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Old Firm Carnage, Womens NT & Cup Upsets w/ The Tartan Scarf · Scots With A Mic

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Hello and welcome back to the Scots for my podcast.
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I'm James Scott and join us for this episode.
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We've got Ben Crockart fresh back off the plane from his
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holiday. Yeah, straight from the airport,
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but good to be back. And we've also been joined by
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Gordon Shack. She had good things with the
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podcast. He liked the first episode, and
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he was like, I want in on that. I'm coming along.
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Thank you very much guys. Glad that you had an extra mic
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for me. Yeah, coming straight from the
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pub. Yeah, I wait.
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Yeah, me to start that attempt to soar up though.
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But yeah, I know it's been welcome you into our studio.
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Yeah, thank you. Some setup you've got.
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Yeah, it's. Some very professional.
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I wish you guys could see what we can see right now.
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Yeah, I'm going to be getting in trouble again for taking over
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the entire living room. So.
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But yeah, no, it's cool. Yeah.
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It's been a crazy week, crazy day.
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Very good at the. Recording on the Sunday fresh
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off an Old Farm Scottish Cup quarterfinal.
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Ding Dong. Yeah, that was opera.
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Yeah, stuff, stuff went down as about the the keeping it light,
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but we'll get on to that. We've got an itinerary we're
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going to work our way through today.
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First of all, women's team, Scotland national team.
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What a start. On the March, yeah.
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Great start. Yeah, two games, twelve goals
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and I think we mentioned off camera, great to see Caroline.
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We are kind of bringing her club form that she's had at Real
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Madrid into the national team with that hat trick in the five
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nil win and then obviously carrying it into the seven nil
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with, you said, 4 assists. 4 assists yeah so I basically the
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way this World Cup campaign's working is it's actually pretty
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hard to wrap your head around so I don't blame anyone for not
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being able to get it 'cause we. I was watching explainer video
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off camera. I I tried to explain it to
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Gordon. We sat down and watched that
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video again. It was Amy Carr.
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Amy Caravan on the. BBC.
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Yeah, the BBC. We watched that, still going to
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start it again. I was like, I was like again,
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did I have too many tenants at the pub or is this just hard to?
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So it's basically, I feel like the easiest way to describe it
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is the Nations League seems to replace the World Cup qualifying
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and because of that Scotland can, and I felt this is pretty
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naff to be honest. Scotland can't qualify for the
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World Cup automatically. Directly, yeah.
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Yeah, so. From this group.
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Yeah, yeah, the teams in the A league can.
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We're in Group B4, so essentially as long as we don't
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finish last, we're guaranteed a playoff.
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But yeah, you know. Basically, yeah, Basically it
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seems like the better you do in this group, the kind of more
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gentle a path you might get through the playoffs.
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Obviously it's going to be difficult as we know with
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obviously with with the men's team, qualifying for World Cup
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is always going to be harder than qualifying for EUR.
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There's fewer spots for European teams.
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We will have to go through some tough teams eventually to get to
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World Cup. I think if I was to say, I mean
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put a positive spin on on this, being in League B gives you an
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opportunity to get a really good head start and a really good bit
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a bit of momentum going as we've seen this week with these two
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big wins. Yes, caveat is Luxembourg.
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So you know, again, absolutely no disrespect to them, but it's
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teams you would expect us to be beating.
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But we've gone out and demolished and dominated both
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games. Excellent.
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So this gives us a really good opportunity get form, get
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momentum, get some goals up, get a new system in place and then
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when it comes around to playoff time, we're ready to
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rock'n'roll. And again, to, to, to to Fence's
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point there. Yeah, Caroline Weir, obviously
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you captain. She's been a real kind of
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Talisman for the team or she's been a player that we've always
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looked to, to be a real Talisman for the Scotland team.
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But I think so good to see her translating as you said, that
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that that club form, you know, she was obviously playing at
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Real Madrid. They're doing really well in the
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Women's Champions League this year.
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They're in the quarterfinal against Barcelona so they've got
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a home and away tie against. Barcelona Balandor nominating
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the club, obviously. Balandor but she is, she's
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actually the second top, top goal scorer in Women's Champions
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League this season of everyone in Europe.
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So it's 5 five goals so far. So yeah, she's doing great over
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there in Spain. But yeah, fantastic to see her
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bring it back. It's good because that was
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Melissa Andatta's first competitive.
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Yeah. And competitive wins.
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Yeah, she would she took over at the end of the Nations League
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campaign. Pedroid obviously not long left.
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Things weren't looking good. I think the performances, I
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mean, I remember watching the, the the, the playoff for the EUR
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and it was just so far below what we expect of like
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realistically a good group of players.
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Yeah. And you know, the team looks
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like in a good place. So obviously it was 5 nil away
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to Luxembourg. The way this, the way this group
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is working, because we've got Israel as a team, they are not
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every other group's doing this, but we seem to be doing like
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double headers. Yeah, so.
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So we've got Belgium next. Yeah, we had lots.
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That's a tough one, yeah. Luxembourg 5 nil away to
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Luxembourg and then we came home 17 nil.
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So in Luxembourg it was a weird hat trick along with Jen Clark
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and McGovern scoring and then became home.
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McGovern and Clark getting on the goals again.
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Double for both and then Davidson, Lawton and McKinney
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got their goals too. Plus like I said, 4 assists from
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Carly and we are so not too bad. But then it's April, they have
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their next fixtures double header against Belgium, first of
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those the Easter Rd. We'd encourage people to try and
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get tickets if they are are, you know they have a they're.
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Available, yeah. Well it's free if you're a
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Scotland supporters member. Why not?
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I mean, I've got my ticket, managed to grab tags, more
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people on as well. So you're in Edinburgh.
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So they sometimes, I mean, I appreciate sometimes it's harder
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to get through to Glasgow for a game if you're local, great
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opportunity, but. Good, good, good, good.
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Good atmosphere as well. Real family friendly like.
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Unfortunately I was meant to be there at the game yesterday.
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Unfortunately chickenpox reared its ugly head in our house so I
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was going to take my wife and daughter were going to come and
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for the three of us to go it cost me the princely sum of 10
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lbs. So I got my ticket for free.
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Kids ticket was free and a tenor for an adult non member so it
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can't say fairer than that kind. Yeah, also I get along if you
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can, because you might see me there in my jacket.
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This was this was literally the feedback from there.
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But we're just check, yeah. Absolutely nothing about the
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podcast, just where can I get that jacket?
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We had like after the first video one, we were like, oh,
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it's let's like reach out feedback from different people.
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Gordon's like it's great. I want to come on.
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Other folk were like, oh, like it's quite good be like this
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like that. Everyone asked personally, I
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just went where did you get the jacket from?
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So like, yeah, I mean the. Other people don't.
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Don't gatekeep that you have to gatekeeper.
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You have to gatekeeper. The thing is it's it's like it's
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an old, it's score draw, but it's like I bought out a buttons
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in Dunfermline maybe 10 years ago.
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So I stay off the topic of Dunfermline.
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Oh, OK, that's like, you know what, that's a good segue right
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there. It's going in the Scottish Cup.
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Finn could your team has spared me a little bit of pain and not
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let my local rivals get into a Scottish Cup semi final.
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What happened? Did you watch it?
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I I luckily was not watching it. It was away in Portugal and
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couldn't find, well, not surprisingly, I couldn't find a
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a pub that was showing Dunfermline versus Aberdeen.
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And yeah, horrific. Wasn't I'm, I'm not overly
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surprised by the result, but the performance and the scoreline
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where it could have actually been more than three nil, Yeah.
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Was just a fracking goal shocking one from Matthew Todd.
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I mean, he's had he's wound up with Rovers fans in the past,
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but I mean, it's such a joke. Yeah, include me, I I include
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myself in that. But I mean, there's a sniff of
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offside in that goal. The the head, the defender, the
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headers at clear is under pressure.
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I guess you could say if I'm an offside attacker, maybe VAR
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would have ruled that out. Who knows?
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They weren't covering that game because it was at East End Park
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and he's didn't fair play term. One touch caught on a volley by
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1 now and Aberdeen's chasing from that point and then Thomas
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grabs two goals after him and like Aberdeen, the family's
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outside by that point. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's,
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it'll be the first year where Aberdeen's not Hamden for four
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years. So yeah, at this point and but.
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Not reigning champions out. Yeah, I know.
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I was. I was, I think.
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Clanging on to that last. Year.
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So the amount of times I've used on you, no, I was kind of that
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was the last kind of hope I had for the season because obviously
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leagues done were clearly bottom 6, not even mathematically
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possible. And now the job is just don't
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get scraped into a relegation playoff.
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Honestly, did you ever start about the last time a Scottish
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Cup semi final included that? No, I didn't if you know in the
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well there's no in the comments. Last time a non premiership team
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got to a Scottish Cup semi final this is a few that spring to
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mind. Ross County and it's 201020170.
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Could have been a night. So that's a shout.
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When they got to the final against Celtic.
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Yeah, yeah, that's can't really. Oh, another one.
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Yeah, if you don't let us know in the comments, but obviously
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Dunfermline will be at Hampden against one of Falkirk Celtic or
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and then St. Mirrenor Partick Thistle tonight
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which? Is going on tonight.
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So obviously Falkirk won two, one against Dundee United.
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That was Yeats and Stewart Barnett.
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Stewart obviously in great form, Great Fork came back on.
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He was on loan at Dunfermline first half of the season,
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returned to Falkirk and he he's he's settled in quite well to
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the squad, grabbing goals I did. See him I did see a comment
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online someone saying that he has Jamestown written all over
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him. You know, let's see, let's let's
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see if he makes a bigger move, but.
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See where Shanklin ends up at the end of the track window but
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no is rise from. What is it?
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The city? What the 7th?
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Uni student? Yeah, the 7th tier.
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Shared a pitch. I know, I know a boy that should
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have pitched on my head what he was like.
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He was like prattling on. He's really good.
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He's really good and. He's not bad, yeah, 7th year
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start of last season, then we'll say got the move, been on loan
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at Dunfermline and yeah, he's banging him in I think.
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Yeah, he scored a hat trick in the Premiership, did you Scored
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a couple of races and yeah, he's really kicking on.
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And I think we mentioned off camera that with the injuries
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we've got in the Scotland squad, it might not be about outside
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show. Obviously it's a yeah.
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It's a friendly, definitely, yeah.
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I saw him, I saw I saw James McFadden the other day was
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talking him up for for Scotland as well, talking about his all
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around games, really good finishes.
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He's a Cali, he's pacey and obviously he's finishing as
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well. And again, like you say, we're
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not overly blessed for forward options or also we have forward
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options in the Scotland team that you know exactly what
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you're going to get from them. So I'm sure we're going to talk
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about it. But this, this camp in March, I
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think it's the opportunity, given that Clark will know
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ultimately what most of his squad is, let's be honest, for
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the summer. Probably 18 of exactly 23 or 26
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because. He's so loyal and that's the
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team he's got. Yeah, it's a great opportunity.
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I think there'll be a lot of players that come into this
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squad in March, like Mark Leonard as well, was getting
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linked, yeah. Yeah, he got there was a story
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yesterday about him potentially getting called up.
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I think I I said on the last podcast, I said wild card and
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you you went Mark Leonard, not that Mark Leonard.
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That's horrible show, No. I did that.
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I did not see as a horrible. I just said.
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You said that was really rude. Said it has maybe, maybe it was
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a bit rude, but it was, you know, it is the most competitive
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area of the pitch in terms of the Scotland squad.
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Yeah, obviously. And I think we, you also tapped
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Elliot. What?
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One of the one thing I'd. Say was one would get an FN but
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not both. But yeah, no, things are going
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good. Yeah, Ellie, what gave us a
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following Instagram the other day as well.
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So good lad. I'll be definitely support him a
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bit more. Now, yeah, but we'll talk about
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Mother in a minute once we've wrapped up the Scottish Cup
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stuff. So I, Dunfermline and Falkirk
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were the first teams into the semi final draw hasn't been made
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as of right now. So you guys are going to make
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tonight. Get me tonight.
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We we're just going to have to guess who's won out at party can
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sit man, Obviously sit man will be favourites there.
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Me and gorgeous. I will then.
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I think, I think there's an upside there.
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I genuinely think. There is, I think, fate bookies.
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Surely they'll. Be all well bookies, yeah, but
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in the Premiership St. Mirren have been Yeah, all
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again. In the cup, though.
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Yeah, well, all right, the cups, if they hadn't won the Cup, I
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think Stephen Robinson would probably be sacked.
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Yeah. So.
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But again, I think, I think I think in, in in the same way
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that I think you could kind of smell and upset in the air last
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night with Dunfermline against Aberdeen.
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Yeah, just the general mood music around Aberdeen and also
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St. Mirren just recently.
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The form just has not been there.
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I think Partick will be answering their job.
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It's crazy. Could.
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You imagine that would be like Hampden semi final of
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Dunfermline versus Partick? Yeah, goodness me, felon Falkirk
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that'd be that's I mean, they're they're rivals to degree.
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Yeah, so I say to the Greeks, holds tightly 5.
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Derby I think the best would probably be Falkirk and Celtic
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because I think they'd be the team that would give them the
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biggest run for. You're looking for the.
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I just want. Final get put out.
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Imagine like a Falkirk Dunfermline final.
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That's what I want to see, honestly.
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That's that's a shot of glory level.
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Same thing were mentioned there. Interesting game I blocks and
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last few hours has come to pass. Yeah, and Celtic didn't
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register. I mean we didn't see them
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register and we also noticed on the stats apps not a single
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shot. In 120.
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Not even a short target, a shot. Until the penalty.
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Shot until the penalty. Shot for that goal, but that's.
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A goal My Ada was ruled out. Which, which again, that looked
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so tight and obviously I, I appreciate when they do the kind
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of the angles and replays, the broadcast angles are different
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to what the V are looking at, certainly from the screen that
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we were looking at. Again, we're looking at a big
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projector. Maybe wasn't a sharp image.
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It's hard to see. I think it was from scales flick
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on maybe. I think he's he's come back from
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an offside position to flick the ball on.
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Yeah. And then when he headed it and I
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was like, offside there. So I think he's come from an
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offside position. Yeah, I guess so tight.
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And then obviously Rangers scored and that was ruled out.
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But I mean, you, you said at the time you're like, I think Mark
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VAR might intervene here. And I mean, you got the replay.
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You only handballed it twice. Yes, when you saw when you when
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you it was it was you like it. Like I said, like I said in the
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pub, it was one of those ones when you see it from the wide
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angle, the scramble inside the so many players, it's pinging,
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it's deflecting the ball ends off the back of the net and I
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turned turned to James. I said this has got AVAR rule
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out written all over it. And then, like you said, you
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should be there to be fair as him.
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I guess the defender tries to hook it clear and his arm just
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happens to be there. It comes off his arm.
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It was like this looks like he's basically.
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Punched it into the net, yeah, but.
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You can things he goes to be celebrating with his arms.
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In the air, convinced. With celebrations it.
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Really knows though. No, but there's no.
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This goes crazy like Bar is, yeah, if you make it because Bar
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is going to rule it out. But like, he was so convinced
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with celebration. I was like, oh, maybe not Like
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he looks quite adamant that's going to stand.
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Then you saw the replay and I, like a chuckle, went around the
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pub like everyone was watching because they're like, that's so
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ridiculous. Yeah.
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So game, game to pass 120 minutes played.
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Celtic have not had a shot on target.
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Rangers was a good game like. Rangers like for.
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For a nil, nil. No, it was, it was one of those
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nil Nils. It was good fun.
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It was intense. Well, I think obviously.
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Rangers point of view because they were just the most anytime
15:03
you looked up dominant, they were around the box yeah,
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Celtics 18 yard box was just penned in and you just couldn't
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really like just break the dam there and get in.
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I mean obviously they were they were missing but I think I think
15:16
it was hinted at in the pre match with Martin O'Neill.
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But like obviously Cal McGregor and Karen Tierney both missing.
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Like obviously no one at that club, at Celtic, this season's
15:26
had a brilliant season, apart from maybe Negrin is the one.
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That's the one outstanding player there.
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Sometimes been a scapegoat for Celtic fans.
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But you know, even even with that context, like these are
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still big, big, big players for Celtic to be missing for a trip
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to Ibrox. And you're right, they they,
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they, they really struggled to get any foothold in the game all
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game. Yeah, I, I think I heard a stat
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when I was you. You showed me obviously the,
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the, the, the scenes that came after the game, which we'll get
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onto, but it was something like they're a fourth ever when Ibrox
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in the Scotch Cup and their first, oh, since 1950s.
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Yes, I'm in crisis. Yeah.
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And they? Probably didn't meet, I mean.
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Yeah, we meet in the semifinals usually.
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Yeah, yeah, they. Forgot to heat up the balls
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this. Time.
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Yeah, they keep the balls, that is.
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It joking for legal reasons. That was a joke.
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That was if there's anyone from this, that was a joke.
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Yeah. So I penalty shout.
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Rangers, having been on top for the whole game, managed to put
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two over the bar. Including Tavernier, like I
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said, again, libel, the meme of penalty to Rangers.
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Tavernier scores. He's the one that puts it over.
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Yeah, yeah. So I get like, like we said
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there, so Celtic go to Ibrox, play 120 minutes, don't have a
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single shot on goal and then Rangers, the keeper doesn't even
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have to make a save in the shootout and.
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Both. Both penalties over the.
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Bar and it's Thomas Kevan Shara. Shara.
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Yeah, that scores the winner and then just bedlamber UPS.
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Obviously Celtic progress to the semi finals, the Celtic and the
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first time they've had the broom on stand in a while, which is
16:59
disappointing, is a spectacle. You know, it really helps,
17:02
Scott. It's an advert for Scottish
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football. You know, same in Edinburgh,
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Darby, when you've got the full away end, it just looks good and
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I think the Celtic fans obviously spoil it.
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Spell onto the patch union bears then, which who are at the
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opposite end of the pitch behind the goals.
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Don't know the name at stand, but you know, opposite from the
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brilliant stand they come spelling onto the pitch and it
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looks like it's kind of fizzling out.
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But I mean, Celtic players aren't really helping themselves
17:26
in the way because not blaming the group, but that Thomas
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Vanchara, he's taking selfies with guys like you.
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Don't not naturally you would expect that again like Celtic,
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Celtic, I think it frankly all all teams that would win cup
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game at Ibrox, they'd go to their own fans like that static.
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No, no, go to your own fans. And it's the fact they've gone
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up the other end and then they found their fans on the pitch.
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Yeah. And then before you know it,
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again you see the clips. I think O'Neil as well.
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He's he's on the pitch and he's got fans running up to him
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grabbing a selfie with him. And again, in that moment,
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you're like, what can you do? Yeah, they they make, they get
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off the pitch of. Fair, I can accosted someone for
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a selfie today. You did, yes.
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Do share Share with. So basically I was saying the
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football realm, there was a big result for Scotland, the rugby
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yesterday, man. The biggest result, a record,
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was. A huge result and captain.
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See only two Pilates. You know, 2 Pilates.
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I mean, thank you for that. Yeah, I was.
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Yeah. I've got it wrong every time
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I've said it, so go ahead and save me there.
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One more time. See you only two.
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O'clock Sione tipple or two. I was walking the dog down to
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Stockbridge and I turned the corner and there he is just
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killing about in the street by his son.
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So as you know, I'm, yeah, I'm crazy fan Shara, but I didn't
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really give Sione much an option there.
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Yeah, come on, let me take a fool.
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So do your impression of what you said about your dog.
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He's saying no, no, he's like, he's like, he was just a good
18:47
impression. But, you know, he had his wee
18:49
boy and he was like, oh, let's see all this guy's doggy and
18:52
like. Do the voice, do the do the
18:55
voice? What's that said?
18:56
Blue look, my son, nobody, he said.
18:59
He's like my son. He's like, leave my son a little
19:02
doggy. I was like, I was like.
19:05
Great. But things Ziggy can be, yeah,
19:07
Ziggy was like not face at all. So.
19:09
He seems like a sound guy. Just to very quickly be on this
19:12
tangent, did you see the moment between him and Princess Anne
19:15
yesterday after the game? This is because, again, if you
19:18
saw it the last time after the Calcutta Cup win, when we beat
19:21
England, Sione goes up to get presented with the trophy and
19:24
he's a very obviously very emotional person, a very big
19:26
person, big personality, big guy.
19:28
He just instinctively goes in to hug Princess Anne, which
19:31
obviously with like Finners watch the crown, you know, like
19:34
royal protocol not allowed. You can't do that.
19:36
You can't do that. You can't hug Princess Anne.
19:38
I love it. So that became a bit of a
19:39
talking point after that game. So then yesterday we beat
19:42
France, record result, biggest win over France ever.
19:45
We stuck 90 points. Unbelievable.
19:48
Unbelievable goes up and then like you say, they both see each
19:51
other, they both gotta go hug. Nah.
19:53
And it was. Just class formal, classic.
19:58
Kept it, kept it, kept it formal.
20:00
And then yeah, I got the self with him.
20:02
I know I'm going up it myself. Yeah.
20:03
And I make Grant and Hanley like 10.
20:05
Oh yeah, come on. I was like, what's going on?
20:07
I felt like I was like a simulation.
20:08
I was like, you know, Scotland captain being on Scotland
20:10
combinated as Walker so. Grant and Hanley come on the
20:13
podcast, please. Yeah, I don't know.
20:15
I was too nervous. I was like.
20:17
Neighbor. Yeah, Grant.
20:21
Anyway, right. So what we're talking about
20:23
this? Oh, yeah, Yeah.
20:24
And like, yeah. And I think this, there was then
20:26
the ringing bears, it looked like they're going off, then
20:28
come back up. There's like flares getting
20:30
chucked in there. Was an invisible wall for a bit,
20:31
and then. You meanie joke because the
20:33
commentators always go, oh, these are things you don't like
20:35
to see and you always think these are scenes we love to see.
20:37
But then when we saw the fans coming right across and the
20:39
players going to be like, actually, these are scenes you
20:41
don't like to see. You know the certain fans have
20:43
got the spectacle the Brimon stand again you know they've a
20:46
guest abuse that privilege in a way but porn onto the patch and
20:50
then you just yeah, it's just it's not a great look.
20:53
But I mean overall I mean you touched on it.
20:55
You said it just shows how much a pressure cooker Scottish
20:58
football is a season yeah, 1 result like that has like to
21:01
like, you know an outburst I box and you do feel like that stuff
21:06
is bubbling over from the league and the way a. 100% go it.
21:09
It definitely speaks to just how much kind of general disruption
21:13
there's been in Scottish football this season.
21:14
You know, the fact that you've got our resurgent Motherwell
21:17
who've come out, who've come out of nowhere and who are doing
21:20
fantastically well. Obviously we can speak about it,
21:22
but also they they, they were derailed a little bit yesterday
21:26
with that one. But obviously with Hearts being
21:27
so fantastic, getting that lead at the top of the table, there
21:30
was a real intense energy and I think you could tell it, even if
21:33
we were just watching it on TV, you could feel the atmosphere
21:35
from that stadium, the desperation from both sets of
21:38
fans to get the win because it meant so much more to both of
21:42
them. Every time Celtic, Rangers, not
21:44
bloody so I can. I can feel how loud it is in the
21:47
stadium just watching on the telly.
21:48
Precisely. And again, it just speaks to,
21:51
like I said, just how much pressure there is on both of
21:53
those clubs this season that there can just be that amount of
21:56
head loss from all involved at the end of a game.
21:59
Like that head losses about that was that was generational head
22:02
loss. And it'll put like genuinely, I
22:04
think it'll put real doubt in the minds of Rangers fans and
22:08
Rangers players and Rangers, the Rangers management, the fact
22:10
that you know, you've had two games against Celtic in the last
22:13
week, not one either of them should have won both of them.
22:15
You've got two goal lead in the first one and let it let it come
22:18
back to two each. And then today, like we said,
22:20
dominant from start to finish and don't win.
22:22
So like just going to put a doubt in the mind as to what
22:25
happens next. Yeah, and then Danny Rowland to
22:26
you after the game was there? Yeah, quite something,
22:29
obviously. Just kind of the truth.
22:31
World that we live in, Yeah, trying.
22:33
To shy away. From fingering.
22:36
Just trying to shy away from anything.
22:37
What was the question? Yeah, to see.
22:39
Season at the end and he went. I didn't see anything in
22:41
penalties. I didn't.
22:42
I didn't see anything. I was on the tunnel, No,
22:46
obviously Celtic staff I think was one of the the first ones to
22:49
get attacked. There's a blood and then I was
22:51
about to say yeah. Well, that was from transfer,
22:53
that was from the game, but. Yeah, I think again.
22:55
It's look, it's one of the it's, it's one of those ones that all
22:57
will come out in the fullness of time, I'm sure.
22:59
I mean, I'm sure you remember the initial headlines after 2016
23:03
when Hibs Rangers played in the Scottish Cup final.
23:05
There's a lot of headlines about how many assaults had happened
23:08
on the pitch. And you know, there's a lot of,
23:10
there'll be a lot of things that will, it'll become clear in the
23:13
fullness of time, I'm sure. I've just got 1 old farm game to
23:15
go left. If there's also, I'm sure
23:18
that'll be a quiet affair. Yeah, yeah.
23:20
Nice calm one. Yeah, so I obviously Simon and
23:24
participle tonight, we don't know what happens.
23:25
You will don't. By the time this comes out,
23:28
we'll know what the four teams and the draw for the semi
23:30
finals. So that'd be really good fun.
23:32
Looking forward to that return to league action.
23:35
So much praise on Motherwell over the last couple of weeks.
23:38
I. Was really feel really big them
23:39
up I. Feel like praise as was taken.
23:43
It was you know, it was it was to the point people were really
23:46
starting to go to the point where I actually said we're
23:49
going to do. I had a funny segment plan for
23:51
this episode where we're going to go can Motherwell do you
23:53
still want Hearts to win the league?
23:54
And I'll go no. And oh, you don't want Hearts to
23:56
win. And I I want Motherwell to win
23:57
and I go oh, so like so wise and, you know, so different.
24:01
But yeah, obviously Motherwell have finally been stopped in
24:05
their tracks. And it was by Dundee for the
24:08
teams. Yeah.
24:08
I mean, I mean it's not, I mean it's by means not, it's not
24:11
over, but you know, when they really put them on the hunt for
24:15
Celtic Rangers. They would have been right
24:17
behind them, yeah, and especially with the draw between
24:20
between Celtic and Rangers. Yeah, but at dense park.
24:23
Are we saying, are we saying this is the start of the
24:24
narrative that Stephen Presley should be the next Celtic
24:26
manager? A lot.
24:28
A lot that I just see. A few of them too.
24:31
I think Motherwell fans will be loving it if Stephen Presley is
24:35
the next manager. Not Yens.
24:37
Yens can state you can have Stephen Spain.
24:39
But. I'm, I mean, yeah, for like,
24:41
like Stephen Presley said, for a job team, they've had some
24:44
cracking results. Yeah, beat Motherwell, beat
24:47
Celtic and Rangers this season. And yeah, the team probably at
24:51
least expected to do it. Although Yensworth Lasso did say
24:56
in his post match that it's the team that probably given him the
25:00
most trouble of all the teams and they've troubled them every
25:03
game they played the season. Face again.
25:05
Again as well, I think if you look at you look at the stats
25:07
from that game as well. I didn't watch full game, saw
25:10
the highlights, but did seem to be similar to most other
25:14
Motherwell games this season where Motherwell dominating
25:16
possession, had more shots, more extra.
25:17
More everything. It wasn't an off day.
25:19
Exactly. It was an aberration.
25:21
Precisely. This doesn't necessarily have to
25:23
be the end of the road or a derailing of anything.
25:25
It's a continuation. And sometimes you get games like
25:28
that where it just doesn't fall for you.
25:29
You lose the game. But all the metrics were there
25:31
that it's they were still the performance still seemed pretty
25:33
good. Yeah, nobody was expecting that
25:35
definite coupon Buster. For some people, I'm sure it
25:38
wasn't. Do you even?
25:40
Watch No. Better.
25:40
Experience, yes, including on a coupon that had Italy beating
25:43
England in the Six Nations. So thanks, Motherwell.
25:46
Yeah, first time ever. England first time ever in 33.
25:52
Yeah, you just needed. Motherwell to be.
25:54
Done the best The best odds on the thing on your. 1.85 odds,
25:58
yeah. Yeah, crazy.
26:00
Thanks guys. So I we've covered Scottish Cup,
26:02
we've covered league action, One last opportunity to touch on the
26:05
Scottish national team. Just always a good opportunity.
26:07
Yeah, always a good opportunity. The World Cup, we're going to
26:11
talk coming up. Yeah, we're going to how far
26:13
away? It's 100. 90 days, 99 days until
26:16
our first match, if I'm not mistaken, because I think it was
26:19
100 days yesterday. Yeah, so, so not far to go and.
26:24
You know what the bet the the best thing I was saying this to
26:26
you earlier but so I've been out of the house last week but I'm
26:29
going to be back in the office tomorrow got messages last week
26:32
that big package has arrived at the front door of the office.
26:33
For me it is the Lego World Cup trophy, which it only goes to
26:38
show there is no limit to how much I'm going to spend on stuff
26:42
with a World Cup logo on it. So.
26:43
I'll get that tomorrow because I'm trying to go to well because
26:47
we're both going to all the games and the bank account is
26:50
already struggling. Instead of getting the Lego win
26:52
which was £150, we got this one which was.
26:55
The new one won't us by. Yeah, yeah, obviously Gianni
26:58
and. Fantino, thank you again.
27:00
No that was £20 off a TikTok shop so I hope it looks good in
27:04
in the set. I could not afford the Lego one.
27:07
But you had a voucher. But yeah, I saw I what's what's
27:13
excitement building there is is just creeping up news on the
27:18
opponent front, shall we say. Morocco have parted ways with
27:22
their manager. He's actually stepped aside for
27:25
their African Cup of Nations final loss to Senegal.
27:30
Obviously he took them to a semi final at the last World Cup in
27:33
Qatar. He's done quite well.
27:34
He's done quite well getting them to the final of this half
27:37
con. It was obviously Morocco.
27:38
So there's a lot of expectation. So controversy, yeah, that was
27:41
great. I don't think you could.
27:42
More see that? More See.
27:43
Yeah, more you do or don't want to see.
27:45
More drama. So, but yeah, his his departure
27:49
came with the quote from him, which was the team needs a fresh
27:53
face, a different energy and a new perspective with a new
27:57
coach. I think the team needs a new
27:59
lease of life before the World Cup, a new vision to continue
28:02
progressing. My decision to leave as part of
28:06
the team's evolution, now they have replaced them with Mohammed
28:11
U Abbey, there is obviously the predecessor. 20s coach.
28:15
Yeah, yeah, Pre won the World Cup of them.
28:17
So it's yes, Walid regular UE that's going out or Mohammed U
28:23
Abbey coming in. Yeah, sure, that pronunciation
28:26
was spot on as well. I suppose I YouTube that it was
28:30
so, but yeah, it's a. Shock.
28:32
It's a shock. I mean, Morocco, our team has
28:35
been doing really good things recently.
28:37
Yeah, I think I speak. I think #7 in the world right
28:40
now #8 something like. That should have been a pot one
28:42
team. Yeah, that's it.
28:44
So. That should have been 100.
28:46
Percent. I speak first of all when they
28:47
say. I think I would far prefer them
28:50
stepping away from the consistency of a tribexed
28:54
manager that's done well over the last couple of years into
28:57
the unfamiliar territory of on the 20s coach who has done good
29:01
things. But I mean as past.
29:03
Football, it's different. Yeah, so.
29:05
I think, I think also, while also appreciating that they'll
29:08
have a number of games, obviously we've got 3
29:11
potentially 4 friendly games between now and the World Cup.
29:13
Morocco will have ultimately the same.
29:15
So from us, from a kind of scouting and analysis
29:18
perspective, we will have a fair bit of evidence built up to how
29:22
they're settling in with this new coach.
29:24
So I think we should hopefully still be pretty prepared for
29:26
what's to come. And impose himself on a team.
29:29
No, it's not. It's really surprising, even
29:32
just from a purely selfish perspective.
29:34
Like if you were in a job that had the opportunity to go take
29:38
your country to a World Cup in three months time, surely you're
29:41
doing that. I think you walk away after.
29:43
Because I thought he was sacked because an employee.
29:47
I thought, I thought he was sacked because there was a lot
29:49
of talk when it was the Afghan final that there was, there was
29:53
some reports where if he doesn't win the half coin, he's getting
29:56
sacked. Then obviously they didn't
29:58
somehow. From what I read and this you
30:00
know the depends if it's true he made the decision to leave and
30:04
he was convinced to try and stay and they couldn't convince him
30:07
to stay and his statement kind of backs up really.
30:10
Or maybe he was pushed. You know, if you don't resign,
30:13
we're going to sack you. Yeah.
30:15
Keep your dignity. Who knows?
30:16
I. Think you did a bad job.
30:17
I mean, that final was like you said, like you know, when you
30:21
could have won or lost that. I think there's there's other
30:23
stuff going on there and. I don't think.
30:24
Well, yeah, first. 1st at the managers feet.
30:26
First African team ever to get to a World Cup semi final in
30:30
2022 and then obviously they. Were they were everyone's second
30:32
team And yeah, 22 for sure. And now in AFCON, we were
30:36
obviously all hate watching them and, you know, they were one
30:40
kick away from wouldn't it? Obviously that would have been
30:42
very controversial. The penalty, the penalty was not
30:46
a penalty. And I think even Chiefs are
30:49
higher ups at the AFCON. We're calling it embarrassing,
30:51
but, you know, I think justice was done in the end and it
30:55
didn't win it. But yeah, it's really
30:57
surprising. Not long to go.
30:59
As you say, only four, four games, but they're friendly.
31:02
So it's different to, you know, competitive match you'll.
31:06
See and then we'll see how they kick off against Brazil.
31:08
I know exactly well five games for the playoffs yeah so yeah,
31:11
yeah well return to the Scotland camp.
31:14
We had spoke in the previous podcast with injuries mounting
31:16
up got another potential one can Tierney could be for a little
31:20
bit I think rumours of a potential broken foot.
31:23
We're Googling what the recovery time for time to sport my broken
31:26
foot is. 3 months, so 100. Just another 100 days.
31:30
The World Cup that gives us. Maybe a weak wiggle?
31:33
Room a weak wiggle room but not great.
31:35
It's bad, hopefully. Not again, like, like like we
31:38
were saying earlier, obviously none of us are, none of us are
31:40
Doc, we're not doctors, we're not medically trained.
31:42
And again, I think, but I think the one thing we do know as
31:45
football fans is there's lots and lots of different bones in
31:48
the foot. And obviously it's going to
31:50
depend on which one's been broken, how badly, etcetera.
31:53
Obviously I'm a little bit older than you guys.
31:55
I'm old enough to remember, you know, England before one of
31:57
their major tournaments when David Beckham broke one of the
32:00
metatarsals in his foot. And I'm pretty sure it was the
32:03
Sun. On the front page of their paper
32:05
before the World Cup, they printed a basically scale model
32:08
of Beckham's foot that you could rub for good luck to to make his
32:13
meth parcel heal in time. So, yeah, there was it was a
32:16
full summer for all of the the narrative around football in
32:20
England was about a tiny little bone in David Beckham's foot.
32:23
So we will do that. Maybe the Daily Record or the
32:25
Sun will do KTS. If Cantini's going to score a
32:29
couple more goals like that, the World Cup against Denmark, I'll
32:31
be I'll rub his fit one of them, yeah.
32:34
What's your driver in? This house will be lining up.
32:37
If you want a massage, let us know.
32:40
Yeah. So I mean apart from him though,
32:42
I can't think on any recent bank.
32:44
So things have happened. Yeah, I think.
32:46
We'll see. McDonald's still out.
32:47
McDonald's. Yeah, McDonald's still out.
32:49
He's doing a spy quad. Inflammation injury, yeah, he's
32:53
kind of been living with for a little bit and they've just kind
32:57
of made the decision that I think.
32:58
Yeah, it's the same with John McGinn, where he maybe if it
33:01
wasn't the World Cup, would maybe push himself to get back
33:04
100%. But I think with John McGinn
33:07
said it with the EUR, he was like almost burned out.
33:11
And this time he's going to feel fresh, hopefully.
33:14
That's 100% like I I genuinely, I would happily have all the
33:18
guys injured right now, like get them, get them injured, give
33:20
them a nice wee break, little preseason, you know, to build
33:23
back their build their fitness back up few games the end of the
33:25
season off the off to the World Cup.
33:28
We touched on there, but John McGann been burned at the last
33:31
year. I mean, I think we've spoke
33:32
about this in the past as well. And I can't remember if we spoke
33:34
about it in the last podcast, but I had an interview with
33:38
Daryl Curry and I think it was Michael Stewart.
33:40
And I've seen that. And he actually they kind of
33:44
said what I've been thinking because I feel like there has
33:48
been a pattern of John McGann, who is a regularly very reliable
33:52
player for Scotland, quite often one of our go to men.
33:56
His summer performances in the international window in June
33:59
have quite often fallible part. Don't remember I'm doing too
34:02
much. The first year was second year
34:04
was he was not really that anything not I remember the game
34:08
at Dublin. We were played the northern walk
34:13
of Ireland, sorry, and the Nations League.
34:15
I think it was just after the World Cup, the World Cup
34:18
playoffs, where again the summer game actually.
34:20
Michael Buffet, Me. Yeah, that.
34:22
That long range one against Gordon three nil defeat.
34:25
But I just remember thinking watching John McGann in that
34:27
game going he must be absolutely cooked.
34:30
Because this is not the John McGann when no one may expect
34:32
because because. He didn't even get a break.
34:34
No, I mean he doesn't get a break.
34:35
And do you end the season back into the EUR Nations League and
34:39
then back to the season? Yeah.
34:41
And I know, I know, I'm just echoing what they said, like I'm
34:45
guessing you guys agree this because based on what you've
34:47
just said, there's AI think it is a good thing he's getting
34:50
this little break this because, you know, he said himself he's
34:53
like the first thing I thought it was World Cup when I got the
34:55
entry. You know, I don't blame him, but
34:58
like I think this really could benefit him because he'll be
35:01
coming into the World Cup off the back of things and be moms
35:03
on the sidelines. You'll get a nice
35:05
reintroduction. Like you said to.
35:07
Building up his fitness and that and we might hopefully peek in.
35:11
Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, ready to go
35:13
100%. When the rest because I get, I
35:15
get, I think like like, like you're saying there, the most
35:18
important thing now is just that everyone is fit and healthy and
35:22
well and ready to go. Because obviously, you know,
35:24
we're all, we're all speaking about this World Cup opportunity
35:27
is going to once in a lifetime opportunity for us as fans.
35:29
Obviously you got. It's not once in a life.
35:31
But you know, but you know what I mean?
35:33
Like 28 years is such a long time.
35:35
There's so many folks that weren't even alive the last time
35:37
we. Yeah, my brother was born in 95.
35:39
This is it, right? And he doesn't remember that.
35:41
And I'm. In 97.
35:43
An adult, you guys. Barely remember it.
35:45
I won't dox my own date of birth.
35:48
I do remember the last World Cup in 1998 just.
35:51
So what was you in the top acts? Exactly.
35:53
I was literally, literally my first ever football shirt was
35:56
that France 98 shirt, which I'm very, which I'm very proud of,
35:59
you know what I mean? So for, for these guys, they,
36:02
they deserve this opportunity to go to a World Cup.
36:04
And I think it would just be absolutely heartbreaking if any
36:07
of them were to miss it through it.
36:08
So I'm desperate that they all go.
36:10
And like we said there, you want them to be able to go in a way
36:12
that they can do it, do themselves justice.
36:14
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but as well, I don't
36:17
know by when you're talking about guys that deserve to go to
36:19
World Cups. Andy Robertson, goal and assist.
36:22
Lovely. I'll go.
36:22
Lovely. Reminiscent, almost.
36:24
I know it wasn't the exact same sort of goal, but reminded me of
36:26
his first goal under Clark. Yeah, if I was like the boxing.
36:30
Yeah, Cyprus, that was. Like Cyprus, wasn't it?
36:31
Tucked into the corner quite well.
36:33
Good to see him get a start for Liverpool again, even if it's
36:34
just in the cup. Yeah, I mean, he could have gone
36:38
away because there's rumours of him going to Athletic Madrid and
36:42
and. Then.
36:42
Spars and Spars was the one that was deadlined there near bouts
36:47
and he could have went and played 50 games, but it's
36:50
probably, again, selfishly, it's probably good that he's been
36:54
still. Want him playing some SO.
36:56
Yeah, he's no, but it's a good amount.
36:57
Like you, it's probably where he'll be again.
37:00
Like hopefully John McGinn peaking in fitness where he's
37:03
not very. Just like you're just walking
37:06
that tightrope of wanting them to like not wrapping them in
37:09
bubble wrap and not wanting them to play too much.
37:12
You don't. Want them to be like, yeah
37:14
again, not fit for the World Cup either, yeah.
37:17
I think as well the thing, the really, really nice thing about
37:20
that period, like you said, when there was the transfer of rumors
37:23
by the end of the window where he might have gone to Spurs.
37:25
What I really, really liked, I'm sure you guys enjoyed it as
37:28
well, was just seeing the kind of outpouring of Liverpool fans
37:30
online. Very different obviously to the
37:33
scenario with Trent Alexander Arnold even there was a fair bit
37:35
of comparison. But again, the reaction from
37:39
Liverpool fans being look, we understand why he'd want to
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leave. Obviously he's not playing every
37:43
game. Kirk has his first choice like,
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but good God, he's been a good player for us, a legend.
37:49
Well, this is it. And again, it's it's good
37:51
sometimes to take stock and step back and think actually, God,
37:54
you know what you will go down as a legend of that club.
37:57
You know, he's literally won everything there is to win
37:59
Champions League, Premier League, everything there is to
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win. And you, you, you were saying
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earlier in the pub, obviously his post match interview.
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Where I was going to say just like in terms of talking to
38:07
Stocking, seeing what he's achieved, yeah.
38:09
You know, he was asked whether or not he's proved a point
38:12
tonight by, you know, Gordon, an assistant, but not he might get
38:15
a starting position for carcass and he just said, look, I've got
38:18
nothing to prove, which is a fairpoint.
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You know, he's achieved so much. Look.
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At my locker, look at, look at, look at the medals, look at what
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I've achieved for this club like and the one thing he's missing
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the legacy. Right there only.
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Only a World Cup left, yeah. Yeah.
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So that's always led to me to say so.
38:31
But but again as well, like I liked him.
38:33
I don't know if you guys saw it, but Kenny Douglasch in January.
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On the warm up 7th. Yeah, on the warm up said
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basically he hoped Andy Robertson stayed, not just
38:42
because he's he's a good player for Liverp Pool and he's done
38:44
really well, but he wanted him to stay, didn't want him to
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leave in January because he said he deserves 100%.
38:50
And I think that's exactly what you're going to see this summer,
38:53
which again, like we said, befitting of the player and the
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man and what he's done for that club.
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So yeah, well, he can be. He can get his send off and
39:00
send, send him straight off the rock up.
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Really was one of the first kind of modern fullbacks in in in the
39:06
new era. Him and our Alexander Arnold
39:09
kind of, Yeah. Reinvent revolutionized.
39:10
Money with like Manny and Salah yeah ahead of them they're just
39:14
unbelievable for that you're. Still a travesty.
39:16
Didn't get nominated for the Balandor in 20.
39:18
Yeah, 1829. Was the first thing I checked
39:20
when Mcdominy got nominated because I was like, well surely
39:22
Robertson was and he actually wasn't that.
39:24
That is kind of it. Wasn't the first one since I'm
39:26
Mccoist. Yeah, no, that shocked me.
39:28
But yeah, Robertson is a good goal and I play that scored a
39:31
goal. He got his first goal in Italy
39:33
here today. Yeah, Verona not beating Lewis
39:36
Fergusons Bologna. In Bologna as.
39:38
Well, yeah, so good result for a team that's like struggling at
39:40
the bottom of this table. I think it's 31.
39:42
I ended up. Yeah.
39:44
Yeah. Great to do 1.
39:45
I don't know if one of them was dislodged.
39:47
Yeah, well, but anyway, get by, grab the second and it was, you
39:51
know, it was a nice little striker school, nothing overly
39:54
spectacular, but you want some confidence.
39:56
Yeah, basically I'm, you know, get his first goal in Italy and
39:58
hopefully I can kick on from there because he's someone I
40:01
would expect to see in this squad, which will be getting
40:03
released in the next couple of weeks, maybe next week before we
40:07
travel, before we host Japan and then travel down to Liverpool
40:10
for either coast. So yeah, aye.
40:13
We've covered everything there, though it's been a fairly busy
40:16
couple of days. Yeah, yeah.
40:17
So I think we'll call it there. But Gordon, glad to have you on.
40:20
I'm sure it's not the last time we'll have you and talking to
40:24
just can't. Wait to do this in Boston.
40:26
Hey, yeah, if we can get, yeah, one more check bag, we'll get
40:29
this. Yeah, Mammoth studio of all this
40:32
equipment out and yeah, maybe we can do a podcast in between
40:36
games one, maybe 87 now. Not the class, but anyway, yeah,
40:40
it's been a good one. I hope, hope people are enjoying
40:42
the the show and the way we're now doing this new dynamic.
40:45
It's been good fun, Absolutely brilliant.
40:46
Good Jackies and Moses in the next one.