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The Bond Debate Returns + Pooh Shiesty’s Day in Court Approaches · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I'm the homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
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Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that,
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Speaker 1: right Lauren, Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Laura l Rosa
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Speaker 1: and this is another episode of the Latest with Laura
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Speaker 1: l Rosa. This is your really dig on all things
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Speaker 1: pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations that
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Speaker 1: shake the room. Baby. Now, we always start off with
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the grind check in and this
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Speaker 1: episode is no different. So let's do it now. I
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Speaker 1: am not like a big sports fan girl, so like this,
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Speaker 1: this is me. Okay, Like I'll go to the parties,
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Speaker 1: I'll get cute, I'll enjoy a little drink, you drink
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Speaker 1: a little good time. I understand what's happening, even though
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Speaker 1: I don't know all the plays. I used to work
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Speaker 1: at a gym in college, very fun factory work at
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Speaker 1: a gym in college, and we used to have the
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Speaker 1: intermural sports, and everybody who worked at the gym had
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Speaker 1: to participate in working the games of the intermural sports
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Speaker 1: and it was extra money. So I used to volunteer
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Speaker 1: and do it even when I wasn't assigned to. So
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Speaker 1: like the basketball games, the football games, I would have
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Speaker 1: to work them, so sometimes I would have to keep scoring,
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Speaker 1: so I would have to know at least, you know,
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Speaker 1: on a basic level what was going on to be
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Speaker 1: able to like watch the score and like, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy time in life, y'all. But listen to college.
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Speaker 1: You do what you gotta do to get by. So
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Speaker 1: I can go to like a sporting event and not
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Speaker 1: be like completely oblivious. But I don't have like a
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Speaker 1: team that I like die hard, go hard for. And
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Speaker 1: let me tell y'all something yesterday the way that the
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Speaker 1: Knicks was getting ready the Knicks fans were getting ready
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Speaker 1: for the game that went down last night. Baby, I'm
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Speaker 1: telling y'all, like I got out of New York City
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Speaker 1: no lotter than like ten am. I was not playing
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Speaker 1: any games. I think I even missed our production media
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Speaker 1: after the Breakfast club yesterday because I was determined not
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Speaker 1: to be stuck trying to get out of New York City.
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Speaker 1: People were already parking their cars, like, you know, anywhere
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Speaker 1: they could near train stations. I was grilling yesterday last night,
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Speaker 1: and I saw people like walking to different train stations
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Speaker 1: trying to get over the bridge. You're going to New
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Speaker 1: York in their next gear. The fact that people would
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Speaker 1: want to be in the mix of that is crazy
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Speaker 1: to me, but it shows me how much of a
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Speaker 1: diehard fan I am not. I'm like a I'm like
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Speaker 1: a cute fan. Like if it's cute and you want
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Speaker 1: to invite me out because it looks good, and like
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Speaker 1: I can dress up and look good, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: and I'm always done for a good time. But no,
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Speaker 1: with Trump being at the game, I mean everything is
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Speaker 1: shutting down. I know Drewski was supposed to have like
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Speaker 1: this big meetup and Hero Square yesterday, which is not
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Speaker 1: too far, like just like a handful of blocks over
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Speaker 1: from Madison Square Garden for those of you guys who
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Speaker 1: don't live in New York Madison Square Gardens where the
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Speaker 1: game it went down yesterday, the Nickson Spurs. I when
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Speaker 1: I saw the flyer, I thought it was crazy that
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Speaker 1: he would even do it. But I was like, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's a good way to cause mayhem, which is it
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Speaker 1: works for him because he's a viral online comedian. They
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Speaker 1: do all those meetups and stuff like that. But I
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Speaker 1: was like, that is going to be an insane thing.
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Speaker 1: We had one of our social media team members from
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Eli shout out to Okyo Eli on stream
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Speaker 1: w's in the chat we had him or he just
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Speaker 1: wanted to We didn't have him. He just wanted to
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Speaker 1: go out and he was like streaming everything that was
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Speaker 1: like downtown yesterday and like you know, he was there
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Speaker 1: when they were telling people that they had shut down
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Speaker 1: the drew Ski meet up. It didn't even get shut down.
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Speaker 1: It didn't even have a chance to begin, and they
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Speaker 1: told him it wasn't allowed to happen. So Yo, maybe
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Speaker 1: I should reach out and get some more details. Like
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Speaker 1: I wonder if police and like fire Marshall saw it
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Speaker 1: and called him, Like I wonder how they knew, Like
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Speaker 1: how did they know to shut it down, because it's
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Speaker 1: not like people were, well, there were some people there
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Speaker 1: waiting for drew Ski, according to what I was told
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Speaker 1: by you know, Eli, who was actually there on the scene.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think it was mayhem to the point
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Speaker 1: where they would know that, like, you know, like drew
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Speaker 1: Ski's coming here, we want to shut it down, unless
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Speaker 1: it had gotten so big and cross nyp's radar that
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Speaker 1: they were like nah, uh uh no, they're even putting
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Speaker 1: like a walking band on some locations. So the NYPD
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Speaker 1: news x account yesterday posted before the game. Tonight's Game
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Speaker 1: three the NBA Finals an exciting time for New York
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Speaker 1: City and we want everyone to be able to enjoy
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Speaker 1: the game safely. But tonight's presidential visit, there will be
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Speaker 1: extremely tight security measures in and around MSG, which is
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Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden that the NYPD and Secret Service have
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Speaker 1: planned together. Starting at four pm today, vehicular and pedestrian
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Speaker 1: traffic will be closed from West thirtieth Street to thirty
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Speaker 1: fifth Street, so on five blocks in New York City,
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Speaker 1: you can't It's not even about driving. All I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about was being able to drive down certain streets
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Speaker 1: and certain blocks being blocked off. You're not allowed to walk.
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Speaker 1: No one will be allowed inside the secure area unless
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Speaker 1: you have a ticket to the game, which is still
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Speaker 1: going to be crazy because there's going to be a
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Speaker 1: lot of crazy fans with tickets to the game, a
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Speaker 1: train ticket, are going to business inside the area, have
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Speaker 1: credentials or some other authorized reasons to be there. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna check all of this, to
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like between the blocks of thirtieth
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Speaker 1: and thirty fifth Street. I think they said, what between
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Speaker 1: six and eighth Avenue. Sixth Avenue is the avenue of
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Speaker 1: the like, there's so much there. There's so many restaurants
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Speaker 1: and bars and stuff like that in the area, so
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be very hard for them to patrol. But
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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how you know that that had
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Speaker 1: to be very hard for them to patrol. But I
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Speaker 1: mean the presidents in the town, so they of course
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Speaker 1: tried to do the best that they could. But I
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Speaker 1: just I would have hated that have been one of
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Speaker 1: those cops out there. They say, everyone entering the secure
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Speaker 1: area will be screened and you can only enter at
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Speaker 1: these access points. Oh wow, So they had everybody going
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Speaker 1: to one, two, three, four or five five different access
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Speaker 1: points last night, and those were those point access points
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Speaker 1: were the only way you were able to enter within
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Speaker 1: that area. So the reporting that it was gonna take
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Speaker 1: people three plus hours to get into the game if
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Speaker 1: you had a ticket, I see why now, because before
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Speaker 1: you even would have gotten to Madison Square Garden, you
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Speaker 1: had to do a whole security check on the street.
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Speaker 1: Imagine how many people had to line up at these
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Speaker 1: five points. Insane. So then when fans left, MSG after
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Speaker 1: the game, NYP says that they were able to access
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Speaker 1: public transit and penstation. If they were trying to lead
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Speaker 1: the area by foot or car, they had to walk
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Speaker 1: north or south between twenty nine and thirty sixth Street,
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Speaker 1: you will not be able to walk inst us. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: accident the game. Listen. I'm just glad I was out
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Speaker 1: of the madness. Okay, out of the madness. I barbecued
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Speaker 1: a bit, got to kind of chill out a little bit,
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Speaker 1: get ready for the next day. I don't know why
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Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks have felt like a world win,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm coming down on the other
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Speaker 1: side of the world wind where things are like I'm
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Speaker 1: like getting a grasp on life. Sometimes I feel like
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Speaker 1: I'm like going through things so much and I try
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Speaker 1: and like stop in a moment and literally claim, like
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Speaker 1: I'll say, I'm going to own the day. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to let the day own me, because a lot
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Speaker 1: of times it feels like there's a just moving so
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Speaker 1: fast and I'm trying to keep up with the day.
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Speaker 1: And when that happens, oftentimes I get through the day
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Speaker 1: and I literally either I can't remember certain things that
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Speaker 1: happened throughout the day, or I am I'm sitting back
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Speaker 1: and thinking of things that I did throughout the day
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Speaker 1: where I'm like, I could have did that a little
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Speaker 1: bit better, or ooh, I forgot to do this because
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Speaker 1: I was maneuvering so fast to do this other thing.
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Speaker 1: So I hate when that happens, and I hate that feeling.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like it is slowing down, like this week,
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Speaker 1: it's helping me to slow down and take control again.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for that. But yes, y'all, I mean
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Speaker 1: we kind of already there that behind the scenes of
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Speaker 1: the Grind was a little bit of the latest, so
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Speaker 1: we might as well get right on into it. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into the latest. Idris Elba talking about, you know,
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Speaker 1: people that come and shut cities down. Eri's Elbow, who
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Speaker 1: is well renowned actor, a DJ, but also I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's just been a sex symbol for a very long time.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's sitting down with British GQ and he's talking about
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Speaker 1: something that we don't often hear him talk about because
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Speaker 1: he's so many different characters, right, Like he's been on
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Speaker 1: the wire, he's been Nelson Mandela by the way, Nelson
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Speaker 1: Mandela XD. He just elbowed to play him himself. He
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Speaker 1: talked about that, Let's.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen, me playing Nelson Mandela. Come on, I
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Speaker 2: think like him. Was like, no, no, no, it's not like that.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Nelson Mandela wants you to play Nelson Mandela.
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Speaker 2: I was like what. At first, it was a lot
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Speaker 2: of pressure. I was like, nah, I can't. I mean, what,
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Speaker 2: how do you even approach something like that? And then
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Speaker 2: once I got to understand, I spoke to Justin Chadwick director,
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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this isn't a you know, like
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Speaker 2: for like wanting to look like him, wanted to body
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Speaker 2: his essence, and I said, okay, understand. And it was
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Speaker 2: based on the book Long Water Freedom, which is a
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Speaker 2: seven hundred page books, big story, and it was just
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Speaker 2: you know, going on that history journey to understand how
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Speaker 2: to play him, play various parts of his life. You know,
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Speaker 2: I moved to South Africa obviously before shooting. I wanted
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Speaker 2: to understand the culture, especially the Hossa culture and South
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Speaker 2: Africans generally and their understanding of Nelson Mandela's story. I
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Speaker 2: just wanted to absorb that because that was really important
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Speaker 2: to me that I didn't do like an impression of him.
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Speaker 2: Nelson Mandela is a most polarizing character. You know, for
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Speaker 2: some people he's an absolute hero and for others he's
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Speaker 2: less of You know, even if I'm doing an accent
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Speaker 2: or whatever, I understand the culture is the easiest way
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Speaker 2: for me to get into it, to absorb it. I
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Speaker 2: learned a lot about South Africa, about the history. I
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Speaker 2: got to hang with Winnie Mandela a lot, and she
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Speaker 2: was very helpful in helping construct me as as an actor.
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Speaker 2: For Nelson. She always said that, you know, you rem
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Speaker 2: fmind me of him when he was younger. You remind
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Speaker 2: me of him a lot. You know, you're very calm,
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Speaker 2: and you're very well spoken in your forthright and you
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Speaker 2: seem like you've got conviction. He's just said that a lot.
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Speaker 2: Said he was very handsome. You're very handsome.
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Speaker 1: He's done so many different, big, powerful, insanely powerful roles.
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Speaker 1: We played that to make that point, Like all these
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Speaker 1: different roles, he's been able to play and be these
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Speaker 1: people that have stopped the world and that people will remember.
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Speaker 1: But a few weeks ago he was knighted over in
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Speaker 1: the UK and the knighthood is it's like you hear
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Speaker 1: in us you know how people are given like a
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Speaker 1: day in the city or a key to the city,
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Speaker 1: like you're honored by high level of political officials for
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Speaker 1: the work that you've done in the community or impact.
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Speaker 1: So he was knighted for his work that he does
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Speaker 1: with children in the community over there. A lot of
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Speaker 1: it is about, you know, he tackling knife crimes, which
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Speaker 1: is a big thing. Gun violence is really big here
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Speaker 1: in the US, but knife crime is really big over
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Speaker 1: in the UK. Remember I went to London and I
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Speaker 1: was younger, and I was in high school and at
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Speaker 1: that time, I was experiencing like a lot of my
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Speaker 1: friends were passing away from gun violence. And I remember
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Speaker 1: going over there on a speaking tour for about two
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Speaker 1: weeks and I thought that it was so crazy that
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Speaker 1: guns weren't their biggest issue, that it was knives. I
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Speaker 1: I alwaysber will remember that. But he's tackling NiFe crime
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Speaker 1: in different communities over there, and you know, with this
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Speaker 1: new community enterprise that he's running, he's talking a lot
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Speaker 1: about just getting comfortable with his role of his actual self,
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Speaker 1: so stepping outside of the characters and leaning into who
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Speaker 1: he is as a dad, as a partner, as a person,
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Speaker 1: as a community activist and what that looks like and
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Speaker 1: how that plays into his roles. Because one of the
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Speaker 1: things that you identify right off the bat and reading
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Speaker 1: this GQ article or listening to parts of it, not
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Speaker 1: all of it is written. Some of it is in video,
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Speaker 1: but not all of it that is written is in video.
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Speaker 1: So that's why you'll hear Idris and some of this
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Speaker 1: podcast episode, but then some of it I will be
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Speaker 1: reading whatever's on and video. But what you identify instantly
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Speaker 1: is the fact that, like well most actors, they have
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Speaker 1: like a through line, so it's like you know them
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Speaker 1: for certain types of roles. With Idris, he's done everything
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Speaker 1: from super serious to super dramatic to gangster to you know,
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Speaker 1: like on the not comedian, it's shy but like lighter,
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Speaker 1: lighthearted side of things. Like, He's kind of all over
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Speaker 1: the place when it comes to the roles that he's
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Speaker 1: adapted in his career. But one of the roles that
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Speaker 1: I feel like will never escape him, no matter how
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Speaker 1: much he denies it, and he hasn't even played the
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Speaker 1: role yet is James Bond. People cannot wait for Idris
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Speaker 1: Elba to play James Bond. But he's here again. All
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Speaker 1: these years later. This conversation started in like twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, so about six to seven years later, still
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Speaker 1: denying it. Wait, I'm sorry, seven years later, that's like
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Speaker 1: fifteen years later. Yes, that's like fifteen years later. While
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Speaker 1: my math is off. You could tell what role I
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Speaker 1: didn't play well, the mathematician. So the article opens literally
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Speaker 1: right off the bat with them talking about the James
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Speaker 1: Bond rumors and the writer in GQ her name is
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Speaker 1: Hayley Campbell. She says, it's been fifteen years and we
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Speaker 1: are still talking about the James Bond rumors. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this man has played so many roles, and then she
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Speaker 1: lists some of them and she says, but Idris Elba
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Speaker 1: and that James Bond combo is one that still just
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Speaker 1: will not go away. Now, she details Idris Elba's response
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Speaker 1: when she brings up the role of James Bond. So
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Speaker 1: she says that she brings it up and Idris Elba
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Speaker 1: playfully rolls his eyes and slides down in the seat
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Speaker 1: until all she can see is this do rag? I
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Speaker 1: mean because at this point it's like how many times
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Speaker 1: does he have to tell us it's not going to happen?
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. We just won't go. But what
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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting here is that not only did
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Speaker 1: he say it wasn't going to happen, but he says
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Speaker 1: that he doesn't think the world is even ready for
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Speaker 1: a black man to play James Bond. So when asked
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Speaker 1: about playing James Bond, he responds, it was never legit.
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Speaker 1: It was always just a rumor. It started. At the
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Speaker 1: Italian premiere of Quantum of Solace, held a day after
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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight US presidential election, Daniel Craig
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Speaker 1: said that Barack Obama's victory suggested that we had reached
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Speaker 1: the time for a black Bond. Elba says fans simply
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Speaker 1: took it and ran with it. He says, I've always
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Speaker 1: felt that it's not a realistic thing. He believes he
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Speaker 1: believes that James Bond was written how he was written
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Speaker 1: for a reason, But I was But he says he
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Speaker 1: was complimented by the thought that people you know would
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Speaker 1: think that he could play James Bond. He says he
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Speaker 1: also thinks realistically, in realistic terms, some markets just don't
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Speaker 1: go for that. Talking about having a black James Bond.
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Speaker 1: Bond is big all over the world and audiences won't
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Speaker 1: all go for a black male, an African male playing vine.
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Speaker 1: That's not what they like in their culture period. He
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Speaker 1: also believes that changing Bond isn't really necessary. Bond is
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Speaker 1: so unrealistic, says Idris Elbow, So a hint of a
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Speaker 1: reality is good, but let's not try to make it woke.
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Speaker 1: Adris continues, I think you've got to be pure to
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Speaker 1: what it is. He continues, it's escapism. Don't try and
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Speaker 1: answer the world's taste. Just be ning. Now. On one hand,
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Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying, Like I wouldn't want to
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Speaker 1: see a woke James Bond, So like, even if he
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Speaker 1: did do the role, I'm kind of glad that it
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Speaker 1: didn't happen around that Black Square time where although white
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Speaker 1: people was like kneeling in the capitol, you know what
15:40
Speaker 1: I mean, because white people were just being crazy around
15:42
Speaker 1: that time, and everything was so black, and like it
15:45
Speaker 1: was like every movie, every TV show, every company was
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Speaker 1: giving you a rolodex on everything black and everything slavery
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Speaker 1: and everything that they should be apologizing for. So it
15:56
Speaker 1: was like just it was overly like it was like
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Speaker 1: the world outside of black people were trying to overcompensate
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Speaker 1: for what black people have already known experience and been
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Speaker 1: going through for over four hundred years. It was just
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Speaker 1: too much, and it made a lot of things to me,
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Speaker 1: like very like like why, like I remember crazy comparison,
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Speaker 1: but this is how my mind works. I remember when
16:19
Speaker 1: they put Ebney K. Williams on Real Housewives of New York. Now,
16:24
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I loved the Real Housewives franchise.
16:27
Speaker 1: Atlanta is my favorite, Potomac Is right after that, Beverly
16:31
Speaker 1: Hills after that, and I haven't gotten into any of
16:33
Speaker 1: the other other girls, right, But with New York I
16:37
Speaker 1: watched Real Housewives of New York a bit, but I
16:40
Speaker 1: remember tuning in specifically for Ebney K. Williams season because
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Speaker 1: it was like such a big deal for her as
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Speaker 1: a black woman to be on that show, especially during
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Speaker 1: that time, because again, it was that time where the
16:50
Speaker 1: world was looking to be educated and looking too on
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Speaker 1: black things and it was our responsibility to do so,
16:56
Speaker 1: which I hate. And they were just looking to write
16:59
Speaker 1: a lot of the songs that they had done over
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Speaker 1: all of these decades and hundreds of years, right, So
17:04
Speaker 1: they brought her on the show, and I felt like
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Speaker 1: I understood the point of what they were trying to do,
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Speaker 1: and I think that Ebanie K. Williams is a very brilliant, educated,
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Speaker 1: you know, can hold her own black woman. But I
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Speaker 1: just was like it was just too much, like it
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Speaker 1: was overly like I'm gonna teach you guys, or I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna show you guys the black experience, instead of her
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Speaker 1: just being on the show and being a black woman
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Speaker 1: who lives this luxurious life like it was forced, in
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Speaker 1: my opinion, and I don't think that had anything to
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Speaker 1: do with her. I think that that was a lot
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Speaker 1: of our production in the network and what they were
17:36
Speaker 1: desperately trying to achieve because they saw how white a
17:39
Speaker 1: lot of their casts were outside of Atlanta. And I
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Speaker 1: think if you would have took a movie like James
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Speaker 1: Bond at that time and tried to do that, it
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Speaker 1: would have ruined the franchise and it would have been
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Speaker 1: a It just would have looked crazy on ages. But
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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't think if he
17:52
Speaker 1: had read a script that wasn't as genius as Bond
17:54
Speaker 1: had already been Black Men or not, it wouldn't have happened.
17:57
Speaker 1: He would have said, no, to it, and I'm glad
18:00
Speaker 1: that he would have because imagine a racially woke and
18:05
Speaker 1: cheesy James Bond, like, I'm all here for race, I'm
18:08
Speaker 1: all here for reparations, I'm all here for black black, black,
18:11
Speaker 1: ay black, y'all. But I do think that, like I
18:14
Speaker 1: hate watching things where you can tell that they were
18:18
Speaker 1: just trying to like check the black box or check
18:21
Speaker 1: the racial box, or check the inclusion box. Like hate
18:24
Speaker 1: that to my core, especially when it's things that have
18:27
Speaker 1: like scripts that have death and energy that requires so
18:31
Speaker 1: much more than that. But if you want to bring
18:33
Speaker 1: those things in, there are ways that you can do it.
18:36
Speaker 1: I mean, number one, you bring black people into the
18:38
Speaker 1: writer's rooms, into the director's seats, into the producer rooms,
18:43
Speaker 1: and things don't have to be subtle. I think a
18:46
Speaker 1: black James Bond existing period, like you don't got to
18:50
Speaker 1: take them, you know, to Harlem, you don't gotta And
18:53
Speaker 1: it's no shade to American gangs and all the movies
18:56
Speaker 1: that did things like that, But it doesn't have to
18:59
Speaker 1: be this like complete three sixty U turn of a
19:03
Speaker 1: storyline like James Bond can still be James Bond. But
19:06
Speaker 1: I think just seeing a black man exist in that
19:08
Speaker 1: role and be powerful, which I think could have easily
19:11
Speaker 1: been done. It would have been beautifully done if done
19:13
Speaker 1: the right way. I agree that you don't want to
19:17
Speaker 1: make it too woke, so let's get that out of the way.
19:19
Speaker 1: I do agree with each you's elpow on that. What
19:21
Speaker 1: I don't agree with is oh and second thing I
19:24
Speaker 1: agree with is that the world is not ready for it.
19:27
Speaker 1: Let me get his direct quote. He says, but I
19:29
Speaker 1: was complimented by it, talking about the thought that people
19:32
Speaker 1: the fact that people would even think that it would
19:33
Speaker 1: be a good James Bond. I think in realistic terms,
19:37
Speaker 1: some markets just don't go for that. Bond is big
19:39
Speaker 1: all over the world, and audiences won't all go for
19:42
Speaker 1: a black male and African male playing Bond. That's just
19:44
Speaker 1: not what they like in their culture period. Listen. I
19:47
Speaker 1: don't disagree with that either, but I do disagree with
19:51
Speaker 1: the fact of like that. Like for me, that wouldn't
19:53
Speaker 1: be a reason of why it shouldn't be done, because
19:56
Speaker 1: I don't think that the world is any is ready
19:58
Speaker 1: for anything black lead to be flipped on his face
20:02
Speaker 1: like that whatsoever? Like they got mad about the Little
20:04
Speaker 1: Mermaid about Hailey Bailey playing the Little Mermaid. The Little
20:09
Speaker 1: Mermaid is an animated character at its core, but because
20:12
Speaker 1: she was a black woman, people were upset. So that's
20:15
Speaker 1: always going to be a thing. I don't think the
20:16
Speaker 1: world will ever be ready for anything that goes black
20:19
Speaker 1: after being historically white or ambiguous for however amount of time. Right,
20:23
Speaker 1: But I don't think I don't agree with that's why
20:25
Speaker 1: you don't do it. I just think when you do it,
20:27
Speaker 1: there is a level of I mean, it's just an
20:30
Speaker 1: extra level of care that would need to be taken
20:32
Speaker 1: because you understand the conversation. You understand the difference of
20:37
Speaker 1: you know, how a black Bond would see the world
20:39
Speaker 1: versus how a white one would. You understand how the
20:43
Speaker 1: world would see a black Bond James Bond versus how
20:46
Speaker 1: we see the white one in the movie. So far,
20:50
Speaker 1: like we get all of that and those nuances I
20:51
Speaker 1: think could make for a great story. But I also
20:54
Speaker 1: think if not done the right way, they could make
20:55
Speaker 1: for a really not good if you were experienced as
20:59
Speaker 1: well too. But I just don't think that that's why
21:01
Speaker 1: you don't do it, though, Like that's that's my only
21:02
Speaker 1: push back here with him and I get and I understand.
21:05
Speaker 1: I've seen him, you know, say comments over the years
21:08
Speaker 1: that people ask people have brought this up, that it
21:11
Speaker 1: wasn't happening and that he doesn't want to be known
21:13
Speaker 1: as the black James Bond. But and I completely understand
21:18
Speaker 1: that as well. I think that there's always this thing
21:20
Speaker 1: of like not wanting to be typecast and like suck
21:22
Speaker 1: in a box, especially for an actor like Iris Ebb
21:24
Speaker 1: but who's been able to do so much and so
21:27
Speaker 1: many wide ranging characters. But I wouldn't be mad at
21:30
Speaker 1: seeing it at all. I do think it takes a
21:32
Speaker 1: certain person. I think in Eatres is one of the
21:34
Speaker 1: people that I would think of that could do it,
21:37
Speaker 1: only because I think he has this there's like a
21:41
Speaker 1: coolness to him, but there's also like a there's an
21:46
Speaker 1: elevated like, uh, it's like a charm, but there's also
21:51
Speaker 1: it's like a smart I don't know how you approach it.
21:55
Speaker 1: Like when I think of James Bond, I think of
21:56
Speaker 1: someone who's like untouchable. He's very smart, he's very witty,
22:00
Speaker 1: he moves, he sticks and goes. You know, he's a leader.
22:04
Speaker 1: He's just the guy. And I think that there are
22:06
Speaker 1: a lot of black male leads right now who could
22:08
Speaker 1: do it, you know who I also think could be
22:10
Speaker 1: good at it outside of Idris Elba, but people don't
22:12
Speaker 1: talk about him or not a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm
22:14
Speaker 1: doing my ma teen. I think that he is a
22:16
Speaker 1: person that could do it as well too. I think
22:19
Speaker 1: you would need someone who is who's acted on a
22:23
Speaker 1: high level enough, like who's done enough high level films
22:28
Speaker 1: and films that have required them to like really deeply
22:30
Speaker 1: study the character, the history of the character, the movements,
22:34
Speaker 1: the notions, the like so many deep things that I
22:38
Speaker 1: think an actor who's high level and really good, like
22:42
Speaker 1: you know, Michael b. Jordan is really really good, Dempson
22:45
Speaker 1: a dress is really really good. Like they're all great.
22:48
Speaker 1: But I think you need like an Idris or a
22:50
Speaker 1: Yah Yah Matin who to me, they would like they
22:54
Speaker 1: would just bury themselves in the preparation for the character
22:59
Speaker 1: enough we're like we would literally really believe that they
23:02
Speaker 1: walk and breath. James Bond, I don't know if I like,
23:05
Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael be Jordan could could convince
23:08
Speaker 1: me in a in a James Bond role as good
23:10
Speaker 1: as he is. I don't think that demseon interest is
23:12
Speaker 1: there yet either as good as he is, I don't think.
23:15
Speaker 1: I think there's a It's just like a there's a
23:18
Speaker 1: certain level of like maturity that is needed there. And
23:22
Speaker 1: I think I saw that when I watch yah Ya
23:24
Speaker 1: abdul Matin and Man on Fire. I saw that there
23:28
Speaker 1: Aris Elbow. I've seen it over and over again in
23:30
Speaker 1: several of his roles where I'm like, Okay, he has
23:32
Speaker 1: that meticulous like art like study studying of the craft,
23:38
Speaker 1: but also like you just I don't know, you just
23:40
Speaker 1: believe him differently. Yeah. So look, I say all this
23:45
Speaker 1: to say, who am I, But I'll be here for y'all.
23:48
Speaker 1: Let me know what y'all think now real quick, as
23:52
Speaker 1: we close the latest this episode, I wanted to do
23:56
Speaker 1: a quick update shifting gears a bit. I mean, we
23:58
Speaker 1: still talking crime and crime solving and all the things,
24:02
Speaker 1: right the gangsters, but we're going into real life here
24:05
Speaker 1: some gangsters that shouldn't have been trying to be gangst
24:08
Speaker 1: allegedly because you guys remember the case that we covered
24:12
Speaker 1: where rap artists Gucci Man, rap artists and label owner
24:15
Speaker 1: Gucci Man was reportedly abducted in robbed at gunpoint in
24:22
Speaker 1: a music studio. Now they arrested his artists Pushchisy for that,
24:28
Speaker 1: along with another music artist named Big thirty out of
24:30
Speaker 1: Memphis and Pushchaisy's dad. The artist Big thirty has been
24:35
Speaker 1: let go, not let go, but he's been released on
24:38
Speaker 1: a bond until trial. Push Iisty and his father, however,
24:41
Speaker 1: are still being held. I know there were some conversations
24:44
Speaker 1: happening in court through documents, not in court, but through
24:47
Speaker 1: documents about Pushisky's dad trying to be released until it
24:50
Speaker 1: was time for trial. Well, we now have a potential
24:54
Speaker 1: trial date set, so there were some documents filed today
24:57
Speaker 1: that just kind of outlined the schedule of what's about
25:00
Speaker 1: to happen. So the new trial date that we were
25:02
Speaker 1: looking at is in February of twenty twenty seven, so
25:06
Speaker 1: that's about seven and eight months from now, and that
25:10
Speaker 1: will give both the prosecution and defense time to prep
25:13
Speaker 1: their arguments, go through witnesses, submit, witnesses, go through discovery
25:18
Speaker 1: from both sides. So evidence that is, you know, being
25:22
Speaker 1: going to be used in court to gather but also
25:25
Speaker 1: to give it to the other side so that they
25:26
Speaker 1: can prepare their arguments against it and vice versa. But
25:30
Speaker 1: this is going to be really interesting. That this trial
25:32
Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting because there's a lot
25:33
Speaker 1: of unanswered questions. Number One, evidence inside of the studio
25:38
Speaker 1: is still a big question. You had Pusheisty's side, who
25:41
Speaker 1: is a defense that is saying, yeah, you guys can
25:44
Speaker 1: place them at the studio. You know, he was on
25:46
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor which was tracking his location. There are photos,
25:50
Speaker 1: but there's nothing from inside the studio that proves that
25:53
Speaker 1: an actual robbery or an abduction took place. Now there's
25:59
Speaker 1: supposed to be some cell phone footage of Gucci Minh
26:02
Speaker 1: being forced to sign this contract, but that video footage
26:05
Speaker 1: and the actual contract itself up until this point that
26:08
Speaker 1: we know and we may find out differently as evidence
26:11
Speaker 1: comes out, as are following these documents getting ready for trial,
26:14
Speaker 1: but that we know of right now, none of that
26:16
Speaker 1: was found. So for the prosecutors, their biggest thing is
26:20
Speaker 1: going to be able is being able to prove that
26:22
Speaker 1: Puschisty like what happened inside that music studio, especially because
26:27
Speaker 1: from all of their reports outside of a police report
26:29
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they don't have cooperation from any of
26:32
Speaker 1: the victims, including Gucci Minh. At this point, in time,
26:35
Speaker 1: So proving that is going to be tough. Now, it's
26:37
Speaker 1: also going to be tough for Gucci man if he's
26:39
Speaker 1: subpoena to testify, and just to see how he navigates that,
26:42
Speaker 1: because I know that that's something that he doesn't want
26:45
Speaker 1: to do that he you know, we all know he
26:47
Speaker 1: has talked about being completely against But I'm interested to
26:50
Speaker 1: see how that goes. And yeah, I mean Pushisty's team
26:55
Speaker 1: has to. It's like, Okay, we know that he was there.
26:58
Speaker 1: They got to make it make sense as why he
27:00
Speaker 1: was there. And they can claim, you know, small things
27:02
Speaker 1: like he's an artist, it's a studio, that's why he
27:05
Speaker 1: was there. Makes sense, But it's like to be there
27:07
Speaker 1: that day that time, to have called and you know,
27:11
Speaker 1: bust people in like all of the things. He would
27:13
Speaker 1: have to proved that these are things that he does
27:15
Speaker 1: on a day to day, weekly week basis. Being in
27:17
Speaker 1: the studio is gonna be a little bit easier to
27:19
Speaker 1: prove again because he is a music artist. But the
27:21
Speaker 1: people that were there that were reportedly seeing with you know,
27:25
Speaker 1: jewelry that was allegedly taken from the victims later on
27:29
Speaker 1: social media, Like there's small things like that that he's
27:32
Speaker 1: going to need to explain. But if there's no evidence
27:35
Speaker 1: of what actually happened inside of the studio outside of
27:38
Speaker 1: victim testimony, and you don't have victims testifying, I am
27:42
Speaker 1: very curious to see how the prosecution goes about this one,
27:45
Speaker 1: because if they can't stick that at most pusheci walks
27:49
Speaker 1: away being slapped on a wrist because he violated his
27:53
Speaker 1: probation because he was on home confinement and you know,
27:56
Speaker 1: everything would have had to have been approved him being
27:58
Speaker 1: out of the house. You know, the fact that he
27:59
Speaker 1: was round guns, you know all of that, and that
28:01
Speaker 1: may sit them down again. It may or may not,
28:04
Speaker 1: but that is like the least of his worries right now.
28:06
Speaker 1: So we'll keep you guys updated as that develops. I'm
28:10
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