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170. [Georgia] Double Murder in Marietta · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and get into this week's episode.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to delay any further. On September twelfth,
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, in Marietta, Georgia, a young girl headed
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Speaker 2: over to her friend Samantha Brady's house to see if
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Speaker 2: she could come out and play. Now, when she arrived
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Speaker 2: at the home, she goes, she knocks on the door
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Speaker 2: and she's expecting, you know, thirteen year old Samantha or
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Speaker 2: her mother Sharon to answer the door. Whoever, she doesn't
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Speaker 2: hear either one of them. She hears their Samantha's three
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Speaker 2: year old sister on the other side, and she's saying,
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Speaker 2: I can't wake up mom and sister. So the girl,
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Speaker 2: she's about Samantha age twelve or thirteen years old, she's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: there's something. She's old enough to know there's something seriously wrong,
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Speaker 2: you know. So she's concerned. She heads back to her
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Speaker 2: house to get her mom and tells her that she
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Speaker 2: thinks that Samantha might be in trouble. So the mom
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Speaker 2: is concerned as well, so she heads over to try to,
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Speaker 2: you know, get in the door see if there's what's
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Speaker 2: going on. And the three year old she's trying to explain,
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Speaker 2: like the three year old how to open the door,
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Speaker 2: but it's three year old, Like it's a lost cause,
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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so we have a three year old,
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Speaker 2: so yeah, good luck to have him.
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Speaker 1: We have them high locks on the door anyway too.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so well this was nineteen eighty six, there's
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Speaker 2: probably no.
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Speaker 3: Child proofing, no child proofing all, just.
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Speaker 2: A free for all. So anyway, so once they can't
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Speaker 2: get the door open, they call the police to see
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Speaker 2: if they can come assist and just check on everybody
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Speaker 2: and make sure everybody's okay. I'm sure they just thought.
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Speaker 2: They weren't thinking what's gonna happen. Like they probably just
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Speaker 2: you know, a little concern like, okay, maybe mom's asleep,
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Speaker 2: maybe the thirteen year old, you know, they sleep like something. Anyways,
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Speaker 2: police arrive on the scene.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess not that in nineteen eighty six, you
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Speaker 1: would think, yeah, something.
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Speaker 2: Besides that, police arrive on the scene and enter the
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Speaker 2: home and immediately are horrified by what they see. So
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Speaker 2: on the couch is like lying neked is thirteen year
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Speaker 2: old Samantha, and she is covered in blood and not breathing.
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Speaker 2: They make their way through the home and upstairs they
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Speaker 2: find forty year old Sharon Brady, also deceased. Now thankfully,
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Speaker 2: the three year old, while clearly upset and obviously traumatized
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Speaker 2: by what she went through, she is unharmed. Now. Based
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Speaker 2: on the crime scene, it was clear that this was
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Speaker 2: a double homicide.
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Speaker 1: When investigators arrive on the scene, they are also horrified
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Speaker 1: by what they're finding. It was clear to them that
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Speaker 1: both the mother and the daughter had been raped. It
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Speaker 1: was clear that they had been both been beaten and
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Speaker 1: stabbed to death. Again. The three year old, she wasn't
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Speaker 1: harm There was no assault on her of any sort.
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Speaker 1: It didn't seem so that's the one good thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Samantha was completely nude, while her mother's Sharon, had on
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Speaker 1: a blouse that was pulled up to her neck. Both
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Speaker 1: bodies were completely covered in blood, with pools of blood
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Speaker 1: around him. They were quickly able to identify how the
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Speaker 1: killer got in the town home because on the second
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Speaker 1: floor there was a children's bedroom and they found that
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Speaker 1: the screen had been cut, and this is where they
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Speaker 1: believe the killer entered the house, which I find it
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Speaker 1: odd that he would cut the screen though, instead of
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Speaker 1: just popping it loose or something like that. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you couldn't get it popped out.
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Speaker 1: Unless the window was open and he just sliced it
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Speaker 1: open and crawled in.
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Speaker 2: It could have been the window open. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: was nineteen eighty six. It's also on the second floor,
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Speaker 2: so they probably didn't think any like you would think someone.
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Speaker 1: Well, if he pops it off, the wind could blow
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Speaker 1: it and it could fall. Somebody might notice that he's
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Speaker 1: up there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, the front door was locked so they looked around
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Speaker 1: and found that the back door was unlocked and there
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Speaker 1: was also blood on the door knob, indicating that he
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Speaker 1: had left through the back door and had left it unlocked.
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Speaker 1: The murder weapon was not found in the home. However,
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Speaker 1: a sheath for the knife was found on the kitchen floor.
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Speaker 1: This gave them a description of the knife, which would
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Speaker 1: have been a thin blade about seven and a half
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Speaker 1: inches long. They did call in the GBI, which is
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Speaker 1: the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, to assist. They helped collect evidence,
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Speaker 1: including samples, fingerprints, and a bloody footprint that was near
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Speaker 1: Sharon's body that did not belong to anyone living in
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Speaker 1: the home. Now, the fact that the but the footprint
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Speaker 1: they found it was like a barefoot It wasn't like
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Speaker 1: a shoeprint or anything. So the assailant, they know that
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Speaker 1: the assailant wasn't wearing any shoes and to them investigators,
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Speaker 1: this indicated that it was somebody that possibly most probably
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Speaker 1: lived nearby and they came over with no shoes on
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Speaker 1: because they didn't have to go very far.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, you're not going to be taking
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Speaker 2: your time walking around barefoot if you have to go
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Speaker 2: very far, like it's just not gonna happen, you know.
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Speaker 2: So as they work out or as the word got
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Speaker 2: out to the community of what happened to Sharon and Samantha,
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Speaker 2: like everyone's completely shocked that this could happen to them.
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Speaker 2: Sharon was known to be a great, in loving mother,
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Speaker 2: so for someone to come in and do this to
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Speaker 2: her family was just completely unexpected. Now, Samantha was described
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Speaker 2: by her friends as energetic and fun. Now while they
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Speaker 2: are processing that crime scene and looking at leads, they
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Speaker 2: received the autopsy report. Now, the autopsy report confirms what
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Speaker 2: they suspected, that this was a very brutal and long attack. Now,
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Speaker 2: the cause of death was blood loss due to the
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Speaker 2: stab wounds. So they were stabbed multiple times and then
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Speaker 2: slowly bled out. So it was like this was not
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Speaker 2: a quick like Unfortunately, this is not a quick death.
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Speaker 2: This was them slowly bleeding out from all those injuries.
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Speaker 2: It is also confirmed what they believed, which was both
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Speaker 2: had been raped and they were able to recover biological
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Speaker 2: evidence from Sharon and Samantha. However, it's nineteen eighty six,
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Speaker 2: so they don't have like DNA testing technology. Was just
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Speaker 2: like just in the early early like, oh, we might
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Speaker 2: have something here that we can do something with, and
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Speaker 2: so at this point they're just yeah. So at this point,
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Speaker 2: police forces around the country are just saving what they
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Speaker 2: have in hopes that someday this technology will be developed
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Speaker 2: and they can use these samples. Now. I believe the
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Speaker 2: only thing they can tell at this time from the
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Speaker 2: from the biological sample is if the person is a
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Speaker 2: secretor or non secretor, meaning they secrete their blood type
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Speaker 2: in their semen, and like, I think it's twenty percent
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Speaker 2: or secretors in eighty percent or non secretor, so it's
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Speaker 2: not great, but if you could at least limit down
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Speaker 2: to twenty percent if it was, so, that's about all
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Speaker 2: I think they can tell this point from those samples
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Speaker 2: that they were able to obtain.
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Speaker 1: As investigator are trying to determine when this crime occurred,
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Speaker 1: they interview the neighbors because it's a town home, they're
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Speaker 1: close by, and they only had one woman report that
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Speaker 1: she heard a scream from that town home when arout
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Speaker 1: two am, but she didn't call the plate, the police
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Speaker 1: or investigate any further because there was also a thunderstorm
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Speaker 1: that had just rolled through or was rolling through, and
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Speaker 1: she thought maybe someone woke up screaming about the thunder
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Speaker 1: and the lightning.
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Speaker 2: Well, and if you had a southern thunderstorm, they are
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Speaker 2: they some of them are.
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Speaker 1: Some of them are really scary.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they're not as scary as the ones out here.
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Speaker 1: No, because the ones out here, I think everyone is
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Speaker 1: going to have hail.
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Speaker 2: Yes, out here, it's like they come in real fast.
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Speaker 2: But they're very very intense there. But you know, like
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Speaker 2: a like down further south, like when Louisiana where we
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Speaker 2: lived and stuff, and the same thing with Georgia. The
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Speaker 2: thunder and the lightning and it lasts a long time,
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Speaker 2: like you could have like hours of it just booming
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Speaker 2: out there. And so if you know there's kids living there,
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Speaker 2: you could think, oh, some little girl, you know, one
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Speaker 2: of the girls maybe woke up screaming because she's scared
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Speaker 2: of the thunder or something like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are nice nap times and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then also that noise probably drowned out anything
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Speaker 2: else she might have been able to hear after the fact,
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Speaker 2: after she heard that initial scream around two am.
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Speaker 1: Now, no one else saw or heard anything that night,
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Speaker 1: but they do. Investigators now believe that they were murdered
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Speaker 1: at about two o'clock in the morning. Just based on
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Speaker 1: this as the only or witness.
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Speaker 2: Testimonyah, it makes sense that this would be narrow down
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Speaker 2: their timeline as best as they could.
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Speaker 1: They do have a witness, but that is the three
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Speaker 1: year old. Her name is Brandy, so they bring her
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Speaker 1: in to try and see if she can remember anything
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Speaker 1: or point investigators into any direction as to who might
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Speaker 1: have done this. When they interviewed the three year old,
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Speaker 1: she does state that daddy did it, but she also
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Speaker 1: says that her father shot Samantha. But there's no gun
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Speaker 1: involved in this crime at all.
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Speaker 2: What I don't I don't know where what what's this
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Speaker 2: three year old scene that like, like I'm trying to think,
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Speaker 2: like our three year old what he would have seen
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Speaker 2: to even come up with that, you know, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: Like maybe maybe she's maybe she saw like a movie
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Speaker 2: or TV show or something. It's all the blood and
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Speaker 2: thought and she'd seen a show where someone got shot
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Speaker 2: in that there was blood, is like I can think.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, our two year old comes up with all
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Speaker 1: kinds of stuff.
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Speaker 2: So she's not too yet.
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Speaker 1: I know, she's talking and all kinds of she says
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Speaker 1: the wrong thing, but you can suss it out whenever.
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Speaker 2: She no, But I'm just saying, like, now, our five
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Speaker 2: year old, however, she comes up.
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Speaker 3: With some.
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Speaker 2: She's she's a she's she comes up with some stuff.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, but a three year old, it would be
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Speaker 2: hard to It would be very difficult to get anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Well, she said that he shot her, so we're gonna
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Speaker 1: rule him out. Yeah, Like, well, maybe she doesn't know
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Speaker 1: the right word. However, police do take her statement seriously
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Speaker 1: enough that they begin to look in the Sharon's estranged
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Speaker 1: husband and the father of the children. And this person
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Speaker 1: is Don Brady.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got to look into the strange husband.
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Speaker 2: Although well and actually already they're probably thinking no because
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Speaker 2: like because of the fact that there was the thirteen
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Speaker 2: year old daughter was involved in that way. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that would be like one sick like motherfucker.
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Speaker 1: You know, there are some seques out there, though, So they.
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Speaker 2: Bring in Don Brady to interview him about the murders. Now,
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Speaker 2: they were taken it back because he didn't seem that
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Speaker 2: upset that his soon to be ex wife and thirteen
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Speaker 2: year old daughter had been raped and murdered. But they
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Speaker 2: kind of were like, I can see how maybe you
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be. I mean, you should be upset if your
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Speaker 2: ex wife, but you know, depending on how bad the
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Speaker 2: relationship was, you may not be show visually that you're
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Speaker 2: that upset about the x wife, but your daughter this
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Speaker 2: happening to her like they expected a bigger reaction out
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Speaker 2: of him. But you can't always tell by what people.
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Speaker 2: Some people shut down, some people are extremely vocal and stuff,
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Speaker 2: so it's hard to say. But they proceed asking him
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Speaker 2: about his whereabouts at night, and he tells them that
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Speaker 2: he was with his girlfriend and his mother watching a
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Speaker 2: football game. Although those are two very suspect people to
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Speaker 2: have used your alibi to me the.
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Speaker 1: Girlfriend and the mother watching football on again, and they.
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Speaker 2: Would totally lie for he also gave them so. But
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Speaker 2: on top of that, he also gave them permission to
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Speaker 2: search his home and his car, and he seemed very
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Speaker 2: cooperative with police. Now they were able to verify his
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Speaker 2: alibi with both his mother and his girlfriend, and they
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Speaker 2: also found no evidence of a murder weapon or that
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Speaker 2: he had been involved in the crimes, like there was
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Speaker 2: no there was such a bloody crime scene, you would
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Speaker 2: think he would have some sort of evidence in his home,
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Speaker 2: in his car or something like that. Now. While his
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Speaker 2: response to finding out about the murders was unsettling, the
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Speaker 2: only real evidence they had against him was the fact
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Speaker 2: that the three year old said that Daddy did it,
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Speaker 2: you know, And so I mean, you can't can't arrest
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Speaker 2: somebody based on the three year olds?
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Speaker 1: Uh, you can't. No, Thank goodness.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: When speaking to Don, they did find out that Sharon
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Speaker 1: had a new boyfriend by the name of John. Don
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Speaker 1: was unimpressed with the new man in Sharon's life and
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Speaker 1: said he was a grifter and that he didn't have
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Speaker 1: a high opinion of him. Don told police a story
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Speaker 1: of how John had disappeared with his daughter Samantha for
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Speaker 1: over six hours one time, and they did finally return,
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Speaker 1: but it was troubling to done.
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Speaker 2: Yes, what is a new Yeah, you shouldn't be bringing
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Speaker 2: this this guy is like no.
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Speaker 1: No, Why why is mom letting this happen?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is this? No? And why hadn't Dad more
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Speaker 1: upset about this?
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Speaker 2: It know, of the some of the adults in this
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Speaker 2: situation are a little bit troubling to do.
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Speaker 1: Yes. They also found out that John had been living
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Speaker 1: in the home, so this would match up with the
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Speaker 1: possible possibility as to him being.
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Speaker 2: Why he could have been involved because it was the
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Speaker 2: because it was barefoots.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he was.
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Speaker 2: He was getting lost in his thoughts. Thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Investigators try to locate John, but however, they are unable
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Speaker 1: to They're getting very concerned that he might have been
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Speaker 1: the killer and had fled out of town but out
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. He calls in and says that he's living
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Speaker 1: in a halfway house in Arizona.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this will put him very.
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Speaker 2: Strange bunches do okay, Yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: This supposedly puts him very far away from the family
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Speaker 1: during their murders. They were able to confirm with the
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Speaker 1: halfway house that he was there the night of the murders.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so we've ruled out down and we've rolled out John.
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Speaker 2: Although John, we need John needs to be on the
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Speaker 2: radar of police for other reasons besides just this, because
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Speaker 2: why are you disappearing with the a twelve or thirteen
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Speaker 2: year old girl for six hours.
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Speaker 1: And you're not and nobody knows where you're.
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows where you are, and she let him live
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Speaker 2: in the house with them, So yeah, John needs to.
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Speaker 3: Be watched for sure.
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Speaker 2: So they've now ruled out the estranged husband and the boyfriend.
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Speaker 2: So they continue to ask neighbors for any type of
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Speaker 2: information or you know, does anybody know anything or is
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Speaker 2: anything like that that could come forward. Finally, a man
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Speaker 2: named man in Phillips, he comes in. He says that
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Speaker 2: they need to look into his roommate, Ronald. Now this
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Speaker 2: was interesting to police because they did believe whoever committed
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Speaker 2: the crimes was nearby since they were barefoot, and so
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Speaker 2: this neighbor was just a couple doors down, So it
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Speaker 2: was the roommate. It was Mannon, and Ronald cheared an apartment.
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Speaker 2: So investigators they say, like, hey, man, why do you
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Speaker 2: think Ronald is involved with this? Like why would you
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Speaker 2: come and tell us that your roommate did this like
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Speaker 2: horrific crime. And he said that the night of the murders,
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Speaker 2: he was in his Mannon was in his room and
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Speaker 2: Ronald came in and took a knife out of his room,
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Speaker 2: and then nobody the police hadn't released any information about
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Speaker 2: the knife. I don't even think they'd released information about
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Speaker 2: how the murders occurred. So the fact that he knew
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Speaker 2: it was a knife, and then also he explained it
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Speaker 2: he's like it was a kitchen knife, and he holds
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Speaker 2: up his hands and it was about the size that
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Speaker 2: they were, the seven and a half inches that they
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Speaker 2: thought that the knife was and everything like that. So
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Speaker 2: that was interesting to police because that was all just
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Speaker 2: under wraps. So only the killer would be aware of this,
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Speaker 2: or maybe someone who had witnessed something like that. Now
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Speaker 2: the roommate, yes.
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Speaker 1: So Mannon is trying to set up his roommate.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's we're gonna get thirsty. That's where police are.
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Speaker 2: It's a sketchy bunch living in that apartment. Okay, that
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Speaker 2: Ronald and Mannon.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, f y, I don't know about this case,
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Speaker 1: no studio, I'm learning about. This is what's going on.
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Speaker 2: It's per usual. So the roommate also said that he
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Speaker 2: heard Ronald come in a few hours later and he
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Speaker 2: took a shower in the bathroom. Mannon also told investigators
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Speaker 2: that Ronald had been in that apartment before he had
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Speaker 2: Uh they said, dislike, they were like, dude, he know
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Speaker 2: these Like does he know Sharon and Samantha in this family?
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Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, he went out he sold rugs
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Speaker 2: and so whenever they first moved in, he sold them
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Speaker 2: a rug and he actually went in and delivered it
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Speaker 2: into the apartment, So he would have been aware of
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Speaker 2: what the apartment looked like, and you know, maybe the
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Speaker 2: general setup. Plus if they if they're in townhomes, all
18:35
Speaker 2: those town homes are the same. If they have a
18:37
Speaker 2: two bedroom town home, the next one is the same thing.
18:40
Speaker 2: But maybe flipped, yes, so they're going to be aware
18:44
Speaker 2: of the layout of the apartment. Now, investigators were wondering
18:50
Speaker 2: if possibly Mannon was you know, who had had multiple
18:55
Speaker 2: run ins with the law, had lots of drug offensed fences,
18:59
Speaker 2: had a history of mintal health issues. Maybe he is
19:02
Speaker 2: trying to set up his roommate for something that he
19:06
Speaker 2: did coming over and like, hey he came in. The
19:09
Speaker 2: knife was in my room and he came and got it.
19:12
Speaker 2: Did this came rinstuff and so you know it's police
19:16
Speaker 2: are questioning, yes, or as.
19:20
Speaker 1: The kids that would say he's says.
19:23
Speaker 2: So, like we said, they just saw him as an
19:25
Speaker 2: unreliable witness. But Mannon was willing to help out as
19:30
Speaker 2: much as possible, Like he continued to talk to police,
19:32
Speaker 2: he was interviewed by them, He allowed them to go
19:35
Speaker 2: into and search the apartment. Like I mean he was
19:38
Speaker 2: very cooperative. However, they are unable, so they go over
19:42
Speaker 2: the apartment. They're looking. They're like, okay, well we need
19:44
Speaker 2: to talk to Ronald. Well, they're unable to find him,
19:47
Speaker 2: and no one had seen him since the morning of
19:50
Speaker 2: the murder. So they start asking around the town homes
19:54
Speaker 2: and see if anybody had seen him, you know, that
19:57
Speaker 2: morning or anything like that, and witness is say that
20:00
Speaker 2: they saw him going to the laundry mat that morning
20:03
Speaker 2: and that he was carrying two bags of clothes. So
20:06
Speaker 2: that's the last he was seen.
20:08
Speaker 1: Last known answers of Ronald in that area. Now, investigators
20:12
Speaker 1: continue to look for Ronald and they found out that
20:15
Speaker 1: he was already in jail. He had been arrested on
20:19
Speaker 1: an outstander and warrant for burglary. Now with all this information,
20:22
Speaker 1: they were able to attain a search warrant to take
20:25
Speaker 1: blood and hair samples from both Manning and Ronald. This
20:30
Speaker 1: only confused the investigation more because they couldn't rule out
20:33
Speaker 1: either one because they both had the same blood type.
20:38
Speaker 3: Yes, so so here we are.
20:40
Speaker 1: Yep, they're able to talk to Ronald in jail. However,
20:45
Speaker 1: he quickly asked for an attorney and no more questions
20:48
Speaker 1: were answered.
20:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is not. He's the quick to attorney guy.
20:53
Speaker 2: He's like, I want an attorney. I don't care what
20:55
Speaker 2: it makes me look like. I'm not talking to you guys.
20:57
Speaker 1: You guys ain't framing me. To add to the confusion,
21:00
Speaker 1: just a few months later, Man and Phillips would be
21:03
Speaker 1: found dead. He had been hit by a train. The
21:07
Speaker 1: official police report said that he stepped in front of
21:09
Speaker 1: a train.
21:11
Speaker 2: However, there's questions to yes, was he pushed. They were like,
21:16
Speaker 2: I do feel I'm gonna tell I. We'll talk about
21:21
Speaker 2: mannon later, but yeah, they they won't. They're not really
21:27
Speaker 2: looking back on it now. At the time, of course,
21:29
Speaker 2: they didn't think anything of it. They thought he just
21:31
Speaker 2: has and he did have mental health issues, so maybe
21:33
Speaker 2: he possibly did. He did have drug issues, so.
21:36
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he did it. He felt guilty in a
21:38
Speaker 1: moment of so brise.
21:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was kind of like maybe he himself, Yeah,
21:42
Speaker 2: maybe he feels bad about it. But then there's another
21:44
Speaker 2: people that looking back and there were like, well, maybe
21:46
Speaker 2: he was being he got shoved in front of a
21:49
Speaker 2: train too, because he knew too much and he was
21:52
Speaker 2: talking like they don't really know the official police report
21:56
Speaker 2: just says that he got stepped in, he stepped in front.
21:59
Speaker 1: Of it, without any additional evidence, and now the main
22:04
Speaker 1: person that was talking to them is dead. The investigation
22:08
Speaker 1: is a standstill. So the investigation quickly went cold after that.
22:14
Speaker 2: Quick quick week, quick week went cold. Love twe love, okay,
22:20
Speaker 2: all right, So the original investigator would continue to submit
22:23
Speaker 2: the evidence into databases for testing as the years went on,
22:27
Speaker 2: like doing doing his rounds, doing the best he can,
22:30
Speaker 2: you know, but there just wasn't like enough advancements to
22:34
Speaker 2: find the killer. Now as the years went on. Brandy,
22:37
Speaker 2: you know, she was the three year old at the time,
22:41
Speaker 2: was with her father. However, he died shortly after due
22:43
Speaker 2: to cancer. I mean, like this girl just she's a
22:47
Speaker 2: rough go I mean, it's.
22:48
Speaker 3: Just terrible, tough.
22:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible.
22:51
Speaker 2: So she ended up being raised by a foster family,
22:54
Speaker 2: and she did she went on to get married and
22:56
Speaker 2: have children, I believe, So she did do all right,
22:59
Speaker 2: but she just had a very hard time there after
23:03
Speaker 2: her mom and sister were murdered and then her dad
23:05
Speaker 2: dies shortly after. So she but she never forgot what
23:09
Speaker 2: happened to her sister and mother. Obviously, like it was
23:11
Speaker 2: a traumatic event for her. So as the decades go by,
23:14
Speaker 2: she reaches out to that original investigator who's now retired,
23:18
Speaker 2: and she's like, are we ever going to solve this?
23:21
Speaker 2: Like do you do you have any hope of doing this?
23:24
Speaker 2: And he was honest with her and he's like, I
23:26
Speaker 2: don't know. He's like, I think it can be, but
23:28
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is ever gonna We're ever
23:30
Speaker 2: going to see a resolution for this. Well, but he did,
23:34
Speaker 2: He said he did think about the case often. He
23:36
Speaker 2: still had a picture of Samantha and like this really
23:39
Speaker 2: bothered him that he could not solve this case. Yeah,
23:44
Speaker 2: So finally in twenty twelve, there was some hope because
23:46
Speaker 2: there was a new cold case unit starting up and
23:49
Speaker 2: he knew the investigator leading this and asked him to
23:51
Speaker 2: please like contact him and say, can you just take
23:54
Speaker 2: a look and see if you can find anything on
23:56
Speaker 2: Sharon and Samantha's murder. Which it's crazy to me, like
24:00
Speaker 2: this story like listening, I know, there's like fun. You know,
24:04
Speaker 2: there's all those rape kits that have never been processed,
24:06
Speaker 2: Like there's whole organizations trying to pay It's like this
24:10
Speaker 2: is like top this should be like top tier. It's
24:13
Speaker 2: like concerns that there's rape kits and evidence from violent
24:19
Speaker 2: murders that are just sitting in evidence closets, but because
24:23
Speaker 2: the town doesn't have the funding, they're never going to
24:27
Speaker 2: get processed into these with all this new technology, Like,
24:30
Speaker 2: that's just disturbing to me that there's people just out
24:32
Speaker 2: there that got away with this shit.
24:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, even the ones that they do catch here lately,
24:36
Speaker 1: they're just pleading down to a lesser charge and they're
24:38
Speaker 1: getting out anyway. It's like you're processing all these kits
24:41
Speaker 1: to put these people in jail, and judges are just like, okay, yeah,
24:44
Speaker 1: we'll take that plea off you go two five.
24:48
Speaker 2: Well, yes, there is that. But also the fact that
24:50
Speaker 2: we just have all these rape kits and all these
24:55
Speaker 2: cold cases, but we don't have the money. Apparently, it
24:57
Speaker 2: seems like that would be something that we prioritize.
25:00
Speaker 1: Yes, it's something you should prioritize, Yes, and also put
25:03
Speaker 1: them in jail for the fifteen twenty five.
25:05
Speaker 2: They just put them in jail forever. If you like,
25:08
Speaker 2: I don't have any hope for if you're a rapist,
25:10
Speaker 2: I have no there's no hope for you. You're like
25:12
Speaker 2: a child predator. There's no hope for you, Like, we're
25:15
Speaker 2: done with you, You're never you're gonna do this again. This
25:17
Speaker 2: is who you are. Like, I don't I don't want
25:19
Speaker 2: you on the streets. You're a terrible person.
25:22
Speaker 1: No, I think they ought to get the same treatment
25:25
Speaker 1: as I believe pedophile should get.
25:27
Speaker 2: Yes, the only good thing is there is prison justice.
25:31
Speaker 2: So thank god for thank god for the other criminals.
25:35
Speaker 1: Yes, the prison sex offenders.
25:37
Speaker 2: They sex offenders and specifically child sex offenders will get.
25:42
Speaker 1: Some prison justice. Yes, hopefully they get the business end
25:45
Speaker 1: of a penis well, oh my god, Stewards while they're
25:48
Speaker 1: in the shower, and what if they're into it though,
25:50
Speaker 1: we don't. Okay, we got to stop.
25:52
Speaker 3: We're going too far, too far.
25:54
Speaker 1: The new investigator began looking into the case, and he
25:58
Speaker 1: was also motivated to push this forward due to the
26:01
Speaker 1: violent crimes against Samantha and Sharon.
26:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, after he reviewed it, he was like so disturbed
26:06
Speaker 2: by what happened. Like, yeah, he's like, this is one
26:08
Speaker 2: needs to be priority.
26:11
Speaker 1: He heads over to the evidence room and he's hopeful
26:14
Speaker 1: that he'll find all the evidence stored.
26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is almost thirty years later. This is nineteen
26:20
Speaker 2: eighty six to twenty twelve, Like this is would that
26:23
Speaker 2: be twenty four thirteen years, thirty four?
26:27
Speaker 3: No, No, it's late.
26:30
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do.
26:33
Speaker 1: It.
26:33
Speaker 2: Would be twenty six twenty six years?
26:36
Speaker 1: Well, it's not there. Something had happened to it. It's missing. Now.
26:40
Speaker 1: This is a devastating blow to the investigation because without
26:43
Speaker 1: any of the evidence in this case, there's nothing they
26:46
Speaker 1: can do. However, he did remember that the original investigator
26:50
Speaker 1: said that he had submitted all of the evidence from
26:53
Speaker 1: the sexual assault to the state crime Lab, so his
26:56
Speaker 1: last hope was that they still had some of this
26:58
Speaker 1: evidence that he had sent to him. He calls up
27:01
Speaker 1: the state crime Lab. They look up nineteen eighty six
27:04
Speaker 1: and they find both sexual assault kits as well as
27:08
Speaker 1: the blood sample from the main suspect, which was Ronald Kyles.
27:12
Speaker 1: With this physical evidence and the advancements in technology, they
27:16
Speaker 1: were able to run the test to see if there
27:18
Speaker 1: was a match. The investigator did not want to wait
27:21
Speaker 1: on the state crime lab, so he was able to
27:23
Speaker 1: get approval to take the evidence to a private lab
27:25
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City.
27:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, all these private labs are the ones that are
27:29
Speaker 2: doing this genealogy and stuff like that. They're the ones
27:36
Speaker 2: that are. So you also got to have money for that.
27:38
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of them do some like pro bono
27:41
Speaker 2: work or whatever. Do it well, yeah, free, But.
27:44
Speaker 1: You want to get your name out there so more
27:46
Speaker 1: people have.
27:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you go find who the Golden State
27:49
Speaker 2: killer is, you can probably get your lab out there.
27:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name, and you're going to make all kinds
27:54
Speaker 1: of money.
27:54
Speaker 3: Yes.
27:56
Speaker 1: The investigator personally flew the evidence and met with the
28:00
Speaker 1: lab technicians who would be running the test to show
28:03
Speaker 1: them the crime scene and talk about Samantha and Sharon.
28:06
Speaker 1: He wanted these technicians to be involved in this have
28:09
Speaker 1: like a personal stake, so he laid out all the evidence,
28:11
Speaker 1: showed them pictures of the mother and the daughter and
28:15
Speaker 1: all this. Now, after seeing this, they were extremely motivated
28:19
Speaker 1: to get the sampling done, and within two weeks they
28:21
Speaker 1: came back and found that it was a DNA match
28:24
Speaker 1: to Ronald Kyles as the killer.
28:27
Speaker 2: See see this is where I'm going to say justice
28:30
Speaker 2: for Mannon. The poor guy. Yes he had problems, Yes,
28:35
Speaker 2: Yes he was he on drugs?
28:36
Speaker 3: Yes?
28:37
Speaker 2: Did he have mental health issues? Yes? Was he also
28:40
Speaker 2: frequently in jail. Also, Yes, but he came forward and
28:44
Speaker 2: he's like, my freaking roommate is sketchy, and they didn't
28:49
Speaker 2: take him. I don't think they take took him as
28:51
Speaker 2: seriously as they should have. I mean, I understand they're
28:54
Speaker 2: looking at them like, Okay, he's he might be trying
28:57
Speaker 2: to set it, but it's just like and he might
28:59
Speaker 2: have been pushed in front of that train.
29:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ronal might have packed it and said, hey, let's
29:03
Speaker 1: go get some drugs and then yes, pushed him right
29:06
Speaker 1: in front of the train.
29:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:06
Speaker 2: I mean like they just didn't take him seriously. And
29:09
Speaker 2: he he pinpoint, like he pointed them to the actual murder,
29:14
Speaker 2: but without any like they searched the apartment and stuff,
29:18
Speaker 2: so I guess they didn't find anything. He must have
29:20
Speaker 2: been cleaned it up well enough, or maybe they didn't.
29:22
Speaker 2: They didn't take the they didn't take man in serious enough.
29:25
Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't process the crime scene well or the
29:28
Speaker 2: apartment appropriately. You know, they just looked around and didn't
29:31
Speaker 2: really do like take samples from the drain or something
29:34
Speaker 2: like that. But I don't know what they could get back.
29:37
Speaker 1: I mean, they could collect that, they wouldn't have been
29:39
Speaker 1: able to do anything with it.
29:40
Speaker 2: They could have tested it for their blood type, for
29:45
Speaker 2: Sharon and Samantha's blood time.
29:47
Speaker 1: Oh in his bathroom.
29:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in his bathroom, I'm saying, but I don't
29:51
Speaker 2: know what the level was, but I just felt like
29:53
Speaker 2: they should have. I felt bad for Manning because he
29:56
Speaker 2: was right on this and he came forward to do
30:00
Speaker 2: the right thing, and he ends up, you know, did
30:04
Speaker 2: getting hit by train.
30:05
Speaker 1: We lived and been a schmuck after that though.
30:10
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but he did the right thing, you know,
30:13
Speaker 2: and he probably had a little bit of a cloud
30:14
Speaker 2: over him from coming bringing brave enough to I mean,
30:17
Speaker 2: he he'd had many runnings with the lawn and he
30:19
Speaker 2: was brave enough to come forward, like right, there is
30:21
Speaker 2: a huge thing to come talk to police because he
30:25
Speaker 2: saw how terrible this, Yeah, how terrible this. Yeah. He
30:31
Speaker 2: wasn't like some criminal mastermind. He just broke into a
30:35
Speaker 2: house and did this. Like there was no thinking it through,
30:39
Speaker 2: I don't think. But anyways, the guy, the guy comes forward,
30:42
Speaker 2: does all this and then he's still not taking that
30:45
Speaker 2: seriously about it. Lets him come into his apartment, for
30:47
Speaker 2: God's sake, like he probably.
30:49
Speaker 3: Had drugs in there quite possibly.
30:52
Speaker 2: Anyway, So justice for Mannon, Justice for Mannon. I don't
30:56
Speaker 2: know what else he did. Maybe he was a terrible
30:58
Speaker 2: person outside of that, but he did do the right
31:01
Speaker 2: thing with this. Yes, So police they go and track
31:04
Speaker 2: down Ronald Kyle's and he is currently in jail serving
31:07
Speaker 2: time for unrelated to assault charge. He's one of these people
31:10
Speaker 2: should have never been let out again after so many times,
31:13
Speaker 2: like three strike sure out situation. Anyways, they tell him
31:17
Speaker 2: that he is going to be arrested in charge with
31:19
Speaker 2: the rape and murders of Samantha and Sharon, and then
31:22
Speaker 2: they ask him for a new sample, you know, because
31:25
Speaker 2: obviously they have the old sample, but they want a
31:28
Speaker 2: new sample that they collected at that time under all
31:31
Speaker 2: the proper circumstances to test against the sexual assault kits. Anyways,
31:39
Speaker 2: of course he declines, He's like, no, I want a lawyer,
31:43
Speaker 2: not doing it. Well, anyways, they're like, well it doesn't matter.
31:46
Speaker 2: We already have a warrant for your freaking sample. We
31:48
Speaker 2: were just trying to Yeah, we were just trying to
31:51
Speaker 2: give you a chance to do the right thing. So anyways,
31:54
Speaker 2: so they get that new swab and they are able
31:57
Speaker 2: to confirm that it was it matched to Ronald Kyles.
32:03
Speaker 2: So after all these times, like Ronald has denied this,
32:07
Speaker 2: Ronald's always asking for a lawyer and everything that. So
32:10
Speaker 2: they're getting prepared to like take this to trial and
32:12
Speaker 2: it should be like a slam dunk case at this point.
32:15
Speaker 2: But to their surprise, when presented with all of the evidence,
32:19
Speaker 2: Ronald Kyles actually decided to go ahead and plead guilty
32:23
Speaker 2: to the rape and murders.
32:25
Speaker 1: Yes.
32:26
Speaker 2: Now, the reason that he did this because, like I said,
32:28
Speaker 2: it's been almost thirty years by the time this has
32:32
Speaker 2: all happened. So whenever he did his latest crime spree
32:35
Speaker 2: in burglaries or assaults and everything like that, he was
32:38
Speaker 2: actually living in Pennsylvania, so his family was in Pennsylvania,
32:42
Speaker 2: so they're able to visit him in prison, Like no
32:45
Speaker 2: one should visit this motherfucker, like write him off. He
32:48
Speaker 2: is a terrible him being. So that was part of
32:51
Speaker 2: the reason that he went ahead and pled guilty because
32:53
Speaker 2: who knows, he might have already going to be in
32:55
Speaker 2: prison for he was sixty three years old at this time.
32:58
Speaker 1: Whenever they Yeah, so they left him in a prison
33:00
Speaker 1: that he was comfortable and they didn't move him down
33:02
Speaker 1: to Georgia.
33:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he he went, so he part of the
33:06
Speaker 2: plea deal was that he would be uh geled in Pennsylvania.
33:11
Speaker 2: Therefore his families close by. I can visit him and
33:14
Speaker 2: that's where it. But he did, I mean, he pled
33:16
Speaker 2: guilty and he received two life sentences for that. So
33:19
Speaker 2: he's not getting out of prison until he dies. But
33:22
Speaker 2: he might have already been not getting out of I
33:24
Speaker 2: don't know what his assault charges at sixty three years
33:27
Speaker 2: old were. I don't know what he was. If he
33:29
Speaker 2: was that violent, I can't imagine what else he had
33:32
Speaker 2: done in his life.
33:33
Speaker 1: So yeah, motherfucker.
33:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, the only good thing is is
33:37
Speaker 2: he kept making poor life choices. So he probably was
33:40
Speaker 2: incarcerated most of his life, which is probably why he
33:43
Speaker 2: didn't wasn't able to do something like this to somebody else,
33:47
Speaker 2: to somebody else, But well, he gave the.
33:51
Speaker 1: Daughter closure as to finding out who actually.
33:53
Speaker 2: Had done it, and the investigator because he really it
33:57
Speaker 2: bothered him all those years that he couldn't solve this one.
34:01
Speaker 2: So anyways, I can't believe they lost that evidence though,
34:05
Speaker 2: in that evidence locker.
34:07
Speaker 1: Hell, sometimes you build a new police station and you
34:09
Speaker 1: move things, and things get misplaced flooding.
34:12
Speaker 2: I've heard flooding can but like without it, Thank God
34:17
Speaker 2: that the State Crime Lab kept those every everything that
34:21
Speaker 2: they had, because without it there would literally been nothing
34:25
Speaker 2: they could do at all.
34:27
Speaker 1: I would have never figured that out, and.
34:28
Speaker 2: Then they probably would have still thought Manning was trying
34:30
Speaker 2: to frame his.
34:32
Speaker 1: Or the roommate was dead and killed man Yeah, there
34:36
Speaker 1: would always been a question.
34:38
Speaker 2: There always been questions. I'm going with the fact that
34:41
Speaker 2: I feel like Manning was pushed in front of a train.
34:44
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with that. That's what I believe.
34:48
Speaker 2: I believe he knew too much.
34:49
Speaker 3: Allegedly, yes, allegedly.
34:51
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't care about Ronald Ronald.
34:53
Speaker 1: I don't want to get I don't want to fill
34:55
Speaker 1: Ronald's commisary up when he sues us.
34:56
Speaker 2: Allegedly, Ronald can't sue us.
34:59
Speaker 1: I don't know, be like they're defaming me.
35:01
Speaker 2: Oh anyways, so that is our case out of Georgia. Stu,
35:09
Speaker 2: do you have a y'all need Jesus? Of course, I
35:11
Speaker 2: please don't write me emails about what Stu said earlier.
35:14
Speaker 2: I already did when you said what you hope happens
35:17
Speaker 2: to the people in Priss. Just stop don't say it again.
35:21
Speaker 1: We're what they end that somebody.
35:23
Speaker 2: Still listen, I know, but they were there for the
35:26
Speaker 2: earlier So some things I edit out that Stu says,
35:30
Speaker 2: but I'm tired, and so please just.
35:32
Speaker 1: You edit stuff I say out.
35:33
Speaker 2: Yes, Stuart, you know why, I go back and like, no,
35:35
Speaker 2: you can't say that in real time, in real time, Yes,
35:40
Speaker 2: I'm like no, too far, Yes, Stu is sometimes I
35:44
Speaker 2: say stuff that's too far as well, and I take
35:46
Speaker 2: it out so I don't want to hear about it
35:48
Speaker 2: from the public.
35:50
Speaker 1: Well, you don't want that to be out there that
35:51
Speaker 1: you actually said that, either. No.
35:53
Speaker 2: I already have enough drunken things I said way back
35:56
Speaker 2: in the day. They're out there that are out there
35:59
Speaker 2: for all to hear. So, and I am a grown
36:03
Speaker 2: up professional with children.
36:05
Speaker 1: While you weren't when you recorded that.
36:09
Speaker 2: Actually I was a professional at the time. I just
36:12
Speaker 2: professional what poor choices?
36:15
Speaker 1: Professional at making poor choices?
36:17
Speaker 2: Yes, anyways, all right, so let's get into our y'all
36:19
Speaker 2: need Jesus.
36:21
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36:26
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36:35
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36:36
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36:39
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Speaker 1: at a Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, they're probably from Florida. A lot of transplants,
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Speaker 2: a lot of swapping. Louisiana and Florida swapped people all the.
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Speaker 1: Time, swapped the crazies. Yes, this is by Elena at
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Speaker 1: Tea Jane Weary, seventh, two thousand and twenty six, Monroe, Louisiana.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why Baton Rouge. I guess Baton Rouge
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Speaker 1: picked up the story. It happened up near Monroe, like
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Speaker 1: and Marion, Marion is like you could probably spit and
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Speaker 1: hit the border with Arkansas. So they're probably just Southern
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Speaker 1: Kansas basically up there, you know, in South Louisiana. We
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Speaker 1: don't consider them to be Louisiana.
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Speaker 2: Yes, do I've heard that.
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Speaker 1: They're either Southern Arkansas or.
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Speaker 2: East Texast Texas?
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Speaker 1: Pretty much?
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Speaker 2: Are you making that.
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Speaker 1: Bunch of Yankees up there because we don't.
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Speaker 3: Claim them they're from East Texas?
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Speaker 1: Well, we don't claim you.
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Speaker 2: And louis And then you've got a bunch of you've
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Speaker 2: got a bunch of half breeds in there. Where in
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Speaker 2: there are children. I know you breeded with me with
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Speaker 2: my East Texas. Yeah, actually worse, it's Oklahoma.
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Speaker 1: Muscogee trash, Monroe, Louisiana from k and Oe, The Union
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Speaker 1: Parish Sheriff's Office arrested a Marian woman accused of attacking
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Speaker 1: a deputy Union Paarish Sheriff's officer. Sheriff's office responded to
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Speaker 1: a home and then Lynnville community after a caller stated
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Speaker 1: their neighbor was trespassing on their property Kara. Officials say
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Speaker 1: the caller stated the neighbor was standing in their driveway
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Speaker 1: screaming after being told not to trespass on their property
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Speaker 1: on previous occasions. Sheriff's office says when they arrived, the
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Speaker 1: woman was found swimming nude in a pond on the
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Speaker 1: caller's property. According to officials, forty one year old Aaron
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Sutton initially refused to get out of the pond
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Speaker 1: and speak to speak two deputies. She said she was
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Speaker 1: trying to be a mermaid Kara. They say, Sutton finally
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Speaker 1: got out of the pond and ems was called to
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Speaker 1: evaluate her. When asked to step inside a residence, officials
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Speaker 1: say Sudden suddenly charged toward a deputy sheriff says Sutton
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Speaker 1: refused to comply and was taste, which reportedly had no effect.
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Speaker 2: Oh, she's on the bas salts. Maybe remember whenever he
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Speaker 2: was on the basalts in Florida and they were like
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Speaker 2: turned into zombies.
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Speaker 1: That was real scary.
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Speaker 2: I still remember the one that like just walked up
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Speaker 2: in someone's garage and like attacked him and tried.
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Speaker 3: To eat him on it.
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Speaker 1: That one was on basalts.
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Speaker 2: I think that one was on basalts.
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Speaker 1: Oh that one wasn't He was just like mentally ill.
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Speaker 1: If that's the one I'm thinking of, Officials say. Sutton
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Speaker 1: continued to resist detention and began kicking and punching the deputy.
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Speaker 1: She was finally arrested an ems around.
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Speaker 2: She thought that it was it was Ursula and the urchins.
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Speaker 1: Maybe coming to get her and steal her voice.
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Speaker 2: Or yes, take taking King of Prince Eric. We've been
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Speaker 2: on a we have been on the Little Mermaid train.
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Speaker 2: Here we were. We were real hard on the Little
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Speaker 2: Mermaid there for a little bit, but that was a short.
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Speaker 1: This is a family program. Quit talking about being a
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Speaker 1: hard the Little Mermaid.
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Speaker 2: We were in a Little Mermaid phase. And now we're
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Speaker 2: currently in frozen, We're in an icy village. We're into
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Speaker 2: the unknown.
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Speaker 1: Let it go.
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Speaker 2: She knows all the words, and the one year old
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Speaker 2: knows all the words too. She can sing them. She'll
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Speaker 2: just hear it.
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Speaker 1: Let it go. Sutton was finally restrained and im s
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Speaker 1: arrived to take her to the hospital for further treatment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she needs, she needs. She has obviously has mental
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Speaker 2: health issues. I feel sorry for her.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, according to author, drug issues.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: During transport, Sutton threatened to kill the deputies and the paramedics.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's office says that due to her requiring medical treatment,
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Speaker 1: they sought warrants for her rest at a later date.
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Speaker 1: She was arrested on January sixth, charged with three counts
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Speaker 1: of resisting an officer with force or violence, two counts
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Speaker 1: of public intimidation, two counts of battery of a police officer,
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Speaker 1: one counter disturbing the piece drunkenness, and one count of
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Speaker 1: criminal trespass. Her bond was set at sixty two thousand.
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Speaker 2: Dollars and one count of not showing up to her
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Speaker 2: dad's concert where she was supposed to sing and star
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Speaker 2: in the show leaving Sebastian aghast at. Yes, remember at
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Speaker 2: the beginning the Little Mermaid, she doesn't show up to
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Speaker 2: the thing in Sebastian it runs his whole show and
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Speaker 2: what's he going to do with that girl? I haven't
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Speaker 2: wanted What have you not watched the You know what's
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Speaker 2: a fun fact? What's fun fact about the Little Mermaid?
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Speaker 2: Remember when you we we paused it at the beginning, goofy,
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Speaker 2: Donald and Mickey are in the audience at the initial
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Speaker 2: the first concert that Ariels supposed to sing. If you
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Speaker 2: pause it just right, you can see him. They it
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Speaker 2: was like a little hidden thing that they put them
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Speaker 2: in the ocean in the crowd.
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Speaker 1: I think I saw that on the internet a year
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Speaker 1: or two ago.
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Speaker 2: Stuart, we paused and found them with the children.
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Speaker 1: When did we do that?
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Speaker 2: We did this?
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Speaker 3: We we did it.
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Speaker 2: We had to do it multiple times after wed The
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Speaker 2: first time we found it, we had to pause and
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Speaker 2: then like we found them and you're like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's Donald. How the fuck do you not remember any
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Speaker 2: of this stuff?
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Speaker 1: Who are you? Jesus Christ?
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Speaker 2: Anyways, if you pause it at the beginning, Stu was there.
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Speaker 2: He did was involved with this, So all right, well,
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Speaker 2: that is our case for this week. It was a
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Speaker 2: terrible one. We apologize terribly sad story. And then I
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Speaker 2: hate whenever they don't get caught right away. No, and
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Speaker 2: then justice for man and you know, be caught and
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Speaker 2: get the business end of a Stuart stop. If a
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Speaker 2: young now Georgia, he might have been put to well,
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Speaker 2: I don't think that. It depends on what the laws
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Speaker 2: were at the time, and they were back in the eighties, nineties,
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Speaker 2: early ninetes. There were some real there was like a
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Speaker 2: lot of pal there's a lot of like stuff with
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Speaker 2: not the death penalty, a lot of stuff without What
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Speaker 2: are you looking up, stew.
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Speaker 1: Well, I got a fun fact.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't want a fun fact.
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Speaker 1: You can continue talking.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm done. We're done. I told us we had
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Speaker 2: until ten thirty to record.
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Speaker 1: You were saying in thirty Yeah, you were saying that
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Speaker 1: the uh back in the eighties, late mid to late eighties,
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Speaker 1: they were on this kick of releasing people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they were on the kick of releasing people for overcrowding,
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Speaker 2: and they seemed to release all the bad people.
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Speaker 1: It's like, come on, well, yeah, they suspended all the
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Speaker 1: I mean because in California they did away with the
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Speaker 1: death penalty. Then they brought it back, and that's how
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Speaker 1: Manson got away with not going to the getting executed
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Speaker 1: because he was on death row. And then they commuted
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Speaker 1: all their sentences when they went away from the death penalty,
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Speaker 1: then they reinstated.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they went back and forth. They've gone back and
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Speaker 2: forth and all this, and what happens is people end
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Speaker 2: up getting released whenever they do all this stuff back
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Speaker 2: and forth anyway, Well.
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Speaker 1: That's over in Europe. They get life sentences and life
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Speaker 1: is like twenty years.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and Canada, like I remember that guy that did
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Speaker 2: stab all those people on that bus. Yeah, he was
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Speaker 2: out about like in twenty years or whatever. He's walking
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Speaker 2: around right now. It might be outside of our house.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Well, over in France they did away with the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: But you know the last time they had the death penalty, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know the last time they Hurrian.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: The last person that was killed by guillotine was nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy seven. Oh okay, so I'm.
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Speaker 2: Not gonna hate yourself.
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Speaker 3: No, you were alive out I was alive.
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, well, okay, death penalty, death penalty or not
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Speaker 2: death penalty that we just were we seem to be
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Speaker 2: releasing and around that time it was real sketchy about
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Speaker 2: letting people out of prison that did really bad things,
44:43
Speaker 2: even Texas where we covered cases where in Texas they
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Speaker 2: were just letting people out for overcrowded It's like, what
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Speaker 2: the like, what are we doing with ourselves? Anyways? All right,
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Speaker 2: that is it for this week. Do you have anything
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Speaker 2: else to says?
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Speaker 1: To do? We want me to help with that.
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Speaker 2: I think that's it all right, so we will see
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Speaker 2: you next time. Buy everyone, Say bye, Steve.
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Speaker 1: Don't you know it's bad to be superstitious by napping?
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Speaker 1: Elsin's working and my hand is green and learning and sick.
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