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#591 - King Iso talks Sobriety, Signing with Strange Music, Past Struggles, Nebraska, New Album & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 2: Bay Cap Podcast. Man, we got a special guest, king Io.
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Speaker 3: What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Brother, finally making it on the show. How you doing, man?
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Speaker 3: Man? Good, blessed? How about yourself?
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Speaker 2: Very good?
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Speaker 1: You must feel good?
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Speaker 3: Man?
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Speaker 1: Omaha is winning this week?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 4: Starting Bud Crawford my guy? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah did that?
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy too because like the you know, I was
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Speaker 1: talking like because a couple with all the weight moving
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Speaker 1: up and shit like it felt like it was gonna
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Speaker 1: be a Canelo fight. It felt like but I mean, damn,
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Speaker 1: I don't know man that was.
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Speaker 4: But is like that man, and he's he's always fucked
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Speaker 4: bigger guys. You know, I'm saying, like spar bigger guys,
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Speaker 4: you know, and uh, you know, if you're from the
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Speaker 4: city and you know him. You just you just know
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Speaker 4: he's like that. You know, I'm not going to say
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Speaker 4: that I just knew that it was going to be
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Speaker 4: like that, but I for sure it was like.
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Speaker 3: I think, I think, but I got this for sure.
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Speaker 1: What is like? Because obviously, like Omaha is a place
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Speaker 1: that I feel like it's kind of underrated in terms
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Speaker 1: of like this. Yeah, you know, I got a lot
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Speaker 1: of homies who ended up in Arizona from Omaha. It's
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like I mean, you know, in terms
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Speaker 1: of like national identity, it's the college and it's Aaron
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Speaker 1: Crawford and hip hop. It's really you.
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Speaker 3: Know, yes, sir, yes, sir?
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Speaker 1: What is what is like? Kind of growing up in Omaha?
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Speaker 4: Like, man, I've always I've always called it the melting pot.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 4: It's just it's just a mixture of so many different
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Speaker 4: people from so many different places, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: A bunch of people from California out there, a bunch
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Speaker 4: of people from uh, you know, the East Coast out there,
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Speaker 4: a bunch of it's like you know what I mean,
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Speaker 4: like you always end up seeing somebody that's from some
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Speaker 4: different area out there, and uh and I think that
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Speaker 4: that works in our favors as far as like, especially
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Speaker 4: like with the music scene, because we were just able
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Speaker 4: to get so many different influences, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: Like it wasn't just like it was like Midwest Midwest, yes,
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Speaker 4: yea yeah, but like I grew up listening to you know,
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Speaker 4: uh like my step Pops. He would have ice Cube
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Speaker 4: cassette tapes, then you have a Bone Thugs CD, then
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Speaker 4: would listening to E forty then some nas. It's like
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Speaker 4: it's you know what I mean. So it wasn't like
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Speaker 4: it was just one thing, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: So I was like, I feel like that played in
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Speaker 4: my favor, especially with a starting to get into hip
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Speaker 4: hop and stuff myself.
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Speaker 3: I just listened to everything.
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Speaker 1: Who was like the big artist out of Omaha? Like
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Speaker 1: was there anybody who kind of made it or was
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Speaker 1: like on the come up like that you like when
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Speaker 1: you were coming up?
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Speaker 4: Uh, not necessary, I would not necessarily there were there
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Speaker 4: were some people that just made noise locally, but there
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Speaker 4: was we didn't have any like breakout artists, you know
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Speaker 4: what I mean. That like just like really really really
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Speaker 4: took off from Mam Hall, right, So it was there
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Speaker 4: was definitely a challenge for sure.
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Speaker 1: How do you end up because you've been with Strange
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Speaker 1: for a minute, now what ended up? You know, having
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Speaker 1: you get on their radar, Travis Tech, all those guys
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Speaker 1: like what.
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Speaker 4: Was the Yeah, it was uh it was it was
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Speaker 4: my boy twisted insane. Yeah, shout out to my brother man.
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Speaker 4: We were we were on the road and making a
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Speaker 4: lot of noise, you know, on the internet realm, you
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Speaker 4: know what I mean. And we ended up on this
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Speaker 4: tour and Tech just popped out to one of the
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Speaker 4: Kansas City show that we had surprised the funk out
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Speaker 4: of me, and he was like, I've been hearing a
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Speaker 4: lot about you, people saying you the new Tech nine.
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Speaker 4: That's what he kept saying verbatim. He's like, you do
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Speaker 4: new Tech nine. I had to come see what's all about.
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Speaker 4: You got too much talent. And this is before I
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Speaker 4: go on stage. I'm like, oh, ship, like number one.
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Speaker 4: I don't expect Tech nine to be in this little
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Speaker 4: hole in the wall that we were doing this show
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Speaker 4: in and I'm talking about he got there like literally
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Speaker 4: like three minutes before I went on You like, I'm
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Speaker 4: here to see you.
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Speaker 3: I'm about to watch your whole show set.
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Speaker 1: I got show.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, I
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Speaker 3: can't fuck up nothing.
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Speaker 4: So uh, the whole time I'm doing my doing my show,
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Speaker 4: He's standing like off to the side of the stage
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Speaker 4: just like this, just watching.
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Speaker 3: The whole whole entire time. He just vibing.
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Speaker 4: And after that we exchanged information and then he invited
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Speaker 4: me out to his mansion to kick it and was like, yeah,
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Speaker 4: let's just start connecting.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: We spend a lot of time together just you know,
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Speaker 4: just functioning those mummy shit before it turned into him
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Speaker 4: saying like, I finally got a song for you, and
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Speaker 4: that song turned into uh a song that was on
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Speaker 4: a UFC three soundtrack, you know what I mean. I
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Speaker 4: was like, damn you getting me checks from you a
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Speaker 4: sports now? Okay, right, and then he offered me to
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Speaker 4: go on this tour with him. We went on this tour,
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Speaker 4: whooped ass on the tour and uh, I want to
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Speaker 4: say six seven months after that, him and Trav called me, Wow,
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Speaker 4: what you're trying to do?
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Speaker 1: That's were you like? Did you come up like listening
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Speaker 1: to tech obviously being in Fields by.
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Speaker 4: Man, Hell yeah, yeah, A lot of a lot of
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Speaker 4: Tech nine, a lot of Do or Die, Twister, Bone Thugs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy too because I feel like that's
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Speaker 1: a big look. But then like fast forward, when you
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Speaker 1: cut the record that ends up being the song the
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Speaker 1: rockets on. Yeah, did you know the rock like was
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Speaker 1: your verse recorded first or did you already know the
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Speaker 1: rock was on it when you decided to cut your verse?
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Speaker 3: Like what? Na?
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Speaker 4: So he had he told me he had this song
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Speaker 4: idea and he was like, I'm gonna call it face
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Speaker 4: off boom boom bam. And I'm just thinking like, oh,
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Speaker 4: this is just another Tech nine records, so we're just
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Speaker 4: gonna knock the song out. So once I send my
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Speaker 4: verse in, he called me.
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Speaker 3: He like, I got an idea.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 3: He was like, and I don't know if it's gonna work.
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, what you mean, Like I want to
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Speaker 4: I want the rock to I just want to have
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Speaker 4: the rock like talk some ship on the back end
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Speaker 4: of the song, just like talk on it. I don't
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Speaker 4: know if he'll do it, because he's doing I think
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Speaker 4: he was in the middle of Black Adam or something
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Speaker 4: like that around that time, and uh, he was like,
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Speaker 4: I'll see what he got going on and next thing,
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Speaker 4: you know, Like I was like, I was like, what's
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Speaker 4: that sa you know. I was like, I think you
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Speaker 4: could pull it off. I said, the Rock fuck with
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Speaker 4: you man. He was like, I don't know if he'll
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Speaker 4: do I said, he fuck with you, He'll do I
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Speaker 4: feel like he'll do it.
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Speaker 1: He always he's always posting it.
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Speaker 3: He loves you know what I'm Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So hit me back like probably like a week later
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Speaker 4: and was like he said, he said funk that I
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Speaker 4: want to rap on it. I was like, oh, ship,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So then that turned in
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Speaker 4: it like that like he like that was not the
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Speaker 4: original plan was to have the Rock rapping on the
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Speaker 4: tail end of the song.
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Speaker 3: So then they started connecting.
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Speaker 4: And then when we heard the verse, when it was
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Speaker 4: all said and done, I was like, Oh, this is
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Speaker 4: about to turn into something for sure. And then he
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Speaker 4: ended up making it a part of his rollout campaign
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Speaker 4: for his clothing line for Project Rock, and this was
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Speaker 4: I was like, this is about to be some ship.
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Speaker 3: So when we shot the video, I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, and there's the video, Like it's one thing
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Speaker 1: to get the Rock to do a song, to get
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Speaker 1: him to do a video.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think when they flew out to
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Speaker 4: where he was at, he was he had to step
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Speaker 4: off the movie and knocked that out in like twenty
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Speaker 4: thirty minutes, like they boom boom, And I think they
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Speaker 4: said the shirt that they bought for him was so
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Speaker 4: it wasn't big enough, so he had to like rip
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Speaker 4: it and that's what he ended up wearing.
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Speaker 1: Checked out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, this is
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Speaker 4: I was like, this is dope as fuck, man, And
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Speaker 4: the support that he that he offered the song is
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Speaker 4: what really took it over the top.
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Speaker 1: This is one thing to like do this through the record,
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Speaker 1: but it's like to get the biggest movie start of
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Speaker 1: the world to push something.
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Speaker 4: And posting it and tagging us and you know, go
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Speaker 4: live with us on YouTube.
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Speaker 3: He's a stand up dude.
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Speaker 4: Definitely, like like he hit me on the side note
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Speaker 4: after the fact and he was like, he was like, man,
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Speaker 4: I love your message and your music about mental health.
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Speaker 4: He was like, He's like I've been tapped in. He
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Speaker 4: was like, I've seen you got some kids. What's what
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Speaker 4: size clothes or they wear? And I'm thinking, like me
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Speaker 4: sending a couple of shirts some shit like that. Man,
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Speaker 4: When outside one day. It was like ten big ass
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Speaker 4: project rock boxes.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking abot.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't even open my door. I had to go
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Speaker 4: out the garage and get it. Shoes, old wardrobe he.
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Speaker 3: Sent my kids.
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Speaker 1: That's fire. That's a big shout out to the rock Yeah,
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Speaker 1: real shit, have you guys got to meet face to face?
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Speaker 3: Shit?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 3: Not yet?
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Speaker 1: Yeah one day. Hell yeah, you gotta get them on
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Speaker 3: Now that that would be dope.
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Speaker 1: back to the interview. Did you kind of initially get
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Speaker 1: into like taking music series.
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Speaker 4: I'd say probably like in the early two thousands. I got,
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Speaker 4: I got, I got a big bro name or Snake
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Speaker 4: Luchi is his artist name. He was doing some time
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Speaker 4: upstate and he he just called me. He would call
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Speaker 4: me and he was just like, I'm trying to do
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Speaker 4: this rap thing and he would spit versus and shiit
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Speaker 4: to me. I'm like, damn, this is this is actually dope.
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Speaker 4: So when he touched down, he had took me to
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Speaker 4: a studio with him, and I was like, I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: try this shit. I'm take a stab at. It's probably
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Speaker 4: like two thousand and one, two thousand and two something
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Speaker 4: like that. He's on your album yep, yep, shout out
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Speaker 4: Snake with you yep. And yeah, like he showed me
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Speaker 4: how to count bars and you know, show me that,
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Speaker 4: you know, the structure and measures and stuff like that
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Speaker 4: and metaphors and all of that. But you know, I was,
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Speaker 4: you know, I've always been an avid hip hop listener,
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Speaker 4: so I picked up pretty quick. Yeah, Like, that's how
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Speaker 4: I used to learn songs. There was no website to
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Speaker 4: go find lyrics. I used to write them down on
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Speaker 4: the sheet of paper. And I'm like, and that's how
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Speaker 4: I would learn songs. So I'm like already know that.
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Speaker 4: I'm already seeing the structure and the science behind it.
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Speaker 4: So then, yeah, we just started doing records like that.
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Speaker 4: And I put out my first ever album in seven
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Speaker 4: and ironically enough, on a couple of years before that
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Speaker 4: is when I did meet Tech.
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Speaker 3: It was like five, it's like fifteen or something like that.
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Speaker 1: It's a different Tech nine and oh fire, yeah, every
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Speaker 1: ready Tech, it's a wild guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't even I wasn't even supposed to be
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Speaker 3: in the show.
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Speaker 4: And I remember I went to the show and his
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Speaker 4: agent at the time that got me in the show,
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Speaker 4: and uh, they almost didn't let me in. I think
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Speaker 4: it was like a twenty one and up event, and
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Speaker 4: I remember watching them on stage. I was like, I
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Speaker 4: ain't never seen no shit like this before in my life.
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Speaker 4: I was like, I want, I want to do this.
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Speaker 4: This is the type of shit I want to do.
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Speaker 4: It was a party, man, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, this is still Tech on his
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Speaker 4: you know, his his upright for sure?
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: It was like a five hundred cap fire hundred cap
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Speaker 4: venue and it was just turned the fuck up, and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, went back there and I met him,
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Speaker 4: and we got a picture of that moment too, which
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Speaker 4: is crazy to think because like, what ten eleven years
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Speaker 4: after that, he's coming to my show and that's you know,
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Speaker 4: put me on his label.
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Speaker 1: That's big man. So at what point, because for people
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Speaker 1: who don't know, you have a tattoo on your face
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Speaker 1: that says sobriety as your superpower. Yes, So did you
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Speaker 1: have an addiction issue? And at what point in time?
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Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's one thing that's like the
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Speaker 1: hardest thing to kind of get wrangled.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Yeah, I battled a drug addiction and alcohol
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Speaker 4: addiction for a while. It's been better over the obviously
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Speaker 4: over the course of me getting my deal and moving
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Speaker 4: around and having to really really clean up my health
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Speaker 4: and stuff like that, I really started going to the
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Speaker 4: gym a lot, you know, just really just you know,
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Speaker 4: I was destroying myself, man.
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Speaker 1: You know what, what were you like, drugs a choice?
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Speaker 3: Man?
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Speaker 4: I was doing everything. Yeah, I was mixing the mastering
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Speaker 4: a lot. You know, I was like, you know, hella opioids,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But then it also it also didn't help that,
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Speaker 3: you know, being in psychiatric wards where like yes, and
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Speaker 3: that was.
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Speaker 4: I was a part of my release, like, if you
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Speaker 4: don't take this ship, then you're gonna come back and
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Speaker 4: come back. I was already yeah, I was already already
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Speaker 4: had access to a lot of the ship that they
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Speaker 4: were I was hearing people rap about sh I'm like, I.
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Speaker 2: Got a prescription.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I got this, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh, this is about to work in
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Speaker 4: my favorite you know what I'm saying. But over the
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Speaker 4: course of time, I'm like, I am destroying myself.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 4: And once I got a once I started moving around
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Speaker 4: with tech, I would say the tours were insane. We're
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Speaker 4: pretty fucking dope. But then when I got on the
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Speaker 4: road with tech man and I'm like.
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Speaker 3: Oh this is serious. You really have to be able
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Speaker 3: to manage your well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you you come in on the label, like when
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Speaker 1: things are cleaned up, there's the rule book.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tex text sober, Yeah, thank.
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Speaker 4: God, Yeah, who knows whatever, you know what I'm sayure,
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Speaker 4: But being out there on that road, man, I learned
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Speaker 4: really really quick. I'm like, man, if you don't have
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Speaker 4: self control and this ship.
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Speaker 1: Especially on the road, man, because you got fans, whill
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Speaker 1: bring you ship everything.
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Speaker 4: I didn't have to ask for nothing. It just falls
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Speaker 4: in my lap. You know what I'm saying. I'm like,
14:52
Speaker 4: anything I could ask for or even possibly wonder if
14:56
Speaker 4: I could get access to, somebody's gonna bring.
14:58
Speaker 2: It to me without you even asking. But you know what,
15:01
Speaker 2: that's what I'm.
15:02
Speaker 4: Saying, Like you just hey, I got this, I got
15:03
Speaker 4: to meet me out by the bus. They just shower
15:06
Speaker 4: you with gifts and you're like, oh shit, you know,
15:08
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, I see why a lot of
15:10
Speaker 4: people end up fucked up, you know, and they you
15:13
Speaker 4: know that that road gets hard to do, and you
15:15
Speaker 4: missing your family life at home, your kids and stuff
15:18
Speaker 4: like that, and uh, you know, you might be going
15:21
Speaker 4: you know, it's always some shit that happened back at
15:23
Speaker 4: the home front when you're on the road. And some
15:24
Speaker 4: people just self medicated. I was a self medicator, Like motherfucker.
15:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like you kind of probably feel helpless
15:30
Speaker 1: because you're on the road. You can't go like what's
15:32
Speaker 1: going on at home? And then I can really do
15:34
Speaker 1: about it.
15:34
Speaker 4: But I gotta I gotta you know, I'm out here
15:36
Speaker 4: chasing this dream. I gotta gotta take care of paying
15:39
Speaker 4: the bills. Yes, you feel me and uh so, you
15:41
Speaker 4: know you'll see some of the hommies arguing with baby
15:44
Speaker 4: mamas in the back of the bus or you know,
15:47
Speaker 4: you know, we all just have the moments, you know,
15:48
Speaker 4: and the next thing you know, you had to show
15:50
Speaker 4: and somebody's offering you drink.
15:52
Speaker 3: You like, fuck it.
15:52
Speaker 4: I might get drunk as fuck, right, get high as fuck.
15:55
Speaker 4: I might gonna do a little bit of this. I
15:56
Speaker 4: might pop this snort that, whatever the fucking case may be,
16:00
Speaker 4: in fifty sixty days of this ship, you know what
16:03
Speaker 4: I mean.
16:04
Speaker 2: And beat your body up even just drinking.
16:06
Speaker 1: Like man, I like, recently I realized how how cooked
16:12
Speaker 1: I am because I had a fucking like I went
16:14
Speaker 1: to a Clips concert in Arizona, shut Out Clips, and
16:17
Speaker 1: I had a talk can like a of a seltzer,
16:20
Speaker 1: a heart like a white claw.
16:22
Speaker 2: It's all I drank.
16:23
Speaker 1: I woke up the next day and I felt like
16:25
Speaker 1: I got I felt like I got fucked up the
16:28
Speaker 1: night before.
16:28
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, man, what the fuck is man?
16:32
Speaker 2: I've turned this corner of age where I really can't
16:35
Speaker 2: drink and not.
16:36
Speaker 1: Feel like absolute horseshit, and how it affect my entire
16:39
Speaker 1: next day yep.
16:41
Speaker 4: Back in the day, it was get back up. Just
16:43
Speaker 4: drink some like a couple of coffee. Yeah, drink some
16:46
Speaker 4: more to feel better. It's nothing. Eat some cold ass
16:48
Speaker 4: Popeye's chicken that was left out, and we on the
16:50
Speaker 4: road again.
16:51
Speaker 1: You know for sure now you've had you mentioned it
16:55
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. You know, you're very transparent with
16:58
Speaker 1: your music in terms of, like, you know, just the
17:01
Speaker 1: mental health advocacy and the things that you've been through. Yes, sir,
17:05
Speaker 1: you have been in, like you said, psychhored earlier, had
17:08
Speaker 1: suicide attempts. Take me through that journey of like your
17:12
Speaker 1: low points in life and what happened and how those
17:16
Speaker 1: obviously it's it's you know, to go from that to
17:19
Speaker 1: being a successful artist. You know, it's not an easy journey.
17:23
Speaker 1: So so what will take me to the loads of life?
17:25
Speaker 1: Like what was going on back then?
17:26
Speaker 3: Man?
17:27
Speaker 4: Like there was a lot of just uh, I'll say first,
17:31
Speaker 4: I didn't know what accountability was for sure, and I
17:35
Speaker 4: learned that, you know, going through a lot of shit.
17:38
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of wild ass trauma as a child,
17:40
Speaker 4: which obviously I feel like a lot of us do,
17:43
Speaker 4: and it gets normalized, which I feel like is bullshit.
17:46
Speaker 4: But going through a lot of the stuff that I
17:48
Speaker 4: went through, I started to destroy alloted to destroy myself,
17:53
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, all right, you're depressed
17:57
Speaker 4: and you don't want to acknowledge this, or you have
17:58
Speaker 4: an addiction and you don't want to knowledge that you have.
18:01
Speaker 4: You need to go to therapy, you need to talk
18:03
Speaker 4: to somebody, your your manic. You got all of these
18:06
Speaker 4: things going on, and you just feel like you can
18:09
Speaker 4: just take on take it on yourself, you know what
18:11
Speaker 4: I mean. And it ended up landing me in psychiatric wards,
18:15
Speaker 4: like back to back to back to back to back.
18:17
Speaker 4: It was I was I was a ping pong in
18:19
Speaker 4: between psychiatric wards and incarceration. So once I got to
18:23
Speaker 4: like like very very very rock bottom where it was
18:26
Speaker 4: like everything I got a I got petitioned and put
18:29
Speaker 4: under the border mental health to where it was like
18:31
Speaker 4: there is no you checking out of this situation until
18:34
Speaker 4: we feel like I knew it was real. I had
18:35
Speaker 4: to sit in front of like six there's like six
18:37
Speaker 4: judges or some shit like that, and I was like,
18:39
Speaker 4: I got a fucking public defender at the mental hospital.
18:41
Speaker 3: The fuck going on?
18:42
Speaker 2: But yeah, like all but jail.
18:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going in shackles and cuffs.
18:46
Speaker 4: And I'm telling them, I'm saying and I'm not a
18:49
Speaker 4: threat to myself for society, and they're like, yeah, it
18:52
Speaker 4: sounds good, but no, you know what I mean, like,
18:54
Speaker 4: you will remain here until we feel like you are
18:57
Speaker 4: fit to go back out in society, and when you
19:00
Speaker 4: do get released, you have to have these certain conditions.
19:03
Speaker 4: And I was like, damn, this is fucked up. I'm like,
19:06
Speaker 4: this ain't even like no legal shit, this is just
19:08
Speaker 4: like then motherfucker's saying I'm crazy and I can't. I
19:12
Speaker 4: can't do anything. I can't get outside or anything. So
19:15
Speaker 4: I just was like, all right, this is my fault.
19:17
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't.
19:18
Speaker 3: I was one of the motherfuckers. Man. I was like,
19:20
Speaker 3: motherfuckers did me like this?
19:21
Speaker 2: And of course you blame it everybody else but yourself.
19:25
Speaker 3: You know.
19:25
Speaker 4: And I understand because shit does happen to us. You know,
19:28
Speaker 4: they say life is nine or what ten percent of
19:32
Speaker 4: what happens to you a ninety percent how you react
19:34
Speaker 4: to it, yea.
19:35
Speaker 3: I wholeheartedly believe that.
19:36
Speaker 4: So like all of the shit that was happening to me,
19:38
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, man, like I'm this way because this
19:40
Speaker 4: shit happened to me. These motherfuckers did this to me.
19:43
Speaker 4: And but my response is my response is getting you
19:47
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
19:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have control of how you respond to that
19:50
Speaker 1: trauma or all that shit you that's what you can control.
19:53
Speaker 3: Yep. And I had to learn that because I'm like,
19:54
Speaker 3: you don't give a fuck. People got me fucked.
19:56
Speaker 4: Up, and it's like when you're sitting there, you know,
19:58
Speaker 4: on A twenty three and one and you fucked up,
20:00
Speaker 4: and it's like, who do you have? Nobody's picking up
20:03
Speaker 4: the phone. I don't have my freedom, you know, they
20:05
Speaker 4: forcing me to take pills. I got to deal with
20:07
Speaker 4: this case. After I get out of here for some
20:09
Speaker 4: bullshit then bounce back here. I'm like, I'm never going
20:12
Speaker 4: to get out of this cycle. So I was like,
20:13
Speaker 4: let me just do the self work. I really had
20:15
Speaker 4: to do the self work. Let me go to this
20:17
Speaker 4: group therapy shit, Let me talk to the psychiatrist. Let
20:19
Speaker 4: me really try to articulate and find out exactly what
20:24
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with in order to get my life back
20:25
Speaker 4: on track. And when I do get all of this
20:27
Speaker 4: shit dealt with, I plan on never coming back to
20:30
Speaker 4: this motherfucker again.
20:31
Speaker 1: I'm sayna say for you was the prison experience or
20:34
Speaker 1: the mental ward what what?
20:36
Speaker 3: Like?
20:36
Speaker 2: Those are different experiences?
20:38
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, it was.
20:39
Speaker 4: I didn't do any didn't do any time upstate I was.
20:42
Speaker 4: I was there for like holding and processing. I don't
20:46
Speaker 4: know why the fuck they did that, and they moved
20:47
Speaker 4: me back to County. I think it was because of
20:49
Speaker 4: like I had like a like a like a mild
20:51
Speaker 4: heart attack and they moved me.
20:52
Speaker 2: How long were you in County like a year? How
20:56
Speaker 2: would you like the jail ship.
20:59
Speaker 3: Compared to as a cakewalk.
21:01
Speaker 1: Do you think the jail ship was easier than yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
21:04
Speaker 1: because you probably are literally in there with crazy people, right, And.
21:12
Speaker 4: I understand it because there's some crazy motherfuckers in County too,
21:15
Speaker 4: you know, but they you know, they'll be moved to
21:18
Speaker 4: like you know, suicide watchers, you know. But like, yeah, man,
21:24
Speaker 4: it's it's tough because not only not only are you
21:27
Speaker 4: dealing with what you're dealing with, but it's like you
21:30
Speaker 4: don't really get any sleep in there. People are screaming
21:33
Speaker 4: their fucking lungs out, do you know what I mean?
21:35
Speaker 4: There's people in there attempting their own lives. It's like
21:38
Speaker 4: it's it's like it's really real. And I think what
21:41
Speaker 4: it did for me is I'm like, you know what,
21:43
Speaker 4: maybe I'm not as fucked up as I think I am.
21:45
Speaker 4: When I'm hearing these other people's stories and watching what
21:48
Speaker 4: they're going through, I'm like, let me, let me get
21:50
Speaker 4: myself together, you know, because it's like like I was,
21:52
Speaker 4: like the ship.
21:53
Speaker 3: In the movies.
21:53
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's really like that people are really I
21:57
Speaker 4: learned a lot about not only myself, but what other
21:59
Speaker 4: people are going through. So I give people that are
22:02
Speaker 4: consideration just in everyday life, right like, damn, okay, let me.
22:06
Speaker 3: I don't know what this person's going through. You just
22:08
Speaker 3: never know.
22:08
Speaker 2: You already know.
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Speaker 1: to the podcast. What were the circumstances that led you
23:12
Speaker 1: to like essentially not being able to leave like like
23:15
Speaker 1: and going into the like was it?
23:16
Speaker 3: Yeah?
23:17
Speaker 4: Uh, well, one of the situations I broke I broke
23:21
Speaker 4: out of one. I broke out of one, which was crazy.
23:24
Speaker 4: I didn't I don't know how the fuck I pulled
23:26
Speaker 4: it off. Broke out of one mental hospital and they
23:30
Speaker 4: had like this little recreation place.
23:32
Speaker 3: Where we'd go outside and they do their little thing.
23:34
Speaker 4: But they had this fence and I was I was like,
23:37
Speaker 4: I could I could make it over this fence. I
23:39
Speaker 4: was like I know. I was like, I know, I
23:40
Speaker 4: can make it over this fence. And one day we
23:43
Speaker 4: had lunch and where the dude would push the cart
23:48
Speaker 4: down the hallway. I was like, if I could just
23:51
Speaker 4: get down that hallway without nobody seeing me, you have
23:53
Speaker 4: to he pushes this cart, I follow wherever he goes.
23:55
Speaker 4: I can find an exit and get to this this
23:57
Speaker 4: open yard and I could jump this fence.
23:59
Speaker 3: And that'sactly how I did it. And they didn't catch me.
24:02
Speaker 4: So by the time they did catch up to me,
24:05
Speaker 4: I was in the stolen I was in the stolen whip.
24:07
Speaker 4: They didn't catch me in the car, but they ended
24:08
Speaker 4: up finding the car with my belongings in it. This, yeah,
24:11
Speaker 4: this is how you stole the car. Or yeah, you
24:14
Speaker 4: get out and you just yeah, yep, stole me a car.
24:17
Speaker 3: I was. I was living out the car for a
24:19
Speaker 3: little bit. I was, I was all over the place.
24:21
Speaker 4: And this is how this is like where the petition
24:23
Speaker 4: really really came in because when I read my petition,
24:26
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, everybody think I'm crazy.
24:28
Speaker 3: You know. They let you read it like.
24:29
Speaker 4: He's a he's a danger to himself, he's a danger
24:32
Speaker 4: to others.
24:32
Speaker 3: He needs help.
24:33
Speaker 2: Did you hot wire the car? Did you like take it?
24:35
Speaker 3: No, they just took it.
24:39
Speaker 1: Like g t A took it.
24:41
Speaker 3: No no o the car. No no no no no
24:44
Speaker 3: no no no no no no no.
24:45
Speaker 4: They just they were slipping, you know what I mean,
24:47
Speaker 4: you know, like keys, you know, like all right, like
24:51
Speaker 4: starved me on the platter, like, oh yeah, I'm taking that.
24:53
Speaker 4: But once I ended up there, uh once, once the
25:00
Speaker 4: ended up catching up with me and they were like, Okay,
25:04
Speaker 4: we're gonna put you in a way more secure place, right,
25:08
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, way more locked down place.
25:11
Speaker 4: Then I had the petition and then I had to
25:13
Speaker 4: go to court in there for that, and then once
25:15
Speaker 4: I finally got done with all of that, and I
25:17
Speaker 4: was like I did all of the work.
25:18
Speaker 3: I'm cool.
25:18
Speaker 4: I'm ready to transition back into society. I wasn't even
25:20
Speaker 4: thinking about the stolen car. So I'm walking out like
25:24
Speaker 4: with my shit, and they're like by the way, yeah,
25:27
Speaker 4: by the way, two sheriffs waiting out there, and they're like,
25:29
Speaker 4: let's go so then for.
25:31
Speaker 1: The car yep, Jesus, at what point in time is
25:35
Speaker 1: this in the middle of you trying to make it
25:37
Speaker 1: as an artist or yeah?
25:39
Speaker 3: Oh fuck yeah.
25:40
Speaker 4: So you know, but you know, at the end of
25:42
Speaker 4: the day, it's like, you know, I had to I
25:44
Speaker 4: had to realize the role I played in my own suffering.
25:47
Speaker 4: I was doing a whole bunch of shit that I
25:48
Speaker 4: shouldn't have been doing and just angry at the world.
25:52
Speaker 1: What was the tipping point for you where you realize, like,
25:55
Speaker 1: all right, this was it? That time you said that
25:57
Speaker 1: like you they wouldn't let you out, Like what was it?
26:00
Speaker 3: That was definitely the tipping point.
26:02
Speaker 4: But I would definitely I would definitely say that was
26:05
Speaker 4: really like I was like, Okay, when I get out
26:06
Speaker 4: of this ship and everything is done with, I'm never
26:08
Speaker 4: fucking looking back. But as soon as I got out,
26:12
Speaker 4: I decided to get this this this lady pregnant man
26:14
Speaker 4: like you from you know, I ain't gonna push you
26:17
Speaker 4: in a while, you know, you know, I'm jumped head
26:20
Speaker 4: first and I'm like, damn, I done created a.
26:22
Speaker 1: Whole a whole human Yeah yeah, So I'm like, and
26:25
Speaker 1: now you're responsible for that.
26:26
Speaker 4: I'm like Okay, I really can't be on no bullshit now,
26:30
Speaker 4: and I think, no, I don't think, I know that's
26:32
Speaker 4: exactly what changed it. Becoming a father is what really
26:35
Speaker 4: really saved me.
26:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, you know, Jelly Roylways says that,
26:38
Speaker 1: like that's when he kind of he was locked up
26:40
Speaker 1: while his baby was you.
26:42
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, Jelly roll, Sure that's real. Ship.
26:46
Speaker 1: So this new album, man, you got forties the record
26:49
Speaker 1: Forties Going Crazy talk about Ghetto Psycho.
26:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, it was inspired by it was it
26:58
Speaker 4: was a playoff for the movie American Psycle obviously, like
27:00
Speaker 4: even like with the imagery and.
27:02
Speaker 3: Shit like that, but classic.
27:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I really wanted to do was I really
27:06
Speaker 4: wanted to create a body of work that touched on
27:09
Speaker 4: what makes you know, quote unquote ghetto psychos, you know
27:12
Speaker 4: what I mean. And there's different variations of what you
27:16
Speaker 4: can call a ghetto, you know, in my particular instance,
27:21
Speaker 4: there would definitely be the hood, you know what I mean.
27:24
Speaker 4: And we go through a lot of these things that
27:26
Speaker 4: go unaddressed, undealt with, and normalized. And I feel like
27:30
Speaker 4: a lot of us have a lot of crazy shit
27:32
Speaker 4: that we just haven't dealt with and That's how the
27:36
Speaker 4: idea of Ghetto Psycho was born. So I really wanted
27:38
Speaker 4: to just create a body of work that.
27:40
Speaker 1: Explained that you you have don Trip and star Leader
27:43
Speaker 1: on the album. They got one of my favorite Steps.
27:46
Speaker 1: They were one of my favorite albums of the year.
27:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, Step Brothers.
27:49
Speaker 1: Dues are going crazy right now, my guys. We'll talk
27:53
Speaker 1: about working with those guys. Was that like a single
27:55
Speaker 1: session or was that like a separate thing.
27:56
Speaker 3: No. I was like, it was a separate thing, man.
27:58
Speaker 2: And obviously they live in different cities, you know.
28:00
Speaker 4: I just I've been a big fan of both of
28:02
Speaker 4: them for a while and everybody had been telling me, like, man,
28:06
Speaker 4: you need to get some ship with them, and I'm like, man,
28:08
Speaker 4: I really want to.
28:08
Speaker 3: I really want to do it, man.
28:10
Speaker 4: And I felt like they're very, very very very introspective
28:14
Speaker 4: with their lyrics, right, and I'm like, these these two
28:17
Speaker 4: are perfect for this, for this particular project. So, uh,
28:21
Speaker 4: Logan Garrett is a is a cat that that manages
28:25
Speaker 4: both of them. And we started chopping up and I
28:29
Speaker 4: was like, hey, you know, I want to get them
28:30
Speaker 4: to on the record, and they blessed the record and
28:33
Speaker 4: they did it, you know, and man, they whooped ass
28:38
Speaker 4: for sure.
28:39
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, so I appreciate
28:41
Speaker 3: them both.
28:41
Speaker 4: And Nay ended up coming to the city and doing
28:43
Speaker 4: the show not that long ago, so we actually got
28:45
Speaker 4: to like formerly meet.
28:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, solid too, super solid. Talk to me
28:50
Speaker 1: because I feel like Travis has done a little bit
28:52
Speaker 1: more interviews recently. He kind of always was like I
28:56
Speaker 1: feel like when I first got hipped to Strange, you
28:58
Speaker 1: would always kind of see Travis standing on tech like
29:01
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought he was like security.
29:03
Speaker 2: And he kind of was to be fair back in
29:05
Speaker 2: the day.
29:05
Speaker 1: But you know, fast forward, I feel like, you know,
29:08
Speaker 1: Travis's business acumen is like a lot more recognized and
29:14
Speaker 1: you know, kind of being the guy behind the guy,
29:17
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, you have the song that
29:20
Speaker 1: you dropped called Travis Ogwynn. What is something about Travis
29:24
Speaker 1: that you feel like is misunderstood or something like how
29:27
Speaker 1: is Travis's Because I feel like he's obviously a great
29:30
Speaker 1: example for a lot. I mean, he's a businessman, dude,
29:32
Speaker 1: a hustler, visionary. How key and integral has he been
29:37
Speaker 1: for you? And just like give us something about Travis
29:39
Speaker 1: and maybe people don't understand or.
29:41
Speaker 4: Travis is a Travis is very very interesting man, and
29:47
Speaker 4: there was something about him that I just was like,
29:50
Speaker 4: a super a super respect the fact that you move
29:53
Speaker 4: like this, but I was like, I wish that you
29:57
Speaker 4: would set the record straight on a lot of shit.
30:00
Speaker 4: That's what I would tell him. He was like, man,
30:02
Speaker 4: his philosophy was. He was like, there's a lot of
30:05
Speaker 4: shit out there people are saying about me.
30:06
Speaker 3: He was like, if they know the truth, I know
30:08
Speaker 3: the truth. I don't. I don't need to say anything.
30:10
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck. I used to.
30:11
Speaker 4: I used to get on there and be back and
30:13
Speaker 4: forth in the comments. She was like, I don't give
30:15
Speaker 4: a fuck. Man, I don't care because I know. But
30:17
Speaker 4: I'm like I was like Trav, I said, man, if
30:19
Speaker 4: you just if you would just pop out one time
30:22
Speaker 4: and just set the record straight on So but I
30:24
Speaker 4: thought it was I thought it was pretty g I
30:25
Speaker 4: was like me, I'm like, I'm not gonna let you
30:28
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I've always been that type of person,
30:30
Speaker 4: like somebody just you know, somebody's be in some type
30:32
Speaker 4: of way and I need to address something, then I'm
30:34
Speaker 4: just gonna address it. I'm not gonna let you run
30:36
Speaker 4: with that fucking narrative and you know what I mean,
30:38
Speaker 4: and really and.
30:40
Speaker 3: Live like, you know what I mean, pushing that shit.
30:42
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, fuck that trap.
30:44
Speaker 4: Like if they said this, because I would always ask
30:45
Speaker 4: him like hey I heard this, like what's up with this?
30:47
Speaker 4: He'd be like, nah, this is what happened and they
30:49
Speaker 4: know this and you know, and he got and he
30:51
Speaker 4: got receipts. So I'm like, trave like people people looking
30:55
Speaker 4: at you like you the bad guy a lot.
30:57
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
30:57
Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is is what birth the idea
31:01
Speaker 4: of the song I did? I was like I started
31:03
Speaker 4: going through the same type of shit where I was like,
31:05
Speaker 4: you know what, I can't address everything, you know what
31:07
Speaker 4: I mean. If that's the case, we'll be fighting the
31:09
Speaker 4: whole fucking world.
31:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have so much energy.
31:12
Speaker 3: Yep.
31:13
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes you know, like you catch yourself
31:15
Speaker 1: applying to comments and shit, You're like, what do you do?
31:17
Speaker 3: I had to stop that shit. Yeah, I had to
31:19
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31:19
Speaker 4: Like I used to really be on that, you know
31:21
Speaker 4: what I mean, And I was like, oh, this is
31:23
Speaker 4: what he was talking about, you know what. He's just like, man, fuck,
31:25
Speaker 4: what the fuck what they talking about. Just for peace
31:28
Speaker 4: of mind, let me just just keep moving and just
31:30
Speaker 4: focus on the positivity. I don't know why our brains
31:32
Speaker 4: are wired like that. We see that one comment with
31:34
Speaker 4: zero in on the motherfucker real quick, but there's something
31:39
Speaker 4: I do respect about him, you know what I mean.
31:41
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's a lot of shit that motherfuckers are
31:42
Speaker 4: saying that they probably have no idea what they're talking
31:45
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33:31
Speaker 1: what was that? Like, what did you just like when
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Speaker 1: that became an official thing? Did you just see like
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Speaker 1: the flip switch and like you just like you you're
33:39
Speaker 1: like opened up to this world of loyal motherfuckers who
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Speaker 1: will buy the shirt come out.
33:44
Speaker 3: Yeah. The dope.
33:45
Speaker 4: The dope thing about it is is that when I
33:47
Speaker 4: was running around with Twisted Insane, Twisted Insane was already
33:49
Speaker 4: getting that type of embrace.
33:51
Speaker 2: Because he was on Worldwide Choppers, right, yes.
33:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, he was already getting that type of embrace
33:55
Speaker 4: from his fan base, which is the brain YACs.
33:57
Speaker 3: You know. So when we would do shows, there was
34:00
Speaker 3: hell of.
34:00
Speaker 4: Technicians and brainiacs in the crowd, and everybody thought that.
34:04
Speaker 4: And Sam was getting ready to go to Strange. You
34:06
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, They just they just they really
34:07
Speaker 4: wanted that. So I was like, this is dope, man,
34:10
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like these motherfuckers buying CDs
34:12
Speaker 4: and shirts and they're like they're really really diehard supporters.
34:16
Speaker 4: But getting on that Tech nine stage was different because
34:20
Speaker 4: it's like we're not doing two three hundred motherfuckers, you
34:24
Speaker 4: know what I mean, at the most anymore. Like the
34:28
Speaker 4: first I think the first couple of shows I did
34:30
Speaker 4: with Tech on that tour, the Planet Tour, we went
34:32
Speaker 4: on like five thousand motherfuckers in the crowd, and I
34:35
Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, So there's so many people that
34:37
Speaker 4: don't know who I am, you know what I mean.
34:40
Speaker 4: Some people are just they're they're specifically for Tech. Don't
34:43
Speaker 4: even fuck about the openers, right, So and essentially it's
34:46
Speaker 4: like you got to really get up there and do
34:48
Speaker 4: that shit and convert them to be like, oh, this
34:50
Speaker 4: motherfucker's dope. Tech can't just say so, you know what
34:53
Speaker 4: I mean. I feel like that, like Tech can say so,
34:55
Speaker 4: but it's like when it comes when it comes to
34:57
Speaker 4: them shows, Tech is.
35:00
Speaker 1: He's just like he's like I personally thinking hip hop,
35:03
Speaker 1: He's the best.
35:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like there's nobody doing that ship like him.
35:07
Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, you want to you want
35:10
Speaker 4: to come over here and get and get what I'm
35:11
Speaker 4: getting down with, you better bring it, you know, no
35:15
Speaker 4: rapping over your vocals and ship like that.
35:17
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying.
35:17
Speaker 1: I think it was super cemented to me too the
35:20
Speaker 1: first tour that he went out without Chris and he
35:25
Speaker 1: came out as like the clown, the gangster.
35:26
Speaker 3: I remember that and the screens.
35:29
Speaker 1: To me, that was the most impressive tech tour because
35:32
Speaker 1: I was like, this might be the best tech show
35:34
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And he's like because you know, there
35:36
Speaker 1: was something about seeing like him cut out Whoun and
35:39
Speaker 1: Chris Calico the Unholy Trinity and they're dancing and all
35:42
Speaker 1: that ship where you would be like, oh, this ship
35:44
Speaker 1: is crazy, like nobody's doing this ship. Yeah, But then
35:47
Speaker 1: to see him just do it alone and still like
35:50
Speaker 1: carry the show. I'm like, this ship is crazy.
35:52
Speaker 4: Yeah man, yeah, so yeah getting out there doing that
35:55
Speaker 4: and then the ISO chance man like like when you
36:00
Speaker 4: got six to ten thousand people chatting I saw back
36:03
Speaker 4: to back, I'm like, I appreciate every last one of
36:07
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers that have ever did that because what it
36:09
Speaker 4: did was it show tech and it show trapped. They're like, yo,
36:12
Speaker 4: like we might have something here, you know what I mean?
36:15
Speaker 4: And I felt like that was their way of saying
36:17
Speaker 4: like we see you, we accept you, you know what
36:20
Speaker 4: I mean?
36:21
Speaker 1: What about uh how because obviously you end up on
36:23
Speaker 1: you produced Red Kingdom, which is uh, I mean now
36:27
Speaker 1: like kind of the unofficial official fucking Chiefs anthem.
36:30
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
36:31
Speaker 1: That's got to be pretty crazy. Yeah, man, yeah, I
36:34
Speaker 1: mean they are in the super Bowl every year. It
36:35
Speaker 1: feels like that was a dope thing and crazy. Crazily enough,
36:39
Speaker 1: that was my first ever NFL game I ever went to,
36:41
Speaker 1: was the super Bowl.
36:42
Speaker 3: Because of that. Shit, that's your first game, first game
36:45
Speaker 3: I ever went to. It was the super Bowl.
36:47
Speaker 2: Put you went to a lot of college games, I'm assuming.
36:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but to go to that, you know what
36:52
Speaker 4: I mean? Like because of Red and Red Kingdom. It
36:55
Speaker 4: was just something on the fly. Tech called me and
36:57
Speaker 4: was like he's like, man, I need a beat man.
36:59
Speaker 4: It was like, I don't got nothing. It was like
37:01
Speaker 4: I need to beat I'm trying to do something for
37:02
Speaker 4: the chief He just made it sound so nonchalant, like
37:05
Speaker 4: I just do a quick little thing for the Chiefs.
37:07
Speaker 4: And I was like, give me like fifteen minutes, let
37:09
Speaker 4: me go through my I was like I think I
37:12
Speaker 4: got one. That that fixed.
37:13
Speaker 3: That sent it to him and I became Red Kingdom.
37:16
Speaker 4: Jesus all the ship with uh Trump posting this ship
37:21
Speaker 4: and the White House. You know what I'm saying, Uh,
37:24
Speaker 4: playing this shit on the CNN was playing the ship
37:27
Speaker 4: doing his impeachment or whatever the fuck. I was like,
37:30
Speaker 4: everything that's happening with this song is like just making
37:33
Speaker 4: his motherfucker goe. Yeah, I'm like, shit, going to your
37:36
Speaker 4: public facts, I'm like, shit, I don't give a fuck
37:39
Speaker 4: play that ship, you know what I mean? But it
37:41
Speaker 4: just it just turned into something that I had no.
37:44
Speaker 4: I had no idea that it was gonna I think, uh,
37:47
Speaker 4: I think Uh. Caitlin, who works at the label, she
37:50
Speaker 4: told me I think it went platinum.
37:52
Speaker 2: I think so.
37:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
37:53
Speaker 1: I think it's up there for sure. I think is
37:55
Speaker 1: it bigger than Face Off?
37:57
Speaker 4: I think they're like this, Yeah, so I'll be the first.
38:00
Speaker 4: I'll be the first person at Strange Music that ever
38:02
Speaker 4: had a production that went platinum.
38:04
Speaker 2: Man, I mean probably yeah. And you already got two golds.
38:08
Speaker 1: That's crazy that it's crazy.
38:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you put the plaques at the house facts?
38:13
Speaker 3: I need to find out. I'm gonna make knock some
38:15
Speaker 3: ship off the wall.
38:16
Speaker 2: Makes me room.
38:16
Speaker 1: You know, it's a big deal, man.
38:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a beautiful.
38:19
Speaker 2: Thing for you.
38:20
Speaker 1: Is there because you obviously have worked with a lot
38:22
Speaker 1: of dope artists. Is there who's kind of like your
38:25
Speaker 1: bucket list feature that you still want to want to
38:27
Speaker 1: work with it? It's kind of like obviously everyone's gonna
38:29
Speaker 1: say jay Z, you know whoever, but like, you know,
38:33
Speaker 1: a realistic feature that you would like to make happen.
38:36
Speaker 4: There's a few, man, there's a few. I'm a big
38:39
Speaker 4: I'm a big little Wayne Man.
38:41
Speaker 2: Wheezy be crazy.
38:42
Speaker 1: I would love the Yoda songs going nuts. She's got
38:44
Speaker 1: a relationship with Strange already.
38:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really want to do something with
38:50
Speaker 4: Wayne Eminem for sure. You know that's definitely up there.
38:56
Speaker 4: Shout out five nine is crazy. He's like, yeah, yeah,
39:01
Speaker 4: there's there's there's a few. There's a few that I
39:03
Speaker 4: really really want to work with, you know what I mean,
39:06
Speaker 4: just from that golden era even like and this is
39:09
Speaker 4: something that probably is a curve ball for a lot
39:11
Speaker 4: of people, But.
39:12
Speaker 3: I really fun with your mortal technique.
39:13
Speaker 1: I love mortal tech like that like mals dance, I mean,
39:17
Speaker 1: mortal technique. I learned so much about you know, the
39:22
Speaker 1: fucking CIA and come on all kind of crazy.
39:24
Speaker 4: Come on emtial technique. He I was like, I was
39:30
Speaker 4: listening to that ship and uh in high.
39:32
Speaker 1: School and I'm like, oh yeah, ye, Mortal Tech look
39:35
Speaker 1: the same same here in high school. And I remember
39:37
Speaker 1: seeing that motherfucker live and it was like, this is
39:39
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Yeah, Mortal Tech. I got to interview him recently,
39:42
Speaker 1: and like a couple of years ago, he's solid as
39:45
Speaker 1: fuck too.
39:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's got He's an intense guy man.
39:49
Speaker 4: Very very very smart guy man, very very knowledgeable, and
39:53
Speaker 4: just just just overall dope individual.
39:55
Speaker 1: For anybody who's watching this who has kind of grown
39:59
Speaker 1: up with trauma and can't seem to get themselves out
40:02
Speaker 1: of that rut that you were in, what was what
40:05
Speaker 1: is advice you could give somebody?
40:07
Speaker 3: Man, I feel like it gets greater later.
40:11
Speaker 4: I feel like everything that happens to you is definitely
40:14
Speaker 4: temporary if you take your time and work through it.
40:17
Speaker 4: I feel like none of us are ever going to
40:19
Speaker 4: have what is considered the perfect life. We all have
40:22
Speaker 4: had our own battles, and we all still have our
40:25
Speaker 4: battles no.
40:25
Speaker 3: Matter how good life gets or wherever we're at.
40:28
Speaker 4: Just take it day by day and you just continuing
40:31
Speaker 4: to keep going is a motivation for a lot of
40:34
Speaker 4: people that don't, that don't have the strength to get
40:36
Speaker 4: out of bed today. You know what I mean, Like,
40:39
Speaker 4: we go on the road and we do these meet
40:40
Speaker 4: and greets, and people tell me I saved their lives
40:42
Speaker 4: just from speaking out my personal experiences and beliefs.
40:46
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
40:47
Speaker 4: To motivate somebody just from working through whatever struggle you're doing,
40:51
Speaker 4: it can it can move mountains.
40:53
Speaker 1: I think like you, I think you said earlier, like
40:54
Speaker 1: accountabilities like the number one thing.
40:56
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yep, I had to say. You know, you
40:59
Speaker 4: know our real role. I play my own suffering. Let
41:02
Speaker 4: me get myself together, let me do the self work,
41:04
Speaker 4: let me realize where I went wrong and how I
41:06
Speaker 4: could respond to this or separate myself from these particular energies,
41:10
Speaker 4: And life started to work in my favor after that,
41:13
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, I feel like life
41:15
Speaker 4: is definitely cycle based. Obviously, the world spins and spins,
41:19
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm like, I can
41:21
Speaker 4: recognize when certain things are happening in certain type of situations,
41:25
Speaker 4: even just mentally.
41:25
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. For sure, I'm like, you
41:28
Speaker 3: know it'll get greater.
41:29
Speaker 4: Letter, just just take your time and work through it,
41:31
Speaker 4: to allow yourself to feel what you need to feel,
41:34
Speaker 4: work yourself through those emotions and keep going.
41:36
Speaker 1: Overall you obviously spending so much time with Travis as
41:40
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial shit rubbed off on you at all.
41:42
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I picked Traves' brain all the time, and
41:46
Speaker 4: wildly enough, Trave would always be like, man, I try
41:48
Speaker 4: to tell you know, certain people about they just don't
41:50
Speaker 4: want to hear it.
41:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, show me, yeah, please show me the way.
41:54
Speaker 3: How the fuck did you do this?
41:55
Speaker 4: And I will sit there and I will take notes
41:57
Speaker 4: and I'll be like, what book do I need to read?
41:59
Speaker 1: Or what do you?
42:00
Speaker 3: And I you know what I mean.
42:01
Speaker 4: I've always been a sponge, right, And I feel like
42:03
Speaker 4: that's the dope. That's the dope thing about being in
42:04
Speaker 4: the Midwest. Tools we get everything. Everything just gets dumped
42:08
Speaker 4: in the middle. And I'm like, Okay, I learned this.
42:10
Speaker 4: I learned how to make beats like this listening to
42:12
Speaker 4: Dre growing up. Okay, I know how to make some
42:14
Speaker 4: Timberland type shit. I know how to make this type
42:15
Speaker 4: of shit, and uh, you know it just it just works.
42:19
Speaker 4: It just always works in your favor to be studious.
42:21
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42:32
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42:34
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42:35
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42:37
Speaker 1: Uh, he does not disappoint Yeah. You know there's like
42:39
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42:41
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42:45
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42:48
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