Latest / Eye Opener Society / First Interview Reveals: Melissa’s Gifts, Ghosts & Mojo Bags
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- 0:00Welcome to Without a Candle. We are your hosts. Hey guys, I'm Carla. And I'm Carly.
- 0:06Let's just jump on in, shall we?
- 0:09All right, guys. We are here with Melissa today.
- 0:13I'm super excited. So Melissa is Gary's wife of Eye Opener Society.
- 0:19And we are very blessed because she hasn't even interviewed on her own husband's podcast.
- 0:26So we are her first interview. So thank you so much for... You'll be great with
- 0:31us. I appreciate that. Thank you.
- 0:34That made it one last minute. Well, we didn't have to twist your arm too hard. Yeah.
- 0:37So... Yeah. So, do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself,
- 0:42Melissa? Carrie's wife.
- 0:44Carrie's wife. Yeah. No.
- 0:48That's probably as good as the guess of my introduction at this point because
- 0:51I have no idea. That's important.
- 0:53Sometimes it takes some comfort and then some more self-discovery and just,
- 0:57you know, some of that. A lot more self-discovery in the future.
- 1:00True Carly taking care of business on the side there.
- 1:04I'll just ignore this shit. I don't hear anything outside of us, right?
- 1:08Um, but so we'll first start off by saying that you guys have been down here a couple of times. Yeah.
- 1:16And we are thrilled that you guys just pack up basically on a freaking whim.
- 1:25Um, and come see us the way you do. Like people just don't do that often.
- 1:32Yeah. Right. You guys are awesome.
- 1:34It's amazing. amazing and even though this chance this
- 1:37like we didn't get a chance to hang out shit i honestly any of
- 1:40them we don't get a lot of time because there's just just
- 1:43stuff so much yeah just a willingness to like be here yeah that's such a blessing
- 1:50so thank you and you jumping in and helping the way you do as well so like that
- 1:56means a lot too because you just see like this needs to be done and I'm just going to,
- 2:00you know, so thank you for that. It means a lot.
- 2:04Um, I go ahead. When you first.
- 2:09Made the decision to come down the first time what were some thoughts behind
- 2:14it like before you even made it here yeah so basically he it was like if he wants to do something.
- 2:24Gary for you know his passions or whatever and like or if i want to do something
- 2:30for mine then we try to make it happen and he wanted to come down here and meet
- 2:35you guys and do that first, you know,
- 2:37podcast on the road. And I was like, okay, let's do it.
- 2:42Let's jump in. Passenger princess.
- 2:44Get my spot. Get my snacks. Get the road. Right. Cool. That's what I think.
- 2:50I love going to new places. And he said it was a little town.
- 2:55So I was like, oh, I love little towns. I wonder how many cute things they're going to have there.
- 2:59That's awesome. That's cool. So what was that first weekend? Ride run. Yeah.
- 3:05Yeah, you guys got to experience Rod Run as your first trip down.
- 3:10It was a lot of fun. Yeah. A little hot.
- 3:13Yeah. Yeah. We need to get you guys to come down to our festival, Witch's Day Out.
- 3:18Yeah. And that's an experience. Yeah, we did miss that one.
- 3:22But we did the... The Moon Market. Yeah, you just stepped out to the Moon Market.
- 3:26That was amazing. Just because you guys wanted to come back.
- 3:28And I appreciate that so much. Yeah, it was so fun.
- 3:30Thank you. So when you came in the first time into Santana and then into the
- 3:36shop and meeting us for the first time, what do you remember from that day? Yeah.
- 3:43The first thing I remember was just coming into this town and you get this kind
- 3:49of immediate feeling of calm.
- 3:54There's just something about this place. It's cute. It's small. Everybody's friendly.
- 3:59You just get this sense of okay. Let's just sit back and relax.
- 4:05It's very different from where we live. Okay.
- 4:09All the hustle and bustle.
- 4:12Not so much It's like the energy. Okay. The energy here is so much more pleasant. Okay.
- 4:18So Gary shared a little nugget earlier about, very briefly, of some of your practice. Right.
- 4:27So some of your craft, right? Yeah. And we are aware that.
- 4:34To ask in ways that you only need to share what you're comfortable sharing um
- 4:39but what of that do you want to share and then i really get the sense like there is a really profound,
- 4:48um moment um testimony story
- 4:51if you will that um you you
- 4:55want to share maybe for the first time publicly
- 4:58um so that
- 5:01was a couple questions publicly carly can probably can break that up for you
- 5:05there's a story there oh start with what your practice is what do you do carly
- 5:11yeah i get excited yeah i'm not really exactly sure what i can do what to even
- 5:17call myself anything like that Since I was little,
- 5:21I always just knew things, felt things, saw things.
- 5:27It's a lot. It's a lot of things. And I was raised in an extremely Christian household.
- 5:36So even saying anything or acknowledging anything that I felt or saw or what
- 5:42have you, I'm having a lot.
- 5:46Okay. I was in a lot of trouble a lot when they were even around to notice us let's put it that way,
- 5:56um but yeah I got in a lot of trouble so
- 5:59I just kept they told me it was evil and
- 6:02so then I was scared because I'm like oh
- 6:05my god like you know this is how
- 6:08we're being raised you know I'm like i'm going to hell oh my god why why is
- 6:15the devil telling me all this stuff like what is happening why do i you know
- 6:22yeah these people and stuff like that and then i think i was.
- 6:29Seven the first time when like they
- 6:34acknowledged what I saw was real okay however
- 6:37it was it was just brushed
- 6:40off and it didn't happen okay basically yeah
- 6:44and we had we lived right across the street from our
- 6:47church in a townhouse and I kept telling
- 6:50my mom I'm like if some guy keeps
- 6:52coming in our house at night and he just work boots
- 6:57blue jeans I still remember exactly what he looks like yeah
- 7:00work boots blue jeans red um
- 7:04flannel shirt dark hair and
- 7:07like the 80s haircut you know like a feathered back
- 7:10kind of guy hairdo yeah and every he just walks up the steps goes in my baby
- 7:17sister's room looks at her in her crib then goes into my parents room and would
- 7:22stand at the bottom of their bed and stare at them every night and i'm like
- 7:27listen there's They're like, there's no guy.
- 7:30And then so, of course, they bring me over to the pastor because I'm obviously
- 7:33losing my shit. And he's like.
- 7:37You know he's like oh my god yeah um well
- 7:41the people that used to live in your house before you the
- 7:44husband came home found his wife in bed with somebody else cheating went outside
- 7:49and he killed himself right there with a gun in in the street so i'm like okay
- 7:57so why am i in trouble like why am I in trouble because I saw that yeah so,
- 8:05wow the pastor freaked out a little bit and then,
- 8:09nothing and then it went back to if I said something or anything you were just
- 8:15expected to like a dip yeah nothing happened so that was the first thing that
- 8:22was like I actually was like listen so I knew that I really didn't see that
- 8:27but again it was just like no
- 8:29so how has that been in
- 8:33your adult life going into your practice now um my friends like still always
- 8:38knowing if we went out or something and so I'm like the one time we went out
- 8:43and we're at the club you know because we're young and this guy's trying to
- 8:48handle my friend and and he is.
- 8:52I'm like just getting a really bad vibe. Yeah. Hitting on her, hitting on her.
- 8:58And I just went off to him and just touched him. And I said,
- 9:02you're full of shit. You work in construction.
- 9:04And he freaked out. He's like, who are you? How do you know?
- 9:09Okay. So they kind of got a little kick out of that. And sometimes they're like, bring guys around.
- 9:16Okay. So you're the reader. Yeah.
- 9:20Okay. So that was kind of like, you know, giggling all in fun.
- 9:24And we just made, poked fun at it because again, I was like,
- 9:26you know. You were not funny.
- 9:28Yeah. Then I met Gary in 2009.
- 9:32Okay. And he immediately just started telling me like, you know,
- 9:36you have gifts, right? And I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever.
- 9:40Yeah. Because I just, I just knew things and I just, I'm very blunt.
- 9:46So sometimes I just blurt stuff out. Yeah.
- 9:49Thawnt at mouth. and then um like just touching him he said he could feel my energy and i'm like oh,
- 9:59well then we went to salem okay and there's this um coven's corner or something and um he got my.
- 10:14But is she a medium or psychic or something like that?
- 10:20And so I was like, I love it. I was like, what am I? Yeah.
- 10:26She said, in my circle, you would be known as a hot priestess.
- 10:30Okay. And I was like, okay.
- 10:33And then I'm done. And she's like, I don't even know what that is.
- 10:38What does that mean? I was like, what does that mean? He said,
- 10:42I mean, you're really powerful and you can do a lot. and you just have to accept it yeah so probably,
- 10:51we're still going and like still up to this date and that's been years since
- 10:572009 i still have no idea i just know that yeah i can help people i feel like
- 11:04i was put here to help people and.
- 11:08If I have a feeling, I'm just going to go with it. But I still have no idea
- 11:12what I am, what I can really do.
- 11:18I'll even go about doing it or anything like that.
- 11:21So it's a lot because there's a lot of options that I can share with you.
- 11:28But as you get home over the next couple of days, and I just tell Lynn,
- 11:32don't be afraid to reach out and ask for like little homework
- 11:37like audiobook because i do audiobooks or
- 11:39book recommendations and you
- 11:43know keep digging because when a lot of my gifts shifted and was when i was
- 11:51made aware that one these practices have names right and um that other people.
- 12:02Have these concepts and practices too
- 12:06um not so much anymore that
- 12:08i was crazy because i knew what i was experiencing right i
- 12:12just didn't know there were things you know even now like i'm still
- 12:15learning new modalities i'm like that's a thing
- 12:17that's what i'm doing but i didn't know it was a thing yeah right
- 12:20yeah that's how it is i'm just like i
- 12:23have no idea and somebody please teach
- 12:26me well sometimes dude the
- 12:29learning comes when we stop trying to find
- 12:32the labels right you know when we stop putting
- 12:35the pressure on figuring out who we are and just accepting we are already we
- 12:42are already that helps change the perspective on like well what what am i right
- 12:50so definitely as you go down those rabbit holes,
- 12:54if you want a label as you find them, then wonderful, but you are already, you know?
- 13:01So don't think that you can't already be doing stuff, right?
- 13:04And you already are doing things. Do you want to hear that? I mean,
- 13:09I make Mojo bags for people. Apparently, they work really well.
- 13:14So don't cut yourself short. You just ignore it, apparently.
- 13:18You just credit yourself. So would you like to share that again? Sure. Yeah.
- 13:25We were calling them hex bags. The first one I ever made was for my daughter.
- 13:32And she was in the hospital, and she was very close to passing.
- 13:40She got tiny little blood clots from taking birth control and they were all
- 13:45in her lungs and so they had her in a medically induced coma and they're like
- 13:49all right we're gonna have to run her fair facts in virginia um she's probably
- 13:53gonna need a double transplant and i was like,
- 14:00what do i do this is my baby yeah um and like i didn't really want to leave
- 14:07the hospital but that and I was like,
- 14:10you know, I should go to Gary and I'm like, what can we, what can I do?
- 14:14Like, can we go somewhere and I can like.
- 14:19Try to get some like crystals because he had been like showing
- 14:22me crystals and like what they can you know they might help
- 14:25and stuff like that yeah and so we went
- 14:27all the way to bucks county it's like two three hour
- 14:30drive there's this really cute place there um
- 14:34so we go
- 14:37and i like really even though it's google and all and
- 14:40i like really got into it and i'm like
- 14:43you know i want to make sure i get like the best ones like the ones that are
- 14:48gonna work because i i can't do this without my babies you know like i was not
- 14:56willing to give her up no so we we went to this place.
- 15:01He's like spend however much you need because i'm a
- 15:04little weirdo trying to pinch pennies too as we
- 15:08are yeah so i you
- 15:11know i picked i went through whatever um usually
- 15:16for me if a stone is for me or for whatever purpose or intention um they immediately
- 15:24get extremely hot in my hand which it's it's weird but that's what happens yeah
- 15:29um so i went through got what i needed,
- 15:33made the bag um i
- 15:36believe i might have put a little bit of herbs in there i cannot remember which
- 15:39ones just whatever just came over there yeah
- 15:42and then i was like i need i need to i need
- 15:45to say something while i give this to her so i
- 15:49was like it needs to be in latin i have no
- 15:51idea why so i looked up how to say heal in latin and so the nurses thought out
- 15:58it's a little nuts but i just just kept putting it all over her and just saying
- 16:03i think it was sona like s-o-n-o yeah and i just kept saying it and saying it and then.
- 16:12I was not leaving. I kind of just stayed there.
- 16:16And I would come home for a couple hours in the morning and take a shower.
- 16:20And then I'd be back there. And so that day when I came home and showered,
- 16:27and then by the time I came back, they were like, oh, she's improving. I was like, what?
- 16:32That's amazing. Yeah. I was like, and I'm texting him. I'm like, holy shit.
- 16:38The bag works. like I this is crazy like it worked so that was the first time and since then,
- 16:47whenever anybody asks for bags I'm like well at least you know I can make these and,
- 16:54it's going to help you so sometimes when they ask for these bags I'm like this
- 16:59person does not, this is the last thing they need,
- 17:02I don't really want to do this but because I know that if it's going to happen and I can't
- 17:09be specific because i don't want that person to know you know that hesitated
- 17:15that they didn't need it and the fact of the matter is it's going to happen but it's never going to.
- 17:23Yes it's not going to be complete because they're not meant to have that,
- 17:27and i just know that inside of me so it was very it's still very hard for me to know that
- 17:35person has that and every time it's not going to work but yeah um and that's one of the things,
- 17:43that kind of sucks on this work yeah um and that's a growth process for you
- 17:50and if i'm allowed to speak openly of course um so,
- 17:59At some point, you've got to honor yourself as well.
- 18:03And it's tricky to know that we are of such practices and such wisdom and intuition.
- 18:15To know when to use discernment anyway. Yeah.
- 18:18And that sometimes no is the answer. Yeah.
- 18:23And because we also don't want to offer false hope.
- 18:29Right yeah right and um so
- 18:33perhaps there's a new bag gifted um with the intention of resetting that um
- 18:43that intention yeah and with maybe closure in that process does that make sense yes um and then And,
- 18:53you know, in that there may need to be conversation.
- 18:56It's like, hey, I need to honor myself and my own intuition and my own wisdoms.
- 19:04And I've not done that. Yeah. Right. And there's power in that too. Right.
- 19:10And once we're willing to step up to the plate in those tough situations,
- 19:17growth just excels even more.
- 19:20Yeah. You know, so imagine that that's your lesson that you need to learn before
- 19:28you can be more lions, before you can proceed.
- 19:33Because if you can't proceed now with discernment and honor what are you going
- 19:41to do when there's more what are you going to do when the gifts are unlocked
- 19:45you know does that make sense so don't cut yourself short,
- 19:53by not honoring by not honoring your truth there's two things with that that
- 20:01I want to highlight It's one,
- 20:03we've had a lot of conversation the last couple of days with a lot of people
- 20:07about valuing monetarily, but it's also valuing our time and our energy. Right.
- 20:13And then the other thing is knowing that when people come to us for help and
- 20:21they're not seeing what our help can do. Right.
- 20:25It's not our place to still continue trying to help when they need to figure it out on their own.
- 20:32They can listen and take all the mojo bags and hear what we have to say.
- 20:37But until they're ready to be on that journey, it's not going to do anything.
- 20:42And you knew that, right? Yeah. So, you know, it's all full circle.
- 20:50Appreciate it. And I never, um, I don't, we had planned that I would make these
- 20:55bags and maybe, um, sell them. Yeah.
- 20:58And I haven't sold any. And I was like, it's, and I wasn't even like trying.
- 21:05Yeah. And I was like, it's, and I finally told him like last month,
- 21:08I was like, listen, I can't sell these bags.
- 21:10I don't feel right selling these bags. I feel like if somebody...
- 21:16I made one for somebody at his work, and she just sent money with him.
- 21:21I'm like, you know, if that's what she wants to do, then that's what she wants to do.
- 21:25But I don't feel right charging people for this, no matter if I'm spending the money. Yeah.
- 21:32And so that's an amazing thing, too. That's an energy exchange as well.
- 21:37So on that same note, however, part of your decision to not charge and not make
- 21:46these ahead is that you are using intuition to take out the items, right?
- 21:51I am. So how do you pre-plan for that, you know?
- 21:57Because maybe that's the hang-up, right? Sometimes I have to,
- 22:02like if I don't meet the person, I usually like to meet the person and then
- 22:06they're not necessarily going to ask me.
- 22:09I want to meet them and feel what I feel about them.
- 22:12And then I'm going to try to figure out for myself what I need to put in that bag and what intention.
- 22:19Maybe they don't know they need it, but I'm going to put in the bag whatever
- 22:25when I feel them comes to mind that needs to be in the bag.
- 22:28Okay. So can I blow your mind just a little bit more? Sure. What if you don't need the things?
- 22:34What if it's purely attached to the intention, right?
- 22:39What if it's purely attached to the intention and the process of claiming the.
- 22:48Claiming the items individually and perhaps charging them of sorts with that intention, right?
- 22:56But in church, right, and in prayer, the thing was often a simple cloth,
- 23:03right, a prayer cloth, right, that was in the energy.
- 23:08So in our practice now, sometimes we'll ask people to put some things on the
- 23:12altar to be in the energy and to be attuned to what was happening, right?
- 23:18But just imagine that you don't need a damn thing.
- 23:21So visualization is what she's getting at.
- 23:25Yeah, and that intention setting, that ritual behind just sitting with things,
- 23:29right? And even maybe, yeah, visualization of you picking on things.
- 23:33But I almost just saw, I'm not quite sure what I just saw, but it was a clause.
- 23:40Do you currently do like any needlepoint work I don't do that but I do sometimes
- 23:51I will decorate the bags okay,
- 23:54this is almost just like a little a little symbol or something and the first one that,
- 24:03And I'm guessing it was needlepoint of some sort, just a simple stitch,
- 24:07just like a simple heart in the corner. I do.
- 24:11After you had finished. I put an M and make it a heart on anything I do,
- 24:17whether it's this kind of stuff or I like the craft.
- 24:22That's what I mark everything with, M with a little heart. Gotcha.
- 24:26And so maybe it's not even mojo bags moving forward, right?
- 24:31Maybe it's just a cloth, a piece of muslin or something like that that you've
- 24:37toned around with you through an hour or two or however long that person's on your heart.
- 24:46Setting that intention for the greater good for them.
- 24:50So that helps two things, right? finding um
- 24:53we sell financially that doesn't cost and
- 24:57then um sometimes those
- 25:00more simple things are um more
- 25:04accepted yeah right so if there's people in
- 25:07your life that you cross pass with and you give
- 25:09them this mojo bag they're gonna be like whoa what the fuck
- 25:12is that right um and you
- 25:15may not even want to use the word prayer call because it's about
- 25:18knowing your audience right but maybe you do sometimes i don't i actually do
- 25:23have other things that i just carry with me so if i meet somebody and i'm feeling
- 25:28like they just need something i bought these little cards and they have little
- 25:33messages on them and i just like i just hand them,
- 25:38and they just have like little messages.
- 25:44But that's all right just the thing and then talking a lot doesn't help either
- 25:48yeah um if i feel like somebody needs something they get something i might even
- 25:55go up to them and say hi can i help you and sometimes people are like what the
- 25:59but i i've done it down here sometimes like oh like,
- 26:05Can I give you a hug? And usually people are like a little shocked,
- 26:09but then they're like, sure. Yeah.
- 26:11And then I feel like I may have a smile and then I feel like.
- 26:15You shared just enough. Yeah.
- 26:17Right. They're happy now. They smile.
- 26:19Is there any last little tiny tidbit you want to share?
- 26:24Did you share the story that we were hoping you shared? Okay.
- 26:30Okay. We did. I mean, you could ask questions too.
- 26:34I'm good. I'm a production manager so if you get the story that's the good one,
- 26:40well thank you so much thank you letting us get to know you a little bit deeper
- 26:46as well not just for the podcast but just spend time with us dammit we barely got to talk,
- 26:54thank you we'll come down here whenever you want,
- 26:58good we already played the next one alright bye learn what I can yes right guys
- 27:04so that wraps up another episode of without a candle with carly and carla we
- 27:08appreciate you and we'll see you next time.