Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Derrick Billups, MSHA, CMRP, FACHE, Vice President of Supply Chain and Support Services at UC Health – Cincinnati
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- 0:51- This is Laura Dierdahl with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:54- podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:56- Derek Phillips, vice president of supply chain and
- 0:58- support services at UCHealth in Cincinnati. Derek, it's
- 1:01- a pleasure to have you on the podcast
- 1:02- today.
- 1:03- Thank you for having me.
- 1:06- Absolutely. Now I'm excited for this conversation. I
- 1:08- know we're gonna dig deeper into,
- 1:11- the supply chain and and some of the
- 1:13- things that, have been evolving over the last
- 1:15- few years as well as the great projects
- 1:18- and initiatives that you've been working on and
- 1:19- how you're thinking about the future. But before
- 1:21- we dive in, can you tell us a
- 1:23- little bit more about yourself and UCHealth?
- 1:26- Yeah. I'd be glad to. Thanks again for
- 1:28- the opportunity. Look forward to the discussion. So
- 1:31- UCHealth in Cincinnati, we,
- 1:33- are a,
- 1:35- level one trauma academic medical center. We're the
- 1:38- only,
- 1:40- academic,
- 1:41- health system in the greater Cincinnati region
- 1:44- as well as the region's only level one
- 1:46- trauma center.
- 1:48- UCHealth serves a highly complex patient population, provides
- 1:51- advanced specialty care across
- 1:54- areas like trauma, transplant,
- 1:56- neuroscience,
- 1:57- cancer,
- 1:59- heart and vascular services, as well as emergency
- 2:01- medicine.
- 2:03- As an academic health system, we're also balancing
- 2:05- our three very important missions every day, and
- 2:08- that's delivering
- 2:09- exceptional patient care,
- 2:10- education to the next generation of health care
- 2:13- professionals,
- 2:14- and advancing innovation through research.
- 2:19- I love that. I think especially for the
- 2:21- academic centers, being able to have influence on
- 2:24- so many different levels, whether it's the care
- 2:26- being provided, the,
- 2:28- innovation, the school training the next,
- 2:31- level of leaders, and then the research too
- 2:34- is really, really exciting. So,
- 2:36- given all of the things that, go on
- 2:38- within the system, can you tell us about
- 2:40- how supply chain has evolved in your role
- 2:43- as well in the last few two years?
- 2:44- I can imagine it's much different than it
- 2:46- was even five, ten years ago.
- 2:49- It is. And I've spent probably two thirds
- 2:51- of my career in
- 2:53- health care supply chain. I actually have a
- 2:55- clinical background, but I spent two thirds of
- 2:57- my career in health care supply chain, and
- 2:59- it certainly has evolved over the last twenty
- 3:01- plus years.
- 3:02- I think the biggest change has been the
- 3:04- evolution of supply chain from what
- 3:07- was traditionally viewed as a support function into
- 3:10- a
- 3:10- more strategic enterprise function.
- 3:13- As noted a few years ago, many people
- 3:15- associated
- 3:17- supply chain primarily with purchasing,
- 3:19- contracting, and inventory
- 3:21- management.
- 3:22- While those things are still important,
- 3:25- today's supply chain plays a much broader role
- 3:27- in helping organizations
- 3:29- navigate the financial pressures,
- 3:31- supply
- 3:32- disruptions, workforce challenges,
- 3:35- and clinical transformation efforts.
- 3:37- You
- 3:38- know, a number of years ago, I think
- 3:39- the pandemic really highlighted what many of us
- 3:42- already knew, that supply chain is directly connected
- 3:46- to patient care. If critical products aren't available,
- 3:50- clinical teams can't provide the care,
- 3:52- the way the patients need and deserve.
- 3:54- I think because of this, my role really
- 3:56- kind of as supply chain has evolved.
- 4:00- Again, my role, my even my team's role
- 4:02- now require much closer collaboration with physicians,
- 4:06- nursing leaders, finance partners, and executive leaderships across
- 4:10- the organization.
- 4:12- We're using a lot of data and analytics
- 4:14- to drive value,
- 4:16- assess supply risk,
- 4:18- strengthen our resilience,
- 4:20- strategies,
- 4:21- evaluate new technologies and products to ensure we're
- 4:24- making smart investments
- 4:26- that really ensure that we're improving care,
- 4:29- while managing cost responsibly.
- 4:33- I would go on to say the expectation
- 4:34- now is that supply chain can,
- 4:37- contribute not only to the operational performance,
- 4:40- but also to quality outcomes and organizational resilience
- 4:43- and financial sustainability.
- 4:44- And that's a much broader and more strategic
- 4:47- role than we've traditionally played.
- 4:50- That makes a lot of sense. You know?
- 4:52- Is I can imagine in many ways exciting,
- 4:55- to have that more of a strategic role
- 4:56- in Lens as you're looking to the influence
- 4:58- you have across the system and in way
- 5:01- that you impact,
- 5:02- the the broader performance as well as ability
- 5:05- to provide quality care. So,
- 5:07- from that lens, what are some of the
- 5:09- big pressures that you're seeing on the supply
- 5:10- chain right now, and how do you prioritize
- 5:12- them when, you know, there there's so much
- 5:14- happening at once?
- 5:16- Yeah. There and there is a lot going
- 5:18- on in today's environment. I would I would
- 5:21- group today's challenges probably into three areas or
- 5:23- three buckets, and that'd be, one being financial
- 5:26- sustainability,
- 5:28- second being resilience, third, clinical alignment.
- 5:31- Think
- 5:32- first for health care organizations
- 5:34- across the country as we continue to face
- 5:36- significant financial pressures.
- 5:38- It's so critical,
- 5:40- that each dollar that we spend delivers a
- 5:43- good and strong value while supporting our patient
- 5:45- care. We we know cost and expenses are
- 5:48- going up and
- 5:49- reimbursements
- 5:50- are, in a lot of cases, staying flat
- 5:52- or in some cases, clients, so it's critically
- 5:54- important.
- 5:56- Second, with supply disruptions,
- 6:00- they continue to remain reality. We saw this
- 6:03- firsthand,
- 6:04- back in 2024,
- 6:06- with the IV fluid shortages following hurricane Helene
- 6:09- and,
- 6:10- obviously, everything that we experienced during the pandemic,
- 6:13- while we you know, the conditions have improved
- 6:15- since this point since the height of the
- 6:17- pandemic,
- 6:18- we've learned that resilience isn't something you achieve
- 6:21- once and just move on from it. It's
- 6:23- it's an ongoing capability that must be continuously
- 6:26- developed.
- 6:28- We're focused on supply continuity, supplier
- 6:31- diversification,
- 6:33- inventory visibility, and really that preparedness of planning
- 6:36- to minimize risk and maintain uninterrupted
- 6:39- patient care.
- 6:40- And I would say lastly, the there's always
- 6:43- a challenge in managing clinical variation, especially for
- 6:45- us in an academic medical center. I would
- 6:47- say for most academic medical centers,
- 6:50- you know, those are environments that encourage innovation
- 6:53- and highly specialized care, which naturally creates a
- 6:56- variation of products and practice patterns. So,
- 6:59- you know, our approach is still to make
- 7:00- sure decisions are guided
- 7:03- by evidence and collaboration with our clinical partners,
- 7:07- and through, you know, strong value analysis processes.
- 7:10- We have physician engagement,
- 7:12- data driven insights. We're working to balance innovation,
- 7:16- patient safety,
- 7:18- operational effectiveness, and financial stewardship.
- 7:21- Really, at the end of the day, our
- 7:22- goal was straightforward and hasn't changed. That's to
- 7:24- improve,
- 7:25- patient care while ensuring resources
- 7:28- are used responsibly and effectively as possible.
- 7:34- Absolutely. I think that makes a lot of
- 7:36- sense. And, you know, it can really be,
- 7:39- a huge, huge
- 7:40- challenge for the organization's supply chain leaders. I
- 7:43- know in in typically,
- 7:45- you know, when you're trying to think through
- 7:47- how the care delivery process has changed and,
- 7:50- financial realities of today,
- 7:53- you know, finding that way to continue to
- 7:55- meet
- 7:57- the bigger goals and broader mission of the
- 7:59- health system is more critical than ever. So
- 8:01- I can imagine, you know, there are lots
- 8:04- of different ways that you're approaching this, and
- 8:06- making sure that you've got what you need
- 8:08- in order to deliver that care. Could you
- 8:10- tell us about, a project or initiative from
- 8:13- last year or an example that you can
- 8:14- share,
- 8:15- that
- 8:16- has been helpful or produced some great results?
- 8:20- Sure.
- 8:21- I think one of the most impactful initiatives
- 8:23- that we've led or been a part over
- 8:25- the past year was transforming how we make
- 8:28- supply chain decisions by combining supply resilience,
- 8:31- the clinical collaboration that I spoke about earlier,
- 8:34- and really using the data to drive analytics
- 8:36- into a single strategy. So,
- 8:39- by comp combining
- 8:40- all those,
- 8:41- we our objective was simple.
- 8:43- That was ensure clinicians have the right product
- 8:46- at the right time at the right place
- 8:48- while also strengthening our ability to respond to
- 8:51- the market disruptions and ongoing financial pressures.
- 8:55- And and to do that, in
- 8:57- combination, we partner very closely with our physicians,
- 9:01- nursing leaders, and operational stakeholders
- 9:04- to better understand the utilization practices and patterns,
- 9:08- of supplies,
- 9:10- verify standardization opportunities where appropriate,
- 9:13- and ensure product decisions were grounded in clinical
- 9:16- evidence and patient needs.
- 9:18- And at the same time, we enhanced our
- 9:20- resiliency efforts by increasing
- 9:22- visibility
- 9:23- into supply risk, really strengthen our supplier relationships,
- 9:28- having the discussions with them and where there
- 9:30- might be pain points or
- 9:32- or opportunities to work with our suppliers in
- 9:35- this in this environment,
- 9:37- evaluating critical inventory strategies and leveraging market intelligence
- 9:41- proactively identify potential issues before they impact patient
- 9:44- care.
- 9:45- And part of this the conduit to all
- 9:47- this was really the the data was really
- 9:49- the foundation of the entire initiative.
- 9:53- By combining the utilization analytics,
- 9:56- benchmarking tools,
- 9:58- various market intelligence,
- 10:00- data that we were able to access
- 10:02- and use even today, we're able to to
- 10:04- make more informed decisions, focus on high value
- 10:07- opportunities,
- 10:09- increase stronger alignment between supply chain and and
- 10:12- clinical leadership.
- 10:13- We have pretty significant results,
- 10:15- in a short amount of time within twelve
- 10:17- to fifteen months of this initiative.
- 10:19- We actually,
- 10:20- achieved a 10 reduction in our business price
- 10:23- competitive index, which is really kind of a
- 10:26- general score of how your pricing compares to
- 10:28- other, like, or peer hospitals,
- 10:31- your size and scope.
- 10:33- And we actually became best in class in
- 10:35- that,
- 10:37- throughout the course of that year.
- 10:39- We generated approximately $23,000,000
- 10:41- in annualized savings.
- 10:43- We improved our purchasing competitors
- 10:46- and really strengthened our preparedness for future supply
- 10:49- disruptions.
- 10:50- And I think what I would say with
- 10:52- all that is what I'm most proud of
- 10:53- though is that
- 10:54- is how we achieve those results.
- 10:57- This wasn't about just
- 10:59- cutting cost. It was about collaboration,
- 11:02- alliance
- 11:03- supply chain, physicians, and clinical leaders around a
- 11:06- common goal,
- 11:07- which we which created the value and improved
- 11:10- resilience and ultimately strengthened our ability to support
- 11:12- our patients and our patient care.
- 11:16- That's awesome to hear. You know, and really
- 11:19- impressive, obviously,
- 11:20- generating, you know, that $23,000,000 in savings is
- 11:23- huge on improving that competitiveness and then,
- 11:26- really aligning around what's gonna be most impactful
- 11:29- for the whole organization overall, you know, best
- 11:32- case scenario.
- 11:33- But I know easier said than done in
- 11:35- many, many ways,
- 11:36- but, really impressive to hear. From the leadership
- 11:40- perspective, is there anything that you feel like,
- 11:42- you did differently to approach this in order
- 11:44- to get the results, or,
- 11:46- was it more or less just being able
- 11:48- to, you know, be very communicative with the
- 11:50- team and all run-in the same direction?
- 11:54- Yeah. I think, you know, again, what we
- 11:55- learned a number of things throughout this exercise
- 11:57- is that, again, ensuring that we have the
- 11:59- right products at the right time
- 12:02- sourcing, but also
- 12:03- be able to have those predictive,
- 12:07- insights as to where there's gonna be disruption
- 12:09- and make sure that when if and when
- 12:11- those disruptions occur in the supply chain market
- 12:14- that that that we aren't that we're not
- 12:16- reacted to it, we're more proactive to it.
- 12:19- And, again,
- 12:20- through collaborative efforts with our physician partners and
- 12:23- clinical partners,
- 12:25- we have a much better
- 12:28- plan and,
- 12:30- a strategy in place today than what we
- 12:32- probably did, you know, four or five years
- 12:33- ago even going into the pandemic period. So
- 12:36- I think we've really gained a lot of
- 12:38- lessons learned from
- 12:39- this this initial that we that we embarked
- 12:42- upon, and it's
- 12:44- sustained today. And,
- 12:46- you know, supply chain is definitely one of
- 12:48- the,
- 12:49- entities that's at the table with the,
- 12:53- physician providers and our clinical partners.
- 12:57- That's great to hear. Now before we wrap
- 13:00- up, I wanted to look into the future
- 13:01- a bit as well. How do you anticipate
- 13:03- the supply chain will continue to change, evolve,
- 13:05- and grow in the next three to five
- 13:07- years or so?
- 13:10- Yeah. It's a great question. And I think,
- 13:11- you know, a lot of,
- 13:14- of other leaders like like myself in the
- 13:16- supply chain space are asking that same question.
- 13:19- I think I think health care supply chain
- 13:21- is already moving towards becoming,
- 13:23- a lot of what we talked about is,
- 13:24- you know, being more predictive, more integrated,
- 13:28- and much more connected to clinical care.
- 13:31- We talk a lot about AI and artificial
- 13:33- intelligence.
- 13:34- You know, it's the the the latest
- 13:37- technologies and buzzwords in this space, but
- 13:39- that and advanced analytics will give us better
- 13:42- tool to forecast demand,
- 13:44- identify the the fraction risk that we've that
- 13:47- we've spoken about, really optimize our inventory to
- 13:50- uncover opportunities that might otherwise be missed.
- 13:53- We'll continue shifting from reacting,
- 13:56- to problems or disruptions as they occur to
- 13:58- identifying risk earlier
- 14:00- and enacting them before they impact operations of
- 14:03- patient care.
- 14:05- I also expect there to be a continued
- 14:07- much deeper integration between supply chain and clinical
- 14:10- operations.
- 14:12- As health systems continue to focus on value
- 14:15- based care and patient outcomes,
- 14:17- supply chain will play,
- 14:19- continue to play a large role in helping
- 14:20- evaluate new products and technologies,
- 14:23- support evidence based product decisions, and reduce unnecessary
- 14:26- variation.
- 14:28- And we've talked a lot about it already
- 14:30- here this afternoon, but, you know, another major
- 14:33- focus would be continuing to be the resilience,
- 14:36- of our of our supply chain,
- 14:39- pipeline and supply chain operations.
- 14:42- I think the lessons we've learned over the
- 14:43- last four years have to be,
- 14:46- have permanently changed how health care organizations
- 14:48- think about risk.
- 14:50- Cost will always matter, but reliability
- 14:53- and continuity and preparedness will increasingly influence
- 14:57- our decision making and and,
- 15:00- overall
- 15:01- operations.
- 15:02- And finally, innovation will continue to accelerate.
- 15:06- The organizations that are most successful will be
- 15:08- those that can elevate
- 15:10- and evaluate,
- 15:12- innovation in a disciplined way,
- 15:15- embracing technologies, improve patient outcomes while maintaining,
- 15:20- financial sustainability.
- 15:23- I love that. I think to your point,
- 15:25- I mean, it's so critical to have that,
- 15:28- type of understanding of some of the risks,
- 15:30- where the supply chain is, how you can
- 15:32- continue to plan and strategize
- 15:34- in a way that, you know, you're able
- 15:36- to meet the needs of of, the community
- 15:39- and the care you're trying to serve without,
- 15:41- maxing out resources
- 15:43- in in really,
- 15:44- you know, especially in environment where there's a
- 15:46- lot of financial challenges already. It that seems
- 15:49- to make a lot of sense. Derek, thank
- 15:51- you so much for joining us on the
- 15:52- podcast today. This has been such a a
- 15:55- fascinating conversation.
- 15:56- I truly appreciate your time and look forward
- 15:58- to connecting with you again soon.
- 16:00- Thank you, Laura. Appreciate the opportunity. It's been
- 16:02- great, great talking with you. Thank you.