Latest / We Don't Smoke the Same / #381 We Don't HAWKGUY the Same with Jason Miknuk
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- 0:00Well, suck, what's up? What's up? Good morning? We don't
- 0:03smoke the same famin your boy. Actually mongst the spot still hungover, still
- 0:10high as fuck from Hungry pop up at Crappier Kings. That shit was dope.
- 0:14That shit was epic. He's donna put it down. I'm not gonna
- 0:18lie. He had like thirty vendors. The food was great. Part sold
- 0:21out. We got Quodas Market. That shit was fired. At w Chi
- 0:24Lives, we got Guccu Gang or Gotcha Gang, whatever that is. But
- 0:27that shit was fire, good ass food. Let's not even talk about the
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- 0:51missed out. If you're out of state, man, y'all maybe should fly
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- 1:00had obviously a Leen in her Man, Ralph Man, y'all know the EDC
- 1:07homies. It's just it was a blast, trust me. Shout out to
- 1:11Mo for letting us put it down. That shit was fun. Yeah.
- 1:15I just want to say, stay tuned for the next event, and this
- 1:18episode was great. We had the hot guy from the LAFC game. That
- 1:23shit was dope, super super super factual, facts dropping, knowledge dropping,
- 1:29bass dropping about facts. I came out here a super fan of hawks and
- 1:34shit now and birds and eagles and shit. But yep, we just want
- 1:38to say thank you for everybody who came to the show, to the pop
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- 1:59episode with the hot guy Thank you Matt Love, We love you guys.
- 2:04What up and good morning. Welcome back to another episode of that We Don't
- 2:07Smoke the Same podcast, and man like today was quite a scary morning just
- 2:12from the last twenty minutes or fifteen minutes I thought I had, like me
- 2:15introduced the guests first and then and then I'll tell you why. I was
- 2:20actually scared because I had to do with the guest joining me across. For
- 2:23me is of course my toxic ass co host as usual x G. What's
- 2:27going on? Ext G. I'm excited as well. This is gonna be
- 2:30that's pretty epic for us. I mean, this is pretty This is very
- 2:32epic because we know the game. Yeah, I mean two years, bro,
- 2:38two years, like and it's just like we've been going and it's like
- 2:42been probably the most. Tell him about them. Tell him how much you
- 2:45cried, dude from Wino left. Yeah, man, I'm still not done
- 2:50crying. That's a different story, Yes, dude, my soul man.
- 2:53Then he scored against us too, Yeah, but didn't celebrate, you know,
- 2:57but it's still which is respectable sportsmanship in my eyes. People can say
- 3:00what they want, but let's give it warm. What is it uh,
- 3:04what is the hand of applause To our guests, one of the l A
- 3:07f C Falconers or Hawk Hawk guys, Jason M. McK nook, Welcome
- 3:15and welcome, Welcome to the We Don't Smoke the Same podcast. Thank you
- 3:19for joining us. Man, it is quite This is all I grew up
- 3:23walking. Sorry. I grew up watching morning morning shows like Good Morning La
- 3:27and stuff like that when I was getting rid of school, and I would
- 3:30always love the segments when they would have the the the zoologist guy come and
- 3:35be like, oh, I'm man, show you these crazy animals. And
- 3:37then before that, I used to watch What's to Remember that show Me and
- 3:42You and sub boom m. Yeah, I used to watch that, and
- 3:46I always used to be like, man, how come I used to ask
- 3:49mom, welcome with those animals and hit the pet shop. You know what
- 3:52I mean? I used to always want those crazy animals I wanted in my
- 3:53own lemur and you're you're what would you say your career is? I'm a
- 4:00professional falconer, professional falconer. I play with hawks and falcons for a living.
- 4:03That's it. How did my whole my whole thing. Let's start from
- 4:06the beginning bro, how did you know you were Like, how did you
- 4:10know you had this doctor doodoo givet like because it's a doctor dude'll kind of
- 4:14gift it kind of is, but you can develop it though. No.
- 4:17I grew up with it. So you know my dad kid, right,
- 4:19like he's the that's my dad. Yeah, your dad looks like Michael McDonald
- 4:24dude. Like I told him that. He was like laughed. I was
- 4:27like, I know you know who it is. He's fly ass music.
- 4:30Yeah, So he grew so he did falconry. He fell in love with
- 4:32it when he was like ten years old. Lifelong obsession, right, and
- 4:38uh, it's just something we've always done, as obvious. So I grew
- 4:40up in falconry. Like this is how my dad and I bond as a
- 4:43kid, Like, hey, so let's go get this redtael out at like
- 4:46four o'clock in the morning and we're gonna go chase bunnies around with this hawk.
- 4:47Right, But did he have like as far as you remember, did
- 4:51he have a bird already? Like how did he learn? Because that's quite
- 4:54like some dads like if you haven't a rant thing, did you ride a
- 4:57horse? And stuff like that? Like falconry is like very unique. That's
- 5:00a very open Yeah, like how did he how did he know he had
- 5:02it for the birds? He growing up from what he told me, Like
- 5:05he was always just in love with nature, right, He's always a little
- 5:09nature kid running around so like old school Orange County when it was actually so
- 5:13open and everything like that, all the field, So he used to follow
- 5:15all the animal trails and just had fun with that. One of his best
- 5:18friends, Jeff, follows him up on the phone because there's this guy that
- 5:21has a hawk and it's just sitting in his backyard. My dad didn't believe
- 5:25him, and he instantly fell in love with it, and like I had
- 5:28taught him for a couple of years and my dad just took it and around.
- 5:30Oh so he so that was the og that taught him, like a
- 5:33little game. Yeah. So Falcon has been around close to seven thousand years.
- 5:36The only thing that's changed is celemetry. So when you held the bird
- 5:40earlier seven thousand years, yeah, seven thousand years give or take. You're
- 5:44talking to Japanese would do that a lot. Bro. That was like a
- 5:46loyalty thing, bro, Like they't have like bird cage. They had like
- 5:47bird cages and the suppers would come out of these like wooden tragles. They
- 5:50still have them in like the middle of the parks where they conserve. But
- 5:54like the birds would come out, and I'm like they were like that wasn't
- 5:57just I don't know the difference between those kind of birds, like, but
- 6:00I know they were predatory birds, which is what this is, right,
- 6:01Yeah, that's a real bird. Yeah, that's a real bird food caviar,
- 6:04I mean the caause caveyard. To me as far as i'm yeah,
- 6:06there's real birds and then there's bird food. That's so then because like the
- 6:12Chihuahua of dogs almost like where it's like not really a real dog. It's
- 6:15just like a little plaything. It's a toy. Mo. Yeah, are
- 6:17a toy like you know, chihuaha. It's a toy, right, Yeah,
- 6:21it's not like it's not a melonaw right, it's not a working dog.
- 6:25Nobody's gonna be scared in in other words, you know what I mean,
- 6:27Like I'm not gonna feel super secure if my Chihuahua is barking while I'm
- 6:31getting mugged, Like I need any more security than that, you know.
- 6:35So, so it's been around for a long time, So what age did
- 6:39you start learning. I grew up with it my whole life. Like I
- 6:42remember, I went to I got in trouble with my dad. Actually I
- 6:45took my Keshl's a small falcon about six inches to always about three ounces.
- 6:48Some people take their dad's car for a drive, he takes his bird.
- 6:51Yeah, I was literally I was like six years old, five years old,
- 6:54and I took my my falcon the KinderCare because I grew up with that.
- 6:56That was normal to me as a kid. Right right, we're in
- 6:59the nature where taking these birds out, we're doing what nature design them to
- 7:01do. We're taking them out, we're teaching them a hunt. And my
- 7:03dad was a big conservative conservative as well too, like he would help out
- 7:09the wild species, whatever species struggling, like a lot of falconers will take
- 7:11that that species, train them for a couple of years and cut them loose
- 7:14and hopefully they make lots of babies, right right, So, and it's
- 7:18just I grew up with it. That's what I did. That was our
- 7:21bonding. So so you said it's been around for seven thousand years, would
- 7:27you say if does this still evolve? Is it the same tradition? Is
- 7:30there anything new? About it. Would you say, it's still basics.
- 7:34It's basics. I would say, yeah, it's it's about the same as
- 7:38it was. The only difference is like the slummetry, you know on all
- 7:41you have that little orange or blue thing on her back. Yeah, that's
- 7:44GPS. That's it. Everything else is exactly saying. The train is the
- 7:47same. Everything about it is exactly the same. I remember I remember asking
- 7:54you while we were out there, and I think, yeah, I think
- 7:56it was you that told me that said, Hey, at any moment,
- 8:00if the bird wanted to, it could just say fuck it, I'm out.
- 8:03Yeah, you experienced that earlier. Yeah, And it's funny that you
- 8:11bring that, because the only thing that I thought in my head I was
- 8:13like, oh my god, not like because I'm like I really thought.
- 8:18I was like, what happened? So he shows Okay, so a week
- 8:20and a half ago, when we're in the game, he tells me this,
- 8:22and like, well, we're in around, around, and I remember
- 8:24out of that conversation, amongst other things, is specifically telling me, at
- 8:28any moment, the bird could choose whenever I'm done and I'm out of here
- 8:31and it's going to bounce right, we go down there and he's taking out
- 8:35a crate and he's taking out the burden he has, and the bird's rolling
- 8:39shotgun. All right, real quick, I gotta do a disclaimer. This
- 8:41is my fault. This happened right, This isn't on him, this is
- 8:45this is one hundred percent my fault. I didn't prep them continue the story.
- 8:48Yeah, I feel like it was on me. I was like,
- 8:52I'm the expert here, right, so you know, he's like, he's
- 8:56like, why don't you take the burden. I'm like, are you sure?
- 8:58Right off? Right off? Bed? The bird just saw me right
- 9:00now. You don't know me, you know. I'm like, I'm thinking
- 9:01like a bird is like a cat, you know, like where it's like,
- 9:03you know, it's not gonna don't fuck with you, don't fuck with
- 9:07it, just leave it alone. And it's like it'll come to you.
- 9:11So I put the glove on it, and I'm like, wow, this
- 9:13is majestic. Look at his beak. I never been this closed as I
- 9:16could take my eye out. And he's like, don't buy your head in
- 9:18front of it. And I didn't, so and then of course me I'm
- 9:20like, let me just show zeber real quick, how clean out like maybe
- 9:22you can get a cool picture of like zebrier. Look, he's like what
- 9:26and he's looking for the top and I don't know if like the bird got
- 9:28startled because you know, it is such a thing as hawkeyes. Maybe he's
- 9:31seen some movement from the top, but I didn't. There was a string
- 9:33that I was supposed to hold on to, apparently, but I had that
- 9:35wrapped around the glove. I didn't tell you. Again, this is this
- 9:39is my fault. This happened, all right, this is me. So
- 9:41the bird just goes and just flies to the tree and this tree that we
- 9:45hate up here, like so bad? What was your face though? I
- 9:48saw your face when it happened? What did you do? I panicked,
- 9:50dude, Like I literally turned. I was like no, Like I was
- 9:56like a loss for words because it's have you ever seen a kid lose a
- 9:58balloon and and the kid knows it's gone, Like we don't have wings,
- 10:03so like you know, you're not gonna fly or there's no Superman. There's
- 10:07a thing I'm like, and I know he's as a hawk trader, but
- 10:09he can't even fly up to the tree batch and get it, you know
- 10:11what I mean? No call firefighter know nothing. So I was like,
- 10:16oh, bro, like I was scared. Ray ran down and can captured
- 10:18it. So explain like how that how do you handle that kind of situation
- 10:22because I'm like, what can they really leave at any moment? Yeah,
- 10:26you saw him. He went up to that tree. He made a choice
- 10:28to come back down to us, right that that's but that was his choice.
- 10:33And I held up the food. Anybody calming down. I walked around
- 10:37the car, got in a good place for him. He just jumped down
- 10:37to my glove. He got a little piece of meat. We got that
- 10:39on film, yep, And yeah, that was it. I have a
- 10:43question, does it like know that there's other like bird species around that that
- 10:50wants to bunch on, Like, let you know, we have pigeons and
- 10:54stuff, would it you know, like, oh you know there's a pigeon
- 10:56like two miles down, I'm gonna go get it. He can yeah,
- 11:01like like their visions beyond anything we can fathom. It really is. So
- 11:05he's looking at everything, you know, three five miles down the road.
- 11:09He sees every single bird, every single piece of movement. And if you're
- 11:13really bored later on, I can you know, bore you to tears more
- 11:16so, and I can get into like the geeky science of all that.
- 11:20Please please this is like like this is like like for stoners, this is
- 11:24like it it's like having who's that guy, the black the Black Bill nine
- 11:30grat Neil Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that guy.
- 11:35Yeah. I was listening to him this morning and a Shade Forward five he
- 11:37was talking with sway in the morning. Yeah. They were all just like
- 11:41wow, and I'm like, yeah, Bro, it's like it's I was
- 11:43like, it's in your lineup career. Bro, It's like to us,
- 11:46it's where we just want to know so much, because, especially me,
- 11:48I'm a big nature a little bit bro, Like I I do agree nature
- 11:52is scary, brother, the straighting parts of naure where I just don't funk
- 11:54with, Like the ocean. I respect it so much that I just stay
- 11:56away from it and I just don't funk with it. Bro, Like it's
- 11:58it's not from from from Afar, but you know, like I'm I would
- 12:03want to say I rescue animals, like on the same thing, but Bro,
- 12:05I can't say I can't see an animal hurting like it or put it
- 12:09in a hurts position, and I won't do anything about it, Like I
- 12:11just stop. I have like the most ungrateful ass cat, Harvey, who
- 12:15I saved from the carpool lane, and it's I've been giving it some food,
- 12:20all right. And let me tell you this comes up when I'm only
- 12:26asleep and I'm like, all right, bro, I just I'm glad I
- 12:28know you're alive. But it's so it's we're big nature like like lovers man.
- 12:33Like I'm like, I feel like a lot of weed people or like
- 12:37people that are you know, that live the lifestyle that I live. Like
- 12:39you always see like, uh this this Scooby dudes with their shaggy's out there,
- 12:43you know, like that's that's a good way to put it. You're
- 12:46absolutely right, Yeah, Like you always see like uh like the even like
- 12:50the old mister Rogers dude with their cats in the house. Bro. Like
- 12:52you'll see them and go to Petco at two between the hours of one to
- 12:58three o'clock. You'll see like the dudes who live by themselves and they fucking
- 13:01have a cat and that's their best friend, dude, and those those cats
- 13:07and those little dogs little better left than I do. I want a refund,
- 13:09Yeah, straight up, it's like just getting chauffeured around left and right.
- 13:15It could be. It could be both ways, bro, Like I
- 13:16wouldn't want to be reincarnated and come back because the hat it's the cat I
- 13:18rescued, Like I'd be like, damn, bro, I would hate people
- 13:20too. But then it had a shitty life. Now it's gonna have the
- 13:24best life it's ever had. Dude. Yeah, but it's a dog owner
- 13:30as a cat dog owners. Okay, bro, but think of it like
- 13:33this. It's like being like a like a veteran's wife. It's like,
- 13:35oh, man, he made it through war, but like it's unpredictable with
- 13:39what's gonna what can happen at the house. What if he just like just
- 13:43snaps or something like that. Bro. Like you know, by the way,
- 13:46shout out to everybody out there who does go to war. I wouldn't
- 13:48personally do it, but thank you everybody for your service. Geek welcome.
- 13:52Oh yeah, thank you, thank you. Yeah yeah. I was like,
- 13:54so yeah, you you're cut from that special close. He's handling the
- 13:58falcons, Bro, he's part what part of the what part of the service
- 14:01did you I was a medic in the army. Oh damn? Oh?
- 14:05My God for your service. Okay, So medic like, don't miss it,
- 14:11don't miss it. You went to the you went across the pond.
- 14:16I've been in most major conflict zones. All right, So all right,
- 14:20my background is a little bit different. So let's we'll get in this and
- 14:22we can go back to the bird stuff really quick. Then. All right,
- 14:24So I was a professional MMA fighter before I went into the military,
- 14:30right, and this is we're talking two thousand and three, and I was
- 14:31already you know, a bluebell and Brazilian jiujitsu, which was considered high at
- 14:37that time because it was still relatively new in the US. Right, Uh
- 14:41oh three, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So so I was
- 14:45already a professional MMA fighter. I was making a living doing that. And
- 14:48then it's like, you know, this is something I really want to do,
- 14:50and I'm poor and I'm hungry and i want food. That's what it
- 14:54was. It's like I need to figure out planning because I wasn't making a
- 14:58lot of money fighting at the time. So and then it's they found out
- 15:03that I have the skill sets, and then where redoing the whole combatants program,
- 15:07like how the hand and hand combat stuff. And it's like all right,
- 15:09cool, we're going to dive into this aspect of it. So then
- 15:11I did a lot of training stuff and I was teaching you know, like
- 15:15my I remember at advanced in the Vidal training, so you got to basic
- 15:18in the army, then you go to a T and a T. I
- 15:20was teaching my first sergeant, which is you know, guy high up there,
- 15:24he's in fifteen eighteen years in and I was actually teaching him how to
- 15:30you know, do a certification for it. And then they brought me over.
- 15:33I explained to instructors what they're doing wrong. Got smoked in other words,
- 15:35you know, physical punishment like a bunch of burd piece for a few
- 15:39hours, kicks for a few hours, run for a few hours, moved
- 15:41down bags for a few hours. Because I was sitting there as insulting the
- 15:43guy and like you don't know what you're doing, right, And I remember
- 15:48I'm an e too. This is like I have mosquito wings, like the
- 15:50lowest of the lower right E one you go in is your They call you
- 15:54a fuzzy patch, right because you don't have any insignia E two. So
- 15:56there's this kid telling this full grown ass man. You know, I had
- 16:00at least one hundred pounds on me that he's an idiot. I had no
- 16:04tack. So anyway, so that's where a lot of my career was spent
- 16:08is doing training stuff and bouncing around going different conflict zones and doing various training
- 16:14over there for the most part. Did you see a lot of gruesome shit?
- 16:17Yeah, we don't. You don't want to get into that stuff.
- 16:19No, I'm not saying that. I want to let me take everybody depress
- 16:22right now. Yeah. No, No, So I do have a question
- 16:25though there are no falcons using the military, there're none of that aspect.
- 16:30That is where they were like, hey we need there would have been dope.
- 16:33I actually thought that's what you went inte. I was like, yo,
- 16:36did the FBI was like, hey, we need a falcon right now.
- 16:38So a lot of like my work is because I got the LAFC and
- 16:41I do a bunch of other stuff too, is with the falconry. So
- 16:44I do a beatment. So the US Air Force is the largest employer of
- 16:47professional falconers in the world. Wow. So because think about one of those
- 16:49engines, think about you know how much is like, uh, the F
- 16:52thirty five that crashed one point four billion dollars that crashed what two weeks ago?
- 16:56Yeah, right, yeah, I think about a bird strike on that
- 17:00the motor game absolutely destroyed. That's a multimillion dollar incident they have to deal
- 17:03with. And now that aircraft is down for you know, months because of
- 17:07a little tweety bird getting into the engine. Right, So they'll have falconers
- 17:12and they fly around and create a hostile environment. Right, it's like put
- 17:15in a like a shop, like put a shark in your pool. Right,
- 17:18you're not You're gonna get other real quick. So that's also another thing
- 17:22like a BMO. You don't see seagulls there you go, look at the
- 17:23collin chans cover the seagulls, seagull crop and everything like that. Right,
- 17:27And it's because we're out there, you know, one to three times a
- 17:30week flying the falcons and create a hostile environment and the you know, the
- 17:33pigeons, the seagulls are you know, oh screw this, let's go away.
- 17:37Let's go someplace safe like natural birds are supposed to do. That's that's
- 17:41wild. See I didn't that's a crazy fact to just find out, like
- 17:45to think that the air Force, because I have a cousin who's in the
- 17:47Air Force, and you know, I was like, he had mentioned something
- 17:49about it, but we were at a funeral, less than myself, so
- 17:52I wasn't about to be like, oh, hey, tell me more,
- 17:55you know. But yeah, but that's so cool, Yeah, your relatives.
- 18:00Yeah, that's not the time nor place. Yeah, but it is
- 18:06that. I never thought the Air Force would have been employed, Like,
- 18:07how many falcons would you say, like, you're flying at the same time
- 18:11when you're doing these reels. Shoot, that's a great question, man.
- 18:15So a contract, let's say March Air Force Base, right, fourteen eighteen
- 18:21hours a day, they got somebody on site flying the falcons around, and
- 18:23so there's probably a dozen falcons and they're flying one after the other after the
- 18:27other after the other constantly over that time span. So each air Force base,
- 18:34Army base that has some sort of trip, they probably have half a
- 18:37dozen falcons there at least. And that's because I mean, I mean,
- 18:41that's my sun, dumb. And that's because jets fly lower than airplanes.
- 18:44Right, No, it's just the takeoff and landing, So airplanes they have
- 18:48falcons too. A lot of airports use it. Wow, Okay, Yeah,
- 18:53it's a. It's a real industry. Yeah, because I mean I've
- 18:56seen when a bird goes into into a profeller that drope up the whole.
- 19:00Yeah, what is the the movie over the pilot gets hits? It does
- 19:06a bird strike has to land in the Hutson. Real event that happened,
- 19:08Ah solely, Yeah, so that's what happened. He Yeah, he had
- 19:14two geese. Both engines went down and he landed in the Hudson perfectly.
- 19:18And who's missing thro that? Why were those geese there? Who? Who
- 19:21is there? Someone to blame? Nature? Un when it used to be
- 19:27functional in work. They have the Migratory Bird Act put into place right to
- 19:30protect these you know, the migratory all the different stuff, and now the
- 19:33numbers are just exploding and it's unsustainable and they can't undo the Migratory burd Act.
- 19:38So it's really really hard to let's say, get a depredation permit because
- 19:41there's you know, thousands of geese landing over here. So like Sofi Stadium
- 19:48they have a full time falcon er over there. They have a full time
- 19:49falcon program because it's in the flight path. You got all that water,
- 19:52you got all that food and everything else. So it becomes a safety issue
- 19:56and they don't want bird strikes happening. And is you know planes are lying
- 19:59in l A. Yeah, it is on the path though because you do
- 20:02see it when you're coming by. And then now it makes like I'm putting
- 20:06it, put it in all these facts into retrospect, bro, Like I
- 20:07just really just blew my mind with the whole fact that how these animals are
- 20:11just they almost we've integrated them to a part of society roll and the way
- 20:17we work, and they kind of like it's like some flintstone shit Like you
- 20:19remember when he used to ride the dinosaur to work and that was his car.
- 20:22This this motherfuckers stop us from crashing. Bro, Like I will never
- 20:26get on the plane again and fear something more than birds being in the engine
- 20:30now, bro, Like straight, thank god for falcons. Yeah, it's
- 20:36a lot of the falcons. So it's like all these sized falcons and around
- 20:40that range because it's about having the right sized predator for the prey, right,
- 20:42So you think about it like you know, you get a you got
- 20:47a chipmunk, right, and you get a big old tiger and he roars
- 20:48at him. Check my slock on the care because it's too big of a
- 20:52predator for him. Right. Yeah. Now let me go get a house
- 20:55gut you know, Harvey. Yeah, put him in front of her,
- 20:57and that chipmunk's gonna have a fear of death, like he thinks he's gonna
- 21:00die because that's the right size predator for the prey. Yep. So now
- 21:06what's the difference, like do you have is there a difference between obviously there
- 21:10is falcons and hawks. Uh yeah. So the way that they fly is
- 21:14first off, so in the shape of the wings, So think about it
- 21:17like your airliner. Right, it's cruise and altitude four hundred five hundred miles
- 21:19an hour max. Right, So it's really for lots of lots to lift,
- 21:22so the wings are out wide flat. Now, the F sixteen was
- 21:26actually in those slick back models, was actually modeled after falcons, And this
- 21:30goes back to a defensive contractor and the dot or sorry DoD and he wanted
- 21:37something more streamline because of the Falcons are built for speed, high end,
- 21:41right, So only her top speed in the stadium is two hundred and ten
- 21:44miles an hour. Whoa in the statum, So she was at the top
- 21:48of the stadium and to accelerate from what it's like, what eighty feet one
- 21:51hundred feet maybe to the top of the very top of the arches right there.
- 21:56So forty fifteen miles an hour to two hundred plus miles an hour.
- 22:00Can you say that because she can go faster than that if she can go
- 22:03higher. Yeah, so right now the world record is the holder is the
- 22:07Peregrine falcon, which has the top speed of two forty plus. We don't
- 22:11know how much higher or faster it is. That's where everything maxed out at
- 22:15WHOA, So we don't have technology to calculate it or to well, the
- 22:19guy that did the experiment's extremely expensive, time consuming, really rich. Falcon
- 22:25are basically like, let me get a falcon, try to jump out of
- 22:26an airplane in a special suit, jump out of airplane with a pigeon,
- 22:32and let's get all this celemetry together and make this experiment you need iron Man,
- 22:37Yeah, now, let me go get elon. Musk is too busy
- 22:41making spaceships to go to more. Yeah, straight up. I bet he
- 22:48does have some kind of prototypes, but he's just like, do you not
- 22:51like especially having that dude Like I would be walking I would walk into an
- 22:55office and have like what do you call those that robot movie with Will Smith?
- 22:59Like too of those robots just just walking around be like, look,
- 23:02you can't go out the house, bro Like otherwise he's gonna bowl of cover,
- 23:04but the house got to be cleaned. And I don't really expect him
- 23:07to die, like I expect that. I expect him like if he really
- 23:11dies, but there like, well you can't know, I know little did
- 23:15you know we already downloaded his subs conscience onto this tesla, all right,
- 23:18so it's like some crazy well he has the right, Yeah, and then
- 23:25we got the other billionaire who's spending one hundreds of millions of dollars every year
- 23:27trying to reburst aging. You know about that guy right yea literally like cut
- 23:32twenty years off like his he looks younger than me. He uses it.
- 23:36Yes, I did see a video on that guy, and like his routine
- 23:38is so nuts, where like he puts so much stuff on his face.
- 23:42He works out at like four am. His breakfasts are like it's it's very
- 23:47unique. And then he injects his sun blood or something like that. Yeah,
- 23:48so young people blood because there's suposed to be more. They did it
- 23:52with mice. They figured it out with myself out. Yeah, and they're
- 23:56messing with Tilmer length stuff like that. So you know, Tilmer timlar lengths
- 24:00the ends of the DNA, and basically as it gets short and short shorter,
- 24:03it eventually stops reproducing and replicating, right, And they're thinking, that's
- 24:07part of what I do. So there's stuff that you can take and hormones
- 24:10that will actually extend the lengths of that. And there's also there's risks to
- 24:14that as well too, because that's how you know your body kills off cancer
- 24:17Because any given time, we have you know, hundreds, if not thousands
- 24:19of cancer cells in our body that we're constantly killing off. So the ones
- 24:23that we're not killing off are the ones that the telomere links aren't cutting correctly
- 24:29and it's not stopping the reproduction process. So that's the downside to using like
- 24:33those hormones and whatnot. Do you know any downsides from stem cells as of
- 24:37right now, I don't think there is any real downside the stem cells.
- 24:41That's just trip figuring out how to get the correct organs be produced, like
- 24:45they're producing ears on mice and sepperiments like that. So with Crisper technology.
- 24:49Are you guys familiar with that? Yes, chose exactly how you make Is
- 24:53that the same thing that Disney uses? Yeah, so the thing that your
- 24:57home also do that I think is Crisper. It's my future nin or so
- 25:03I have so no, because it's the same he's just verified it's the same
- 25:07company that has the same technology with him. So at Disney, my friend's
- 25:10an employee there, he's and uh, they offer employees there like this,
- 25:15like you chew, you can like build a baby, like you know,
- 25:18build a bear, like they offered that, dude to the to their employees,
- 25:22Like there's a program that you can apply for it and they'll choose you,
- 25:25like you have the they can choose you where you can like customize your
- 25:26baby type of deal and like and because it's a part of this program with
- 25:30Disney, like there's certain things that your baby can come with. And it's
- 25:34it's it gets weird. Mickey Mouse hears on it from here. I'm sure
- 25:40you could probably get like a birthmark that just has like a hidden Mickey on
- 25:42your kid. Bro Like, Like I'm pretty sure you could. I think
- 25:47I just rather get the tattoo. Yeah, Like it sounds way cheaper exactly.
- 25:49But but yeah, they have a similar program like that. And it's
- 25:53crazy because he's told me, he's like, hey, man, I'm thinking
- 25:56about going for it. I was like, He's like, can you be
- 25:57my baby's godfather? I was, man, I was ai baby got it
- 26:02bother Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, like anybody that doesn't know what crisper
- 26:06is, they can literally go in and genetically edit out certain genes stuff like
- 26:10that. You have several thousand sequences in your body and you can actually turn
- 26:14on and off different genes can so you can cancel it, so you can
- 26:18do something that actually will let's say, have reduce some quarters all levels.
- 26:21So this is something that Chinese are being accused of right now doing with their
- 26:25athletes is genetically modifying them and in the womb and growing these you know,
- 26:30basically a super super athletes, super soldiers per se. Yeah, bro,
- 26:33Japan don't just win the World Baseball three years in a row, just like
- 26:37because they're good the coursal levels all right. So let's say quarters all levels,
- 26:41right, so they can get a corsal shot. I've got a corsal
- 26:44shot. You play sports and you get a corstal shye and it kind of
- 26:45numbs it out. So yeah, so that that's uh anti inflammatory. So
- 26:52corsol is a really essentual uh hormone everybody. That's what wakes up us up
- 26:56in the morning. So so when you wake up the morning, your quarter
- 27:00cortisol levels really really high and your testosterone is low, and as the day
- 27:04goes on they actually inverse, so you're at peak, you know, testosterone,
- 27:10you know, three quards the way through the day, right, so
- 27:11five six o'clock at nighttime you're at so and that's also you see a lot
- 27:17of like with men, especially a higher sex drive in the evening time versus
- 27:19the morning time. And women don't necessarily have that same effect on it because
- 27:26the sascerrone is naturally so much lower to begin with. So cortisol has a
- 27:29lot of really good important benefits, but also at the same time it can
- 27:33really affect and hamper some of the genetic expressions associated around testosterone as well too,
- 27:40So you are able to produce more muscle mass with less you know,
- 27:44free radicals and less breakdown over time, and that the stresses in your life
- 27:48are less likely to affect those gains because when you're stressed out like you gain
- 27:52weight and everything like that, right, And that's all with the how your
- 27:56hormones are affected, so you're able to you know, inhibit some of those
- 28:00things signals upstream. Let's say like omega three does, right, and it's
- 28:04considered DHA is considered No sorry. E p A, which is one of
- 28:07the acids inside DHA, is a upstream inhibitor, so it helps with inflammation.
- 28:14So DHA about three percent of your brains made of it, and e
- 28:17p A is a acid that helps with turning off the signals for inflammation.
- 28:22So we have chronic inflammation, you have aching knees. Taking Omega threes,
- 28:25like krill oil, it's really really good for you because it helps decrease not
- 28:29so much the inflammation itself, but these signals to send the inflammation to that
- 28:33area. Salmon too from the mistake for sure. Yeah, so birability,
- 28:37the krill is the best one. I think it's like a three It's like
- 28:41a threefold increase. Doctor Ron Patrick had a guest on her show or a
- 28:45long time ago that dove into the science behind that She's insane. I hit
- 28:52I hit the sauna every time I hit the gym because of her it's just
- 28:55mando, Like, it's just saying let's say and then the benefit she says
- 28:57about just hitting this ana three times a week is just it's stuff you're sharing.
- 29:03Is just like I'm like, man, do you be on your your
- 29:07health tip? Man? Now? This is this Like I'm obsessed with learning
- 29:11anything and everything. Like all right, on the way here, I was
- 29:12listening to a somebody talking about book binding, how to make their own books
- 29:18and like taking what they call signatures, like through the pages together and how
- 29:21they did all that stuff. So the three and a half hour drive in
- 29:23today it was insane, traffic was horrible, But that's what I was geeking
- 29:29out on the way in. Yeah, So I mean, now here's the
- 29:32thing you said, you three and a half hour tribute you also you also
- 29:36mentioned to me, You're like, is that how far palm Palm desert?
- 29:38It's normally like two hours two hours fifteen minutes, worst case two and a
- 29:41half hour. Because I do want, I want to, I do.
- 29:45He didn't invite me, but I'm going to go out to there and film
- 29:48something with with the birds that you have. But is that do you need
- 29:52to live somewhere like that far to hold that many birds or like I'm just
- 29:56poor like I because I need land, like period, like I need some
- 30:02I have Like that's what I'm saying. Like the farther you get, because
- 30:03it's like I can't imagine you being a falcon trainer living in like by usc
- 30:07and shit. You know, like if I had like one bird, yeah
- 30:11I can get away with that. If it was just Allie and that's all
- 30:12I had, then yeah, I can get a little apartment and you know,
- 30:17do that. But I've got six hawks and falcons. We have a
- 30:19fool blown business around it. So you have twelve birds total, No six
- 30:22birds in total, okay, so between like my dad and I, right,
- 30:26okay, and we kind of have them separated at some of his house
- 30:27and at my house in case something happens at one of the one of the
- 30:32facilities. We have backups and redundancies in the program, right something as in
- 30:34like do they fight if I mean like what do you mean? No,
- 30:37if somebody comes in because Petere's not a big fan of ours, oh like
- 30:45Peter, like anything with any sort of animals, like they pets. They
- 30:48don't even like pets. They think pets are. Yeah, it's better to
- 30:51euthanize them and let them live in captivity, right, like ninety six percent
- 30:56or something like that. You can fact check me, like something like ninety
- 30:59six six percent of all animals that they rescue and seventy two hours or a
- 31:03dispatch. Wow, fact check me on that, because I don't want to
- 31:07get in trouble. He's yeah, they have a mental you have like people
- 31:15that have you ever encountered any issues like that where people have tried to liberate
- 31:19the birds because they're like crazy radical on that knock on wood like most time,
- 31:26most people like if they're they're verbally if they're going to be verbally aggressive
- 31:30with me, I keep my distance, I keep my bird safe and I
- 31:33you know, I I want to get out of there, you know,
- 31:37as quickly as possible. That's something like every self defense guy on the plant
- 31:40is going to teach you, like the fight that you always win is the
- 31:42one that you can avoid. So somebody's hostile, somebody's aggravated, I'm not
- 31:47going to engage with you. I'm going to go the other direction. I
- 31:49don't care how it makes me look, especially if I have you know,
- 31:52my bird, that's that's family. Like you know, we had text out
- 31:55earlier. Right, Sorry, no, that's bond. I get all my
- 31:59birds mixed up, so always a couple of shades lighter. So we'll pull
- 32:05it out for the cameras and everything too. So yeah, I wasn't saying
- 32:07if you want to if you want to bring around. I was like,
- 32:08you could feel free. But I mean that's do you remember we'll do it
- 32:13towards the ends. That way, we're just having fun. Basically, we
- 32:15just beat up and we can have the bird flying in here. That's the
- 32:19nice thing with Yeah, that's nice thing about the hawks is like he can
- 32:21fly in this little room. This is what like twenty by twenty Yeah,
- 32:24yeah, it's like a booth. So you know I'm saying it. It's
- 32:30like a High Times booth. All right, bro, some of these High
- 32:32Times booth are pretty big. So a falcon couldn't hang out in a room
- 32:37like this. It freaks out. She can like all he can hang out
- 32:38like she's super stable. She she loves the crazier the better, like she
- 32:45loves, you know, being at the stadium, and she that's really her
- 32:47jam. And that's and every bird's different. Like when we started this program,
- 32:52we got six falcons and we figured out which one would be best for
- 32:54us, and you know, and where they'd be the happiest, right,
- 32:58yeah, because you know, let's a you know, like I I would
- 33:02die and teeters and boredom if you're like sit on computer and you know,
- 33:06transpose all this for me. Right, that's there's nothing worse you can do
- 33:09to me on the planet. Right. And everybody has their jobs that they're
- 33:13inclined to, like you have your Everybody has their own things, right,
- 33:15I got the freaking birds, like yeah right, so highway be real?
- 33:22Yeah, so how did it? How did you know Ali was the one
- 33:25for the stadium? Because you said you buy all of them? Was it?
- 33:28Just as they as they're growing up? So we imprint them. So
- 33:30we're taking them to Charger games, Rams games, or taking them over to
- 33:32USC games as you know, little fuzzballs literally you know, so they're using
- 33:37the pictures of them where they're literally you know, they can fit in the
- 33:38palm of your hands. This is not just the LAFC thing the bird flight.
- 33:44Oh no, I take them to the games, okay, right,
- 33:45so they can all the noise, all the chaos and all that stuff.
- 33:49So that way they're used to it, and we're imprinting them on it.
- 33:51So it was literally, you know, every sporting event I can get into
- 33:54with the falcons, and you know, it's really cool. A lot of
- 33:58like the owners, so you know, like one of the owners was the
- 34:00Dodgers everything else. So we're able to get into a lot of various venues
- 34:04because of his access, which helped create Ali and Sunny to be as stable
- 34:09and confident as they are, because that makes sense. I was wondering.
- 34:13I was like, how do they not freaking out? Like this must be
- 34:15intense for a bird, but I mean, obviously I didn't know that you
- 34:17took him like a baby. So he imprinted them on it, and not
- 34:21all the birds liked it either. And there's there's one falcon he wanted to
- 34:25just be a mass murderer like anything with feathers, anything anything with feathers.
- 34:34Like he was like, you know, like he looked like he was cooked
- 34:37out of his mind and wanted to go eat them. Which is really really
- 34:39bad because I watched him like a month ago or whatever it was, we
- 34:43had that injured pigeon land on the pitch and all he flew ten feet past
- 34:47them. I did see that, but like me and my lady were filming
- 34:51the bird. I was like, how did it not stop? But sell
- 34:52from natural instinct, just tear it apart. Absolutely focus. She has blinders
- 34:57on, she's staring at us like this. She goes, that's nice and
- 34:59keep going. And that's that's the type of confidence. That's the type of
- 35:02the stability that we're looking for in a bird. Now, if I had
- 35:05one of those other falcons, that would be a whole different thing. And
- 35:07that bird, you know, they had some serious mental issues. So there's
- 35:12avian influenza going around right now. West Nile is really bad right now,
- 35:15and those typically affect the brain of birds that cause the brains all swell and
- 35:21they actually funny. So when you see a bird like that one, there
- 35:23is some brain damage that happened there. So you know, out of amunds
- 35:28of safety from my bird. That's why we train them to be focused on
- 35:30us because a lot of other birds, including text that would have been lunch
- 35:35and now I have to worry about the you know, secondary infection from that.
- 35:38So is the bird that you said, is that? What is that
- 35:40a parasite infection or like just a virus. So it's a virus yeah,
- 35:45is there like how do you treat that? Is that bird still trainable?
- 35:47Like do you still are you still able to use that bird? It has
- 35:51a mortality rate of like ninety percent. Oh, so it's like it's it's
- 35:53it's just a matter of time. So bond actually, uh god, West
- 36:00Nile at one point and I didn't even I didn't even know. He's just
- 36:01kind of acting a little bit off. It's like, all right, cool.
- 36:04I gave him some extra food, just let him hang out in the
- 36:06house, and he got through it. And it wasn't until a couple of
- 36:10weeks later and he was multing out dropping his feathers and I'll show you guys
- 36:14later on off camera, like there's some feathers that look greasy because those were
- 36:16growing in when he got sick. So and there's like puss and everything in
- 36:21there. And then I called up some bets, goes that I'll put money
- 36:23on that's West Nile. So damn. See I didn't I didn't think like
- 36:29that's that's obviously mosquitoes, right, Yeah, and we've got to invasive species
- 36:32now too. You guys seen the black one with like the white or silver
- 36:36bands. Yeah, I like ankle biters. Yeah, I have. I
- 36:38have seen those all over. Yeah. No, it's and they were after
- 36:43like certain blood types more than others. Like it's crazy because my girlfriend gets
- 36:46them all the time. I think they probably smell the weed in my boot
- 36:50and they're like, noah, I ain't trying to get high because because I
- 36:52never get big bro, Like if I have to be like, they're probably
- 36:55just like nah, bro, They're like, this is in their eyes.
- 36:59Probably have that that little sign that comes in my pen. This is California,
- 37:04Like, don't try that food, dude. But yeah, no,
- 37:07those those are some crazy. Those are the ones that quote unquote conspiracy theory
- 37:09says mosquito little bar code. No, dude, it's just the way it's
- 37:14striped. Man. I slapped one and I saw it like a close up,
- 37:17I'll see no fucking bar. No. People people say that it because
- 37:21it's striped, dude, the white and black bars on it, it makes
- 37:22it look like and they say those are the bill Gate mosquitos. So those
- 37:28ones are are invasive species from China. They came out to the US actually
- 37:34the Port of La about two thousand and one. Giver take is the best
- 37:37estimates that they have on it. You said they came from China. They
- 37:39could be transformers, dude, with the crisper technology and everything on it.
- 37:45Yeah, man, straight up, it's like this big do you do you
- 37:51feed them bird? Like? No, you don't have bird food. The
- 37:55bird food. The bird food is other birds, That's what I was asking.
- 38:00So I have we actually ethically source quail. So if you ever go
- 38:07to a sushi bar, you have quail eggs, right, yeah, right,
- 38:08so those breeder quils aren't fit for human consumption. Instead of throwing them
- 38:12away, the guy then freezes them and then sells them to falcons for bird
- 38:16food. So literally, I'm taking what's considered trash and I get to feed
- 38:20my burses and it's honestly to me, it tastes just fine because it'll defrost
- 38:24occasionally, so I can't refreeze it because they'll get the bird sick. Right,
- 38:28So yeah, there's too much meat there. I'm like, all right,
- 38:31cool, I'll cook it up then, But can you like you can't
- 38:35just go like it has to eat like other bird. Like can I go
- 38:37to thea and be like, let me get two pounds of con salad and
- 38:40its just like not cook it and give it to them like like will it
- 38:45eat it or will they get sick? Yeah, they would get sick off
- 38:47it. So people injured raptors will do that a lot. They'll get like,
- 38:51oh, we'll give them chicken or something like that. So if you
- 38:52look at the it happens like I see it all the time, like people
- 38:58will That's what I would have done. I was like, yo, just
- 39:00look at he's the predator heats birds. Let's give him chicken, right exactly.
- 39:04I can't blame you for thinking that way. Like, but the thing
- 39:07is, like it's not colorically dense enough. So if you look at let's
- 39:09say, you know the quality of the meat. So let's say chicken versus
- 39:14turkey versus duck. Right, duck super fatty. It's hard to dig,
- 39:19hard to break down because of our stomach acids versus like the falcons they're trained
- 39:22for, you know, eating you know, pigeon and doves and you know
- 39:27seagulls. Like if you look at the type of meat, it's super super
- 39:30super red, super dark. So that's a lot of stuff. Yeah,
- 39:34it's really colorically dense. So now I use quail because it's a happy end
- 39:38between because I can feed both my hawks and my falcons that and I keep
- 39:42the food the same because it lets me to regulate their temperature. So only
- 39:46she has a set weight, like in the morning of the game day,
- 39:51like she's supposed to be six hundred and forty grams, which is about one
- 39:54point two pounds, right, wow, And by the time we actually go
- 40:00to fly, she'll be about six fifteen to six twenty. It is kind
- 40:05of like her ideal weight, and that will affect her flying too. Like
- 40:09the heavier she is, the more fun she wants to have, less focus.
- 40:13She is, all right, wow, see fog five people lazy,
- 40:19Like, let's focus you are, I think of weight? No more productive.
- 40:25So but that's that's really what is down. So I can keep the
- 40:29food consistent, so I can measure it out. So right, she needs
- 40:31fifty five grams a day before to get her to this way. And now
- 40:35if I have like a variable, you know, foods I'm giving her,
- 40:38Let's say something like let's say I don't know rabbit, or then I have
- 40:42squab over here, pigeon, and then I have quail. That's all going
- 40:45to be different chloric values for the same weight. So her weight's gonna be
- 40:49all over the place, so I can't be as consistent. And that's what
- 40:51these guys really really crave is to having that structure. Same thing. It's
- 40:54like I think of it like working dogs, right, Like my my malanwall
- 40:58is, Like I'm very exact on everything I do with them, how I
- 41:00interact with them, how I do my obedience with them, and everything.
- 41:04There's certain standards that are expected out of me from them and vice versa.
- 41:07Can your birds survive in the wild if you were, if they were to
- 41:12just be released. I like to think so, because they've had years and
- 41:15years of you know, basically training to hunt. Right, So in the
- 41:21wild there's a mortality degrade in the first year loan of ninety percent when it
- 41:24comes to birds of prey, so they don't live that long. No,
- 41:28in the wild, like seven years is a great run. Right, You're
- 41:30gonna have three or four clutches. Think about one nick, one cut,
- 41:34you're dead, right. Think about you ever had antibiotics in your life?
- 41:37Yeah right, yep, yep, yeah, all of us have and if
- 41:42we did not have that would probably be dead. Yeah. Realistically, Like
- 41:46they're like, so the birds that survive past the first year are like the
- 41:50genetic freaks. Right, they're the NFL players. I'm not good enough to
- 41:53be in the NFL, so right, And that's just the way, that's
- 41:57just the way it is. And though in captivity they're able to especially for
- 42:01teaching to hunt right, like like Bond and texts like those are you know,
- 42:07quasi hunting birds, Like they get those reps in and there's no consequence
- 42:09for failures. They just get to learn more and more and more. So
- 42:14these you got to think about it. I mean, he says it.
- 42:15Imagine meing a falcon that didn't know when to stop because no one teaches you,
- 42:21like said, they're hardwired like they they know instinctively. But at the
- 42:27end of the day, it's absolute terrifying. Soone all, he hit that
- 42:30two ten. It was the the It wasn't even that the pitch wasn't there
- 42:34yet. It was a sand underneath it with rebar sticking up, so it
- 42:37was probably five feet down from where the pitches now. And it's literally I'm
- 42:42looking at this and I'm thinking, you know, oh my god, my
- 42:45bird is gonna die. My bird's gonna like explode on the ground. Right,
- 42:47And so I pulled the lure in I just crow up in a ball
- 42:51and I'm trying to get her not to focus on me. She comes down
- 42:53six inches from it and then decides she wants to weave through the rebar.
- 43:00They have. They play games like that, like, uh my peregrine falcon
- 43:02does the same thing, like he loves, like I do a lot of
- 43:05stuff out in you know, Katilla Valley, Like he weaves to the palm
- 43:07trees at one hundred plus miles an hour and you can see him doing this
- 43:10full bank like an F one car and just going through it. It's insane
- 43:15and just like everything else, they might calculate wrong. One time, nature
- 43:19happens. Yeah, and it hits a tree. Yeah it happened, like
- 43:22yeah, they just like anything else, not not to me. Yeah,
- 43:24thank god, no, yeah, yeah, but nature happens. They get
- 43:28sick, they get injured, you know, they find a tree, they
- 43:30find glass, like that's a that's a real thing. Damn, that's you
- 43:34know, number one killer of birds is in fact cats. Damn. He
- 43:38looked at me like he's like, I can tell you that he loves.
- 43:42Yeah, so I have the very so I have a very not a loving
- 43:46approach towards the cats because of how they have such a drastic impact on the
- 43:52ecosystem they do. They're killing some of the most beautiful bird species in Hawaii
- 43:57because they have such a like fur cat problem out there. So like they
- 44:00just they've been bringing rampant and like the forests and they're the population of storted
- 44:02birds that they help fermentate the land and all this ship are fucking it up.
- 44:07It's like a whole ecosystem ship. It is super complex, and it's
- 44:10like, okay, so they so we had the colinars go into Hawaii and
- 44:14they bring rats come on the on the ships, right, So and now
- 44:17they got a rat problem that's eating all the produce and everything. So they
- 44:21oh, let's get some cats in, right, And the cats did a
- 44:22great job and cleaning it up, and they fail to see the impact of
- 44:25it. Cats started fucking and they nature happened and there's a bunch of cats
- 44:31and now they're taking over. Now they're eating and not just the rasts because
- 44:34the rats population is under control, so they're going after the birds and they're
- 44:37keep populating and now we have likeuring blackbirds, grackles and stuff like that.
- 44:40If you go to Honolulu, the little blackbirds that's like half my business to
- 44:45getting those guys away from you guys and your while you're eating, Like literally,
- 44:49they're that bad. They'll land on your plate and then eat with you.
- 44:52Yeah. Oh yeah those I know why you talking about those little Yeah
- 44:54yeah, you're in blackbirds invasive species and those motherfuckers a kind of annoy to
- 45:00bro. Yeah, I kind of yeah, I know. I don't.
- 45:04You see patios out there, bacon You're like, well, this restaurant has
- 45:06no weight. It's like no, bro, they just watch She's going just
- 45:08in basis pieces everywhere though. And different animals too, like the pigs,
- 45:12I mean the hogs over there in Texas. You want some Yeah, yeah,
- 45:15sure, I guess. So you can kill those hogs like on an
- 45:17airplane, on a helicopter or whatever. I've seen videos of that and I'm
- 45:20like yeah, and they've gone to the point where they're allowing people to poison
- 45:24them, and I have an issue with that. I get it, like
- 45:27it's destroying agriculture that are killing livestock, like feral hogs are dangerous. So
- 45:31like part of my family's from Arkansas, Like I'm I'm half redneck, right,
- 45:37so as a little as like a little kid, I'm walking around like
- 45:39I'd go walk off my grandpa's ranch, right, and I'm like eight years
- 45:43old. I have a twenty two magnum on my hip for that exact reason.
- 45:46Because there's feral hogs out there pack you. Yeah, they'll attack the
- 45:50funk out of you with the horns. The horns come out, right,
- 45:52yeah, because it's the same animal, right, a pig and a hog
- 45:55at the end of the day, just one's fair one and the horn something
- 45:58like evolved on site. Yeah, so literally, within like a week or
- 46:01two, like the they'll start growing hair, the teeth, these massive tasks
- 46:06will start growing out. It's absolutely insane. So then you hear the stories
- 46:08like Godzilla hogs that are like a thousand pounds, so it's just it's insane.
- 46:15But yeah, and we actually have them here in Sokol too, So
- 46:17if you got to like Emmet, they have an issue there. They're migrating
- 46:22further up north. I grew up in Lake Elsinore, so eventually they will
- 46:24be in elsewhere. I mean, I put money that that's in South Elsinore.
- 46:28If you go down to the Mecula area, like, I'll put money
- 46:30that's over there. Yeah, because I mean I grew up and I've never
- 46:34heard of it, but you're right, it's just a matter of time.
- 46:35It's gonna no one. There's no natural predator for it, and there it
- 46:38would be the natural predator. Obviously, you can't just throw a new animal
- 46:42in there. US like that. That's it is, like in California has
- 46:46such restrictions on hunting, even on private land and based the species. They've
- 46:52loosened it the last few years because it's cost tens of millions of dollars.
- 46:58Basically it's a twenty five dollar permit now and then you have to get you
- 47:00know, written permission from the landowner. I mean, land rights are really
- 47:04important to hear in the US, so it makes sense. But then it's
- 47:07like, okay, then inside county limits, you're not allowed to use rifles
- 47:10versus this. So there's a lot of limitations on what we can actually do.
- 47:15And then you know a lot of the other i'd say less human options,
- 47:21snares and stuff like that we can't use because it's considered unethical and banned.
- 47:24But you know, we we're literally fighting for uh, you know,
- 47:30our lands because there they can kill, you know, destroy, you know,
- 47:32one hundreds thousand dollars of crops in a day or two. Yeah,
- 47:37so farrel hogs if you missed it, farrel hogs. Yeah, like the
- 47:43fools with the little horns. Yeah, taking over not didn't kill them,
- 47:46Well, it's gonna kill them all. Like like the big cat. You
- 47:49saw the big cat, the holly one one that they have here. I
- 47:51think they even have a name for it. P two ninety something. Yeah,
- 47:54you know the Mountain Lion, the mountain crazy mountainin how it's like how
- 47:58they just let it roam. It's like that's to get destroyed before he kills
- 48:00someone. There's like hikers out there. It's just a matter of time till
- 48:02someone could. Yes and no, most of the time those guys are absolutely
- 48:06terrified of people. Like I've come. I've come face to face with the
- 48:08Mountain Lion before. And you know the Chris Pratt No, all right,
- 48:19I was, I had my bird out, We're out hunting. He flew
- 48:21across the rocine, you know, he slammed a pheasant and it took me
- 48:24like forty five minutes to climb down, go around, and I'm getting to
- 48:27him and above him, going back down and literally I stumble on the Mountain
- 48:30Lion. And all I can think of is like I pulled out my blade,
- 48:34so my normal well you got to remember, I'm out, I'm out
- 48:37semi boonies, right, so my eedc is not the same as if I
- 48:40was here in l A. Right. So I have a fixed you know,
- 48:45seven inch Tonto and and my pistol on me, and I pull out
- 48:50the Tonto and I'm just screaming at him as Tonto's curve blade, right,
- 48:55and I charged them, and thank God that he chickened out because I know
- 48:59what I was going to do next. I like, my bird is right
- 49:00there, he's gonna die. I don't like, no, that's that's like
- 49:04I said, it's like family, Like I will go to war for you
- 49:07know my birds there. There's as much as my family as he wasn't even
- 49:09thinking about eating you. It's all about all about the yeah, because he
- 49:15was on little ship, so he was there and I'm I literally I stumbled
- 49:19on him and I just pulled out the knife and I just start yelling.
- 49:22I charged him. I'm like, I'm this is gonna make for a really
- 49:27really great story, or it's gonna be a hell of a thing. On
- 49:29the Nightly News earlier. Today, a professional falcon is multi death by mountain
- 49:34lion. He lunged on intact and grabbed it. Dude, you go on
- 49:37the Hall of Fame though, on the falcon fame. I expect that was
- 49:42an award after that one, all right, but I went out that way.
- 49:44You have to vote for the dar was an award. I don't.
- 49:45I don't think an animal like that. I think like when something like that
- 49:49happens, because it's such a wild animal, it's like almost like it just
- 49:53looks at it, like the audacity. Nobody's ever had the audacity to charge
- 49:57on me. So I'm a boat book it because this has never happen.
- 50:00Everybody's usually scared of me. But you know what I mean. It's like
- 50:01when you see like a bear, like you can fucking scare the shit out
- 50:05of a bear if that bear has never been called on this bluff before.
- 50:08But you're taking that risk, you could die. Like with grizzlies, they
- 50:12tell you, you know, just slowly back up and you know, go
- 50:15the other direction. You're not gonna win. They find those bears, like
- 50:20like the man killer bears. They'll find them with dozens and dozens of like
- 50:22nine millimeters rounds in them? Right? So you got it? Have you
- 50:25seen Grizzly Man? Yeah, I'll show you that documentary nasty. Yeah.
- 50:30Yeah, but it's the same thing now with like brown bears, Like,
- 50:34okay, then you get big, loud, and you get aggressive, and
- 50:37they're smaller. They're far more aggressive than the grizzlies are, but you know
- 50:40them to mall you. It takes a lot more effort on their part versus
- 50:44the grizzlies or what like eight hundred pounds and terrifying. Yeah, their piles
- 50:46are bigger than your face. Like, no, do you have other birds
- 50:51aside from like them? Like, have you ever tried trading an owl?
- 50:54Yeah? I've had a few owls actually, yeah, so, and owls
- 50:58are really cool, especially the type that we've had. We've had a I'll
- 51:02show you a picture later. I grew up with an owl named Cosmos.
- 51:05It is a male, male great horned owl, and he hated everybody button
- 51:12me. He was basically imprinted on me and baby. I spent five six
- 51:15years with him. And I would crawl into my dad a big free flight
- 51:19chamber about this size, twice as high, and I'd go in there.
- 51:22I'd dig a hole underneath it, and I'd go and I'd cuddle this owl
- 51:24I had, like four or five years old. He's got the cool ones,
- 51:27dude. Those are like the ones that's a drake owl. Yeah so
- 51:30now now the other one actually really like a lot more than that. That's
- 51:32even friendlier. Those those guys can be a dick, like neither really really
- 51:37sweet or they're a complete asshole. Like there's all in between. But the
- 51:40Cavy Blazers have likes to yell every fucking morning at night like, yeah,
- 51:44so check out the Raisian eagle owl, right, and they're just a total
- 51:49love bug. And there are semi gregarios of social species, so they imprint.
- 51:52They have, you know, a whole social hierarchy. They have averiballe
- 51:55communication skills like mine would literally lay on my pillow with me and I had
- 51:59them trade. Yeah, damn. Those are the ones that aren't T shirts
- 52:04who hippies wear. Yeah, you know, like these are more common,
- 52:08said, these are more They're not really common. Those are European species,
- 52:13but they're just so disgustingly sweet, Like it's literally a puppy dog with feathers,
- 52:17Like he laid on my pillow right here next to my head, and
- 52:22I mean, can you buy these with a falconer's license? Yes, So
- 52:27you have to be a minimum of general falconer. Means that you have to
- 52:30do falcony for two years as an apprentice, then it approved to become a
- 52:32general falconer, then you can buy it. Because this is all super heavily
- 52:36regulated by state federal governments with the state right like yeah, and and county
- 52:40too. Now for la FC. So I have county permits, I have
- 52:44city permits, I have state permits, I have federal permits. And it
- 52:50is an apprentice hard or how do you go about? So to be apprentice?
- 52:52Basically? First question I always ask somebody do you have a wife?
- 52:55Yes or no? Answer is no. I was like, all right,
- 52:58cool, because again, like these things, a man as much as a
- 53:01child does, right, because you come home at the end of the day.
- 53:05You work all day, right, you work your you know, your
- 53:07eight hour day, and you got another hour drive each way, right,
- 53:08so you're ten hours in your day dinner, twelve thirteen hours in your day.
- 53:13Right, You're gonna sleep eight hours on top of that, So you
- 53:16only get a couple hours a day to interact with these animals. So you
- 53:19have to be dedicated and focused to it because that they need that attention.
- 53:23So no, I heard, I heard how like a cat. No I
- 53:27heard, I heard, I heard how calculated it was when you told me
- 53:30how much you need it, how much you need to give it to eat,
- 53:34to weigh this much so it flies at this weight on this day.
- 53:38That's like you fc mma shit, where like you're cutting way and you can't
- 53:42eat this and this is your diet because we've all trying to body weight.
- 53:45Well, we got we've all tried to fucking be a bodybuilder and that could
- 53:49counting. Is just hard to do it for just in a bulk that's all.
- 53:51Yeah, he's been bulking in life. I like how it comes into
- 53:57the conversation. Yeah, he's But no, that's very calculated obviously to know
- 54:01exactly it's all the birds. We have on a spreadsheet, all the weights,
- 54:07and we put little notes in there too, and we kind of figure
- 54:09out what they're supposed to be like. So at the end of the season,
- 54:12we're gonna let everybody woke up a little bit. We're gonna be doing
- 54:15a lot of you know, heavy intense training as far as like you know,
- 54:20trying to build up muscle mass, right, so we're gonna be doing
- 54:22stuff. We call him vertical. So we get a we got our you
- 54:23know, DGI drone. We go up a couple hundred feet. The bird
- 54:27just circles up as hard as he can to fly up to go grab the
- 54:30lure. So like because we never talked about that, so you know the
- 54:35pregame ritual. We see us on the pitch. We're swinging around the lower
- 54:37piece of phone with the posing team's crust on, right, So the birds
- 54:40are that's the prey. They're trying to hunt, catch and kill that when
- 54:44you see it, So that's why your your pop's the spinning thing and throws
- 54:47it. And it's basically a came a game of keep away at one hundred
- 54:52miles an hour, and he is he's really perfecting it. Like he doesn't
- 54:55he doesn't like to suit his own horn, but he was literally one of
- 54:59the best in the world, like you know, the Saudist and you know
- 55:01the guitar all the you know, five ten generation falcon Ors Middle East because
- 55:07like damn, like they know who we are and what we do is that
- 55:10where that originates from. I mean, Messpotonian is one of the theories behind
- 55:15it. So we got a Mongolian theory, we got messotonia. So it's
- 55:17all in that, you know that area, right, And it's and the
- 55:22falcons in the Middle East is such a huge status stumbul and it's a artificially
- 55:25inflated economy, right. So you know, let's say a bird I can
- 55:31buy for I'm not very high end here in the US, about twenty thousand
- 55:35dollars, seven eighth years sacre, all white or all black with like perfect
- 55:38tips. Let's say you know a falcon that looks like a seagull. I
- 55:44personally love it. My dad hates the idea of it. I really want
- 55:45one one day. Yeah, it looks like a seagull. Well that's a
- 55:50problem. So he absolutely hates the idea of it. But he So those
- 55:58guys about twenty thousand dollars here in the US, right, and you go
- 56:00over to Katar and you're looking at one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand
- 56:06for the same animal. But it's also raised in I could see what you
- 56:13see the argument, right, I don't I just see that that bird that
- 56:17the White Power ranger fucking came out right, yeah, like like yeah,
- 56:22it looks. Yeah, I agree with you. I think you eventually should
- 56:24get yourself on that one. Dude, that that that how much did you
- 56:28say that bird? It's about twenty grand in the US. That is pretty
- 56:31balling, dude, like that is it? Can you train that one to
- 56:36go around the stadium? That that bird's actually, in my opinion, is
- 56:38too big because you know it's a small stadium, right, I absolutely love
- 56:45it's really vertical tonight. It's not like the coliseum and it's just you know,
- 56:49super wide going out right, So you know, having the right sized
- 56:52bird for that venue to make it more visually stunning, to keep her inside
- 56:57the stadium. So all these like the perfect size, Sonny, the backup
- 57:00falcons a little bit smaller, flies a little bit smaller. So that's six
- 57:05hundred at gram range. It seems to be the perfect size for that stadium
- 57:08because you see Allie like she goes, you know, covers all four sides
- 57:13of the stadium. She's flying over everybody in the first and second levels,
- 57:16right, So that's really really cool. And I think a bigger falcon,
- 57:20you're gonna see him go more vertical at that point, and you're not gonna
- 57:22get as it's not going to be as visually impressive. Do the Saturday is
- 57:28over the in the Middle East? Do they use them for sport? Yeah,
- 57:30I've seen something like that. Right, it's and what's the sport like,
- 57:32I mean, I don't know what's So it's falconry like what we talk
- 57:36about. Like originally this is about hunting and you know kealing quarry, right,
- 57:40So you're instead of hunting with let's say our long runs, right,
- 57:44we're hunting with hawks and falcons. So they're going out, we'll go rent
- 57:47like a seven to forty seven. I'm sure they own it. They at
- 57:51the seven forty seven. They fly up to Pakistan and they're gonna hunt grouse
- 57:54over there, right, and they literally so you go look at the picture
- 57:58of them and they're sitting on top of the head rasts kind of how Tex
- 58:01was sitting in Sorry I got two hair socks. Bond was sitting in the
- 58:06front seat, right and just just chilling, hanging out there. And that's
- 58:08what they're doing. They all have their little hoods on, they're all tethered
- 58:12there and they're just hanging out and they're going to take off in land and
- 58:14go hunt and come back. So another big thing. They have a big
- 58:15competition every year where there's a bunch of different events, so it's like top
- 58:20speed horizontally, right. They have a lure flying competitions as well, so
- 58:23something like what my dad's really really good at. So you see when Allie,
- 58:27if you look at the footage, like I post a lot of like
- 58:29the slow moos stuff because I sit right there on training days, you'll see
- 58:31her extending her feet out trying to grab it, and she's within a foot
- 58:36of the lure. That that's perfection and she's able and it's really impressive that
- 58:40she's able to carry so much speed through that. And that's kind of like
- 58:44that timing, that consistency that my dad has that I'm still working on because
- 58:47I'm still not quite there because Allie has some tricks up her sleeves. So
- 58:52yes, I've been doing it for actively thirty years, right, there's still
- 58:55a little nuances, little tricks where I'm not as good like I'm you know,
- 59:00two three feet away she kind of half hearts put her feet out,
- 59:02but like we're trying to get it to where like six inches of his goal,
- 59:06we're just fully extended, stretching out trying to catch and kill her quarry
- 59:08and then just doing that game of keepway. And you can actually manipulate the
- 59:13flight of the bird too by how you pull that lure away. So if
- 59:15you want something more vertical, you pull it straight down. I want something
- 59:19more wide, I just take a set back, and it's really opening it
- 59:22up so we can We're constantly trying to figure out how to in real time,
- 59:25like have hercovered the entire stadium too, So it's like the north end.
- 59:30She gives a lot of love to the north end, the northeast side
- 59:32of it. That's just her thing. So how do we manipulate the flight
- 59:36pattern for her to cover the whole stadium? And you know the south end
- 59:39gets some love too. They got to get louder in the south. You
- 59:50know what's something funny me and him always say, because we're fucking households and
- 59:52we always think we're funny when it's flying around. We've always been like,
- 59:57man, one day, he's just going to pick a kid's eye, and
- 1:00:00we're always like, yo, that wouldn't be crazy if it was that angry
- 1:00:05bird that he said, like I was like the one that heats just mad
- 1:00:07at everything. Yeah, because I mean We don't know that. We don't
- 1:00:08know how like how the birds are. But one time, like what if
- 1:00:10I just go like this with like its favorite food, it has to be
- 1:00:15That's like, that's like thing with all that's why we train. It's like
- 1:00:17because that's something like Peter has done with falconers and other animal activist groups have
- 1:00:22done. Is they'll get like, you know, squab on a string.
- 1:00:25I get a pigeon swinging around and the bird's gonna come land down and grab
- 1:00:29it. And what they do is they'll grab the bird, take all the
- 1:00:31stuff off of them, let him eat up, and cut them loose.
- 1:00:34Like I've seen that. No, I shouldn't say I seen. I've heard
- 1:00:37that happen to other falconers. Wow, that's shady man. It's like,
- 1:00:40damn man, the birds are good. But that's that's their mindset. And
- 1:00:45like I you know, I mean, they have conviction. I can't fault
- 1:00:49them for that. Like they're going all out to do what they believe in.
- 1:00:52Right. That's unfortunately the way it is, Like we have different perspectives
- 1:00:54on it. I mean, they've got ham You've seen the videos when they'll
- 1:00:58go into like chicken places in there they gave themselves about and they don't stop,
- 1:01:02and he got turned on. He saw that one, right, Yeah,
- 1:01:07yeah, I hate to laugh, but I'm just like it's karma,
- 1:01:12like if I do stupid stuff or like I fall off a lot of building
- 1:01:15or something like that. Like I'm laughing at myself for being an idiot.
- 1:01:19You know the bird flew up in the tree, like that was my fault
- 1:01:21for being an idiot. And I laughed at myself now because now in captivity,
- 1:01:24like how you have these like like what's the life expectancy for something like
- 1:01:30this? Twenty twenty five years? For wow, they live a long time.
- 1:01:34Yeah, so that bird could live the living desert the zoo near me.
- 1:01:37They just had their oldest male hairstalk pass away at thirty eight years old.
- 1:01:43And what ended up killing them was the stress of putting him inside.
- 1:01:45We got Avian influenza, avian herpes. We have U it was not her
- 1:01:52say what I was like, they even have herpes. Yeah, it's not
- 1:01:57from the sheep, so I couldn't. So they put him inside and that's
- 1:02:01what in the stress and the stress of moving him from outside inside because right
- 1:02:05now in the in the desert, like covered in theo slices twenty four seven.
- 1:02:09Like all the birds have a fan directly on them to keep the air
- 1:02:13moving past them. So well, the mosquitos, the barcode mosquitos, we'll
- 1:02:19say, the bill mosquitoes. I'll show you a picture later. I was
- 1:02:25working on my truck the other day. I had over one hundred bites on
- 1:02:29my left leg. Damn, man, you must have some immunity. Man,
- 1:02:34No, I was kidding. It is all welted up, and it
- 1:02:36was like this, look, yeah, you have a lot of those.
- 1:02:38It's like, man, that's the immunity you're building up, man, because
- 1:02:43the just man, like you ever see like those I was watching a video
- 1:02:45on those what do you call those species of those tribes, bro, of
- 1:02:51people that are just on the but like like the different of the just under
- 1:02:55the radar, and like the governments don't funk with them. They just let
- 1:02:59them be, like the indigenous tribes and stuff like that with normal contact,
- 1:03:02like down like the Amazon. You're talking about that type of stuff. Yeah,
- 1:03:06there's a there's a grip. There's a grip of them all over the
- 1:03:07world. Bro, There's like a lot of people live under the radar,
- 1:03:09these tribes that they killed some guys. Yeah, they're trying to teach them
- 1:03:13Christianity and all the time. And these motherfuckers like they're out there like not
- 1:03:19with clothes and and everything, and you know, best believe they get a
- 1:03:22bit by exotic mosquitos with They're gonna survive. They're going to live longer than
- 1:03:25we are. You hear the like the human theory of evolution, right that,
- 1:03:31like these people are the ones that survive, like the apocalypse. And
- 1:03:36you know they see in the rise and fall of all these different times right
- 1:03:39and over the eons and millennias, Like these guys keep seeing it, so
- 1:03:44they see all these the airplanes are gods and stuff like this, and they're
- 1:03:46just depictions of all this crazy stuff. And the stuff has passed down through
- 1:03:50generation to generation through oral tradition. So and people are speculating that like you
- 1:03:55know, the world has ended, you know, many times over because humans
- 1:04:00we get to a certain point, we self destruct and then you know,
- 1:04:02rinse and repeat. Somebody starts some beef, they blow it up. You
- 1:04:05got to start all over again, like right now. It's fucking crazy.
- 1:04:13Dude, I don't even know. You don't want to get into that.
- 1:04:15I don't want to. I was like, I was like, do you
- 1:04:18want to go there? I'll go there with you for I was like for
- 1:04:21a second, I was like, I even feel like even for your podcast
- 1:04:24the Tamfoil Highpockets, I was like, you guys are going to stay away
- 1:04:27for two weeks and be like and then we can talk about it because it's
- 1:04:30just such a volatile temperature. But so you have six right now, right?
- 1:04:35Six six birds? Is that the cap really for what we need and
- 1:04:41give them the most time? Intention Yeah, that's kind of where we're happy
- 1:04:45with. Like we have our business stuff covered, we have redundancy, you
- 1:04:48know, we have all we have all these backup, like we've got our
- 1:04:50personal hawks and falcons, like, you know, we have all our bases
- 1:04:55covered and we feel good at that and anymore it would detract from the tension
- 1:04:58these ones are getting. So if I was able to like bring on another
- 1:05:01employee and I had other job opportunities, then I would talk about getting you
- 1:05:04know, another bird or two, that would be the absolute max? Is
- 1:05:10there like a bird that like you're like to say, certain falcons or guys
- 1:05:15are not supposed to have, Like let's just say, hey, bro,
- 1:05:16like how did you even get this? Like, have you ever like not
- 1:05:20saying shot them out of anything, but I'm saying, like, have you
- 1:05:23ever come across You're like, damn, but you're not even supposed to have
- 1:05:25this bird? What the hell? Yeah, there's all right, Like you
- 1:05:29know when you meet somebody who has the tiger. Yeah, yeah, there's
- 1:05:33there's this one species. It's a male Siberian gosshawk. Right, extremely extremely
- 1:05:44rare to get your hands on it because you're neither you're going out to like,
- 1:05:46you know, the very north of South Korea in the winter time,
- 1:05:49you might get lucky and seeing you there, you're going up north Siberia.
- 1:05:55Then you got like the logistics like importing all this stuff, like you're gonna
- 1:05:58spend you know, to inport. Let's say you go trap one right and
- 1:06:00try to import it. It's almost impossible. So something that Clinton did,
- 1:06:05I think it was ninety four where they banned the import of all, you
- 1:06:11know, exotic animals into the US, so tigers, lions, you know,
- 1:06:15the you know, so all she's a red knipe shaheen. So she
- 1:06:18was some of the last genetic bloodlines that came over here for that before that
- 1:06:23went into play. So if you look at like the and it's not and
- 1:06:27it was to protect the wildlife and not have it be exploited. But at
- 1:06:30the same time, what's happened is now we have lots of inner breeding and
- 1:06:32no one was really careful, especially with like the lions and tigers and stuff
- 1:06:36like that. Most of them are inbred and retarded. No I don't I
- 1:06:41know something. And it's like that they retarded, like mentally retarded. It's
- 1:06:44like you know, you know, like my cousins having kids or something like
- 1:06:47that. So I'm sure I have some family like that too. Arkansas did
- 1:06:53right, like on my mom's side and a joker round. It's like,
- 1:07:00thank god, I got my dad's lighted. Look like we go to the
- 1:07:02family union. I love my family and some of them are just like damn,
- 1:07:09so I don't look like you. So so you say falcons and you
- 1:07:13say hawks. I haven't met how you haven't mentioned the American animal, the
- 1:07:16eagle. That was that you bring that up? And I was like,
- 1:07:21I know, I lost the question in here. I was like, you
- 1:07:25can train eagles, so they're a semi gregarious species, so semi social,
- 1:07:30right, So you get weird social hierarchy in aggression, so you have to
- 1:07:33be absolutely perfect when it comes to dealing with eagles, and personally, I
- 1:07:39don't care for the American eagle as a falcony bird because if I'm doing something
- 1:07:42like that, I'm training to do what Natron tend to do, and that
- 1:07:45is to be hunt, catch and kill, right, that's what that animal
- 1:07:48is designed to do. And out of like the two major major ones we
- 1:07:51have or you know, the Golden eagle and the bald eagle, like the
- 1:07:55golden eagles of in my opinion of far superior hunter, you know far Man
- 1:08:00see Marka just got me thinking. I thought I thought the bald eagle was
- 1:08:03like the most fucking gang strog. Right, they're they're all around the same
- 1:08:09size. I mean you look at them, they're like the size of Toddler.
- 1:08:11Yeah, like that's nine pounds. Damn that's yeah, wast and what
- 1:08:17yeah like one point three pounds? Yeah, now hand on a nine pounds
- 1:08:19word, dude, rip your face off. Yeah, they're their talons are
- 1:08:24bigger than my fingers, like the black parts that stick out like literally their
- 1:08:27knives like this long. I'm like, I have the proper amount of holes
- 1:08:30in my face like I'm good, like I have a buddy. He's a
- 1:08:32he's an old man. He's a good old boy right up in Montana.
- 1:08:35Made a mistake one day and is his golden eagle. Big old, nasty
- 1:08:41female grabbed him in the face, bull like grabs them and within a quarter
- 1:08:45second like pulled the skin off the muscle. So this whole face, you
- 1:08:48know, for lack of this looked like he had like a stroke, like
- 1:08:50his face just kind of like went limp over on the side because it pulled
- 1:08:54all the muscle off, and it was just it was just a quick hit,
- 1:08:57right, nothing crazy. He wasn't trying to hurt them or anything like
- 1:08:59that. He's doing something. They were hunting deer. He got in there,
- 1:09:02he went to dispatch the deer. Something happened. He got grabbed the
- 1:09:04face. Again. This is a good old boy, right, So what
- 1:09:06does he do. He doesn't freak out anything, gets his bird, throws
- 1:09:10on the back of the truck on the carcass, drives the truck back into
- 1:09:13the barn. But she her free chamber is a freaking you know, big
- 1:09:15old like red barn. Right, So then he goes takes care of all
- 1:09:19his other animals, goes to the ear forgets to check in and mind you
- 1:09:23this, his face has you know, four massive holes in it right now
- 1:09:26and it's like grouping. And he sits there for like six hours before he
- 1:09:29goes up and asks the lady when he's gonna get called in. Wow.
- 1:09:32So I'm like, no, no, no eagles for me when I'm old,
- 1:09:35ugly and retired. Maybe so okay. So that sounds yeah, bro,
- 1:09:41that sounds like a way more aggressive bird. Oh yeah, terrified.
- 1:09:44No, No, I don't. I don't think it's more aggressive. It's
- 1:09:45just the power. It's like I tell you you love cats. But if
- 1:09:47that cap was bigger than big, I think, yeah, that little that
- 1:09:51little scratchy like the one the one I got it home, like I I
- 1:09:55would just be like, I'd be terrified if he was like bigger than me.
- 1:09:58Dogs would be huge and they don't do that. You. There are
- 1:10:00some dogs that could technically kill you was super nice, like great hounds and
- 1:10:03stuff. I don't know. I don't know cats. I don't really with
- 1:10:08cats. I think they'll eat you alive. They will, it's been proven,
- 1:10:12not like they will eat your life. But like if you like,
- 1:10:15if you're dead. They would eat on your they would eat your corpse of
- 1:10:17sustain themselves. They much they like you. They're the first ones to like
- 1:10:23to do it. Like a dog will literally starve itself and be like almost
- 1:10:27dying and will not do it and see the cat eat you and just be
- 1:10:30like, I ain't stupid that low like all right, so who's the smarter
- 1:10:33one of the two. Then at that point the cat smarter. It's the
- 1:10:36smarter what it's loyalty? Do your kid? But he said your kid,
- 1:10:42he said the smarter one, your kid, your dad dies? Are you
- 1:10:45eating them? He's smarter? So you survive. But the donor party,
- 1:10:48Donner party, like they're they're eating each other like that they don't know that
- 1:10:54person. It's a bit like you're moving in a big old caravan like you
- 1:10:59know each other, like if we're you know, cruising down the street,
- 1:11:01like but we're gennna die if we don't need each other. I'm sorry,
- 1:11:04I eat your dog. I know you like, am I eat something that
- 1:11:08I like? Toothpicks? There's nothing there? Yeah, that's true, don't
- 1:11:13you. Yeah? On the other hand, and you, oh yeah,
- 1:11:16I would probably more like that, be like, look, dude, just
- 1:11:18let me die so you guys can live. He is like the marbling and
- 1:11:21everything like that will be nice and tender, like it's like a brisket.
- 1:11:26Yeah, bro, yeah, bro, be all yeah, it's all tough.
- 1:11:30Dude. You don't have any meat on you. Union you could actually
- 1:11:31benefit from eating me. You'd get normal sized and then you look like him.
- 1:11:38I gotta ask you about another bird. What about vultures. Vultures are
- 1:11:43super cool. So those are these like black ones with the bald one long
- 1:11:47hagg like when you see they, right, that's like the turkey vulture.
- 1:11:51Right, So vultures are actually super sweet. One of the like you can
- 1:11:57go get like a haggard older one out of the wild and they tamed down
- 1:12:01really really nicely and it was really cool and unfortunately got rejected. But my
- 1:12:06dad did a white paper about the O factory sensitivity and bomb detection and how
- 1:12:14it was exponentially better than dogs, and that got rejected. That sounds pretty
- 1:12:18it was. There was a dumb study somebody did was a Pavlonian response.
- 1:12:24So they what they did originally is they went through they looked at the total
- 1:12:27length like the O factory, like all the little curves and everything that goes
- 1:12:29on, and all the sensors there right, and all the nerves stick in
- 1:12:31the smell. So and then this group of scientists, I won't put that
- 1:12:36an air quotes because it's a garbage study, put little receptors in the brain
- 1:12:43for you know, salivation, right, and then so the bird would smell
- 1:12:46something and it would salivate. So there's association that was there, right,
- 1:12:51But it's really really flawed because it doesn't because they were doing it, and
- 1:12:55you really can't parse out the parts per billion if you look at like the
- 1:12:58the when they're circling like a carcas because they're not eating like we think they
- 1:13:02are, even rotten meat and old stuff like that. No, it's fresh
- 1:13:04kills, like this is fresh road kill stuff like that. And they're kind
- 1:13:08of like the Hoover vacuum of the of the environment, like they clean everything.
- 1:13:13The acid in their stomach it devours anything like bones and everything. That's
- 1:13:16crazy how much. That's why that's why like throughout movies and not said like
- 1:13:20they've always put them by the highway because these fools know they're like, hey,
- 1:13:24like there's this big machine that runs over things sometimes. Yeah, like
- 1:13:27you see like the redtaels, like the smart birds of Prey will do that,
- 1:13:30like in the movies, they'll do that because it's like a natural barrier.
- 1:13:33So in real life you see the redtails when you're driving down Let's say
- 1:13:36there's one right at the ninety one four h five. I think it's right
- 1:13:41there on the intersection. There's been for years. There's just one single metalistic,
- 1:13:45dark faced female that I always see there and she's looking literally five ten
- 1:13:49miles down the road for any sort of incursion to go investigate, to go
- 1:13:53hunt, because what's a natural break in the in the environment, so they
- 1:13:58can you exploit that. You know where I've seen them and they fly around
- 1:14:02because it's like near where I stayed. We read Abrock Concert Conservation uh in
- 1:14:06Nevada. You see you run into them like when you start getting out of
- 1:14:11like the city right there where the hotel's at and the and you start heading
- 1:14:14towards the park. You'll see him early in the morning and they're just like
- 1:14:16they know where the roads are at bro And it's like I remember one of
- 1:14:19the the people that tell you that, one of the hosts, they'll tell
- 1:14:21you they're like, yeah, it's you have a gree view and you can
- 1:14:24just check it out. I remember waking up the one. I was like,
- 1:14:26that's too big to be I mean, too big to be a crow?
- 1:14:29And motherfucker, what's the vulture just flying around like like a Western movie?
- 1:14:33Bro? Like this is crazy because it's it's I don't even think.
- 1:14:35I feel like the desert is very much like the ocean and certain extent to
- 1:14:39certain extents, bro, because we can say it's like, yeah, we've
- 1:14:42driven to every part of the desert, but like, have you ever been
- 1:14:45there all year round to really know how to get down? Is you know
- 1:14:46what I mean? Like there's a lot of things you could be like,
- 1:14:48yeah, there's that animal there, bro, but like have you been there
- 1:14:50to see the animal that barely rarely comes out? There's probably some shit out
- 1:14:54there that we don't even know about. What about the animals that are bone
- 1:14:57of time? Right? We discovered new animals all the time, Like there
- 1:15:00was the monkey that was discovered like six months ago as the only one.
- 1:15:04So there's the god. I forget Joe roganhe him on his show, but
- 1:15:11he's a naturalist and discovered what was thought it was an extinct tortoise from uh
- 1:15:16that when I when it extinct over one hundred years ago. But yeah,
- 1:15:20there's there's a bunch of stuff, like the desert is very much alive,
- 1:15:25like we look at it and were our eyes are ignorant. But it's a
- 1:15:28whole thriving ecosystem. And that's something I don't know if you saw my Instagram
- 1:15:32story, Like I was driving in town and it looks like fog. That's
- 1:15:35all the sand and everything. So when Hurricane Hillary came through, we ripped
- 1:15:41off a bunch of the top soil in my area. So every day there's
- 1:15:45it looks like there's a sandstorm now. So I don't know if how long
- 1:15:47it's gonna take for the desert to actually recover from that. Can you can
- 1:15:53you help me explain this to him? No? How Yeah, help me
- 1:15:56with this one. I was like, you know why, because you know
- 1:16:00how we said how we haven't but we're still finding species of animals. He
- 1:16:05still thinks there's a megalodon in the ocean. There is. He's still the
- 1:16:11big one. I'm not talking a bigger like why he's talking Yeah, Meg,
- 1:16:16that's actually that's funny. That reminds me that the first book I ever
- 1:16:19read was named Meg. That was like third grade, my first like real
- 1:16:23novel. I think that's the last novel I read too. After that,
- 1:16:25I learned Cliff does. Anyways, it's it's it's totally feasible. I mean,
- 1:16:30no, I thought you were gonna help me. No, no,
- 1:16:31all right, all right, me let me say this. Have we checked
- 1:16:35every square inch of that ocean? All right? So how can we say
- 1:16:40definitively that this isn't possible? Because the reason okay, here's why, because
- 1:16:43you guys keep saying it's got to be at the bottom of the ocean.
- 1:16:45No, technically, I mean, well, that's that's the theory is like
- 1:16:48that that came from the book though, like literally that that was a really
- 1:16:53then if it lives at the top of the ocean, that means it's got
- 1:16:55to eat enough to survive. And what is it eating. It would be
- 1:17:00eating eating larger mammals. It could be eating squid, it could be eating
- 1:17:02all right, So how far down does the sperm whell dive? What does
- 1:17:06it what does it's like three thousand feet five thousand feet that it's going down
- 1:17:10to, right, and it's eating giant squid? You know, the only
- 1:17:13giant squid we've ever seen is from what they've killed. They can dive down
- 1:17:19to seven feet. And then also to exabers, think about this, like
- 1:17:26what if it's somewhere where the where this motherfucker knows people can't go, Like
- 1:17:30what if it's swimming around the ice wall? Right, Like, what if
- 1:17:32it's swimming around the ice wall, it's not it's gonna go wherever the food
- 1:17:35is. If it's if it's real, it's gonna be eating you know,
- 1:17:39something huge like that. Like there's a lot of species like we know absolutely
- 1:17:43nothing about in the depths of the ocean. So I can't say definitively be
- 1:17:46on a shadow of a doubt that it's not real. All right, So
- 1:17:49I think it's improbable. Yes, right, we're in that world. So
- 1:17:53I know you're into this stuff kind of because you can tell me no,
- 1:17:57Bigfoot or Magla Doon, which ones which one has a bigger chance of it
- 1:18:00being real? If you had a pig yo megg Bigfoot? All right,
- 1:18:04Wow, let's think about it. Where's big Northwest? No, the Sasquatch.
- 1:18:12I'm talking to anyonere in the world I can talking too. Whatever they
- 1:18:14call Bigfoot sasquatqua there's sasquat could be dimensional. I think I think it's just
- 1:18:25like one of my cousins with the really harry back walking around with bro I
- 1:18:28got a cashmir switter on your round, all right, I'm telling you it's
- 1:18:31one of the back here is like looking from the back, I look at
- 1:18:34act like sand Squash's little sister. So you listen, Rogan, do you
- 1:18:38go down the rabbit hole conspiracy rabbit hole a little bit? I mean it's
- 1:18:42worth entertaining because now, like everybody joke's around that uh what's his face?
- 1:18:47I can't believe the crazy conspiracy. Alex Joan, thank you, But like
- 1:18:54people are putting jars up, and Alex Jones is right, jars like dudes
- 1:18:59becoming more more right as time goes on. I don't think there's lizard people.
- 1:19:02But because he says it, he says it dumb, like when he
- 1:19:04says the water's turning the frogs gay. That sounds crazy. But technically,
- 1:19:09if the water is making the water's making us a lot more feminine because it
- 1:19:13has hormones in it, that it's not on purpose, or we think it's
- 1:19:15not on purpose. No, I honestly think I'd rather attribute to ignorance versus
- 1:19:20malice. Yeah, we don't know. It's yeah, so it's along.
- 1:19:25We didn't know teflon was so bad for us. It was just a great
- 1:19:27product the moment, Like, yell, nothing sticks yea forever. Plastic microplastics
- 1:19:30like those are all real stuff, and they do and they are indoc disruptors,
- 1:19:33Like that's a that's a very real, well documented thing that we're trying
- 1:19:36to grapple with now. And you know, this is all in the last
- 1:19:41generation, generation and a half, Like, we have no idea how this
- 1:19:44is going to affect us. We don't really know why. There's theories why
- 1:19:46we're you know, the stosterone is dropping in men generation over generation, and
- 1:19:50they do think it's because the endocan disruptors inside the microplastics. So there's actually
- 1:19:56some really cool studies that people have done in the sphere. Is getting smaller
- 1:20:01exactly. Yeah, you gotta get TRT, you gotta get straight up get
- 1:20:06like barts. Yeah no, that's I mean, if we're ingesting all this,
- 1:20:13if we're like ingesting all this microplastic right quote unquote, and you better
- 1:20:16start adjusting some TRT. Bro. I'm just saying, gotta balance it out.
- 1:20:20You get some trend going in there. Yeah, bro, you know
- 1:20:24saying straight up, bro, like I look like Ronnie Coleman. I mean
- 1:20:29I kind of I would be cool with like half an neck, you know,
- 1:20:31like if if a man coming up with that body. But like I
- 1:20:33don't know, I just I feel like you just I just seed like ten
- 1:20:36minutes tass Rogan be like, dude, what do you take every day?
- 1:20:39He tells you. But there he probably died and everything else. He probably
- 1:20:45has that ship that like, he probably has a little experimental medicinal jar where
- 1:20:48it's just like my friend he's a scientist. Heard the Wolverine protocol. I
- 1:20:54think it's like a B one fifty six or something like that. So we're
- 1:20:57seeing a lot of look it up, look it up really quick Wolvering protocol.
- 1:21:01So you're able to take these peptides that you know, affect there are
- 1:21:05hormones in different ways that helps it. So that's like the one that helps
- 1:21:09with like muscle recovery stuff like that. What Wolverine protocol. I think it's
- 1:21:14it's like, ok, can we can we bust out bond? Yeah?
- 1:21:18B uh b PC Okay yeah, And that's what do you the Wolverine protocol,
- 1:21:28so it's it's to help with muscle recovery and stuff like that. So
- 1:21:30there's stuff like you can take like that that's you know, perfectly legal.
- 1:21:34Doesn't have any long residuals. Like you see condum grader like he looks like
- 1:21:39freaking Dumbo now right with his ears and that's like that's HGH type of stuff.
- 1:21:43So he went out, he pulled himself out of like the testing pool
- 1:21:45and you know heavy hgg HGH and some other stuff as well too, because
- 1:21:50when you take that stuff, you have to worry about, you know,
- 1:21:53the negative effects of it. It goes in pick all the people. You'll
- 1:21:57lose weight, but your stomach is paralyzed over dude, like the metcalf or
- 1:22:01whatever they call it stuff now that bees medication. Yeah, oh I can't,
- 1:22:06Like you know, I called the doctor and they told me it's like,
- 1:22:10yeah, we can give it to you just to see what's up.
- 1:22:13And I was like, if you haven't even done a physical on me,
- 1:22:14They're just like they GE's over there. The bank out of all that you
- 1:22:17get in all the referrals and stuff like that, Like I feel like this
- 1:22:20is like the Viking in two point zero type of stuff going on. Now
- 1:22:24that they're just pushing everything the pharmaceuticals because a lot of the medical schools are
- 1:22:27paid by pharmaceuticals and it's supplemented. You're still pending two hundred two and fifty
- 1:22:30thousand dollars go to medical school, but you're also it's also being subsidized well
- 1:22:34too, by these pharmaceuticals. Like, you know, it's sickcare like everybody,
- 1:22:39you know, it's sick care, not healthcare. So, you know,
- 1:22:42how can we get your nutrition better? How can we get the micronutrients
- 1:22:45gees? How do we get fixed your you know, your deficiencies on.
- 1:22:47Let's look at your bloodwork. Let's say you have a vitamin E deficiencies.
- 1:22:53Okay, like, how can we upregulate the genes that we need to?
- 1:22:57Right? All right, let's say you have a lower VO two. Let's
- 1:23:00let's get some you known, awesome but or something like that. So nitros
- 1:23:04ouside, some sort of supplement like that beet juice doesn't really work. But
- 1:23:10there's so many different things that we can do from a you know, more
- 1:23:13holistic point before we jump trait to medication. Don't get me wrong, Like
- 1:23:15I like drugs. Drugs are good, right, I mean they literally keep
- 1:23:19us alive, Like I have medication that I'd be in a horrible place without
- 1:23:23it, right, and I appreciate it, but still looking at what can
- 1:23:26I do naturally? How can I look at this stuff? And then I'm
- 1:23:28like, all right, when we started talking to my endocrinologists about peptides and
- 1:23:31stuff like this, how do I make, you know, bring myself up?
- 1:23:34Because I got like really really safe, like they we thought, like
- 1:23:36a couple years ago, I was gonna die straight up, like I was
- 1:23:39falling over myself. I couldn't treat this is like twenty twenty twenty twenty one.
- 1:23:43I was literally falling over myself when we couldn't fire out what was going
- 1:23:45on. And we got the whole things for it out eventually, but it
- 1:23:48was like this really stressful, scared time and it wasn't not for modern medicine,
- 1:23:51I don't know what would happen a lot of things. So straight up,
- 1:23:55it's that's the same reason why like I like, I'm like I'll get
- 1:23:59both eyes at the corner, bro Like I have a holistic doctor and then
- 1:24:01I have a western medicine doctor. Because I'm not gonna trust my holistic doctor
- 1:24:05with surgery, you know what I mean, no offense, but it's just
- 1:24:08like, see, but if I got to get a tumor removed, I'm
- 1:24:11just gonna go to Good Samaritan Hospital here and be like listen, bro anesthesia,
- 1:24:15this bed and just nurse and all this shit. I need all this
- 1:24:18right now. This whole eating to American shit is not gonna help me right
- 1:24:20now. More neutrologist someone like to teach you how to eat. Neither of
- 1:24:26those people learn how to learn anything about like the diet, Like the doctor
- 1:24:30just learned basics, and your holistic doctor like you know your diet, Like
- 1:24:32what is your diet? Yeah, So now let's say, let's let's talk
- 1:24:35about the cancer stuff. Right, So, the three D structure of the
- 1:24:39of the mitochondria is supposed to be a deficient and it's supposed to be a
- 1:24:43really high in sugar. So you can use neither sugar or you can use
- 1:24:45fat for energy in your system. Right and basically, if you go into
- 1:24:50you know, sugar dest fit and you get into I just forgot the word.
- 1:24:55I'm struggling this morning. I know you're not. We didn't even like
- 1:24:57blaze it that much because we're like we want to like I know, I
- 1:25:00was like we we held back because we're like we just like obviously because the
- 1:25:02bond over there. And also do if I take one hit like I'm asleep,
- 1:25:05it could be Sativa in like five minutes. I'm oh for sure,
- 1:25:09Like I know, if if it would have been regular, regular protocol,
- 1:25:11you would have for sure been feeling it. You would have been Tony Hawk
- 1:25:14like, which is like which is like a term we have here because we
- 1:25:16interviewed Tony Hawk and beat the Doctor Greentam show, and he left Blitz like
- 1:25:21he told us He's like, yo, you guys made me stop at McDonald's
- 1:25:25the moment I left here like cause yeah, like he hate some good Could
- 1:25:30you show hold on? I want to see show the bird. I want
- 1:25:32to know where he's going with this. Are you going with sugar promotes cancer?
- 1:25:38Right? No, it does not necessarily promote Like your bike can either
- 1:25:41use sugar or can use fats as an energy source on it. Right,
- 1:25:45So you know the idea is that I'm stalling because I'm trying to think of
- 1:25:48the word. I forgot what it is. Come I help me out here,
- 1:25:51what's the word keto? Thank you? So when you go to an
- 1:25:56actual katosis, like you're using fat, like you can at the like the
- 1:26:00urine strips and then you can actually see your keytones level. Right, it
- 1:26:03takes a lot what it takes a while to get to keto. You're talking
- 1:26:05about like a two to three day fast for it, and you're talking if
- 1:26:09you eat because protein can get broken down and carbohydrates no problem too, so
- 1:26:12if you have too much protein on it. Like there's a whole bunch of
- 1:26:14things. But another interesting study, like this guy was citing people that we're
- 1:26:18doing going through like chemo, and he puts, you know, half of
- 1:26:21them into katosis the other half on their normal diets. And there's a lot
- 1:26:28of really good benefits that we saw last nausea, less pain, fast recovery
- 1:26:31on being in katosis. That's all that information. All that bread shit you
- 1:26:35eat that close and shit, it's not good for your body, especially if
- 1:26:40you're literally going through cancer. I'm sure bodies like I don't deal with that
- 1:26:42right well, be thinking that like, oh man, I just won't eat
- 1:26:44for the day, like you're notice, like it takes two to three days
- 1:26:46for your body to start eating everything that you're fat ass stored up in there.
- 1:26:49Yeah, I'm just like no, I'll tell you straight up, but
- 1:26:51like your stomach is just gonna hurt for like the first day and a half.
- 1:26:55That's because all that fucking shit you put in there is coming out,
- 1:26:57and then the other day and a half is for like your body, Like,
- 1:27:00well, time to start storing this hamburger from like, time to start
- 1:27:03burning this burger from like nineteen ninety four that we stored here thinking because you're
- 1:27:06fat, to stop eating. And here's here's a fun fact too. So
- 1:27:10if you're let's say that you're obese, right, and you're you're a heavy
- 1:27:13smoker, and you start losing weight, like, let's say you completely quit
- 1:27:15smoking, right, Let's say you're losing weight, you're getting healthy, you're
- 1:27:19not smoking anymore, You're still gonna piss hot for because it's stored up in
- 1:27:24stors when you're fat. Like, that's gonna make better. That's why we
- 1:27:27use that, right, And then he ends up eating it, which is
- 1:27:30even worse because yeah, if you eat it, it sticks to your patty
- 1:27:33cell. It's literally you're eating it. Oh I already I already know I
- 1:27:36know you're I know you're pissing hot when you die. No Jesus is gonna
- 1:27:40give you a drug test and you're goings hot. Dude. If I if
- 1:27:44I carry around all these fucking capsules, bro, So it's like, and
- 1:27:47I know I'm ingesting this this amount of oil just because it takes a high
- 1:27:50caliber for me to get that high. So it's like I know for a
- 1:27:55fact, bro, Like there's no way in hell. Like they're like they're
- 1:27:57if somebody were to be like, hey, there's a drug test coming up,
- 1:28:00I'd be like, well, I'm gonna just tell you right now.
- 1:28:01I don't know, like like like my main thing is like I don't know
- 1:28:04what to tell you. I'm gonna be pissing hot. Oh damn, this
- 1:28:09is legit right here, Yo, this is the full Oh yeah, there
- 1:28:14were no sudden noises. OK, We're good. I thought he was coming
- 1:28:19from me, Dude. I was scared, you see me, just back
- 1:28:24up, bro. I was like, no, I already have my encounters
- 1:28:26with you. I have insurance. We're good. See, we're good,
- 1:28:29all right? Can you give me citizenship? Winning eleven? Dude, you
- 1:28:33need to worry about finding him finding a bird that can fly you over the
- 1:28:36border. Like, for real, bro, you need to find get yourself
- 1:28:44a bird that can fly over the border for sure for you dog. How
- 1:28:46much is it weigh? Uh, he's about where were you five five sixty
- 1:28:54five this morning? Sixty five gns this morning? One point to three pounds
- 1:29:00roughly, it looks it looks like it weighs more than do they have the
- 1:29:04ability to do this with their eyebrows? Because sometimes I feel like a bird
- 1:29:08is like mad dogging you, like like you know, that's the resting hawk,
- 1:29:12face straight up, like let me let me turn them around so we
- 1:29:15get him on the camera. If you can zoom in on with that camera
- 1:29:18right there, that one all right, so you can see it. So
- 1:29:20they have this brow over their eyeballs, right, and this is to protect
- 1:29:25them, uh, to protect their eyes. So's so yes, it's like
- 1:29:30a sunshade like a having your hat on or something like that. Right,
- 1:29:32that's part of it. But also when he's on his quarry, think about
- 1:29:35it, let's say your mouse, like you don't want to get eat him,
- 1:29:36You're gonna be cat, you know, kicking, scratching, clawing to
- 1:29:40get away. So he's so he's using that to protect his eyeballs. The
- 1:29:44other cool thing how he protects his eyeballs. Since we're going back to doing
- 1:29:46full circle, back to the bird because actually one of the first things that
- 1:29:49said, I wanted to talk about his eyeballs because I thought that that's like
- 1:29:51the coolest part to me. If you look at his eyeballs when I touch
- 1:29:57this, you're like the I've never seen that done. Like actually, without
- 1:30:00the mask, you can actually touch the bird. That's wild. He's like
- 1:30:03my puppy dog with feathers, like I can literally doesn't like it. He'll
- 1:30:06tolerate it like a moody teenager. So I think I'll just like hold him
- 1:30:12right here. But so they have what's called nicktame membering. So we have
- 1:30:17our two eyelids right and you know how we get the sleepies in the morning
- 1:30:20right here in the corner of it. So that's supposed to be like the
- 1:30:24part of our nicktame member and the remnants of it. Because there was I
- 1:30:27believe, seven different homos erective species that were on the earth at the same
- 1:30:31time. So if you go like go look at like Norwegian DNA, it's
- 1:30:35like three percent Neanderthal nature rature just took a shit. Shit happens. I
- 1:30:45got dad jokes for days. Do you have kids, but I'll got dad
- 1:30:47jokes. So the eyeballs, let's go to the eyeballs. I want to
- 1:30:49know what's because I want to know, all right, So they got that
- 1:30:53Nicktame membering. So this is milky white film protect their eyeballs when they're close
- 1:30:56on it. So if you look really close to his face, you'll actually
- 1:30:59see it look like a whiskers right there. Yeah, yeah, it looks
- 1:31:03like soft like yeah, like almost like eye, the eyelash version for a
- 1:31:08bird. Yeah. And so they're touched and then they'll use that to cover
- 1:31:13their eyes. And it's the milky white films. All predators have that,
- 1:31:15you know, humans, we have the remnants of ours. We have you
- 1:31:17know, dogs, cats, alligators, sharks like you ever see sharks in
- 1:31:23the blink and you can see their eye. Still, that's a Nicktame member
- 1:31:26And it's all the same thing. So the other thing, these guys have
- 1:31:29binocular vision too, so their eyes are fixated straight forward. So I want
- 1:31:31to turn and see you after my whole head like this, birds, birds
- 1:31:36like Kim when he's doing this whole thing right now, and he's like mad
- 1:31:39dog and everybody right now, he's just like analyzing the rooms. Could go
- 1:31:43there, I can go there. Look when you look at my finger,
- 1:31:45well you just did in like literally two milliseconds. You looked at my finger.
- 1:31:47He looked all the way around the room. He came back. You
- 1:31:49got to feel the depth. So when he's bobbing his head moving around,
- 1:31:51he's getting a field to death because his eyeballs actually don't move. So one
- 1:31:56eyeball is bigger and hegger than his whole brain. And with that said,
- 1:31:58like the muscles can't move eyeballs around, So there he has binocular fission fix
- 1:32:01straightforward. So if he wants to figure out what's going on, he's doing
- 1:32:04this thing right. So you'll see Alie like uh, like the pregame plight.
- 1:32:09She does like she'll do a little poop and then she'll bober ahead a
- 1:32:12couple of times and then go Now, do these do these birds like I
- 1:32:17know they've been doing it for like a long ast time, but you know
- 1:32:19some like Mexican Mexican foods have been fighting roosters for a long time. Do
- 1:32:25these birds get down like that? Is that like a natural trade in birds?
- 1:32:28Like or do you have to train a bird to get down with each
- 1:32:30other like that? No, it's it's all about natural resources. So when
- 1:32:32we talk about like cock fighting, yeah, that's their natural instinct that they're
- 1:32:38that they're exploiting for that sport. And like the razor stuff they add on
- 1:32:42to that, you know later on for that's forty purpose, But the initial
- 1:32:45behavior is all built into them, so there's no real training for that something
- 1:32:50like in that's it's like a hound or like a lab. Like you've seen
- 1:32:54a lab. You can throw a ball out a laborator and come brings it
- 1:32:58right back to You can throw chiuaala. I don't know what the fuck to
- 1:33:00do with the throwing the chuahua or you throwing the balls, all right,
- 1:33:04I prefer the former over the ladder. Yeah, there is in them.
- 1:33:09It's it's like basket hounds, aren't they like super good at like receiving things
- 1:33:13when you shoot. That's so there's the genetic ex predisposition to it, all
- 1:33:19right, And like what they what they thrive at, what they go to,
- 1:33:23Like some guys are really working with their hands. Other guys are just
- 1:33:26you know, considering the computer. It's what you know we're wired towards and
- 1:33:30then we build on top of that and like three years of selective breeding and
- 1:33:33you can get these really cool personalities and trace out of them. Have you
- 1:33:36ever have you ever been bit by him? If I bleed, it's usually
- 1:33:40my own stupidity and it's their town. Sound like the rattlesnake church guys.
- 1:33:44It's like if the snake bites me, it's like I'm an idiot, like
- 1:33:47straight up, like it's me making a failure. It's usually around food.
- 1:33:50Right, So let's say, uh, this happened to me last week.
- 1:33:54I was an idiot. I was in a rush and I just and he's
- 1:33:57out in his little weather and air and I toss some food right right,
- 1:34:00So I tossed the food he missed. He can't see. It's underneath the
- 1:34:02purse. I go pick it up and my hands in the way, and
- 1:34:04he grabs it when he sees it, and I cast I hollered and I
- 1:34:10screamed bloody murder, and I wanted to strangle my bird. But it was
- 1:34:14me be an idiot. I was lazy. Yeah, I was in a
- 1:34:15rush. I had to get going, So it's like, all right,
- 1:34:17let me just throw food at him and how long did that? Like,
- 1:34:19how bad was it cut? Well, it's not so much of the cut
- 1:34:24on it. It's actually like these pin pricks. So you got the talons
- 1:34:27and they're trimmed right now. I don't know if you can able to see
- 1:34:30that, but like it's still really sharp. It looks really sharp and that
- 1:34:32will go down to the bone. Damn, bro, that's like dential tools.
- 1:34:40You said there is there any genetic breading or how you guys read these
- 1:34:45specific but you just said we do that with dogs. I will try to
- 1:34:46make smaller obviously make the exotic. Yeah, the hybrids, like we talked
- 1:34:50about the white was the seven eighth jeersacre, So seven eighth of it's a
- 1:34:55sacred falcon and one eighth of it's a jeer falcon, and through selective reading
- 1:34:59they got that coloration. So they do that. But at the end of
- 1:35:01the day, we still want them to be as wild as possible because that's
- 1:35:04what's going to make a good hunting bird. And if a bird can't hunt,
- 1:35:08then it's a trash bird, like atuaua is a is I call a
- 1:35:12trash dog, you know, not because it's smaller Q or anything like that.
- 1:35:15Well it's not, but it was meant to do. Yeah, that's
- 1:35:19like, like that's why I love like German shepherds. I love Melanois,
- 1:35:23I love Rowdy's, Like those are some of my favorite breathing because there at
- 1:35:25the end of the day, they're all working dogs, and you know,
- 1:35:29I can use them to a protect myself and I take them on hunting.
- 1:35:30So I will take like my bird out and him and my older dog actually
- 1:35:33go out and we hunt together. Wow, that's so dope. What kind
- 1:35:36of dog do you have? So I got three melon was so you know
- 1:35:41German shepherd on that right, amazing dog. Never get one, all right,
- 1:35:45straight up. So people say, like a Boutiquita's and shit like two
- 1:35:49all right, akita, let's put that on the intensity scale of a six.
- 1:35:53Oh damn all right, and I let's get a working line melanoa and
- 1:35:58they're terrifying. Damn. That's wow. I never even heard of that.
- 1:36:01I'm gonna look them up right now. But that's literally it's a smaller,
- 1:36:04healthier German shepherd on meth. So the militaries are all switching over to it
- 1:36:09because it's easier to move around, Like the fifty five pound females. You
- 1:36:12literally throw it over your shoulder like there's they call them fur missiles, like
- 1:36:15people deploy and have them attached their back and stuff like that, and they
- 1:36:18parachuting with them. Special forces love them. I never thought i'd say yes.
- 1:36:24And John Wick the three I think it was with Holly Berry, right,
- 1:36:27she had she had two melonwaws and because of that, like everybody in
- 1:36:29the community, we saw that. And we're just all grown because we're gonna
- 1:36:31see a bunch of rescues full of them. So two of the four,
- 1:36:34two of the three melonwas I have are actually rescue projects. Oh wow.
- 1:36:40So and I'm working and so I rehab them. And you know, I
- 1:36:43tried taking one dog at a time, and I got two dogs that I
- 1:36:46didn't expect to have, and I train them and I rehome them. So
- 1:36:50it's people get them because they look like cute little German shepherds, right,
- 1:36:54and they don't realize how intense they are. So these guys, like,
- 1:36:57have they ever brought brought something to you like where you're like this will brought
- 1:36:59up. I don't sneak back to me like I've yet. I've yet to
- 1:37:02deal with the rattlesnank. So these guys when we were out hunting with them,
- 1:37:04Let's say I've got my older dogs, a Shepherd lab mix. He
- 1:37:10has a body count and a half. He's an awesome hunting dog. He
- 1:37:13use them for retrieving, use them for hunting with these guys, and they
- 1:37:15feed off each other. So literally, he'll jump in a bush, look
- 1:37:18at the bird, jump in another bush, look at the bird, and
- 1:37:20wait for the bird to react. And it's like, okay, I'll follow
- 1:37:23the bird. They figure out what we're hunting, all right, So and
- 1:37:27then he kicks it in sixth gear. Then they're hunting cooperatively. And you
- 1:37:30know, my fat ass is like chugging behind him, coughing as I'm trying
- 1:37:32to keep up with them. So I actually recently just bought a golf cart
- 1:37:36because that's what we do add in Palm Springs to drive golf carts every round.
- 1:37:39So you see my see my ass driving around my golf cart. Behind
- 1:37:42is my bird and my dog are hunting. Dude, I never think I
- 1:37:45never thought i'd say this, but my English bulldog is useless. Yeah,
- 1:37:47I told you that, useless. Like this guy's two animals. It's like
- 1:37:50a ribe, dude, any animal they get birth? How did they give
- 1:37:57birth? Yeah? I know it's a lot of money. How does it?
- 1:38:00How do they get birth? Every section? Yeah, then you see
- 1:38:02section because the head's too big for her vagina. The vagina. Any any
- 1:38:09animals if you gotta if you need help to reproduce, bro, Like,
- 1:38:13you're not gonna be a sufficient species to my wife and your TRT. Yeah,
- 1:38:18but you know what I'm saying, Like I couldn't. I could go
- 1:38:21down to Brazil and get these like you know, mm a herbs that you
- 1:38:25down there and use the natural way, But Brazil is dangerous rether just western
- 1:38:28medicine. There's no herbs. It's it's straight up like cocaine mixed with uh
- 1:38:32other stuff in there. Now it's there's nothing special. It's illegal drugs mixed
- 1:38:38in with some growth hormones and in a powder form like you some h CG
- 1:38:43in there. My body would know, Bro. Like if I get t
- 1:38:45r T and then I get the same feeling I used to get, like
- 1:38:47when I used to do coke, and then like I'll be like I'll just
- 1:38:50be like, I mean, like my body recognizes this feeling. I've been
- 1:38:54off this for a long time. What's going on? Like it's just like,
- 1:38:57God, I feel good right now, I'm just gonna go run a
- 1:38:59marathon. Like yeah, I was just like fu way more focused. Now
- 1:39:04what is it? Do you remember your first bird? American kestrel that's to
- 1:39:09my day, to this state. It's my favorite bird, Like I have
- 1:39:11all these super exotics, like I can tell you every red nape shacken that's
- 1:39:14born every year in the US, like I can count them on two hands,
- 1:39:17right damn. So all we're talking like all these brothers and sisters and
- 1:39:20her cousins. That's how few of them are there. And it's considered you
- 1:39:25know, it's known as the King's bird. All these at the litter,
- 1:39:28Yeah, they're known shahines are are known as the King's bird. Like they
- 1:39:32are amazing. We're flying birds. So but yet now you go outside twenty
- 1:39:38bucks, in ten minutes, I can go find a American castrol small falcon
- 1:39:42this big, And they're my favorite thing in the world because I can literally
- 1:39:45flu or fly them in here like how I do with all at the stadium.
- 1:39:47Yeah, I can do that with the kestrel in this little room.
- 1:39:50And I grew up and I always had a keschl free offted around until I
- 1:39:54met my ex wife and she put an end to that. So of course
- 1:39:58how she put wife, Yeah, good terms and everything like that. It's
- 1:40:03all good. It's just grew separate. Anyways, you just went in the
- 1:40:08night and the kestl landed in her hair. She had really long hair at
- 1:40:12the time. And it's like three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in
- 1:40:15the morning, Like he's wanting to go out and hunt, because literally I
- 1:40:17go take him out front and we go hunt like out front on chase,
- 1:40:21like English sparrows and stuff like that. It's an invasive species. So when
- 1:40:25I take him out hunting, this is like six seven years ago, right,
- 1:40:29and uh, anyways, to get stuck in her hair and she's running
- 1:40:32around the room screaming hysterically, me being me, I am laughing, looking
- 1:40:36for my phone because I want to record it, right. Yeah, So
- 1:40:44she was not a fan of that and put an end to that real quick.
- 1:40:46Yeah, you know that that that that'll happen. Dog, It's like,
- 1:40:49I'm always out. You got to keep your animals on check sometimes even
- 1:40:51if you don't want to, because it's like you're your your your partner's there
- 1:40:56is sometimes gonna have an issue, Like I have a snoring dog. She
- 1:41:00comes over, a dog can't sleep there. You know. I'm just like,
- 1:41:02hey, man, this so you're saying I can't spend the night at
- 1:41:05your house. Yeah, dude, you see me. I normally have like
- 1:41:09that strip and I broke my nose like nine times, like I can't breathe
- 1:41:11out my nose. I'm a full blown mouth breather. Wait that like nine
- 1:41:14times? Yeah, that I that I know of. So I had one
- 1:41:17fight. It's beautiful Calma. The guy is my second to last professional in
- 1:41:20the may fight. It does a teap, so a teeps like a pushkick,
- 1:41:26right, I leaned back, So I got I got screwed over in
- 1:41:29this matchup. I got my opponents pushed on me. I was cutting weight
- 1:41:31for a one forty five fight, and so I'm at one fifty five.
- 1:41:34I'm cutting down three weeks before five. I'm like, yeah, I'll take
- 1:41:36this little you know they call them tomato cans. Yeah, guy had four
- 1:41:40fights. I get in the cage, sal Paul six two six three like
- 1:41:44four percent body fat. I'm like, fuck all right, So I go
- 1:41:48and I do the fight and you know, first round does a t pushkick,
- 1:41:54I set back and it gets the ranks. He actually pulls my lip
- 1:41:58off right here. So all this off, so does the teeps comes down
- 1:42:02cross hook elbow right the elbow hits my nose and just flattens it out completely
- 1:42:09and rolls it over. Beautiful moy Tae combo. I even gave him a
- 1:42:14high five, like, I'm like, great, way to fuck me up.
- 1:42:17It's like there's a certain love of respect when it happens, and you
- 1:42:19don't feel the pain when you're in the cage as long as your adrenaline going.
- 1:42:23You're so hyper focused on what you're doing. Like you ever see guys
- 1:42:26in the cage like you're watching the UFC and they fill their face and look
- 1:42:28at it. Yeah, they feel warmth. I think I saw John Jones
- 1:42:30doing an interview wise toe was broken and need an interview. When you look
- 1:42:34down he finally recognized I was like, holy shit, and he points out
- 1:42:38his tone his toes broken. He had no no recollection of it happening at
- 1:42:42all. Yeah, toes break all the time, hands break all the time.
- 1:42:45I mean you get it. Yeah that so I'm a leftie to him.
- 1:42:53So my left hand is ten times can do though. Yeah, so
- 1:42:58it's both like both my hands all right, so this is so the only
- 1:43:00finger that's not broken is the one I had the ring on right ring.
- 1:43:04So yeah, it was really cool that Lac gave me, you know,
- 1:43:08one of the rings too. Like I didn't expect it. I mean,
- 1:43:10you're you're taking over. Your dad's not doing it no more. Right,
- 1:43:14Yeah he's old, Like I'm your dad looks young, dude, I don't.
- 1:43:16I wouldn't say he's old, like he's sixty he's turning sixty four.
- 1:43:20Like and this is this this contract like is a grind, and this lifestyle
- 1:43:25is a grind too. I mean, just to come out here to do
- 1:43:28the podcast, like I you know, I was late. I left three
- 1:43:30and a half hours early. Yeah, when you told me that, I
- 1:43:32was just like, I'm not. I'm not. I was like, don't
- 1:43:34even sweater, dude. I was like, you can come here to eleven
- 1:43:36you throw three hours and three hours and a half away, bro, Like
- 1:43:39yeah, And it's just that's the thing is like, you know, we're
- 1:43:42on the road, you know, twenty hours a week coming back and forth
- 1:43:45to La on it. And it's like we're here. I try to get
- 1:43:47to every single clubs support group that we have, could at least do like
- 1:43:54one wash party with them so I can bring the bird and they're incorporated and
- 1:43:57they're part of the you know, the family. Because this is a it's
- 1:43:59a big day. What time do you show up to the game With the
- 1:44:00games at seven thirty, Let's say I'm there four thirty. Man, you're
- 1:44:03almost as early as the forty two originals. And know those guys are from
- 1:44:10those guys are like three sheets the window. I get there, fucking don't
- 1:44:15don't mean there can the games are seven thirty, bro, Like yeah,
- 1:44:17yeah, Like I even I look at it, Like my lady is like,
- 1:44:21Luke, you're friends with their already. I was like, I know.
- 1:44:24I was like, we don't worry, We're not going to like four
- 1:44:26right, Like I just can't do that. I'd be super wasted. Wasted.
- 1:44:29Yeah, Hi, the whole word. I don't know how they can
- 1:44:31do that. Like those guys start tail getting like for the big games or
- 1:44:33ten till getting like ten o'clock in the morning. Yeah, Like I don't
- 1:44:36get it. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner, the whole three meals are
- 1:44:39done there. I guess it's like liquid. Well, I guess it's like
- 1:44:42getting getting that getting high consistently is compared to drinking consecutively, Like that is
- 1:44:46is not uh, it's not as it's not as bad, you know what
- 1:44:50I mean? Like I would say, like you can handle it now now,
- 1:44:54I mean we're getting We're getting towards uh, you know, toward towards
- 1:44:56the end. I wanted to ask one major question because I go hiking a
- 1:44:59lot, bro and you know what I mean, Like I like, you
- 1:45:01know, going early, when I get to see the animals with their guard
- 1:45:03down, you know what I mean, like the last hunt before the sun
- 1:45:06comes and people know that, you know, the animals are coming, the
- 1:45:09animals, no humans are coming. Can any can somebody just find one of
- 1:45:13these birds and just be like oh damn, like it's Mom's not here,
- 1:45:16or like it's abandoned, Like how do you know when to rescue one of
- 1:45:18these birds? Or like if there's that even a thing? So I'll say
- 1:45:21so the majority of the time this happens, like May June July with Cooper
- 1:45:28socks the small incippiter it's about half the size and on their branchers they they
- 1:45:31fall off. Occasionally, Mom is right there, Mom's gonna feed them,
- 1:45:34like, oh, let's pick them up. Let's don't even worry about it.
- 1:45:36Like ninety nine out of one hundred times, moms there and it's gonna
- 1:45:40take care of them, right, And it's honestly, it's one of the
- 1:45:43best things. Just to leave is like a naturalist like, yeah, I
- 1:45:45love nature. Nature's delicious, but you know nature needs to happen too at
- 1:45:49the same time. And it sounds like it's like something cruel, but it's
- 1:45:54honestly a thing like nature's gonna take its course. Like that's you know,
- 1:45:59dar wism, that's genetic selection, that's all part of it. So honestly,
- 1:46:02like for me as much like I love these guys, right, I
- 1:46:05want to save every single one, do a lot of conservation work. You
- 1:46:09know. That's the best thing is just leave it because mom is going to
- 1:46:13be there to take care of them. And now you're going to pull them
- 1:46:14out of the environment to go place with somebody. Now we're gonna have some
- 1:46:17imprinting behavior. So now they're in humans. Now they can't be released.
- 1:46:21Damn, here's that rock. Stop picking up squirrels. That includes other animals
- 1:46:26too, right, Let them be. Let them be wrong, Like if
- 1:46:30the squirrels retarded and it fell off the tree, dude, let it be
- 1:46:36exactly. So, yeah, what about that cat that he found on the
- 1:46:42freeway, Well, that fool was that fool was tagged, all right.
- 1:46:45I just like, I'm giving you crapping all for it, but it's like
- 1:46:48you're doing a good thing. I can't fault you for that, right,
- 1:46:50You're you're doing something out of love and respect for the animal. So I
- 1:46:55mean it would it could have been a fucking pig. That cat was meant
- 1:47:00to be a pet, because that's why it was. It's not like I
- 1:47:02mean, it could have been feral. But that motherfucker is. That motherfucker
- 1:47:08is feral dog. He does. He is. You don't think someone like
- 1:47:11had it in a bottle? No, No, they did, like somebody
- 1:47:13for sure, fatom because the motherfucker knows how to use like a letter box
- 1:47:15and all that shit. But like you know, that's natural too, like
- 1:47:19covering this sense and everything like that, that's all natural. But he kind
- 1:47:21of like, I'm like, for a feral cat, I'm like he just
- 1:47:24kind of saw. He's like, that's the litter box, I'm gonna take
- 1:47:26a ship there. And I'm like, at least you're not shitting everywhere otherwise
- 1:47:29I let you out again. So I'm just like, I don't know,
- 1:47:30I'm playing it out. I'll give it a month, dude, before that
- 1:47:32motherfucker needs to come around. I'm like, I tell him every day.
- 1:47:34I was like, gay, dude, I tell that cat every day.
- 1:47:38I'm like, this is week one. You got three more weeks to get
- 1:47:41this ship together. Otherwise it's the streets, all right. If it's like
- 1:47:46twenty six year old, like you know, living in your mom's basement or
- 1:47:49something like that, Like, all right, that's that's different, right,
- 1:47:51Like you need to grow up child, Like the cat, some cats will
- 1:47:57never come around. Like that's gonna be Yeah, that's built into him now.
- 1:48:00I know I'm joking. I say that to fucking around with my cat.
- 1:48:04Is I'm feeding him this morning, I was like, you know what
- 1:48:06I'm saying, Harvey. I was like, this is week two. Started
- 1:48:09off on a good pace. So when you get when he gadges your eyeballs
- 1:48:11out, we know why because you're sitting there right And I'm like that he
- 1:48:13doesn't know the difference, Like he know the night he's gonna get you.
- 1:48:16No, he you know what last night he popped on the bed bro and
- 1:48:19I and I felt this motherfucker and I was like, look, man,
- 1:48:21I'm not mean to you or anything, but I did have this like sixth
- 1:48:25sense. I was like, what if he just coming up and just scratch
- 1:48:27me? Like you know, I was like, what if he's just like
- 1:48:29motherfucker. He's like, I know, you probably deserved it. He's like
- 1:48:31he's like he's like I know, I know, I know what you mean.
- 1:48:34Like you know, he's like he understands, no, but he knows.
- 1:48:36Like like these motherfuckers know. I love animals. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:48:40yeah. I was like, I'm just kidding your hard time, I know.
- 1:48:42But it is kind of funny because they do have their own attitude.
- 1:48:45Like my other cat, completely three sixty, Like he's just like, pick
- 1:48:47me up, make me dance, do whatever you want. But this mother,
- 1:48:49this guy, he's like, I come out when you're asleep. And
- 1:48:53yeah, that's a lot of feral cats, especially a maternal. Most cats
- 1:48:57are nocturnals like fox and stuff like that. They're all nocturnal. So give
- 1:49:00him time and he'll do his thing and he'll figure it out. Every caa
- 1:49:03has his own personality, dude. Yeah, I didn't know i'd have one
- 1:49:08to be by match, you know, like that's cool. Yeah, hey
- 1:49:13man, I do want to I do want to thank you Jason for coming
- 1:49:15on number one. That's gonna be around. Applause was I was? That
- 1:49:18was like I want to say, like I've I've learned a lot because every
- 1:49:21time, like I go to like I go to the zoo, bro,
- 1:49:25like, I like seeing the animals like suck and the reason and a retarded
- 1:49:29well I mean that that's now. I do know they're retarded, but I
- 1:49:32like seeing him because what the fuck else am I gonna see a fucking lion?
- 1:49:34I'm not gonna go to Africa and I and it's majestic as fucking Sadly
- 1:49:39it's in this fucking cage, but like, hey man, I'm like,
- 1:49:42it's cool as fun to see this this different kind of species because I would
- 1:49:45never see these things in real life, you know, but getting to talk
- 1:49:48to you and actually getting to know so much about these birds like you made
- 1:49:53me definitely think about a lot, and like, next time I do see
- 1:49:56an animal while I'm hiking, as much as I gotta keep on hiking,
- 1:50:00and I'm gonna let it be, you know what I mean, Like like
- 1:50:02I don't know about the cat. If it's on the freeway, I'm stopping
- 1:50:04bron put it in the shelter. I'm not going to come back for it
- 1:50:06and put it in the shelter enough they'll fix it. Cut it loose.
- 1:50:11Yeah, yeah, straight up. But but yeah, like I've I've really
- 1:50:15learned a lot, and I have I have learned that nature has to do
- 1:50:17what it has to do, apparently. Yeah, like you said, I
- 1:50:20I have an open door policy, Like you guys can come out. We'll
- 1:50:23hang out by the hawk around like mess with them afterwards. Here, you
- 1:50:26guys want to forge your own blades too, because that's part of what I
- 1:50:29do as well, right, and talk about that at all, but wowe
- 1:50:33next time, of course, forge your own blades. Yeah. So I
- 1:50:39have a little non profit forging vets. And I you know, like after
- 1:50:42I got out of the army, like I was really affed up in the
- 1:50:44head, like really bad PTSD night terrors, like I broke my hands on
- 1:50:47the wall, like it's sleeping, like not even awake, Like I'm just
- 1:50:51like swinging Batman Ship. Yeah, he's a lot cooler with more money.
- 1:50:58But it's so it's like I build this, like try to create, you
- 1:51:00know, a culture or something for like these guys to be able to come
- 1:51:03and hang out and bond with some people are similar experience because like you get
- 1:51:06it, Like I don't need to say anything, but like you get it.
- 1:51:10Yeah, I don't know how to put other than that, and you
- 1:51:12get that cammaraderie out of it. But yeah, I'll teach you guys how
- 1:51:15to make your own blades. It's crazy. I mean I follow, I
- 1:51:17followed. Are you coming along for them? I'm already, I'm looking.
- 1:51:21I'm a talk to Jason. We're going to coordinate it after the show that
- 1:51:24way you pick out a date because I mean, obviously I know you're busy,
- 1:51:26but I do want to come out there with my crew and obviously film
- 1:51:29this because that would be quite the experience. Things. I mean, like
- 1:51:31I follow this guy that does a blacksmith and it's just like the way he
- 1:51:36makes the way he makes a show a horseshoe. Yeah, it's just amazing
- 1:51:41how long and how perfected it is, and no one just appreciates how if
- 1:51:44that's made by hand. It's so much time and effort and a talent that
- 1:51:47guys are insane that does like the like true blacksmith like blade smith, and
- 1:51:51the stuff I do is like the bastardized version of it all right, Like
- 1:51:55because those guys that are an artisan like upsetting the material and all the different
- 1:51:58stuff. I'll send you this follow he made a hammer, Black's hot.
- 1:52:01It's crazy. Blacksmith and are like very much like glass blowers and all that
- 1:52:05shit. Like these fools do not get enough credit for playing with fire like
- 1:52:09that, you know what I mean, Because it's like that's a lot of
- 1:52:11molding work, like I would say, like like glass morning. Sometimes it's
- 1:52:14a bit less intense because the tools that have come around where you're just like
- 1:52:17you're able to do it, and you know the table to from start to
- 1:52:20finish. It's advanced. But I feel like the same techniques every time I
- 1:52:24go see a blacksmith, a motherfucker's right there almost with a knightish shining armor
- 1:52:28just ping. You know. I'm just like, hey, bro, like
- 1:52:30you couldn't make this an easier process. Throughout time, we're like, you
- 1:52:33know, like what's going on? We have like power hammers I got like
- 1:52:36a hydraulic pressol. We can do some like the mask of steel stuff.
- 1:52:41We can make our own like bullets of steel, like high carbon eye contrast,
- 1:52:44so it's like silver black. Yeah. So this, oh, dude,
- 1:52:47one of the guys who told me so, I'm gonna be the dagger
- 1:52:50that with the antler and everything on from game the Game of Thrones. I
- 1:52:55want to that's when my to do project. Wow, I got some gets
- 1:53:00a knockout. I'm gonna be handing out. You'll see him the next home
- 1:53:03match. Can you tell them where to follow you? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:53:06because you have a dope. You have a dope instagram, Like all right,
- 1:53:10we got three of them though. That's so we got if you want
- 1:53:12just like shot them all all right. So like if you want the lac
- 1:53:15birds stuff, so say, like you know l A C. That's LAFC
- 1:53:17Falconer. My dad and I run that together. My personal one is like
- 1:53:20my you know, my blog, like literally I drove through a sandstorm to
- 1:53:24get here this morning, right, So the underscore Hawk guy and you'll see
- 1:53:28the Hawks Falcons behind the scenes stuff like under the tunnels when I'm out there
- 1:53:32at the stadium, like all that fun stuff, right that you normally don't
- 1:53:35see that's really unfiltered. Then, like the Forging Vets which is a five
- 1:53:40oh one C three which is a nonprofit which is you know at Forging Vets
- 1:53:44and Forging Vets dot org as well. Yeah, there you go. Make
- 1:53:47sure you guys follow him and if you do go to an L A f
- 1:53:50C game, you know, fuck around it comes to the pregame. That's
- 1:53:55how this interview came about. I was over there taking r S O giving
- 1:53:59RSL pills to the other homies and we're all just taking edibles and going to
- 1:54:01the game and bam, we're just like, look, dude, all these
- 1:54:04out. He's like, it's not Allie, it's one of the other birds.
- 1:54:06And yeah, that's that's how it came about. And it's been quite
- 1:54:12the experience, man, And and thank you for what you do, and
- 1:54:15thank you for your service because you know you have been in the military.
- 1:54:16And I look forward to going out to to you know, to where the
- 1:54:20HQ is at, you know, and actually made feeding these birds, flying
- 1:54:24them around and doing all that stuff. That's that's that to me is like
- 1:54:28is living bro. I like, I like, I have a lot of
- 1:54:30respect for people like Steve Irwin and uh you know that the guy who got
- 1:54:34the Wild Boys. Uh you know, like even though they were they were
- 1:54:39more on the committed comedic type of thing. But even though I watched all
- 1:54:42the behind the scenes, these motherfuckers respected every single one of these animals,
- 1:54:45like with all due respect. Like you don't get that up close without fearing
- 1:54:48and understanding the animals as well. So like, you know, it's it's
- 1:54:51nature is scary, it's beautiful, but you gotta respect it straight up.
- 1:54:56And that's one of the things where like I've always like stoo about also make
- 1:54:59sure you guys all away, Morning Shot Films, Morning Real Podcast. Thank
- 1:55:01you for running the show, Xavier shout outs hit the light Bud, thank
- 1:55:05you for coming on. I'm super educational for I felt like I was like
- 1:55:09a live Discovery Channel blog that was dope. And thank you for the Falcons
- 1:55:12for letting us fly throughout the world. Obviously I didn't know how much of
- 1:55:15importance they were. Next time I go to I'm gonna be like a lot.
- 1:55:19So I'm like, yo, thank thanks for the following minute. When
- 1:55:21you go I want to go, yeah, I want to go. All
- 1:55:25right, Look at the weep tattoo I got, like I got aot on
- 1:55:28my arm, would I know. I was like, I was looking at
- 1:55:31that and I was like, oh, this guy's on the same page.
- 1:55:32Oh yeah, you know, I don't have anime, but you know I
- 1:55:35got all my fucking childhood up in here too. Yeah. So I'll definitely
- 1:55:41let you know about that because you know, like I do go out there
- 1:55:44to just a good ten days. And I know this time because I was
- 1:55:45able to make friends last time. They're like, Yo, we're going sight
- 1:55:48scenes, We're going to go to the Arctic monkeys, We're gonna go see
- 1:55:50the fucking top of the mountain and ship. So I look forward to doing
- 1:55:54all that stuff. Man, you gotta start doing it. Don't forget while
- 1:55:57you're out there to you know, doing this thing that we call life,
- 1:56:00to do a little bit of living every now and then. You know what
- 1:56:02I mean, because like sometimes we go out and just fucking take a walk,
- 1:56:05go to a fucking park. Even I'm not talking about the park that's
- 1:56:08inhabited about your home, by your homeless down the street. I'm talking about
- 1:56:11a real park where like they wouldn't survive. That's why they're not there,
- 1:56:13and the animals still roam. Take a walk at a fucking park every now
- 1:56:15and then and really enjoy nature, because nature will definitely calm you down,
- 1:56:19we'll motivate you, and we'll do all kinds of things in a sense,
- 1:56:23all kind of in a healing aspect. Don't forget. I'll see some of
- 1:56:26you guys this Saturday at the High and Hungry Experience at Craft Beer Kings.
- 1:56:30Over thirty vendors, five High and Hungry Alumni food vendors selling bomb ass food
- 1:56:34twenty percent off all the craft beer in the store, Huntington Beach on Beach
- 1:56:38Boulevard, parking is gonna be scarce, so make sure you but there's hell
- 1:56:42of parking on that, like just that whole big strip, like literally and
- 1:56:45all around that, so just make sure you guys. Arrive early is from
- 1:56:47twelve to six. All the vendors loading time is from eight to eleven.
- 1:56:51It's gonna be a very great time. Over three hundred and fifty people expected
- 1:56:55to be there, and some of you guys. I know that you guys
- 1:56:57are waiting on the tickets to be added to be Additionally, I will be
- 1:57:00working on that as soon as we get off of this, but trust me,
- 1:57:03I will be adding more tickets for you guys because I know some of
- 1:57:06you guys are late bloomers I can see apparently, And yeah, thank everybody,
- 1:57:11probably new followers on Patreon as well. And there's a lot of new
- 1:57:13merch that I put up last night, including the cycle Less T shirt we
- 1:57:16have on there, Salute to Reel, recognize Real for making this dope quality
- 1:57:19T shirt. And this is probably the highest caliber T shirt that I have
- 1:57:23made, with about over two hundred and fifty GSM on the quality. So
- 1:57:27I will see you guys tomorrow. It's another face painting episode, which is
- 1:57:30we're staying in tune with the theme shout out to all the birds out there
- 1:57:34making it happen one step at a time, and shout out to you Jason,
- 1:57:39all right, much love, Thank you, Jens, appreciate it.
- 1:57:41We'll see you guys tomorrow