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The Late Debate | 12 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the late Plase.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson, with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight. A school teacher receives compensation after being sacked
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  Speaker 3: for having an untidy desk. I live in Liza, both
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  Speaker 3: quickly shuffling their papers on to make sure they'll retain
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  Speaker 3: their jobs at Sky News.
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  Speaker 1: How have I not been sacked already?
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  Speaker 4: When I worked at the TiSER, they used to have
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  Speaker 4: to come along and literally take piles of paper off
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  Speaker 4: my debts because quote unquote in a newspaper newsroom it
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  Speaker 4: was a fire hazard.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll get to that and other stories like it
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  Speaker 3: a little later. Plus, when we look at what's making
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  Speaker 3: news tomorrow, a report on how many Australians are traveling
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  Speaker 3: overseas to select the gender of their baby, something that's
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  Speaker 3: illegal here in Australia. And on the front page of
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow's Australian newspaper all the information about the Liberal leadership vote.
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  Speaker 2: All of that coming up shortly.
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  Speaker 3: But first, if you thought net zero was an absolutely
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  Speaker 3: crazy idea, we'll wait until you hear what Twiggy Forest's
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  Speaker 3: latest green fantasy is the Australian billionaire reckons net zero
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  Speaker 3: is for WIMPs. He wants what he's calling real zero,
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  Speaker 3: which calls for a complete ban on all fossil fuels
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  Speaker 3: from twenty forty. He told the Sidney Morning Herald today,
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  Speaker 3: I believe net zero is an effing con Real zero
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  Speaker 3: is serious. Just stop burning fossil fuels. You'll get rid
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  Speaker 3: of climate change because so much swings off that, and
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  Speaker 3: you'll lower your cost of living and increase your standard
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  Speaker 3: of living. And by the way, every politician knows that's
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  Speaker 3: what they're there for. This is the kind of statement
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  Speaker 3: that would make even Adam Bant blush. Fossil fuels gone
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  Speaker 3: completely within just fifteen years, running the whole world of
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  Speaker 3: breezy days and sunbeams. The problem, of course, Liz and Caleb,
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  Speaker 3: is that to make wind turbines and solar panels you
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  Speaker 3: actually need fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 2: This is not zero, real zero. This is just real stupid.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe it. He's cracked the code.
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  Speaker 4: You know, eight billion people on the face of the planet,
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  Speaker 4: and the only person who's thought, yes, the answer here
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  Speaker 4: is to just turn off.
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  Speaker 1: All the fossil fuels is tweety forest.
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  Speaker 4: He's worked it out, well done, twigging. There may well
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  Speaker 4: be a reason that you're the only bloke who's running
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  Speaker 4: around talking about real zero.
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  Speaker 1: Because it would do the exact opposite of what you say.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he says it would have a decreased cost
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  Speaker 1: of living. I mean, where on Earth does he get
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  Speaker 1: that from?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, what will turn off all the coal and will
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  Speaker 4: turn off all the gas, and then the lights won't
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  Speaker 4: be able to Actually, he's right, Sorry, I've worked out
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  Speaker 4: he is right. There will be a lower cost of
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  Speaker 4: living because you won't be able to turn the lights
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  Speaker 4: on because there won't be enough power, and so your
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  Speaker 4: power bills will go down dramatically. That's the only way
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  Speaker 4: I can possibly see. And your gas bill, of course,
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  Speaker 4: because that'll be outlawed too. It's the only way I
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  Speaker 4: can possibly see that he could argue that this would
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  Speaker 4: result in a reduced cost of living, and the idea
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  Speaker 4: that it would just, you know, magically save the planet overnight.
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  Speaker 4: You know everyone's going to buy an electric car. How
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  Speaker 4: does that go for your cost of living? Et cetera,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. It's all good and well when you're one
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  Speaker 4: of the richest blokes in Australia to run around saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: just turn off the fossil fuels and that'll fix the world.
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  Speaker 4: You can well afford it, but the rest of us can't.
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  Speaker 4: That's always been the problem with net zero, let alone
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  Speaker 4: real zero, which he says, but he reckons this is
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  Speaker 4: great for business.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he says, everyone else is pulling out.
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  Speaker 4: Of these renewable projects in green hydrogen, which he has
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  Speaker 4: also pulled out of, by the way, he was all
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  Speaker 4: about it, but.
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  Speaker 1: He says this is great.
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  Speaker 4: No one else is doing it, so I'm just hoovering
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  Speaker 4: up all the business and making lots of money. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you're making money, good for you. But you can't
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  Speaker 4: tell me that the rest of us are going to
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  Speaker 4: be better off with real zero.
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  Speaker 5: And how does he figure that that could be remotely
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  Speaker 5: possible by twenty forty when we're failing every single twenty
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  Speaker 5: thirty times. Anyone set here in Australia with all the experts,
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  Speaker 5: especially the energy companies, up in arms saying, look, we're
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  Speaker 5: just not going to get there. Okay, it's not feasible.
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  Speaker 5: Can someone remind this guy. I appreciate the passion. I
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  Speaker 5: appreciate that he had a near death experience in twenty
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  Speaker 5: sixteen which he had his Road to Damascus experience and
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  Speaker 5: emerged from that this green zealot. But can someone remind
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  Speaker 5: him Australia is responsible for one point three percent of
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  Speaker 5: global emissions, so it really doesn't matter what we do,
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  Speaker 5: even if we do go back to living in caves,
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  Speaker 5: and for as long as Trump is in office, which
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  Speaker 5: is going to be a while yet. And America, one
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  Speaker 5: of the top three emitters in the world, isn't participating
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  Speaker 5: in the Paris Accords. We also know China and India,
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  Speaker 5: the top two biggest emitters, could not give a flying
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  Speaker 5: rip about emissions. All of this is porky pies. All
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  Speaker 5: of this is absolute nonsense. Like I say, appreciate the
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  Speaker 5: guy's passion, and maybe if I owned a company that
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  Speaker 5: was worth fifty billion dollars, I too could have the
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  Speaker 5: time and passion to pour into a pet project. But
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  Speaker 5: when you're talking about the guy that has his fingers
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  Speaker 5: in this many Australian pies and the real world consequences
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  Speaker 5: of what he's talking about, it's just laughable.
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  Speaker 4: And this business about just turn off the fossil fuels,
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  Speaker 4: don't use them at all, and there's an idea built
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  Speaker 4: into that that most people want to turn off the
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  Speaker 4: fossil fuels, that they'd be quite happy to do away
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  Speaker 4: with it. But we see time and again that that's
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  Speaker 4: simply not the case. I mean, you look at electric
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  Speaker 4: vehicles for instance, which of course the Labor Party told
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  Speaker 4: us before they won the election in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to make up eighty nine percent of all
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  Speaker 4: vehicle new vehicle sales by twenty thirty. The federal transport
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  Speaker 4: departments now revise them back to twenty seven percent, which
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  Speaker 4: is a hell of a discrepancy. But at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the federal government took off the subsidy that they
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  Speaker 4: were applying to plug in hybrid vehicles, and that had
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  Speaker 4: actually been one of the fastest growing markets of electric vehicles,
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  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the sales of plug in
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  Speaker 4: hybrids had last month in April because the subsidy doesn't
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  Speaker 4: exist anymore. So people, when they're given the choice without
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  Speaker 4: any government interference, will continue to buy the product that
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  Speaker 4: uses fossil fuels. There's no great desire amongst people to
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  Speaker 4: walk away from fossil fuels. They'll only do it if
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  Speaker 4: the government gives them a dirty wad of cash in
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  Speaker 4: their hand in order to do so.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I'll tell you who won't walk away from fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned them. This is the Chinese.
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  Speaker 3: So can you imagine within fifteen years no fossil fuels
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  Speaker 3: used in Australia. But the Chinese, meanwhile, are going from
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  Speaker 3: strength to strength. Talk about a way to not only
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  Speaker 3: bankrupt your country, but to make it completely defenseless. But
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  Speaker 3: Tweini going from net zero to real zero. You mentioned
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  Speaker 3: a green hydrogen. He believed that would be a super
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  Speaker 3: fuel of the future, but he's failed with that. This
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  Speaker 3: is typical of those who espouse the green dream. The
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  Speaker 3: more it fails, the harder they double down. You know
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  Speaker 3: that the Albanezy government's answer to the increasing cost of
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  Speaker 3: electricity is more renewables. So the worse it gets, the
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  Speaker 3: more they double down on their mistakes. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 3: Twiggy is doing. But I guess he can afford to
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  Speaker 3: so good?
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  Speaker 6: Well can he afford to?
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  Speaker 5: Because we know that Trump is looking to ban those
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  Speaker 5: green energy tax credits that Biden came up with.
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  Speaker 6: He says that's boguus.
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  Speaker 5: It just allows companies to keep burning fossil fuels while
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  Speaker 5: patting themselves.
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  Speaker 6: On the back for saving the planet and doing such
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  Speaker 6: a great job.
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  Speaker 5: He reckons he's just gonna I don't know, sweet talk
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  Speaker 5: Trump around, but I do not see that happening.
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  Speaker 6: By the president who got elected.
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  Speaker 5: On a drill baby, drill platform, and he means business
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  Speaker 5: to South Australia now, where parents that whose children attend
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  Speaker 5: a private Catholic school in South Australia have been very
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  Speaker 5: very angered, rightly so, and extremely disappointed in their school
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  Speaker 5: when a recent sports day revealed a boy was completing
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  Speaker 5: against their girls. It's a thirteen year old transstudent who
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  Speaker 5: absolutely came first in both running, high jump, javelin discus,
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  Speaker 5: beat records some of which were up to thirty years old.
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  Speaker 5: So the parents are naturally saying, excuse me, this happened
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  Speaker 5: last year with the same student. Our daughters are losing
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  Speaker 5: to this biological boy. Why are you allowing this to happen.
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  Speaker 5: But once again, Catholic parents and Christians across Australia, you
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  Speaker 5: can't count on the government to back in basic biology.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what the Education Minister, Blair Boyer in South Australia
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  Speaker 5: had to say.
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  Speaker 6: He said, I can see that they are angry.
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  Speaker 5: But what I would say to them is the minister,
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  Speaker 5: I say to all our schools, I want them to
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  Speaker 5: be places where everybody feels welcome. And what can you
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  Speaker 5: expect from a government that has enshrined in law a denial.
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  Speaker 6: Of basic biology.
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  Speaker 5: This is the South Australian Departments of Education policy.
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  Speaker 6: It reads the goal of full.
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  Speaker 5: Participation by gender diverse children and young people in all
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  Speaker 5: types of sport. Activity includes participation in competitive sport.
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  Speaker 6: All children and young people.
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  Speaker 5: Must be supported to participate in events that align with
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  Speaker 5: their gender identity. This includes all sport run by schools,
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  Speaker 5: including inter school competitions and school sports South Australia.
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  Speaker 6: So what is the school supposed to do.
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  Speaker 5: It's got all these rightly angry parents on their hands
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  Speaker 5: and the poor schools just.
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  Speaker 6: Saying, look, this is the law. We have to do
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  Speaker 6: what the law.
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  Speaker 5: States, and that is to allow this boy to compete
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  Speaker 5: and beat all of your daughters. This once again, every
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  Speaker 5: time this comes up, it does my absolute head in
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  Speaker 5: because once you've changed the law to profer feelings over facts,
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  Speaker 5: all of the schools hands are tied, and rightly so.
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  Speaker 5: These Catholic parents who pay top dollar to send their
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  Speaker 5: child to a private school in the.
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  Speaker 6: Hopes that they won't be exposed to this kind of
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  Speaker 6: gender ideology.
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  Speaker 5: They're angry, the school's helpless, and the politicians just give
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  Speaker 5: off these one liners of we understand you're angry, but
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  Speaker 5: we don't care.
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  Speaker 3: We don't care, or the Education minister with that statement,
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  Speaker 3: I can see that parents are angry. The question I
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  Speaker 3: would ask is, so why do you think, minister, that
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  Speaker 3: parents are angry? Any idea as to why they might
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  Speaker 3: be upset? And parents, by all reports, are ropable, not
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  Speaker 3: only because their daughters are being unfairly disadvantage on the
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  Speaker 3: sport field, but the very reason they sent their kids
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  Speaker 3: to a Catholic school was to avoid much of the
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  Speaker 3: nonsense that goes on in the public system, only to
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  Speaker 3: find the Catholic school can't protect their kids either. They
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  Speaker 3: put the concerns for one child above all the other kids.
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  Speaker 3: That's the first mistake. The second mistake is they're going
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  Speaker 3: to destroy girls' sports. How many of these kids will
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  Speaker 3: be back on the athletics track next year having learned
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  Speaker 3: there's no point competing because there's a kid who obviously
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  Speaker 3: has an unfair advantage being of a different gender is
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  Speaker 3: going to destroy them all over again, so girls will
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  Speaker 3: just quit playing sport again. You're starting to normalize a falsehood.
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  Speaker 3: You're teaching children this gender ideology, theory that there are
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  Speaker 3: numerous genders, that genders are interchangeable. But the worst thing
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  Speaker 3: I think about this is you're undermining the goodwill of
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  Speaker 3: good people towards a kid who I presume has gender dysphoria.
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  Speaker 3: According to the news reports, many of the parents were
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  Speaker 3: at pains to tell the journalist, we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: see this boy abused. We don't want to see this
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  Speaker 3: boy ostracized. It's not about this boy and making an
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  Speaker 3: example of him. It's about fairness for our daughters. But
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  Speaker 3: when you ignore basic biology and fairness, then you drive
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  Speaker 3: parents to getting really upset, and whatever good will they
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  Speaker 3: had towards this student threatens to be undermined. So you're
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  Speaker 3: doing the young boy with gender dysphoria a disservice by
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  Speaker 3: allowing him to participate in girls sports.
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  Speaker 1: And surely fairness is the number one.
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  Speaker 4: Issue here and it always safety, it always has been right.
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  Speaker 1: So this is not legislation that should be noted.
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  Speaker 4: It's departmental policy which could change at any time, and
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  Speaker 4: I would have thought, as a Catholic school, you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to follow departmental policy because you're not operated by
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  Speaker 4: the Department of Education.
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  Speaker 1: You can do whatever the hell you want. And they've
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  Speaker 1: still made the choice to do this. But the policy itself,
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  Speaker 1: which is.
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  Speaker 4: What the minister has backed in and I thought Blair
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  Speaker 4: Boy was smarter than this.
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  Speaker 1: But the idea that the number but one thing.
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  Speaker 4: Is inclusion, well to that, I would say, and I
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  Speaker 4: understand that the goal, which is to not ostracize any.
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  Speaker 1: Particular student on board with that.
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  Speaker 4: But I would say, if you had a student who
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  Speaker 4: was in a wheelchair and he said that he wanted
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  Speaker 4: to compete in the cricket team, do you think they
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  Speaker 4: would change the composition of the sport in order to
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  Speaker 4: accommodate one child in a wheelchair in the cricket team.
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  Speaker 4: Probably not, because he can't bat, he can't bowl, and
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  Speaker 4: he'd find it very difficult to field.
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  Speaker 1: And so you say, well, sorry, there are.
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  Speaker 4: Just some things that you can't do because of a
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  Speaker 4: physical position you are in.
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  Speaker 1: And surely we can also say that to a child
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  Speaker 1: with gender dysphoria.
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  Speaker 4: If you identify as a girl, that is fine, and
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  Speaker 4: we'll support you whatever, But you can't compete as a
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  Speaker 4: girl in the school sports because it's not fair to
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  Speaker 4: the biological girls in the school and it's not safe
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  Speaker 4: on a physical level, particularly once you've gone through puberty
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  Speaker 4: for the girls to be competing against. You just have
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  Speaker 4: to accept that sometimes those things aren't available to you
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  Speaker 4: because there is something different about you. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that's to exclude someone. It's not to say that they
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  Speaker 4: are lesser than It's just to acknowledge an obvious truth.
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  Speaker 4: And of course it's the same in the military, right
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  Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't qualify. I mean, the rules may
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  Speaker 4: be different these days.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: They may have loosened them because they're just so desperate
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  Speaker 4: to get people in. But once upon a time I
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  Speaker 4: would not qualify for the military because I have problems
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  Speaker 4: with my left leg. It's shorter than my right leg,
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  Speaker 4: and my foots bung and all this sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So once upon a time they say, no, you cannot
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  Speaker 4: participate in the military because you are not a fit
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  Speaker 4: and able person to go out onto the battlefield.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going through.
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  Speaker 4: This discussion in the US again with transgender people at
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  Speaker 4: the moment, and you know that Trump said when he
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  Speaker 4: came to power again that he would get rid of
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  Speaker 4: transgender people in the military.
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  Speaker 1: And the day is ticking down.
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  Speaker 4: June sixth is the day that they will all be
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  Speaker 4: booted out. And the Defeend Secretary pa Hexith has said, look,
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  Speaker 4: you have the opportunity to leave now if you want,
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  Speaker 4: but if you don't on June sixth, we will remove you.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is talking about this policy.
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  Speaker 7: We are leaving warkness and weakness behind. No more pronouns,
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  Speaker 7: no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates.
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  Speaker 1: No more dudes in dresses. We're done with that.
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  Speaker 7: We're focused on lethality, meritocracy, accountability, standards, and readiness.
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  Speaker 4: And of course all the usual suspects have come out
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  Speaker 4: and said it's discriminatory and how dare you and it's
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  Speaker 4: shameful and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll make the same.
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  Speaker 4: Point as I made just before about a transgender child
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  Speaker 4: competing in sport as a girl who is obviously a boy.
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  Speaker 4: If you are a transgender person, you know, maybe they're
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  Speaker 4: off jobs. You can compete a complete sorry within the military.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're a transgender you have suffered from or
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  Speaker 4: are suffering from a mental disorder, which is gender dysphoria.
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  Speaker 4: It's in the DSM. It is a diagnosable mental illness.
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  Speaker 4: Now we have ways we say we can treat that.
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  Speaker 4: It's the only mental illness on the face of the
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  Speaker 4: earth where we actually lean into what is the problem
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  Speaker 4: to say we can then treat it. You're a person
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  Speaker 4: who is fundamentally, whether you like it or not, suffering
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  Speaker 4: with a mental battle, and so on that basis, it's
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  Speaker 4: not unfair to say that you're not a fit and
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  Speaker 4: proper person to serve in the military, just as you
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  Speaker 4: would say to someone who's got a gammy leg that
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  Speaker 4: they're not a fit and proper person to serve in
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  Speaker 4: the military. You want your best and brightest and certainly
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  Speaker 4: people you don't have to worry too much about when
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: they're on the front line serving in the military. And
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  Speaker 4: if you've got someone who is being treated for a
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  Speaker 4: mental illness and they are transgender or any other mental
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  Speaker 4: illness for that matter, they're not what the sort of
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  Speaker 4: person you want on the front lines, because they are
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  Speaker 4: a liability and a risk.
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  Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 3: Beyond that, there's the ongoing requirement of medication, especially once
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  Speaker 3: they've transitioned to sustain that. And furthermore, Donald Trump pointed
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  Speaker 3: out that if you've got a group of people men
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  Speaker 3: asserting to be women and then requiring everybody else to
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  Speaker 3: honor that his words, falsehood, then you're lacking the humility
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  Speaker 3: and selflessness that is required to be part of the military,
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  Speaker 3: where you're literally willing to lay down your life, not
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  Speaker 3: demanding that other people use the correct pronouns for you
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: on the battlefield.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Andrew Hastiback in twenty seventeen, of course he's the opposition
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: defense spokesperson. He pointed out that the reason he left
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: the military was he was sick of social engineering. And
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: of course we have difficulty now recruiting people for the military,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: he says, that's the reason he left. He quoted figures
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: saying that Australian taxpayers had spent a million dollars on
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: helping military person and l to transition to the opposite gender.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Is about twenty seven people over the five years up
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen, he said, and this continues in the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Australian military. So while the US military have said we're
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: not doing this anymore, we're focused on one thing lethality.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: The Australian military last year had an International Day against
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: homophobia by biphobia wherever it is, bisexual phobia whatever the
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: word is for that, and transphobia, and they had a
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: big article on the ADF website with a transgendered person
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: who's serving in the military saying getting a transition is
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: the best thing that ever.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Happened in my life.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: And so you've got two very different approaches to this
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: issue between Australia and our main military ally the US.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Well, Trump knows that in these tenuous geopolitical times, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: need a weaponized military, and that's what he and Heg Saith,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: who's the Defense Secretary now in the Trump administration, have
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: repeatedly said, we're returning to Mission first principles.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: And this is that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Just last week they ordered the Pentagon to order that
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: all their bases, all their military schools, all their military academies,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: review their libraries and get rid of all books that
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: involve LGBTIQ matters, as well as any books and literature
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: exploring racial identity. They have absolutely had it with this.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Kind of stuff.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: One of my favorite Hegseth quotes, he said earlier this year,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: he said, our diversity is our strength is the single
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: dumbest phrase in military history, because, of course, when you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: talking military, only one thing matters, and that is, as
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: you say, the best and the brightest are on the
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: front lines. It doesn't matter whether they're operating drones, it
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter if they've got guns in their hands, it
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter if they're peacekeepers on the ground. You want
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: people that you can rely on in all circumstances and
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: are in no way going to be a liability to
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: to the Dean.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's interesting the changing perceptions on this.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Back in twenty nineteen, a Gallop poll found seventy one
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: percent of Americans had no problem with transgendered people in
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: the military. As of February this year, that seventy one
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: percent has fallen to fifty eight percent, so more Americans
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: are becoming persuaded that it's not the place for transgendered
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: people in the military. But regardless of that, you don't
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: do a poll to work out who should serve on
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the front line of your military. You talk to your
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: military people and say what's the best way to protect
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the country and.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Just do that whatever it is.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Poles, Anthony Albanesi, of course won the pole
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: and is now getting his front bench in order. They'll
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: be sworn in tomorrow morning at nine o'clock. So he've
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: got two big news events tomorrow, the swearing in of
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the Labor government's front bench and of course the Liberal
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Party selecting.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: A new leader.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Anthi Albanzi has made some big changes, although at least
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: that's what the newspaper headline says. Albanzi makes big changes
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: to the front bench. I'm not so sure Anthe Albanizi
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: makes the changes as the fact.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: The Labor Party, they get into government and then you
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: work out it's actually decided there by quotas for men
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: and women from the left, from the right, from Victoria,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: from New South Wales.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It's very very democratic.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Anti alban Ezi reckons he's got the best people
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: selected for the front bench.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: I've changed to arranger portfolios around.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I've got people.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: Who are I think, in the best positions.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: That's what happens.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: And just as there are new members entering the cabinet,
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: there were new members last year as well, so there's.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: A couple of interesting changes that have been talking points today.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Tanya Plebisec of course, has been moved from the environment
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: portfolio to Social Services, which most people have been saying
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: today is an absolute coulder sack. It's funny, Liz, because
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Tannya Plebersec is regarded as one of the smartest people
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: in the labor government. But how smart are you if
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: you go around boasting that if you'd stood for the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: leadership against Ante Albanzi, you would have won. Consequence, she
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: finds herself now in Social services writing checks for welfare.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Another interesting one, of course, is Chris Bowen keeps his
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Energy Ministry portfolio, which is why I'll be down shopping
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: at what's that store called Dusk where you buy the candles.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I'll be down there tomorrow.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Mark Butler gets not only health but the NDS and
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: caleber I reckon. That's an interesting one because I would
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: have thought the NDIS is so cumbersome and in so
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: in need of reform. Can you really do health and
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: NDIS or should they have someone specialized to deal with
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that one? And I would love to know what you
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: think about Michelle Roland as the Attorney General.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: It's funny you should ask games, because yes, I have
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: some thoughts.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, talk about failing upwards. So I mean she
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was an abject.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Failure as Communications minister, you know, because she pushed the
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: miss and Disinformation Billain we dislike her for that, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: that was an abject failure. I mean they pulled the
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: legislation because they knew it wouldn't get over the line, right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: So who one big piece, you know, a bit like
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: albow and the voice.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Her one great.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Achievement that she would be able to go out and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: trumpet and talk about what she did when she was
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Communications minister, the Missing Disinformation Bill.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: She couldn't get it over the line. So she's failed
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: at the first hurdle, fall at the first hurdle.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: When it came to being communications minister. And now somehow
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: she's Attorney General. I mean, as Paul was saying before,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: you know, she failed with one piece of legislation. So
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: now they've just put her in charge of all the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: laws because that's definitely going to go well. And Anne
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Ali being brought forward into the cabinet. I mean, again,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: she's reasonably in offensive, but I didn't see her do
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: a particularly good job as a minister in the last government.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Of course, carried on about Palestine and whatever along with
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Ed Husick who's been booted, but there was nothing particularly
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: impressive about her.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: She makes it into capall business.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: She's been an academic before going in.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Well, well, who would know more about small business than
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: an academic?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: James, come on, seriously, what are you talking about? But
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: this is this, this is the thing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's good for people to actually see that
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: the inner workings of how this stuff happens in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Labor Party, because none of it is about merit. It's
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: all about you know, who owes who a favor and
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: what faction you're sitting in, what state you come from, etc.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It is like the definition of jobs for the boys.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: If you are.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Aligning yourself with the right guy, you get yourself.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: In the right position for the job. It's not about
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: who is the best person to do it. I mean,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: you can't tell me. And you know, I had issues
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: with Mark Dreyfus when he was Attorney General last time,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: and perhaps he's getting a bit long in the tooth,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and his demeanor certainly changed a lot after his wife died,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and I wondered whether perhaps he should have just given
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: up politics because he just wasn't in the right place.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: But you cannot tell me that Mark Dreyfus would do
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a worse job than Michelle Roland, or conversely that Michelle
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Roland is going to do a better job than Mark
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Dreyfus case would do as attorney general.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: For heaven's sake, not whatsoever.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: But as we've said repeatedly, it's faction deals.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: You got to do the deals.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: And Albanezy is basically doing as he's told by the
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: ruling faction leaders. And when you've got as much of
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: a majority as that guy does, who cares anyway, be
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: prepared for a lot more of this in the years
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: to come. Overseas now where an interesting video of three
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: world leaders has gone a viral today with people claiming.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Is this cocaine? Is this cocaine in this meeting on
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: the table.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Of course, the press, particularly the French press, because as
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: you'll soon see in this video, President Macron is featured,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: is saying this is scandalous what people are trying to
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: make of this, it's just a dirty tissue for.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Crying out loud.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: But watch this video of Macron, German Chancellor Merz and
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Keir Starmer pay close attention to the white thing on
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: the table and see what you make of it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It's a lot more.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: Literally, they made a lot out of that sheepish expression
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: as Macron removed it from the table and kind of
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: looked funny.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: But I want argues he'd do that even if it
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: was a dirty tissue. But of course, the people who
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: love using a I didn't miss a beat. Within seconds,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: this video made the rounds on the interwebs, with people
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: saying no, no, if they'd actually been doing coke, this
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: is what that gathering would have looked like.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: Never was it white powder?
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Was it a tissue?
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I cannot believe how much this went viral today. People
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: were posting it millions of views on the Twitter sphere.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: It was an absolute storm in a tea.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's clearly a tissue.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, besides the kokes that we're not
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: suggesting that they were doing coke, But you know, honestly,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I'd be more worried about the dirty tissue on the table.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: What sort of grub leaves their dirty tissue sitting on
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: the table and mean only things to get rid of it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: When the cameras finally start going, because he had no
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: problem when they all walked into the room, income sirk
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: here and all the cameras along with them. It's only
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: when they start taking photos. I'm not better, get me
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: dirty chip, Like, mate, didn't you learn anything when you
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: were a child.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I think his parents need to be spoken to.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: We know conclusively that it was not drugs. And the
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: reason we know is because you've got the French, the
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: British and the German leader.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: But who's absent Hunter.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Biden is not there, so we know it's a perfectly
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: legitimate thing. And as you said, Caleb, they walk into
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the places media already there. They're joking that. Some of
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: them look down at the table. They don't do anything.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: It's only when they get ready to pose for the
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: photo they tidy up the desk as any person normally
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: would do. The fact that some people who I guess
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: pursue credibility, like Denesh Desuza, is pushing this ridiculous conspiracy online.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know how he hoped to have credibility with
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: anything else when he's coming up.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: With rubbish like this. But there you go.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Well, let's be honest, some world leaders may well do
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: a bit of job if they were on cocaine.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You know, Joe Biden probably could.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Have done with a little bit from under it could have,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: you know, pepped.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Him up a bit.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Anyway, while we're talking about world leaders, Donald Trump may
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: well be in for a gift from they're offering him.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: The Katari government are offering him a brand new plane,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: a Boeing seven four seven that he says, if he
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: takes ownership of it, will be turned into a new
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Air Force one. There are two planes that currently operate
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: as Air Force ones. They are both seven four sevens,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: but they're thirty years old and they're in need of renovation.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: So the Qatari government said, look, mate, we'll fix you
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: up here, will lend you one, and I'll give you
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: one actually, and you can sort of do that up
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: and use it in the meantime, and then at such
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: time as the other two are available, they can come
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: back into service. So Trump is already saying this isn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: a done deal yet, by the way, but he's already saying, yep, fantastic.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I'll do it up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I'll fly around in it, and then at the end
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: of my presidency in twenty twenty nine, it'll go into
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: my presidential library. And of course people have hit out
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and said, but hang on a minute, can you really
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: be taking gifts from a foreign government. I mean, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: maybe a box of chocolates or something when you go
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: to visit a foreign dignitaries, okay, or they give you
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: some sort of local souvenir. But when the Katari government saying, hello,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: mister Trump, here is a Boeing seven four seven, is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It not a little bit over the line?
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Trump says no, he posted on his platform truth Social
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: So the fact that the Defense Department is getting a
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: gift free of charge of a seven four seven aircraft
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: to replace the forty year old Air Force one temporarily
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: in a very public and transparent transaction, so bothers the
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: crooked Democrats that they insist we pay top dollar for
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: the plane.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Anybody can do that. The dims a world class loses MAGA.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: So basically, if someone offers you something for free, you
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: may as well take it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, joe by ilk.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Peterson I think would probably be well on board with that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't let the thing go anywhere near the air
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: without checking it at least ten times.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, if.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: You thought he is the greatest way to monitor a
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: foreign government, would it not be for a foreign government
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: to give you a play where you know you've got
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: communications with the military and all this sort of stuff
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: on board and then tap it and keep an eye
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: on what the US is doing. Like you know, I
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: get what Trump's saying saving a lot of money, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: there are some serious integrity issues here.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's the perception of a conflict of interest, right,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and that the Katari government. Let's be honest, no one
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: gives away any something for free.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: So there's the perception issue.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: But the security issue is massive. You know, it's not
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a trojan horse, it's a trojan plane. There's the added
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: factor that Katar, of course, we're harboring hamas leaders not
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: that long ago and have connections to terrorism. Imagine if
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Obama took a plane from a Muslim country, the right
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and the Mega supporters would have gone off their heads at.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: This kind of stuff.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: The biggest issue is not a Boeing jet from Katar
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: or a jet from Qatar as a gift. The bigger
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: issue is Boeing itself, which is one of the great
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: American companies who've been working on a replacement Air Force
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: one since twenty eighteen. It was meant to be done
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: by now, but now they're saying it'll probably be twenty
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: twenty nine, maybe even later than that, before it's ready.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: They were given a contract of three point nine billion dollars.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It's gone billions of dollars over that. The real issue
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: is why can't American companies make stuff like they used to?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: That's what we should be talking about, rather than whether
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: or not it's appropriate to take a gift from Katar.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Trump should be focusing on Boeing, not on freebies from Qatar.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Indeed, and Boeing has had all kinds of troubles, as
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: we've talked about on this show before.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Weirdly, the whistleblowers keep.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Turning up dead. That's that's very strange. But there's two encounting.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I just love how Trump keeps referring to this is
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: just a fiscally smart move for the country, Like.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Why wouldn't we It's worth millions of dollars.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: This is something the taxpayer doesn't have to pay for.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: No conflict of interest to see here.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Trust Trump, the businessman, the ultimate businessman to try and
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: sell this, says, Oh, guys, at least we're not saying
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Isn't that a great deal?
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Who's going to look a gift hors in the mouth. Meanwhile,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: everyone's looking at that gift oft in the mouth, being
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: like from Qatar. Really, to be clear, the Qatari government
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: has not said that this is a done deal, so
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: we don't know that it's actually going to go ahead.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: But obviously Trump is well and truly flagged that in
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: the event that they are willing to give it to him,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: he's more than willing to take it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: But this opens up a really big problem, isn't because
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: if he takes a plane from Qatar, and that's how
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: you then decide that diplomacy is to be done. I
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: mean worldwide, do countries just start going around offering things
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: to everyone else and say, ah, well, let's see how
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: we go here. And of course we know China has
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: been in this business for a long time in a
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: very different way, debt diplomacy, where they offer you money
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: to do things in your country. Of course, there are
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: no strings attached to that money whatsoever. And don't forget
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: that Daniel Andrews wanted to do that here in Australia.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: He wanted to sign up to Belt and Road and
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: get money out of China to build infrastructure in Australia,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: and the federal government slapped that down and said no,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: it is a massive security risk if you're allowed to
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: take a plane from Qatar. I think that spills bad
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: things for not only the US, but the rest of
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: the world in terms of this sort of debt diplomacy.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I'll give you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Something and then one day I'll come along and ask
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: you to scratch my back, and what are you supposed
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: to do?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Then imagine how upset Airbus Elbow would be for this news.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, Trump gets a plane from Qatar and Elbow
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: gets what a panda from China, So he'd be pretty
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: ticked off Trump. Of course, it's all about corruption and
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: getting money. And of course Trump's off side at Elon Musk. Well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: he's just a fascist, according to many in Europe, because
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk has been actively supporting right wing political parties
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: across Europe. There's a ninety eight year old World War
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Two veteran who's had enough of the fascist Elon Musk,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: and he reckons we've beaten fascism once before, we can
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: beat it again. And here's Ted sorry Ken Turner's plan
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: to overcome the fascist Elon Musk.
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: I'm old enough to see fascism the first time around.
• 35:10
  Speaker 11: Now it's coming back. Eon Musk, theirs man in the world,
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: is using his immense power to support the far right
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: in Europe. I've got this message from mister Musk. We've
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: crushed fascism before and we'll crush it again.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: So there he goes over the Tesla. I got to say, Caleb,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: and this, I reckon. This is actually a great advertisement
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: for the Tesla because it doesn't come off that having
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: been run over by a tank. It's just turned into
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a convertible. But it survives pretty well. But get this
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: old guy. I mean, he's worried about the fascist elon
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Musk when he himself is living in a country where
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you'll get arrested for silent prayer outside an abortion clinic.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Give me a break.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, you know that's kind of taking
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: trump to arrangement syndrome to another level, isn't it. When
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: you decide to fire up the tank and drive over
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: a Tesla vehgle one less electric vehicle in the world,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: probably isn't a bad thing.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: So I might give him his dues.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: We've got a dirty diesel tank running and he aspects
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: us to think he's moral.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: But on the other hand, I do have to say,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: if you were ninety eight years old and as healthy
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: looking and as sharp as he is, and you got
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: to drive around in a tank and destroy stuff, I'd
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: be doing it all day long, whether it had political
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: motivations or not.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I aspire to be like Ken Turner when I'm ninety eight.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I have to say, Liz, what do you think of it?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Well, there were rumors that this was a paid actor
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: and that Ken Turner was a war veteran that actually
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: died in twenty twenty, and there was posts used to
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: prove this by the association that he used to be
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: part of. And certainly if that's true, it just goes
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: to show there's nothing there's no low the looney left
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: won't stoop to.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, if that's true, true, that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: You're actually piggybacking off a legitimate war veterans legacy for
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: cheap political theater like this, that's just beyond disgusting.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to go to a break.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: including increasing numbers of Australians traveling overseas so they can
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: select the gender of their baby, that and more in
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: just a moment, welcome back. Let's take a look at
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: what's making headlines tomorrow. We'll start with an interesting story
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: on the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser. The headline reads,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I picked a girl. Caitlin Bailey, she's a single mum
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: with three kids now having a fourth, traveled to the
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: US to select the gender of her baby. Spent forty
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: five thousand dollars to do so. This, of course is
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: banned in Australia. But she wanted two boys and two girls,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: so that's the pathway she's taken. And apparently, according to
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the papers, this is an increasing practice amongst Australians who,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: as I said, it's illegal to do it here, so
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: they're going overseas, for instance, to the United States, where
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you're allowed to do it. There's good reasons why this
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: is banned in Australia. You don't want to upset the
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: balance of sexes. That's an obvious one. But more importantly,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: you're commodifying children, aren't you. You're turning them into an
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: accessory or you know, a designer child. And what happens
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: in the event that the IVF process doesn't go as promised,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: and you know what, you ordered a boy and you
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: get a girl.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: What happens, then.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Sex selection is just completely morally bankrupt. I don't buy into.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: It at all.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised that the States haven't outlawed this as well.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: For obvious reasons.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: What happened to I'm just happy as long as the
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: baby's healthy, and you know, you leave that up to God,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: or if you don't believe in God, you leave that
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: up to fate.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: It's God regardless.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I just find this very very distasteful for
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: obvious reasons.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: It's just and biologically bad. It's obvious why this is bad.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Just look at China, I mean, and it's not by
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: process survivor if that they'd be.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: But for decades, particularly when they had the one child policy,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: everyone wanted a boy, and.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So you had sex selective abortion.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: If you knew we're having a girl, that'd get rid
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: of it, and baby girls would be dumped in the
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: street because parents didn't want them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: They wanted to have a boy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: And now that's all good and well when you're a
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: parent saying, well, I'm going to have the boy because
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: the boy earned a bit of income and all this
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: sort of stuff, But then what happens when you've got
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: seventy percent boys, thirty percent women.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: It hadn't been able to find anyone to marry.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: It just stuffs up the whole equilibrium of the world.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: You're getting into very dangerous territory when you start allowing
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: this kind of stuff, as you say, is I can't
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: believe that the US does allowed. Maybe that's one thing
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: instead of, you know, taking jets from guitar. Donald Trump
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: should take a look at that one. On the front
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: of the Olds tomorrow, he says, narrow path gives libs
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: little Lee.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Way Boom boom.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Susan Lee is confident of pipping Angus Taylor by a
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: couple of votes quote unquote in a tight leadership contest
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: to Pete replace sorry Peter Dutton as opposition leader. As
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: the combatants made last efforts to swing a rump of
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: undecided Liberal MPs to their camp. Senior Liberal sources set
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: a close victory for the acting opposition leader on Tuesday
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: could trigger a shaky early tenure for Miss Lee, who
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: could need to bring warring moderates and conservatives together. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: of course, we learn tonight that we may well see
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Tim Wilson throw his hat in the ring tomorrow, which
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: could spice things up a little bit. I don't think
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: it particularly matters at this point who Cliff is the leadership.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: They ain't going to be the next prime minister, so
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: whoever you are, your the seat warmer.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Essentially, I would have thought a close vote is the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: worst result, right, because as The Australian points out tomorrow,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: it's going be very difficult if you don't have clear
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: and overwhelming support to bring everybody together. And then in
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: addition to that, you've got the Nationals who are leaving
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: open the possibility after their meeting this morning that they
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: may dump net zero. So if the Liberal Party were
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: committed to net zero and the National Party were not,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: that's another problem that whoever leads the Liberal Party is
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: going to need to deal with trying to keep their
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: own party together and trying to keep the coalition together.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Indeed, like you say, though, Caleb, I don't think it
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: really matters whoever takes this poisoned chalice. He's going to
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: spend at least two terms in opposition, and to be honest,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think it really matters.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: We all know who the strong players are in the.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Opposition, most of us Grace the Sky News, most of
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: them rather Grace the sky News screens every week. Those
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: are the strong contenders for future government.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: But right now you just need a pincushion, as a
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: lot of people call it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: You just need someone who's going to stick it out
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: in opposition. Whoever gets this is never going to be
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Prime minister.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter from that perspective in terms of
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: who would be the next prime minister. But it probably
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: does matter to some degree in terms of how many
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: seats you can claw back at the next election to
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: set you up for what you want to do in
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: six years time. And your two options essentially are a
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: woman who added an extra s into her surname because
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: humerology told her to do so because she thought it
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: would change her personality, and the bloke who was shadow
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Treasurer who ran around saying that you know, we won't
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: back in the labor tax cut.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, like they are the two best options we've got.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Choby, what's crazier adding a consonant to your name to
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: change your personality or believing that if we all stop
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: using fossil fuels will change the temperature of the planet.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: She's not as crazy as some.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: It's a very good point.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Now, the story on the front of the olds tomorrow,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: US China pullback from reciprocal tariff's war. China hailed on
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Monday substantial progress with the US after talks in Geneva
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: on dialing down their trade will yielded dramatic cuts to
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: import tariffs. Donald Trump had imposed duties of one hundred
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and forty five percent on imports from China last month
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: as part of a global tariff blitz weill. Beijing hit
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Washington with the retaliatory duties of one hundred and twenty
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: five percent, as well as the blanket levies. China has
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: also been hit with sector specific tariffs, et cetera, et cetera.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: But we hear now that the US tariffs will fall
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: to thirty percent and the Chinese to ten percent.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So finally we get a little bit of movement here.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And look, you know, Trump always plays the long game
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: on these things.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: You know, everyone got upset about the stock market, but
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the stock market's gone back to exactly where it was
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: before all of this happened. He always wants something in return,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: and he's slowly working his way towards it.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And they've got to do something about China otherwise America
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: will no longer be the superpower of the world.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And for everyone who.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Hates America, what would you prefer China ruling the world.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: So Trump's got to address the imbalance with China, and.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: He's doing it absolutely and hey, it works there remotely.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Friends.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Again to the front page of The Herald Sun, now
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Alan's big cell. The splash reads exclusive premiere steps up
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: blitz on crime with jail beds, boost seven hundred and
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: twenty extra guards and tougher sentences for attacks on prison staff.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: The article reads, almost one hundred new beds will be
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: opened in children's prisons and three hundred fast tracked for
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: adult jails under a seven hundred million dollar expansion of
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: the state's corrections system prompted by the Allen government's tough
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: new bail laws.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: The package will also.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Fund and estimated seven hundred and twenty new jobs. Wasn't
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: it just last month we were talking about the prisons
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: that would never open in Victoria because they were infested
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: with more and they too cost hundreds of millions of dollars,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: and they're just sitting there, absolutely useless, never to be opened,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: and we haven't heard anything further regarding that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I think I was something like four hundred old beds
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and they were going to have to redo the whole
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: thing because the bill just got infested with lock. You know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: good on them for saying I will build some more,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: but you already had them there. For heaven's sake, you
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: just got a dodgy job done last.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And don't forget Former Police Commissioner Shane Patten got on
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the wrong side of Justinto Allen when he suggested bail
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: law should be tightened and she said, well, we can't
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: do that because we don't have enough money to house
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: the extra people that would be incarcerated if we tightened
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: bail laws. Well, it turns out Shane Patten was right.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: They've suddenly found the money and they're doing something about it.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the Career Male. Interesting story on the
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: front page there for Queenslanders toll story Bridge push reads
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: the headline repairs needed on bridge. It has just twenty
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: years left. Queensland's iconic story bridge is disintegrating so badly
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: it could soon be turned back into a toll bridge
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: for the first time since nineteen forty seven. Or Brisbane
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: ratepayers maybe slugged a special levy to pay for repairs.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: According to a new report. The bridge is eighty five
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: years old. Over the past five years, they've spent eighty
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: million dollars over the last five years.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Repairing the bridge. It's riddled with rust.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Now they're asking the federal government to stump up four
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: and a half million dollars, not to repair the bridge,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: but to put together a business case as to how
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: they might be able to raise the money needed to
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: keep this bridge operational. It's kind of unbelievable that they
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: would get themselves into a situation where they have so
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: little time, needs so much money, and considering tolling Queenslanders
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: to use the bridge. As I said, hasn't been a
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: toll bridge since nineteen forty seven.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: When you go to a.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Break, when we come back, a school teacher is compensated
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: after being sacked for having a untidy desk.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: That's coming up in just a moment. All right, welcome
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: back to the program, Liz. I've got a question for you.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: A clean freak or you're a messy kind of perpose.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: I'm messy, but it's organized chaos. So on that front,
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: I am with mister Murphy who has lost his plea
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: against dismissal. He tried to challenge it, but the Fair
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Work Commissioners said that while his firing from one of
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Melbourne's leading Catholic schools was harsh, it was not unreasonable
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: and in fairness to the school, it wasn't just his
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: messy desk. It was his failure to provide timely feedback
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: to students, poor dealings with colleagues, and his untidy desk.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: So it must have been pretty.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Bad to actually get a mention in their case against
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: this teacher.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Like but still, you know you're drawing up we want
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: to manage this dude out of the joint whatever we're
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: going to get rid of him, Like who actually goes yes, Well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: write down the untidy desk and give that to him
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: on his dismissal slip. Like as I said before, if
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: that's grounds for dismissal, I don't know how I still have.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Is it all connected? What's that old expression untidy desk?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Untidy mind?
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: No, but it's like the man killed a man.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Scientists who you know solved the problems of the world,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: they all have untidy discs because their lives are just crazy, right,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: That's how they have the creativity in the and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: lateral thinking to come up with these.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: And this fellow was teaching Latin religious education, Italian and
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: classic Greek.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: You don't exchange someone to Aliba. I don't have a
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: tidy here's.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: An absolute BRAINI act. I think he's been had done
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: by fourteen grand. Is no compensation for being sacked for
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: an antidy disk as far as I'm concerned, I'll tell
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you what. One bloke who won't be getting any compoent
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Radley so dumb criminal of the day. He may well
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: be the dumb criminal of the year. At ten past
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: twelve this morning in Collingwood in Melbourne, a guy decided
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to break into.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: The cop shop in Collingwood. No, I'm not joking.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: He started with a cop car and then he broke
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: a window to get into the cop shop. And of
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: course the copper's got the call and said.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: You've got to go to a break in. Where is it?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: It's at your police station.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, how dumb do you have to be to
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: break into a police station.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: If there is one place where.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: You are likely to get caught for committing the crime
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: of breaking enter, I dare say it's a police station.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Would He just wanted to be with his fellow Collingwood
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: football so.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: He wants to be in the prison bar.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: We gotta go. That's it from us stick Around. Coming
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: up is The Reader Peddy Show. Good Night,