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The Katt Williams Podcast Recap With Jarri Knows - #77 · The Grounded Show

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All right, we're back again. I think this is seventy seven, right,
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I put seventy seven on the title, not even checked. I just
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was seventy seven. But yeah, man, back again. The grounded show
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got a returning guest, probably the first returning guest, right. I don't
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think we had anybody. I think, yeah, I think this. Yeah,
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The Boy, Baby, the Boy. The first two times John Many,
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y'all. If y'all from the Central Florida, I mean I can't even
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say that anymore. I can't just say if you're from Central Florida because The
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Boy is worldwide now, but in fact, we're going to North Florida.
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Now, Baby, what's that place where it be? All the old people
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that catch at CDs? The villagers favorite guy? Hey man, he was.
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He was our first two part episode. Man, that episode just ended
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up just going. But Yo, you know what's funny thought. I didn't
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even think about this until right now, But always get on me on that
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episode. I don't drink, bro, you know what I'm saying. But
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when you pulled up, Remember we got the little bottle of the tequila we
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was drinking, and since we were just chopping it up and ship, I
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wasn't even paying attention. Bro, I'm just drinking, drinking, drinking.
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Dog. I literally had to have my wife helped me get to the room.
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Bro oh Man left Dog, I was fucking friedg with sauce. He
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goes, I mean he's a bathroom fleet right back. Yo. Me and
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q seeing for like twenty minutes, we was like, yo, come back.
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Yeah. I was like, I was like, Yo, I know
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we're done. I gotta go. I'll be right back. I want to
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say something still that. I don't even remember what the fuck I said,
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Dog, I just know I came back. And then when I fucking sat
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down here, I was like, oh my god, how am I gonna
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get up? Bro? But yeah, man Quincy actually had hit Jari up
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earlier in the day because we all did you get a chance to listen to
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the whole podcast Jarry the Cat Williams joint? All right? But Cat Cat
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Williams was on the Shannon Sharp podcast Club Shay Shay and I seen it in
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the morning, and everybody in the chat pretty much owns. I don't know
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if you know, Jarry, but Cat Williams my favorite comedian. You know
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what I'm saying? Like that's from the beginning. The first time I saw
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him, I was like, Bro, he's hilarious. I've seen him live,
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I've seen all his specials, catch him whenever he's on something else,
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and I always enjoy his work. And so, you know, and I
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like Shannon Sharp. I'm already subscribed to the podcast. So when I seen
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him right away, I'm like, Yo, Cat Williams is on the Shannon
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Sharp podcast. I sent it in my little group chat, Bro, that
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shit just started hot. Boy. That thing was right from the beginning where
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he's like, Yo, I don't really be going on these shows. You
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know, I don't need to promote nothing. I just only you know,
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talk to people I fuck with when I got something to say, Dog,
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that just set the whole tone for that old thing. Man. That was
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That was crazy, bro. And even in like our little group chat with
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like the people we play Call of Duty with that they're not even really tapped
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into like current stuff like that. They checked it out and they was real
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into it. They listened to the whole thing. They was talking about it
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all day. I didn't think it would kind of like take off the way
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it did as far as like so many people checking it out but talking real
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spicy. You know what. I don't think there's one chat that hasn't brought
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it up. Yeah, Facts, Yeah they haven't. It hasn't been like
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something like that in a while. I feel like I can't even think off
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the top of my head when was the last like kind of like interview or
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whatever, like, because there's always stuff like, for example, even like
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when Shannon Sharp was on Stephen Ay's show the first time after the whole thing
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happened at Fox and stuff, not everybody cared. Only people that really was
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into sports and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying. So like
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that was like this was like the first one that I could think of that
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everybody was kind of tuned into, you know what I mean. I also
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feel like if it was anybody else, people probably wouldn't have even tapped in
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the way they tapped in. But we know that like Williams doesn't talk much,
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you know what I'm saying. It's one of those people that just like
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when he does talk, you listen, you know. Yeah, facts,
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And I want to throw it to Jarry because I've seen like different stuff that
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he's posted about Kat and He's cat. Williams is one of those people that
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I don't really know where you kind of stand on Cat Williams, you know
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what I mean, Like you make it known about a lot of different stuff,
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but and that one is kind of like in the air. So I'm
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really curious, like just personally to hear like what you think about just him
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in general and leading into the podcast. You know, all right, man,
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I'm gonna try my best to be politically correct. So first of all,
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fellas, I just want to thank y'all for having me on the show.
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You know, it's an honored to be back. But Kat Williams is
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a hater. Bro, I don't know that. It breaks my heart,
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man, it breaks my heart because I always I never really thought of Kat
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william as like corny, you know what I'm saying. But he was just
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doing a lot of shit on there that I just didn't respect. I mean
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as far as like how he feels about Ricky Smile and is Steve Harvey and
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there. I don't knock him, you know what I'm saying. If what
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he's saying is true and how he feels about them is how he feels.
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But bro, calling Luther Chris's wife ugly, where they do that at you
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know what I mean, where's the joke in that you just up here?
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But I was talking to my sister a little bit about it. But like
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how I put that video on my story and me talking the other day about
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how people will be cool with somebody and then when stuff goes left or when
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they don't have anything they can get out of him no more. They just
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shit on them and try to expose them or like, oh, this is
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what they really got going on. That's what he was doing with Lttle Chris
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because Luthera Chris ain't doing nothing to him. M hmm, So what's the
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why try to spend his narrative like, oh, Louli Chris sold his soul
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because he cut his hair off? What are you talking about, bro?
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You know what I mean? Oh? And wife is ugly? Like I
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don't know, man, I don't know, man, I feel like this.
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I don't know, man. It's a real Uh. There's a lot
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of nuances in uh the interview. But say that say that again. No,
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I was gonna say do you think he would because you know there's responses
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coming if it was true or if he was doing it for cloud chasing?
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What do you think his approach? I definitely don't think he's doing it for
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clout. I just think that Kat Williams lives in his own world and sometimes
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he gets it right and sometimes he doesn't. And in this time he said
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it like he's not really like sociable, he's not really around other comedians.
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So I see people do it all the time, where a situation will happen
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and this person is so disconnected from the reality of the situation. They'll go
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sit on it for three months, fass and and like come up with their
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own narrative of what happened, and then they pop back out and be like,
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oh, I don't mess with this dude because of that. I don't
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mess with this dude because of that. And it's like, Bro, what
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are you talking about. That's not what happened. That's what's going on in
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your own mind. Bro. Like I was just watching it, Like at
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first I was watching it. I would say, like the first thirty minutes
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or so, like, Okay, this is dope. Yeah he like you
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know what I'm saying. He going in because I feel like he understands a
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lot of comedians can relate to the concept of like, oh, a bigger
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comedians stole my joke when I was a nobody and they're getting away with it
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and comedians can't relate to all these gatekeepers won't let me in and give me
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certain opportunities to do that. I feel it it was centered around that he's
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been left out of that group, right, And that's the reason. What
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I don't understand, though, is that there's no way that That's another thing
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what I'm saying, like, I promise you everything I say is gonna come
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back full circle, because there's no way he can spend a narrative that older
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leaving me out or older hating on me. When Shannon Sharp said said,
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as the entertainer gave you this huge award that he used to do every year,
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how is he like not embracing you if he's given you this award that
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he has. That's not how blackballing people work. I feel like Kat Williams
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keeps intentionally burning bridges with people and then being mad that they don't embrace me.
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H. I definitely feel a lot of the stuff in what you're saying
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there. The only thing that I can't really speak on specifically to what you're
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saying is I don't know what those people said about him on the Shannon Sharp
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podcast for him to respond, and I would, and I'm going to go
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back and listen to those clips to really like get a full understanding of like
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what he was like talking about as far as like what they said about him.
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But one of the big takeaways that I got from it is like just
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that idea of like he can kind of do that and speak freely and just
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even even if his thoughts are wrong, he can do it and he don't
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have to worry about any pushback as far as anything affecting him and what he's
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doing because of the lane that he's carved out for himself, you know what
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I mean. And that's something that I feel like he was kind of trying
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to get across to where he was just kind of hammering home like I don't
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do stuff that I don't want to do because I don't need to do it.
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I have my fan base, I have, you know what I'm saying,
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Like people like Kat Williams to me, is like that situation that he's
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in a super special because and I feel like, definitely Jar you could relate
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to this, Quincey, you can relate to this as an artist, but
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like just the point of view of being able to lock in that audience where
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they're just going to be locked into you, and you know you're gonna have
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a fan base, Like no matter where you go, no matter what you
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do, you can kind of expect a certain baseline of people to be there
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and support you in your corner just because you've built that equity amongst those people.
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Like, to me, that's super dope, and it's dope that he
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can kind of give his point of view right or wrong, but just say,
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hey, I don't do X, Y and Z because of these reasons.
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You can like her or not like the reasons, but hey, that's
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what he's doing, you know what I mean. I think that he,
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like you said, he is in his own lane and he's uh, he's
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independent, so he's like, you know what I mean, he's his own
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source of for lack of a better word, of power. But at the
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same time, I feel like he's misusing his influence because if he's happy being
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independent, why does he care so much as not being accepted by the people
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that he rejected. It doesn't make sense that he would go up there and
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be like, they offered me fifty million dollars four times, and I turned
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it down, but Kevin Hart said yeah, and I'm mad about it,
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Like why would you be mad? Yeah, it's like turning a chick down
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and being mad at the next dude for like smashing her, like they got
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smashed her. Why are you mad at me? You're gonna be with me
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for picking up the chick that you turned down? Like nothing I was.
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I would say the majority of the stuff he was saying just wasn't making any
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sense to me. It just sounded good. But it sounds good because he's
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a stand up comedian. We make we lie and make it sound believable,
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you know what I'm saying, Like is what is part of the arts?
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You know what I'm saying. But as far as like the stuff he was
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saying about Ricky Smiley and Steve Harvey and said that the entertainer and uh,
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just like a lot of the older comedians, I can't really speak to that
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because that's like a personal situation and the conversation and ship like that. Just
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a lot of the outside stuff was just like like how he was like,
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oh, Joe Rogan won't bring me on his show because I'm funny and he's
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trying to promote six unfunny comedians. Joe Rogan just posted I want to say
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for the past two episodes they were on the show in Cat Williams Love,
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Yeah you can go on this and went on there and talked about Kat Williams
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episode in his own World making up his own ship like he was talking about
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bro So so you're too funny to be on Joe Rogan, But Dave Chappelle
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was on there. Are you alluding to the fact that you're funnier than Dave
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Chappelle? Is that what we're gonna do? You know what I mean?
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Like, you know, your resume don't stack up against his, So don't
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even try to spend that as a narrative. Nigga, you gonna look crazy?
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Yeah what what? Like the host it about Cedric I get. I'm
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not saying I get it, but it's the fact that he's saying that he
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stole that that space of joke from that I get. I be mad about
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that, but then actually up and comer like, damn, that's all I
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got right now and that joke. Hey, I still remember that jokes,
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the whole joke to this day. But Steve Harvey, I felt like he
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was just hating he was he was just hating all them like that's it was
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just pure hate. Yeah, they have some weird I can't remember what what
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started it, but they have some weird beef like twenty years ago, going
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back and forth on the radio or something. And it's almost like he's getting
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some like secondhand beef just from the residual of the Bernie shit too, you
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know what I mean. Like he's like he seems real like like stuck on
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that, you know what I'm saying. It's like, Bro, Bernie been
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dessence with six? Bro, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
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like, did Bernie even fuck with you like that? Because I mean,
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what Bernie died in six? Oh well could y'all relationship both y'all are on
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the road like crazy? You said Bernie died in oh six? And what
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you cut off for a second? Oh my bad, I was saying Bernie
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Bernie passing what like oh six? I'm just guessing. And uh, when
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you grew up in two thousand and two before social media, they're both traveling
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on the road, How well could you even know this? Nigga? August
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ninety, two thousand and eight was when he passed. Okay, it was
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it was a decent time guy, because I mean, if you think about
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it from the comic view days, that was ninety eight ninety you know what
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I'm saying. So he had a good, solid decade, I would say,
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at least in the industry. You know what I mean. Did you
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think about Kat Williams just as far as work goes, you know, a
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comedian resume, I like, I mean, obviously like his first two specials
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is crazy. But I mean, outside of the first two, his specials
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have been bent pretty like subpar. And I see that that, Uh,
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that's part of the reason why he's so bitter. He just because you say
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you're not bitter doesn't mean you're not bitter. Bro. Like everything you're on
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here saying, like you throwing shots at he said, Joe Rogan's pushing six
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unfunny comedians right now? What do they have to do with anything you talking
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about? Bro? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like these are
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just up and coming guys. And I guarantee you he's not gonna say who
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he's naming, but he's so he's so real, But he'll throw subliminal at
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six niggas and then refuse to say who you talking about either say their names
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or don't you know what I'm saying. It was just I don't know,
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man. I was just I don't know, man. Like the whole interview,
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I'm just like, what is this nigga doing? He's self destructive.
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Bro, That's why I got that quote. You can't sugar quote a bitter
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pill and call it a tic tack. You can't sound bitter and then say
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you're not bitter it. Bro, you fringing up and like this whole Friday
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after Next shit. That movie came out over twenty years ago. Bro,
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this new generation barely carried I would say they got another five years of that
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movie being relevant without it sounded like dinosaurs, Like I like Harlem Nison all
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that. Imagine a nigga going on the podcast and trying to tell you some
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like gossip about that shit. Niggas don't give a fuck, you know what
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I'm saying. So you give a fuck because we grew up on that movie.
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But this is your generation. Ain't trying to hear about a twenty year
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old movie. Bro. So my understanding from the way it started was that
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Kat actually came up there or came to the podcast in response to individuals like
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Cedric dannertating her and Ricky Smiley coming on there and making certain comments that he
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perceived as lies. So from that standpoint, I get what you're saying,
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but it's also like like if they're going to still talk about it and make
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references to it, then I'm gonna address my side, you know what I
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mean. So that's that's my only kind of take on that. Yeah,
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I do feel what you was talking about, Jerry as far as because I
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didn't look at it from the point of view of like he kind of was
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all over the place, and then like there's certain things that he said that
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if you kind of like just look at him like in a in a nutshell,
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like all those extra little things that he threw in there is kind of
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like, you know, it kind of convolutes like the main message, you
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know what I mean, Like if I got an issue with somebody, then
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that's it. It's just you. I'm not about to be like blah blah
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blah. Oh, by the way, this nigga's wife is ugly, you
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tell crazy. It takes away from from the point of like what you're actually
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trying to get at. For sure, Like when you like if he came
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on there and really just addressed Ricky Smiley and Cedric Entertainer, I think you'd
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probably be having a different conversation exactly, Yeah, exactly. But then when
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you do all the other shit, it's like, oh, if nigga's mistreated
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you, you probably deserved it, because look how you're acting now, you're
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acting like them, like you know what I'm saying, they chump you out,
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niggas like, and they're probably sitting around laughing. Here's the thing,
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here's right. He was stuck on the fact that Steve Harvey was like,
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oh, I don't I'm not a movie star because I didn't want to be
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right. And you know what I'm saying. Obviously that we can we can
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debate whether he really wanted to or not. Only Steve Harvey really knows that
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that's true or not. But Steve Harvey's up one hundred two hundred ms right
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now. So if you're saying that, like he wanted to be a movie
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star and he failed because they didn't write scripts for him, Okay, his
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plan B looks fucking immaculate to me. You know what, I'm saying,
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the same reason enough from him, bro, Yeah, and what I've always
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heard and I've always wondered, what's true is that he said he Steve Harvey
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said he don't do comedy because of all the shows he got and he's afraid
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of getting canceled. And then oh, he said on the comedy because he
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got shows. He's that because he doesn't have a fan base, Like I
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don't know how he might still have a fan base. Man, if it's
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such that the entertainer is still torn and doing shows, there's no way Steve
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Harvey can't do shows, you know what I'm saying. And people are paying
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money to go see said they'll pay to go see Steve Harvey. That's like,
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that's like fucking Big Boy touring and saying Andre three thousand camp. It's
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like they if they like one, they like the other, or they're just
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willing to go see you know what I'm saying, what you're talking about.
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And on top of that, like people are overlooking the fact that Steve Harvey
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is almost seventy years old. Bromm. Yeah, that's an old ass man
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you're talking about. He might not want to fucking tour. The nigga is
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Oh you think would you rather be traveling around the world with your wife,
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smoking cigars and wearing outfits that you're too old for, or would you want
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to roll stuck on a bus, dealing with torments and and all that type
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of shit, Like look at the quality of life, Kat Williams, Like
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everything coming full circle. Bro. This nigga on the interview saying himself,
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I smoked weed because as a comedian, you travel all the time and you
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gotta eat at three in the morning, and your body don't like you living
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like you. You sound miserable. Bro, seventy year old man wants to
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live like that? Oh he don't tour because he's not funny no more.
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He might not be nigga, he's seventy. This nigga was old thirty years
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ago. He was like, Bro, you not tricking me. Bro like
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that, nigga do a lot of a lot of double talk. And then
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the ship with me when I when I started peeping at this nigga was like
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on some bullshit. I know, Like, yah, I'm sure y'all got
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the ear too, Like I got an ear for like music and tone and
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inflection and shit, like I can hear the sincerity and when people talk sometimes
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And I peeped in the interview, he was like performing, like he was
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trying to like say something cool and like, Nigga, just say the truth.
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Why are you trying to He was definitely taking the time to like formulate
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his response, so it's like quote worthy, you know what I mean?
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Bro, Like he wouldn't give it right away. He would like take a
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second part to think about it. I thought they were like muting certain parts,
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but he was just stopping and they're like starting his next phrase. Yeah,
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how can I lean into my character a little bit and say something that
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sounds flying and play or and slick, like Nigga shut the fuck up?
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He read three thousand books when he's six years old. What are we talking
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about? Bro? Let's audio books, comic book college and some honors class.
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But when I showed up, all the kids were wearing lab coats,
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So I felt a test on purpose? Nigga shut the fuck up on purpose?
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You sabotaged it. So you want me to believe that bro like this,
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Nigga is a liar? Bro? No, No, he definitely threw
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in a lot of saws and a lot of Like I really believe that,
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I really leave. Ricky Smiley was there. You know what I'm saying,
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I really do believe the Sedge of the Entertainers joke, and I can't remember
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what it beat with Steve Harvey was. I think it was just like some
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ego. I think it's throw for Ricky Smile because, uh, you know
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Steve Harvey, Ricky Smile is super close. They had that radio show forever,
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so they've always done things together, and that's what I mean. I
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think it kind of just went into Steve Harvey hate, like I didn't hear
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the reason for the Steve Harvey hate I think, which is a ramp by
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why he didn't fuck with So I got a question, do you think that
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a lot of his issues are personal vendettas towards these individuals are because you know,
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he has certain I guess morals or values that he's not willing to bend
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on that he's seen them bend on. Like, do you think that has
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something to do with it? This nigga has glorified being a pimp for twenty
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years. Bro, he asked him if he was a nigga, wasn't arrested
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nineteen times? He got morals. This nigga fought a little kid and he
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got orals like what are we talking about that nigga. Did you hear what
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he said why he adopted all of his kids? This nigga said he adopted
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and he didn't use this word, but I'm using this word because this bottom
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line what he's saying, he adopted ten kids so he could trick God into
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thinking he's a good person. Bro. If you're God and you see somebody
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adopt ten kids, what would you think of that person? As Santa Shark
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was like, I was a huge good person. So like you didn't adopt
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them because like there was ten kids you wanted to take care of, or
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you just felt this need to like nurture something. You did it specifically so
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God would think you're a good person. What have you done in your life
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to make you have to pull a stunt like that? You know another thing
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too, bro, Like one of the reasons why I really hate I hate
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when any nigga speaks on another man's wife. I feel like that is like
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some super duper whole shit because especially in these times like with the gender war
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and shit going on, but having a wife is like socially, it gives
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you that perception. I don't even want to say perception because that sounds like
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manipulative, but you have that image of like, Okay, this is a
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solid man. They've been together for twenty years. He has to be a
23:15
stand up guy because this woman has stood next to him for twenty years.
23:18
So for a nigga that's fifty two years old to not be able to say
23:22
he's been married once, he just has a bunch of women that came in
23:26
and out of his life that can't co sign for him no more. You
23:30
have no right to ever say a nigga's wife is ugly or anything, because
23:33
it's not a take on the committed that can be like, oh, for
23:37
twenty years, I've been with this nigga every day and I can tell you
23:38
this is a real nigga and he fifty two. But you speaking on another
23:44
nigga's wife like that shit is corny, bro, Like it was too much.
23:48
He did too much bitch shit for me to be even even respect the
23:51
little beef he got because it's like what I think is what I really.
23:55
This is my own personal conspiracy theory or whatever. But he said it him
24:00
and his pops got into it when he was a jit. His pops is
24:03
like, nigga, you gotta get the fuck out. So the nigga slid
24:06
he's homeless. Now. I think he just has a problem with authority because
24:08
everybody he gets next to, he only gets close enough to pet what they
24:12
got going on? See what's this? See what's that? And then he
24:15
slides out and then ships on him. Shit on Ludacris, Bro, what
24:21
did this nigga do to you? Nothing? You know what I'm saying.
24:23
Like every everybody he sucks out, even the Nick Cannon shit. Nick Cannon
24:27
sees this niggas having like some turbulence in his career, so he's like,
24:32
boh, let me put you on Wilding Out, put you in front of
24:34
America again. Give him another look. And Cat Williams World, where he
24:40
expinses on narratives, he's like, oh, I was on Wilding Out because
24:42
they needed me to establish respect between the comedians and the rappers. Probably Out
24:47
was popping before you was even on the show. Apion Crockett had that show
24:51
jumping gets this shit. But in Cat Williams little fucking circus of a mind,
24:56
he's like, Oh, I'm important, Nick Cann, it ain't shit
25:00
without me, and I'm gonna go with sharp show and say like, oh,
25:03
if it wasn't for me, the rappers would have punched Nick Cannon in
25:07
the eye. What I'm talking about, Bro, everybody he gets next to
25:12
he ends up shitting on in the major thing. I don't know if y'all
25:15
if y'all know this because you're not that big of a comedian, but uh,
25:19
I mean he's torn athlete or whatever. But anyways, nigga Ali Sadik
25:23
has been calling this nigga out for five years about being a bitch ass nigga.
25:30
He pitching this nigga name, not one time throwing up on Shannon Sharp
25:34
Show to set the record straight. Speak on the nigga that you know you
25:37
can't speak on what you're gonna say. You more of a street nigga in
25:41
him. A nigga that did ten years in prison and they't tell nobody until
25:45
he was fifteen years into his comedy career. Are you funnier than this nigga?
25:48
A nigga who drops a special every single year and it's just one big
25:52
story that is like critically acclaimed. Right now, you can't this nigga.
25:57
This nigga has been a less of a He's been famous for a short amount
26:03
of time. The Cat Williams and already has a more well respected body of
26:07
work as far as like talent goes. He no narrative he can spend about
26:11
this nigga. And you got all the smoke for this nigga that's seventy years
26:15
old. But you know, Al put the fucking pause on you, so
26:18
you ain't got But this is another thing too, Bro is like, Hi,
26:23
I know he's duck and smoke because in the interview with Kat Williams is
26:27
like, oh, I used to be called Cat and the Hat, but
26:30
Disney sent me a h The nigga who exposed him for being called Cat and
26:37
the Hat and wearing hats on stage was Ali Sad. That's why he so
26:41
the nigga. The nigga crossed their mind in the interview. You know what
26:47
I'm saying, But you you don't want to because you know you're not gonna
26:49
get all all the you know, like the Steve Harvey shit is selections.
26:53
They're bigger than you. So if you I won't say bigger than but y'all,
26:56
y'all know what I mean, Like they got pedigree. I speak on
27:00
them, it'll be like a ripple effect. But if I speak on al,
27:03
I'm introducing him to my audience. I do not even know who he
27:07
is, but he got real smoke with you. He talking about he want
27:11
to whoop your ass when you don't got none to say. All right,
27:15
yeah, I ain't gonna lie giant. That's a you gotta. That's a
27:19
good take. You make it some great points. But never hate with me,
27:22
Bro. I know it's never hate. It's just I be seeing the
27:26
patterns and ship on the line. It's like this nigga is full of ship.
27:32
You can run a four to three nigga and you come home. Bro.
27:37
I'm not why Lie, Bro, I feel like you smoke more weeds
27:45
than snoop. Why Lie? I feel like, like like I said in
27:49
the beginning, like as far as comedian goes, he's my favorite comedian.
27:52
Like that's like you know, on stage and everything. But yeah, exactly.
27:57
But kind of like you saying, Bro, it's like when you talk
28:00
about shit that's like supposed to be when you when you speak on stuff that's
28:04
supposed to be unspoken, there's no way for you to speak on it and
28:10
not look the way that you're saying. You know what I'm saying because That's
28:12
why it's things you don't talk about because exactly what you're talking about, bro,
28:15
Like, we've all had fallen outs and things like that, and you
28:19
know, you you talk about it, but there's aspects of it that you
28:25
always keep close to the best because, like you said, bro, like,
28:27
there ain't no way to say certain things without opening that can of worms,
28:32
And there ain't no way to say certain things without sounding like a bitch.
28:33
You know what I'm saying exactly what you're saying, right, so you
28:38
know he's speaking on certain things. But like you said, then other things
28:41
come up, little little random topics, little side swipes that he's taking that
28:45
people and stuff like that. But like, I definitely feel everything you're saying,
28:51
like because what you're saying is valid as hell facts, but just from
28:56
the point of like, I still like it from the point of view of
28:59
like, bruh, he he's able to kind of like it's kind of like
29:02
it's funny because I heard the Sean Strickland podcast where he was on theovon.
29:06
I don't know if y'all heard that, but he's, you know, the
29:07
lightweight champion right now in the UFC. He's like a real controversial, like
29:15
yeah with the pin here right, No, no, no, no,
29:18
he's the like country kind of white boy that got in a fight in the
29:22
crowd recently. Yeah. Yeah, But anyway, he was on the Theovon
29:26
Show and he was kind of coming at it from the point of view of
29:30
like, you know if I was, because he's real outspoken, and he
29:33
was just telling Theovonne like, if I was in the NBA right now talking
29:36
the way I'm talking, I would they would have kicked me out the league.
29:38
I wouldn't have had a chance to make money. But I'm in the
29:41
UFC, and you know they they don't control you that way, So I
29:45
can say what I want, you know, and It'll just affect me,
29:47
you know what I'm saying, Like he can still do what he wants as
29:48
long as he performs, but it'll affect him, you know what I'm saying.
29:52
And that's always like the main gist that I got from the Cat Williams
29:56
thing was like, Bro, he can talk like that because he don't get
30:00
to turn around and then look at that person and expect to check from them
30:03
exactly what I'm saying. So that that's like, that's like the piece that
30:07
I kind of took away even even from the point of view of like,
30:11
that's something that I aspire to be, like somebody that can kind of do
30:14
my thing and just do it the way that I would like to do it
30:17
and say what I want to say without having to worries that somebody could take
30:19
the money out my hand. You know what I say. No, that's
30:22
a fact, and I definitely respect that. I feel like as human beings,
30:26
like at the end of the day, as human beings, we should
30:27
be able to free. We should be able to be free enough to experiment
30:30
with the thoughts and the shit we want to say. But with that,
30:33
you gotta you gotta own up to that ship and stand on that square.
30:38
So throw all these darts and it be like, oh, by the way,
30:41
I'm not bitter, Nah, you are bitter. Just oh you know
30:44
what I'm saying. I don't respect that more. He's like, yo,
30:45
may if he would have been on all of that ship, And it be
30:48
like, Yo, you know what, Maybe I am bitter because I just
30:51
been doing it on my own. I endure so much bullshit as a comedian.
30:55
I feel like a lot of other people are getting the easy way out,
30:59
and I'm being overlooked. I could respect that more than like, I'm
31:03
just saying the truth. Yeah, Kevin Hartson Industry playing this nigga got the
31:07
work documented. Yeah, he like. But that's the thing that like people
31:14
like him do. They spend these narratives and be like, how can that
31:18
be true if this is what happened. So when he's like he we just
31:22
watched the documentary him blowing up on New York, how did he blow up
31:26
in LA? At the same time, that's not what they're saying, nigga.
31:29
You can blow up in New York, get scouted by agents that are
31:33
based out of LA. They fly you to La, book you in these
31:36
rooms, and now you're buzzing in La, nigga. But bro, and
31:40
even kind of like you were saying, like with the with the darts analogy,
31:44
it's like he also like picked up a couple of them and said,
31:47
I don't know about this one and left like five darts. You know what
31:48
I'm saying, It's like you're good. Like you said, like, if
31:52
you're gonna tell your truth, you know, quote unquote, you got to
31:56
speak on all of it and you gotta just keep it real all across the
31:59
board. No, facts. Hear you, jarr Yo, I can't hear
32:08
you. I think he had to take a take something real quick. But
32:14
we can keep going. I think yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But
32:19
the crazy thing is like that what I wanted to ask Jari about too,
32:23
is my yeah, my bad that Cam Patterson. This nigga called me about
32:29
three times since I've been on here. Man, you know what I'm saying,
32:34
Because how he was like, yeah, you know Joe Rogan six funny
32:37
niggas. It's like, damn, this nigga talking about Cam Rogan. Joe
32:40
Rogan been promoting Cam too, so it's like he's so out of touch with
32:45
this ship. There's like a whole like, for lack of a better word,
32:49
I would say, like a fraternity of comedians in Austin right now,
32:53
and they on somebody you're talking about this nigga, all thirty four of us.
32:58
It's fuck you, nigga. You know what I'm saying. But when
33:01
you just sit around in your own little world and don't know what's going on
33:06
and talk like you do, this is a type of uh shit that happens.
33:09
Bro. You know yo, something I wanted to ask you to that
33:14
came up in the in the podcast and I've always found interesting, like especially
33:17
now that you know, in the last like ten years or so, the
33:20
podcast thing got real popular. You hear comedians talking to each other all the
33:23
time and getting interviewed. The dress thing that always pops up in every time
33:30
they're interviewing comedians, but specifically black comedians. They don't ask white comedians,
33:37
they don't ask Spanish comedians, Indian, Asian whatever, black comedians the dress
33:43
thing. What's your take on? And when I say the dress thing,
33:45
I'm talking about the perception that they're always trying to put a black man in
33:50
a dress to kind of like demascularize. I don't even know how to masculate,
33:54
like emasculate. There you go to like kind of emasculate them. Like,
33:59
what's your take on that idea of the theory, What is your take
34:01
on wearing a dress for comedy? Like, what do you think about that?
34:05
The first comedian I heard that to say it out loud on like a
34:07
public platform with Dave Chappelle, he put that shit out there and was like,
34:10
this, this is what it is. I mean, it's something that
34:13
people like would talk about, but not with the type of platform that Dave
34:17
Chappelle, and I could be wrong somebody who said it before him, but
34:21
that's just my recollection of it. But I think personally, I think it
34:23
stems from like that that practice that they used to do in slavery, that
34:27
breaking buckshite, where somebody like ran away or like rebelled, they just saying
34:31
one of these niggas out there and just fuck him in front of everybody to
34:35
like be like, oh, this is this is who y'all fuck with.
34:37
Well, guess what, I just fucked him in the ass type some psychological
34:40
shit, you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of like that same
34:45
perception, like, oh, this they broke you. They made you put
34:46
the dress on, because what straight nigga wants to wear a dress? And
34:52
at this point it's hacky because it's been done so many times. It's not
34:54
like, oh I put this dress on. Isn't that so funny? No,
34:58
nigga, We've seen this shit a million times. But I was talking
35:02
to my sister about it. It's kind of like how I was saying,
35:05
like people should be able to experiment with they words and shit. I don't
35:08
say that in the context of experiment and wearing a dress. But I just
35:13
brought up the fact that like what if, what if our perception of them
35:16
wearing the dress wasn't the case. What if it's just a corny joke that
35:22
Hollywood just does, you know what I'm saying, And we're we have that
35:25
perception of it because of the history behind emasculating black men, you know what
35:30
I'm saying. But I say, all say, nigga ain't wearing no dresses,
35:40
you know what, whatever, whatever floats they bowled or whatever. But
35:45
I was telling her too, because like, you know what I'm saying.
35:46
She she asked me about the dress thing, and like, oh, what
35:50
would you do with that or not? But I always feel like I got
35:52
a step above like comedians in a ways, because like, if this shit
35:57
don't work out, a nigga, I'll go back and selling cars, you
36:00
know what I'm saying, Like I can always make money, stand up to
36:05
be like a successful man, and like a lot of these niggas do,
36:07
Like I don't If this ship don't I'm cussing my mom. But if yeah,
36:15
bro, if this don't work out, bro, I'm gucci. You
36:17
know what I'm saying. Ship, I don't know what I'm saying, like
36:22
I figure I have a yard self before I write. You know, yeah,
36:30
that's kind of how you feeling, even about like the music. The
36:34
music that always laugh when people kind of bring up like the local rapper like
36:37
Persona, and it's like dog, like just because somebody want to be creative,
36:43
you know what I'm saying. Don't mean like they broke, you know
36:45
what I'm saying, Like it's like dog, maybe they just want to be
36:47
creative and if something pop, some pop, but if it don't pop,
36:51
I'm still straight like I enjoy I enjoy creating it, right. It's it's
36:55
it's kind of crazy though, because like it's kind of like that with comedy
37:00
too, as far as like just creating your art, because like as a
37:05
rapper, it's like, man, if you ain't famous, you ain't ship
37:08
comedian. It's like if this joke ain't funny, we personally dislike you.
37:22
Like the weird part about comedy though, is that you can't practice unless there's
37:28
other people around, you know what I'm saying. Like, imagine something some
37:32
nigga is painting, and and like why he's painting, people just pull up
37:37
and start bowing his nigga it's not done yet. I'm still working on it,
37:43
you know, like I was going to go back and cover this up
37:46
or whatever. But it's like that with comedy though, it's like, bro,
37:49
like, I'm just testing out the frame of the joke. That's not
37:52
the punchline I wants, you know what I mean, that's potential. I
37:55
just gotta you know what I'm saying, which is I think that was a
38:00
dope part of the interview that I didn't understand about stand up comedy that he
38:04
kind of broke down yesterday where he was like, how you not per minute?
38:07
You about to talk about the last per minute? No, no,
38:09
no, which is about how he basically was like, you know how you
38:14
formulate a joke and you know you you cultivated and you try it out and
38:17
then you add from it and you take from it, and didn't you have
38:21
a special And I'm like, oh, that's dope. I never really thought
38:22
about it like that, you know what I'm saying. Then even now he
38:25
was saying that like Mark, like he was telling the joke that Mark Curry
38:29
kind of helped him pull it to make it a little funnier, and then
38:31
he kind of when he actually was doing it that it was like a big
38:35
joke. It was like the retooled version that he did with Mark Curry,
38:38
you know what I mean. But something interesting you said, no, no,
38:43
go ahead, if you've got example, go ahead, go ahead.
38:44
Nah, I'll get y'all example. I got a joke where it's like,
38:46
oh, I just found this app that'll pay you to uh to speed date.
38:52
And then people were just like, oh, shit, is an app
38:53
that will pay your speed day? Like that's what they anticipated. I'm like,
38:57
yeah, it's called driving Uber and it's shit is getting paid to speed
39:00
day dad. So they think, like that's like a thing. What I'm
39:02
about to do with that, though, is I'm about to to flip that
39:06
because I gotta I got a joke that's like the premise is about people going
39:10
to therapy, so then by by therapy blah blah blah, and then I
39:15
say the punchline and I'm like, yeah, speaking of therapy, you know,
39:17
I just became a therapist, and like, oh, just think of
39:21
that therapy too. Yeah I just started driving Uber. Yeah yeah exactly.
39:27
But now instead of me talking about speed dating and riding around picking bitches up,
39:30
I can talk about me riding around and listening to people's problems. It's
39:36
the same joke, but now I can take it in a different direction and
39:37
expand it more exactly like talking about picking bitches up like niggas talking about bitches
39:43
all day is kind of like one dimensional. But if I'm talking about picking
39:46
up people and listening to their problems, I can take that ship anywhere.
39:52
Yeah, it's like the same do with music too, Like you might do
39:54
a song that the song is trash, but you did like a little four
39:58
bars and that like a little l D or sequence that you're like there's something
40:00
here and you take it to something else and it'll be like the main part
40:04
of the next song. You know. Fact. But something you said that
40:07
was real interesting joy that I heard Jerry Seinfeld talk about with Mario Joyner on
40:13
The Comedians and Cards Show. He was telling him that the thing that really
40:16
made them friends in the beginning was that he saw his act as far as
40:22
Seinfeld saw Mario Joyner's act, because Mario Joyner was opening for him. He
40:24
saw the act. Even though Mario tried to be cool with him before he
40:29
wasn't really trying to be cool with him, but then he saw the act
40:31
and Seinfeld says somewhere it was like the actor is the currency, you know
40:36
what I mean? So is that is that kind of how it is when
40:37
the comedy and I be I'll be laying that shit be known because like I
40:43
booked Matt Rooms now, I want like one of the biggest bookers in Florida
40:45
now. So a lot of niggas be like trying to like nigga. You
40:49
know what I'm saying. You can imagine what comes with that. Yeah,
40:52
you can imagine what comes with that. But like, bro, if you're
40:54
not funny nigga, what can what can we talk about? You know what?
41:00
You know, we're not gonna be friends, We're not gonna hang out
41:01
and we're not gonna be on shows together. Just get funny first, bro,
41:05
and then we can figure out all the all of the rest of the
41:07
ship. But like, Bro, we're at work. M I'm saying,
41:10
do you want to work with the nigga that doesn't do his job correctly?
41:15
Yeah? Exactly exactly. I recently went in and filmed the show that you
41:22
guys did at the Improv in Orlando, the one for Cam where you were
41:27
like the one that came out right before him and it was freaking hilarious,
41:31
dog, And it was just dope to see kind of like even like what
41:36
we're talking about and kind of like winding down like and even going off of
41:39
what you're saying where you're kind of like creating your own path. Like,
41:43
it was just dope to see that, Like you started, you know,
41:45
where me and Quincy kind of seen where you were booking like these little shows
41:50
and like these smaller venues around the city, you know, putting them together.
41:52
Those were those were super dope and they went real well. And then
41:57
it's just been elevating and slowly going up, slowly going up. Everything's just
42:00
been turning up, and you're putting the working and you're funny because and at
42:04
the end of the day, Bro, you can't lose if you're doing that.
42:07
And I feel like that's something that Kat Williams has going for him too.
42:09
He puts the work in and he's funny, So regardless of all the
42:13
other stuff, he can't lose because he's money and he's putting the work in,
42:16
you know. And exactly I've seen him at the CFE Arena, I
42:22
think twice. Both times it was sold out. Brom and not even know
42:27
like he wasn't even doing anything at the time, Like he wasn't on TV.
42:30
He just was on Yeah, same same, he got that market he
42:35
got that marketable image and ship. Yep. That's why it's like it just
42:39
be making him look like a hater, because it's like, Bro, you
42:42
got all of his success. Why do you have so much smoke for everybody?
42:45
Why are you pray? What did Michael Blackson do to you? Why?
42:49
Why are you why are you calling him out for being an African and
42:52
using a fake accent? But you're a supposed pimp pretending to be a pimp.
42:58
It's the same shit when you doing with African shit you was doing with
43:00
the pimp shit money Mike and all that shit. You're You're you're playing a
43:06
fictitional, fictitious personality, you know what I'm saying. So like the whole
43:12
ship, I don't know, man, he was just daying this. Nigga
43:15
said he made a list of three hundred comedians, Bro, three hundred comedians
43:22
that are funnier than him, and at a time with nothing of them.
43:29
Yeah, I counted the last per minute of three hundred comedians and I wouldn't
43:36
stop until I got more last per minute than all of them. He only
43:38
talks like that because he knows people don't understand those like they that's probably like
43:44
a lot of people's first time hearing the phrase laugh permitted then stand up and
43:49
be like, okay, one laugh who laugh? So it sounds like he's
43:52
like this comedic mastermind, genius niggas no nigga in the world you gotta beat
43:59
with a specific if a comedian that's sitting in a fucking comedy class or room
44:02
or whatever and counting a nigga's laugh per minute, and even going off that
44:07
to three hundred people, bro facts, and even going off that argument that
44:12
case Compel's not funny because he don't get that many laughs. Like you know,
44:15
he's not just throwing zingers out the whole time now, he just builds
44:19
them up like beautifully. Exactly what I was saying, because I do that
44:22
same shit sometimes where I am with a joke where I like this long,
44:25
dramatic, deep sentimental shit and then I hit him with a nigga. It'll
44:30
take me like a minute and a half so I get to the point.
44:31
But you've got five laughs within my minute and a half, And you think
44:37
that that makes you a better comedian. You could be wrong, because people
44:39
could be laughing harder at my shit. He could be more impressed if people
44:44
come out to laugh and they're drunk. I promise you it's not that hard
44:46
to make them laugh. If you do it, it's nothing to get a
44:51
quick little how high he heat. Yeah, it's all about taste exactly,
44:55
but he tried to formulate it to make it it some mathematics equation that taste
45:00
is irrelevant. But the nigga. Look at the nigga, does he look
45:07
like a nigga that has wearing This nigga had a big cruise ship steering wheel
45:16
chain on and a big old koopy that doesn't have taste. So that's why
45:29
has so much to say about everybody else's. I will tell you one thing.
45:32
I will tell you one thing that I did notice yesterday that made the
45:37
interview of the cruise ship chain took me out by back. The nigga is
45:44
savvy with his words. He's very savvy with his words, and I definitely
45:50
peeped that. Like you know, he comes off very very articulate. Dog.
45:57
I was looking at that chain like, yo, what the fuck is
46:00
that? Yeah? I think it's I was looking at it. I think
46:04
it said woke folks, coke woke. It was like, I don't know,
46:07
but when you just yo the cruise ship, that was exactly it too.
46:12
That was a Royal Caribbean. That's accurate. This nigga did two timeshare
46:20
of presentations to get that nigga. Bogus, Bro that nigga. I'm sorry,
46:28
Bro, Yo, chill out, brother. I thought Stanning was gonna
46:35
come at him a couple of times pause because he kept saying that country bumpkin
46:38
thing, and I'm like, I'm like, Bro, Shannon is a country
46:43
do it on TV? Yeah? Definitely, Like you know what I'm saying,
46:45
Like he was gonna be like hold a minute now, like talking to
46:51
yo, hey, but real talk. Give Shannon his props, man,
46:54
like Shannon. You know, he handled that very well, dog like,
46:59
very very well. And I'm very impressed with how far he's come along with
47:01
his you know what I'm saying, that TV experience, Dog, He's come
47:06
so far it bailss for like five years. Dog. You know, it
47:09
would have been crazy though if that was a Drink Champs episode, Oh yeah,
47:15
oh yeah, horrible. But That's what I'm saying, Like Shannon moderated
47:19
that very well. You know what I'm saying, I feel like Drink Champs.
47:22
That's that ship would have been a mess. I feel like Drink Champs
47:24
fell on Drink Champ. Oh yeah, yeah, nobody wants to go on
47:30
there first. If when niggas does a response video on Drink Champs, you
47:37
automatically know that ship about to be insane. Let's get the smoke out the
47:45
way, right, Yes, Steve Harvey about to sell out with his old
47:47
ass and you know what, man, this little ass. But that's another
47:53
thing, bro, How is nigga trying to paint him? He told Shannon
47:58
Sharp. Oh, I got a photograph memory, I have the cyclopedia and
48:01
all that kind of shit. But when Santa Sharp is like Sedric gave you
48:07
this award in two thousand and that was part of the reason why you got
48:10
looked at for the role of Next Friday afternoxt Oh, I forgot about that.
48:15
Oh you don't remember that this big ass thing that happened in the beginning
48:20
of your career that opened a huge door for you. You don't remember that.
48:22
That's true, That's true. Your narrative that these niggas is hating on
48:25
you so you omit it. You know what I'm saying. Time, Like
48:31
any hate he got for Cedric got just feeling his joke is justified because it's
48:35
like, nigga, if you steal my joke, you really just think I
48:37
ain't never gonna be shipped. That's what it is. I'm gonna get my
48:40
lick back you. I'm about to just die in obscurity, especially before social
48:45
media, don't do it as much no more because like that shit can it
48:49
comes out overnight facts, But in the nineties, niggas tell your ship and
48:52
be in Nebraska with it, and he's got no idea, you know what
48:55
I'm saying, So don't I don't blame here for having smoke. But it's
49:00
like, bro, if you got smoke, nigga, just keep it smoking.
49:01
You don't gotta lie. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and
49:06
spend these narratives and ship, We're gonna see. We're gonna see man.
49:10
You know what I'm saying. We're gonna see see. I haven't seen nobody
49:14
really like But again, he didn't get that nobody that's really gonna do.
49:17
Kevin Hart got a clean image. He's trying to touch a billion within the
49:22
next five years. He ain't got trying to be going back and forth with
49:24
Kevin Hart, who he talked about Tiffany Hattish Hey Ricky. Ricky Smiley responded,
49:31
he basically just you know, took the high roll. Ricky Smiley said,
49:36
it's all love over here, played by He already made that phone call.
49:42
Yeah, yeah, Illuminati phone. Yeah, he ain't getting no more
49:45
rolls, right, we gotta get that. I didn't like about that ship
49:53
that Nigga brought up Ricky Smiley's dead son. I'm like, Nigga is playing
50:00
don't even remember. It wasn't like it was very indirectly, but he did
50:02
bring it up. It was indirectly talk about it. Yeah, exactly that
50:07
that part was kind of wild. That's great, Bigga is out of pocket.
50:12
I think he said, do you remember exactly? How I know?
50:14
It was something like he was basically addressing that Ricky Smiley came out right after
50:20
his son died or something. It was like indirect but it was like you
50:22
didn't have to say that, you know. He was like, why would
50:24
he remember? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that part It's like, wow,
50:29
that's like you don't Yeah, that's kind of wild. Man smoked with
50:38
plenty of niggas, and I don't you know what I'm saying. I ain't
50:43
never go outside like that is always about who you got smoke with? Nigga,
50:47
what are you doing? And then you keep spinning, You keep wanting
50:50
people to believe you not a drunk, you barely drunk. You up there
50:53
looking pretty drunk to me, bro, because how else could you justify you
50:58
randomly just oh, this nigga ugly little Chris shaved off of his sideburns,
51:01
and so this nigga was talking about Chris Tucker hed Chris allegations on Chris Tucker.
51:09
The documents came out yesterday. Where's Chris Tucker's name on their nigga?
51:14
You gotta stand on that. You called me a pedal? Oh no,
51:23
oh man, I hate it had to be cat man. He seemed like
51:28
he seemed like, but I don't know, man, that nigga crashed out
51:31
to me, Bro, I wasn't feeling that ship at all the first fifteen
51:35
minutes. I was like, Okay, yeah, nigga, Yeah, let
51:37
the niggas know what's up. Yeah, what's that ship went left? I'm
51:40
like, Oh, this nigga is a maniac. Hey, that nigga should
51:45
have put that shade down literally. Now that's a real take, though.
51:52
I will say, prior to this conversation, I definitely was like, damn,
51:55
this nigga really was going crazy. But when you kind of put it
52:00
to perspective the way you put it into perspective, it definitely got me like
52:02
kind of I want to almost rewatch it. It kind of like really like
52:07
take it in again because like Paul's Wow, yeah, yeah, Paul's but
52:13
but nah, like that. That's that's an interesting take, a very interesting
52:16
take. And I'm glad we brought you on. That's why I actually wanted
52:19
you to come on, just from your experience and perspective as the comedian.
52:23
You know what I'm saying kind of especially in the grinding phase of your career,
52:27
you know what I'm saying, Like you're grinding. You know what I'm
52:30
saying. You you're not where you started, and you're not where you're you're
52:31
you're gonna be, but you know you you're going through those growing pains.
52:36
So I definitely wanted to get you on here to get your take on it.
52:39
I would say that like, and this is my own personal thing.
52:43
I don't know if other comedians feel this way. But if I have a
52:45
huge platform, I feel like using that to call somebody unfunny. It is
52:50
like one of the most us you can do, especially if it's niggas want
52:52
to come up because like with with the art of comedy, you had the
52:58
ability to curse people. You have you ever known a nigga who got clown
53:02
so bad or something embarrassing happened to him that that became his nickname or that
53:07
all people think of when they see them. If you can really you can
53:10
really curse people, Like look what he sent did the job roll? He
53:14
turned back You know what I'm saying inside the NBA bro to do anything.
53:17
He just cursed them with like his humor inside the NBA bro. What just
53:23
be clowning certain players and turning them into jokes and then teams don't want to
53:28
sign them in a certain life because they're like, they're like the shocking the
53:30
fool guy. You're saying, you you can curse people with this funny shit.
53:35
So for you to like call out six blind blindly because now the Internet
53:40
I've typed it in on Twitter to see what people were saying. They're just
53:44
throwing names out there, of who he could have been talking about. You
53:46
know what I'm now, these niggas are like have this little stigma where people
53:51
are consuming to sit and they're like, Oh, this nigga's not funny.
53:53
This gotta be the nigga Kat Williams was talking about. I would never call
53:58
comedian money on a public platform like that unless I had some personal smoke with
54:04
these niggas, and they would have they would have to speak on me first,
54:07
like they would have to take it there with me. But I feel
54:09
like that's like you taking it up, Like you know what I'm saying.
54:14
There's a lot of people. I'll give you a perfect example just how my
54:17
nigga can be blew up with him blowing up like ten other people moved out
54:22
to Austin. That shit is a ripple effect. You know what I'm saying.
54:24
I'm getting book shows now and getting opportunities off the one opportunity that he
54:30
got to try to shit on another comedian that's coming up. Niggas. You
54:32
don't know if these niggas got families. You don't know if these niggas is
54:37
in the streets and this is like their way out. You don't know what
54:38
the fuck is going on, but you just drunk off your own power and
54:43
just be like I can say whatever I want to say because I can just
54:45
go hide in my mansion. You know what I'm saying. That shit is
54:49
like some sucker shit bro, like the whole shit. I'm like dog.
54:52
After the first fifteens, that nigga didn't say one real nigga statement. Just
54:58
oh this nigga said, said you the inner tain Er don't got a Netflix
55:00
special. You can type the nigga name in Netflix right now. His special
55:05
is right there. But it sounded good. I believe that they talk with
55:14
all that charisma. He don't got one special on TV or Netflix? Can
55:17
I continue? Like, nigga, you just lie? I fell again.
55:24
A fact checker in there, wonder if it was on his side or just
55:28
someone on the show. Oh yeah, yeah, because he got the years
55:30
wrong. Oh yeah, he's wrong when he was talking about the oh yeah,
55:36
the good Years. Yeah, the Kings of Comedy Ship. Yeah,
55:38
this man really do got entertainer Live from the vill on Netflix. I just
55:43
typed that mother right there. That's it took great special. I just watched
55:46
it like last year. And then when I watched it, I was like
55:50
yo, Cedric just like he legit, like look like I was on him.
55:54
But now all this ship is coming out of here still a jokes.
55:57
I'm like, I don't know, fifteen minutes was wrong. For fifteen minutes
56:06
they should have ended up been right there. First fifteen was getting that boys,
56:13
I shouldn't say said you might need to put that drink down, man,
56:21
Bro, I appreciate you again for coming on dog. It was dope
56:25
to get that that perspective because, like like Quincy was saying, Bro,
56:28
I wasn't even thinking about it from that point of view, because, like
56:30
you said, you get wrapped up in the just the entertainment side of it
56:35
and you just enjoy it for that. But when you start picking it apart,
56:37
it's like, oh wait, hold on, a lot of these things
56:40
ain't how it sounded in the in the show, you know what I mean.
56:44
So it's pretty Nigga is a gypsy, bro. What he was doing
56:49
Nigga since he was thirteen, traveling the country still in the lining and manipulated
56:55
how to like spin ship. That's what I That was my takeaway from it.
56:59
I never looked at him like that. But basically, like a Carnie,
57:04
this nigga. You got him there for like three hours. He's gonna
57:08
he's gonna say, he's gonna reveal himself the balloons and ship. You know
57:13
what, Nigga, he's a gypsy, so like the nigga just all he
57:17
know is like finesse and manipulating and like Pepper, like the game and ship.
57:22
So it is what it is. Maybe he's just trying to run the
57:24
finest on the whole world, which I can't be mad at. You know
57:28
what I'm saying, Get off, broke, But I see what the fun
57:31
going on, nigga. Nigga said, I smoke more weed than Snoop.
57:36
All right, bro, running four three have me? Yeah? The four
57:42
three took me out. The four three Yeah yeah, I read that Cyclopedia
57:47
by the time I was six and failed the test on purpose. All right,
57:50
Bro, you're just you're just this master manipulator that's just something ahead of
57:57
everybody. But somehow Kevin Hart for next you out of your spot. So
58:07
what you're telling me, Dave Chappelle could get six Netflix, seven Netflix,
58:12
whatever the case. And uh, you're also at the same time trying to
58:16
spend his narrative like you can't be successful Hollywood unless you sell your soul.
58:21
Did Chappell get everything he want out of the game and you not? I'm
58:24
not doing no podcast Dave Chappelle. He's so raw at this ship. He
58:30
y'all seen a special when he was talking about how that older nigga stole his
58:32
joke and he didn't want to sell it or whatever, and the nigga did
58:37
it anyway and so prappy with it. He turned it into material to use
58:40
on stageat Williams. Just go on podcast and bitch about it in such as
58:45
the entertainer stole your joke. That would have been fired to say that in
58:49
a special. Dude like that a great prolific writer, but you're not.
58:55
You know what I'm saying. You did too, Did y'all like Snoop had
59:00
like a comedy show? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nigga dona rawlings ate
59:04
that nigga's lunch on there, bro That nigga cat was looking like an amateur
59:08
on that. Larry went on that ship and tore that shut. I thought
59:13
it was a bad audience, yeah, because Pat didn't do that well.
59:15
So I'm just like, oh, maybe they just want some don That might
59:19
be the best comedian I've ever seen live. Bro, Bro that nigga you
59:22
want to talk about last per minutes? Oh, that's what we saw and
59:27
when we went Yeah, I remember prov Yeah my bad, go ahead,
59:30
you're good. I ain't shit today. Yeah yeah. No. Honestly,
59:34
Bro, like after everything you said and just remembering the interview and everything,
59:37
like, it just kind of seems like to me that he didn't figure out
59:43
how to work the system the way that it was satisfactory to him, and
59:50
he's just bitter that he wasn't able to maneuver the way he wanted a maneuver,
59:53
you know what I'm saying, because and honestly, Bro, I can
59:55
kind of even relate to that from the point of view of like it took
59:59
me a while because like when you start doing music, you kind of see
1:00:01
like what the main path is and if you're not cool with it and you
1:00:06
don't understand what other avenues you can take, you can have that mentality too,
1:00:09
Like, Bro, I'm not about to be here like the equivalent of
1:00:12
the dress thing, you know what I mean. It's like I'm not about
1:00:14
to be here throwing a dress up. I can get my music off,
1:00:16
you know what I mean, But it don't it ain't always A or B.
1:00:20
You know what I'm saying. There's other paths, And like you said,
1:00:22
Bro, you figure out your own path, you sit in it,
1:00:25
you're happy about it, and you do your thing like what Dave Chappelle did.
1:00:29
Bro, he said, now I'm not gonna do it this way.
1:00:30
I'm gonna do it this way. And he's doing it in a non bitter
1:00:35
you know, he's just living in his thing. He's super successful and he's
1:00:38
making it happen. Bro. That's why I like, it's just weird.
1:00:43
Brokaw has made so much money off in his tours. He's selling out a
1:00:45
rings. It has to be personal. It has to be like you have
1:00:51
some kind of like internal shit going on with you. Bro, you're massively
1:00:55
successful you had. I don't know if he's I mean, I'm sure a
1:01:00
lot of people still do. But he has the respect of his peers,
1:01:04
like comedically like people. Yeah, you know him as like one of the
1:01:07
greats. You got ten kids, You drive whatever car you want. Even
1:01:12
though this nigga lied and said he has every car that Prince has, Like
1:01:15
okay, him and Prince. This nigga said he known Prince and he was
1:01:19
twelve years old, he moved. He moved to Florida when he was thirteen,
1:01:23
though, So what Prince was coming to Dane, Ohioan and fucking hooping
1:01:28
with your nigga shit? Or maybe it's that complex where he has that that
1:01:38
regret that he didn't do the things that people did to get where they are.
1:01:43
You know what I mean, I have no regrets. If I'm up
1:01:45
fifty million, I'm fifty you know what I'm saying me neither neither. If
1:01:50
you're doing one hundred cities all tours, I'll say, fifty bands a show,
1:01:54
he gotta be making five million a year, you know what I'm saying.
1:01:59
And that's just all ticket sales. He doing merch and whatever side.
1:02:06
What do you do about, bro For nineteen years you've been getting it like
1:02:09
this? Yeah, man, it's like you do your own thing. You
1:02:16
let people do their own thing, and if it's whatever, it's not for
1:02:20
you. It's just not for you, you know what I'm saying. Like,
1:02:22
you don't got to bring down somebody else's empire to bring years up.
1:02:24
You know, everybody can live in that space. Is something me and Joe
1:02:27
was talking about recently too, just about like gatekeeping ship period, you know,
1:02:31
like just information or different things. It's like, bro, what's the
1:02:35
point Because I can, I can give you the game, It don't mean
1:02:37
that you're gonna have the same drive and will that I got, and you're
1:02:39
gonna make it happen the same way I am. You know what I'm saying.
1:02:43
It don't matter. It don't make no difference to me. I still
1:02:45
got my lane, you know. But yeah, man, Dog again,
1:02:51
appreciate you coming on before we get off. I wanted to say this because
1:02:53
and it might not translate to the podcast, Dog, but it's so hilarious.
1:02:58
I went out to a comedy show that you were hosting. It was
1:03:01
like a comedy competition. Dog and two of the dudes that was like in
1:03:06
like one of the like elimination rounds. It was two white comedians, right,
1:03:09
and they come up to the stage to like go through the voting portion,
1:03:14
right, and Jari just really Jar's like walking to the judges and like
1:03:19
it's like in between like the music break, it's like real nonchalant, like
1:03:22
he just brings the mic up real quick and he's like, all right,
1:03:25
man, now it's time for the Battle of squid Billies, y'all. My
1:03:30
gosh, Bro, I it in their room last like didn't even say it,
1:03:38
like it was a group just like Yo Battle the squid Bullies. I'm
1:03:42
like, Yo was so money yea believe that ship man? And I'm looking
1:03:51
around like it was like two or three people laughing. I'm like, there's
1:03:52
no way y'all ain't laughing. So funny like fucking with comedians like in environments
1:03:59
like that, because competition it's adds like an extra layer of nerves, like
1:04:02
when you fuck with them, they don't be like in the moment because yeah,
1:04:08
yeah, so nervous. So like that's why I'd be fucking with them
1:04:11
niggas, but like not of mind them, Like look, yeah, relaxed.
1:04:15
You know that's funny? Is that funniness? Bro? Like Like like
1:04:19
I was saying about comedy in our group chat and I'll kind of like wrap
1:04:23
it up with this, Like comedy and like skateboarding are two things where it's
1:04:27
like nobody can tell you you're good or not. You can either do it
1:04:30
or you can't, and the results speak for themselves, right, And like
1:04:32
even in that little moment, Bro, you're hosting a comedy competition, you're
1:04:35
shining just how funny you are you know what I'm saying, And going back
1:04:40
to the Cat Williams thing, It's like, bro people funnier they not,
1:04:42
regardless of what you say, regardless of what you want to spend the narrative
1:04:45
as if you got it, you can make it happen for sure. Before
1:04:50
we let you go, Jar, you want to let the people know where
1:04:53
they can find you. Anything you got going on coming up, y'all can
1:04:57
find me on social media. Jarry Knows is there in the corner. You
1:05:00
see it. That's on everything? And yeah, man, every I just
1:05:05
started a room. Well I didn't start. I'm picking up a room.
1:05:10
Another comedian started. He just moved out to Austin. He about to blow
1:05:12
up. It's a the name Jake ricca Uh. It's a Barley and Vine.
1:05:17
That's the name of the venue. It's in the Mill District in Orlando.
1:05:20
Every Thursday, it starts at eight. Every Saturday it starts at ten.
1:05:25
Y'all pull up and I'm producing Don't Tell comedy here in Orlando now.
1:05:29
So we're gonna have a lot of secret shows popping up all over different venues
1:05:33
and a lot of cool spots. So if y'all y'all into that kind of
1:05:35
thing. We got celebrity droppings on that all the time, like big Name.
1:05:40
I think Bill Bird just did the Don't Tell in Boston. Like anytime
1:05:44
celebrities being town, you never know who you want to see. So I
1:05:46
mean, just tap in, follow me, and keep up with what's going
1:05:49
on. Man. Facts, Man, We're definitely gonna be tapped in.
1:05:53
I'm gonna be coming out to a lot more shows up in there. A
1:05:55
few recently, but definitely gonna be tapped in. It's I'm excited to see
1:06:00
what's gonna happen with you, bro. You know, you're definitely doing your
1:06:01
thing, and everything's just been lining up. Like Quincy said, you know
1:06:04
where you started in the grind, You're not where you finished, but you're
1:06:08
in the grind and you're making it happen. Best of luck where everything that's
1:06:12
that's coming up with this new year twenty twenty four. You know what I'm
1:06:15
saying. I know you've been just formulating your plan, bro, and and
1:06:17
it's dope to see it just coming to fruition, you know what I mean.
1:06:20
I appreciate you boys, man, Thanks for having me. Yes sir,
1:06:25
everybody else, stay better say it. Don't put pusty dot no,
1:07:59
puspy dot no, puny, puspy dot no, pusty not at nothing,
1:09:09
after a thing, after a