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Collecting the Stories · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Greg Nicotero from The Walking Dead. This
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  Speaker 1: is Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: But why can't I play with my puppy?
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  Speaker 4: Shut up, you know why.
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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Brian and I'm coming to you live via digital
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  Speaker 7: recording from Wonderfest. And once again this year, our adopted
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  Speaker 7: cast member, Mr. Eric Chu, is with us.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you keep bothering me every single year?
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  Speaker 6: You keep asking me. You're like, when can I be
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  Speaker 6: on the show? When can I be on the show?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm like, damn it, Eric. Fine. We'll find time. Whatever.
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  Speaker 7: So luckily this year, you've brought someone with you. So
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  Speaker 7: maybe he'll be actually entertaining. So please introduce your partner
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  Speaker 7: in crime here.
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  Speaker 1: If you've ever seen shows like Thunderbirds, Space 1999. Supercar,
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  Speaker 1: Fireball XL5. These were all shows that were produced by
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Anderson. And today we have Jamie Anderson, his son.
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  Speaker 8: Hello. Thanks for the delightful introduction, Eric.
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  Speaker 6: Do I have a job?
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  Speaker 8: I'm okay for now, thanks.
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  Speaker 6: He mentioned this.
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  Speaker 7: I know this deal you guys are working on has
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  Speaker 7: been sort of in the hopper for a while now. So, uh,
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  Speaker 7: I guess this process has probably been going on most
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  Speaker 7: of your life, I guess. At what point, uh, did
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  Speaker 7: you sort of realize other than obviously he's your father,
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  Speaker 7: but like when you started to realize he was kind
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  Speaker 7: of a bigger deal or at least in certain circles,
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  Speaker 7: he had a bigger impact on people growing up.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, I was a Doctor Who fan to start with,
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  Speaker 9: like classic Doctor Who. I was that weird kind of
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  Speaker 9: three-year-old who was obsessed with Daleks and Cybermen.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of those. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: He hated that, though. And he found it very embarrassing
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  Speaker 9: that his son was a Doctor Who fan. But I
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  Speaker 9: guess in the early 90s, the BBC in the UK
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  Speaker 9: re-showed Thunderbirds, and it got massive audiences.
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  Speaker 8: It was hugely successful.
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  Speaker 10: Wow.
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  Speaker 9: And suddenly my school friends were bringing in like annuals
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  Speaker 9: and merchandise from the 60s to have me take home
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  Speaker 9: and get signed for them.
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  Speaker 8: It was a weird experience.
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  Speaker 9: So, yeah, then I realized that there was a multi-generational impact.
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  Speaker 7: I guess just realizing that was his job and then
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  Speaker 7: suddenly everybody else knew what he did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know.
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  Speaker 8: When he was at home, he was just my dad, really.
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  Speaker 9: So it was weird realizing that other people cared about
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  Speaker 9: what he did as well.
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  Speaker 6: You were just like, he's just my dorky dad. Leave
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  Speaker 6: me alone. I tolerate him. Sure, he's my dad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 9: He's embarrassing, but I suppose his stuff's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you were embarrassed by your dad? Same as me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed by you too, Eric.
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  Speaker 7: And then it turns around. Now I think mine's embarrassed
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  Speaker 7: by me. It all comes full circle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So I guess at what point did you find yourself
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  Speaker 7: becoming interested in this sort of thing? Or did you
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  Speaker 7: start in a different area of the arts and sort
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  Speaker 7: of edge your way into it?
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  Speaker 8: Is there any kind of rating on this recording?
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  Speaker 6: NC-17.
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  Speaker 7: We make up new words at this point, so feel
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  Speaker 7: free to curse as much as possible.
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  Speaker 9: No, no, there's no cursing. It's more the content of
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  Speaker 9: what I'm going to say. So I wanted to work
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  Speaker 9: in the industry from being a tiny kid. As soon
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  Speaker 9: as I started going to the studios and seeing the
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  Speaker 9: models and, you know, I watched a 90s show called
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  Speaker 9: Space Precinct being shot, Dad made at Pinewood Studios, and
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  Speaker 9: that was an amazing experience, very exciting for a 10-year-old kid.
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  Speaker 8: But he had a bit.
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  Speaker 9: Of a rough time in the industry, and he decided
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  Speaker 9: that he didn't want to have his son following in
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  Speaker 9: his footsteps. So he did all he could to put
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  Speaker 9: me off going into the industry.
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  Speaker 8: But here I am.
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  Speaker 9: But in the meantime, I had an interesting few years
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  Speaker 9: collecting semen from horses.
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  Speaker 8: I wish I was joking.
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  Speaker 10: What?
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  Speaker 6: Did you not know this?
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 6: See, this is when the good stories come out.
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  Speaker 1: When we first met, you should have started with that.
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  Speaker 6: For him, knowing the way his mind works, he would
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  Speaker 6: have been in. He's like, puppets, whatever. Tell me more
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  Speaker 6: about horse semen.
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  Speaker 9: I have like 5 million views on YouTube for my
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  Speaker 9: semen collecting videos.
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  Speaker 8: Anyway, less of that.
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  Speaker 6: You have another career in the works right now.
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  Speaker 1: Did your dad get you into that.
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  Speaker 9: No, he wanted me to do something that was, you know,
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  Speaker 9: as far removed from the entertainment industry as possible.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so, okay. So this is why you got into
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  Speaker 1: horse semen. So you started doing that and your father went, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you go into the film business.
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  Speaker 9: I think maybe that was a subconscious thing. I wanted
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  Speaker 9: him to say, you can't do this.
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  Speaker 6: This is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 8: But no, he was really proud that I was.
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  Speaker 1: A horse jacker. You jerked off horses.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, now all this time later, you've come full circle
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  Speaker 7: to Kentucky. We're glad that you're here in horse country.
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead and bring in the horses, guys. It's all
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  Speaker 7: come around again.
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  Speaker 9: I need to fund my flight home somehow, so anybody
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  Speaker 9: who needs services, just.
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  Speaker 6: Just horse prostitution.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I meant horse owners.
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  Speaker 6: Really, Eric.
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  Speaker 7: Well, now we're back to how Hollywood really works.
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  Speaker 6: It has come full circle here.
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  Speaker 1: No wonder we were able to find funding so easily.
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  Speaker 6: Skilled is what we're learning. Many, many things. So, I guess,
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  Speaker 6: aside from... I don't even know how to leave that area,
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  Speaker 6: so we just will.
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  Speaker 8: Let's neatly segue into something different.
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  Speaker 6: Escape is how we'll put it.
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  Speaker 7: But was there a different area as far as, like,
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  Speaker 7: were you just going to get into standard... filmmaking or
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  Speaker 7: just the art end of it?
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  Speaker 6: Or how are you going to approach it originally?
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  Speaker 9: I think I spent a lot of time sat in
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  Speaker 9: the model shop and the creature workshop on Space Precinct
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  Speaker 9: where they were doing animatronics.
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  Speaker 8: Lots of kind of alien sculpting and painting.
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  Speaker 9: And I worked with a really talented guy called Richard
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  Speaker 9: Gregory who did a show later on called Walking with
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  Speaker 9: Dinosaurs which was really successful all over the world in
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  Speaker 9: the mid-90s. And so I kind of had an interest there.
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  Speaker 9: But then someone gave me a crayon mask, one of
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  Speaker 9: the aliens in Space Precinct, to paint. And I was
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  Speaker 9: no good at it, basically. I had a picture in
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  Speaker 9: my head of how good it should be, and translating
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  Speaker 9: that to my hand and into physical reality wasn't going
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  Speaker 9: to happen.
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  Speaker 8: So I had to go somewhere else with it.
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  Speaker 7: So how long was the fight before puppets came into play?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Did you even, I mean, was it one of those
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  Speaker 7: you wanted to go into that or it just seemed
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  Speaker 7: like it was something that would work better or you
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  Speaker 7: were sort of drawn to it?
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  Speaker 6: I guess what was the way that you got into
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  Speaker 6: the puppet part of it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I guess there's lots of factors. You know, everybody in
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  Speaker 9: the UK fondly remembers Thunderbirds. Thunderbirds isn't the most successful
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  Speaker 9: show over here, but at home, you know, everybody knows
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  Speaker 9: the music.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows the puppets.
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  Speaker 9: They all do these stupid puppet walks when they know
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  Speaker 9: they find out the connection between me and Thunderbirds. But
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  Speaker 9: there's something really, really engaging. And we started going to
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  Speaker 9: shows to conventions like this and we take puppets with
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  Speaker 9: us and grownups would wander along, see the puppet and
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  Speaker 9: then turn into a massive child, like a gibbering wreck
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  Speaker 9: because they met their hero. And equally their kids would
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  Speaker 9: come around and you know, the geek dads are going
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  Speaker 9: around saying, Oh my God, this Eagle.
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  Speaker 8: I remember this Eagle. They were so cool.
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  Speaker 9: And the kids are bored and they're yawning. I'm not
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  Speaker 9: saying that's right, but the geek dads are boring them.
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  Speaker 9: But then they get to the puppets, and the kids
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  Speaker 9: that have never seen these shows before suddenly point and
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  Speaker 9: stare at the puppets, and they're really excited by them.
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  Speaker 9: So there's obviously something there. And it has no kind
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  Speaker 9: of new puppet stuff. Well, nothing that takes the puppets
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  Speaker 9: seriously has been done in the last 20 years or so, really.
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  Speaker 6: It's kind of true, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I'm trying to circle around Team America.
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  Speaker 1: No, but there have been other parodies and whatever that
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  Speaker 1: have made fun of.
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  Speaker 6: But even those were done with love. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 6: a mean spiritual tribute, but it's a tribute nonetheless. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 9: But it kind of makes the puppets' figures of fun,
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  Speaker 9: and you lose that... I was saying yesterday, the magical
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  Speaker 9: thing is when you go from having a doll, basically,
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  Speaker 9: that is suddenly given life and consciousness by a puppeteer,
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  Speaker 9: and you get that thing of initially watching, going, this
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  Speaker 9: is a puppet, this is a puppet, and then suddenly.
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  Speaker 8: you care about it.
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  Speaker 6: It's a character.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it becomes a character.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 9: So that transition, which you don't get in a parody,
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  Speaker 9: is something I think is really important and something we
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  Speaker 9: wanted to play around with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it is one of those things that sometimes
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  Speaker 7: it's so much harder to win back that seriousness once
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  Speaker 7: you've crossed the line into parody. It's one of those
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  Speaker 7: that I always said was kind of like with all
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  Speaker 7: those horror movies after a while, when they got to
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  Speaker 7: the point you can't take the scream character serious anymore
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  Speaker 7: when the scary movie has beat the seriousness out of
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  Speaker 7: it and now it's just that silly thing that you
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  Speaker 7: saw in the parody movies so it's like it is
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  Speaker 7: sort of like it takes a long time to sort
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  Speaker 7: of build up that respectability again so yeah so then
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  Speaker 7: I guess moving into it full on what was it
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  Speaker 7: you guys are trying to do now that I know
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  Speaker 7: you've you kind of had some test footage that you
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  Speaker 7: did here this weekend and It seems like it's coming together.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was received pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we've actually said what the project is.
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  Speaker 6: There we go. Let's throw that out. Mysterious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so after so many years, we are doing another
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  Speaker 1: puppet show. This time we're using a few more up-to-date techniques,
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  Speaker 1: and we're trying to bring back, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: maybe less... concentrate on the kind of CG-oriented shows that
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  Speaker 1: are out there these days for kids and bring back
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  Speaker 1: physical puppets, physical miniatures, sets, explosions. Because I've always thought
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  Speaker 1: that growing up watching something like Thunderbirds or Captain Scarlet,
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of like watching toys move. And I
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  Speaker 1: was fascinated by that. I never... had any, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I never believed that these were real people walking around.
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  Speaker 1: I always knew they were puppets, but I always had
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  Speaker 1: this sort of charm about it as a kid to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, toys that I could conceivably have in my
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  Speaker 1: room move around on their own and walk and talk.
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  Speaker 7: It is a different connection, I think, that kids have
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  Speaker 7: with anything that's puppets or stop motion. It's physical enough that, like,
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  Speaker 7: you realize it's something... Something, at that point, probably magical
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  Speaker 7: is making it work.
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  Speaker 1: And we're not trying to hide the fact that it's puppets.
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  Speaker 1: There are other shows that have used the same techniques,
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  Speaker 1: but they're trying to replicate reality, and they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: blur that line so that when you look at an
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  Speaker 1: animatronic figure in a movie, they're trying to replicate reality
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  Speaker 1: so that you're not able to tell the difference. But
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  Speaker 1: in this case, we are making a puppet film. When
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  Speaker 1: you look at it, it is a puppet. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's something that not a lot of studios would
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in. Everybody's go-to technique is CG.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the market is flooded with CG. We
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  Speaker 1: don't need another CG show. And I think that just
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  Speaker 1: screening the test footage that Jamie brought with us, I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people have, they're able to connect
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  Speaker 1: with the pubs. They're, they're, they're all, um, enamored with it,
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  Speaker 1: excited by it. And I, I think part of the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the reason is, is it is something that people have
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  Speaker 1: not seen in a while, you know, team America was
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  Speaker 1: probably the last, but how many years ago was that?
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  Speaker 6: That's been a long time now.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He's moved on to Broadway now. He's got other things
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  Speaker 6: to lamp.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, uh, you know, the, the,
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  Speaker 1: the way, um, you know, this show looks, uh, there
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  Speaker 1: is no other show like it, especially not on TV,
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  Speaker 1: not for kids. And I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are going to... If nothing else, we're going to stand
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  Speaker 1: out from the rest.
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  Speaker 6: Of the crowd. So, I don't know. Do you have.
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  Speaker 7: anything as far as where you are in the process,
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  Speaker 7: or is there anything to tell people to look for yet?
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  Speaker 7: Or you were working on a Kickstarter kind of thing?
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  Speaker 9: We did a Kickstarter, and if you didn't back it,
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  Speaker 9: then you suck, so thanks.
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  Speaker 6: I keep telling them that. You guys suck.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you do. You suck.
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  Speaker 1: You, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 9: It's a long process because of the parody aspect. Dad
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  Speaker 9: always said in the 50s when he started with puppets
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  Speaker 9: that he was set out to make the puppet film respectable.
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  Speaker 9: And we're basically doing the same again. We're trying to
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  Speaker 9: kind of bring that respectability back. So these puppets are.
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  Speaker 1: Much more advanced.
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  Speaker 9: The initial building phase and research and development to get
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  Speaker 9: them to where they are now, which is kind of
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  Speaker 9: almost ready for the first puppet to be fully constructed,
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  Speaker 9: ready for on-screen stuff, that's taken like nine months. But
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  Speaker 9: the result that we showed yesterday, which is the first
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  Speaker 9: movement test, got a pretty good reception.
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  Speaker 1: It was sort of a proof of concept and I
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  Speaker 1: think we convinced everybody that yes, this could work. It's
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  Speaker 1: something that well, it surprised us too. It surprised us
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  Speaker 1: how enthusiastic everybody was after they saw that. You could
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  Speaker 1: kind of tell beforehand before we came to the convention
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks on people's heads and
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  Speaker 1: they don't know what what it is, how it's going
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  Speaker 1: to end up looking. Because everything in their minds beforehand
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  Speaker 1: were these marionettes, which are very, very hard to control.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got floaty arms, floaty legs. But we're using
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  Speaker 1: a different technique now that is much easier to control.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it has a very unique look about it.
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  Speaker 1: It is a different technique than Team America. So you
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  Speaker 1: don't have those... scenes that they parodied you couldn't control
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  Speaker 1: them so they took advantage of that and made it
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  Speaker 1: funny but we're not going that route we're using a
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  Speaker 1: different technique and I think hopefully using this technique we'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to forget, it'll help people forget that they're
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  Speaker 1: puppets and concentrate on the characters and the.
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  Speaker 7: Drama Different type of puppetry but I was going to
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  Speaker 7: ask both of you what your thoughts were on the
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  Speaker 7: return of the Muppets and this new attempting to bring
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  Speaker 7: back the Hinson legacy. I mean, that's a very different style,
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  Speaker 7: but it's, it's sort of putting its foot in the
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  Speaker 7: door the same way you guys are in just a
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  Speaker 7: different town.
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  Speaker 9: It's, I mean, yeah, different style, different kind of charm. Uh,
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  Speaker 9: dad was a, uh, a friend of Jim's and they
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  Speaker 9: were going to work together.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he spent so much time in England.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: But dad, dad had a great deal of respect for,
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  Speaker 9: for what Jim did. And I, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 9: lot of, a lot of generations that have been entertained
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  Speaker 9: by it. So in the same way that I think
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  Speaker 9: it's important, we bring back kind of Anderson techniques with a,
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  Speaker 9: with an added twist, kind of Thunderbirds plus. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: think it's totally valid and should be done to bring
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  Speaker 9: back the Henson style.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely. I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Usually we just try to throw out some general taste
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  Speaker 7: in movies as well.
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  Speaker 6: What is it? Have you watched anything lately? I know
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  Speaker 6: you can't watch anything, Eric. You have a child now.
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  Speaker 6: You're not allowed to watch movies anymore.
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  Speaker 9: You've got no life because you're a kid, and I've
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  Speaker 9: got no life because of puppets. Yours is way more
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  Speaker 9: justified than mine.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm in the same boat as you.
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  Speaker 7: I told you last year I was working on mine,
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  Speaker 7: so I'm working on my puppet film as well. He
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  Speaker 7: doubted me, but it's just going to end up on
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  Speaker 7: YouTube like everything else in the world. I'm working on it.
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  Speaker 7: I've turned my living room into a miniature set. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: really sad when other people come over, so I feel
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: for you. I can't explain it to people. I'm like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: just don't touch that. It's supposed to look like.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: A miniature room. Never mind, don't touch that. So I
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: feel for you. But assuming you've broken away.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: Every once in a while, have you watched any movies
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: lately or any kind of stuff that you're into?
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: This is terrible to say, but I think the last
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: movie that I watched in the cinema was The Imitation Game.
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: That's ages ago. That's how little free.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Time I've had.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: At least in the last year.
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I enjoyed that. I'd love it
• 18:09
  Speaker 9: for Benedict Cumberbatch to do a voice for us. His mom,
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: Wanda Venton, was in UFO, Dad's 1969-70 show.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Is she still around?
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: She is, weirdly.
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: I went to our local pub a few months ago
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: and spotted Benedict having lunch with his mum Wanda and
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: his dad in the pub and I went over to
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: say hi and I think Benedict was preparing for me
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: to be like a fanboy and go, oh, Mr.
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: Go-Match.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: But instead, I went straight for his mum.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: You were like, move it, buddy. Yeah, he looked a
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: bit disappointed. But actually, I have to say, he was really,
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: really awesome, really lovely guy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what I've heard.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: When he figured out who you were, you mean? Yeah, yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: Well, because really, just before I'd approached, they'd have been
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: talking about UFO. So it was just kind of oddly serendipitous.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, everything I've heard with him, he's not only kind
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: of nice, but really does seem to have that geek vibe.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Core or two in there like he really is interested
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: in the kind.
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: Of stuff I think when somebody who is such a
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: massive celebrity comes up and introduces themselves and says oh
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: hello nice to meet you I'm Benedict yeah I'm like
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: no I know you're Benedict come on but that just
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: shows what a decent guy he is Benedict you.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: Know come oh no Doctor Strange who are you but
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: yeah so I don't know Eric I know you haven't
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: seen anything in ages but um.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: No not really Did you say Avengers? No, I did
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: go see Mad Max. I had to see that because
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that's the... I think of all the films that are
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: coming out this year, that was the one that excited
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: me the most. I mean, I've been waiting for, I've
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: been following the production ever since they started, I don't
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: know how many years ago now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: 10 at least.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Actually, no, it was before that because they were supposed
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: to shoot it with Mel.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: Before 9-11 happened yes and that that's what he said
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: he said that was the dividing point I think it
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: was Greenlit at that point yeah it was it was
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: supposed to be going into production and like then the
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: whole system kind of fell apart nobody wanted to back
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: anything anymore and like everybody pulled out and then he
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: just went in the it went on the back burner
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: for years and yeah so it's been a.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Long time so yeah I did go see that I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and I quite enjoyed it but you know it's I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: still prefer the Road Warrior yeah you know I think
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that's That's a high mark that will probably never be surpassed. But, no,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Fury Road was an incredible.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Achievement.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, it seems like it's him with more focus now. Like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: he's very....
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Just technically, like, he seems so into what he was
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: trying to do. And where Road Warrior is more of just, like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: he's telling the story, and it seems like he's more
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: on the character.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: This one, it's like.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: we don't, we know who the character is, but we
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: can focus on like this amazing car flip.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: And like the fact that so much of that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Was practical, like he added in a little CG, but
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: like they blew up a lot of cars, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: it's like, it's, it's a different thing when he's, he's
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: that dedicated to physically doing stunts still.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: That's, that's amazing. Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: No, I, I, I thought it was an incredible achievement. Um, uh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: whether or not it was a better film, uh, I,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I gravitate towards, uh, the road warrior just because I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you know I identified with the character more and I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: think the story was a little bit more apparent but
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and I think the sense I got from road warrior
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: is that it was a little bit more mythic also
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you know whereas in this version Tom Hardy just kind
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of seems to be along for the ride he did
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to be fair he did a wonderful job but yeah
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean he's a little bit secondary to the whole
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: story But I think part of that may be because
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they used a slightly different approach in filmmaking in that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: they actually... I just heard about this, but I can't...
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: But they didn't use a script, as far as I know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: As far as I know, they storyboarded the whole thing
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and it's essentially just a visual....
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: It's not super dialogue heavy.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: No, it isn't.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Max has like ten lines.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: But when you don't have a script and you're doing
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: everything by storyboard, I think perhaps the actors are.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It's easy for them to kind of get lost as
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to where they are in the story and what the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: characters are... How they're supposed to be feeling at any
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: one moment.
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: But.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But, no, it was– I enjoyed it. I'm glad they
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: made it. I'm interested to see if they'll make any
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: more after this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: At this point, I mean, it's got such good response.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: I feel like he's probably going to want to just
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: because he likes that world that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: He's created anyway.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's, what, 70 years old?
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know why he took the huge break that
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: he did.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know even that, but, I mean– He
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: just stayed away from that type of movie.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: He was making kids' movies.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: He's making Babe and Pig in the City, which is
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: still amazing. It's funny how much visual style he had
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: even in doing these kids' movies.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's impressive that here's a director who hasn't been pigeonholed
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: into any one genre, really. It's amazing that after doing
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Babe and after doing Happy Feet, the studios allowed him
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to make a balls-out, violent car chase movie.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which is what it is. One big car chase movie.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: All right. Well, I guess to wrap up, what should.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: They look for?
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: What do you want to tell people to keep an
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: eye out for in the distant future, maybe?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Not distant.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: No, no, no. Semi-near future?
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: Pilot episode for Firestorm should be done by the end
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: of this year.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: Best place is jerryanderson.co.uk.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: Jerry with a G, not a J, because I did
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: hear somebody yesterday say, oh, that's Gary Anderson's son.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: No, it's a soft G.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: He's spelling here.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: That's the best thing.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: All right. Well, we will tell people to look out
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: for him and can't wait until they come out.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Support us and follow the production and Send donations. Tell
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: people about it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, get your checkbooks.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Out, please.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just randomly send donations.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's it. I mean, this is an
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: independent production. We're trying to do it on our own.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: It's been a difficult time to try to sell or
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: get people excited about it in this sort of CG-centric world.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But I think now that we've got a way to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: prove what it's going to look like and that this
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: can work, And work very well. You know, I think
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that maybe if we can get more of the word
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: out there, we'll get more support. And, you know, let's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, in general, we should try
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to support, you know, independent films and independent filmmakers and not.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Just everything, Avengers and Iron Man and Captain America.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: We're losing that middle ground at this point.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: It's all tentpole release, and then everything else is falling
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: to the independent scene now.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: To be honest, I still watch those.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do too.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: But you know what? There are a lot of talented
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: people out there, and the lower budgets that you have,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the more interesting films you'll get because you don't have
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: so many... people on the board telling you to change
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: this so if you're watching these big films and you're
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: saying well this is nothing new or this is kind
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of bland start supporting independent films because this is where
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you have the filmmakers who want to take chances and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I think we're starting to see more of them they're
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: kind of disappearing now And I don't want it to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: be like an endangered species. I think, you know, if
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you can support those filmmakers on Kickstarter or, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: any other, you know, what do you call it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Indiegogo.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Crowdfunding, yeah. You know, if you see a project out
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: there that you like, help out the filmmakers. Because, you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the big sealers are not going to do these kinds
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of films.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: Well, and that's what we've always tried to do, too.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: It's like, I feel like The Avengers doesn't need my help.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: I'll talk about it all day. I'm still a fan
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: of all those kinds of movies. But it's like, that
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Need to do anything more.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: But I can find independent filmmakers and actors that are
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: working in independent film and actually be like, talk about
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: your movie.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Promote it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: Anything we can do just to get good word of
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: mouth going is a big help in this world we
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: live in now.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: It's like word of mouth makes a big difference.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: And those projects where there are constraints, whether they're financial
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: or physical, like real world physics being a constraint, leads
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: to ingenuity and really cool effects, really cool kind of methods.
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: In the same way, financial constraints force people to find
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: new ways to do it and make kind of new stuff.
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: It's not the same kind of bland, samey stuff that
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: you see everywhere else. You have to move away from
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: the formula so you get something more exciting.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I have this one experience. I worked with a filmmaker
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in Hong Kong that is, I guess, the George Lucas
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of Hong Kong, if you want to put it that way.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: But Early in his career, same as George, early in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: his career, he was making low-budget films. And they were exciting.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: They were inventive. They were very creative. But as soon
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: as he started to become popular and the budgets grew
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, he got lazy. And the films were
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: nowhere near as creative as they were before. So, yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the lower budget films are where you're going to find
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the creative people, I think, these days.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, touch back to years ago when we sat down,
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: the Tim Burton thing. I mean, you look back, his
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: early work is so impressive. Later, they're handing him tons
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: of money. It becomes CG filled. And like, I don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: know how people are not bored. He's sort of coming
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: back around these last few, but like that whole Alice
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: in Wonderland run there.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: I'm just like, it just, it's CG effects nonstop.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: And like, I feel like he's barely involved in the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: process anymore, whereas when he starts, it's like he's knee-deep
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: in it. He's figuring out how to work around these
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: budget constraints and how do I make a Beetlejuice out
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: of no money.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And he is doing Beetlejuice 2, apparently.
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Support Beetlejuice 2 because he needs the money.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: He came back around. That Frankenweenie was good. I was surprised.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: I like Frankenweenie.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: So he's still got potential. He can still turn it around.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: I have faith in him. I'm trying to be positive.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: I'm trying not to bash all of his movies.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: But, yeah, so it's like, you know, I think it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: all that stuff. I think you're usually a little.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: When you're hungry and you're starting out, you're a little desperate,
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: but at the same time, it makes you more creative.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: So it's really good to see people make use of that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, you can't fix things with, you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: special effects, so you have to figure out a way
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: around it. And I think nine times out of ten,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's a more interesting way.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: It usually is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: So we're all for supporting independent projects, and we're glad
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: to support you guys. So thank you for coming on, and, yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: we'll do whatever we can to spread the word.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: Thank you very much.
• 29:26
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  Speaker 7: Going to sit down and talk with Marta Christian, which
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  Speaker 6: So we'll talk a little about that. But I also
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  Speaker 10: How could I know? How could I know? That I'll
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  Speaker 6: Your journey... took a couple of different turns along the way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: So I guess, how did you originally get to America
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: and then how you ended up in Los Angeles?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I was adopted when I was five years old
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: from Norway. And I think what I probably did in
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: the orphanage, I vaguely remember entertaining and singing and dancing. And,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: you know, when you're a kid, it's a way to
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: get attention and, you know, people go, oh, isn't that cute?
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: And we just, oh, she's so adorable. And so when
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: I was adopted... My parents tell me that I walked
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: off the plane like Charlie Chaplin. I must have seen
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: a few of those films. And they knew. They said, ah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: an actress. An actress we can see in formation. And
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: so I continued to take dance and singing. And I
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: was acting as a child in theater. And then when
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: we came out to California... my dad to write a
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: book on philosophy of education, a sabbatical from Wayne State
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: in Detroit. Jimmy Harris, the producer of Lolita, came up
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: to me in a restaurant and said, are you interested
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: in acting? And I said, I've never been interested in
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: anything else, which was the truth. And so he, of course,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't do Lolita. My parents said no. But he
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: got me an agent. And he saw that a promise
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: is a certain promise. And so I started acting when
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: I was 16.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Were they considering you for the film version of Loli?
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about, yeah. And it was such
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: a wonderful film. But, you know, my path went in
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: a different direction, and that was okay, because it turned
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: out to be a wonderful path. I mean, here I am.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I'm still at it. I'm still doing it, and.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: And Lost in Space is iconic, and we have fans
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: all over the world. I don't think if I did Lolita,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: it would be a different kind of fan base, for sure.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: And I probably would have done different kinds of films,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: but I've continued to do theater. I've done a lot
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: of commercials, so... But I started a theater company, and,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: you know, so I've always done what I've wanted to do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: I've always loved acting, and I paint, and I'm creative
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: in other ways, too. So I think you're creative in
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: one area, you tend to be creative in others.
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot of crossover. Well, and then you
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: mentioned doing other films. I was going to say, like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: starting off with Beach Blanket Bingo. That's... A different era
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: there and sort of a whole different scene that was
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: going on. So I guess how did you get involved
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: in that and then what was it like being in
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: that group at the time?
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Beach blanket bingo. You know, it's funny because I was
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: always a surfer. In fact, my first commercial I ever
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: did was, is it true blondes have more fun? And
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: I was on a surfboard with Mickey Dora, who was
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: a legend of surfing. And he fell off and I
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: stayed on. And everybody was applauding and I didn't understand
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: why until I realized when I landed that I stayed dry.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I think that's what they mainly wanted me to do.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: And they were very happy about it. But yeah, this genre,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: the beach party movie genre, it really was a period
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: piece of the 60s and I guess early 70s.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: No, mainly the 60s.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: And, yeah, there aren't any... It's funny, I'll see them
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: in a restaurant that has, you know, like a weird
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: surfing thing, and then all of a sudden there's Beach
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Blanket Bingo up there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: We have one here that I think I've seen them
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: play in.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: And it was exciting because, you know, I was outdoors.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: I've always loved being outdoors. And I was playing a mermaid.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: And the only weird part about it was that it
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: was in November. And the water was very, very cold.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: And I had practically nothing on. And of course, I
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: was a mermaid. And everyone on shore was saying, smile.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, the director is, smile, Martin, smile. And his megaphone. And,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm saying, I'm freezing, my you-know-what's. And here
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: I am, smiling. So I smiled, you know. But meanwhile,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: the surf was getting bigger and bigger. And the surge
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: was taking me. And then taking me in. And then
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: pulling me out. And taking me. And I was getting...
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: little afraid but there was a guy in a wetsuit
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: behind a big rock watching over me but he he
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: and i were the only ones out there everyone else
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: was smart but yeah it was uh it was a
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: fun you know again it was like lost in space
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: yeah you know it these these certain um uh period
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: pieces of the 60s become iconic after a while because
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: it's never been done again and and in in the way.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: That that we did them And then around that same time,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: you ended up in Lost in Space. At the time,
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: were you, again, trying to go between TV and film,
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: were you worried that that role would be too iconic?
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if it would have been
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: received that early on, and now it obviously has been,
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: but was it something at the time you were concerned that,
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: I want to go do something else after this, or
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: it would tie you down, you know, as far as
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: signing contracts or whatnot?
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I really didn't think about that. I probably should have. But, no, I...
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: A job's a job, you know. You get an acting
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: job and you do it. And as I said, I
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: continued to do theater throughout the whole time. So, you know,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: you work. As an actor, you work and you say, well,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: I'm lucky I'm working and I'll go do something else
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: next week. And I did do other very serious pieces.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: So it was a mixture of roles that... Yeah, so
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: I was able to show my skills in various ways.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Move on to Terminal Island.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Terminal Island, oh, my God.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, thanks.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: I like Terminal Island.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: Well, I was watching it going, it's funny how much
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: they gave credit for, like, now Hunger Games is huge.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: And, like, I was accrediting that to Battle Royale.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: But I'm like, Terminal Island's way ahead of all of
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: these for kind of doing that same idea.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: That seems like it would have been a really interesting
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: shoot or possibly dangerous.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: What was that like?
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: A bit of both, you know, because it was a
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: B-film and, you know, not a high-budget film. But it
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: gave a break to Tom Selleck. I mean, we, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Phyllis Davis. I mean, a group of us that we really,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: we actually were an ensemble. We had a wonderful time.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: We would sit in our trailers. Not separately, but we
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: would sit in a trailer.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: There was only one trailer.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one trailer. But we'd all laugh and
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: play music and sing and talk about acting. There was
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: a real camaraderie. The only thing that was dangerous were
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: the pellets that they put on you to be blown up.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I couldn't believe how many they were putting on me.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: I said, wait a minute. I said, do I need
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: this many? Oh, yeah, you have to be shot multiple
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: times or something. How dead do I need to be? Really?
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, one?
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Isn't one enough? But, yeah, it's a little scary when
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: you're doing a low budget and they're putting explosives on you.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: But I'm still here. I'm still here. And it was fun.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, acting, there's a lot of play.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it's like when you're a kid.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: You play, act. But it's real. And when you're older,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: you're sort of doing an older version of that. You know,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: you work a little harder because you work more on
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: character and on storyline and your arc and all of that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: But it's still inhabiting another person, another, you know, another
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: person that has a different human condition, and you just
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: have to get something. You realize, again, when you get older,
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: that you're pulling other things out of yourself in order
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: to become that character. That's why theater is so, it's
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: very different. It's as challenging as film, but you live
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: it within a two-hour period.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: You're forced to.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're forced to. And it's funny because always before
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: a play, before I go on, I get nauseous, right?
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: And I go, oh my God, why am I doing this?
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I'm so terrified. And I do a little Tai Chi
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: and calm down. And then I go out there and
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: everything gets lost. It all becomes another world for me.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: And that's exciting. It's just brilliant to be able to
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: You were talking about having it sort of tie to
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: your own life, and I was watching Gemini Affair, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this is almost a little like probably ten
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: years before or something, like a young girl coming and
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: trying to get into the industry. It's like how close
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: was that to what you had gone through yourself a
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: few years before?
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I never came to California to get
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: into the industry, but I think what I connected with
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: that character is the loneliness. because ultimately acting can be
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: very lonely because you do your job and then you
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: wait for another job and then you go on auditions
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: and then you wait for the call and that is just,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: it's gut-wrenching at times and you wonder, you second-guess yourself
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: all the time. You're saying, what did I do? If
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't get the job, what did I do wrong?
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: If I do get the job, how did I do that?
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Am I going to be able to redo it And,
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: you know, so that terror sort of sets in, and
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: then you have to just dismiss all of it and
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: just get, you know, and just stand up tall and
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: breathe and go forward. But I can't imagine doing anything
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: but acting. I mean, I paint. I love painting. That's
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: a very lonely, you know.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Solitary.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: It's not lonely as much as solitary. And time flies by,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: and you're hoping that eventually... you're going to put something
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: out that will communicate something. In acting, that's the main purpose.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: You want to communicate, and you're hoping that what you do,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: people will understand and see something of themselves in it
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: and learn something or be amused or be entertained. That's
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: what we're here for.
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: Do you have stuff you're working on now that you'd
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: like to tell people about?
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I do. I just finished a pilot called Ageless. It's
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: sort of the golden girls of this generation. It's very
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: broad comedy, which is so much fun. I'm working with
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: incredible women. Two women who play Lois and Shirley. We
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: all work in a beauty salon together. I'm an actress
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: who cannot quite believe that Her career is over. So
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: she sort of lives in this la-la land. But she's wonderful,
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: and I love her. That's another thing I find in
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: acting is that you, whether the character is good or bad,
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: you have to learn, you love them somehow. You love
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: their weakness, or you love their strength.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Even if they're bad, they don't know they're bad usually.
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: They're acting on what they feel is genuine.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: They're surviving, you know, in one way or another. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: we all have that dark side. Most of us are
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: able to push it away and learn how to cope
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: with it. But there are some people who just can't.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: And it's difficult in acting to connect with the dark
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: side of yourself and to live with it. I remember
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: my granddaughter being offered the bad seed in the play.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: And I said, no, I don't want her to do that.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: It's a really dark story.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: It's a really dark story. And, you know, she would
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: have done a wonderful job, but, you know, I just felt, no,
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I don't, you know, she's young, 10 years old. I
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: don't want her to be doing that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: Very impressionable to deal with that kind of darkness.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: So is that show signed to like a network or
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: are you still throwing the pilot out there now?
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pilot. It still has to be edited.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: It's so funny. It's written by two women. They wrote
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: it about three years ago and, you know, they finally
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: brought it out again and and got funding, and it's
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: so funny. It's a little bit like the Coen Brothers.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: It has that broad kind of guh, dope, you know,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: kind of sense of humor. And I was just watching
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: Brother Where Art Thou, and brilliant, brilliant. I just giggle
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: so much at the Coen Brothers films, and I, yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: I agree. They're so smart, and I appreciate that kind
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: of humor, and that's what this show has. So, ageless.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Look at, look at, I sing. I sing in it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: I love singing. I love singing and dancing. So I'm
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: able to do a little bit of everything in this show.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: Sounds good. So, yeah, I guess the best way to
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: keep up with you is your website?
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, martachristen.com. And ageless.com, I believe, is the... Yeah, it
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: would be ageless.com. Just look out for it. It'll be
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: either on the internet or it'll be on television. Yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: and it's smart and funny and, you know, as one
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: of the things I say when I'm hired as a manicurist.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: and she says, well, you got the job. I mean,
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: you got the part. And I say, it's showbiz.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: Always playing a part, even in our everyday lives.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you for talking with us today.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: It was my pleasure. Thank you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 14: All right, as we're rounding things out here, once again,
• 49:54
  Speaker 14: a huge thank you to the entire staff at Wonderfest.
• 49:56
  Speaker 14: We usually talk about what a different dynamic there is here,
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: but it's true. We've ended up in a lot of
• 50:02
  Speaker 14: different shows over the years, but Wonderfest is not only
• 50:04
  Speaker 14: amazingly well-run... But also a lot of the staff have
• 50:07
  Speaker 14: been on board for years. And in addition, a lot
• 50:10
  Speaker 14: of the vendors and even guests are on hand annually.
• 50:13
  Speaker 14: So it really does become more of a reunion. And
• 50:16
  Speaker 14: people hang out and relationships are built and jokes continue.
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: It really is an amazing tight-knit dynamic. And maybe that's
• 50:23
  Speaker 14: something you'd like to get involved with. If so, just
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: go to wonderfest.com and start planning your trip here next year.
• 50:28
  Speaker 14: It's a fun and very open group of people. So
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: come and be part of that experience. Again, that's wonderfest.com,
• 50:34
  Speaker 14: and get yourself here next year. All right, well, that
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: about does it this time around. Thank you once again
• 50:39
  Speaker 14: to Marta and Eric and Jamie. And speaking of Eric
• 50:42
  Speaker 14: and Jamie, I thought in honor of the most revealing
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: part of our discussion, we'd go out on this song.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: I never saw you before I.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Never spent spring.
• 51:30
  Speaker 15: Before Now I'm at your door And I hope you're
• 51:39
  Speaker 15: unusual Very.
• 51:41
  Speaker 14: Unusual Now.
• 51:44
  Speaker 15: I'm at your door.
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: And when you nicely ask.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: Me in I'm.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Staring at your shoes.
• 52:02
  Speaker 15: And I don't wonder why.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like a horse.
• 52:13
  Speaker 15: We can stray Out on the open rain Missing me every.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Day With its hidden claws Spring snow.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: And when you brush me.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: You brush me with your eyes.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I think you've noticed That I.
• 52:55
  Speaker 15: Don't wanna be a bad guy anymore I never saw
• 53:02
  Speaker 15: you before But you're unusual And now I'm at your door.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I feel safe and warm.
• 53:28
  Speaker 15: I feel like a horse.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: What's this?
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: Horse semen.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: Thank you, man.
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: You would have intended that already.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: No.
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: Shit, sorry.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: You sprung the horse semen on me. Oh, gross.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You start with that. You open with that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: Especially with you.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Hi.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I collect horse semen.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: Many people you would not want to say that with.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: But with Eric.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: You lead with that. Okay, that's not you, but.
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: No, but I'm doing that stuff.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Well, no, you're not actually handling them.
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm telling them what to do.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You're telling them what to do? Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: I think everybody's done. It's pretty quick.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: He was really excited. What do you want?
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Let me have a little snooze on there. Well, she's
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the one that did all the work.
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: I don't think there are any videos of me actually.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Handling the horse.
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: There's one of me here.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: It's got three and a half million views.
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: I don't look at them very often.
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: You need to monetize this thing.
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: A little pony this time.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, you've got to show him something.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: Maybe.
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: A little belly scratch to get him going. This is
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: a shy one, so it took him a while to.
• 55:05
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• 55:08
  Speaker 11: edited by The Oddity Studios, with the opening music performed
• 55:11
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• 55:13
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• 55:17
  Speaker 8: Talk hard!