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Episode 6: Alcohol Free vs. Non-Alcoholic — What’s the Difference? · Brew Tox with Scott & Scott

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  Welcome to Brutons with Scott Scott.
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  Bruto X lake detox only taste you.
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  I'm Bill Scott. And I'm Scott Smithson.
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  And this is a podcast that celebrates alcohol free beer.
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  Well, I have a question for you, our loyal listeners.
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  What's the difference between alcohol free non alcoholic and
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  de alcohol haze beer? That's a good question.
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  If you don't know, you're not alone, and it really does
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  matter. Yeah, it does matter and I think
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  we have developed a bit of an understanding on the differences
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  between the three. But Even so, there's still lots
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  so much to learn about really. Why is 1 beer called this and
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  another beer is called that? And is it the same thing or is
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  it different and? Yeah.
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  And we've looked at literally dozens of different alcohol free
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  beers now and we've made a choice on our podcast to think
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  of it as alcohol free. But there are many beers that
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  are called the alcohol eyes, many others that are called non
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  alcoholic, and some of them have legal ramifications.
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  And we'll get into some of that. In fact, I think we talked about
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  some of that. In a previous podcast, yeah, I
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  think we have, yeah. Yeah.
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  So I mean, what have you found out about the the readings of
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  the different languaging? Well, it seems that I'm, I was
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  looking at the beers that I had here and I had about a dozen
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  lying around lying around in my fridge.
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  And of the 12 say that I had, I had, there was only two that
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  were alcohol free labeled. There was nine of them, I guess
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  that were non or non alcoholic, and then one was D alcohol
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  lized. So obviously, clearly it leans
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  toward more towards the non alcoholic labeling for a lot of
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  beers. Every single one of those should
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  point out was the, you know, ABV alcohol by volume percentage of
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  0.5, right? All of those were yeah.
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  Whereas the alcohol free ones, the two that I had were both
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  were labeled as 0.0 alcohol. So.
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  But that's not necessarily a hard and fast rule.
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  No, and in fact it differs from various jurisdictions.
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  If you go to Europe, as we've discussed in the past, you know
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  it has to be 0.0 to be an alcohol free beer.
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  I thought, I thought that too, but then I looked into it a
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  little bit more and even there it there's confusion.
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  Yeah, it's certain countries. The Netherlands was one in
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  particular. So Netherlands, home of
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  Heineken. Yeah, right.
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  Dutch. So they're, they're very strict
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  about their alcohol free labeling.
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  It has to be 0.1 or less. So that's like that's
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  negligible. That's like no alcohol pretty
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  much. That's a little bit of alcohol
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  vapor in the lines kind of thing.
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  Yeah. And where's, whereas in Germany
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  it's 0.5, but they can label those as alcohol free in
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  Germany. OK.
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  So and of course in Europe, you know, there's free market,
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  people buy, you know, Italian wine in France and Spanish wine
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  in Germany, etcetera. Right.
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  It's all over the place. Yeah, I guess people in
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  Netherlands get kind of upset when they have this alcohol free
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  beer that's actually 0.5 and they're and the Brewers there
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  saying hang on a SEC, why are we under these strict rules and yet
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  you can bring that beer in and it's not really alcohol free
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  according to us. So that's that's there so.
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  And, and to be fair, most of the Canadian beers, in fact, I can't
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  think of a single one I've tried so far that hasn't been 0.5.
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  Yeah, yeah. And yet there are thought of as,
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  as you know, non alcoholic or the alcohol used.
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  I don't know if any of them have been.
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  Have you seen any of them that have been called alcohol?
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  Free or alcohol free? Yeah, yeah, no, if any of them
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  had alcohol. Free, I don't think so.
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  I think it's it's almost always the alcohol free ones seem to be
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  foreign beers like non Canadian ones and not even North American
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  beers like like European beers or Japanese beers.
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  Right, will be alcohol free. Yeah, de alcoholic sized.
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  I've I've only seen one and I just recently saw that when I
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  was up in Penticton. That was a D alcohol lized 1.
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  So yeah, definitely or non alcoholic.
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  Is it? It's it's funny though, because
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  like you had mentioned Bill, we chose to kind of go with the
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  term alcohol free. Yeah, yeah, I do think
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  languaging has an important piece to all of this.
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  I mean, you know, if you have a de alcoholic sized beer, it's,
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  you know, you've taken something out of it, right?
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  Yeah, it feels like you're missing something.
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  Whereas with alcohol free beer, my perception of it anyway is
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  that we're making a choice to move towards something, moving
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  towards a beer that is healthy, healthier, you know, definitely
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  more in keeping with, you know, Wellness and mindfulness and and
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  all of those kinds of factors that are becoming more and more
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  mainstream. I don't know too many people in
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  our generation who aren't aware of, you know, the fact that they
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  need to do certain things in order to stay, you know, healthy
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  in their older age, Right? Yeah.
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  So they yeah, they alcohol free part of it kind of lends itself
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  to that way of thinking versus the non alcoholic beer similar
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  to D alcoholic sized. Yeah, not it's it's not
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  something it's not alcohol. So it's kind of like, I mean, I,
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  I know it seems almost like, come on, you know, potatoes,
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  patatas type thing, right, tomatoes.
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  Yeah, some semantics. To it a little bit, but I think
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  it is important. I don't know if there's a legal
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  reason I have look that one up, whether in Canada you can call
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  it alcohol free. Yeah, in their marketing,
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  marketing will come out and they will talk about things being
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  alcohol free, athletic brewing from the States.
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  And we had one of those, you know, a non-alcoholic brewery,
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  you know, there's are labeled non alcoholic, yet they're
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  marketing talks about alcohol free.
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  Yeah. So it's kind of like, hmm, what
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  is it? Well, and I think part of it
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  comes down to the legal definition too, right?
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  You can get away with a lot more in marketing than you can when
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  you're labeling things too. So, yeah, I mean that is one of
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  the key elements relative to what people call things is that
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  there are some legal ramifications relative to the
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  amount of alcohol that can appear in an alcohol free beer,
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  for instance. Yeah.
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  So I mean, I think that's something that we want to kind
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  of do a little more kind of digging into and perhaps share
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  what we find with the listeners. Too.
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  I'm wondering if it's also, you know, akin to where on labels
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  they have to say may contain nuts or may contain milk.
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  You know, it probably doesn't, but it's in a facility where
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  they also make peanuts or whatever the the product is that
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  we're eating. Like the, like the dill pickle
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  pretzels we have on the side here.
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  Yeah. Which are very good, by the way.
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  Get them at Costco. Yeah, so like, you know, does it
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  say may contain nuts, may contain milk.
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  So maybe the alcohol, the non alcoholic beer, I can't use it
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  non alcoholic beer. Do they have a 0.5?
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  Does it actually have probably doesn't have 0.5% alcohol in it,
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  But do they have to set piece because it's made in a facility
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  that shares a facility with alcohol?
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  Yeah. Maybe, I don't know.
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  Probably does. You know the other, the other
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  piece of this is I think that marketing evolves, right.
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  I mean they've evolved with consumer taste.
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  They evolve with what it is that they perceive the market to be
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  looking for. And I think that, you know,
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  there you were getting past that kind of near beer stigma, you
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  know? Like Oh yeah, for sure.
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  And, and you and I have talked about this in the past where
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  we've had friends who, you know, we've sat down and we've been a
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  little bit, you know, kind of anxious about what they would
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  think about us having a alcohol free beer as opposed to regular
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  beer. And, and we've been pleasantly
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  surprised. That, yeah, we have been.
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  It's not been a big deal. I mean, you know, if that's what
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  you want to drink, go ahead and drink it.
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  And I think that that's something that really has come
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  up in the last little bit now. I mean, it's one of those cart
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  or horse kind of things. Did you know the marketing
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  change because the beer got better, or did the beer get
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  better because of the marketing? Yeah, exactly.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  But I mean, that's that's one way to look at some of the
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  evolution, if you will, because you really are looking at a lot
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  of people seeing alcohol free beers as being part of their
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  Wellness. Plan totally.
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  Yeah, the whole the whole idea of what I'm going to, I'm going
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  to switch it out. I'm going to have maybe I'll
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  have a beer, a regular beer or a regular drink and then I'll have
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  a non alcoholic one. Yeah, I just did that last
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  night. Dorothy and I went out for
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  dinner and I had a Caesar to start, right with alcohol in it,
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  which I kind of like a Caesar if I go out.
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  And then as a follow up, I had a alcohol free Heineken, right,
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  which it was just normal. Like it didn't seem strange.
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  It was just, well, you. Know, I mean, that is part of it
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  too, right? I mean, if you go out for an
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  evening for dinner and I know you guys went away from where
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  you live and so now you have to drive home.
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  And you know, not too long ago you would drive home after
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  having a couple of glasses of wine with dinner or you know,
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  God forbid more. But you know, now there's
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  definitely a stronger sense that that's not OK yes.
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  And as a result, if you want to have that kind of the flavor
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  little beer, but you don't want the alcohol, I mean it makes
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  sense to go and look for an alcohol free.
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  Beer. Yeah, exactly.
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  Well, all this talk of beer and it's making me think that we
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  probably. Are getting thirsty.
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  Need to have to have a drink to go with to go with these
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  pretzels again just to mention them.
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  OK, so I'll go. I've got a good one here.
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  OK, I have a an alcohol free one, one of the two alcohol free
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  beers that I had. OK, so should I get that?
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  Yeah, OK. You're going to tell me which
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  one it is, right? Yeah, I will tell you that.
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  Here we go. So why don't you read that one
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  while I get a couple frosty glasses?
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  Of course we. Can't have a beer without frosty
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  glasses. OK so this is Sapporo and as you
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  all know Sapporo makes a very fine beer and this is they call
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  it their alcohol free Sapporo Premium.
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  It's 0.0. It comes in a 12 ounce can and
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  it has 60 calories. And one of the things that Scott
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  and I've discovered is that alcohol free beers have a lot
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  less calories in them. Normally you would see this at
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  about maybe 1/3 of what a regular kind of brewery would
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  put a Bureau. That's probably Sapporo's.
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  Regular 1 is probably closer to 170 or 180, something like that.
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  Well, so so. Oh wait, you know we missed.
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  We missed a dad joke. I had one all lined up and
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  everything OK. Alright, OK.
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  Here we go. I was hoping.
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  You were you. I was.
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  OK this time. OK, so what's the best kind of
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  humor to use when you're having an alcohol free drink?
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  I'm. Afraid to ask, but what is the
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  best kind of humor to use when you're having an alcohol free
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  drink? A.
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  Little dry wit. With that, let's put this beer,
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  OK? Oh I love the sound of the
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  sounds. Good.
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  Alright. OK, so we've got a little
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  glasses. These are these are like flight
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  glasses, Yeah. But they're nice and frosty.
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  They are nice. And Frosty, look at the.
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  Hell on there. Yeah, it's.
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  Pretty good, huh? Yeah.
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  And like supporto, it's very light beer.
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  Yeah, very, very, almost yellow. Yeah, yeah.
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  Just gonna. Say golden, golden colour.
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  OK, looks. Yeah, OK, Cheers.
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  Cheers. And we'll.
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  Try this out here see what? It's like OK.
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  You don't? Yeah.
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  It's so funny. Temperature plays such a huge
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  role in beer. You know, if if I just taken get
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  out of the cupboard and we poured it in, just regular
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  glasses would be going, oh, God knows this stuff.
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  Yeah, right. But you have it cold.
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  You have it in a cold glass. Yeah.
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  You know, even. Oh, duels might be good.
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  Yeah. Right.
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  Well, let's. Yeah, let's not, OK?
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  Well, it's a very nice beer to the the head comes down pretty
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  quickly. It does.
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  Yeah, and that's. True of most of the alcohol free
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  beers, yeah. That we've had, yeah.
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  Is it because the head on an alcohol free beer is carbonated
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  like because of it's got CO2 in it so they artificially make the
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  head of the beer versus an alcohol regular beer has the has
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  the head on it for a different reason?
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  Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, that's a.
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  Really good question. I mean, when we, when we get a
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  brewmaster on here and we have one coming up in the next little
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  while, there are some of the things I want to ask about
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  because I am curious about, you know, because it does pour with
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  the head and then it goes down pretty quickly.
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  I mean, we've only been drinking this for less than a minute, I
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  would think. And we're both, you know,
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  there's no head left on it at all.
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  And I'm thinking if it was a regular support there would be
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  head left on it I think. Even though Sapporo is a
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  relatively late like beer, but this one is really quite.
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  Funny, had tasted 2 beers side by side and we've done that a
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  couple times, you know, with the Budweiser, we've done that.
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  I did it with my parents, with the Canadians.
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  Right. Or that was the Molson.
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  Sorry. You know, I'm drinking this and
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  I'm thinking I think it tastes just like a Sapporo, like a
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  regular Sapporo, but I don't have the alcohol version right
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  beside me. So I'm thinking maybe it doesn't
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  because it doesn't have sort of that that harshness that I find
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  when I drink a lager. Yeah, that this is a lager,
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  right? I would, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I mean that's pretty scores, but the interesting thing is the
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  cans been open for a while. Can you poured that and you got
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  a little bit ahead again still? A little bit, yeah.
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  What I what I find interesting about this is that there's not a
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  lot of, you know, after, you know, how beer can hang around
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  for awhile And this one, you know, I mean, there's a bit of
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  that, but not anywhere near as much as I would have expected.
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  That's for. Sure.
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  This isn't the first time I've had this because I bought it,
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  did buy a six pack of this and I think, I think I've got a couple
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  in the fridge. So I have had a couple and I
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  didn't like them as much before. Right now I I poured the whole
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  thing into a larger glass. So maybe by the time I got near
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  the bottom it had kind of warmed up again a bit.
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  I don't know. And I didn't, I found myself not
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  enjoying it as much as I have been enjoying.
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  Non alcoholic once. Yeah.
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  Lately, Yeah. Or alcohol free.
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  See there, there I go. Back and forth.
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  Yeah. Absolutely right I'm.
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  Jumping back and forth between the. 2 terminals.
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  Between the two terms, yeah, yeah.
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  So I don't know what would you think on our rating scale?
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  Yeah. I mean, I'm also, as you know,
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  I'm a big fan of more complex beers.
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  Yeah, and this one's a pretty straightforward kind of lugger,
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  ish. Not.
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  Much to it. No, it's just.
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  Yeah, it's a beer, you know, I mean.
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  I think the interesting thing is, is Cindy often says to me
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  that many of these alcohol free beers are really good summer
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  beer right getting out on the. Pad, right?
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  Yeah. And I.
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  Can see that with this support as well.
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  I would say on our scale, it's probably one that I would
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  definitely would drink it, but I'm not necessarily going to go
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  out and pick it over some others.
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  If I wanted an alcohol free beer and and my choices were limited,
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  I would definitely get it, yes. So that sounds like a three on
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  our scale, right? I.
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  Would agree. Yeah, I think so too.
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  Like it's fine. I've got, like I said, I think I
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  have another one in the fridge. I'll drink it, but I probably, I
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  probably wouldn't go and buy another just because of because
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  the options are growing. There's a lot more out there
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  that you can that you can get now, interestingly.
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  Enough I have 1:00 left in my fridge because I too have had
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  this looks back end of this before.
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  And my mother who's 91 was over the other day and I was talking
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  to her about alcohol free beer because she's curious about our
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  podcast and she took one of them home with her and she says she's
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  going to try it with Clamato juice.
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  Oh so I'm waiting to hear the story about how the alcohol free
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  beer worked with the climatologies compared to when
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  she used to or Clamato juice and her regular beer.
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  Because that's how she drinks beer.
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  Called a clami. Yeah, Red eye Clami, I think.
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  Yeah, I'm. Allergic to clams so I don't
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  know anyway. OK, well, OK, So yeah, I I3 on
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  our scale, 3:00-ish. Yeah, yeah.
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  Leanings a bit further, but definitely if I had to I would
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  and there were no other options that I wanted to have a alcohol
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  free beer, I'd buy it. But for the most part, you know
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  there would be others I choose over it.
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  Well. Listeners, if you, if you have
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  an opinion on Sapporo, if you've tried it yourselves, you know,
• 18:11
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• 18:30
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  digit over double digit followers now, so we're pretty
• 18:58
  excited about that. Oh, and I just dumped all the
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  pretzels. Oh, no, that's all right.
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  OK. Well, I guess, you know we're at
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  that point, Scott, where we probably want to share an
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  interesting factoid with our listeners in our 0 proof full
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  Truth Segment 0. Proof, full proof.
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  OK, well, I well, I have one. OK, here's a question for you.
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  OK, where was the where was the first alcohol free or at least
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  very low alcohol beer produced? Like where and when was it?
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  Oh my. Do you want me to give you some
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  like multiple choices like who wants to be a millionaire or.
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  Yeah. Yeah, let me kind of phone a
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  friend. Yeah, yeah.
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  OK, Scott, exactly. I'll tell you there.
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  OK, I'll tell. I'll just tell you please.
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  So the very first low alcohol beers were made in the Middle
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  Ages in England really. And they were called small
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  beers. Small being weak I guess was the
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  kind of feeling there. And they were beat about 1%.
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  And they were brewed and they were, they were pretty, pretty
• 20:15
  thick, almost like porridge like I've heard.
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  And they would drink them for breakfast.
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  It would be like a start of the day.
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  And they didn't drink them because people thought that beer
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  was drank. Way back when, because the water
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  was dangerous, but but it was more it was ranked four the
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  energy because it had more calories than just having water,
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  right. So they were going out.
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  They were, you know, hard labour.
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  So before the day started, they would have a small beer that was
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  brewed at home by the ale wifes or wives or something after we
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  get what their name was. But that was so in the Middle
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  Ages and the whole family would happen.
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  Kids too, would have a would have a small beer.
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  Yeah, kind of cool. Yeah, it.
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  Is, I mean, that's the tradition it seems that the the Brits have
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  carried on. That's because you can go into a
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  pub and buy beer at a very young age, OK?
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  OK. Yeah.
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  And have it whenever, yeah. Maybe it's continuation of that.
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  That's really cool. I think that's kind.
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  Of cool and small beer. I've never heard of that
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  particular phrase before. So there's another one to add to
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  our small beer near beer, non alcoholic beer, alcohol free de
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  alcohol used fear all the all the terms and stuff.
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  There's just so there's so many different terms that are coming
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  up within the alcohol free movement and we've we've
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  mentioned things before. Well, it's also, you know, I
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  mean, beyond just beer, of course.
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  I mean, as you pointed out in the past, you know, you had
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  things like mocktails and dry January and, you know, this
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  movement away from, you know, excessive amounts of alcohol in
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  our diet, particularly when we found that the health
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  connections to, you know, heart disease and cancer or what have
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  you. I mean, it makes sense that
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  people would want to reduce. Well, I hope you've enjoyed
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  listening as much as we've enjoyed bringing all this to
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  you. Come back next time because
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  we'll always have a beer to try and a story to tell after.
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  All this is rude talks. The Japanese beer we reviewed
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  today was Sapporo Premium 0.0 brewed in Guelph, ON and the
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  pretzels we had were Twigs Craft pretzels made by Refresh
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  Ventures in Calgary, AB. Original music composed by Zach
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  Wong. Original graphics by Shelby
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  Smithson. Britax is produced and edited by
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  Scott and Scott.