like stuff I don't remember, you know, Like
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I said, I was a kid, so it's like I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: saw him live, but I don't remember all the things.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't remember that he sent a statue to
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: one of the video shoots when they did the reunion.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there, so I don't know if that's true.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: You know, it is YouTube text.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Right in any of the videos, there's a statue and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: there's a looker like in the other video, like he's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: not in the videos.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's true. These are true stories, like you can go
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: watch them on YouTube.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Michael was a kid, Okay, that man was just doing
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: and saying wild stuff.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You're gonna send a statue to a video shoot?
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Faan was funny because because see he thinks he thinks
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: like that was funny.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: He thought things like that was funny.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So oh my god, yoh that ye rest in peace, bro,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So I still I still recommend it. I still say
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: go see it. If you even an inkling of an
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: m J fan, go see it. Yeah, that man is
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: just funny as hell.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Peace man. That man was funny as hell.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I know we're gonna get eight up two?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Can we over here praising Michael? And it's just like yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Like for the last you know, a few years, I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: was djaying a lot of weddings, and that was always
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: one that hurt my soul was when I would see
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: do Not play and it was Michael Jackson right new
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to like Chris Brown and R Kelly.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I was always m all three black guys.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: But that's everyone's decisions.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I never like R. Kelly in general. You know,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I get it, but yeah, just the blacks, Okay.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a fan of R.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Kelly.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: No, I never have been. I've like, I get, like,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: my problem with R. Kelly is I've always felt like
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he makes the lowest traume of denominated music. Like I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: feel like he is as talented as anyone you ever
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: want to mention, but he's like, this is the easiest
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: way for the bread, you know, instead of making the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: music he could make, because I've heard that music from him.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: But it's like, nah, I'm just gonna keep making you know. Oh,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: y'all like dancing the name of ste the name of love,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: here's twenty of them. You know you like your body's calling,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: here's thirty of them.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: You know you like the.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Anything else? But he did twenty million trapped in the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: closet snow.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well I would have handed you a similar list,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: and it was definitely gonna say no.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: R Kelly, Yeah, and I would understand that. But when
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you put Michael next to him, it's like.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: It is a very difficult and touchy subject which they
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: completely avoided.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: H And I feel it, you know, I don't know
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: what what part two gonna look like. It's all that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Real quick before we go, ben Uh, A few things
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: that I wanted to say quickly and then you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: you can comment on them. But one they canceled gen V,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I only had two. I know you kind of didn't
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: care at that point. You wasn't fucking with gen V
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: or the boys, Like no, and completely understand why. Like
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: it's just too much, it's all it's it's even though
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I've watched both you know and and also the most
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: recent seasons.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: It's just too much.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Man, you bloting for punishment.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I am a completionist. I feel like I got to
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: finish ship, to be honest.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: It's kind of from gaming.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I did read like The Boys was one of them,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Like I have sitting in this closet right here, I've
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: got most of the series right there in boxes. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: then I stopped right before the end, like maybe thirteen
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: is shoes before the end. But then I eventually like
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: read them online because I was like, you know, like you.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Just got there.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: It's more like I gotta no. But it's also I
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: am again not gonna hold you.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: I sighed through a lot of episodes and and to me,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: GENV was particularly egregious for this, but it was even
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: a mortgage. I'm like, how because Boys was the original
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: aggressive aggressive egregious. A lot of the hapitual line stepper,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: and my whole thing about it is just just like
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: habitually line stepping to what end? Like how many dick
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: jokes am I gonna get? How many balls? How many
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: nasty just just combination cuss words can you come up with?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Like who you? It's clearly not for me? Who are
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: you writing this for? And again it's just more soul.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I'm just damn, I'm just trying to get to the end, like, okay,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: so what the fuck happens?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: So all that said, just back to gen V that
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: shit is canceled. They only did two what'd you call it?
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Two seasons? Third season is not happening. But a lot
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: of those characters have already been or will be poureded
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: over to The Boys, and crip Key was saying that
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: you're gonna see them again, but in like The Boys
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: and other projects down the line.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So my problem with The Boys is and has
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: been my problem.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Like the comic is one thing, Garth and it's just weird.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: The book is weird. The book and the show as
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the show's developed have become very different and same. But
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: my problem with The Boys is is and this is
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: something that I'm gonna talk about this week on Daredevil
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and Everything, is I think The Boys is one of
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the originators of the idea of centrism in like shows
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: like this, when you have really strong political you know, takes,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: but you're very centrist, where it's just like there's bad
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle. And The Voice first
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: did that for me with Homelander when they first introduced
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the Nazi character our Stormfront Front and it was like,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: here's a worst version.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: So he's not that bad, right, you know? And then what.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Really sealed the deal, because I know people are like, no,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: they still made whom Lander evil, He's still the monster
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: is when they introduced the AOC analog. And that's the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: season I stopped watching. It was a character who was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: sitting there blowing people's heads up, and you know, it's like, oh,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: here's the Democrat who's evil too, and it's just like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: oh god, and they really made her look like AOC
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: everything where it was like, fam, y'all, just you're really
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: gonna say that, you know, it's just as bad and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that's what you're implying. And so that's when I gave
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: up on Kripkeet in general. I thought he's cornball. If
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: we ever had a chance to talk to him, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: would tell him this. I'd be like, Bro, you centences
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: fuck and that shit's weak as fuck. And it's only
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: a position that a privileged white man can take when
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you can say, oh, this bad on both sides, you know,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and you can say i' And this is what I've
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: been talking about in recent videos. I did a video
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: on comics explaining that a lot of y'all saw, and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I'm actually about to do another one on their level
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: because I feel it's really bad with this season is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: that you can sit there and say, oh, there's bad
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: on both sides, and things are just as bad on
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: both sides, and I'd rather keep the status pro going.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: And that's the biggest problem, because the status Pro is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: constantly being pushed back by one side, but you're content
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: to sit there and say no, it's cool, and that's
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: shits weak man. So that's why I gave him one
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: of the Boys a long time ago, and I never
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: went back. I've heard what's been going on in the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: latest season and I don't care. And so yeah, this
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: being canceled was pretty much the same. I was like,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: cool because they're still doing another spin off they got and.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: They got the spin off before what's his Face Soldier
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Boy and his ever with.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Stormfront where they're gonna humanize Stormfront further. You know, it's like,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that's so weird to me, Like these are gonna be
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: your protagonists sure or not the heroes. But as I've said,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't match her name, but she's going to be
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in it. Oh yeah, she because her and Solier Boy
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: have a relationship. They distressed that on a recent episode
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that he you smashed too that's true.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: That's why he got mad with someone mentioned her.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yep, And so this she's to be a major part
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: of the show. It's her and they're the two leads.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And that's my problem.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Like I think, I'm definitely definitely done after this.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: I don't like this. I don't even know why. Like
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: I said, it's this more completion.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: This Why am I still doing this myself when I'm
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: not exactly happy with it? No?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And this is perfect because this leads into the next
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: topic that the Authority series got canceled.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Well, James Dunn when he first took over the DCU,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: he announced I think ten projects, and one of them
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is The Authority, right, and the Authority is unlike the Boys.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't reread it in a while, but it's one
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of my favorite comments at the time it was. It
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: was created by Warren Ellis, who is problem as fucked,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: but he's, you know, also one of my favorite writers
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: before I found out how problematic he was. And The
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Authority features a team of characters. They existed in the
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: DC universe. I'm not sure that they started. I think
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: they started in this other universe, but they've they've been
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: bought up by DC where they're part of it and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: they're no, they weren't. Because there are a lot of analogs,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: like the Authority was a team of superheroes.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: They have a.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Batman analog named Midnighter and Apollo who is Superman. But
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: in this uh, Midnighter and Apollo are gay and in
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a relationship.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, yep, that's different.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: There's also a doctor Strange type character. There's a character
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the Engineer, who we actually saw in the first Superman.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: The woman who was on Lex Lufi's team was the Engineer,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the one who was creating buzzsaws and doing backflips and
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: all that type of shit, who had the like nanotech
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: growing out of her skin. The Engineer, that's her character.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: She's slightly different. Much more powerful is the Authority. That
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: all other members of the Authority were like dumb powerful
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and they were the type of they were one of
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the first, along with like X Force, because that's Force
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: was around the same time. Whereas like, we're gonna be
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: proactive heroes. We're not gonna sit around and wait for
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: villain solution shit. We're gonna go out and find these
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: villains and kill them and remove them from the table.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And then they also.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Dealt with bigger than life things, like they battled God
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: at one point. You know, it wasn't exactly God, but
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: it was that type of you know storyline.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Is it popular.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Authority was a huge book for its time, Like it
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: was one of those books. It's yeah, Frank Quietly was
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the artist it feature. It was one of the first
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: comics at a time to feature what they call like
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: widespring cinema comics, whereas a lot of you know, a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: lot of the panels would be huge and widescreen action
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and quietly for people who know it's like one of
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: these he's a great and so the art was just.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: On another level.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And then it had a dope story too, you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and it was very it's dream you know. It was
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: like late nineties, early two thousands, so it was like extreme.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: You know, they were murdering cats.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: It was a very violent, very different take on superheroes.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And so The Authority was going to be this thing.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: But why I said it relates to what we were
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: talking about is I'm kind of happy that he canceled
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it because I feel like it's in this same vein
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: of anti heroes that people don't really have enough media
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: training to understand shouldn't be viewed as heroes, you know,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like you think of characters like the like The Punisher
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: is the first, like the Punisher debuted. It debuted in
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Spider Man as a pure villain. He was trying to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: kill Spider Man, but then he proved popular. Oh Man,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: In fact, rest in peace to Jerry Conway who just
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: passed away.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: He was the.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Creator of The Punisher and a bunch of other stuff
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: for you know, multiple comics, and he just passed, so
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you know, rest in peace to him for real. Thank
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you for that and everything you did for that matter.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. They were created as and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: then they prove popular, so they're like, Okay, we gotta
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: give him his own series, make him slightly less villains,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and now he's just killing you know, allegedly criminals, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: he's still a villain. You know.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: He's like if we in the.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Real world of this man going around shooting people, were like,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: lock this dude up, man that you know, nah, you know,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: coming into the hoods and some white dude running around
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the hood just shooting up.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Dude's like, what that shit.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Ain't happening, So It's one of those things where I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: don't think people have enough, like if you see police
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: have taken on the Punisher, et cetera, where people don't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: get it. You know, people watch stories like The Homelander
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and Soldier Boy and they identify with them instead of
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, these are villains, These are a problem.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: These are not the right, like the authority are supposed
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to be looked at as like okay, Like there's this
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: very classic issue of Superman where he took on like
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: not the authority, but you know the authority in quotation marks.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: So at this point they were owned by different companies
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and Superman breaks down why it's like this ain't right
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: what y'all do, and basically this that doesn't you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: it's cool, it looks cool, but this ain't what being
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a hero is about, you know. And that story is
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: really fantastic, and that's why James Dunn said he doesn't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: feel like they fit in with what we're doing with
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the DCU, And I think that's.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: True, which is about light and ecstasy and but it's.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Aweso very interesting because I don't know if you keep
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the Clayface trailer, did you?
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: I couldn't get past the ten minutes sharing.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Holy Like, first of all, it looks great. And when
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you talk about lightness and Lollipop.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that's not that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: That ain't it And understandably because that's not a lightness
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: in Lollipop's story.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so interesting that so whatever they were
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: getting this script for the authority and together and so whatever.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: This strip was just you know, was because he said
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: he had no plans for Clayface until I can't remember
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the dude's name he does all the horror, h House
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: on the Hill, all that shit. He brought him the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: script like he was like, I have this idea for Playface.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I want to do this a Flannegan. So
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: like he said, I want to do this. So James
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Jones like, all right, we'll work this in. Because he
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: saw the script, I was like, this is so incredible,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: we have to do this. So I guess the authority
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: script wasn't that incredible, which is probably part of it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And then it just didn't exactly fit because I get
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: it because Playface you can do you know, you can
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: do a little small story with this dude and Superman
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't notice that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: But you bring in the authority it changes what's going
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: on in the DC.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: You have to answer that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to answer These dudes fly around on
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: a ship that goes through dimensions.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: You know, they are like some old nets level I.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Mean, or you can do it like how Marvel doing
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: ignore the giant seleshial on the ocean? I mean for years,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: for years doesn't exist.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: And even now you know, like that shit is not
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: coming up in Doomsday. I doubt that's unless the of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the ocean has anything to do with it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: And they mentioned it, they mentioned it. What movie was
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that recently? Where they it was movie or TV?
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no Falcon they mentioned it.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's to be the end of that
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: for a while, Like we ain't gonna hear about that again.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: But if I'm saying, if you brought an authority, you'd
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: have to hear about that in every movie. There's no
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: way you could ignore that the authority out there.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's what it was.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: I think I was watching What If and they were
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: talking about it, because it's always on side side.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I like, you know, it doesn't really matter, Yeah,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: not at all.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: And then one of the last things I did want
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: to mention was just the fact that I didn't even
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: realize that you said Ted Lasso's coming back.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I'm conflicted because I really thought it ended properly.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: It ended the waves.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: But like I get to me now, I don't know
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: this is genuine, like for the love of the characters,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: or it's just like hear and it's seen the love
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: of the characters and the cash. I thought it closed.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Like at the end of season three, I was like,
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied. Like everyone, everything wraps up. Everyone
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: got their endings, good, bad or indifferent.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Ted made his piece.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Everybody's cool. So I'm like, y'all literally wrap that shit up?
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: So why now bring it back? And apparently this new season,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: season four is gonna be about him trying to coach
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: a women's soccer i e.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Football league.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yep, Like, okay, now, I was gonna agree with you.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I was feeling an exact same way. But just as
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you were speaking, I thought about, have you ever watched
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: our Reservation Dogs? Yes, okay, you watched the whole thing?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: No, okay, well it's like three seasons, I think, right,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And I remember.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: I didn't watch all seasons, but I did watch a
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: good majority of it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: At the end of season two that was supposed to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: be the ending. You know, they I didn't think they
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: were doing another season, and I thought the end of
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: season two is perfect. I balled out. I was just like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is an exceptional perfect two seasons
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: of a show. This is how you tell the story.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And then they're like, we're doing the third season and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, why you know? And I was reluctant
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: to watch it. And then the third season I cried
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: through every episode. It's suck a perfection and it ended
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: on a perfect, even more perfect note than it ended before.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, and again, I'll go for that if the writing
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: is that to say, for the love of the characters,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: got it? If it's just the love of the money,
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: love and characters, and I'm like, you know, why are
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: you doing this? But I will remain open to it
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: because I do love, not love, but I do enjoy
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: deeply Ted Lasso and friends. Most of the friends as characters. Yes,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: I too, but I enjoyed that story. So y'all hooking
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: me in because of Ted again? But am I going
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: to enjoy the others? I'll give it a chance and
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: see what these this new group of people are going
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: to be like well, also.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: On that note, they are adding the legendary and I
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: do mean legendary Tracy Olmand, who is a lot of
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: people like. In recent years she's been a little more quiet,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I guess, or I haven't seen what projects she's been doing.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: But in the early nineties, back in you know, my childhood,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: she was late like late eighties, early nineties, she had
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the Tracy Olmand Show, which was like a variety show.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I think it was on Fox because it's, as you said,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: it's where the Simpsons debut. And she's just a brilliant,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: brilliant artist, you know, comedian, singer, l everything you can imagine.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm really happy that a whole new generation of
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: people is going to get to see her.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, I just I'm here for Roy Kent. If Roy
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Kent is there, that's my boy.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I'm happy.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: That's the E for me is in the back over here,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's E or for me.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: I love Roy Kent.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: And also way, Roy Kent is rumpy one. But okay,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and then what's the his rival Tart, Jamie Tart.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I love Jimmy Tart.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: To you like Jamie Jamie Tart is basically Damon like
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: he's another one of those like kind of psychotic characters.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: And speaking of Jmi Tart, the actor is currently armed
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: The Rooster, which is another HBO show which I call
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like the stop gap for Ted Last So because it's kind.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Of feel good.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Is not as feel good as Ted Lasso, but it's
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: kind of in the same vein it features Steve Carell.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I've really been enjoying the first season. If you all
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: haven't watched it yet, you can check it out. Steve Carell,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other actors whose names I don't know.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: But it's a really strong cast, very strong cast, and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: you know, a solid show, you know, slightly feel good, not.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: As feel good as The Rooster and is to Last Sole,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: but up there.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so I'm gonna go with it with
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: cautious optimism.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah at first I wasn't, but when I remembered reservation dogs,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: like that may be right, But.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: That's because that team, yeah, specific creative team.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: But you know this, but from what I understand, this
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: is the same team who did the first Okay, and.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: If it's then if I does I will probably err
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: on the side of trust and see what happens.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to be sure it was genuine.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just worried because this doesn't feel like we're just
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: doing one more season now.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, Okay, you're gonna get going a brand
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: new avenue and then say okay, we're gonna leave it
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: there like no now.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just why I talk about the genuine nature.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: That's where it feels like for the love of the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: cash to see.
• 59:55
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