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Beloved Store Clerk Puts Children Through College, Beat to Death by Shoplifter, on the Run · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's a dad that never missed a day's work.
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  Speaker 2: He reminds me so much of my father, who never
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  Speaker 2: missed a day of work at the railroad. Even sometimes
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  Speaker 2: he would go when he was having chest pains. He
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  Speaker 2: was a heart patient. Mister Twalde worked seven days a
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  Speaker 2: week helping his children advance. He never missed going to
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  Speaker 2: work because he wanted to help them move forward with
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  Speaker 2: school and have a better life seven days a week.
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  Speaker 2: This after he has heart surgery. They beg him to
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  Speaker 2: stay home, but no, he did not want to miss
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  Speaker 2: work and he didn't. So why is it that this
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  Speaker 2: man working at the store, the Mini mark, the grocery
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  Speaker 2: right around the corner, minding his own business, is beaten
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  Speaker 2: so badly in the head trying to stop a shoplifter
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  Speaker 2: that he is beaten into a brain coma, and then
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  Speaker 2: mister Taldy dies. Why the killer the shoplifter is on
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  Speaker 2: the loose. He's on the run and I want him
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  Speaker 2: behind bars. When will it stop? You know, we see
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  Speaker 2: those pictures on our iPads and our iPhones or on
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  Speaker 2: TV of people a group of guys and hoodies. You
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  Speaker 2: can't make out their face they run into some high
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  Speaker 2: end store like Nordstrums or Sacks, and they're such idiots.
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  Speaker 2: They're actually pulling the items that are chained to the tables,
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  Speaker 2: the display tables. The tables are being pulled along with them.
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  Speaker 2: They take thousands and thousands of dollars of fancy pocketbooks
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  Speaker 2: and clothing, designer clothing, whatever they can get their hands on.
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  Speaker 2: But now this father is dead. It's not just grabbing
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  Speaker 2: some overpriced pocketbook that some rich socialite or Kim Kardashian
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to buy. They have actually killed someone that
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  Speaker 2: tried to stop them from stealing beer. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how long this is going to be allowed. We read
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  Speaker 2: about it every week. An employee at home depot, an
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  Speaker 2: employee here, an employee there. I've tacked and killed by
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  Speaker 2: a shoplifter. I means he grace. This is crime stories.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here at Foxination in
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  Speaker 2: serious XEM one eleven. You may think in your mind, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know John Twalde, I don't know his children.
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  Speaker 2: What is that to me? That happened? For are far away,
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  Speaker 2: of course in San Francisco again, But next time it
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  Speaker 2: may be your grandfather, your uncle, your father. This is
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  Speaker 2: happening all over the country. Why why is it being allowed?
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  Speaker 2: If we don't do something about it, If we don't
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  Speaker 2: speak out, who will speak out when it happens to us?
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  Speaker 2: Listen to our forends. At kpi X at.
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  Speaker 3: The Richmond Market, cards and flowers have been left for him.
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  Speaker 3: Residents in the area know him as John. A note
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  Speaker 3: outside the store reads, praying for your full recovery and justice, John,
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  Speaker 3: we love you and Nancy. Nancy is known as John's cat.
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  Speaker 3: She hangs out inside the store. Customers know both of them.
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  Speaker 2: We live a.
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  Speaker 4: Block away right, so to be able to come up here,
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  Speaker 4: play with a super fw cat, get an ice cream cone,
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  Speaker 4: and talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: He was always very friendly. When I heard that, it
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  Speaker 2: immediately reminded me of when I had left the District
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  Speaker 2: Attorney's office after ten years prosecuting in Inner City Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: and took a job on a lark in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: I need nobody at all to go co anchor with
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Cochrane, god rest of Soul, and I made two friends.
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  Speaker 2: Their names were Candy and Lollipop. They were two cats
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  Speaker 2: that lived down the street in a candy store. The
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  Speaker 2: first people that I met in the first Creatures I
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  Speaker 2: met in New York, and this man, the deceased, the victim,
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  Speaker 2: Johannes to Walde, took care of Nancy and they became
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  Speaker 2: basically a legend in their neighborhood. Listened to k TVU.
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  Speaker 5: The attack happened at this corner market on Balboa and
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  Speaker 5: forty first Avenue. The family tells me they want the
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  Speaker 5: suspect caught before he harmed someone else.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to wait down a week, but I
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  Speaker 2: want justice. The family of Johanns.
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  Speaker 5: To Welde isn't shocked that he's in a coma at
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  Speaker 5: Suckerberg San Francisco General Hospital. They say he suffered a
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  Speaker 5: brain injury while trying to stop a theft suspect who
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  Speaker 5: attacked him while he was working at a neighborhood market.
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  Speaker 2: He had been working at this market for years and
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  Speaker 2: years again, seven days a week. You hear the daughter crying,
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  Speaker 2: I just want my dad to wake up. I just
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  Speaker 2: want my dad to wake up. I remember thinking that
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  Speaker 2: same thing before my dad passed away. I just want
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  Speaker 2: him to wake up. He did not wake up. Listen
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  Speaker 2: to Josn Moran.
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  Speaker 3: Miran Tualde says her father, Johannes, was working at the
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  Speaker 3: Richmond Market when a man tried to steal water. She
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  Speaker 3: says he let him go, but then he tried stealing
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  Speaker 3: beer too. That's when and Johannes tried stopping him. San
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  Speaker 3: Francisco police say they arrived at around nine thirty pm
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  Speaker 3: and located a sixty year old male victim lying on
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  Speaker 3: the ground unconscious.
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  Speaker 2: Heard something going on.
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  Speaker 6: She came called a woe who was there holding his
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  Speaker 6: hand old time until he got to the.
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  Speaker 2: Hospital and more from kri.
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  Speaker 7: N Towalde, who friends called John, was beaten by a
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  Speaker 7: suspect during a robbery.
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  Speaker 8: Thief came in and stole something from the store.
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  Speaker 9: John let him go, but the thief came back ten
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  Speaker 9: fifteen minutes later.
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  Speaker 2: John decided that enough was.
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  Speaker 7: Enough Toaldi grabbed a baseball bat to defend himself while
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  Speaker 7: attempting to stop a second theft. San Francisco police say
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  Speaker 7: the suspect assaulted Towalde, knocked him to the ground, took
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  Speaker 7: the bat away, and hit him with it, leaving him unconscious.
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  Speaker 2: Wow the way they say that, that's certainly the airbrushed version.
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  Speaker 2: He assaulted him. He beat the sixty year old store manager,
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  Speaker 2: the clerk in the head with a baseball bat. He
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  Speaker 2: went into a coma and now he's dead. With me
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  Speaker 2: an all star panel to make sense of what we
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  Speaker 2: know right now. But first I want to go to
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  Speaker 2: a special guest joining us doctor Othan Menna, forensic pathologist,
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  Speaker 2: medical examiner in southern California. This is your neck of
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  Speaker 2: the wood, doctor Manna, Doctor Mena, I'm just a JD.
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  Speaker 2: You're the MD. Why would he go into a coma
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  Speaker 2: as they have said it a brain coma, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a coma and die? How does that happen?
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  Speaker 10: Well, there are several possibilities. First, he may have been
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  Speaker 10: injured when falling to the ground and then is subsequently
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  Speaker 10: struck in the head and that can be another source
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  Speaker 10: of injury. So basically, when one examines these folks from
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  Speaker 10: outside in, there could be skull fractures, They could be
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  Speaker 10: bleeding around the brain. There are different layers where that
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  Speaker 10: can happen. Or they can be direct trauma to the brain,
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  Speaker 10: such as a bruising or contusion, or more severely, injury
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  Speaker 10: to the neurons or the cells that within the brain.
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  Speaker 2: What is bleeding to the brain, well, that.
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  Speaker 10: Can be a direct result from a skull fracture, meaning
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  Speaker 10: that a vessel can tear when as a result of
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  Speaker 10: the bone fracturing. But what can also happen is even
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  Speaker 10: without a fracture, a small veins around the brain can
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  Speaker 10: tear just from falling and striking one's head or from
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  Speaker 10: being hit in the head, and those little veins can
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  Speaker 10: produce bleeding that can then push on it, push on
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  Speaker 10: the brain, and that can lead then to a mass
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  Speaker 10: forming a he with tooma, and that can cause herniation
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  Speaker 10: of the brain. So the brain was essentially because it's
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  Speaker 10: a limited space within the school, it can be pushed
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  Speaker 10: towards another area and that can then cause other complications such.
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  Speaker 8: As reduced blood flow, reduced.
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  Speaker 10: Oxygen, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, it's happening all over our country, our great country. Shoplifters,
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  Speaker 2: when confronted turn on the employee and kill them. Take
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  Speaker 2: listen to our cut fifteen our friends at WVLT. This
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  Speaker 2: happened at the Rural King. Listen.
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  Speaker 11: Unfortunately, we have a sad situation here today at Rural
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  Speaker 11: King here in the Halls community.
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  Speaker 12: A situation that left the store employee dead. Police say
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  Speaker 12: a shoplifter tried stealing ammunition when he was confronted by
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  Speaker 12: a store employee. The shoplifter ran outside to the back
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  Speaker 12: of the store, where authorities say he's got and killed
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  Speaker 12: the employee before running off. Police say the suspect is
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  Speaker 12: still on the loose and is being called armed and dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: And at the Right Aid Take a listener cut Fortea
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  Speaker 2: from KABC.
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  Speaker 13: An accused killer now charged in the Right Aid shooting
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  Speaker 13: in Glacelle Park. Twenty year old Anthony Limas faces one
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  Speaker 13: count each of murder and second degree robbery. Prosecutors say
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  Speaker 13: he shot and killed Right Aid employee Miguel Penelosa earlier
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  Speaker 13: this month. Police say Limas and another man were trying
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  Speaker 13: to steal beer and Penuelosa confronted him, and.
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  Speaker 2: When the employee confronted them, he was murdered right then
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  Speaker 2: and there.
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  Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: To Karen start joining us renowned psychologists out of New
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  Speaker 2: York TV radio Trauma X for You can find her
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  Speaker 2: at karen'starting dot com. That's Karen with a C in
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  Speaker 2: case you're looking for her. Karen, the dichotomy always makes
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  Speaker 2: me stop, and it takes a lot to make me stop.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen so many crimes and just try to figure
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  Speaker 2: it out. But I know now I can't figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: The dichotomy of it being a normal day. I remember
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  Speaker 2: when I walked out of that statistics exam at Mercer University.
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  Speaker 2: Inside the building it was dark. I came out and
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  Speaker 2: the sun was shining, and I thought, Wow, what a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day. And I started walking to my job at
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  Speaker 2: the library. And the next thing I know, my life changed.
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  Speaker 2: My fiance had been murdered. And hear these people. They
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  Speaker 2: leave their family in the morning, bye, honey, kiss, The
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  Speaker 2: children give them a huge at dinner, and their gun
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  Speaker 2: down at wark. And this guy, a sixty year old
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  Speaker 2: guy came back to work after heart surgery, trying to
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  Speaker 2: get his children through college, through education, is beaten dead
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  Speaker 2: by somebody trying to steal two beers. The dichotomy of
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  Speaker 2: how quickly it all happens. His family must be just
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  Speaker 2: writhing in pain.
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  Speaker 14: With no way nancy to be able to predict, no
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  Speaker 14: way to be able to cope.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like a long illness.
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  Speaker 14: And then the person at the end is dying, which
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  Speaker 14: is bad enough, but here it is where they say
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  Speaker 14: goodbye and they have no idea they will never see
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  Speaker 14: the person again, which is exactly what happened to you.
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  Speaker 14: It's just so shocking, and you never It's the reason
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  Speaker 14: that every moment when you're with people is so precious,
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  Speaker 14: because life can be taken away. But I want to
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  Speaker 14: say that things seem to me to have gotten much
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  Speaker 14: more violent. I mean, here's the story with this very
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  Speaker 14: good Samara.
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  Speaker 2: This good guy.
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  Speaker 14: He sees in taking something and does nothing, and he
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  Speaker 14: knows the guy is stealing, and he lets him.
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  Speaker 4: Go, and then this guy.
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  Speaker 14: Comes back again and does it again.
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  Speaker 15: It's just outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: And this guy is on the loose, he hasn't been caught.
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  Speaker 2: And this family just hanging in the wind in pain.
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  Speaker 2: Is happening all over our country. When are we going
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  Speaker 2: to demand justice? Up Here you go, here's a home
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  Speaker 2: depot employee now dead. And of all places pleasant to
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  Speaker 2: take a list nour cut sixteen KTVU.
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  Speaker 16: Family, co workers and pleasant and Beliefs are in shock
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  Speaker 16: after home depot worker Blake Mose was shot and killed
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  Speaker 16: while trying to stop a theft.
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  Speaker 17: Unfortunately, Blake's life was cut short by this senseless act
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  Speaker 17: of violence that started with a theft and turned into
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  Speaker 17: a robbery and ended in his murder.
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  Speaker 16: At about two fifteen Tuesday afternoon, Mose tried to stop
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  Speaker 16: this woman, Venetia Naps, after police say she stole an
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  Speaker 16: electrical item and ran to the loading dock area in
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  Speaker 16: the back of the store.
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  Speaker 17: The female suspect pulled out a handgun and fired a
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  Speaker 17: shot at Pleet.
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  Speaker 16: Mose died at a hospital. He was twenty six years old.
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  Speaker 2: Just like that. Bam, it's over. Here's a home depot
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  Speaker 2: worker eighty two. You know when you go into a
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  Speaker 2: Walmart and I think home depot too. They have greeters,
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  Speaker 2: usually senior citizens. Somebody kills an eighty two year old senior.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen hour cut eighteen our friends at ABC.
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  Speaker 9: An eighty two year old home Depot employee who was
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  Speaker 9: assaulted back in October and Hillsborough has now died from
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  Speaker 9: his injuries. Police say the employee was trying to stop
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  Speaker 9: the man who was stealing from the store. You can
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  Speaker 9: see the worker approaches the man, who then pushes him
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  Speaker 9: down and continues walking away. The medical examiner ruling the
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  Speaker 9: man's death a homicide tonight. Hillsboro police are still searching
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  Speaker 9: for that man, who, as you see right here, had
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  Speaker 9: three boxes in that shopping cart with pressure washing equipment
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  Speaker 9: made by Rayobi. The man took off in a white
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  Speaker 9: four door Hondai Sonata.
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  Speaker 2: I've got this whole stack of cases where employees doing
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  Speaker 2: their job, minding their own business, families at home are
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  Speaker 2: murdered at work by shoplifters, and what we just let
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  Speaker 2: it keep happening and happening and happening. Andy Kahn, when
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  Speaker 2: is this going to stop?
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  Speaker 12: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Andy is joining me, director of Victim Services and Advocacy
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stoppers out of Houston. Andy. I think I've told
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  Speaker 2: you in the past my first case that I ever
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  Speaker 2: prosecuted was his shoplifting where the guy actually didn't take
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  Speaker 2: anything out of the store. But don't worry, I got
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  Speaker 2: a conviction at tempted shotlifting. And I always thought, wow,
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  Speaker 2: my first case is going to be, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: bank robbery or a murderer or rico. It was a shotlifting,
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  Speaker 2: and that's taking on a whole new dimension because of victims,
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  Speaker 2: decent victims like mister Taldy. I'm just when is it
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  Speaker 2: going to stop? In San Francisco. It's as if the
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  Speaker 2: criminals are running the city.
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  Speaker 11: I can tell you, Nancy, as a board member of
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  Speaker 11: parents and murdered children and surviving family members of homicide,
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  Speaker 11: that grief is intensified when justice is lacking, and sadly,
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  Speaker 11: right now, justice is lacking for John and his family.
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  Speaker 11: I wish like you've been saying this was an anomaly,
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  Speaker 11: this was a rare occasion, but the domino effect of
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  Speaker 11: property crime and how we continue you to label those
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  Speaker 11: who commit property crimes as quote nonviolent crimes are wrecking
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  Speaker 11: havoc in the community. You have some sections in the
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  Speaker 11: United States of America that are now calling nonviolent offenders
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  Speaker 11: and I can't make this up. They're now called justice
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  Speaker 11: challenge individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Right stop? Who said that? Who was saying justice challenge?
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  Speaker 11: Where I have officials in Harris County in Houston, Texas
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  Speaker 11: that are now using urbage for inmates, felons, offenders, They're
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  Speaker 11: calling them justice challenge individuals. And I'm just trying not
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  Speaker 11: to laugh because you can't make this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What It's all funny to some people that property crimes
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  Speaker 2: are committed by justice challenge people until they turn on
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  Speaker 2: innocent victims like mister ti Walde and beat him dead
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  Speaker 2: with the baseball bat over two beers. Alexis Terrischuk joining
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  Speaker 2: me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Alexis what exactly happened.
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  Speaker 15: So the suspect walked into the market and he stole water.
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  Speaker 15: He stole bottle of the water, and he walked out
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  Speaker 15: of the store. John did nothing. He let him go.
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  Speaker 15: It's just water. But then the guy came back and
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  Speaker 15: he tried to steal beer again, and he was so
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  Speaker 15: he tried to stop him. He picked up a baseball
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  Speaker 15: bat that he had for protection at the store. Because
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  Speaker 15: obviously this is not a one off thing. Clearly, bad
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  Speaker 15: things are happening repeatedly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I looked at the Patriots, Alexis, and I say, the
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  Speaker 2: burglar bars on all the windows of this little store,
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  Speaker 2: So go ahead.
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  Speaker 15: And so he tried to stop him. He didn't hit him,
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  Speaker 15: he didn't shoot him with the gun. He just tried to
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  Speaker 15: stop him from leaving the store with the beer. And
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  Speaker 15: this man shoved him. He shoved him to the ground,
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  Speaker 15: the bat sell He picked up the bat and started
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  Speaker 15: beating him while he was lying on the ground. He
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  Speaker 15: had never been hitten, I'm sorry, he'd never been hit.
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  Speaker 15: And he in turn beat this man to death.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at one particular photo right now, and you
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  Speaker 2: see the defendant very clearly. He is a light to
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  Speaker 2: medium skinned mail and judging by the fact that he's
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  Speaker 2: standing next to a display and his head is taller
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  Speaker 2: than the top of the display, it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: chip displays you see right as you check out. This
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  Speaker 2: guy is between five ten and six feet tall. He
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  Speaker 2: is light skinned. He has close cut black hair. He
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  Speaker 2: has dark eyes. He has a goatee more like a
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  Speaker 2: soul patch. He has a very light facial hair that
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  Speaker 2: is a wannabe mustache. He's standing there in red shorts
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  Speaker 2: and a black T shirt no insignia, with black socks
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  Speaker 2: and expensive white athletic shoes that they're not Nike, but
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  Speaker 2: I've looked at that type before. They're expensive. And he's
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  Speaker 2: holding two beers in his hands, and he's looking at
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  Speaker 2: Johann John Toalde and Tualde is pointing his hand. You
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  Speaker 2: can see Toaldi's hand in the picture. I've study it
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  Speaker 2: carefully with his left hand. He say, put that back,
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  Speaker 2: put that back, probably speaking to him as he would
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  Speaker 2: to his grandson or his son. Put that back. No,
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  Speaker 2: put that back. I can just hear it ringing in
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  Speaker 2: my ears right now, joining me. We are very blessed
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  Speaker 2: today to have mar John phil Hower joining us from
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  Speaker 2: that jurisdiction. Customer, neighbor, parent, small business advocate. Listen to this.
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  Speaker 2: She's the co founder of the Balboa Village Merchants Association.
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  Speaker 2: She knows all about this case. Ms. Phil Howard, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you Nathey. And I want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure I mean these horrific details we can't forget, and
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  Speaker 4: about the kind man in the middle of this all.
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  Speaker 4: He was part of our neighborhood family. I was born
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  Speaker 4: in this neighborhood and I'm raising my three kids here
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  Speaker 4: who were also born in this neighborhood. It takes us
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: sixty seconds to walk to Richmond Market. It was the
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: first place I ever let my kids walk to on
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: their own because John was there. He was such a
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: kind man, and it struck me on one occasion when
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: my three kids walked back into the house chattering about
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: what they bought, whatever it was with Dorito's drumstick ice cream.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: But when I listen more closely, they were actually talking
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: about John and Nancy. They were talking about petting Nancy
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the cat. They were talking about John and their purchases
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: and his warm smile and how they made him. He
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: was part of building their confidence and he didn't have
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: to work. He cared about this community, he cared about
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: our kids, and we were so grateful to have known
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: him and to have learned from how he lived. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: remember in that moment thinking, these are the memories that
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: these childhood memories build up our children and it's part
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: of their lives. That it's now been tainted with this
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: nightmare because we have lost a kind soul to a
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: senseless act of violence. And my neighbors and I we've
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: had enough. We have had enough, and we have to
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: ask ourselves now do we feel safer now than we
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: did four years ago? Eight years ago? And speaking for myself,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the answer is a resounding note.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know how. I mean. I could put people
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: away all day long twenty four seven, three sixty five,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and I did for over ten years plus three years
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: as a FED. But that said, if the government and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: politicians aren't going to help, and you have DA's and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: mayors in position where they are carrying out their social
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: activist platform where they don't want people to go to jail,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: innocent people like mister Tiwaldy are paying the price.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: You know, Nancy, You're absolutely right. We have a local
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: supervisor in our neighborhood who campaigned on actually dismantling the police.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: We need to let the mayor do the job she
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: was elected to do. And instead we have an activist
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and ideologically driven board of supervisors locally in our neighborhood
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that's been pushing an anti law enforcement agenda. So we're short.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Hundreds of cops and residents are trying to organize themselves
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: so we can look out for each other.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: You know what hurts me the most, Smith Phil Hower,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I would say ninety percent of the people that I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: represented did not have a voice. They were all minorities,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: typically black, but other minorities, many of them, many many women, children,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: but others, and nobody was speaking for them. And I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: am not a politician. I hate politics. They actually discussed me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I'd rather try a serial killer than get alone in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the room of the politician.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: You're not alone, You're not alone.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But this has gone hate wire and at some point
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Jarrett Farentina Jaredtt is a veteran homicide prosecutor, and just
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: before he's joining us right now, he was set to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: try a case where a store employee was killed and
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the other side got a continuance. I further notice a delay,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and that's how we happen to have him with us today. Jared,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I want you to listen to our cut three. Who
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is the victim? Our victim, mister Talde. Take a list
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: our friends at KTVU.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: The family tells me to Wealde became a US citizen
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: eight months ago and underwent heart surgery in March.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Right after his heart surgery, he didn't wait to go
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: back to work because he wanted to be there. There's
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: something about that community he loves.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: And the community loves him. A neighbor contacted me about
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: what happened to Twalde, affectionately known as John. Others have
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: started to go fundme to help him and his family.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Relatives tell me doctors plan to run test on him
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: tomorrow to see if there is any brain activity.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And more from pix.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Mire on set as her dad loves the neighborhood so much.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Who works seven days when you don't need to work
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: like he just got out a hard censor tree. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: told him not to work. I have a job. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: can support them. Literally, he put me to college so
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: I can help them out. I do that, he still works,
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: then it does happened. This makes no sense.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Miron and her family are trying to understand how this
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: could have happened. They want justice, but most of all,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: they want him to get better. They want people to
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: pray for him.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: You know, to you Jariff Ferantina, veteran prosecutor, the social
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: activist with and a Jenny, you know what, God bless him.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But let them go and hold his family's hand. Let
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: them see what is happening to regular people like us
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that are out there trying to make a living, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: then people like this predator kills them.
• 28:22
  Speaker 18: It's so sad, Nancy. When you look at John's photograph,
• 28:26
  Speaker 18: you see an honorable man doing honest work. You get
• 28:30
  Speaker 18: to know him just by looking at it. This is
• 28:33
  Speaker 18: what happens when you cut police funding and the activists
• 28:38
  Speaker 18: are anti law enforcement. The reality is this thief entered
• 28:43
  Speaker 18: that store and stole water. John didn't approach him. Here's
• 28:47
  Speaker 18: the point, he didn't even have any police to call.
• 28:50
  Speaker 18: If you wanted to report that crime that's largely been decriminalized,
• 28:53
  Speaker 18: he probably would not have had a police officer respond.
• 28:57
  Speaker 18: If there was proper funding. Maybe this entire situation could
• 29:01
  Speaker 18: have resolved then, I hear.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: You would have, could have, should have. But what do
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: we do now? Who's looking for this guy who's helping
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the family. And as much as a daughter wanted her
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: dad to wake up, he didn't listen to our cut
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: twelve KTVU.
• 29:18
  Speaker 19: The San Francisco man who was attacked trying to stop
• 29:21
  Speaker 19: a thief died from his injuries this afternoon. A family
• 29:25
  Speaker 19: of sixty year old Johannes to Weld, known as John,
• 29:28
  Speaker 19: says he suffered a brain injury when the suspect attacked
• 29:32
  Speaker 19: him at the Richmond Market Thursday night. The store owner
• 29:35
  Speaker 19: says the suspect not to Weld to the ground, causing
• 29:38
  Speaker 19: him to hit his head. Friends have started a GoFundMe
• 29:40
  Speaker 19: to help support his family, and police are still searching
• 29:43
  Speaker 19: for the man responsible for the attack. If you do
• 29:46
  Speaker 19: recognize the individual, you're asked to contact San Francisco police.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Guys, as you heard earlier, there is a go fund me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, and it's called violent
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Crime in Richmond District. And that was that up in
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: part by our guest mar John phil Hower, who is
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the community advocate and co founder of Balboa Village Merchants Association.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's violent crime in Richmond District is going to his family.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just you know, Jason Jensen and Jared Farentine. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: want you to jump in, Jared about how what we
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: can do since obviously law enforcement has their hands tied
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and is not being supported in this area. But Jason Jensen,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: owner of Jensen Private Investigation's co founder Cold Case Coalition,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and you can find him at Jensenprivate Investigations dot com. Jensen,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's my understanding, and alexis jump in if you know something.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: In addition, but I understand that the suspect left in
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a sedan. What do we know about what kind of
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: vehicle he was driving, if anything, and what do we
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: do jasonson I want this guy behind bars, life behind
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: bars at the least.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: Really, what we've seen is an uptick in calls as
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: a private investigator because you're not getting that kind of
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: bach spot for petty crimes and stuff by law enforcement.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: So security details private investigations they're really on the uprise.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: And so what we would see, what we would do
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: in a case like this with mister Schwaldy is we
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: have an image of the perpetrator of his killer, and
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: we know a partial description of the vehicle. What we
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: want to do is canvas the neighborhood where we're going
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: to identify where this individual is hanging out. Obviously he
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: was there long enough to come to mister Twaldy's Richmond
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: store twice, so he was there visiting somebody living there nearby.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: You want to find out from a neighborhood surveillance footage
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: or something where that vehicle was, try and get a
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: plate of the vehicle so you can identify the individual
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: and help law enforcement out.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: That's a really good idea, Jared Farantino, Certainly with all
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: of the businesses along that street and Margie Jumping, if
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know, there has to be Jarrett Farantino, enough video surveillance.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think there were sixteen cameras in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: grocery store, but those cameras outside the grocery store may
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: have gotten a tag number.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: The businesses and residents have come to learn that having
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: cameras in front of their homes and businesses.
• 32:43
  Speaker 18: Undoubtedly they would canvass those neighborhood businesses and secure those cameras.
• 32:47
  Speaker 18: And I'm thinking they're working at identifying this individual. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 18: cannot imagine it's going to be terribly difficult to do
• 32:55
  Speaker 18: that in a neighborhood such as this, where people's talk,
• 32:59
  Speaker 18: people know each other. You know, John is known in
• 33:02
  Speaker 18: the neighborhood. You know, the good guys are known, but
• 33:05
  Speaker 18: the bad guys are known too, And hopefully someone comes
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: forward and shed some light on who this punk is.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohn joining us out of Houston, Andy, what are
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: we going to do?
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: I can tell you there should be some sort of
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: crime stoppers reward. We would have one up immediately, right now,
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: and we would offer it right now, anywhere from up
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: to five thousand dollars for information leading to his arrest.
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: And like your other guests had said, somebody knows who
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: this guy is. There's no iffens or butts about it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: So the public has to step up to the plate
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: and do the right thing and contact San Francisco crime Stoppers.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: And you can do it anonymous. Anonymously. You're eligible for
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: a reward if you want one, But quite frankly, just
• 33:57
  Speaker 11: do the right thing and get this thug off the
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: street right now. This sadly has become the new norm
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: in America. And we sit back and we condone this
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: type of behavior because we don't have real leadership, because
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: real leadership means admitting you have a problem. There is
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: a problem, not just in San Francisco, but all over
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: the country.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And if we keep electing people that don't care about victims,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: there's going to be more of this, and good people
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like mister t Walde are paying the price. Doctor Minna,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I don't quite understand why did mister ti Waldy have
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to die. He had two surgeries after the beating. Why
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: did he succome What may have happened.
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: Is that he already has severe enough injury from the
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: direct impact of the fall and or the beating with
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: the bet, but learning also that he had and heart surgery,
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: it's also possible that just from the stress or the
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: injuries alone, he could have had a cardiac event, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: then that can cause a stroke that may be by
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: that point irreversible. He may have something called a very
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: severe concussion, sometimes called traumatic brain injury or diffuse axonal injury.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: I'm thinking that the surgeries performed were either done to
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: relieve bleeding, or remove some of the bleeding and stop it,
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: or just to relieve the swelling of the brain so
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: that it can expand and not be constrained by the
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: skull around it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Ala has any news on catching this guy.
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: The police have not caught him yet. They have said
• 35:46
  Speaker 15: that he fled in a sedan, but they have not
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: identified the sedan. They have not released a name. They
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: haven't said anything that they have put out the picture
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: but to pictures because there's video. They haven't put out
• 35:58
  Speaker 15: the video because they don't want people see the violent assault.
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: But they have shown this man's face repeatedly. They have
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: two different pictures, but they have not said his name
• 36:10
  Speaker 15: or anything.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Guys, if you know information or thank you too. Four
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: one five five seven five four four four four goodbye friend,