Latest / The Smoke Break with Adrian The Car Guy / Car Salesmen Reveal Their Worst Money Moves ($48K Gone in 4 Hours)
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- 0:00Kirby has gotten two managers fired.
- 0:03Oh, damn.
- 0:04And then I go all in
- 0:06and I lose everything.
- 0:07Bought a
- 0:07nutrition shop, didn't read the
- 0:09contracts, lost $48,000 in four hours.
- 0:12Yeah, so then I went YOLO
- 0:14and then I bought a Lambo.
- 0:16It was called Smoking Chicken Fish.
- 0:18What the hell?
- 0:19Dude, that one made me a
- 0:20lot of money, dude.
- 0:22At some point,
- 0:22those people have to look at
- 0:23themselves and say,
- 0:24hey, maybe it's not the
- 0:24dealership, maybe it's you.
- 0:26Maybe you suck.
- 0:30All righty, guys.
- 0:31So, welcome back to the Smoke
- 0:33Break Podcast.
- 0:34Today I'm joined with very
- 0:35special guests.
- 0:36First and foremost,
- 0:37I'm joined with my co-host
- 0:39Adrian, my general manager.
- 0:43And who do we have here?
- 0:44Caleb.
- 0:45And.
- 0:45Kirby.
- 0:46All right.
- 0:47So, Caleb, what's your nickname?
- 0:51Caveman Caleb.
- 0:52Caveman Caleb.
- 0:53Irvin.
- 0:54Oh, we
- 0:55automatically
- 0:57think that Kirby.
- 1:00So his real name is Irvin,
- 1:01nickname Kirby.
- 1:02So we're back here in the
- 1:03Smoke Break podcast and we're
- 1:05joined with Kirby,
- 1:07Caleb, Caveman Caleb,
- 1:09and Adriana.
- 1:10And Caleb's going to talk about
- 1:12the most difficult customer he's
- 1:13ever had without mentioning any names.
- 1:15All right.
- 1:17All right.
- 1:18So let's get started.
- 1:19Real quick, Adriana's going to
- 1:20have some questions for us that
- 1:22she's got to,
- 1:23because she's very,
- 1:24very, very curious to see what
- 1:26you guys think.
- 1:27Not only myself,
- 1:28but everybody.
- 1:29Everybody online has been asking
- 1:31some burning questions for both
- 1:33of you because,
- 1:34as you guys keep appearing more
- 1:35in the episodes,
- 1:36people have questions.
- 1:37People want to know where you
- 1:38guys even come from.
- 1:40So, that being started,
- 1:41so how did both of you
- 1:42guys get started on the car business?
- 1:43Because I know a story,
- 1:45I know there's the stories are
- 1:46two different stories.
- 1:48So,
- 1:49loosen up, loosen up a bit, yeah.
- 1:50Loosen up, Caleb.
- 1:54How did you get started on
- 1:55the car business?
- 1:56Oh, I as soon as I
- 1:58got out of the military,
- 1:59I just joined.
- 2:01my brother actually got me into
- 2:02the car business.
- 2:03he's the one that got me
- 2:04in after I got military.
- 2:06I just needed a job and
- 2:07he got me a job at
- 2:08a dealership and I started
- 2:09selling cars.
- 2:10How long ago was that?
- 2:11about two and a half years
- 2:12ago, two
- 2:12and a half years ago,
- 2:13yeah, nice.
- 2:14And Kirby, how did you start
- 2:15the car business?
- 2:16I always wanted to be in
- 2:16the car business since I was
- 2:17in high school.
- 2:19my best friend that works here,
- 2:21Angel, he
- 2:23can't believe you and Angel are
- 2:24friends.
- 2:25Yeah, so I he went to
- 2:27UTI, the school over there in
- 2:29in Houston.
- 2:30I know Caleb's got
- 2:32a question.
- 2:32Go ahead.
- 2:33Yeah, so it's a school,
- 2:34the Universal Technical
- 2:36Institute or something.
- 2:37Oh, okay.
- 2:37Yeah, it's in Houston.
- 2:39UTI?
- 2:40Yeah.
- 2:41That's what I said.
- 2:42UTI is
- 2:42the name of it.
- 2:43I have no idea.
- 2:45Google what UTI is.
- 2:48What is a UTI?
- 2:49Believe it or not,
- 2:50I actually was going to go
- 2:51over there so I could learn
- 2:52more about cars so that way
- 2:53I can start selling cars.
- 2:55But then I was like,
- 2:55dude, why are you going to
- 2:56go to school so you could
- 2:58learn how to sell cars?
- 2:59That's not
- 3:00a school.
- 3:01Yeah.
- 3:01Urinary tract infection.
- 3:04Well, anyways, yeah.
- 3:05So
- 3:07it's really called UTI.
- 3:08Yeah.
- 3:08Okay.
- 3:09We can't get over that.
- 3:10So anyways, I was working at
- 3:11Best Buy.
- 3:11He was like,
- 3:12hey, bro, I can get you
- 3:13into a job as a service
- 3:14advisor here at Ford.
- 3:15I was like,
- 3:15okay, cool.
- 3:16So I got hired.
- 3:17I did technical work for,
- 3:19I want to say,
- 3:19like three
- 3:22weeks around there.
- 3:23Yeah.
- 3:23Became an advisor.
- 3:24And then I went into sales.
- 3:27But I wasn't allowed to go
- 3:28to sales, so I was like,
- 3:29okay, fine.
- 3:30Well, I want to try to
- 3:30branch out.
- 3:31Then I went to a dealer,
- 3:32didn't learn anything there for
- 3:33months.
- 3:34And then Adrian hired me on
- 3:35the spot.
- 3:36And yeah, that's kind of my
- 3:40own.
- 3:41No, no, actually,
- 3:41actually, he came in.
- 3:43Alex said, I'm not hiring him.
- 3:45And he kicked him out.
- 3:47Yeah, so he came in.
- 3:48Oh,
- 3:48no, no.
- 3:51The way how Angel said it
- 3:52was like Adrian's like,
- 3:53Adrian's needing people.
- 3:54So he said he'll hire you
- 3:55on the spot.
- 3:56And I was like, okay.
- 3:57Oh, so you came in and
- 3:58interviewed Alex?
- 3:59And then Alex is all like.
- 4:00Get the F*** out.
- 4:03So Alex didn't hire him,
- 4:05but then I told Alex,
- 4:06I'm like, Alex,
- 4:06where's this kid?
- 4:07Yeah, because Angel,
- 4:08I remember we were in your
- 4:09office and Angel came in and
- 4:11followed up with,
- 4:12like, hey, did you interview my
- 4:13friend?
- 4:14And then you were like,
- 4:14yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 4:15let me go with Alex.
- 4:16And Alex is like,
- 4:17no, screw that guy.
- 4:19I didn't hire him.
- 4:20He seems all weaseled out.
- 4:21And then you were like,
- 4:22yeah, just put him through.
- 4:23Just put him through.
- 4:24So then that's when we called
- 4:25you again to come over here
- 4:26and then do the whole thing.
- 4:27And then I hired you on
- 4:28the spot.
- 4:28So if it was up to
- 4:29Alex, He wouldn't
- 4:31be hiring.
- 4:31I wouldn't be here.
- 4:32That's crazy.
- 4:33Also, another fun fact that you
- 4:34guys should know about Kirby.
- 4:35He used to be the mascot
- 4:37at Quick Quack.
- 4:38No, I wasn't a mascot.
- 4:39I was just a seller.
- 4:41Like, I just had seven.
- 4:43No, I never went in a
- 4:45costume just because I'm like I
- 4:46have a germaphobe thing where I
- 4:49was all like,
- 4:49man, like, imagine like being in
- 4:52something with like a lot of
- 4:53sweat and SH**.
- 4:53And so I was like,
- 4:54nah, dog.
- 4:55That's like an Oscar type thing
- 4:57right there.
- 4:57Did you guys ever imagine being
- 5:00a car salesman?
- 5:01No.
- 5:02Yes.
- 5:03You did?
- 5:03I went.
- 5:04Yeah.
- 5:04When I was in Quick Quack,
- 5:05I was like,
- 5:06I'm just going to be here
- 5:06for a few months and then
- 5:07I'm going to go into car sales.
- 5:09But then I also wanted to
- 5:11do real estate.
- 5:11Okay.
- 5:12And so were
- 5:12you doing crypto when you were
- 5:13Quick Quack,
- 5:14Yeah, dude, I was.
- 5:15Wow.
- 5:16People don't
- 5:16know that story.
- 5:17Quick Quack.
- 5:18quick.
- 5:18Yeah.
- 5:19You sold it before it hit.
- 5:21What do you mean?
- 5:21You sold it all before it hit.
- 5:22Yeah, Kirby made a bunch of money.
- 5:23You don't know that story?
- 5:25Yeah, Kirby Invested was one of
- 5:27the early investors in Bitcoin.
- 5:29And there was another time too,
- 5:31like during well,
- 5:31it was during the pandemic when
- 5:34everything hit.
- 5:34Yeah, BTC I think went around
- 5:36like 30 and I bought and
- 5:38then I sold when it was
- 5:40around like a hundred thousand.
- 5:42Yeah, yeah, I was like,
- 5:44you made some good money,
- 5:45yeah, I did
- 5:45like a lot of money, yeah.
- 5:47I made a good amount,
- 5:48and then later on,
- 5:49I kind of messed around with
- 5:50meme coins and then I made
- 5:52like 12.
- 5:53What meme coins did you do?
- 5:55What meme coins did you do?
- 5:56so I invested in Shiba like
- 5:58when it when it went up.
- 6:00And then the market crashed and
- 6:02then I just held on to
- 6:03it and I was like,
- 6:04I'm just going to forget this
- 6:05thing exists.
- 6:07It wasn't until the elections,
- 6:09everything was going up.
- 6:11And I was like,
- 6:12you know what?
- 6:12Let me go check my Shiba.
- 6:14I know I only put like
- 6:15200 bucks in it at the time.
- 6:17And then I was like,
- 6:18oh, damn.
- 6:19You know what?
- 6:19I'm just going to sell it.
- 6:21I didn't believe in it.
- 6:23You made money off of Shiba.
- 6:24I made money off of Shiba.
- 6:25when it was up and then
- 6:27it fell.
- 6:28And so again,
- 6:29I held on to it and
- 6:30then later on it's like,
- 6:31oh damn, it went up.
- 6:31I was like,
- 6:32let me let me just sell
- 6:32it because I don't want to
- 6:33hold on to this anymore.
- 6:34Did you put it away or
- 6:35you spent it?
- 6:36Oh, spent 100%.
- 6:38No.
- 6:39No, I didn't.
- 6:40I put it into more meme coins.
- 6:43Dogecoin?
- 6:44No, no, I did.
- 6:44I never invested in Doge.
- 6:46I wanted to,
- 6:46but no.
- 6:47I put it into like
- 6:48Hawk Tuah Coin.
- 6:50No, I know.
- 6:51No.
- 6:52So this is,
- 6:53well, there was one.
- 6:53It was called Smoking Chicken Fish.
- 6:56What the hell?
- 6:57Dude, that one made me a
- 6:58lot of money, dude.
- 6:59Really?
- 7:01I don't have any tattoos,
- 7:03but I will tell you this.
- 7:05It made me so much money.
- 7:06I was all like,
- 7:07my first tattoo was going to
- 7:08be that stupid A** icon and
- 7:10it's going to be like right
- 7:10here as a cool little accomplishment.
- 7:13It was a chicken smoking?
- 7:16It was like a raw chicken, right?
- 7:19A raw chicken out of the
- 7:20raw chicken milk.
- 7:21That's great.
- 7:22Look, watch.
- 7:23It's going to look so stupid.
- 7:25What are you on?
- 7:26You made the most money.
- 7:27You made more off of raw
- 7:29chicken than you did on.
- 7:31You're going to think this is
- 7:31the most stupidest picture ever,
- 7:34but I actually praised this
- 7:37stupid thing because
- 7:39I made that much money off
- 7:40of it.
- 7:41Okay,
- 7:42where were you at when this
- 7:42guy was?
- 7:43I was in the military,
- 7:44I think.
- 7:45When this guy was investing in it.
- 7:47That's crazy, dude.
- 7:48I
- 7:48was at the war.
- 7:49This is it, dude.
- 7:50I will tell you,
- 7:52this is the thing that made
- 7:52me like the most money in life.
- 7:55No way.
- 7:59Kirby, what
- 7:59the heck is that?
- 8:00Yeah, dude.
- 8:01There was a,
- 8:02it was like a huge thing.
- 8:04There was like Telegram groups
- 8:05and it was like a cult thing.
- 8:08You know, like.
- 8:09You made that?
- 8:10How much money did you make
- 8:11off of it?
- 8:12I made more than 10K at
- 8:13the time.
- 8:14Are you serious?
- 8:14I made
- 8:15more than 10K.
- 8:16You only invested 200 bucks?
- 8:17No, and I didn't invest.
- 8:18Like, I'm talking about Shiba
- 8:19made me 200 bucks.
- 8:20I put $200 in Shiba.
- 8:22It made me some money.
- 8:23And then I just reinvested it.
- 8:24$3,000 or whatever,
- 8:25$4,000, and then you just
- 8:26reinvested it.
- 8:27Yeah, so when I was at
- 8:28Ford, I was like,
- 8:29I was pretty comfort pretty
- 8:31comfortable with the amount of
- 8:33money that I was making.
- 8:34And so I was like,
- 8:35okay, like $1,000 is pretty fun
- 8:37to spend around.
- 8:38And I was just messing around
- 8:39with meme coins.
- 8:40And I put a good amount
- 8:41of money on that one,
- 8:42but that one made me a lot.
- 8:44Do you still do it today?
- 8:45No, I'm stopped with the meme
- 8:48coins because of
- 8:50but you're still gambling.
- 8:51No, I'm not.
- 8:52Yes,
- 8:53you switched over to gambling.
- 8:54I stopped.
- 8:54I still stopped gambling, bro.
- 8:56Kirby's a raging gambler.
- 8:58I mean, we
- 8:59just can't stop.
- 9:00We can't stop him.
- 9:01I would never gamble again.
- 9:03Last time I was in Vegas.
- 9:05It wasn't good?
- 9:05It was bad.
- 9:06All right, well,
- 9:06he has a lot of success
- 9:07stories on how he made a
- 9:08lot of money and then came
- 9:09into the car business.
- 9:10Do you have any success stories
- 9:11of how you made a lot
- 9:12of money?
- 9:12I have failure stories.
- 9:15I lost a lot of money.
- 9:16What was the one thing that
- 9:18you either splurged on or
- 9:20invested on that lost you the
- 9:22most money?
- 9:23And I'll tell you mine.
- 9:25Gambling.
- 9:26Yeah, I'm just renting.
- 9:26On what?
- 9:27Like on foot games?
- 9:28No, like in Vegas.
- 9:29I went to Vegas for like
- 9:30a week with my brother.
- 9:31Oh,
- 9:31a week is
- 9:32a long time in Vegas.
- 9:33That's when you rented out like
- 9:34the Porsche and everything?
- 9:35I rented a Porsche.
- 9:37What?
- 9:37Yeah, I rented a Porsche, Cayman.
- 9:39He rented out a Stingray Corvette.
- 9:42We made a lot of money
- 9:43because we were at this one
- 9:44job site for more in the
- 9:45oil field at the time.
- 9:46And we were at a job
- 9:47site for like,
- 9:47it was like at least three months.
- 9:48We were there.
- 9:49Oh, this was after Spikes.
- 9:50Yeah, it was after Spikes
- 9:51because we went to go work
- 9:52in the oil field for a
- 9:53little bit.
- 9:54And we made like at least
- 9:5520 a piece, 20k.
- 9:57And we're like,
- 9:58let's go
- 9:58to Vegas.
- 9:59Yeah, uh-uh.
- 10:00And we invited our
- 10:01friend, and he ended up backing out.
- 10:03So me and him went.
- 10:04And then my friend Philip and
- 10:05my friend Rodney both wanted to go.
- 10:07So I flew them out there.
- 10:09So I spent money on their flights.
- 10:10And then we ended up gambling
- 10:12like every day.
- 10:13I think the first night I
- 10:15spent, I think it was like
- 10:16$6,000 I spent.
- 10:18And I made double.
- 10:20So I made $12K.
- 10:22Then I was like,
- 10:22man, I'm like super confident
- 10:24about myself.
- 10:24I'm going to make a lot
- 10:25more money.
- 10:26So we went to the MGM
- 10:28Grand and I went to the
- 10:29high limits room.
- 10:31And I think in there,
- 10:32that's where I like I played baccarat.
- 10:35Dude, like I was sitting at
- 10:36the table and they were like
- 10:37bringing me beer and I was
- 10:38like, I felt like the high
- 10:39the high roller.
- 10:40You know, I had like my
- 10:40shirt on buttons and stuff.
- 10:41I was just like,
- 10:42yeah, like
- 10:43had $1,000 chips.
- 10:45Like thousand-dollar chips,
- 10:46and I was like playing with
- 10:47a hundred dollar chips.
- 10:48Damn.
- 10:49You thought you were a baller?
- 10:50I thought I was a baller,
- 10:51but when I saw them,
- 10:52they had a whole stack of
- 10:53thousand dollars.
- 10:54He had at least like fifty
- 10:55or almost a hundred thousand of chips
- 10:57just for fun.
- 10:58Yeah.
- 10:58Wow.
- 10:58And over here,
- 10:59I'm over here with like three
- 11:00thousand, four thousand in chips.
- 11:02But I started playing,
- 11:02I was like beating them,
- 11:03being them.
- 11:04Well, I'm playing,
- 11:05I'm hitting it.
- 11:06And then I go all in
- 11:07and I lose everything.
- 11:08Oh, $230.
- 11:10$12,000.
- 11:11It rose.
- 11:12Yeah, because I made it up
- 11:13all the way to like $12,000
- 11:14and I
- 11:14lost it.
- 11:15So one thing is adamant is
- 11:17that car salesmen are probably
- 11:19not the best decision makers in
- 11:21the industry.
- 11:22That's why we're here where
- 11:23we're at.
- 11:24I've never been to Vegas,
- 11:25so I can't really.
- 11:25Not yet.
- 11:26Everything's a gamble, man.
- 11:28We're gambling with our life
- 11:30every day here.
- 11:31That's right.
- 11:31Yeah.
- 11:31That's right.
- 11:33That's right.
- 11:33So.
- 11:34Kirby, what's the most common?
- 11:35No, no, tell your story.
- 11:36Oh, my story.
- 11:37Yeah, come
- 11:38on, just say it.
- 11:39You're swinging away from it.
- 11:41Let's see.
- 11:41I've lost a lot of money
- 11:42in the past before,
- 11:43but when's I'm gonna go,
- 11:45I'm not gonna go to tell
- 11:47you which I lost
- 11:49what investment I've lost the
- 11:50most money, but I'll tell you
- 11:52what the quickest amount of
- 11:53money I've lost.
- 11:54I bought a nutrition shop.
- 11:56That's the fastest.
- 11:57Not the most money I've lost,
- 11:58but it's the quickest.
- 11:59Bought a nutrition shop,
- 12:01didn't read the contracts,
- 12:02lost $48,000 in four hours.
- 12:05Oh, what?
- 12:06What?
- 12:07Yeah, it was a complicated story.
- 12:10You bought a nutrition shop.
- 12:13Yeah.
- 12:14Damn.
- 12:14We're at.
- 12:16Omission.
- 12:17It was just like random.
- 12:18And what did
- 12:18you do?
- 12:19Did you sell it or just
- 12:20took your loss and shut up?
- 12:23Wow.
- 12:24Yeah, so then I went YOLO
- 12:25and then I bought a Lambo.
- 12:27That's crazy.
- 12:28I said, in order to reward
- 12:29myself to make me feel better,
- 12:30I went and I bought a
- 12:31$200,000 car.
- 12:33You ever do that later on?
- 12:35Yeah, yeah, I made money on
- 12:36the Lambo.
- 12:37That's crazy.
- 12:38I mean, when I sold the
- 12:39Lambo, I made like $40,000.
- 12:41So I was like, oh,
- 12:43you made your money even.
- 12:44That's the way we,
- 12:45us car people,
- 12:46like to justify our bad
- 12:47decisions by closing ourselves
- 12:50and saying, yeah,
- 12:51that was bad.
- 12:52But this is bad.
- 12:54Yeah.
- 12:55Yeah, that's true.
- 12:56I agree.
- 12:57Same thing.
- 12:58So Kirby,
- 13:00you have questions for people?
- 13:01I do have more questions for
- 13:03the guys.
- 13:06What is the biggest misconception?
- 13:08And I think I've asked you
- 13:09this question before,
- 13:09but I want to know also
- 13:10Caleb's take on it.
- 13:12But what is the biggest
- 13:12misconception that people have
- 13:14about car salesmen?
- 13:16They think that we are straight
- 13:18up just trying to screw them
- 13:19over because most of the times
- 13:21when We have clients,
- 13:25they come to us for a reason.
- 13:26Like yesterday I had a client,
- 13:29500 credit score.
- 13:31His wife
- 13:33never financed anything.
- 13:35And it was just really us
- 13:36trying to do everything to get
- 13:38this deal approved.
- 13:40So like that's the thing.
- 13:41Like sometimes some people
- 13:42believe that we don't try to
- 13:43help people out.
- 13:45But there's always there's
- 13:47always like you know little
- 13:48obstacles to and everything that
- 13:49we usually try to just to
- 13:52try to roll a deal.
- 13:53A hundred percent.
- 13:53Yeah.
- 13:54And most of the times people
- 13:55people just don't believe that.
- 13:56They're like, oh no,
- 13:56like he they're just out to
- 13:58you know screw us over.
- 13:59But in reality,
- 13:59like it happens all the time
- 14:02where we just
- 14:03we have a customer and it's
- 14:05just wanting to help them out.
- 14:07Yeah.
- 14:12I wish people could also
- 14:13understand or really know what
- 14:15it takes to get somebody approved.
- 14:18Sometimes it's not as easy as
- 14:19just clicking it over and
- 14:20getting a yes from a bank.
- 14:22Sometimes there's a lot of
- 14:22negotiations, a lot of
- 14:24rebuilding, restructuring, and a
- 14:26lot of switching units.
- 14:28Like we really do put in
- 14:29the effort to help every single
- 14:31customer out.
- 14:32And it is unfortunate that
- 14:33that's the misconception they
- 14:34have because I saw it when
- 14:35I was in sales as well.
- 14:36Yeah.
- 14:36Negotiating is like.
- 14:38Yesterday and the day before you.
- 14:40Well, Saturday.
- 14:41What's your take
- 14:43on that?
- 14:43Well, I experienced it firsthand
- 14:46for two or three days straight
- 14:48with one of my customers.
- 14:49I'm not going to give a
- 14:50name or who it is,
- 14:51but dude, whenever I can
- 14:53tell you
- 14:53that people lose their trust in
- 14:55sales, like they come in
- 14:57thinking that they're going to
- 14:58get screwed over.
- 14:59So that misconception sometimes
- 15:01can you can negotiate your way
- 15:02out of a deal.
- 15:03Yeah.
- 15:04Like a customer
- 15:04can think, I'll bring them back
- 15:06something discounted.
- 15:07Like when that's the max we
- 15:09can go, but then they're gonna
- 15:10want to keep discounting it to
- 15:11keep discounting it because they
- 15:12don't trust that they're getting
- 15:13the best deal,
- 15:14but they are yeah,
- 15:15like it gets to a point
- 15:16where like we're giving them the
- 15:17fine line the like best deal possible.
- 15:20They cannot get any better
- 15:21anywhere else and they'll go try
- 15:22they'll go and I let them
- 15:23go and then they get they
- 15:25don't get the best deal over
- 15:26there and then they come back.
- 15:27Yeah, they come back and mine
- 15:28ends up being a better deal
- 15:29and they're like wow.
- 15:30Yeah.
- 15:30I think I think you guys
- 15:31are 100% right.
- 15:32I think more than anything when
- 15:34you try to be transparent with
- 15:36the customer They almost think
- 15:38that you're not being
- 15:39transparent with them.
- 15:40And like, we're giving them
- 15:41invoice minus rebates.
- 15:43But what do you think that is?
- 15:44Like, where do you think that
- 15:45even started?
- 15:47Well, I mean,
- 15:48generations, generations ago.
- 15:50I mean, you guys don't know
- 15:51a lot of stories,
- 15:51but back in the day,
- 15:52you used to,
- 15:54not me, because I started in
- 15:55the business in 2010,
- 15:57but like back in the 90s, like,
- 16:00There was a big,
- 16:01big like all the bad people
- 16:03in the automotive industry did
- 16:04everything possible to just lose
- 16:06the trust of the public.
- 16:07You would bring in your vehicle
- 16:08to get, and these are stories
- 16:09that Jeff tells me, right?
- 16:11You would bring in your vehicle
- 16:12to get appraised.
- 16:12And then that's why I don't
- 16:14know if you ever had a
- 16:14customer that fears to give them
- 16:16give you the trade keys because
- 16:18they would grab them and they
- 16:19would hold them hostage.
- 16:20And then if you didn't buy,
- 16:21they throw the keys on top
- 16:22of the roof.
- 16:23What?
- 16:24Yeah.
- 16:25I heard that story.
- 16:26No, I've never heard anything.
- 16:27I heard words too.
- 16:28Like why, like.
- 16:30Like what is it like not
- 16:32giving what their trade's worth
- 16:33or like putting the money
- 16:34somewhere else you know like
- 16:36being sneaky yeah like real sneaky
- 16:38yeah making people sign forcing
- 16:41older people to sign so there's
- 16:43a lot of a lot of
- 16:44outliers that really put a bad
- 16:46name in the automotive industry
- 16:48for sure and
- 16:49I think it stems from just
- 16:50people not having the money
- 16:52right then and there and people
- 16:54finding ways to I think it
- 16:56I think it was
- 16:57the discounts and the rebates
- 16:58that made people not trust dealerships
- 17:01Yeah, it's because a lot of
- 17:02people need to understand that
- 17:04because they always say a
- 17:05dealership never loses money.
- 17:06Well, that is somewhat true,
- 17:08but there is a point where
- 17:09you do lose money, right?
- 17:11And sometimes it doesn't make
- 17:12sense, right?
- 17:13If you're losing $2,000 in a
- 17:15deal, you know,
- 17:16I'll be able to make service back.
- 17:18I'll be able to make some
- 17:18service money.
- 17:19I'll be able to make some
- 17:20pack money and then some factory
- 17:21money sometimes whenever they
- 17:23have it.
- 17:23But there's some points where
- 17:24Arnold does some very
- 17:25questionable deals where I'm like.
- 17:27Dude, that does not make any
- 17:28sense whatsoever.
- 17:29Like financially, I don't care
- 17:31how many oil changes you do
- 17:32after the fact,
- 17:32we're never going to make up
- 17:33that loss.
- 17:34So there is a point where
- 17:36it does not make financial sense
- 17:37to sell a car.
- 17:39But the majority of the time,
- 17:41customers can get a good deal.
- 17:43The dealership can get a good
- 17:44profit, you know,
- 17:45just like buying milk at the
- 17:46grocery store.
- 17:47This is an ecosystem.
- 17:49Yeah, definitely.
- 17:50I know both of you guys
- 17:52have worked at different
- 17:53dealerships before, but what's
- 17:54one thing that you guys have
- 17:56learned working with pain or
- 17:57more specifically working with
- 17:58Adrian the Car Guy?
- 18:00Stop calling me Adrian the Car Guy.
- 18:01I know.
- 18:03It sounds like the most like
- 18:05bot things, like NPC things to
- 18:07say, like Adrian the Car Guy.
- 18:08guy.
- 18:09I was waiting.
- 18:10I was waiting.
- 18:11Because Adrian gets frustrated
- 18:13when people refer to him as
- 18:14Adrian the Car Guy.
- 18:15guy.
- 18:16And that is because people like
- 18:18the younger generation,
- 18:20like you guys,
- 18:21assume that Adrian got success
- 18:23off of TikTok,
- 18:24but he has like 15 years'
- 18:25worth of career invested into
- 18:27the car business.
- 18:28I was actually.
- 18:30Somewhat very successful before
- 18:33social media.
- 18:34Yeah.
- 18:34Social media just amplified
- 18:35everything.
- 18:36But I hate you young kids
- 18:37that only think that I'm good
- 18:39because of TikTok.
- 18:40Did you know me before then?
- 18:42No.
- 18:44I know you got 40,
- 18:4540 under 40 before TikTok.
- 18:48You were on the newspapers.
- 18:49I've been on the newspapers.
- 18:50That's right.
- 18:51But before that,
- 18:51I was a very successful finance
- 18:53director.
- 18:53You know,
- 18:54oh, I heard about that.
- 18:55We achieved a lot at the
- 18:56Toyota store.
- 18:58And everything in Volkswagen and
- 19:00we killed it at Volkswagen.
- 19:01I mean, you know,
- 19:02and then I started my career
- 19:03at Payne Motors at Dodge and
- 19:05we killed it over there too.
- 19:06So it just so happens that,
- 19:09you know, this whole social
- 19:10media thing, that's where I've
- 19:11been getting the majority of my,
- 19:14I guess, exposure through the
- 19:15through the news,
- 19:16through automotive news
- 19:17recognition, CBT news,
- 19:19automotive news.
- 19:20I mean, everything.
- 19:21And I feel like that's where
- 19:22people get it wrong.
- 19:23You already had your platform,
- 19:26you amplified it,
- 19:27and now everybody else is trying
- 19:29to copy you.
- 19:30They never had a platform,
- 19:31and now
- 19:31I do like one of his
- 19:32sayings that I think I'm going
- 19:33to adopt and I'm going to
- 19:34steal from him because it's
- 19:35really that good.
- 19:36Tell me if this doesn't sound
- 19:37too corny, but I like it
- 19:38a lot.
- 19:39Hey, so you're a customer, Kirby.
- 19:41Ask me.
- 19:42So,
- 19:43so what dealership are you in?
- 19:45Ask me.
- 19:46What dealership are you in?
- 19:48Look.
- 19:48If you can't see my face,
- 19:50it's not my place.
- 19:52I like that.
- 19:53Damn.
- 19:54I like that.
- 19:55And I'm
- 19:55going to give credit.
- 19:56I'm going to give credit to
- 19:57CC to Charlie.
- 19:59He did come up with that
- 20:00and everything.
- 20:00But I think it's awesome.
- 20:02You got to come up with yourself.
- 20:03That's actually crazy.
- 20:06That is crazy.
- 20:07But going back to the question,
- 20:08like, what is something that you
- 20:09guys have learned working here?
- 20:11Oh, and just to add it
- 20:13before you continue.
- 20:14Yeah.
- 20:14Charlie did start this way
- 20:16before we all did.
- 20:17Yes, the
- 20:18commercial cut everything up.
- 20:20He started this like 10,
- 20:2312, 13 years ago when nobody
- 20:24was doing it.
- 20:25And he's actually continuing to
- 20:27do it.
- 20:27So I just want to put
- 20:28that up.
- 20:29No, I feel bad.
- 20:32One of the things that I
- 20:34learned a lot in this,
- 20:35like, well, when I started
- 20:37working here, it was practically
- 20:39ins and outs and how everything
- 20:42connects.
- 20:43So, what I mean by that
- 20:45is, as salespeople,
- 20:48Help the tower and the tower
- 20:50also helps finance and the
- 20:52finance helps the building.
- 20:53Yeah, but then also service.
- 20:55We help service,
- 20:57service helps us,
- 20:58service helps the store.
- 21:00Yeah, so everything helps the store.
- 21:02We're all connected in a way.
- 21:04Service helps us,
- 21:05we help service,
- 21:06we help finance,
- 21:07finance helps tower, tower.
- 21:09It's like
- 21:10my favorite quote of all time
- 21:11is like, yeah,
- 21:12sell, sell, sales.
- 21:13The sales department sells the
- 21:15first car, the service
- 21:16department sells the next three.
- 21:18Yeah.
- 21:19So, if you have a really
- 21:21bad service department,
- 21:22you're not going to get that
- 21:23retention at all.
- 21:25That's 100% right.
- 21:26Things like that.
- 21:27And also, I mean,
- 21:31I didn't know much before coming here.
- 21:33I was just like,
- 21:35you know, if we didn't get
- 21:37a deal approved,
- 21:37I would tell the tower be
- 21:38like, hey, why can't we get
- 21:39them approved?
- 21:40But then it was starting to
- 21:41understand things like,
- 21:42okay, well, they don't have the
- 21:44best credit.
- 21:45I'm like, well,
- 21:46there's got to be a way
- 21:46we could try to get them done.
- 21:48But it wasn't until I started
- 21:49learning things like if we go
- 21:51to maybe something a little bit more
- 21:55less on price or even years
- 21:57because there's a thing called
- 21:58like a bank fee.
- 21:59And then I started,
- 22:00okay, so what you're saying is
- 22:02we're going to have to switch
- 22:02to a unit that can probably
- 22:03help us out.
- 22:04Yeah.
- 22:05He's like, yeah,
- 22:05like that, like switching,
- 22:07try landing them on this
- 22:08vehicle, maybe it'll help him out.
- 22:10And, you know,
- 22:10opening up more options.
- 22:12And that's one of the things
- 22:13that I learned is that.
- 22:16Sometimes a hard deal is just
- 22:18some obstacles along the way,
- 22:20and you just got to try
- 22:21to overcome those obstacles to
- 22:23try to put something together.
- 22:26Yeah, Kirby being all motivational.
- 22:29What about for you?
- 22:30I think I saw Caleb tear
- 22:31up a lot.
- 22:32I was like, damn.
- 22:32Trust in the managers,
- 22:34trust in management.
- 22:35Like, definitely, like,
- 22:36trust like for real.
- 22:37Which was your favorite manager?
- 22:38Oh, damn it,
- 22:39I hate that question, man.
- 22:41I don't like having favorites.
- 22:42No, I think they all have
- 22:44their own type of strength.
- 22:47Definitely, you know,
- 22:48Alex, he's very good at telling
- 22:50me to keep digging and digging
- 22:51and digging until I have
- 22:52something and something for the
- 22:53approval.
- 22:54So, before I used to just
- 22:55give up on a customer,
- 22:56they didn't get an approval and
- 22:56be like, damn,
- 22:57like, I can have no way.
- 22:59But
- 23:00he would tell me to just
- 23:01keep digging until I can find
- 23:02another co-signer or somebody.
- 23:03There's somebody gonna find a way.
- 23:05There's somebody can find a way
- 23:06to go to the store and
- 23:07buy a six-pack of beer.
- 23:09The customer is going to find
- 23:10a way to either get some
- 23:11money down.
- 23:12Yeah, let's do it.
- 23:13It's just good.
- 23:14They're going to find
- 23:15a way to get money down
- 23:16or a co-signer,
- 23:17which it always works.
- 23:18Like, I can go to like
- 23:19six or seven different people,
- 23:20and then one of them is
- 23:20going to land,
- 23:21or one of them is going
- 23:21to hit.
- 23:22Arnold's strength is definitely
- 23:23closing.
- 23:24Like, he tells me,
- 23:24like, this is what they
- 23:26He definitely taught me how to really
- 23:29know before I go and present
- 23:31numbers and how to understand
- 23:32each number.
- 23:33And like, but he would get
- 23:34mad at me.
- 23:35Like, he would get on me.
- 23:36He'll tell me stuff.
- 23:37Yeah.
- 23:37Not bad stuff, right?
- 23:38Like, not like,
- 23:38you know, stuff that
- 23:39I've heard it.
- 23:40It's bad.
- 23:40I
- 23:41like that our management team,
- 23:42we sweat the small,
- 23:44we sweat the small stuff.
- 23:46Like, we definitely do look at
- 23:47every detail to make sure that
- 23:49we have the right structure to
- 23:50make it work because we really
- 23:51are going to try for every
- 23:53single customer.
- 23:53I want to give a quick
- 23:54shout out to the tower because
- 23:56they are honestly awesome people.
- 23:58No, I know the dead A**.
- 23:59It's like
- 24:00dead A**.
- 24:00Like, I'm going to
- 24:00be honest.
- 24:01Who's your favorite manager?
- 24:02I don't have a favorite,
- 24:03believe it or not.
- 24:04Wow.
- 24:04All right.
- 24:05So, look, let me tell you something.
- 24:07Kirby's kind of forced to say
- 24:09those type of things.
- 24:09No, I'm going to put this
- 24:11out right now.
- 24:12He was paid to do it.
- 24:12Kirby.
- 24:14What?
- 24:15He was paid to do that.
- 24:16No.
- 24:16Go ahead
- 24:16and do sponsorship.
- 24:17And he's trying to put a
- 24:18plug in there.
- 24:18It's like, hey,
- 24:19guys, real quick,
- 24:20quick restroom break.
- 24:21Guys, shout out to Tower.
- 24:23No, no.
- 24:23Shout out to Borkholder Construction.
- 24:26This is
- 24:26why I'm saying the bio.
- 24:27This is why I'm saying
- 24:2820% off yourself.
- 24:29So.
- 24:30I have gone to both for
- 24:32personal advice.
- 24:34Okay.
- 24:35I've also asked,
- 24:36there was this one time when
- 24:37I was barely starting here and
- 24:39I wanted to get better.
- 24:41I had a really huge drive
- 24:43to want to be a better
- 24:44person, like do better in my job.
- 24:46I felt like I sucked horribly.
- 24:47Adrian would say that I sucked.
- 24:49He's not lying.
- 24:50So
- 24:51I asked Arnold,
- 24:52like, like on a 101,
- 24:53like, this was late at night.
- 24:55And I was like,
- 24:55hey, Arnold, like.
- 24:59told me that you used to
- 25:00sell this many cars in a month.
- 25:02So
- 25:04no, this was here,
- 25:05like in the story.
- 25:06Okay,
- 25:08oh my god,
- 25:08dude, y'all are making this
- 25:09sound even worse.
- 25:10I don't even want to continue
- 25:11it because it's gonna sound even
- 25:12worse.
- 25:15Okay, you have to ask
- 25:16him.
- 25:16I asked him,
- 25:17like, Arnold, can you help me
- 25:19how to present numbers and how
- 25:21to close better?
- 25:22Okay.
- 25:23And he was like, okay.
- 25:25So.
- 25:26After the meetings,
- 25:28we'd go to the conference room
- 25:29and then
- 25:31look, we would go to we
- 25:32would go to the conference room
- 25:33and this is like,
- 25:34okay, this is how you present numbers.
- 25:36This is what you go over.
- 25:37And then this,
- 25:39these are the payments.
- 25:41Things mess around when it comes
- 25:43down to the payments.
- 25:44It's not just,
- 25:44oh, like, you know,
- 25:45just mess around with the
- 25:46numbers with the payment.
- 25:47That's it.
- 25:47Things come to into consideration.
- 25:50Terms, down payment,
- 25:52everything messes around with payment.
- 25:55And then a slow motion kiss.
- 25:58Why do
- 25:58you guys have any
- 25:59gifts like that?
- 26:00No, well, that's good.
- 26:01I'm glad.
- 26:02I'm glad that you were able
- 26:03because Kirby has come up to
- 26:04me, come up to Arnold.
- 26:05I mean, I think Jeff even
- 26:07trained you, and you've gotten a
- 26:08lot better.
- 26:09You've had really bad luck
- 26:10recently, but it has gotten a
- 26:12lot better.
- 26:13Now, one thing that I do
- 26:14want to point out,
- 26:15Caleb, I don't know if you
- 26:15know this because he likes to
- 26:16keep this secret.
- 26:17Kirby has gotten two managers fired.
- 26:21Oh, damn.
- 26:23Yes, he has.
- 26:24Yes, he has.
- 26:24Are you serious?
- 26:25Yeah.
- 26:27Nah, for real.
- 26:28Nah, it wasn't on purpose.
- 26:29I just had to fire two
- 26:30managers, and I did it because
- 26:31of Kirby.
- 26:32What happened?
- 26:33That's how much I care about Kirby.
- 26:34I don't think we can say.
- 26:36Can I say why?
- 26:38You just have you can only
- 26:39say, I don't want to say names.
- 26:40No, no, no names,
- 26:41but you can say the story.
- 26:42Yeah, like what happens?
- 26:43So
- 26:44one of them,
- 26:45I was so bummed out that
- 26:47I didn't hit my bonus.
- 26:48I was off by a half deal.
- 26:50Yeah.
- 26:50I was so off.
- 26:52I'm not gonna say what happened,
- 26:54but I was so off and
- 26:55I showed up late.
- 26:57And
- 26:58oh yeah, he can I
- 26:59said the other person that
- 27:01showed up late that day too.
- 27:02Oh yeah,
- 27:03you can say,
- 27:03yeah, as long as yeah,
- 27:04okay, you know?
- 27:05Yeah, it was Sam.
- 27:06I showed up,
- 27:06I showed up late because I
- 27:07was really bummed out.
- 27:08I was depressed.
- 27:09And I have no idea why
- 27:10Sam was late.
- 27:12That it was the first day
- 27:14of the month.
- 27:15And later on throughout the day,
- 27:17he's like, hey,
- 27:17can you go get lunch?
- 27:18And.
- 27:19He calls me,
- 27:20he's like, hey,
- 27:20it was nice to meet you.
- 27:21It was nice working with you.
- 27:23I was like,
- 27:23oh, really?
- 27:24He's like, yeah,
- 27:24I got fired.
- 27:24I was like,
- 27:25oh, damn.
- 27:25He's like, I was confused.
- 27:27And then Adrian's like,
- 27:28yeah, he got fired because,
- 27:29oh, no, Alex told me,
- 27:30he's like, he got fired because
- 27:31you and Sam were late.
- 27:33I was like, damn.
- 27:35What?
- 27:35Yeah.
- 27:36And he was,
- 27:37he was like,
- 27:38Sam and Kirby were in his team.
- 27:40Yeah.
- 27:42And then
- 27:43the other manager was,
- 27:44I was working this deal.
- 27:46He, he was, he
- 27:46was manager number one, R.I.P.
- 27:48All right.
- 27:48Next one.
- 27:49The other one,
- 27:50he was cool, dude.
- 27:51But the thing is,
- 27:51this is what happened.
- 27:52So we were trying to close
- 27:54this deal.
- 27:55It was a referral from a
- 27:56TikTok client that we got approved.
- 27:58You know, we were there for
- 28:00like six hours.
- 28:02I remember that there was more.
- 28:03It was like you were working.
- 28:05No, we were six hours in.
- 28:06Oh, yeah.
- 28:06We were six hours in.
- 28:08Didn't you even talk to that customer?
- 28:09No, I didn't,
- 28:10but he did.
- 28:11We were six hours in into
- 28:12this deal.
- 28:13And then can I say the
- 28:15previous manager that was also
- 28:16here or not?
- 28:18Did that previous manager get hired?
- 28:21Did he?
- 28:22I mean, he was used cars.
- 28:26Oh, yeah.
- 28:27Can I say that?
- 28:27Yeah,
- 28:28no names that are no longer.
- 28:29Okay, okay, fine.
- 28:30No names
- 28:30that are
- 28:30no longer.
- 28:31So the previous used car manager
- 28:32was like, hey,
- 28:33do you need help?
- 28:34And that manager was like,
- 28:35no, no, no,
- 28:36no, I'm good.
- 28:37I got this.
- 28:37I could do this.
- 28:38He was like,
- 28:39really, I got this.
- 28:40I don't need any help.
- 28:42I got this.
- 28:43So he's like,
- 28:45man, he's like,
- 28:45I keep like,
- 28:46you know.
- 28:47Little obstacles here and there.
- 28:49That previous used car manager
- 28:51was like, I'll help you out.
- 28:52He's like, no,
- 28:52no, no.
- 28:53So then we're just there waiting
- 28:55for an approval.
- 28:57And he's like,
- 28:58I'll be right back.
- 28:59I gotta go get some extra
- 29:01clothes or something.
- 29:03He leaves, bro.
- 29:04And my customers are just there.
- 29:06And I'm like,
- 29:07yeah, so what's up with the
- 29:09approval?
- 29:10That's what I asked the used
- 29:10car manager.
- 29:11He's like, I don't know.
- 29:13Your manager
- 29:14doesn't want any help.
- 29:16And then I call him,
- 29:17he's not answering,
- 29:19and then I'm just there.
- 29:20I'm like, hey,
- 29:21yeah, like, can you just help
- 29:22me out and stuff?
- 29:22How did you find out about it?
- 29:25What?
- 29:25That he got fired.
- 29:26Oh, I didn't know until the
- 29:27next day.
- 29:30Was this recent?
- 29:31No, dude, this is like a
- 29:32few months back.
- 29:33Probably what?
- 29:34Like in January,
- 29:35March, April.
- 29:36And I was like
- 29:36around May.
- 29:37We were in NADA.
- 29:38Yeah, we were.
- 29:39Yeah, we have footage of it,
- 29:40me firing someone over the phone.
- 29:43You serious,
- 29:44yeah, there's some footage out there.
- 29:47See, that's how much I care
- 29:48about Kirby that I want him
- 29:50to be around the best of
- 29:52the best.
- 29:53And if they're not paying
- 29:54attention to him,
- 29:55I don't know why
- 29:55they're not going to be here
- 29:56for a long time.
- 29:57I take care of my salespeople
- 29:59more than I take care of
- 30:00my manager.
- 30:00So if you want to be
- 30:01my manager,
- 30:02You can be very careful.
- 30:04Yeah, that's why I don't want
- 30:05to move up to management.
- 30:06Yeah, screw that.
- 30:07I'm good.
- 30:08Kirby's been wanting not wanting
- 30:10to go into management forever.
- 30:12But that's good.
- 30:13I mean, that's not a problem.
- 30:14That's why, like I said,
- 30:15I think Kirby's had a great
- 30:17following online.
- 30:18People come look for him now
- 30:20and everything.
- 30:20And I think Kirby's got a
- 30:21bright future for whatever he
- 30:22wants to do.
- 30:23I did promise him in
- 30:25the last podcast,
- 30:26but you weren't here.
- 30:27Oh, damn.
- 30:28Yeah, so just so everyone knows,
- 30:31eventually, Stellantis is
- 30:32bringing the SRT brand back.
- 30:34Right, so you back in the
- 30:36day, what used to happen is
- 30:37that you had your SRT Dodge
- 30:42Challenger, SRT Charger.
- 30:43They weren't called Dodges,
- 30:44they were SRT.
- 30:45That was the brand.
- 30:46And you had the Viper,
- 30:47the charger.
- 30:48So, what was the logo?
- 30:49SRT.
- 30:50Yeah,
- 30:51it did not have a Dodge
- 30:53badge anywhere.
- 30:55It was just straight up SRT.
- 30:57It was like its own line.
- 30:58So the SRT.
- 30:59Yeah, so
- 30:59it's like Dodge,
- 31:00Chrysler, Ram.
- 31:01And SRT.
- 31:02So they're bringing that back in
- 31:03late 2027.
- 31:04Wow.
- 31:05So back in the day,
- 31:06they used to have an SRT
- 31:07specialist ambassador and everything.
- 31:09Kirby's going to be that guy.
- 31:10So, you know,
- 31:11he's going to have his own SRT.
- 31:13He's going to be the only
- 31:14one certified with SRT.
- 31:15He's going to be the only
- 31:15one allowed to sell SRT.
- 31:17He's going to be,
- 31:18that's the SRT.
- 31:19No.
- 31:21Heck yeah.
- 31:22And when that happens,
- 31:22I'll give him an official
- 31:23office, not a cubicle.
- 31:26Then we have one life.
- 31:28We need an office, though.
- 31:29We don't have an office.
- 31:29Yeah,
- 31:30he'll fire someone.
- 31:31Yeah,
- 31:33I'll get the little playground
- 31:34that we have over there.
- 31:36They can't one over there next
- 31:37to finance.
- 31:38That one's open.
- 31:40Hey, yeah.
- 31:41Tint the windows, tinted.
- 31:43If I have to,
- 31:43I'll get Hector out of there
- 31:45and I'll put you in there.
- 31:46Here we go.
- 31:46Put Hector
- 31:47in a cubicle for finance, bro.
- 31:50That would be crazy.
- 31:52Get Raul out of there.
- 31:53Okay, so I do have some.
- 31:55These questions are.
- 31:57Basically, what is like
- 31:58dealership life questions?
- 32:00So, I need I want they're
- 32:01gonna be a little bit rapid
- 32:02fire and I need you guys
- 32:03to answer them honestly.
- 32:05Okay, so question number one:
- 32:07Who is the biggest drama queen
- 32:09at the dealership?
- 32:11Oh my god,
- 32:12Caleb, go first.
- 32:13I know the answer.
- 32:14Yeah, say it who yeah,
- 32:15if they're
- 32:16employed here, you guys can talk
- 32:17smack.
- 32:17Yeah.
- 32:18Like, I don't have the.
- 32:19I'm only getting
- 32:20in trouble.
- 32:20No, I won't get in trouble.
- 32:22Bro, I would.
- 32:26Kirby?
- 32:27Bro, I would, dude.
- 32:28Okay.
- 32:28I'm sorry.
- 32:31Why do you think?
- 32:31There's some explanation.
- 32:32Dude, I rage bait the crap
- 32:33out of him, dude.
- 32:34And does
- 32:35it work?
- 32:35Yes.
- 32:36But I
- 32:36don't even try to
- 32:37rage bait him.
- 32:37Like, I don't even try.
- 32:39He just gets mad.
- 32:40Like, he'll.
- 32:41He will literally go sit next
- 32:42to me
- 32:42like when the Chrysler van,
- 32:44when the Pacifica was inside,
- 32:45dude, I would sit there and
- 32:46he'll go sit in back of me.
- 32:47And then
- 32:47he'd get mad at me for
- 32:48being annoying.
- 32:49I'm like, why are you getting
- 32:50mad at a 24-year-old dude?
- 32:51You're like 40.
- 32:52You're 24?
- 32:54Yeah.
- 32:54Damn.
- 32:55Yeah, we were.
- 32:56I was there like in the tower.
- 32:58And sorry, we were there like
- 33:00where the Pacifica was.
- 33:01And he's all like,
- 33:02no, I'm not getting mad.
- 33:03And then he's all like,
- 33:04but if I do have to
- 33:05throw hands, I will throw hands.
- 33:06I'm like,
- 33:06why are you getting mad, bro?
- 33:08Like, chill out.
- 33:08And he's like,
- 33:09I'm not mad.
- 33:10And he just walks off.
- 33:13So who is it for you?
- 33:14Who is it for you?
- 33:15Hold up, let me.
- 33:16I want to find the photo
- 33:17real quick.
- 33:17Just because it's funny,
- 33:19it's funny.
- 33:19Drama queen.
- 33:20Can I can I can I
- 33:21show this?
- 33:21Like he got
- 33:22mad about an emoji.
- 33:29He gets
- 33:29mad about that.
- 33:31He's like, Y'all keep
- 33:32sending your
- 33:32stupid pictures
- 33:33in the chat.
- 33:34I'm tired
- 33:35of it.
- 33:35You guys think you're funny and
- 33:36nobody's laughing.
- 33:37I was like,
- 33:37bro, everybody's laughing.
- 33:39You guys are picking on him.
- 33:41Oh my god.
- 33:41Okay.
- 33:42Next question: Who spends the
- 33:44most time pretending to work?
- 33:47Kirby?
- 33:49Who's honestly, yeah.
- 33:51Wait, you're saying me?
- 33:52No, no, no,
- 33:53you go.
- 33:55Who spends the most
- 33:56time at the dealership
- 33:57pretending to work?
- 33:59You know exactly who.
- 34:00Okay, I'm gonna be honest with Sam.
- 34:05Caleb?
- 34:06Sam.
- 34:07Really?
- 34:08Who would you say?
- 34:10Wow.
- 34:11You're probably gonna say manager.
- 34:12I think Sam,
- 34:13you know.
- 34:13Yeah, well, why are you surprised?
- 34:15When he's
- 34:16working, he works.
- 34:17Yeah, he works.
- 34:18When he's
- 34:18not, like, he's on the phone.
- 34:20He's on the phone and he's
- 34:21all like he's doing voice messages.
- 34:29I wish we could talk
- 34:30about it.
- 34:31We can't say,
- 34:32we can't say.
- 34:32But who would you say?
- 34:34You're probably going to say a
- 34:35manager.
- 34:35Arnold, 100%.
- 34:36Oh, my God,
- 34:37of course.
- 34:37Oh, yeah.
- 34:37Arnold, yeah.
- 34:39I can't
- 34:39feel like, hey,
- 34:40like, like, hey,
- 34:41the customer is going to leave.
- 34:42He's like, okay,
- 34:43tell me to go.
- 34:45You don't want to talk to
- 34:45him now.
- 34:45He's like,
- 34:46no, just
- 34:46let him.
- 34:46Just let him.
- 34:47There you go.
- 34:48And then the customer doesn't leave.
- 34:49Yeah.
- 34:50All righty, guys,
- 34:51next question: Who in the
- 34:52dealership takes the longest to
- 34:54close the deal?
- 34:56I would say myself, dude.
- 34:58Honestly, you hold the record.
- 34:59Yeah, I think
- 35:00I could.
- 35:01No, no, no, no.
- 35:02I think that's something.
- 35:03I think it's Kirby.
- 35:04I think it's something we can
- 35:05all say that we all have
- 35:07had at some point.
- 35:08Yeah, you know what?
- 35:09It's both
- 35:09of you guys.
- 35:09Both of you guys.
- 35:10Cause remember that time that
- 35:12that customer, you stayed with
- 35:13him until like 11 p.m.
- 35:15And he still walked out on you?
- 35:17I was going to say which one?
- 35:18Because I've had that so happen
- 35:19so many times.
- 35:20I'm going to say my answer
- 35:22is going to be Kirby.
- 35:23What customer was I'll
- 35:25be there with you, man.
- 35:25He was
- 35:26a TikTok one.
- 35:26Like, Adrian even talked to him,
- 35:28and we just he was just
- 35:29like, no.
- 35:30Yeah, but those TikTok leads
- 35:31take forever to close.
- 35:32True.
- 35:33And then, but you're a guy
- 35:34on the other hand.
- 35:35Yeah, no, I've always wanted to
- 35:36sell a car,
- 35:37but I had a point where
- 35:39I was like,
- 35:40I don't even care if I
- 35:40sell that anymore.
- 35:41I don't want to sell it.
- 35:42Yeah, I just have,
- 35:43there's one thing that I learned
- 35:44in the military,
- 35:45and it's about patience.
- 35:47I think that's what helped me
- 35:48on this deal because I never
- 35:50had a patience thing.
- 35:51I think everybody lost patience
- 35:52with that customer.
- 35:53Yeah, but
- 35:53I still kept like I was
- 35:54just waiting and waiting and waiting.
- 35:55I was like,
- 35:56what were you telling the
- 35:57customer when we were going to close?
- 35:58Like, you have 30 minutes.
- 35:59He's like, I'm not going to
- 36:00say extra or something.
- 36:02What?
- 36:03You were sending a message.
- 36:06No, no, no,
- 36:06no, no, not like that.
- 36:07It wasn't like that.
- 36:08He's like, and that's how he
- 36:10gets the managers fired.
- 36:11No, no, no.
- 36:13What happened?
- 36:13What happened?
- 36:14The thing is,
- 36:14when he was like,
- 36:16oh, it's because I'm here at dinner.
- 36:18Oh, he had left.
- 36:20He went to go.
- 36:21So he
- 36:21left mid-deal The guy was like,
- 36:22No, no, no,
- 36:23I'm not going to take it.
- 36:24He leaves, go eats dinner.
- 36:25I'm hungry.
- 36:26I missed
- 36:26out on my lunch.
- 36:27I told him I'm going to
- 36:28miss my lunch to work your dealership.
- 36:29Yeah, he can't even eat.
- 36:30And he
- 36:31would sent me
- 36:31a picture of him eating food.
- 36:32I'm like, okay.
- 36:33And then he started saying,
- 36:34you know what?
- 36:34I might take the truck.
- 36:35I'm like, all right, bro.
- 36:36You want you left mid-deal when
- 36:38I had everything ready for you
- 36:39and you wanted to go eat
- 36:40and send me a picture of
- 36:41you eating as an insult.
- 36:42I was like, man.
- 36:44And I was like,
- 36:44all right, we had 30 minutes
- 36:45till we closed.
- 36:46I was like,
- 36:46all right, you got 30 minutes
- 36:47to make it back in.
- 36:48And he's like,
- 36:49just wait, just wait.
- 36:49I'm like, dude,
- 36:50literally at 30 minutes,
- 36:51bro, we're going to close.
- 36:52Everybody's already closing.
- 36:53Yeah.
- 36:53And we had no customers left.
- 36:54Like, everybody was already
- 36:55ready to leave.
- 36:55I'm like, come in.
- 36:57I
- 36:57get in my car.
- 36:58I'm driving out.
- 36:59I'm about to leave.
- 37:00And he gets here.
- 37:01Damn.
- 37:02Like, I turn off my
- 37:03car and I use my Z
- 37:05that day.
- 37:05Yeah.
- 37:06So it's hard to turn it
- 37:07back on after you turn it off.
- 37:08That's a Z.
- 37:09My 350Z.
- 37:10You have a 350Z?
- 37:12I never seen it.
- 37:13Yeah, it's there.
- 37:13It's a great one.
- 37:14I have that.
- 37:14I brought my other Nissan today,
- 37:16but I turned it off and
- 37:18like turning it on is such
- 37:19an issue because the starter is
- 37:20like old.
- 37:20It's already old on it.
- 37:21It's the only thing I got
- 37:22to replace.
- 37:23But I'm like,
- 37:24I'm going to turn it off
- 37:24because I'm going to take the chance.
- 37:25I'm going to
- 37:25work a deal again.
- 37:27You're going to sell it.
- 37:28Yeah, he comes in,
- 37:29looks at it.
- 37:29He's like, okay,
- 37:30I'll be back tomorrow.
- 37:31I'm like,
- 37:34those are the struggles sometimes.
- 37:36You know, we spend 12,
- 37:3713, 14 hours a day here,
- 37:39sometimes 15 hours at a dealership.
- 37:41So sometimes, you know.
- 37:43It can get frustrating at times.
- 37:45Definitely.
- 37:46But at the end of the
- 37:46day, it's all worth it whenever,
- 37:49like, his, and I'm gonna go
- 37:50back to his customer.
- 37:51His customer was so grateful.
- 37:53Like, they were so nice.
- 37:55They were, I mean,
- 37:55everything was good.
- 37:56Like, we're willing to put in
- 37:57the work.
- 37:58Just don't treat the salespeople
- 38:00like crap.
- 38:00Yeah, so.
- 38:01You know, they have no option.
- 38:03And like my girl,
- 38:04my girl called me before I left.
- 38:06She was like,
- 38:06hey, I'm already making dinner.
- 38:08And the customer was there.
- 38:09And he's like,
- 38:11He was like,
- 38:11oh, so you're going to leave?
- 38:12I'm like, no,
- 38:12no, like, I'll tell my girl
- 38:13to wait or whatever.
- 38:14It's cool.
- 38:14Like, I'll wait here.
- 38:15And he's like,
- 38:16no, I'm going to leave.
- 38:16Call, come back tomorrow.
- 38:17So I'm over there in the
- 38:18front trying to start my car.
- 38:21It's a manual,
- 38:22so I have to press the
- 38:22clutch, but I'm like there
- 38:23pressing the gas to get it going.
- 38:26I'm like, thank God it started again.
- 38:30Who's more likely to forget to
- 38:32follow up with the customer?
- 38:34Oh, do both of you guys.
- 38:35Yeah, me.
- 38:37I have examples
- 38:37today of you guys not following
- 38:39up with customers.
- 38:40Yeah, me not
- 38:40following up costing me a deal,
- 38:42literally.
- 38:42Yeah.
- 38:42This month.
- 38:43Yeah, last month.
- 38:44Yeah, with you.
- 38:45Who's most likely to become a
- 38:48general manager off of the sales team?
- 38:50No, it has to be somebody like
- 38:53somebody that's like very
- 38:56professional, but also like
- 38:57knows all the different types of
- 38:59people, like how to communicate.
- 39:02It would definitely be.
- 39:03I see Victor.
- 39:05Victor, he'd be good.
- 39:07I see.
- 39:08Yeah, he's yeah.
- 39:08Like, he'd be the guy like
- 39:09with a cigar in his desk
- 39:10and like
- 39:11bring me mad.
- 39:12Yeah, because
- 39:12Victor kind of just
- 39:13like understands everybody.
- 39:14He's just a chill dude.
- 39:15Yeah, he really
- 39:16doesn't like get any issues or
- 39:17nothing.
- 39:17Like every time I talk to
- 39:18him, he'll either call me out
- 39:19or like.
- 39:20You know, tell me something to do.
- 39:21He'll give me some great advice.
- 39:22When I do something wrong,
- 39:23he's like, Don't do that.
- 39:24He'll call you out.
- 39:25Yeah.
- 39:26I liked
- 39:26Who is most likely to spend
- 39:29their entire commission check in
- 39:31one weekend?
- 39:32Caleb.
- 39:33Yeah.
- 39:33Kirby on Pokemon cards.
- 39:35No, I know.
- 39:36Kirby's a little bit smarter
- 39:37with money.
- 39:37Caleb doesn't care.
- 39:38Dude, me and my.
- 39:39I get my biggest mistake
- 39:41was getting my girl in Pokemon.
- 39:42Wow, dude, we were going every
- 39:43day after work.
- 39:44No way, yeah.
- 39:45He was spending like $700 on
- 39:47one day.
- 39:47I would send him pictures
- 39:48of like me and my girl
- 39:49getting stuff, and it was like
- 39:50a whole table full of Pokemon stuff.
- 39:51Oh my god, yeah.
- 39:53Who is most likely to get
- 39:56caught sleeping at work?
- 39:58Raul!
- 40:00You, you won't
- 40:01even either.
- 40:02We caught him twice.
- 40:03Oh, for real.
- 40:04We have pictures.
- 40:05Raul said Raul came up to
- 40:06me and he said that that
- 40:07was AI.
- 40:08Nah,
- 40:08nah, dude, he's
- 40:10just mad
- 40:10that we
- 40:10got him.
- 40:12He doesn't take accountability.
- 40:13He's like,
- 40:15boss, before you see that
- 40:15picture, by the way,
- 40:16I hadn't seen the picture yet.
- 40:17They're like, that picture,
- 40:18boss, before you see that
- 40:19picture, it's AI.
- 40:20Yeah, is most likely to go
- 40:22viral on TikTok?
- 40:24Honestly, Sam.
- 40:26Sam.
- 40:27Sam.
- 40:27Sam.
- 40:28Yeah, Sam's comments.
- 40:29Dude, Sam is like,
- 40:31he'll do a video and he'll
- 40:32just go viral.
- 40:33But I think you guys,
- 40:34I think both of you guys
- 40:35are also capable of going viral
- 40:37for sure.
- 40:38It just takes one video to
- 40:39take off.
- 40:40It's really interesting.
- 40:42I really still need to figure
- 40:43out that whole thing because
- 40:46I'll get thousands of views in
- 40:47a video.
- 40:48And I don't even have that
- 40:48many followers.
- 40:49Dude, I
- 40:50was getting, so for a
- 40:51little bit, like I was making
- 40:52these weird videos.
- 40:52My girl get mad at me
- 40:53when I do it.
- 40:54I was making like videos of
- 40:55just me walking.
- 40:56And like I would put like
- 40:57a just like a word saying
- 40:59like a motivational saying and
- 41:00just be like me walking slow motion.
- 41:02Dude, they were getting like
- 41:0310,000 views, 20,000 views.
- 41:05And it was just the same
- 41:05video every day I
- 41:06would post at the same time
- 41:07of me walking.
- 41:08Caleb, And the last question I
- 41:09have that's rapid fire: who's
- 41:11more likely to quit the car
- 41:13business first?
- 41:15Well, most of them already left,
- 41:17but I already knew.
- 41:18I guess, like,
- 41:19in the current
- 41:20car business for fun.
- 41:21Yeah, honestly, I love this
- 41:22stuff, man.
- 41:23It's fun.
- 41:24Kirby will not.
- 41:25There's no way.
- 41:26I love my product.
- 41:27I love what I do.
- 41:28I love communicating with people.
- 41:30You know, it's fun.
- 41:31I love interacting too with even
- 41:33the social media team.
- 41:34I love doing what
- 41:35I do.
- 41:35There's been times where I've
- 41:36been offered like money to quit,
- 41:38like at other jobs on the
- 41:39official, but not.
- 41:40I got offered some jobs with
- 41:41some other dealers.
- 41:42I won't leave.
- 41:43I wouldn't sell out.
- 41:44I can't.
- 41:45I just like it here too
- 41:46much, man.
- 41:46Honestly,
- 41:48I'm not going to say names.
- 41:49You're probably watching,
- 41:50but I'm not going to go
- 41:51work over that, bro.
- 41:54I'm good here, dude.
- 41:55This is my answer.
- 41:56This is my official.
- 41:57Yeah, because the
- 41:57last time I did
- 41:58that, it did not play out
- 41:59well again.
- 42:00I'm like, no,
- 42:01I'm good.
- 42:01So like, I'm going to stay
- 42:03where I'm at right now because
- 42:04I'm good here.
- 42:06Stability is important.
- 42:07It is.
- 42:07And something, the car business,
- 42:09no matter if you're here,
- 42:10there, wherever, it's going to
- 42:11be ups and downs, right?
- 42:13It's just where you're most
- 42:14comfortable at working at.
- 42:15At the end of the day,
- 42:16if you feel comfortable working
- 42:17at that place,
- 42:18I mean, why not?
- 42:19And if you don't,
- 42:20then leave.
- 42:21Yeah.
- 42:22You know?
- 42:23You know, we had we've had
- 42:24a lot of guys that they
- 42:25come in here,
- 42:26and no matter what,
- 42:27it's always everything sucks,
- 42:29everything is bad,
- 42:30everything is negative.
- 42:31And then they go to the
- 42:32next dealership, they lost their
- 42:33one, two, same thing.
- 42:34So then they hop around in
- 42:36a whole year,
- 42:37they'll be at five different
- 42:38dealerships.
- 42:38At some point,
- 42:39those people have to look at
- 42:40themselves and say,
- 42:41hey, maybe it's not the
- 42:41dealership, maybe it's you.
- 42:43Maybe you suck.
- 42:44100%
- 42:45slow and it's going to pick up.
- 42:47To answer that question,
- 42:47I would say it would be
- 42:50I'm not saying any,
- 42:51like anybody.
- 42:52Like, I'm not going to give
- 42:53a definitive answer,
- 42:54but it would be like somebody
- 42:55that's new and never worked in
- 42:57the automotive industry where
- 42:59they're not used to the schedule.
- 43:01They're not used to having some
- 43:03bad months.
- 43:04Cause, again, there are some
- 43:05great months, there are some bad
- 43:06months, and there's some mid-months.
- 43:08But sometimes some people are so
- 43:09used to considering consistency.
- 43:12And I'll be,
- 43:13you know,
- 43:13I'll put a name like,
- 43:14I'll say it's like my brother,
- 43:15you know?
- 43:16But your brother's done it for
- 43:18a long time.
- 43:18But
- 43:18this was weird because your
- 43:19brother made
- 43:19like a lot of money.
- 43:21Your brother was like the number
- 43:22one salesperson.
- 43:23Yeah, but
- 43:23that's the thing with him.
- 43:24Like, he'll
- 43:25make a lot of money
- 43:26and then he'll put the money
- 43:27away and then he'll take some
- 43:28time off.
- 43:29And then he'll come back all
- 43:30of a sudden and make like
- 43:30the store a lot of money.
- 43:31He'll make himself a lot of money.
- 43:33But the answer is leaving the
- 43:34automotive industry.
- 43:36He did.
- 43:36He left.
- 43:37He left.
- 43:37He went to the oil rigs
- 43:38No, yeah.
- 43:38But I know
- 43:39that my brother's always been
- 43:40good at making money for some reason.
- 43:42Yeah.
- 43:42Like a lot of money at
- 43:44a short period of time.
- 43:45And then he'll go and like disappear.
- 43:46No, yeah, but that's
- 43:47what I mean.
- 43:48He was at Ford,
- 43:49then he left the oil rigs,
- 43:50and then he went back to
- 43:51the bank.
- 43:51When he was at Ford,
- 43:52dude, he
- 43:52was making money, bro.
- 43:53Like, that guy was making money.
- 43:54I like he
- 43:55would, he would tell
- 43:55me like he would tell me,
- 43:56like, you want me to give
- 43:57you a commission check for
- 43:58my money?
- 43:59I'm like, yeah, sure.
- 44:00And he would
- 44:01help me
- 44:01out, bro, sometimes.
- 44:02I was like, damn.
- 44:03And then when
- 44:03we're in the oil
- 44:04field, he would make money somehow.
- 44:05Like, he'd be
- 44:06making like triple as much as
- 44:07I am.
- 44:07He'd be in his truck all
- 44:08the time.
- 44:09And I'd
- 44:10be out there like swinging hammers.
- 44:11Like, swinging hammers.
- 44:13Yeah.
- 44:13Wow.
- 44:14Well, I think that's all the
- 44:15questions I have.
- 44:16How So,
- 44:17Kirby, any last
- 44:20comments for people that don't
- 44:21know you want to buy cars
- 44:23from you or anything?
- 44:26Here we go.
- 44:32That's my statement.
- 44:34I love that.
- 44:35There's no such thing as bad content.
- 44:36Bad content is
- 44:37no content.
- 44:38Yep.
- 44:38That's very true.
- 44:39That's right.
- 44:40Alrighty, guys.
- 44:41But there is,
- 44:41but to my ad,
- 44:42but there is,
- 44:43you just gotta be careful sometimes.
- 44:45And the thing is,
- 44:46is that we gotta put good
- 44:47content out, we gotta put fun
- 44:48content, we gotta put
- 44:49educational content.
- 44:50And yeah, we'll screw around and
- 44:52we're not gonna be uptight about it.
- 44:54But we gotta understand in the
- 44:55automotive industry, we're all
- 44:56together.
- 44:57And then at six in the
- 44:58morning, I'll get a call from
- 44:59an owner and be like,
- 45:01Adrian, I know it's not you,
- 45:02but it's one of your boys.
- 45:03And I'm like,
- 45:03you don't have to say who
- 45:04it is.
- 45:04It's probably Caleb, right?
- 45:06Do you actually get calls though?
- 45:07Yes, all the time.
- 45:09I only tell you to remove
- 45:10stuff when I get calls.
- 45:11But like, who called?
- 45:12The owner
- 45:13of the company called?
- 45:14Yes.
- 45:15Whatever happened to that car
- 45:17wash video.
- 45:17Oh, we're going to do it.
- 45:19Really?
- 45:19Oh, yeah.
- 45:20Okay.
- 45:21How is that?
- 45:22Content ideas.
- 45:23What do you think?
- 45:24What would be a new video
- 45:26that we can do that pushes
- 45:27the envelope but doesn't cross
- 45:28the line?
- 45:29The car
- 45:29wash for sure.
- 45:30Water balloon fight.
- 45:32I still think that one will
- 45:33still cross the line.
- 45:34Why?
- 45:35He's just washing
- 45:35a car.
- 45:36He's going above and beyond for
- 45:37his customers.
- 45:38But
- 45:39I don't want to give it
- 45:40a sneak peek.
- 45:41All right, so
- 45:42now we're signing off.
- 45:43All right, we're done, guys.
- 45:44So
- 45:45this was the first.
- 45:46Quadruple.
- 45:47This was the first.
- 45:48How would you say four people
- 45:50at once?
- 45:51Quad squad squad.
- 45:53Squad.
- 45:54Squad.
- 45:56This is the first time we're
- 45:57trying out the four people
- 45:58podcast to see how it comes out.
- 46:00So we're signing off, guys.
- 46:01Thank you very much.
- 46:02Thank you
- 46:02for watching the Smoke Break podcast.
- 46:03We'll see you guys in the
- 46:04next one.
- 46:04Put in the comments below who
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