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Chuck & Buck 5-6 Hour 3: Spencer Hawes, ABC's of the Mariners and O.P.Q. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: For a second year in a row. As we ench
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  Speaker 1: closer and closer we feel in our hearts and loins
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  Speaker 1: to the NBA. Returning to Seattle, we have decided to
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  Speaker 1: ask Spencer Owes to join us for the entire NBA
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  Speaker 1: Playoffs once per week to talk about and discuss what
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  Speaker 1: he sees going down in the NBA Playoffs. And so
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  Speaker 1: it is time to talk with the local legend, the
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  Speaker 1: U dub former big man and longtime what ten eleven
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  Speaker 1: year NBA veteran Spencer Hawes now joins this year on
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  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Hello sir, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Now were you how many years that were you in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA?
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  Speaker 2: Ten? Ten?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good number right there. Ten years, ten year?
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  Speaker 2: NBA couldn't beat my uncle?
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  Speaker 1: Oh how many?
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  Speaker 2: Did so?
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  Speaker 1: He was eleven? I take it.
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  Speaker 2: Then, oh he was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's fine. You know you didn't need to have
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  Speaker 1: bragging rights over uncle Steve, did you.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking for him, but wasn't in the cars.
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  Speaker 1: Ten years. That's a good run. That's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: good career right there. Well, good to have you on.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, so we appreciate it. Have
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  Speaker 1: you done anything fun to take advantage of this great
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  Speaker 1: weather we're having here. In the last week and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Played a lot of golf, went and watch Moonhos blow
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  Speaker 2: another game, enjoyed the golf more.
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  Speaker 1: Were you there last night?
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  Speaker 2: I was there last night.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I was there too as well. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't run into you, though, And you're not a You're
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  Speaker 1: not an easy guy to overlook, as it turns out,
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  Speaker 1: So we just didn't run in the same circles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was sitting in the what turned out the
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  Speaker 2: brave section. And they even got a little tomahawk chocking play,
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  Speaker 2: which I hate to see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that annoyed you. That annoyed the hell out of you. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be fine. He'll be fine. Don't worry about Mooney.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be fine. They'll be fine. It's gonna be okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun summer, Spencer, I promise you,
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  Speaker 1: I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So it's they always do this, so the optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: They do, even when they're good, they still do this
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  Speaker 1: to us. All right, Well, let's talk some NBA playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Then not. There's another subject. I know you're not gonna love.
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  Speaker 1: But the Oklahoma City Thunder rolled through round number one
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  Speaker 1: and it kind of feels like they're gonna roll through
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  Speaker 1: round number two as well. An eighteen point win over
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  Speaker 1: the Lakers last night. Do you see a scenario where
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  Speaker 1: the Lakers can upset the Thunder.
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  Speaker 2: If Luca's hamstring magically deals? But no, that's a I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it pains me to say it. But the Thunder a
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  Speaker 2: really good. Yeah. They're really deep, they're really balanced. They
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  Speaker 2: set the tone with their physicality on defense, and they're
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  Speaker 2: flopping on offense and all together, it's a tough nomination.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about flopping before we talk further about since
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  Speaker 1: you brought it up, because it's become a big topic.
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell was accused of it. Donovan Mitchell was angry
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  Speaker 1: that he was accused of it. Obviously, it's had a
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  Speaker 1: place in basketball for a long time, too big a place.
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  Speaker 1: If you ask me in the NBA, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on flopping and how you could possibly get rid
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  Speaker 1: of it in the sport?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I think it. It almost immigrated here as kind
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  Speaker 2: of a European specialty, you know, many years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: then you know, the offense always kind of evolving quicker
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  Speaker 2: than defenses. Found it as a reliable tool for guys,
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  Speaker 2: for scorers to implemented their games. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a handful of years ago and they may concerted effort
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  Speaker 2: where they started playing it and finding guys and and
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  Speaker 2: really making it detrimental if you can cross the line
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  Speaker 2: with it. And I don't know what's happened where it's
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  Speaker 2: they kind of went away from that. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if there was some pushback by the players Association or
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  Speaker 2: what happened, but I would like to get it. I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to see you get back to the point where
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  Speaker 2: there's some uh, you know, there's some ways to try
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  Speaker 2: and disincentivize it, whether it be you know, a technical
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  Speaker 2: or a fine or whatever combination, because it these guys
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  Speaker 2: are good enough, and I know that's always their account
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  Speaker 2: of lagument. They don't I don't need to flop the score,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just so obvious in a lot of these situations.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's part of what makes the Thunder
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  Speaker 2: so tough, is they set tone on defense with their
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  Speaker 2: physicality and kind of adhere to the theory that you
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  Speaker 2: can't call everything. We're going to put the onus on
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  Speaker 2: the officials. And then on the other end, it obviously
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  Speaker 2: kind of starts with Shay and now they got everybody
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  Speaker 2: doing it, chets jumping backwards into people on pump face.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's I don't want to take away from
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  Speaker 2: from their teams, their talent and what they've accomplished, but
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  Speaker 2: it's it's frustrating because they don't need to do it,
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  Speaker 2: and yet they seem to continue to.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. I mean, you remember Vlatti Divots. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was the guy that was most famous for flopping,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody hated him for flopping, and you really thought
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  Speaker 1: at the time that, oh, here, we'll make an example
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  Speaker 1: out of this guy and they'll get this curbed.
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  Speaker 2: In no time.
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  Speaker 1: He obviously don't want this to be a part of
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  Speaker 1: the of the NBA, and it's almost like it had
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  Speaker 1: the reverse effect. It's like he inspired a generation and
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  Speaker 1: a half of basketball players because it just happens way
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  Speaker 1: too much in a game from way too many Team Spencer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and there's there's a great example of a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was more than talented enough. Yeah, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: someone like me is out there flopping to try and
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  Speaker 2: steal an extra pair of free throws are too that's understandable.
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  Speaker 2: But someone like Bloody devots. He's he's got too many
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  Speaker 2: arons and the quiver to be doing it. But I
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  Speaker 2: think you're right. I think it showed that, Uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a viable way to draw foulsand getting
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  Speaker 2: the bonus and get yourself free throws and and you know,
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  Speaker 2: put the other players or the other team's best players
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  Speaker 2: on the bench in South trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate. Spencer ass is with us when you
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  Speaker 1: watch Lebron play now. I mean, he had twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: points and a loss last night, but forty one years old.
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  Speaker 1: How impressed are you by Lebron James still being able
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  Speaker 1: to play at this level at forty one.
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  Speaker 2: I am. I more and more impressed after every Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: night game a whack that I come home on Thursday
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  Speaker 2: and feel how I feel playing adult adult men's rec league.
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  Speaker 2: It turned me into a fan. I've never been the
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  Speaker 2: biggest fan, but you have to appreciate the way he
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  Speaker 2: prepares and the way that he's maintained this level of
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  Speaker 2: excellence in the you know, now well into two decades
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA, but I think I saw something a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago he came out and played in the
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  Speaker 2: Proium down at SPU and the game got called. It
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  Speaker 2: was actually the game Shit ended up hurting his foot
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  Speaker 2: earlier in it, and the game got called because there
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  Speaker 2: were too many people and the floor was sweating. It
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  Speaker 2: was dangerous, and everybody went downstairs and he got to
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  Speaker 2: work out in with the JONTE and watching the way
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  Speaker 2: that I think that was July, so he still got
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  Speaker 2: a couple months before a training camp, the way that
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  Speaker 2: he trains, the level of conditioning that he was doing
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  Speaker 2: at that point of the offseason, when not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guys are up and up like that, I think
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  Speaker 2: it gave me kind of a brief look into Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this makes sense how this guy is able to maintain
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  Speaker 2: that level of performance and his you know, going into
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  Speaker 2: his third third decade.
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  Speaker 1: Playing Who's playing you in a recly? What kind of
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  Speaker 1: a competitive rec league do you have if you're playing
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  Speaker 1: and not? I mean, are you is it other former
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  Speaker 1: NBA players? Are you just walking out there and beating
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  Speaker 1: up on you know, pipe fitters and third grade teachers
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  Speaker 1: at the rec league?
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  Speaker 2: Ste and JJ's quote, there no shout out Big Solomon
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  Speaker 2: down at the whack. Salomon played in the NBA for
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  Speaker 2: a few years, but no we got a good little
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  Speaker 2: run going. But okay, it's a hard court, it's a
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  Speaker 2: hard surface, and you know, my old joints feel it.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's talk about the Detroit Pistons. Kate
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  Speaker 1: Cunningham said that the Orlando Magic made made the Pistons
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  Speaker 1: look in the mirror and dig a little deeper, and
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  Speaker 1: since that time they've won four straight games, including a
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  Speaker 1: ten point win last night. How impressed are you with
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  Speaker 1: Cad Cunningham in the way that he I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: just he's like an assassin out there, but that he
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  Speaker 1: can be that aware that, hey, we we have to
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  Speaker 1: be better and why are why are the Orlando Magic
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  Speaker 1: checking is?
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  Speaker 2: Why are they?
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  Speaker 1: Why are they beating up on us this series? And
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  Speaker 1: he can turn that as a leader that series on
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  Speaker 1: a dime, just by a little more self awareness.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think they, I think he and they collectively
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  Speaker 2: realized that they were getting beat at their home game
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  Speaker 2: by a you know, lesser talented opponent, and well it's
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  Speaker 2: a wake up call for them that, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: they're not if they're not playing with that level of
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  Speaker 2: physicality and imparting their you know, their will, which is
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  Speaker 2: one of the strengths of their team on their opponents,
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  Speaker 2: they're they're vulnerable because they don't have that shooting that
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  Speaker 2: every other team that's left seems to rely on. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Cade is making an argument to be the
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  Speaker 2: best player still going in the East. And I think
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  Speaker 2: he woke up, the team woke up, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason they were the number one seed in
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  Speaker 2: the East. They did it over the course of the season. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs shift, and I think it just might have
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  Speaker 2: taken them a little longer to adjust to playoff basketball
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  Speaker 2: and what it takes to win in the playoffs, being
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  Speaker 2: a younger team without having a ton of experience in
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  Speaker 2: those environments.
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  Speaker 1: Talking NBA playoffs with Spencer Hall's tenure NBA veteran, and
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  Speaker 1: of course it's going to be joining us every week
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  Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs to talk some NBA playoffs. So how
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  Speaker 1: surprised are you that the Boston Celtics have been eliminated
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  Speaker 1: from this thing?
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  Speaker 2: Surprised but not shocked, I think, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you can put it better than Joe Mizzoula did.
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  Speaker 2: What happened in that series they got in beedback. That
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  Speaker 2: was that was their weakness all year. They obviously tried
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: at the deadline to to short up a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: going out and trading for which they got, you know,
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  Speaker 2: got up three to one, and then the process woke up.
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  Speaker 2: He got healthy enough. It looks like he's still learn
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: a flat jacket out there with his with his appendix.
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  Speaker 2: But when you live by the three, you die by
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  Speaker 2: the three. We all know that, and I think that reliance,
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  Speaker 2: especially given you know the position they put themselves in
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  Speaker 2: this year and then h coming back in the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: and still kind of trying to figure out the pecking
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  Speaker 2: order of Jalen Green carrying them all year or not
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Jalen Green, Jalen Brown, excuse me, and Tatum working his
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  Speaker 2: way back in. It just it seemed like that they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have enough time to kind of sort that out,
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  Speaker 2: and running to a Philly team that was desperate and
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  Speaker 2: got their best player back and kind of playing for
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  Speaker 2: his legacy to a certain extent, and it was the
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  Speaker 2: perfect formula to knock them out in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think maybe that this may force some change.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of basketball fans aren't in love
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  Speaker 1: with the NBA right now, and one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: that they just shoot way too many threes, and I
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  Speaker 1: think people do understand that. Analytically, there was a formula
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  Speaker 1: that suggested why they should be shooting more than forty
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  Speaker 1: threes per game. But with the Celtics being eliminated and
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  Speaker 1: the Warriors barely a playoff team, I mean, we're are
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  Speaker 1: we possibly seeing a shift away from it in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Are the warning signs there to get back to a
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  Speaker 1: game that's a little more balanced and not so reliant
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  Speaker 1: on chucking it up from three point land?
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  Speaker 2: I hope. So I think you could throw Cleveland in
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  Speaker 2: that in that camp as well, because when they're good,
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  Speaker 2: they're making shot and they're fun to watch and they're
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  Speaker 2: getting up and down. But when they're bad, they have
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  Speaker 2: stretches with yeah, two, three, four minutes where it seems
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  Speaker 2: like they don't even you know, they'll have a layup
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  Speaker 2: and kick it out for a three. So I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So we discussed this before. I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: moving it back doesn't seem to be the answer. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about winding the court. That seems logistically to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty difficult, but it is. It's hard to watch. It
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  Speaker 2: gets compounded in the playoffs, and it's I think It's
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons you see some of these some
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  Speaker 2: of these spreads in these games, you know, the Knicks
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  Speaker 2: Sixers the other night. It's if you're not making them,
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  Speaker 2: it can get ugly, and then the next game you
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  Speaker 2: turn around and it can be a twenty to thirty
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  Speaker 2: point game the other way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, now that the Sixers have gotten past the
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  Speaker 1: Celtics at this point, I mean, I know they lost
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  Speaker 1: by thirty nine to the Knicks, but I still think
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of dangerous. I mean, of Embiid and Paul
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  Speaker 1: George been healthy at the same time during the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's ever happened. And then you
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  Speaker 1: add that backcourt, which is just I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a track meet breaks loose with those
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  Speaker 1: two guys in the back court. So even though they
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  Speaker 1: lost by thirty nine to the Knickson, Game number one,
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  Speaker 1: do you give the Sixers a shot to get back
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  Speaker 1: into this series and possibly win it?
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  Speaker 2: I do. I think that game was you need to say,
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  Speaker 2: a throwaway game in the playoffs or a schedule loss
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs, because every game is so valuable, but
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  Speaker 2: coming off an emotional Game seven on the road, not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of rests guys that are obviously banged up
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  Speaker 2: to begin with. I think that was to me that
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  Speaker 2: was the most predictable, Not a thirty nine point ross,
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  Speaker 2: but that was the most predictable loss of the start
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  Speaker 2: of the second round. And I think they probably look
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  Speaker 2: at it like, all right, we you know, we we
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  Speaker 2: selt them out. We kind of know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And a series of the start till someone wins on
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  Speaker 2: the road, So that one, I think that one was
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  Speaker 2: the least surprising of the first kind of this early
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  Speaker 2: plate getting into the conference.
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  Speaker 1: Summis, Yeah, yeah, I agree with that as well. And
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  Speaker 1: then that lead Spurs and Timberwolves. My goodness, was that
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  Speaker 1: an entertaining game Number one. I hope that's what we
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  Speaker 1: get for seven games, because that was maybe the most
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  Speaker 1: fun I've had watching a basketball game in a long,
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 2: Spencer, Yeah, I had fun until till the final buzzer
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  Speaker 2: when when Julian wasn't able to make that set three.
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  Speaker 2: But I have no idea how Anthony Edwards is back
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  Speaker 2: playing basketball. I thought his knee exploded and we'd be
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  Speaker 2: talking about seeing him by the end of the next season.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, us, to us the hell of a
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  Speaker 2: drug and he's an incredible athlete, and credit to him
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  Speaker 2: forgetting himself back out there. You know, he looked hotuple
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  Speaker 2: at times, but he was able to hold it together.
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  Speaker 2: And Minnesota is a tough matchup in the playoffs because
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  Speaker 2: you know, Colbert, for all his criticism, is an all
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  Speaker 2: time defensive rim protector. And I thought Chris Finch did
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  Speaker 2: an incredible job in that second half. First first half
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  Speaker 2: was a little muddy and neither team was really making shots,
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  Speaker 2: but he put Wemby in the action in the third,
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  Speaker 2: you know, once coming out of halftime, and I know
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  Speaker 2: he had eleven or twelve blocks, but there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of plays late in that game
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  Speaker 2: where he wasn't able to contest contest shots at the
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  Speaker 2: rim and the Wolves were able to take advantage of
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  Speaker 2: getting downhill. And so that's a you know, credit to him.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of cooked that up. And I know, I
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  Speaker 2: know Mitchell is going to have some adjustments tonight to
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  Speaker 2: get that series back on track for the Spurs.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I talked about this yesterday. I get your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on it as well, because I think maybe the
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  Speaker 1: most unfair thing that a fan or a talk show host.
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  Speaker 1: A loudmouth talk show host can do to professional athletes
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  Speaker 1: is like question their toughness or question whether or not
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  Speaker 1: they should play through an injury. We don't have the information.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fair for us to weigh in on it.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's career could be on the line. And yet you
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  Speaker 1: watch Anthony Edwards suit up in Game one, and Jason
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  Speaker 1: Tatum not suit up for Game seven, and Kevin Durant
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  Speaker 1: basically not suit up at all in the Lakers series,
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  Speaker 1: and it does get fans talking, like you know, it
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  Speaker 1: does get them, you know, weighing one against another and
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  Speaker 1: whether or not they want it badly enough. So how
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  Speaker 1: do you how do you take all that information in
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  Speaker 1: and what would be your message to the the loudmouth
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: sports talk show hosts or fan that is questioning things
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  Speaker 1: like will desire, hunger, and toughness.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll give you an anecdote that because I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was that say, I was that talk show host.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember when Rishard Lewis hurt
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: his toe in the playoffs. I think it was like
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: the four oh five playoffs. He had turf toe, and
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  Speaker 2: I remember just being so like, how can you your
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  Speaker 2: toe how can you not shoot that up? How can
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  Speaker 2: you not play? And then uh, that's one point in
• 18:20
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• 18:22
  Speaker 2: realized pretty quickly it's it's hard to judge somebody when
• 18:26
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• 18:28
  Speaker 2: what they're going through. And I think in Tatum situation,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: if if he was feeling anything, he wasn't going to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: play with what he just gone through. And then reports
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: get out that you know, it was some calf and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the need and coming off the achilles, I think there's
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: we've seen enough examples of uh where the calf, where
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a cat string goes in the playoffs, unfortunately way too
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: much recently with with Stars going down, and so I've
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I've definitely shifted my tone on on blaming guys for
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: sitting out, whether it's you know, it's hurt versus injured,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: load management versus a legitimate injury, and I think it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: just they're too important to the franchise, They're making too
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: much money to roll the dice on playing through something that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: especially with the you know recently what we've seen with
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the achilles academic, I think I doubt there's many fans
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in Boston that are that are too disappointed that he
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: didn't try and put that one out.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: So more of Anthony Edwards was more reckless than Jason
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Tatum was soft.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That's all I mean. Obviously, whatever whatever's conspired or whatever's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: happened between when he heard it in that first round
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and now, he feels the team if it were if
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it was still that bad team wouldn't let him go
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: out and play. Obviously, whatever they've seen unimaging and uh
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and with the inflammation and why not, it's at a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: point where collectively he feels a lot enough to play,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and maybe their medical statuels confident enough to learn more
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: out there and play through it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, I don't want to be hypocritical
• 20:11
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• 20:14
  Speaker 1: but I think even though you're achy and sore from Wednesday,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you need to suit up and play next Wednesday. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear any excuses.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You sound like my captain. I'll work on it.
• 20:28
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• 20:33
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• 20:36
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• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Mariner conversation and not necessarily be hung up on the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: results of last night's game. Even though we are hung
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: up on the results of last night's game just a bit.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: A three to two loss to the Atlanta Braves, another
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: game in which our closer did not get the job done.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: So let us start with as for Andres as in
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Andre's Munnos, and yes, he's sitting there with a six
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to era right now. He hasn't blown a lot of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: saves this year, but kind of feels like he's blown
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of saves so far. This year's only two
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: technically saves that he's blown to this point in the season,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: But last night he ends up with the loss, his
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: third of the season already. I mean, he's not at
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: his sharpest, there's no question about it. There's something a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: little bit wrong with the slider. He doesn't quite have
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the command of it that he wants to. I'm still
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: not that worried. I was just asked last night by
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Dick Faine during their pregame show on the soft In
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Fane radio program, where my level of confidence is with
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Andre's Munos on a scale from one to ten, And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I told him nine and a half. And I maybe
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: maybe I nine and a quarter now after another blown
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: opportunity last night. But truth of the matter is, there's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: nobody else that I would go with as our closer
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: at this point. And he's been elite the last couple
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of years, and I'm not looking at somebody that looks
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like he's all that off of his game. He's fastball,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: still around one hundred the average fastball. I mean people,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I think some comments earlier this week on YouTube or
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: something about like ninety nine the velocity is down. No, no,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's not. His average velocity is below one hundred.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: He doesn't for one hundred every time.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: No, he can get to one oh two. But his average,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, even Mason Miller doesn't have an average velocity.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure over one hundred miles per hour. So
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Andre's Muno's to be at ninety nine, nothing wrong there.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He's got twenty five strikeouts and fifteen innings of work.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: That's a great strikeout rate. He's allowed fewer than one
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: hit per inning, which is fine. He's walked a few
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: too many, and he doesn't have control of the slider,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't quite have confidence in throwing that two
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: seamer or that change up that he's developed that I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: think looks wicked at times, and so he's a little
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: bit off of his game last night. I think that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: had a lot more to do with matt Olsen being
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: completely on his game. This is a very good hitter
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: in Matt Olsen, who is on a great run right now,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: facing a very good to great closer who's off his
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: game a little bit, and Olsen just beat him. I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that was just a hell of a swing by matt Olsen.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So my confidence level with Andre's munnos Ashley is still
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: incredibly high. I don't want anybody else to close. I'm
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: not even considering anybody else closing at this stage.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still feel confident that he can get the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: job done.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I will say I all always get a little nervous
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: when there is because he does. He has in the past,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and it has continues to make us get a little
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: nervous in the night, he'll get put some runners on.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I mean he makes things sometimes closer than it has
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: to be, but he gets the job done more often
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: than not. I think it's just a little bit exaggerated
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: right now because, as you said, he's off his game.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: But Olsen, yeah, he's hitting three toho eight. I mean,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the guy is off to an incredible first month and
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: a half of the season, So more credit due to him.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's having like a historic season. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: mean the season that he's off to from the Braves history.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: He's just all the extra base hits that he has,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the home runs. I mean, Matt Olson's just killing it
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: right now. Anybody's going to have a hard time getting
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that guy out right now, the way that he's hitting
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a baseball. But I'm not worried about Mooney's He's going
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to be fine and we're going to be glad that
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: we have have him as the season progresses. B is
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: for bonuses. I just say one other thing about Munio's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they when you do throw one hundred,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I mean he throws so many sliders. I mean everybody
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: can just especially left handed. They know he's going to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: throw a slider. It's all that Cal and Garver call
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: for him, and I get that he's got a great
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: slider when he's on, but it's not really on right now, right.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just branch out.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I mean they're all sitting slider right now with him,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: especially on the first pitch. So maybe something to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: aware of. Bias for bonuses, I think more than bonuses.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But we had Bill Krueger bias for Bill on an
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: hour ago, and we talked almost all pitching with him,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: but he brought up something right at the tail end
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to try to soothe everybody. He's not worried. I'm not worried.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think Ashley's so worried about a seventeen and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: twenty record thirty seven games into the season. Disappointed, frustrated, aggravated, annoyed,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: but not worried. I still think that they're going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: win this division comfortably. They're just not hitting the baseball
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: so far this season. But in terms of a silver
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: lining thought, Bill Krueger pointed out something and we've discussed
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: both of these things at length, but he just sort
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of pinpointed it for us to wrap up the conversation
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: at seven oh five, and that was, you know what,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: thirty seven games end of the year. Even though you're
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: three games under five hundred, which is disappointing, it kind
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of feels like we've found our second basement of the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: future and we've unlocked another young starting pitcher who looks
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: at minimum to be a mid rotation starter, and the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: way he's pitched so far this year, maybe a near
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: top of the rotation starter because Emerson Ancock's been as
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: good as anybody right there with Jeorge Kirby to start
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: this season, and that is pretty decent silver lining to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: look at that we were there were a lot of things.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that are happening right
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: now that we weren't expecting from the standpoint of how
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: bad we've been in some areas, and that includes Cal
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: hitting one to eighty, That includes Josh having gotten off
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to the terrible start, the defense being a lot worse
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: than we expected, bullpen injuries which were not all that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: accustomed to sing. So there are a lot of things
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that we weren't expecting that have been bad. But as
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Bill points out, there have been a couple of things
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: that we weren't expecting that have been great, and that
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is Cole and Emerson?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, both awesome silver linings, both wonderfully positive points.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And there are some other little things here and there
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that you can look at and say, yeah, this is
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: a positive. I mean, Luke Rayley's been better this year.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: There's certain things that you can look at and say, well,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: if we look at all these things aside from the record,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: we're in a pretty good place. But Emerson and Cole Young,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: those have got to be the two big ones.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Seah, because it's one thing to have a couple of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: guys that are hotter than you would have thought or streaky.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Those two just look for real. Stay looks like he
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: has figured it out, and Cole looks like he's taken
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the next step and looks like he's going to be
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: here for a long time. So very exciting. Finally, see
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: is for Crawford. Of course, I'm beating up on JP
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: quite a bit this year, beat up on him quite
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a bit last year. But you know, it's been a
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: sore spot for me his play at shortstop so far
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: this season. And of course you've heard Bucky and I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: for years now talk about why is JP always swinging
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: for the fences? He's got ten twelve home run power
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: per season. That's not how he's valuable. He can't be
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that guy. Well, Ryan Healy was on with US yesterday
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and he actually took that criticism to JP to find
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: out what he thought about that. Here's what Ryan said
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: with us yesterday about us thinking JP Crawford's always swinging
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: for the fences.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I had a chance to speak with JP about that
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: while I was in Seattle, and he brought that up
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: because I was talking about his early work in some
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: of the moves he was making. There was like a
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: specific move that I saw with his barrel wheres barrel
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: kind of loads towards the pitcher, and then he's trying
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: to be very direct to the baseball. So I was
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: just talking through some feels and some cues with him,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: and he was telling me, he's like, man, that what
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I was trying to feel is just as short and
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: directed as I can. He goes when I get out
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: of whacked, I feel like I'm almost side crunching and
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: crashing towards the baseball, and then I end up just
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: unloading this big swing. So all the fans and the
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: media they think I'm trying to swing for the fences.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Whereas realistically, my body's just all out of whack and
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: I can't deliver the normal swing that I'm used to delivering.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: So it's not that the intent is trying to do damage.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: It's the intent of JP's trying to catch up with
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: one hundred mill an hour fastball, and when his body
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: feels unorganized during the loading process of his swing, it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: gonna look unorganized when he fires. So what it looks
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: like isn't always, truthfully what's happening inside of the player,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: which is why I like to get their perspective on
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: what are you working on?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What are you grinding on?
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: But I know what it looks like, and I have
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: had those thoughts too, But when you hear it from
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: his mouth, it makes you think, all right, JP's not
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: a forty home run guy a year. He's not Nelson
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Cruz up there. I don't think that's his intent, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I do know as a hit or how quickly you
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: can get out of whack and how uncomfortable it can
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: feel in a big league batter's block when you're competing
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: against plus plus arms.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So when something like last night happens and you get
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to be the hitting hero, does that get you from
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: out of whack? Are you now in whack?
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: The honest truth, Chucky, is that you are constantly fighting
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: that battle every single day. Yeah, it is a daily
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: battle of how sore is my body? Do I have
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: my legs underneath me? Am I able to execute my
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: routine and feel like my swing is in the right order?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: The sequence is the famous word, is my sequence in
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: the right order? And there are plenty of days through
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty two games where you can step
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: in the batting cage and go, I ain't got it today,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: But I still have to go out there and compete.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: And sometimes you have your best games doing that, and
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: sometimes you don't. But the one thing JP's always bron
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: is he gets on base. And the players that stick
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: around the major leagues are able to get on base
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: even when they're not hitting, because the game of baseball
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: is who can create the least amount of outs? Pee
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Rawford does a great job of that. And what's so
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: impressive is, yeah, he's batten two to eight, which isn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: blowing your socks off, but he's getting on base at
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: almost a three seventy clip.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: That's really impressive. That's well above leak average.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: So the value that JP's bring even when he's out
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: of whack is still high.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Ryan Healey with us yesterday, and yes, that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: did give us a different perspective. They did not, oh absolutely,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And that jped is bothered when people think he's swinging
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: for the.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Fences, especially for me, like for a non baseball mind,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: like just a baseball fan, but not someone who's ever
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: played baseball.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: That made it all different for me.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And yet you still look like you're swinging for the.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Fence, oh absolutely, singing out of his ass.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm buying it. And if your answer
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is I'm just getting out of whack, why are you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: getting out of whack so frequently? That was the one
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: question A professional baseball player don't get off whack being whack.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I agree, But I wondered if it maybe because he
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: is a little like gangly, and so maybe a lot
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: of guys are gangly.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I lot of guys are ganglier, and I don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: see them falling all over themselves in their helmet falling off. Yeah,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I still am questioning. It gives me a
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: new perspective, it does, It makes me think about it differently,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But I still am questioning a few things about it all,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and and my answer to it would be, I need
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you to be on better balance, then consistently on better balance,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: because if you're just saying you're getting out of whack
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: with your swing, I don't see anyone else in Major
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: League Baseball getting out of whack every time they're at plate.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: At the plate, it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Made me feel better about his mental approach to it,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: knowing that he's not going up there trying to do
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that and that he does.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Know who he is as a baseball player.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it made me nervous to think, I don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: understand how that's happening.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah all the time? Yeah, all right. Coming up next
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: on the radio program, we've never done this before. Maybe
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it sticks around as a new segment. We shall see,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: we will try for the first time. We're down with OPQ. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe mock them, I don't know, maybe admire them. I
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  Speaker 1: here and gossip and gab about OPQ.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about Kansas City's quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. Have
• 34:43
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• 34:47
  Speaker 1: actually very positive for Patrick Mahomes. He is like way
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. They're now starting to wonder if he's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: going to be like ready to start the season, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: it's led a few people to speculate like, was he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: ever really hurt? Did he want to get out of this?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Was he hurt as badly hurt as what you led on?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I mean he was hurt, yeah, But did you kind
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: of look at that as an opportunity like this is
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a lost season, let's not Maybe maybe we make it
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: sound a little worse than it really was, so people
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: are speculating about that. I think that's a little reckless.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: But whatever the case might be, it sounds like Patrick Mahomes.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was a thought he might miss the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: whole year, and now they're saying he might not miss
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: any of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Wow, that is surprising.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that he's going to be like ready by training camp.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: He's like ramping up to be ready for training camp,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: which seems impossible.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: It seems more than impossible.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Considering what he he the injury that he suffered a
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: year ago. So uh yeah. Kansas City is a team
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that obviously is coming off their worst year and memory
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and looking for a little bit of a bounce back.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes goes a long way towards the YEA goodness. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: so other people's quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers in the news. We
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: did talk about him at the end of the show yesterday.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: This Arizona Cardinals stuff is just not going to go
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: away until Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers reach an agreement.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals right now have Jacoby Brissett, Gardner Minshew, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: they drafted Carson Beck obviously not the ideal quarterback room
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that you're looking for. You could argue that Aaron Rodgers
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: is better than any of those three guys. I mean
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: not only argue it, Aaron Rodgers is better than any
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of those three guys, but they also are supposedly in
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a rebuild. And yet it wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers, I don't know if he's motivated by money,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: because it sounds like it's not about trying to get
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in better negotiation position with the Steelers. It's not about money.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's motivated by legacy. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's motivated. I don't think what's motivating
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: him is the better team. I think what motivates Aaron
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is to be treated like he's the best. Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's motivating. Yeah, but you've got to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: show Aaron Rodgers how badly you want him in order
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: for him to be excited about joining. So even though
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals don't look like they could win a Super
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Bowl for I mean, they're years away from being able
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. They don't have a great history.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He's got an oc down there, which is one of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: his best friends. He's got a Lafloor that is now
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: a head coach, and he has a personal relationship with him.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And if he thinks the organization if they're gonna sprinkle
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: rose petals at his feet and treat him like a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: god like they did with the Jets, as we saw
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, I think that's what Aaron Rodgers likes.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So maybe it won't have anything to do. It's not
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: like the Steelers are knocking on the door of a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: super Bowl championship either. It's a better team. They could
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: very easily make the playoffs. But I'm not sure that's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: what motivates Aaron Rodgers. I think Aaron Rodgers wants to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: feel wanted, and that's what motivates Oh.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Absolutely he wants. And he acts like he doesn't want
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: the spotlight. He acts like he doesn't want people talking
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: about him. But that is what he thrives on, is
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: people talking about him and finding ways that he thinks
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: he can be undercover, forcing people to talk about him
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: without asking people to talk about him.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, maybe we've solved it. Maybe that's what it
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: is there we go. I wouldn't be surprised if his
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: signs of the Arizona Cardinals would, or.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: At least it will force Pittsburgh to call him up
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and be like, okay, man.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Look we really want we want you. Either way, he wins.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Uh. Finally, in this first ever episode of OPQ, other
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: People's Quarterbacks the Atlanta Falcons. I don't know how people
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: are reading into an Atlanta Matt Ryan, I believe was
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: talking about Michael Pennix recovering from injury, but he was
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: quoted and people are running with it about, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we have in quarterback at quarterback
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and Michael Pennick's junior, he doesn't know what to expect
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: was the exact quote, and I think he was talking
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: about from an injury standpoint. But when you're a brand
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: new executive with a brand new head coach who is
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach, you move from a defensive
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: guy to an offensive guy finally, And Falcon fans everywhere
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: were like, Okay, finally we have an offensive guy that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: with the John Robinson and Kyle Pitts and Drake lenn All,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the draft capitol and Michael Pennix that we've spent on
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: offense and we've had this defensive minded head coach, finally
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we have an offensive guy. So now we're going to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: go in And then they went out and signed Toua
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: in the offseason, and now you do have to wonder
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: what how loaded that statement is. Is Matt Ryan really
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just talking about we don't know what to expect with
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: his injury and when he's going to be one hundred
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: percent or is he going beyond that? Is he saying
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we don't know what to expect, Like Tua might actually
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: be our starting quarterback heading into this year, which certainly
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: would derail Michael Penick Junior and his career. If there
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: actually is a quarterback competition and you didn't just sign
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Tua to be his backup. It kind of sounds like
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: there's an open competition right there.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Well, and that on its own there makes me worried
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: for Atlanta in general, because I don't know that you
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: could have a lot of high hopes in Tua, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: so if Tua beats out Penix, then there goes your
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: high hopes for Penix. If because I don't think there's
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: a world in which Tua should beat out Penix.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would think that I brought in
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: an offensive, cord minded head coach to unlock Michael Pennock
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Junior with all the weapons that are around. But it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: kind of sounding like he's at least in an even
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: competition with Tongue II Looa heading into training. All right,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: we do have more talk with Mike Benton coming up
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in nine point thirty. We'll get his thoughts on the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Kraken and their most recent development. Also on the other
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: side I mentioned this is the beginning of the show.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: This is my favorite topic of the day. Framber Valdez,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: who's kind of being painted as the villain of Major
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: League Baseball after last night's near brawl between the Tigers
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and the Boston Red Sox. If you haven't heard about it,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: very interesting story to tell you, and if you've already
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: formed your opinion, I might have some information that could
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: change your mind. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM