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The following program is part of the Patriot Broadcasting Project brought to you by the
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SCENE Projects Podcast Network.
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Welcome into this exciting episode of You're Not Crazy Here.
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I'm your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is professional arborist Robert Brame.
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Robert, welcome to the show.
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Well, howdy, Dewey.
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Good good afternoon.
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Yes.
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Well, still afternoon in California, which is where, you reside.
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And you guys have had a lot of fires out there in the last ten, fifteen years, and you've seen
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firsthand accounts of a lot of them, and that's what we're here to talk about today.
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Why don't you go ahead and give us a little bit of background?
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Obviously, you've spent a lot of time in the woods, but as a professional, why don't you
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give some, your credentials and and we'll move along from there?
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Alright.
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My credentials, I don't have any.
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I love it.
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Never stepped inside of a college.
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I've had my head in a scientific plant book.
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They're like dictionaries for half a century.
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Self taught all those years.
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Had horticulture and forestry in high school, but from there I did my own thing.
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I examined trees, ferns, shrubs, vines, and all the wildflowers.
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That's the five categories I pick on.
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And I've been learning them for an awful long time.
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I'm an old mountain climber, mountain man if you will, climbed over 130 mountains,
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botanizing the hallway, carrying this five pound book with me all over, always learning
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plants.
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It's just been a nerdy habit of mine.
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Became an arborist for twenty years and let that lapse because I didn't want to do their
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Zoom calls during the COVID years.
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Many mountain trips for backpacking areas around the Bay Area, different groups, you
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know.
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And I've done trees, a tree service for thirty three years.
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So, I've really got a lot of background and not just the fauna or the flora, but the fauna
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also.
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I'm pretty versed in most of the animals, bugs, everything else grows, everything that's alive
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in California and some of the other states.
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I'm always backpacking and cooking on campfires so I know what burns.
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Can't trick me on that one.
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Everything burns in a tiny campfire.
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You're very familiar with, the the areas after a forest fire, after a typical forest fire.
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You're very familiar with how the forest looks, how it breathes, how it acts, and that's why
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we've come together.
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I've been introduced to some of your work through mutual friends and, was blown away by
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the scientific background and just there's very few people that are gonna have the experience
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with these plant life, as you do and to know the natural order of these things.
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And, obviously, that's bringing us to, the unnatural order of many of these fires that
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we've been seeing, you know, in California, in Maui, and now we have fires starting in North
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Carolina in the middle of the winter.
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We're all very interested to know your take on it.
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And I know that you have a presentation that you've kind of prepared, and you've been
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delivering these out in California recently to some packed rooms because, it's grown beyond a
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a mild interest at this point.
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People are losing their homes.
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People are losing their livelihoods, and they want answers.
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And they're not getting answers in traditional media.
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They're not getting answers from the experts, and we're looking we're looking to you now,
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Robert, for answers.
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And I don't know if we're looking in the right place, but it seems like a much better place to
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start than, well, with the BS that we're getting fed on the mainstream news.
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So if you wanna go ahead and kinda start, your presentation, I'd like to open the floor to
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you.
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Well, I sure, incidentally, those six media giants, all they do is lie.
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If their mouth is moving, it's lying.
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They are not the experts.
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Not at all.
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They're just paid to say a certain verse.
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All right, you can see that okay?
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I can see it great on my screen.
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Okay, I'm going swipe it over to there.
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I've just prepared this in the last couple of weeks, this set of photos.
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I've plenty of photos, probably over a thousand of anomalies in these forest fire aftermaths.
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Incidentally, I've been to 46 of these fire aftermaths now since 2017 in Santa Rosa, the
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Tubbs Fire.
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But I've caught up with some of the ones before that, all the way back to, well, nineeleven,
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and all over the world, not just here in California.
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And I've also taken 126 trips to these 46 different aftermaths, and possibly three were
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natural.
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Two of them were just cars that caught on fire and burned up the grassland next to it.
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One was a natural forest fire as far as I can tell, North of Weed, California by our Mount
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Shasta, the volcano.
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All the trees were burned up and it looked like this.
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This is more of a standard wood combustion fire that we know of, and what I backpacked through
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for half a century.
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When a fire comes through, it burns everything, leaves blackened poles.
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There's no needles left generally, no twigs, no branches, sometimes the poles or trunks are
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burned down to a low stump.
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And if it's very hot and it's not that windy, they'll burn a hole into the ground where the
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trunk was, and you don't want to fall in them.
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Some of them can be very large, and they all burn.
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I don't care what species of tree.
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If they say it's fire retardant, when a firestorm comes through, this is the way it
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looks, No exception.
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Well and and, to to show a little, you know, firsthand experience for me, I grew up in
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Deadwood, South Dakota.
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And back in, what, 02/2002, we had the Grizzly Gulch fire.
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And it was a fire started by down power lines, and it put the entire town of Deadwood in.
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So and it burned everything.
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It was great.
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I mean, we were we had to evacuate.
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The whole town evacuated, and this is what the aftermath looked like.
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I'm very familiar with this scene particular.
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I mean, obviously, this is years later probably on this scene or at least a year, and you have
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some of the underbrush that is growing back here.
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A very familiar sight to us that have lived through a natural forest fire.
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Yeah.
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At all elevations from sea level to up at least over 11,000 feet.
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Smaller trees up there, of course, but I've seen it all.
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I know what burns.
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And then I was designing a hike up in Santa Rosa.
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I usually share this one first.
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And I was just looking at areas to go and this came up on my computer screen.
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Instantly, I said, why are all the trees there?
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And why are they green?
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These homes are gone.
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There's no partial houses.
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And they're not black.
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There's no carbon.
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They're white ash.
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They're just missing.
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Unbelievable.
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This is the Coffee Park area.
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So disturbing, man.
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It's so disturbing
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to look And you would really think that almost everybody would understand there's something
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wrong with this scene.
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And many of these are redwoods which are fire retardant.
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When a firestorm comes through, burns those too, just like an oak tree.
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If it's hot enough, it burns all the leaves.
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So, there's all kinds of species in here, at least 75 different species I figure in the
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Santa Rosa Valley.
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And, yeah, a few burn, but overall, these should be missing.
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All of them.
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No exception.
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Should be gone.
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Just like the houses are.
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There's no way that a house on the corner can can burn to white ash nothing, but its shrubs
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are still on the corner untouched.
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Yep.
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And I've never seen fires that were in the city.
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That's only in the seven to ten years where cities are burning down.
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Never heard of that.
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A forest fire might be in the High Sierra that comes across at mid elevations and burns up to
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a small community and the firemen get it out and they lose a few cabins maybe, but that's
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about it.
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Now, three or four or five or even more fires every year, and well over a million acres of
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land just in California.
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And I mean, this year, January just passed us.
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Just January alone, they burned down over 16,000 homes in the middle of winter, in the
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four fires or three fires in the Los Angeles area.
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In January, that's unprecedented.
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A year later, I saw the paradise fire.
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Same thing, up here it's conifers.
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All these are flammable.
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There's some introduced conifers from different countries, Blue Atlas Cedars and Deedar cedars
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and stuff like that.
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There's a rose of Italian cypress to the left down there.
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Those perfect rows.
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But the number one forestry in California, which is a ponderosa pine, it forgot to burn.
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It's the tree that burns more often than any other species in California.
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Number one.
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And that is what we have in the Black Hills.
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So when ours went up, we had had a couple of dry summers and a couple of dry winters in a
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row.
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It was a tinderbox.
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And we had a problem with the, you know, with the underbrush, and a lot of this stuff hadn't
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been cleared out in a long time.
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So when it went up, it went fast, and it went hot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When you have all those ladder fuels underneath, it gets nasty.
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I start with this one quite often.
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Most of these from the ground are my pictures with a real good camera.
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Big Basin State Park is a redwood, old redwood trees on the San Francisco Peninsula.
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And down on Highway 1 with the ocean behind me, I'm standing there taking a picture of these
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blue gum eucalyptus.
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And for most of your viewers, they probably understand eucalyptus is a very combustible
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leaf.
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The oils in it, you can light on fire very easily.
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A cigarette lighter in my hand, I can light a green leaf on fire.
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That's the way the blue gum is.
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I can't speak for all the different species of eucalyptus.
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There's over 800 species in the world.
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But this one's our most common.
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Here they are.
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They're only 80 to 100 feet tall.
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They're young ones.
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And the trunks get black, but the leaves refuse to burn even when they're in the fire.
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They're down there in the flames.
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The fires went right through them and forgot to burn them.
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We're dealing with a different flame right there.
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It shows you if it was a normal flame, those trees have been gone.
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It had been a horrible firestorm.
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The way they burn, yeah, eucalyptus is one of the most flammable leaves you can find.
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And they didn't burn.
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They closed that park for us, didn't let anybody in there for two years, and when they
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did let you in there, they shrank the parking lots.
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All it lets you on a few trails for safety, and to go there, had to get on the computer and get
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an online permit to go out and play.
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You can't just show up at the booth, pay the ranger cash.
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They didn't take cash.
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It has to be a credit card or your ATM card, the numbers on that, you know, through the
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Internet.
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It's the only way you can go out and play.
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They're doing that in all the parks now, one by one.
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They're doing it everywhere.
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Here's your young ponderosa pines, right in the flames.
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This is the Oak Fire in Mariposa City over on the Western side of Yosemite National Park.
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They put an old gentleman in jail there and are framing him for doing this fire.
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I happened to analyze that fire for three to five days.
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I was out there a lot.
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Nothing was normal, I mean nothing.
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And they're framing this poor old guy and saying, he did it.
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Here it is, fire everywhere, but the needles refuse to burn.
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I'm sure many of your friends have tried to burn a Christmas tree.
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Don't ever do that.
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Once you get them going, those flames come out of the fireplace and up onto your mantle and
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you better get the garden hose and run-in the house and put it out.
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That's what these do.
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Sap starts burning at 192 or 93 degrees.
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That's just the sap.
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So, really volatile stuff when it comes to pine trees.
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We have 22 species of pines in California.
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This is a bay tree, or I'm sorry, it's a coast live oak tree.
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Oak trees are very drought tolerant.
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They hold a ton of water inside.
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And many of your drought tolerance are like that.
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They close-up their stomata in their leaves, they hold their water and they don't let
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anything out, which we call as transpiration rates.
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They hold that water in there to survive.
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Well, they're filled with water.
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Here, this tree must have been leaning over the road, and they cut it down and I'm noticing it
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burned from the inside out.
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The fires came up through the roots and up through the trunk into all the limbs, and there
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was no opening anywhere.
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The fire didn't just go right into the trunk.
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And incidentally, this fire is the Kincade Fire north of Santa Rosa.
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And the closest fire to this tree was half a mile away on the mountainside.
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These vineyards were all the way around me on every side.
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And of course, media would say the flying numbers did it.
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All media giants always say the flying numbers.
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I have friends that tell me Rob, it's the flying numbers.
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No.
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Here's the same species, the blue gum eucalyptus.
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This was about 130 feet tall, seven foot in diameter when it fell over.
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Was standing next to it.
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I couldn't believe it.
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This is cattle country.
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The cattle are late in September, October.
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They've eaten the dead grass down to an inch or two.
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The hay truck has to show up to feed the poor creatures.
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There's nothing to eat.
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So, your combustible materials are almost zero.
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Yet, this gargantuan tree burned from the inside fell over about 130 feet tall, a good
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sized one.
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And why is it hollow?
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I don't see cavities in eucalyptus trees.
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I've cut them down for thirty three years.
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Rare for me to find any hole that goes inside the tree.
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They compartmentalize their wounds very well.
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Not like a maple, madrone or some other species.
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Maples hate to be cut, they hollow out right away.
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This didn't have a cavity, no way.
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This little T post to the right a little bit, there's one of those right behind the stump
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where it was probably touching the stump or trunk.
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That's what got hot.
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That T post is hammered in the ground.
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I don't know how hot it got to do this type of damage.
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But the whole thing fell over and there's nothing on the ground but an inch or two of
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dead grass.
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There's no way it could do this.
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A little flame like that, you could just walk over.
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Because we've done it.
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We've had burns in these farms around here where they burn off thistles and little weeds
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they don't like.
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They set the fire and they just walk around it and it doesn't do this kind of damage.
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The third time I came up this road and I'm standing on the road.
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The third time I came up, the whole tree was gone.
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The trunk was completely taken out.
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Why would they do that?
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Why would they care?
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This is in the middle of nowhere.
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It's not next to a town.
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They got rid of the evidence.
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This tree I talk about quite often.
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In the Western United States, I believe this is the largest water holding capacity tree there
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is, a Fremont cottonwood, king of the Willow family.
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All the cottonwoods, which is populace genus, has a black cottonwood, the white cottonwoods,
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the Lombardy poplars, and the aspen at high altitudes, which we have in the Rocky Mountains
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also.
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That's actually a populace tree.
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So, a tunnel water, this one's about four feet in diameter, there were two of them.
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They were in a spring in October.
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The water is copious.
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It's still coming out of the hill.
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It didn't dry up.
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This was a healthy Fremont cottonwood.
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Yet, it burned from the inside out, split in all these different directions, and not one
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leaf burn.
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The thinnest part of the tree.
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The things that burn the first in a fire is the leaf or the needle.
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They forgot to burn.
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Yeah.
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Believe the yeah.
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That's exactly.
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It's it's crazy that anybody buys it when, I mean, I grew up in the woods.
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We we lived in the middle of the woods and made a campfire every single night for three months
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while we built our house, and then that's how we heated our house for I still to this day.
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Right?
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So it's just crazy to me to look at the massive destruction to the trunk to the inside of the
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trunk of this tree with no visible damage to the outside of it, whatever.
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I've never seen anything like that in my life.
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No fire does that.
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That's right.
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Even if you started a fire on the inside of that tree, say, you know what I mean?
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You hollowed it out or whatever or dug into it and you started off.
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It wouldn't do this.
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That's right.
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This has so much water.
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Once in a while, we'll have to remove some, a lot smaller.
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I cut them, water will geyser out of the stump a half inch to an inch high, it's just
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geysering.
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The root pressure is bringing this water up, it has a high transpiration rate.
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It sucks the water up from the springs, lakes, rivers, whatever, all the way up to the leaves
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and gets evaporated out, or it's called transpiration rate, but it goes right up and
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out of the system, not like a thick leathery leaf tree.
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You can never burn this, pour gas on it, stack firewood around it.
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It's not gonna do this.
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Period.
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Never.
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These guys can run at four to six feet in diameter.
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There's a giant one in Nevada, Carson City.
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It's probably 15 feet through.
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I live close to the Missouri River now, Robert, we got some massive cottonwoods.
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So Right.
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Exactly what you're talking about.
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And they gotta have their roots in that water.
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Amazing.
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There was two of them here.
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I just highlighted that.
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I had to talk about heartwood versus sapwood.
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Sapwood is live tissue with sap.
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Whether it's really watery like a maple or like a pine, very thick, coagulated, sappy, sticky
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stuff.
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But here's let's see what do we got here?
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These are the two tallest trees on the planet.
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Coastal redwoods, king of the redwoods, and Douglas fir, king of the pine family.
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The Douglas firs in the pine family is the second tallest tree in the world.
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These are toddlers when it comes to these two species.
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The Douglas fir, big ones can be eight feet across, and the redwoods, you know, 15 to
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probably 18 feet across.
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Why do they have 50 to 90% heartwood in the middle?
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That's dead non conductive tissue.
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It's dead, it's cracked, there's no sap.
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The sapwood or live tissue is around the perimeter near the edge of the bark.
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That's what's keeping it alive.
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When I cut these trees down, they have zero heartwood, where it's darker or even lighter on
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some of these, or maybe a dot in the middle that's dead.
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That's normal.
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This is all 50 to 80% hardwood.
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How did that happen?
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And they're not all black on the outside.
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They've been cooked on the inside like being in a microwave.
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And that gets, you know, we'll talk about that later.
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But these have been to me cooked from the inside out.
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I don't know what rate if it's fast or slow, and they're already cracking.
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These were cut down, I'm sure within a month, stacked up to go to the lumber mill.
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Unbelievable to see that amount of heartwood on these toddlers.
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I've cut down five, six foot diameter redwoods, zero heartwood in the middle.
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So why is it like this?
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Every tree.
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This one are oak trees.
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These have the ton of water in them, not like the sappy pines and redwoods and such.
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So some of these were starting to combust.
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Notice the ends.
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Huge amount of hardwood, but they're turning black.
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They're burning internally in four or five of these shots.
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Unbelievable what's happening.
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The water conveys the electrical current and combust where it is, which is in the middle of
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the tree.
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This is happening everywhere.
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Anytime I see a log pile, I've got to get in and take a look at it.
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When your tires come up, and I want their scientists to prove me wrong on any of this
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stuff I talk about, I'm waiting for them.
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This is your rubber tires, perhaps one out of 200, even 300 tires, say polyester cord.
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And I believe they have one tiny metal wire around the edge to keep it on the rim, so it
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doesn't fall off your rim.
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One little cord, I believe, steel cord.
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This is the way I find 99% of them.
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The rubber is gone and all your steel belts are there.
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It's one or the other.
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Steel belts come out just like this or polyester cord.
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There's nothing in there.
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And they're untouched.
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They're in the same location as all the other tires that are just turned into steel belts,
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little slinky like steel belts.
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I'll pick the thing up to see if somebody just rolled it there to play devil's advocate.
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Nope, there's a ring in the soil, it's been sitting for years.
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Why is that not burned up?
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Get your super scientist to tell me that one.
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It's the metal that's on fire.
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It's pretty much put the tire in a gigantic microwave and watch what happens.
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That's the way I find them.
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There's never a partial ever.
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And I've seen, oh my God, 600 to 800 cars at least.
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And some of these people are hoarders of car parts, and they have piles of tires.
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And then there's just one that's untouched.
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Really?
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There's the highest peak in California to the right of center, Mount Whitney.
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All those are 14,000 feet down there.
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All right, I want to get some of those materials out of the way.
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This is Los Angeles, the Palisades Fire.
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In all the pictures, you'll notice trees.
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And I don't care what species they really are.
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I'd like to pick on eucalyptus and pine family, but it really doesn't matter.
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When you have a horrific firestorm that's moving super fast and does this kind of damage
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to a house, the trees would be stumps or blackened poles.
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Amazing.
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And I'll get to the aluminum here.
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I might as well talk about it now.
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Whenever I find aluminum or alloy rim, the melting points are 1,221 degrees.
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That's to start with.
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To get it really flowing and go across the street, perhaps it goes up two or three or more
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100 degrees, especially when it's 20 feet from the vehicle and out in the middle of the
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street, there's nothing to keep it hot.
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Still running.
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Why is it still running?
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It should be cooling off in a second.
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Nope.
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Well, yeah.
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Robert, of my background, I was a welder.
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Right?
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And this is what and I welded aluminum for two years.
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I know how it behaves, and people were well, this is how how to fire burns, and this is and
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I was just like, you don't know anything about metallurgy, though.
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Don't know anything about metallurgy.
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There's no way.
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Like, you know how much intense electricity is how I was welding.
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Right?
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A wire feeding welder and watching this metal move.
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It was really seeing the aluminum melted that went, what the what is going on?
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Yeah.
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I've got three metal workers that build all kinds of high-tech parts and they confirm temps
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with me, they tell me all this stuff.
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Amazing, not the alloys or aluminum.
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Sometimes the aluminum rim will chunk out in these pieces and that could be different
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mixtures.
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I don't know, I'm not a metal expert, not at all.
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Same area, don't know the area well down there, I'm just grabbing all the clearest pictures I
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can off the internet, But here you go.
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Grass everywhere, very short.
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Where'd you get the giant flames to take this house out?
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Still grass on the back left behind the chimney there.
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Like, there's still grass.
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These look like valley oaks or giant coast live oaks.
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Hard to tell.
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They didn't contribute to this.
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It was the metals in the house.
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Screws, bolts, nails, pipes, every kind of fastener and rebar, everything else, that's
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what's on fire.
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That was somebody's home, Robert.
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That was someone's home.
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Yeah.
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It's devastating.
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I don't know.
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I don't I know.
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It's heartbreaking to to have to look at all of these images and then to be fed lies about its
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origin is just it's
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And lately on the in on the TV, I see YouTube cuts from the TV stations, and our experts are
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telling you what it is, and they bring people on and try to explain it away and mock us.
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They're mocking me?
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Are you kidding me?
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Bring them to me.
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That's what I my newest term, bring them to me.
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When they talk about the fires getting under the eaves, no.
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When you look from the air on any of these fires, you'll notice the house is, the roof is
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on fire first, dead center, up in the middle of the roof.
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It's not under the eaves.
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I hope the fireman can start waking up to this.
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Got several shots of this.
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Those pines are I've never seen one, but I know what they are.
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It's an what is it called?
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Aleppo pine?
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It's from the South Coast Of California, right next to the coast.
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Aleppo, that's not right.
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Torrey pine.
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Giant thing, very open, long needles and rounded habit like this.
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They've refused to burn and we had horrible car fires under them.
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Really?
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Same place, different angles.
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Some of these aren't so clear.
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I see all those Teslas over there or a couple of them.
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We don't even know what these cars were, but look at the aluminum.
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What did the fire jump from car to car?
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I say the beam came down the street and zapped them where they were, and my brother thinks
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there was people in those cars.
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I do no doubt.
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No doubt.
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People It
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hit you so fast.
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Vacarized.
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Pull over.
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That's right.
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Vacarized.
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This is crazy.
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It's it's just so unnatural.
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Like, how did the fire burn not any of trees along the sidewalk, but torched all of those
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cars in succession and, like
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And look at them.
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A a forest fire wouldn't
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do that.
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Like it started from the front and went back, and the people in the back there saw what was
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happening and tried to get out of the way.
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Does it not appear that way to you?
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I know these three here, they were almost in their lane like they didn't even have a chance
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to pull over.
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Some in the back, they turned in a little bit, it looks like, but I don't think they all made
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it out.
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Very sad.
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Same with paradise on Pence Road.
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Car after car were exploding on fire, and the fire was a half mile behind them.
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Each car down the road in a traffic jam was just catching a fire.
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And the people saw it and they got out and ran and their car got it next.
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They were very lucky.
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The same area over there under the pine, aren't there giant flames?
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Yes, but it's the wrong flame.
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As hot as they are, they don't recognize the organic matter.
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Same with your plastics.
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If you don't get in there quick enough because they like to keep you out and steal all the
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evidence and you can't have plastic bins rolling around, that's evidence.
26:46
So they have to get those out on truckloads.
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That's why I'd like everybody to watch.
26:50
The trucks have to leave the site, where do they take them?
26:53
I to know all about that.
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What dump it's going to it?
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I tell you, plastics everywhere.
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There is one from the air.
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Some of these are eucalyptus in the foreground to the right.
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I can always tell a eucalyptus.
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Pines everywhere in the background.
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I mean, look at this.
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Unless the tree's very close to a house
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All you can see is trees, Robert.
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This is a forest fire, but none of the trees broke down.
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In the last few years, they've taken the word forest out of forest fires and they're called
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them wildfires.
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And to find a natural looking forest fire aftermath on the computer is very hard.
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They've scrubbed them off the Internet.
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Yeah, as far as you can see, trees, trees, trees, unless they're close to a house or they
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hold a ton of water, liquidy water.
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Those are the first to burn.
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Your conifers, which should burn first, are burning dead last and from the inside out.
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Your willows, cottonwoods, alder, birch, maples, even the yolks, they're burning first
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from the inside out.
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They're all hollow.
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Here's a hilltop and the palm trees.
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Everybody says, what about the palms?
28:05
They're not burning the dead hardwood all the way up that should burn.
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Instead, they're burning the base of the front or leaf, where the most water is stored is in
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the base of the leaf up top.
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And you'll notice when you see them live ones, they're all on fire way up there.
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Forty, sixty, 70 feet up.
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Like, how'd the fire get up there?
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It's the water.
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Burn the trunk.
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Right?
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And the trunk's dead hardwood.
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I climb these all the time with my spurs on.
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Like, it's hard, dry, dead wood and it didn't lap up against them.
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Let me show you something.
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This one's horrific.
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Saw that on the Internet.
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Wow.
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Looks like World War three.
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Just terrible.
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Trees Even if you if someone was dropping bombs on it, the bombs wouldn't be smart enough to
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avoid the trees.
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You're right.
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It's You're right.
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It's just incredible how you could look at this and not have questions.
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They wouldn't show you these pictures on the TV, and nobody would explain it correctly
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anyway.
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So anything close to the house, especially with water in it, liquidy, those will burn up, but
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not in a normal way.
29:10
Everything that should burn doesn't, and everything that is burning shouldn't.
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Making up my own little sayings.
29:19
Look at these, and I don't know what these doors were made out of, but it was a thinner
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metal, they're gone too.
29:25
Windows melting out approximately 2,500 degrees.
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Forest fire tops out at fourteen twenty seven, doesn't approach that temperature, and nobody
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stacked firewood on it, there's no wood or brush or anything.
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How did that do it?
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The seats couldn't do it, the hoses, belts, seats, tires, uh-uh.
29:42
It wouldn't get hot enough to do that damage.
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Yet, every vehicle I've seen in seven years, no windows were intact.
29:50
Every window in every firearm aftermath was melted out.
29:54
Everyone.
29:57
This one came out on TV and one of the media giant said, it was the expert, she said, Oh,
30:03
these are the trees that save the house.
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Uh-huh, the trees save the house.
30:08
I wanted to slap her, but I couldn't reach inside the TV.
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This is the tallest cedar tree on the planet.
30:14
True cedars are in the pine family and there's only four.
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This is the big one from the Himalayas, Deodar cedar.
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These are all quite large Deodars.
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Pine family, they're flammable.
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They didn't burn that day.
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And I got a feeling to the left, all the homes are gone.
30:29
Look at this car.
30:31
Same old thing, but that's what they said.
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The trees saved the house.
30:36
Here's a rim that chunked out and then melted.
30:38
I'll see a lot of that too.
30:40
And the fire hydrant, that's one of the professionals picture, either the water is on
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fire or the metal itself.
30:47
I almost think it's the water dripping out of it.
30:50
And I come to a conclusion just a couple of days ago, why would the water be on fire?
30:55
A percentage of it is hydrogen.
30:58
Water when you take it apart, I don't know what the properties are, but part of that is
31:03
hydrogen.
31:03
The guy who wanted to build the electric car and run on water, pour the water in, it would
31:07
separate the molecules and run on the hydrogen.
31:10
I think this was on fire.
31:13
I don't know, it's not my area, but why is that fire hydrant on fire?
31:17
Yeah, how about that one?
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There's the whole area just gone.
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Nice flat area to build the Olympics.
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I hear the Olympics are coming.
31:27
Trees up and down every street, and in the perimeter it's grassland looks like.
31:31
Sub shrubs maybe.
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Yeah.
31:35
This is another angle, that same old big oak, a little bit of a different angle.
31:39
Look at all the trees, a light shade of green.
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The leaves have been put in a gargantuan microwave and sucked the water.
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Off.
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Like, when it gets so hot, it saps all the water out of these trees.
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Right?
31:51
And, like, there's going to be evidence of a fire, and these trees look fine.
31:57
That's right.
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They're like shade of green.
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I'll find that quite often.
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And here in my city, had a some kids were playing with matches and it burned up a grass
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that was four feet deep, like October four or five years ago.
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And my clients were up there, I ran up there in the fire department, put it out like it was
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nothing.
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They were yawning, they came out of their hoses, but all the oak trees were 20 feet high.
32:19
And these are evergreen oaks, coast live oak, the number one species in our state.
32:24
They were brown, 20 feet up from a natural flame.
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Brown, just from a grass fire.
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Not here.
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This is horrific.
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They didn't even turn brown?
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Yeah.
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And this one in the back, I kept this for the stone pine, Italian from Italy.
32:39
The Italian stone pine is a big broad pine that's wider in canopy than it is in height in
32:45
general.
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It didn't want to burn up.
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It's got some black on the trunk.
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The house is toasted, only the rock, cement walls or whatever they are, stone walls are
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intact.
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I mean, I'm still looking for the burned vegetation.
32:58
The foreground on the right is probably a maple or something that holds a lot of water.
33:02
House is completely gone, but there's a shrub right there on the left that looks fine.
33:08
Yeah.
33:08
Yeah.
33:08
Everything around it is burned to a crisp, but the shrub is like it just doesn't Yeah.
33:14
Doesn't make any sense.
33:15
It doesn't make any sense for anyone who's ever been around a fire.
33:20
It's like, make it make sense.
33:23
I just can't.
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You're right.
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I've had thousands of campfires, and I don't care what the leaf is that I put in there.
33:30
Green.
33:30
The thickest I don't care what it is.
33:32
The thickest leaf put in there, in one minute that leaf is gone in a tiny campfire.
33:37
These are higher horrific firestorms, and they're forgetting to burn the organics.
33:43
This one's all I see is green.
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I see green everywhere.
33:46
What the Amazing.
33:49
There's a new technology is upon us.
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Just to
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make And that's, I think, a good a good point here to transition to talking about what is
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causing these, Robert.
33:59
I I know that you are very educated in the technologies that are capable of doing these
34:07
things, and I and I wish in the last, you know, 25 or so that we have left here for you to
34:13
share with our listeners
34:14
Sure.
34:15
What is the true cause of this.
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Right?
34:17
I think we've seen enough to know that this is not natural.
34:20
Something, man made, a technology is doing this.
34:24
It's obviously, electrical in nature.
34:27
It seems to be conductive through water, through metal, but not wood.
34:33
That's right.
34:34
Unless it's brand new wood from the lumber yard, still has sap in it.
34:38
That's a possibility also, but not often.
34:41
Well, what I've heard it from all the different people that have contacted me, we've got a lot
34:45
of categories, electromagnetic technology, MAZR with an M, laser, the five gs towers even,
34:55
scalar waves, and the last guy that got a hold of me, I can't remember his name, builds robots
35:00
and does all this satellite stuff.
35:02
He says it's actually called near infrared.
35:06
So which one is it?
35:07
Or is it a little component of each one?
35:09
I don't know, not my area.
35:11
All I know is all of this is in the microwave arena because of the materials, what it's doing
35:17
to everything in front of me, the organics, everything.
35:20
So it's somewhere in that area.
35:22
The near infrared, I looked on the internet and it's lasers that you can't see.
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And that would fit right in.
35:29
You know, because people have pictures of these lasers coming from the sky and everywhere.
35:33
How many of those are fake?
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I don't know.
35:35
How many are real?
35:37
But, those are all the categories I wrote down.
35:40
I can't really tell you which one's which.
35:44
The electromagnetic, a friend Shane on my computer, Facebook, he says, when a car gets
35:51
toasted from these, within one day they're all rusted.
35:54
It's a premature resting thing, something to do with electromagnetic technology.
35:59
I can't explain it any better.
36:03
Yeah, a lot of people are talking about different types of technology, and perhaps it's
36:07
a combination of all.
36:08
And there's also the smart meters.
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They want to say it's all smart meters.
36:12
Well, meters doesn't They're not on cars, they're not in trees, they're not in a little
36:19
metal shed behind the house.
36:21
Yes, every house has a smart meter or most of them, and I've heard of plenty not burning when
36:26
they took the smart meter off.
36:27
So those possibilities are there.
36:29
I just can't say for sure.
36:31
It could be just a targeting mechanism.
36:33
Right.
36:34
Not not to say that it doesn't have some play in the grand scope of things.
36:39
It it is just not causing this kind of destruction.
36:43
I mean, this is Right.
36:44
Insane.
36:46
Insane.
36:47
And not a tree burned in the photo.
36:49
And our rich green hair, like, really?
36:51
Really?
36:52
It's just and it's wherever I go.
36:54
These flames are coming from above.
36:57
There's nothing burned around this high.
36:59
It started from the inside of the house.
37:01
I I know.
37:03
People are lighting their houses on fire as they're walking out and getting evacuated.
37:07
Yeah.
37:07
Got under the eaves again, but didn't burn the grassland.
37:10
It goes almost all the way around the whole place.
37:13
The grass didn't burn?
37:14
That would burn pretty good with the ember if it landed right and we had wind.
37:18
No.
37:18
Just just the house.
37:20
That's one of their that's channel five, it looks like, not mine.
37:23
Nothing down there is mine.
37:25
LA, I have not traveled down there at all.
37:26
There's plenty on the Internet wherever you go, you know.
37:30
Usually, when I find a vehicle, it's completely been consumed.
37:33
It's rare I find a half half vehicle that's been burned, but if I do, sometimes it's very
37:40
abrupt like that day in New York twenty four years ago.
37:45
Half the car burns right to a door, right to the edge of a door and doesn't overlap to the
37:51
back door.
37:52
Some of those I've seen and I should have the pictures.
37:55
How does a fire stop exactly and not overlap, make black on the back door, a perfect line?
38:02
And actually, I'm gonna have to dig through that in the next couple of weeks and see if I
38:04
can find one.
38:06
If you don't like the word smart, don't buy smart water, don't buy this little car, smart
38:12
car.
38:13
I don't like the word smart at all nowadays.
38:15
Smart meters, smart refrigerators, Another one.
38:20
Robert, I've been dumb my whole life.
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I think I'm gonna stay dumb for the rest of it.
38:26
I tell you.
38:28
It's just
38:29
Well and and we're we're pretty isolated.
38:32
So I've grown up most of my life in South Dakota.
38:35
Right?
38:35
Uh-huh.
38:36
Very rural, very in the middle of the woods, and that's why it's so shocking to me because
38:41
I've I've lived through forest fires, and then you're just so many questions.
38:47
When there's when there's more questions than there are answers and the answers that you
38:53
receive are total bullshit Yeah.
38:56
Then you have to go looking for your own.
38:59
And I I commend you for compiling all of these photos and all of this information for us.
39:06
It's just incredible.
39:07
Yeah.
39:08
And you've you've lived it, so it's it's blatant when you've lived it.
39:11
That's all I've ever done.
39:13
In my my roaring twenties, I would climb mountains and had bonfires, and I've burned
39:17
everything.
39:18
That's what I that's what I've done.
39:20
I wanted to speak about this, which is going on probably everywhere.
39:24
In California, I've noted seven or nine people put in jail as supposed arsonist when it's
39:30
impossible that they could have done it.
39:32
This was a a poor person that lived out there, a homeless person on the bridge here, and they
39:39
pinned it on him, he's actually in prison.
39:41
They went to a jury, the whole courts, 12 people on the jury convicted him.
39:46
That's what I happened to analyze two or three times by myself before they even say they
39:51
caught him.
39:52
Anomalies everywhere.
39:53
And it breaks my heart that they're putting innocent people in jail.
39:57
This is from that aftermath.
39:59
The bridge is right below.
40:01
These are California Bay trees in the middle.
40:03
California Bay is in the Laurel family, Laurel families, avocados, camphor trees, but this one
40:08
happens to be very flammable.
40:10
Oils like eucalyptus, you can light these on fire, again, small fire, even a cigarette
40:15
lighter.
40:15
Once you get it going, you better run.
40:17
A bay tree will burn all the way up the whole thing, gone.
40:20
It's right behind these houses.
40:22
There was bays everywhere here.
40:23
Down the hill was a trampoline, no holes in it, a synthetic.
40:27
And here's that house with the sheet metal, where it rests pretty quick, no dew in the air,
40:32
within a day it rusts, some electromagnetic technology that Shane tells me about.
40:39
There was a parking block up there for one of the mansions that burned down, homemade, on the
40:43
ground, thirty, forty feet long, just like this, two by six or two by eight, and instead
40:48
hammered in the ground.
40:50
The only place that whole thing burned is where the bolts are.
40:53
These are all different.
40:54
I had more, but I just wanted to put two in.
40:56
That's the only place it burned.
40:58
The bolts were on fire.
41:00
Your stainless steel bolts are not burning.
41:04
And I heard that something to do with their coating.
41:07
Because I'll see them on swing sets and the plastic seats, slides, all that won't burn.
41:11
And I'm noticing their stainless steel bolts.
41:13
And somebody told me why, it's something to do with electromagnetic covering.
41:18
Utah.
41:19
Beautiful.
41:20
This lady, I've talked to her lawyer.
41:23
He's a federal lawyer out of Modesto or Manteca, one of the M Streets from Merced.
41:28
He's up there and he's the defender, public defender.
41:31
And I talked to him and I told him about what I do and everything he needed.
41:35
He wasn't even interested.
41:36
They're running her through the coals.
41:38
This was the fawn fire at Redding, California, just out of town.
41:42
I happened to go up there before they put her in jail, and I found the most damning evidence.
41:47
Eucalyptus happened to grow up there.
41:48
They didn't burn.
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Nope.
41:51
And got more eucalyptus.
41:53
The trunks turned back in black, and that's the fluids inside.
41:57
The Cambium fluids are right underneath the bark.
41:59
The most active fluids, that's what's on fire, the trunks, because the liquid, but not the
42:05
leaves.
42:06
A two story house just disappeared, no trees burned.
42:12
Gray pine on the left, that's our lowland pine.
42:14
Deedar cedar next to it.
42:16
The long needles is your ponderosas.
42:18
That's a massive house.
42:19
If that whole thing is on fire, I mean, you're talking about the heat.
42:25
Like, things are spontaneously combusting around it at that heat.
42:30
Like, it doesn't the flame doesn't have to touch it to light it on fire when you're
42:34
talking about fourteen, sixteen hundred degrees in the center of that fire.
42:40
For none of those trees to be more than just a little crispy is crazy.
42:46
I mean, no fire forest fire here, and those are conifers.
42:50
Those are the number one thing that burns in a forest is the pine family.
42:54
That's gonna be on the cover of my book.
42:56
And this lady is in jail.
42:58
The whole fence line looks like this.
43:00
Why were the nails on fire?
43:02
And they have all their experts with CAL FIRE and the sheriffs and my god, the whole fence
43:07
line.
43:07
See, that's a different one.
43:09
Why are the nails on fire?
43:10
Of course, they can't explain it away.
43:12
They don't have a chance.
43:14
This old Edward Wakerman, the Oak Fire Mariposa by Yosemite.
43:19
All the police called him down this road to go to town and meet him for something.
43:22
They stopped him.
43:24
They had, I don't know how many cop cars, sheriff cars, all with their guns out.
43:28
And this crippled old guy can hardly walk.
43:30
He's diabetic.
43:31
73 years old, he's got issues.
43:33
And they put 16 felonies against him.
43:37
And they have zero evidence.
43:38
I have all the evidence.
43:40
They have zero.
43:41
Unbelievable.
43:42
And I went to the courthouse.
43:44
That courthouse I went to, this is the same aftermath.
43:47
And he was there the first time up and I told his lawyer I was going to be there, watch my
43:51
videos and learn what's really going on.
43:53
He saw me in that courtroom.
43:55
I tell this story all the time.
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He looked at me, he walked over to the prosecutor, and they're both whispering,
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talking to me, then they have the judge come down.
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A very old courtroom, the oldest one in California, all wooden thing from the 1800s.
44:08
The three of them are looking at me and whispering.
44:11
Then the judge goes back to his podium, cancels the court case, because I was in that room.
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And no no reason.
44:19
No postponement.
44:19
Just we're just gonna cancel it.
44:21
What?
44:23
Yeah.
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They and that's right there is when I found out these are kangaroo courts.
44:27
I heard the term forever.
44:29
Now I know what they are.
44:30
They're kangaroo courts.
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This guy's done nothing.
44:33
This is the same aftermath.
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No trees burned.
44:35
The needles fell off after the fact.
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They're everywhere.
44:39
Look at your tire.
44:40
Slinky like things.
44:43
Some of my best stuff came from up there.
44:45
This is what your mobile homes look like.
44:47
Even the steel what are those called?
44:50
The steel supports underneath.
44:51
Why are they all bent it up?
44:54
That so the metal got pretty hot also to sway those main beams.
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Those are big beams.
45:02
Yeah, it's an amazing thing when you see all this.
45:07
The nails, bolts, screws, fasteners, hinges, that's what's on fire.
45:11
Anything in close proximity burns.
45:13
The wood won't burn by itself.
45:15
This was a B and B.
45:17
I kept calling up there and I found out from somebody up there, Oh, the place burned to the
45:21
ground.
45:21
Their sign was still there.
45:23
They didn't take that away.
45:24
There's the bolt.
45:25
I didn't know fire likes to be attracted to bolts.
45:28
This piece of wood I have at home, the top piece to a homemade fence, a two by four, eight
45:33
feet long.
45:34
It burned at every nail.
45:36
What the there's your damning evidence right there.
45:39
Right.
45:40
Yeah.
45:40
Wild nails.
45:41
Exactly.
45:42
A a fire a fire has no conscience.
45:45
Right?
45:45
And that's what we know about being around them and doing this.
45:49
Electricity burns that way.
45:50
Being a welder, I see that kind of stuff all the time.
45:53
I've shocked myself in the ass because I'm welding, and I had a hole in my pants.
45:57
And then the electricity jumped right through to my bare skin.
46:01
Right?
46:02
Oh my god.
46:02
I I've experienced this feeling of those things.
46:07
So we're definitely dealing with with something, the electromagnetic for sure.
46:12
And for those of you following along, these are the direct energy weapons that we're talking
46:17
about.
46:17
These are the things that are out there now, like Robert said, the the specific technology
46:23
used in each situation could be completely different.
46:27
Who knows what they're experimenting with out here?
46:29
Oh, oh, and every year, there's another scientist born to work for these evil people.
46:35
This is the next guy, the Park Fire up out of Chico this year, this last year.
46:40
Burned off a lot of acreage, many homes, and they got this guy who has a bad track record
46:45
already.
46:46
They said, Oh, they had a crisis actor on TV.
46:48
She was crying and said, He lit his car on fire and pushed it down the hill.
46:52
That's the car.
46:53
Why are the windows melted out?
46:55
Yeah, nope, she was a crisis actor.
46:58
That's supposedly the car.
47:00
And here you go, coniferous zone or upper foothills starting to get into the pines.
47:08
Digger pines, Ponderosa pines.
47:10
This is a hot area.
47:11
These are average 100 degree days in the summertime in these areas.
47:15
Great.
47:16
A fire that forgot to burn up these trees?
47:20
Oh my gosh.
47:21
And here's the car.
47:22
Looking at the vehicles, where's the fire to start the vehicle on fire in the first place
47:26
unless it was already burning?
47:29
And then why was there no explosion?
47:31
If there's all this fire and you have gasoline in these vehicles, like, why there the none of
47:37
them have exploded?
47:38
None of them have like, there's so much there's so many questions, Robert.
47:43
There's You're right.
47:44
There's there's no dead grass around this at all.
47:46
Nothing.
47:47
And part of me thinks they still might have their gasoline.
47:51
I don't know.
47:52
Next time I go to one, I'm gonna shake the car and listen and see if I hear the gas going back
47:56
and forth.
47:57
We've all done that.
47:58
Like, if there's gas in it, like, And it didn't blow up.
48:02
People wanna say, oh, the gas did this.
48:04
No.
48:05
Well and it's not like
48:07
we have metal gas tanks anymore.
48:09
Most gas tanks are plastic.
48:11
Wow.
48:11
Really?
48:11
Okay.
48:12
I would I would so.
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I mean, I I know the one on my Suburbans from o one, and it's plastic.
48:18
Wow.
48:18
Okay.
48:19
Yeah.
48:20
So same thing.
48:21
Same area.
48:21
Same park fire, they called it.
48:23
The jeep.
48:24
Oh my gosh.
48:25
This is a ponderosa pine forest with, looks like black oaks are starting.
48:29
So we're moving up in altitude.
48:30
Probably 3,000 feet.
48:31
Yeah.
48:32
It burned the pine needles off the ground but what happened to the jeep?
48:35
So, pine needles.
48:35
Aluminum and to run it off like that.
48:38
Right?
48:38
That's crazy.
48:39
That's crazy.
48:41
Flat to the ground?
48:42
Uh-uh.
48:42
And I think that was a trailer over there.
48:45
And the propane tanks are not blown up.
48:47
People are seeing that.
48:48
I've not seen one ripped open.
48:49
They put x's on them and they set them aside.
48:52
I don't think any of the fuel came out of them.
48:54
So that's why I wonder about the vehicles in their gas tanks, especially if it's a plastic
48:58
gas tank.
49:00
Yeah, look at this.
49:01
On the left is a sycamore.
49:02
We have one native sycamore in California.
49:05
California sycamore holds a ton of water.
49:07
I'd love to be there to analyze that tree.
49:10
That's the only one I want to look at.
49:11
See if there's a cavity at the bottom, which I bet there is.
49:15
And it probably is not supposed to grow there, there's a creek to the left.
49:18
It's an extreme water lover.
49:21
Oh, secrets.
49:22
I have secrets.
49:24
I'm just blown away by the I I love that you sneak a few good pictures in there for me to be
49:29
like, ugh.
49:30
You can breathe.
49:31
You have to.
49:32
Like, the world is not all, you know, burning up around us even though it is.
49:36
That's right.
49:37
We took a trip a month ago to the deserts, went around the South Side Of The Sierra and went
49:42
over to Death Valley areas.
49:44
And I found out there's three fires.
49:46
So on the way coming back and out there, I analyzed them.
49:49
Another gray pine or digger pine, our foothill pine, two thirty two homes turned to white ash.
49:56
I saw most of them and they weren't keeping anybody out.
49:59
Anomalies everywhere.
50:00
My gosh, and the public doesn't know it.
50:02
And they said, oh, it's a drunk driver with the car, flew off the road, caught on fire.
50:06
Well, maybe he did, but he didn't burn these homes down, and this pine didn't wanna burn.
50:11
Anomalies everywhere.
50:12
The windshields again, my picture.
50:15
Really?
50:15
In a city by itself, out by the road, there's nothing around it.
50:19
Well, and also it's not like the like, okay.
50:21
So it got so hot that you had some kind of, like, in the glass explodes.
50:27
Right?
50:28
It gets so hot that it there's no remnants of glass.
50:32
It's just gone.
50:34
It's just yeah.
50:35
It doesn't shatter, break, or fall out.
50:36
It melts molds down to the metals, sometimes worse.
50:41
Unbelievable.
50:42
And, of course, I found the bolts.
50:44
Can't hide this stuff.
50:45
And there was a squirrel there.
50:46
Was surprised he was alive, a ground squirrel.
50:48
So he must have gone down deep.
50:51
And this is another Fremont cottonwood, I can tell by the bark.
50:54
Even though the cables were there, and I'm sure that had some play to it, but it burned from
50:59
the inside out where the liquids would be.
51:00
And there was a creek right next to me.
51:03
Oh, I tell you.
51:06
Next to Lone Pine where Mount Whitney is.
51:08
There's my truck over there.
51:09
Okay.
51:10
Mount Whitney, there was a little fire they called the Quality Fire because the Quality Inn
51:14
was half a mile off the road.
51:16
I stopped, got out, 55 acres burned, no homes.
51:19
These were willows, all burned from the inside out and up the branches because they held, they
51:24
hold so much water.
51:26
But the thing that got me is that fence line over there by my truck.
51:29
It's attached, they're all burning.
51:31
It's attached on one whole side with metal, but the thing was burning at three feet high.
51:38
Every post, you'll notice every post is different.
51:41
There's the metal things.
51:43
The attachment points is where all the burning is.
51:46
There's all your 14,000 footers right above you.
51:48
Mount Whitney Dead Center, looks small.
51:52
Three feet up, again and again, I don't have an answer for that.
51:56
Why three feet?
51:58
On the backside, they're attached all the way up and down which was burned here and there but
52:02
at three feet, I don't get it.
52:05
Nails in each one of them.
52:07
Some damning evidence.
52:08
So, know that wasn't natural either.
52:10
It's not hard to figure out.
52:12
He's overweight.
52:15
There's a third fire next to Lone Pine itself.
52:17
A lady had her house in these little cabins you could rent out, and she grows and sells
52:22
lavender plants.
52:24
It likes the granitic soil and the good moisture.
52:27
She lost everything except one house, and I contacted her.
52:30
She didn't trust me, didn't know who I was, and I told her I tried to tell her what it was, and
52:34
I said, you know what, I'm just going to try to get you money to rebuild your place.
52:39
That's the least I can do because I I don't like this injustice.
52:42
She was heartbroken.
52:43
The guardrails, I didn't get it much into those, but they burn where the bolts are, the
52:48
guardrails.
52:49
It's just so consistent.
52:50
Everything that you've showed us has been consistent.
52:53
It burns along the water.
52:55
It burns along your conductors.
52:56
It's not burning like a natural fire.
53:00
This is an electrical current of some sort that is that is burning these things up.
53:07
I I I don't need to see any more evidence to be convinced, and I hope that anyone watching this
53:14
finally can feel the same.
53:17
The the Yeah.
53:17
The evidence is overwhelming.
53:19
Oh, I What about Kyle's
53:20
is it?
53:21
Unnatural.
53:21
I put this on here if anybody wants to help support her, take a picture of it or whatever.
53:28
But you're right.
53:28
The creeks sometimes the the electrical current will go down the creek system and the mud up on
53:34
the sides and go down the creek for a half mile, not come up the bank and keep burning the
53:39
hillsides.
53:40
Stays in the riparian corridor, follows the creek, and I went to one after I met John Lord,
53:46
the fire captain up north, I stayed with him, I wanted to backpacks up this creek, and I
53:51
brought my fishing pole.
53:52
Was using big fish in deep pools.
53:54
There was no fish, no frogs, no turtles, no aquatic insects, no tadpoles, nothing.
54:02
Everything in the water was dead.
54:03
Dead.
54:04
And this was already three years past because the plant life was three feet high already.
54:09
The new brush that grew up and I thought three years, I'm gonna start carrying my butterfly
54:13
net and start searching for any type of insect because there's a lot of I know my aquatic
54:18
insects too.
54:19
But, there was nothing alive.
54:21
It was a sterilized creek.
54:22
I'm glad I didn't drink any of the water.
54:25
Who knows?
54:26
But it sterilized the creek, which was really odd to me.
54:31
Just
54:32
tragic and terrifying and Just
54:36
the things that go through your head when you see this stuff.
54:39
A trailer park in the in our giant delta.
54:41
Sacramento San Joaquin Rivers come down.
54:44
There's an island here with 19 mobile homes that burned up.
54:47
The metal coach is gone.
54:49
The only wood on the property is the steps and the landing.
54:52
They didn't they didn't burn.
54:54
Old looking wood.
54:55
Look at it.
54:56
And this is the other one.
54:57
That's the door frame.
54:58
Open the door and go in your mobile home.
55:01
Why is the wood looking like that?
55:03
On that side of the coach, it's not even black.
55:06
I I the exact it's not even burned.
55:09
That's that's what's it that doesn't happen.
55:13
And all
55:13
the other materials.
55:14
There's other materials here is like, and people wanna tell me, well, the wind was going
55:18
the other way.
55:20
I just I I lost all my friends mostly because they're stupid.
55:24
Yeah.
55:25
Well
55:25
It's just some that's most damning photo I think I have ever took.
55:29
Right.
55:29
I was gonna say you don't need to go past these last two have been the the most clear cut.
55:36
Like, obviously, not of not even a can you even call it a fire?
55:41
Like, are there flames to this as it's happening?
55:45
Right?
55:45
Like, we see embers in different things and, but as these are melting down and and I've seen
55:52
flames off of, you know, my welder as I'm as I'm welding.
55:57
Right?
55:57
Now it's a flame, but not in the natural of it.
56:00
So I have a lot of experience working very closely Oh.
56:05
With electromagnetic things like this.
56:07
It just Oh.
56:09
It's just black and white.
56:10
It's that it's that is there's your there's your guardrails.
56:14
That's what it is.
56:15
Exactly why why I had to have you on our program.
56:18
I've been following you, you know, on Facebook, like I said, through some mutual friends, but I
56:22
I could tell with the pictures you were sharing, with the knowledge that you had that
56:27
you had the key to unlock the door in some of these people's brains to finally show them real
56:33
evidence without any other kind of rhetoric.
56:35
Right?
56:35
We talked for thirty five minutes before we ever brought up anyone anything that you could
56:40
consider a conspiracy theory.
56:42
Right?
56:42
This is just showing you this is a fire fire, but it's it's not in a natural way at all.
56:52
If it was, it would look different, and we can show you the evidence of fires, natural fires.
56:58
It's just it's right here for you people.
57:01
I hope that our listeners and the people watching this and will finally open their eyes
57:06
to the truth and stop believing lies just because somebody said so.
57:13
Don't believe us.
57:14
Don't believe Bubba Startz, and don't believe Robert Brame.
57:17
Believe your eyes when you see the evidence and know in your heart what the truth is.
57:22
That's all we're asking you here.
57:24
This is about the last thing I like to share out.
57:26
John and Matt, the two fire captains of thirty years experience told me they're pulling the
57:30
culverts up a lot in the fire zone.
57:32
Why?
57:33
They're metal.
57:34
They're digging them up.
57:35
These could be four to six or 10 feet underground.
57:37
They're I think they're digging them out because they might be compromised that deep in
57:41
the ground.
57:42
These lasers or whatever they are, are compromising and making them weak and you don't
57:46
want the road to collapse.
57:47
And they're doing this at altitude.
57:49
This is subalpine.
57:50
These are lodgepole pines.
57:51
This is seven, eight thousand feet.
57:53
There's aspen here, it's getting ready to change.
57:55
We don't have forest fires at that altitude, yet they're pulling the pipes out and putting
58:00
in those black plastic ones, corrugated or a big cement pipe.
58:04
I found this at four or five different sites, Right where the the fires crossed the road.
58:10
How about that?
58:11
They did it in paradise.
58:12
The fire was barely out.
58:14
They're changing all the pipes.
58:15
Why is that?
58:16
Normal fire has nothing to do with the pipe underground.
58:20
And more redwoods, same old thing.
58:22
So I can stop at same time you want.
58:25
I've plastic swimming pools, they don't melt either.
58:28
Where's the flying embers?
58:31
These are redwoods.
58:32
Do you
58:32
see a burned one?
58:33
They're dead looking.
58:34
All starting to regenerate.
58:35
But where's those flat flying embers for this plastic swimming pool?
58:40
Right.
58:40
Yeah.
58:41
How do the right Explanations
58:42
that we've been given make any sense at all when you start to look at the amount of
58:47
evidence that you have just shown us, it's it's damning.
58:52
It's very damning, and and the culprit seems seems very while we may not be able to pinpoint
58:59
it, it's obviously electromagnetic.
59:02
Otherwise, it wouldn't be traveling through the conductors the way that it is and Yeah.
59:07
And ignoring the combustibles.
59:09
It just doesn't make any sense.
59:11
And this is everywhere.
59:12
Greece, Hungary, Portugal, China, the 23,000,000 acres they burned in Canada 2023.
59:21
43,000,000 acres.
59:23
I can't fathom that.
59:25
Jasper, a third of the town, Greece, Fort McMurray, Lytton or Lytton, Canada, the great
59:32
Australian fires, the China ones, All of them.
59:35
I mean, the very few exception, and this one, of course, I love it.
59:39
The chainsaw's plastic.
59:40
It didn't wanna burn up like the window and all the tires.
59:43
Nope.
59:44
Not that one.
59:46
Anyway
59:47
Yeah.
59:49
I don't even know what to say.
59:51
I don't even know what to say because it
59:53
Oh, you're a metal shop guy.
59:55
Is a shop.
59:57
Look at the metal shop.
59:58
Why is that pinion pine?
59:59
Those are the pinion nuts we eat near what do you call it, South Of Reno, but a metal shop.
1:00:07
Well, the metals are on fire and the tires in the foreground, opinion pine refused to burn.
1:00:13
What the heck?
1:00:14
Yeah, wherever I go, it's the same.
1:00:16
I wish it'd be normal this is what they're doing.
1:00:19
I got in early.
1:00:20
Gernville, Russian River, they're stealing everything off your property.
1:00:23
These are multiple properties.
1:00:25
They're taking all the bins, the plastics, the wood.
1:00:27
They didn't burn.
1:00:29
And I bet you they did that in Lahaino when they put that fence around it.
1:00:32
I'm sure 10 wheelers were going in there and they were stealing all the evidence.
1:00:36
It's not for your safety.
1:00:38
That's like yeah.
1:00:39
They're always pushing fear and safety down your throat.
1:00:42
This isn't one property.
1:00:43
No way.
1:00:44
It's a staging area.
1:00:45
And your two tallest trees in the world again, and a cedar also.
1:00:48
Oh, no.
1:00:49
Redwood.
1:00:50
They didn't burn.
1:00:51
Nope.
1:00:52
And another pile I found in the Mariposa, they got they got it
1:00:56
together.
1:00:56
Garden hoses.
1:00:57
Yeah.
1:00:58
Garden hose, little plastic pots, and PVC and chairs.
1:01:02
They just get everything together no matter what it is.
1:01:04
I'm sure the fires were afraid of the hoses.
1:01:07
That's what it was.
1:01:08
The black hose going past.
1:01:09
That's some type of PVC.
1:01:11
Right.
1:01:11
Well, and funny, Robert.
1:01:13
I my dad's a landscaper, so I grew up poking that black PVC in the ground.
1:01:18
That's amazing.
1:01:20
Oh, it's
1:01:20
Mommy stops.
1:01:21
And and what we all have to remember that all of these pictures that you've shown tonight,
1:01:26
most of these are people's homes.
1:01:28
These are human beings' homes that have been completely obliterated, not by a natural cause,
1:01:35
by people.
1:01:36
Other humans are perpetuating this, and we need to wake up, right, and to open our eyes and to
1:01:44
realize that the lies are exactly what they are.
1:01:50
They are lies.
1:01:50
They they are we just stop believing.
1:01:54
Stop believing should be the first thing that that we do.
1:01:57
Right?
1:01:57
If you're out there and you think that work or believe your own eyes.
1:02:02
Believe what you've been shown tonight in this presentation.
1:02:04
We're not asking you to believe us.
1:02:06
Yeah.
1:02:07
Believe your own eyes and what you're seeing and ask yourself.
1:02:11
Ask yourself if you can someone's home burned down behind them.
1:02:15
Their children will never play there again.
1:02:17
Their children will never live in that home.
1:02:19
And and that's the real tragedy that, you know, LA is gonna go through now is because here
1:02:24
comes BlackRock with the payouts because, oh, sorry.
1:02:27
Your home wasn't insured for a fire.
1:02:29
That's
1:02:29
right.
1:02:29
And that's the play.
1:02:30
That was the play in Lahaina.
1:02:32
That's been the play along all of these places.
1:02:34
And when you follow the maps of the smart cities and the new Olympic range and you can't
1:02:41
you can't deny it anymore.
1:02:42
They I don't think that they can deny it anymore.
1:02:45
No.
1:02:47
The city of Greenville by Mount Lassen, our most southern volcano, the whole city was gone.
1:02:53
All that's left was a gas station and a food store, and all the plastic garbage cans were
1:02:58
taken away, but I found a couple brand new ones.
1:03:01
Plastics everywhere, hidden behind walls, they didn't see them.
1:03:05
The fire truck, that was like 09:11.
1:03:08
That's what I remember.
1:03:09
Like, what does that to a fire truck?
1:03:12
And the background, this is the great Dixie fire by itself was almost a million acres.
1:03:16
Trees are all dead, but I can't say they're burned up.
1:03:20
Mid conifer zone.
1:03:21
This is where you would have your worst firestorms.
1:03:24
They didn't burn up.
1:03:25
Uh-uh.
1:03:26
Show me.
1:03:27
The whole town, gone.
1:03:30
That one too, same area.
1:03:32
They just refused to burn.
1:03:34
The whole homes, it's rare to find any black.
1:03:37
I have to really look around unless the fire department got there quick enough, you find a
1:03:41
little bit black navy.
1:03:44
Yeah.
1:03:44
These are the last few and I'm about done.
1:03:47
You want me to stop the screenshot?
1:03:48
No.
1:03:48
No.
1:03:48
No.
1:03:48
Just give if you only got a few more, let's get through the rest of them.
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Nails, these are all different fires.
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I'm always looking for the post, the nails, a walnut orchard.
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All the trees were English walnut, ungrafted, burned from the inside out at the bottom.
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Look at the field.
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The cows eat the grass again or they mow it.
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There's no combustion here.
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Why is this burning internally?
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This is horrific.
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Some, the trees were gone and the stump had a hole in the ground.
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And all there is is short grass.
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Nothing else.
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I think that might be it.
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That's it right there.
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Osprey.
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Yeah.
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Robert, I I thank you so much for for joining our program and sharing, you know, your your
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knowledge and your experiences.
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I mean, you've seen these places firsthand.
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You've been there.
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You've been documenting this stuff for almost twenty years now or more.
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I just hope that this changes it's not gonna change the world, but awareness will will
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change some minds.
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And once we kind of hopefully hit a a critical mass to that, that we can start to affect some
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real change.
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Because Yeah.
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This is human beings doing this to human beings.
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This isn't God doing this to human beings.
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This isn't nature taking its course.
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There are human beings behind these things, and there needs to be accountability.
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And until we start to effectuate some of the, you know, the group collective consciousness
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and start to activate that on a wider scale, then there really is no we're they're gonna
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burn us all alive.
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They're gonna vaporize us all just like everything that you've shown us tonight.
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They have to we have to wake up the masses before we can do anything about it because
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right now, they hold all the cards.
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They're attacking us every continent, every country pretty much.
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I don't know how we're gonna combat this, but we gotta wake up everybody first and educate
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them what's going on.
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Then we can find out the people building the parts, operating the systems, arming it.
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You know, there's a lot of people involved in this.
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It's not just a few people.
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Millions of people are involved.
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Just like that day, twenty four years ago in New York.
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It wasn't just a handful of people orchestrated for a long time.
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Yeah.
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Just gotta educate.
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I educate people every single day.
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I I have a flyer.
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I didn't take a picture of it for you with my tenant.
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You can send it to me, and we'll definitely include it in the show when we go to post it.
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I'm gonna turn this around real quick because we can't hang on to this stuff.
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Do you wanna go ahead and and just kinda plug anywhere where people can get ahold of you?
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They can contact you to to give a presentation in their town.
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I know you've been very busy delivering these things at churches and educating people in real
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life Yes.
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I am.
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To gather them.
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So go ahead and share whatever you can.
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I don't know how to put my email on there, but the best thing to see any of my 25 videos now
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is type in anywhere on your computer, forensic arborist Robert.
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Those three words will come up on anywhere, just any and Rumble is one of the best, so is
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DuckDuckGo and Yandex.
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Google and YouTube, they kinda watch what I'm doing.
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But the other ones, wow.
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Even my smallest videos or town hall meetings, they're on those.
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Rumble's pretty good.
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I don't really wanna give out my email because I'll get inundated in two
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Yeah.
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We don't wanna do that, but definitely checking out the rumble.
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Once again, go ahead and and tell us your name on there one more time.
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Robert Brame, forensic arborist.
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Fifty years of analyzing plants, at least in California, and many introduced plants from
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around the world in our neighborhoods.
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It's just that's been my fun for half a century now.
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And and I thank God for your love of the plant life and the fauna and all those years that you
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spent before any of this out there.
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Once again, documenting natural the way that things are naturally occurring.
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Right?
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Because without that basis, anyone could look at what's happening now and go, well, that's
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the way that it's always been.
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No.
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It hasn't.
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Here here's the truth.
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And I I just appreciate you so much for coming on our program today and sharing with us, and I
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hope that as things move forward that we get to talk a lot more often.
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My sure.
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