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#323: Final Destination 3 (2006) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  What the fuck is a Bruin anyway? We're going to watch Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie, The podcast where we talk about the
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  good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite.
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  And least favorite scary movie? Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  We don't always get. It my name is Travis.
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  My name is. Jesse and welcome everybody.
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  We're talking Final Destination again this week.
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  So much. That's right.
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  And we've made it all all the way up to three.
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  We're talking about Final Destination 3 today.
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  That's right, the roller coaster one.
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  Before we get into any of that, do you have any announcements?
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  OK, so bubby to patrons, your voting should be out at some
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  point this week, if it's not already.
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  Yeah, same with your bonus episode that'll be out before
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  the end of the weekend. Yeah, we'll have it out.
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  Yeah. We don't know what it's gonna be
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  yet, but it's gonna be there. Yep, Yep, Yep.
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  Also, we had to be or not to be out this weekend.
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  We talked about the 1988 adaptation of Dean Koontz's
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  Watchers. Yeah, it was a good time, yeah.
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  We had a good time with it. Talia did not.
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  But it's OK, yeah. Yeah.
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  So go listen to that if you want to know why Talia he did it and
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  why we loved it. Or maybe not loved it, but you
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  know, we we enjoyed it. Yeah.
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  Go find out. Or maybe we didn't.
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  Yeah, you don't know until you do.
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  All right. Well, hey, I do have a poll.
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  Oh. My God, you did a.
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  Poll, I did it last second and 100% credit goes to Ward Zombie,
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  who reached out and said if you guys aren't making the poll
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  truth or dare, then what are you doing?
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  I was like, fuck yeah, that's actually a great idea.
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  Yeah, so it's truth or dare. What the fuck were we doing?
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  Or zombie? Thank you.
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  So it's ongoing currently. So this is gonna be one that is
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  gonna have live updates. Yeah.
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  So for now, it's 33% truth, 67% there.
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  We'll check back in on that towards the end of this episode.
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  For me it 100% matters, the group I'm with, what I'm
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  choosing. That's true.
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  It's very, very some. Friends.
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  Chaos Grandmas. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, yeah. You don't want to get into
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  trouble, and you don't want to say something that you don't
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  want to say. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, it's, it's risky, but generally truth because, well,
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  risk. OK.
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  What about you? You had a big one.
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  If we're in a group where I'm the most chaotic gremlin, I'm
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  going to pick dare. OK, but if there are more
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  chaotic gremlins than I, I will pick Truth.
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  OK, that's understandable. All right.
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  It also kind of probably depends on how many drinks have flown at
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  that point. That's a big factor for me also.
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  Yeah, OK, so let's talk about Final Destination 3.
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  Final Destination 3 released February 10th, 2006.
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  We watched it on our DVD, and if you would like to watch it, as
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  of January 2026, you cannot stream it right now.
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  Surprisingly, that was a huge shock to me because it's lived
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  on HBO for like. Several months, yeah.
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  Yeah, and it's just not there anymore.
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  It's nowhere to be streamed, but you can rent it.
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  You can rent it on Plex Prime, Apple TV, YouTube, or Fandango
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  at home. Or maybe you can get really
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  lucky like us and go to Half Price Books and find the version
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  of the DVD where you can choose your fate.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's a cool thing that we're going to be talking
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  about this episode. We have the DVD where you can
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  choose your own fate, which does change some of the outcomes of
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  the movie here. It's really interesting and
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  we're going to get into all of the possible scenarios.
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  Very. Soon.
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  Unfortunately we have played it so many times that like we
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  basically know what the. I still don't, well, I, I know
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  what the different stuff is. I don't know how to get there
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  anymore. Like, I, I still don't remember
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  how, like what to choose to get what.
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  But we're going to go over all all of that here shortly.
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  Written by Glenn Morgan and James Wong, Directed by James
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  Wong, music by Shirley Walker and special effects makeup by
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  Toby Lindala with Meteor Studios who did the roller coaster
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  opening stuff and then Digital Dimension who did all of the
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  post premonition deaths. Starring Mary Elizabeth Winstead
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  as Wendy, Ryan Merriam as Kevin, Chris Limchi as McKinley, Alexis
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  Johnson as Aaron, Sam Easton as Frankie, Jesse Moss as Jason,
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  Gina Holden as Carrie, Texas Battle as Lewis, Shelan Simmons
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  as Ashley Young K Crystal Woe as Ashley and Amanda Crew as.
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  One of them Ashley. One of them is Ashley.
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  I thought they were both. Ashwin's No, it's Ashley and
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  Ashlyn. Then I think it's Yonke Crystal.
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  Who's Ashlyn? OK, I think so.
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  Don't quote me on that, but I the entire time I've I've had
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  them as the Ashley's. No, the Ashes, Ashley and
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  Ashlyn. Well, you decide.
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  It's up to you, the listener. Who Who is who?
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  All right, time for a favorite game on the show, Budget or
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  budgeted? Oh, this feels budgety to me.
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  Yeah, this is big budgety. This is $25 million.
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  Yeah, pretty big chunk of change.
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  It's OK. It made the back opening box
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  office was 20 million worldwide gross 118 million.
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  One of these days, I would like for the gross to be 180 million.
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  Just stop. Like if it ever hits 1 to 80 at
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  the box office, like stop it. It's like pull it from theaters.
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  That's when you're on like a Reddit thread and the number of
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  of votes is like a perfect number and you're like, I can't.
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  Can't. I can't touch it.
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  I can't do anything with this right now, it's too perfect.
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  IMDb score 5.9 Now it's in which I feel is a little rude.
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  All right, so I have 3 movies from 2006 that we can compare
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  this to. Oh boy, I'm very nervous with
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  2006. You know, I think I got a pretty
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  cool thing. OK, so we had three movies in
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  2026 here that basically are like predictions of deaths for
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  the movie in this. OK yeah.
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  So I think that's kind of cool. I can more premonitions here,
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  right here. So movie #1 Dark Ride which is
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  about people going to an amusement park and there's a
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  psychopath there that kills them.
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  Yep. Yeah, that's released October
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  20th, 2006. Don't have the budget but it
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  made $321,000 at the box office. IMDb 4.6.
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  OK. Movie number 25 across the eyes
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  because of the nail gun that shoots her all over the face.
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  She's got at least 5 nails in her face right there.
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  At least 5 that released October question mark.
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  No date but October, October 2006.
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  It was like a couple minutes a day.
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  Yeah. You watched 3 Minutes on October
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  for use, Yeah. This was a $4000 budget.
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  Wow. Filmed very close to where both
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  of us grew up. I think it's like a middle
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  point. It's down in Tennessee, like a
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  halfway point between where my hometown is and your hometown
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  is, but it's a very close drive to us.
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  What town think? It was like Morristown or
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  something like that. And yeah, don't have a gross for
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  it but an IMDb of 2.6 OK not so great.
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  Final movie Ghost Train that released September 30th 2006.
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  Don't have the budget but it made 1.8 million at the box
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  office. IMDb 4.9 OK and only one
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  tagline. This ride will be the death of
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  you. It's kind of generic.
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  It's a little lame. It's a little generic, but I
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  guess it works. I can't remember if the other
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  found on destination movies were good.
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  Like did we have an abundance of taglines?
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  I feel like these have been like low tagline.
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  Yeah. I feel like they've been kind of
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  disappointing, yeah, in terms. Of tagline.
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  It's a little upsetting, but that's OK.
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  We can move on to fun facts. Yeah, having some fun, fun
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  facts. Me too.
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  So this was the first one that did not have Jeffrey Reddick
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  involved. He detached from it, so they
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  moved on without him. They envisioned this one to be a
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  stand alone versus a direct sequel like they did with the
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  second one. So they wanted it to be its own
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  story and that way they can explore their own characters and
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  their own scenarios and stuff, not be tethered to all that
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  stuff. Because I can imagine that could
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  be kind of complicated to keep going with the original cast,
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  like all the connections with all these people over the years,
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  especially once they die. So the idea of the roller
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  coaster opening came from one of the new line execs, Richard
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  Bryner did not come from any of the riders.
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  OK, which was kind of cool. The original title of the movie
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  was gonna be called Cheating Death Final Destination 3.
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  I'm glad it wasn't. I am too.
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  It's a. Little too cheesy.
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  It was also gonna be 3D, but they cut that for budget reasons
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  and also practical reasons because they're like, I don't
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  know how fire and death stuff like that's gonna fare with 3D
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  technology. Yeah, so they decided against
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  it. Wendy was originally going to be
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  a perky blonde character, but whenever they did the casting,
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  Mary Elizabeth Winstead kind of had her own vibe that they
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  liked. So they had to completely retool
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  the character and they made her more of like a control freak,
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  like a stressed out person. Is that a character trait of
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  hers? Is she a control freak?
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  I don't feel like we mentioned that.
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  See, and The thing is, they mentioned so many times, like
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  they're like, we wanted the theme to be lack of control.
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  Like, yeah, we fucking get it. You guys stayed it like outright
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  several times. Yeah, there's no subtlety to it.
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  Yeah, Well, the reason that they do that is because, like,
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  they're, they consulted psychologists are like, yeah,
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  the reason people are afraid of roller coasters is because they
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  have no control. Like.
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  Oh. So we got to hammer people over
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  the head. With the yeah, that way they
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  understand. So here's a funny situation.
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  Aaron's actor, you know, the goth, and that's right here.
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  She originally auditioned for Julie's role.
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  Oh, really? Julie's actor originally
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  auditioned for Aaron's role. To be fair, Julie's actor in
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  Mary Elizabeth Winstead it look all of sisters.
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  Yeah, well, apparently what's still the deal for for Alexis to
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  be Aaron is because she came in for a second reading and she was
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  in a bad mood. And they they saw her dry humor
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  and sarcasm shine through whenever she was like that.
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  Like, you're perfect for the character.
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  Like, so they cast her right there for that.
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  OK, they spent the first two weeks of filming entirely on the
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  roller coasters. Opening took 144 video effect
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  shots filmed with coasters on the set with the green screen.
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  So they actually built that there and that's how they did
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  that. And then they also filmed that
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  an actual amusement park in Canada, which is where it's was
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  filmed. If you can't tell, this is a
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  very Canadian. Film.
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  Well, there are also some very like I feel like you can tell by
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  some of the screams which parts were done on actual roller
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  coaster versus which ones weren't.
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  Cuz Mary Elizabeth Winstead at one point has an absolutely
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  primal screen that I relate to in the hardest way.
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  So like, I know that the DVD we have doesn't have the behind the
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  scenes stuff, but I've seen the behind the scenes stuff about
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  because. We've watched it together.
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  Yeah, yeah. And even on the set that they
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  designed there for the green screen thing, it looks scary
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  like they had the like shit hung up on bungee cords.
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  Oh my God. Like, I mean, not like all of
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  this stuff, but like, I think like when they were doing some
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  of like, the coasters falling off, like that was bungee cords
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  just like tying it, like keeping it there.
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  Like, yeah, like I imagine that would be a very stressful set to
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  work on, regardless if you're on the actual roller coaster or if
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  you're on the makeshift one that they did test audiences did not
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  like the original ending of the movie.
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  They ended up re filming it. It was originally planned to
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  end. Oh, I mean, they were originally
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  did end at the tricentennial thing.
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  So like after all of that was done, that was it.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  Which I can understand why that would be disappointing.
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  So they ended up re filming the other ending, the one that we go
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  with the train. However, that was also supposed
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  to go differently too. So I know that they said that
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  this was supposed to be its own stand alone thing, but the
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  original idea was for Wendy, Julie and Kevin all to enter the
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  train and while they were there they would bump into Kimberly
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  and Burke from Final Destination 2.
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  And it was going to be revealed that Kimberly is their cousin,
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  Julie and Wendy's cousin. And this was all going to be
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  death's way to tie up all the Lucents and kill them all at the
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  same time right there. Because they were the only
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  survivors of found Destination too.
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  OK. But the reason they didn't go
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  forward with it was because 1 actor was not able to film.
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  They didn't specify which actor it was, and they didn't want to
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  go killing, like just all of them except for one, because
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  they thought that that made Death's plan.
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  Like it would kind of poke a hole in it because like, it
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  didn't get all of them. Yeah, well, AJ Cook was on
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  Criminal Minds and Martin, Martin Landis, Michael Andis.
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  Yeah. He like is a steady worker too,
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  so I wouldn't be surprised with it being either of them.
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  Yeah, so that's why we end up getting her college friends and
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  stuff on the train. Like she, like they replaced
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  those two characters in there. I think that's also probably
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  good cuz this is the only one without really any adults so.
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  You're right, yeah. Yeah, to not bring in these
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  random adult characters at the very end.
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  They do explain their fates though, and it's like a deleted
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  scene type thing that Burke and Kimberly.
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  A newspaper article seen in the special feature reveals that
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  Kimberly Corman and Officer Thomas Burke died when they ran
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  into each other at Goldstein's Hardware, a Camaro owned by Evan
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  Lewis. The victim from Final
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  Destination 2 rolled down a hill and crashed into the front of
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  the store. The two attempted to escape from
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  the rear, only to meet their fate at the hands of a wood
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  chipper. Kimberly's coat got caught.
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  Thomas attempted to savor. Both were pulled into the wood
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  chipper. The wood chipper was owned by
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  Rodger Gibbons, whose son died at the end of Final Destination
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  2. And a lot of people bring this
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  up when they talk about Final Destination 6.
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  Yeah. Cuz they're like this.
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  This is if you include this in the special features, then it
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  becomes a plot hole in Bloodlines because she's
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  supposed to be the only survivor.
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  Yep, yeah, cuz they do confirm in that movie that she is the
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  only survivor. Yeah.
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  So I don't know, it's like a pick your like I'm gonna choose
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  a blue. She survived.
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  Yeah, but Burke, like, yeah, but we didn't.
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  I guess he could die in a wood chipper if he wants to.
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  OK, so that should be it for the fun facts.
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  We can go over all of the fates, but I figured it probably would
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  be best to talk about those as they happen in the movie.
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  I think so. I think it makes a little bit
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  more sense to do it that. Way.
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  Yeah. So that's what we're gonna do.
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  So we're gonna explore all the possibilities.
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  Who survives, who doesn't, how things go.
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  And before we do that, we're gonna just do our other stuff.
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  We're gonna do the good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  So, Jesse, kick it off. What do you like about this?
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  OK, before we start all of this, I recognize that this is
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  probably your favorite in the series.
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  Break my heart. I know.
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  Go ahead, you gotta do. It I just wanna say I love you.
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  Yeah, I think this one is a lot of fun, but I think it's like
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  fun trash. OK, really.
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  Yeah, yeah. And I'll, I'll get into that in
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  a little bit more. I've it's got some of my
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  favorite, like it's got my second favorite line in horror
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  behind sleep away camp threes. So you're underprivileged, which
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  is No, that's three. Yeah.
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  Which is when they're at Lewis's training camp and they're saying
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  fuck the Bruins and there's one extra in the background who goes
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  what the fuck is a Bruin anyway? And when I went to the Goal Over
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  America tour with my mom, because some of the gymnasts are
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  UCLA alum and I, it took every ounce of control in my body not
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  to show. What the fuck is A brewing
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  anyway? What the fuck is a brewing?
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  I don't even know. I think it's a it's a bear.
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  Oh, I look this up. OK, OK, so it's got that.
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  And it's also got McKinley saying that like, there are
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  worse people that are are still alive and didn't die young like
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  pimps and vice presidents. Dude, like apparently I was
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  reading about that. He had to like the Wong, James
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  Wong gave him like stuff to like look up secure, like read into
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  this. This is the stuff that your
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  character actually is like going to be quoted on and like
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  research it like that way, you know, so he actually like did
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  his own research and all that stuff.
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  Cool. I was going to say I actually
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  like McKinley a lot, like the way he's written, because you
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  would expect him to not like characters like Ashley and
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  Ashlyn. That that whole speech that he's
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  doing at the funeral, he's saying like these two girls who
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  didn't do shit to anybody like you, you would think he would be
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  the type that would like think they're dumb and ditzy and not
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  really worth much, but like. I think he still understands.
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  Like, in the grand scheme of things, they're not bad people.
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  Yeah, but I don't think he likes them.
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  I also think there are 50% of the script I think is really
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  well written. So stuff like that, Wendy's
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  moment, like when her and Kevin are looking at the pictures and
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  they see a picture of Carrie and they both get sad and she's
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  like, I guess we're just going to have moments like that the
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  rest of our lives because that like, I mean, if you've ever
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  grieved someone, lost somebody, there are just like random
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  things that will come out of nowhere and hit you like a gut
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  punch. And you're like months or years
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  down the line, I think you're doing OK.
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  And then something will happen and you're just like, oh, shit.
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  Like it's just, you know, if it's somebody really important
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  to you that you're just going to have those reminders around you
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  all the time. So I thought that that was like
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  a really nice and poignant moment.
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  Obviously, I'm going to always fucking love any young K Crystal
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  Low. I'm just going to go ahead and
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  say it. I think she is our generation's
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  Linnea Quigley. She kind of is.
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  Because she just pops up in random horror movies and she's
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  always down to show off her boobies.
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  Comedy soon? Yeah.
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  Yeah, she's just I, I love seeing her.
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  I think she's a good actress. I think she knows exactly what
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  her type of role is and she just does a good job.
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  And I'm always happy when she's on the screen.
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  And we also got Texas Battle. We're we're now 2 for three of
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  our Texas Battle 3 peat movie trilogy.
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  Someday we will talk about the tasks that way you all can
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  enjoy. Oh my God, the Texas Battle
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  trilogy with us. Yeah, that marathon that we did
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  that one day. So, and then like I said a
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  little bit earlier, I was, I also think it's really
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  interesting that this is the only one in the franchise that
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  is like an adult free movie. Yeah, I think, yeah, I actually
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  had never even realized that myself until you just pointed
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  that out. Yeah, so, and and I don't know
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  how much it necessarily changes other than when you think about
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  like adults are mentioned a lot. And technically, yeah, they did
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  all to graduate high school, but it's it's different.
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  Yeah. So.
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  All right, what do you like about it?
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  I man, I, I don't know, like, I like this one a lot.
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  I I don't know, like, I the thing that I like the most about
• 19:11
  this is I like how they handle the premonitions this time
• 19:14
  around. I like the idea of it being
• 19:16
  through pictures and like that's like a really cool thing to do.
• 19:19
  Like that was like AI, like that's like a plot line.
• 19:22
  Like they have that to go on. They're not like getting all
• 19:25
  these like random like things happening throughout that are
• 19:27
  clues of what's going to happen. Like they have like this
• 19:30
  interesting new way to investigate what's coming up.
• 19:33
  I like that a lot. I like I I, I liked a lot of the
• 19:36
  deaths that happened in this movie.
• 19:39
  They were creative like the the tanning bed one like that's.
• 19:42
  Did that transition from the tanning beds to their graves?
• 19:45
  Yeah, this is so well done. But again, like, I mean, they
• 19:47
  were also like, one of the things that I like about this
• 19:50
  series is when they have like, their relatable deaths, they
• 19:52
  always make you paranoid in your daily life.
• 19:55
  And that's one of those things. I mean, tanning beds not quite
• 19:58
  as common now. I think people have started to
• 20:00
  realize that. Tanning beds have started to
• 20:02
  realize that they actually can be a cause of death, although
• 20:04
  maybe not necessarily really in a big flame engulfing manner.
• 20:08
  Yeah, but don't you tell me after watching this movie, if
• 20:11
  you've ever gotten one of those things you were not thinking
• 20:13
  about that moment. I could never relax at that
• 20:17
  point in my life when I was singing.
• 20:19
  I can never relax. I'd constantly like be poking my
• 20:21
  head out making sure there's nothing that's going to fall on
• 20:24
  the bed like. Roller coaster, same thing.
• 20:26
  That's always a high stress moment anyways, but just the
• 20:29
  idea of it going off the rails is terrifying.
• 20:32
  Yeah. I, I, I don't know, like, I
• 20:35
  mean, other than the things you've touched on, I just like,
• 20:38
  I just like this movie, man. It has a charm to it.
• 20:40
  I I like the characters, I like the deaths.
• 20:43
  I like the premonition. I mean again, this is another
• 20:46
  one that gives us 2 big events. I used to think that 4 was the
• 20:51
  one that had two, like they had the starting one at the NASCAR
• 20:54
  place and then they had the the mall.
• 20:57
  But this one right here the. 4th one, we have a little bit more
• 21:00
  time with the second premonition.
• 21:01
  That's true but at the same time like that ending is fucking
• 21:05
  awesome with the train and stuff like that.
• 21:06
  Like you get 2 of them in this even.
• 21:08
  And it just, it cuts to black and you hear the crash and then
• 21:11
  the credits and it's, that's chilling.
• 21:14
  Yeah, it is. Yeah.
• 21:15
  I don't know, man. Like, I I guess I get why people
• 21:19
  people wouldn't like this one quite as much, but this one is
• 21:21
  probably one of my favorites in the entire franchise.
• 21:23
  It just like captures a lot of the things that I like in these
• 21:26
  types of movies. OK, All right, well tell me
• 21:28
  what's bad about it then all. Right.
• 21:30
  Well, like I said, 50% of the script is really poignant.
• 21:33
  Yeah. And then the other 50%, I think
• 21:35
  it's the worst written dialogue in the entire franchise.
• 21:37
  OK? It's just bad and not how humans
• 21:41
  talk. All right.
• 21:44
  Oh, what are you going to do about it, Miss?
• 21:46
  Cutest couple. Rah rah.
• 21:49
  Yeah, I know that that's a really shitty line.
• 21:52
  I could come back from her, but like, I think that that's still
• 21:54
  kind of true for especially high schoolers.
• 21:57
  Oh, SpongeBob, he lives under the sea.
• 22:00
  It's so sad that you know that. Yeah, that was dumb.
• 22:04
  Everything Frankie Cheeks says beyond him just being a sex
• 22:07
  fest. He's like A1 dimensional and not
• 22:09
  really well written. No, I think the guy did his best
• 22:13
  with what he was given though. Oh, I think all of the actors
• 22:16
  did a good job with what they were given.
• 22:17
  Some of his delivery was really funny as like like when he's
• 22:21
  like at the like in the line for the the roller coasters like
• 22:25
  yeah, you see this right here and got it from the what you
• 22:27
  McCall game. Wacky Ladder.
• 22:30
  Yeah, I just I like, you know, he's like, yeah, took it.
• 22:33
  It's like that right there is funny.
• 22:35
  I he's a shitty character and I don't like him, but that guy had
• 22:39
  some really funny delivery with some of his.
• 22:41
  Yeah, it just everything, all the problems that I see people
• 22:45
  online say they have with the 4th movie, I'm like, you could
• 22:48
  say the same thing about the third.
• 22:51
  One man, I just don't see it. I don't see.
• 22:54
  It man I just and it just it's so distracting to me.
• 22:58
  I will say though, that like sitting down and taking the
• 23:00
  notes did make me appreciate the good parts of the script a lot
• 23:03
  more. OK but the bad just still stick
• 23:06
  out so bad and like it's just they're there's no subtlety in
• 23:12
  this movie at all. Like, like I said, they beat us
• 23:17
  over the fucking head with the fact that Wendy's a control
• 23:20
  freak. Yeah, I get that.
• 23:22
  Yeah, it's a little bit weak in that regard.
• 23:24
  So it's just, it's just a little rough for me.
• 23:27
  OK, my only bet is we don't get like, actual physical Tony Todd.
• 23:33
  Yeah, he doesn't show up as Bloodworth.
• 23:35
  We get him as the the voice of the roller coaster demon.
• 23:39
  But that's it. Also the train station boys at
• 23:41
  the end. Yes, OK.
• 23:43
  And they did name one of the cops Bloodworths.
• 23:46
  I saw that, Yeah. I thought that was weird.
• 23:48
  I don't like that. Like only one Bloodworth.
• 23:50
  Please don't. Don't do that.
• 23:53
  Ugly. Obviously.
• 23:54
  Frankie Cheeks. That's all I wrote to.
• 23:56
  He's a sexy pet. He's a sexy.
• 23:58
  Pet. He's a sexy pet.
• 23:59
  Yeah, he's a sex pest. Also, unfortunately, while we do
• 24:05
  have the what the fuck is a Bruin anyway?
• 24:08
  Somebody at the gym also uses an F slur.
• 24:12
  Yeah, and that like and it's just in the background and you
• 24:15
  probably wouldn't hear it, but we watch with captions.
• 24:17
  So that's gross. Yeah, that is, I agree with both
• 24:21
  of those. OK, are you absurd?
• 24:25
  So they're at senior night at a theme park, right?
• 24:28
  And it seems reasonably close to graduation, yes.
• 24:32
  Yeah. That's that's, I mean, we don't
• 24:34
  get an exact timeline of how long happens between the
• 24:37
  accident and graduation, but it seems relatively close.
• 24:40
  They describe them as well, they can't be graduates because
• 24:44
  they're at school but like. No, it's it's the last day of
• 24:47
  school. That was the last day.
• 24:48
  OK, That's what I thought. OK.
• 24:50
  And they're seniors because it was senior night at the theme
• 24:52
  park. So Wendy is taking the pictures
• 24:56
  and she says I have to turn this in tomorrow for the yearbook.
• 25:00
  But if it's already the end of the school year, the yearbook
• 25:03
  has already been made and printed and sold.
• 25:05
  Oh my God. Yeah, I.
• 25:08
  Hadn't even thought of. That Yeah.
• 25:10
  So what the fuck is this timeline and what the fuck is it
• 25:13
  ruin anyway? I like, OK, yeah, yeah, that,
• 25:19
  that just every single time that happens, I'm like, what is the,
• 25:21
  what is the, what is the goddamn timeline?
• 25:24
  What is happening here? Man, I hadn't even thought about
• 25:26
  that but yeah, blew the whole plot wide.
• 25:30
  Open right there. Ruined it.
• 25:31
  Ruined it. All ruined.
• 25:33
  It OK what's your truth? Like at the end, like we we
• 25:39
  haven't revealed that there were two extra people on the roller
• 25:43
  coaster they were trying to figure out.
• 25:44
  It is one of them is Julie and then the other one is this other
• 25:47
  person that just does not get a fucking name.
• 25:49
  Perry. OK, Perry is her name, but do
• 25:51
  they even see it in the movie? Yeah, because she says it's
• 25:54
  either somebody or Perry. And then she dies.
• 25:56
  Yeah, we get. She doesn't even get dialogue.
• 25:59
  We just get this one person, just.
• 26:00
  Randomly and goes. Home and just boom right through
• 26:03
  her. Like, it's just that was funny
• 26:05
  to me that like we have this one person should be a pretty big
• 26:08
  part of the story here, but she just kills like gets killed off
• 26:11
  so unceremoniously, unceremoniously.
• 26:14
  Unceremoniously, yes, I like that.
• 26:19
  It's just funny to me. I also like in the beginning
• 26:21
  when Kevin, his actor, I feel like this showed the theater kid
• 26:28
  and the actor there. Whenever that random dudes goes
• 26:30
  up to dance with them and he like hops up, he gets some
• 26:33
  fucking air and he claps those two feet together there.
• 26:36
  I'm like that dudes trained. Dudes that can do that love
• 26:39
  showing off their ability to do that.
• 26:42
  That's theater, kid. I have never known a person that
• 26:45
  can do that that I haven't seen them do it multiple times.
• 26:48
  Well, I mean, come on, man. It's an incredible skill.
• 26:50
  It has to be seen. It's a sight to behold.
• 26:53
  I can do it. Can you?
• 26:55
  How come you've never done it, you just disproved?
• 27:01
  I said, dudes, you can do that. We'll show it off every time.
• 27:04
  Touché I usually use dude as a like a all.
• 27:08
  No, I meant no, this is gender specific OK?
• 27:11
  This is not gender inclusive dude.
• 27:13
  This is. Well, I, you know, I'm going to
• 27:16
  just prove you right because if I were, if I had that ability of
• 27:21
  Oh yeah, like when we were talking about in watchers in our
• 27:26
  TV or not to be like jumping through the door, hip checking
• 27:28
  the door to get out. I'd be doing that on my way out
• 27:30
  of all of the doors doing that like down steps.
• 27:34
  Yeah, like, fuck. Yeah.
• 27:36
  OK, All right, let's trade it. I still, like I said, as bad as
• 27:40
  I think some of the dialogue is, and there's some very real
• 27:43
  problems that I have with it, I think it's fun.
• 27:46
  I also love Saw Seven, so this is my taste in movies.
• 27:49
  I think it's great, it's enjoyable.
• 27:51
  I'm going to give it an 8. Damn dude I hate this movie but
• 27:55
  it's amazing. It's a name.
• 27:56
  No, it's garbage and I love it. OK, I I guess I can understand.
• 28:01
  I love this movie man. It's one of it.
• 28:03
  Like might be the one I enjoy the most to.
• 28:05
  Watch it's kind of like, you know, there's always movies that
• 28:10
  you could like if you were going to try and suggest one that you
• 28:12
  think like I needed cheering up. You have movies that you would
• 28:15
  pick for me. This is 1.
• 28:16
  I would always pick for you. Yeah, it's like it's my it's my
• 28:20
  go to in the franchise. I think I got to give it a 10
• 28:23
  OK. So our starting average is A9.
• 28:25
  All right, I I can live with that.
• 28:27
  OK, OK, let's get into it then. OK, so we start off, we just
• 28:33
  we've got opening credits over top of a fairgrounds, a theme
• 28:37
  park. Yeah.
• 28:39
  It's I wrote Carnival, but like the Devil's Flight is an actual
• 28:42
  built. It's an actual they have filmed
• 28:44
  this at an actual amusement park.
• 28:45
  I mean I've always gotten carnival vibes when watching
• 28:49
  this, but it. Thank you.
• 28:50
  It's an amusement park for the movie's sake, I.
• 28:52
  Assume it's one of of those things that, like, if you live
• 28:54
  like, I was supposed to have lunch with my friends today who
• 28:57
  grew up in Cincinnati, and I was gonna ask her if they did Senior
• 29:02
  nights, things like that at Kings Island.
• 29:04
  Yeah, yeah. Kings Island is such a bigger
• 29:06
  place like. It is much bigger than what this
• 29:08
  place looks like. Yeah, this.
• 29:09
  Looks like a fair, but either way it's the yeah part yeah?
• 29:13
  We cut into one of those, the drop towers, and it's called the
• 29:17
  high dive, but the V is like flickering in and out, so it
• 29:20
  looks like it says high dye. Yeah, she takes a picture of it
• 29:22
  for Sun right there. They get they have coaster
• 29:25
  passes for 9:15. More places should have roller
• 29:27
  coaster passes. Was it?
• 29:29
  What would that be? Like you have like a timeline
• 29:32
  for when you go and get in line. I think Disney does that with
• 29:34
  some of their bigger rides, but it's like, you know, basically
• 29:37
  you've got a time slot for when you can go ride the rides.
• 29:40
  That way you don't spend all day in line.
• 29:41
  Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, man, Yeah, they need to
• 29:44
  do. That so they want to grab some
• 29:46
  food before they go go ride the roller coaster and they're like
• 29:51
  making this big deal about it being the Devil's Bible.
• 29:52
  But it's, I mean, it just looks like a pretty standard roller
• 29:57
  coaster. I mean, it's like, see, I think
• 30:02
  we have to just in the like in relation to where they're at,
• 30:07
  that might be the best that they have in their area.
• 30:09
  I guess. OK.
• 30:10
  Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
• 30:12
  So yeah, it's a big deal to them.
• 30:14
  And they're so like, Kevin and Jason go to get food, and Wendy
• 30:20
  and Carrie are talking amongst themselves.
• 30:22
  Yeah, Wendy's. Like I'm normally in such a
• 30:23
  control freak. Yeah, I don't know how you would
• 30:26
  live with them. Like I'm going to like.
• 30:27
  Yeah, I couldn't handle Kevin because he's too well.
• 30:31
  And then Carrie's like, well, I'm going to break up with him
• 30:33
  after school. Yeah, so so they're boogieing
• 30:37
  down. This is where Kevin does his
• 30:38
  little jump in cuz you know, in his mind he's got the perfect
• 30:41
  relationship. He's dude, he's got this guy
• 30:43
  challenging him to a dance off. He's gonna show off that dance
• 30:46
  move, but the guy matches it. Yeah.
• 30:48
  So then they have to dance even harder.
• 30:50
  Yeah, he really took the wind out of his sails.
• 30:53
  He's like, man, He's like, and I've even got my said Tobey
• 30:56
  Maguire, Spider Man 3 hair. Yeah, the whole movie.
• 31:01
  So Wendy's sister is there also. She's not a senior, but you know
• 31:05
  Wendy would be a bitch if she told her mom so.
• 31:08
  Yeah, she's not supposed to be there, but I don't understand
• 31:10
  why you're mad. Like, it's the amusement park,
• 31:12
  so why can't your sister be there?
• 31:14
  You know, like. It's There are no parents
• 31:17
  involved in this movie. The only adult we actually see
• 31:21
  are the cops and Yuri at the tanning salon and probably
• 31:25
  Frankie Cheeks. Frankie Cheeks is like barely an
• 31:29
  adult and I think Yuri is also like barely an adult and.
• 31:32
  Yuri has Gray hair. I think he's just got bad skin
• 31:34
  from all the tanning. OK, Wendy is afraid of the
• 31:38
  roller coaster and Jay gives her this great pep talk and is,
• 31:42
  like, very comforting. He's like, come on, we're gonna
• 31:44
  do this together. Liar.
• 31:47
  Yeah, yeah, he takes this picture up front from the.
• 31:50
  Devil. He's like matching the energy of
• 31:52
  the devil, which is a fun picture.
• 31:53
  Yeah, it's a good picture. Yeah, so they and then we get
• 31:57
  the obligatory Tony Todd double voice.
• 31:59
  Yeah, Texas Battle is showing off how strong he is at a ride.
• 32:03
  I love this. Like he doesn't.
• 32:05
  He's like yeah give me 5 and he goes over to guy to get 5 and he
• 32:08
  draws it back. He's like who the fuck you think
• 32:10
  you are? Just like.
• 32:12
  I love his character. Yeah, he.
• 32:14
  Soaks up every second he's on the screen.
• 32:16
  Fun energy he does a great. Job this This is probably like
• 32:19
  for as many problems as I have with the dialogue, it's probably
• 32:22
  the strongest cast. It's a great cast.
• 32:24
  Yeah, it really is. I mean, like, I don't know,
• 32:27
  one's pretty good. One.
• 32:28
  Yeah, it it's up there with one I like.
• 32:32
  Yeah, All the other movies that I could, the cast is kind of
• 32:34
  forgettable to me, but yeah, those two movies for sure, yeah.
• 32:38
  So they get to the ride and they're gonna be carted up front
• 32:43
  and Wendy's like, no, I can't do that.
• 32:45
  I can't see the rails. I get that.
• 32:47
  I'm generally I can't ride in the front of a roller coaster
• 32:50
  either. It just, it panics me a little
• 32:51
  bit too much. And they say, well, Carrie will
• 32:55
  ride with you. And she's like, no, I want to
• 32:58
  ride in the front. And so Jay and Kevin flip a
• 33:01
  coin. And I'm just like, Jason, my
• 33:05
  guy. You just gave her this whole big
• 33:07
  pep talk about like how there's nothing to be afraid.
• 33:09
  You're just afraid of the loss of control.
• 33:11
  It'll be fine. I'll be with you.
• 33:13
  You are not. Look, this is the rule.
• 33:15
  If that's your girlfriend, you go with your girlfriend.
• 33:17
  That's how you like. You don't like.
• 33:19
  Well, I want to also be in the front, so I'm going to go to the
• 33:22
  front with my friend's girlfriend instead.
• 33:25
  It's just, the whole thing is just ridiculous.
• 33:28
  Yeah, it's that's not how it should be.
• 33:31
  This guy fucked up a little bit. So coming up right here, our
• 33:34
  very first diversion from the movie here we get so they do a
• 33:38
  coin toss, like a coin flip to figure out who goes in the
• 33:41
  front, who goes in the back. We never actually see the result
• 33:43
  of it. In no we don't, but so choosing
• 33:47
  heads by choosing heads, the movie continues as normal if you
• 33:50
  choose tails. The whole She sees the
• 33:53
  premonition, but everybody gets off.
• 33:54
  Yep, everybody gets off. Yeah, that's right.
• 33:56
  And then they're all safe. And then we just get like, it
• 33:58
  cuts to the end of the movie. It tells us what their lives are
• 34:01
  after this. Hold on, I think I let me see if
• 34:03
  I get what they're. Cuz I know Carrie breaks up with
• 34:07
  Kevin, he's heartbroken. I think he joins the military or
• 34:09
  something. When do you decide she wants to
• 34:12
  embrace her gifts and she becomes like a Long Island
• 34:14
  medium? Yeah, she becomes a medium where
• 34:16
  like they consult her for like all of these high profile cases
• 34:19
  and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, It's really
• 34:22
  interesting actually. Like it actually gives you a
• 34:24
  background of all of this stuff. Yeah, and it's it's just fun.
• 34:28
  It's it was bizarre the first time it happened.
• 34:30
  And sometimes we're just like, dude, I just.
• 34:31
  Want to read and then the credits roll?
• 34:33
  Yeah, like the movie is over. If you want to keep playing, you
• 34:37
  got to restart the movie. Yeah, it's kind of fun.
• 34:40
  I remember the first time that happened, we were like what the
• 34:42
  fuck? Oh, OK, I guess that's it.
• 34:45
  I guess we only wanted to watch 15 minutes of Final Destination
• 34:48
  through today. OK, so we're choosing whichever
• 34:53
  1 gets us to go to. So she has a premonition.
• 34:58
  Kevin, he's got some gum in his side of the the car.
• 35:02
  So that's one of the tales. Right.
• 35:04
  Yeah, like he grabs onto like it's not his gum.
• 35:06
  No, somebody sucked their gum under there, so OK, they're
• 35:10
  going. Yeah, they she's got her camera
• 35:13
  and she's going to take a picture and the tenant says,
• 35:15
  hey, no loose items, no cameras. And so he's like, can I just,
• 35:18
  Kevin says can I just put it in my pocket?
• 35:19
  And he's like, yeah, that's fine.
• 35:21
  Frankie Cheeks, who's being a sex fest.
• 35:22
  Ashlyn and Ashlyn. He overhears.
• 35:25
  Understand how the seating works on a roller coaster cuz you're
• 35:27
  not gonna be able to see Ashley and Ashlyn in front of you.
• 35:32
  He did his best. He's trying.
• 35:34
  He's making a video, man. OK, He's gonna edit.
• 35:37
  He's gonna do some edits. Some of my post effects right
• 35:39
  there. He's gonna get it.
• 35:41
  So as they're going through the ride like we see like hydraulic.
• 35:46
  Drips, yeah, whenever they're they put on Texas battles
• 35:49
  Lewis's his fasten and they causes something to like trip in
• 35:55
  the cart below, which causes like a fluid to leak.
• 35:57
  From it, yeah. And so they go up and then down,
• 36:03
  and as they're going through the loop, Frankie has his camera out
• 36:07
  and is harassing them and they knock the camera down.
• 36:10
  It falls down to the rail, wraps around, and then when the car
• 36:15
  gets down, it hits that things come undone.
• 36:19
  Cars are flying. They're fastens all.
• 36:22
  Seatbelts are coming undone. We've got people falling out of
• 36:26
  their seats, people getting whipped apart by loose carts.
• 36:31
  Yeah, carts flying off the rails.
• 36:33
  At one point the coaster gets stuck at the top of the loop and
• 36:36
  it's Ian and Aaron and Kevin and Wendy.
• 36:40
  And two other people that fall that we don't know, they just
• 36:43
  kind of blurs. Yeah, Ian and Erin are trying to
• 36:46
  hold on, but they end up falling out, too, which this isn't great
• 36:50
  for the editing of the film, but we kind of see Erin's actress,
• 36:53
  like, adjust her feet so that way she, like, will fall out of
• 36:56
  the cart a little bit. Yeah, you can see her kind of
• 36:58
  like pulling her legs out. And I'm like, girl, you could
• 37:01
  have just like Nod didn't. Notice.
• 37:04
  That and then they it comes down to just Kevin and Wendy and
• 37:10
  they're like rocking the roller coaster and they end up going
• 37:12
  back. Something cuts Kevin in half and
• 37:15
  he's it's. Like one of the poles is.
• 37:16
  Like, yeah, knocked. Loose and it's up there.
• 37:18
  He's still standing in this car and it cuts him in half.
• 37:21
  And then the car crashes and Wendy dies.
• 37:23
  But then she comes back and she's crying and she's like
• 37:26
  trying to get them to stop. They release just the back part
• 37:30
  of the train and they get her off and they're trying to calm
• 37:33
  her down. And then it turns in like Texas
• 37:35
  Battle Lewis. He is just saying like, oh, she
• 37:38
  just wants some attention. And then Kevin goes, you know
• 37:42
  what? Fuck you.
• 37:43
  And he says fuck wah. Which?
• 37:45
  Is a gun fantastic writing in this movie, in this part?
• 37:48
  So they get into a fight and they accidentally hit Aaron
• 37:52
  which gets McKinley angry and he jumps into the fight so they all
• 37:56
  leave. The the Ashley and Ashton are
• 37:59
  fed up with the bullshit so they're like fuck it, let's just
• 38:01
  go Frankie. Follows what they say is let's
• 38:04
  out. Let's out.
• 38:06
  Let's out. And so they leave there.
• 38:09
  So this is how all these people leave.
• 38:11
  Yeah, and Jay is asking to get off the rug because he wants to
• 38:15
  take care of Wendy and everybody.
• 38:17
  Again, I say you probably should have sat next to your fucking
• 38:19
  girlfriend from the go. Yeah, that's price you payment.
• 38:23
  But they're they're, you know, channeling Ramones and saying
• 38:26
  hi, ho. Let's go.
• 38:28
  That's how you get it going. So they get going and then it
• 38:31
  still wrecks regardless. No, and here's the thing, people
• 38:34
  complain about this a lot online.
• 38:35
  Because they're like, without Frankie, it doesn't happen.
• 38:37
  But there are other things happening, and the whole point
• 38:39
  of this entire goddamn franchise is that death always finds a
• 38:42
  way. Yeah, that's true.
• 38:43
  So. And there were multiple things
• 38:45
  that we saw happening with the roller coaster that was causing
• 38:47
  issues, so something was going to happen either way.
• 38:50
  I think the problem a lot of people has is like the coaster
• 38:55
  flies off in the exact same way as the premonition, which if
• 38:59
  things like you need those things to play out the exact
• 39:01
  same way for that to happen. Unless something else falls,
• 39:04
  it's just a little bit easy. We just don't know.
• 39:06
  We didn't see the whole crash, so we don't know 100% what
• 39:08
  happened. Sure.
• 39:10
  All right, so Wendy is clearing her locker, and it's a rainy day
• 39:14
  because it matches her mood symbolism.
• 39:17
  Kevin is trying to talk to her, and she's like, listen, I'm not
• 39:20
  going to graduation. Jay and Carrie, if they're, you
• 39:24
  know, really in an afterlife, they're not going to be at
• 39:26
  graduation. They don't care either.
• 39:28
  And he's like, I promised Jay I would take care of you.
• 39:30
  And she was like, yeah, but, you know, on the roller coaster for
• 39:34
  three minutes. Not for the rest of our lives.
• 39:36
  If you and Jay weren't friends and me and Carrie weren't
• 39:38
  friends, you and I wouldn't ever hang out.
• 39:41
  We're not even. We don't even like each other.
• 39:44
  And it's the same energy as Brittany Murphy and Clueless
• 39:47
  where she's like you're just a virgin who can't drive.
• 39:52
  Just as devastating. And that's why Kevin has to keep
• 39:55
  his sad Spider Man here for the rest of the movie.
• 39:59
  Well, he has every right. He's sad here.
• 40:00
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:01
  So. When he's trying to say like,
• 40:02
  you're not alone, she goes, whatever, I get it.
• 40:04
  Yeah, we're all here. He goes no, like literally.
• 40:06
  Like there's this kid on Flight 180 who saw like a crash
• 40:09
  happening. Oh yeah, yeah, he does.
• 40:11
  Like he researched it a little bit.
• 40:13
  But she's just ignoring. And then she makes a point of
• 40:15
  like walking past this pavilion where everybody is sitting and
• 40:19
  dry. And she's just like it feels
• 40:22
  passive aggressive how wet she is choosing to be.
• 40:25
  Yeah, she's sad, man. She's in her feelings.
• 40:28
  Let her have her feeling. She's still.
• 40:29
  She's fresh out of high school, OK?
• 40:31
  She's not emotionally mature yet.
• 40:35
  But Ashley and Ashley and they're like, we should invite
• 40:38
  her and they're like. That was so nice of us.
• 40:41
  Nice of that. Yeah.
• 40:42
  They invite her to go tanning. She's like, I guess maybe.
• 40:44
  So they they hand her a note with their number.
• 40:46
  And she's like, I already have yours.
• 40:48
  Why don't you just call her then?
• 40:49
  Yeah, I don't know. Whatever, Julie and Wendy have a
• 40:53
  sister moment back at the house because Wendy's like, hey, I
• 40:55
  feel really guilty. Normally I'm such a control
• 40:58
  freak. She was like being kind of mean
• 41:01
  to her though, like when the sister was like, she did like, I
• 41:04
  know that they both experienced this at the same time, but like
• 41:06
  and. That's something that we don't
• 41:07
  talk about with this movie enough, is that Julie is also
• 41:11
  dealing with this near death thing, but she somehow like she
• 41:15
  doesn't ever bring it up to anybody.
• 41:17
  She's like Wendy, have the moment, but I think she's
• 41:19
  dealing with some shit. She was not supposed to be
• 41:23
  there. If she brings it up, she's
• 41:24
  telling people that she was there.
• 41:26
  But still, she's dealing with some shit internally,
• 41:29
  psychologically. Maybe some people handle that
• 41:32
  better. See, the reason that Wendy is
• 41:34
  having such a hard time and she lost her boyfriend.
• 41:36
  She's got survivor's skill and she's the reason that she got a
• 41:39
  lot of those people off, but she couldn't get her boyfriend off.
• 41:41
  I understand what she's struggling with is a little bit
• 41:43
  more Julie. She's still a teenager.
• 41:47
  Maybe that does hit her hard, but maybe she's like oh cool, I
• 41:50
  got off easy, you know like I don't know, I.
• 41:54
  Don't know. We cut to the Ashley's, the
• 41:57
  Ashley, Ashlyn's, the Ashes. They are at the salon, the
• 42:03
  tanning salon, and Yuri keeps getting calls on his personal
• 42:05
  cell phone. He says the beds mess with the
• 42:08
  signal and he can't talk on the phone and the the salon because
• 42:12
  it's a personal call. So they're like, it's fine, we
• 42:14
  can handle this. They close up the shop because
• 42:16
  they want it all to themselves and they.
• 42:20
  He tells them no drinks and they pretend like they're throwing
• 42:23
  their drinks away, but they sneak in.
• 42:24
  They sneak them in. They we see like one of them put
• 42:27
  a heavy gym bag on a coat rack and it kind of makes it
• 42:30
  unbalanced. They're looking at the CDs on
• 42:33
  the shelf and it comes a little bit loose on the wall.
• 42:38
  She has a drink on the table. She sets her drink on the table.
• 42:41
  That also increase the temperature of the room.
• 42:43
  So here's another here's another diversion right here.
• 42:47
  So you get the choice between 73° or 76° when Ashley and
• 42:52
  Ashland arrive in the tanning room.
• 42:54
  OK so if you choose 73° the movie continues as normal
• 42:59
  choosing 76. Ashwin manages to get out of her
• 43:02
  tanning bed as it begins to malfunction but she is knocked
• 43:05
  out by the shelf. Ashley scream screaming wakes
• 43:08
  her up and Ashwin tried to pull tries to pull Ashley out but
• 43:12
  when she grabs her hand both the girls get electrocuted killing
• 43:15
  them. Yep.
• 43:16
  So instead of burning together, they just get electrocuted.
• 43:19
  Yeah, but they both still die. Yeah, and you still get that
• 43:22
  shot. Yeah, which is so cool.
• 43:24
  Yeah. And in the midst of all this,
• 43:27
  Wendy had been, like, looking through pictures, and she felt
• 43:29
  something weird when she saw a picture of the ashes.
• 43:32
  And she tries to call them and goes to voicemail.
• 43:34
  I do appreciate in this movie that when we hear cell phones
• 43:37
  ring, they're like, not just a standard, like we get like
• 43:41
  customized. Rings.
• 43:42
  Yeah, that's an appropriate one for right here.
• 43:44
  Too. Yeah.
• 43:46
  So we go to their funeral and the priest is saying, like,
• 43:52
  everybody's equal in deaths. And Ian McKinley is like, no,
• 43:55
  he's like, we got, we got pimps and vice presidents still
• 43:59
  walking around and these two girls who haven't done shit to
• 44:03
  anyone. McKinley, you're not wrong, but
• 44:06
  wrong time. You're not wrong, Walter, you're
• 44:09
  just an ass. Yeah, you're being a Dick.
• 44:12
  And then him and Aaron get into a van that I have to assume is
• 44:16
  Chris Lemci's personal vehicle because I'm positive this is
• 44:19
  what he drives in Ginger snacks. Same exact thought crossed my
• 44:22
  mind. It is the exact same van he like
• 44:25
  I mean what the fuck I need to ask somebody about this.
• 44:29
  I I just like it's got to be like who?
• 44:32
  Why would they can? You look up cars for
• 44:34
  registration in Canada? Like can we see what vehicles
• 44:37
  registered degree of slim chi? Aw, man, yeah, it is.
• 44:40
  I mean, it's just funny. It's a funny quince, and it's if
• 44:43
  anything. And then Kevin gets a call from
• 44:47
  Wendy, which all of these people are at the funeral, right?
• 44:51
  Like including Louis, who's like, man, this is so why did
• 44:53
  you go to the funeral? Who made you?
• 44:55
  Who made you go there, Louis? It's Mom.
• 44:59
  We don't know that there are no fucking adults in this movie as
• 45:01
  far as we can. Tell Ed and Eddie adults aren't.
• 45:04
  I think they're, like, just imaginary.
• 45:06
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:07
  Well, so, yeah, Wendy, call us Kevin.
• 45:09
  He's like, hey, come over here. I met Jay's.
• 45:11
  Yeah, she says. I'm with Jay.
• 45:13
  Yeah, so he goes over there and she's like, she's telling him
• 45:16
  about like the spirit that she's feeling.
• 45:18
  Yeah, and she says that she doesn't think it's him because
• 45:21
  she it doesn't mean it's cold. Yeah, it doesn't make her feel
• 45:24
  the way that Jay made her. Feel, I like the shot is really
• 45:26
  cool because like, the way that the camera is position and then
• 45:29
  like she's like, when she's staying nice, she's like, it's
• 45:31
  cold. Like I don't like the way it
• 45:33
  makes me feel. And then like, you see the wind
• 45:34
  blow the trees behind her. I guess it's just cool, like
• 45:37
  having that like moment where that's like, yeah, fuck yeah,
• 45:40
  I'm here to fuck with you. She shows him other premonitory
• 45:44
  photos from history and she's explaining all of these things
• 45:46
  and she's like, well, you're the one who said, you know, there
• 45:49
  have been other premonitions and stuff.
• 45:50
  So is it just me or is it is the 9/11 1 too soon?
• 45:55
  This was 2006. It felt a little.
• 45:59
  Soon, it felt soon for me, like I cannot believe they let that
• 46:02
  through because they have a picture of like the shadow of a
• 46:05
  plane on the Trade Center. Also, like Ian makes several
• 46:10
  references to Osama bin Laden, who at that point was still
• 46:13
  alive. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:16
  So. He, he didn't make it, but you
• 46:19
  know, I maybe in the afterlife he got peace knowing that bin
• 46:22
  Laden got his in 2010, 2011, 2011.
• 46:27
  I think it was when we were still in high school.
• 46:29
  No, it was college, because that was the only time my second
• 46:33
  roommate ever talked to me was when he looked at me.
• 46:36
  He's like, dude, they killed Bin Laden.
• 46:39
  Yeah. Either way, Wendy gets woozy and
• 46:46
  Kevin asked when she's eaten. At what point did you realize
• 46:48
  his name was Kevin? Sorry, I just need to bring this
• 46:50
  up because Travis was writing his name as Evan throughout the
• 46:53
  1st. Part of yeah, so in my notes,
• 46:55
  it's just like a really aggressive, like Kevin for a
• 46:58
  long, long time, it happened whenever he's like a talking
• 47:05
  about Flight 180 the first time when they were at the high
• 47:08
  school. OK, Yeah, yeah.
• 47:11
  So he takes her to get some food.
• 47:13
  Very obviously a McDonald's. Yeah.
• 47:16
  If you know the signs, you know the signs, it's one of those.
• 47:20
  And so they're in the truck. They're talking about 180.
• 47:24
  They're talking about the order of the deaths.
• 47:26
  And she says, well, that would make Frankie next.
• 47:28
  So they look at his photo and she's like, and they're trying
• 47:31
  to figure out different things. They're like a ladder.
• 47:33
  So is he going to be climbing something?
• 47:35
  She goes, well, it's a rope ladder, so maybe it could be a
• 47:37
  hanging. That was also where he won that
• 47:39
  stupid pin up necklace. And you know, the semi mudflaps
• 47:42
  have the pin up girl on them. You know, like she's actually
• 47:46
  figure she's jumped ahead in the figuring out of the clues from
• 47:50
  where our characters normally are at this point in the film.
• 47:53
  And I think that's kind of nice that we don't have to go through
• 47:55
  the same beats that we always go through and being like.
• 47:59
  Yeah, I can't remember. She's all, Yeah, she's seen
• 48:01
  Jason Sue where she saw the roller coaster.
• 48:04
  He was like imitating the devil, which means that that ride's
• 48:06
  probably going to kill him. And then it's the roller
• 48:07
  coaster, like going right towards his head.
• 48:09
  Yeah, and then the Ashleys and Ashlands, it was like.
• 48:13
  The inflatable palm. Tree.
• 48:14
  Yeah, and there was like a blur, like a red blur in the photo.
• 48:20
  So they're trying to figure this out.
• 48:22
  And they're in line in the drive through line and there is a car
• 48:27
  in front of them and the guy is being kind of a Dick.
• 48:30
  And then there's a truck behind them that are getting frustrated
• 48:32
  with them not paying attention. And then we see a like, dump
• 48:37
  truck type thing and it backs up, gets Kevin's truck stuck,
• 48:42
  which was the general problem to begin with.
• 48:45
  And then there is another like delivery truck up a hill that
• 48:50
  it's brakes come loose and it starts speeding down the hill.
• 48:53
  The car that's behind Kevin's truck realizes what's happening,
• 48:57
  drives out of the way. Kevin and Wendy are desperately
• 48:59
  trying to get the person in front of them to move.
• 49:01
  He just slips them off. Kevin eventually busts out the
• 49:04
  windshield of his truck and they get out just in time.
• 49:07
  And the the engine of his truck gets knocked out when they're
• 49:15
  when the loose truck, the runaway truck hits it and it the
• 49:19
  fan of it hits Frankie in the back of his head that it was it
• 49:22
  was in the car in front of them. They don't realize it until
• 49:25
  after he's dead. And this is where we have
• 49:27
  another Choose Your Fate moment. Yeah, so the one this time is in
• 49:30
  the movie. And this is the only other one
• 49:33
  that actually changes the. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:36
  This one has a pretty big change here.
• 49:37
  So it's should Winnie honk again.
• 49:41
  So she honks once and then if you choose no don't honk again,
• 49:45
  the movie continues to use as normal but if she honks 2 times,
• 49:50
  Frankie flips him off again. Which you know, I, I couldn't
• 49:54
  remember if that was the thing that happened in both of them.
• 49:56
  But it's enough for him to get a warning this time and he's able
• 49:59
  to escape and he doesn't die, but he still gets arrested.
• 50:05
  So he's not there for the rest of the movie because he has
• 50:07
  indecent pictures of women on his.
• 50:09
  Yes, and it's a little bit later.
• 50:11
  It's just a random moment that you get, and it's not even in
• 50:14
  this scene, but it's just like later on, you see him cuffed on
• 50:17
  the side of a sidewalk and he's asking Kevin and Wendy for help
• 50:20
  because they're arresting him. So I like that that change.
• 50:23
  If he's gonna be the one that's arrested, I'm glad at least his
• 50:26
  sex pest self is getting taken away.
• 50:28
  Yeah, yeah, which is yeah is cool.
• 50:31
  So they are looking through the photos, unsure of who is behind
• 50:35
  Ian and Aaron, but they've got to get to Louis first.
• 50:37
  Louis has a Sultan in the background of his and that is
• 50:40
  his college team. He's at their training camp
• 50:44
  right now and they go to the training camp and this is how
• 50:48
  the scene plays out normally, 'cause they go in there and it's
• 50:51
  a really loud and aggressive locker room and Louis's workout
• 50:54
  is really disorganized. I like what what?
• 50:58
  How many sets and reps are you doing?
• 51:00
  They they did or they were they were on to it here because when
• 51:03
  she was looking at the picture of the first time, she's like,
• 51:05
  OK, so it looks like a weights coming down on his head.
• 51:07
  You had it right there. But then Kevin's like, no,
• 51:10
  there's the there's a mascot right there with two scimitars
• 51:14
  like that right there is the thing that's going to get them
• 51:17
  So and I see those hanging above.
• 51:19
  Ended up in the gym. Yeah, it ended up in both.
• 51:22
  But yeah, yeah. And like, they've got, I guess a
• 51:24
  big game. Their rivals are the Bruins and
• 51:28
  they're like, everybody's getting really aggressive and
• 51:30
  he's working out and he's saying I am the master of my face
• 51:33
  again. I could just like Texas Battle
• 51:36
  is one of those. I could just watch him choose
• 51:37
  scenery all day long. Yeah, every, every found
• 51:40
  destination has this character that has this moment.
• 51:43
  Like, yeah, like. That's afraid of me.
• 51:44
  Yeah, has a God. Complex.
• 51:46
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:48
  They think that they're going to survive no matter what.
• 51:50
  So things are going on. At one point a bear gets knocked
• 51:54
  down, which is funny because they're having the whole what
• 51:56
  the fuck is a Bruin anyway? Yeah, and it's claw.
• 51:59
  Come. It's claw comes loose, hits a
• 52:01
  guy in the eye, he stumbles, hits the Sultan in the
• 52:04
  background and the swords come down and they cut the cables on
• 52:09
  the machine Lewis is using and he lets out a final seat.
• 52:13
  Does kank out me? Woo.
• 52:15
  And he does one more Rep and it it's like the end of saw Four.
• 52:20
  Like with the ice cubes. Yeah, except it's weights.
• 52:23
  Right in his head. So yeah, there was an alteration
• 52:26
  here. This it's not it's it's the only
• 52:29
  one that like we avoid it consistently because it just
• 52:32
  shuts it just the scene so much I.
• 52:34
  Just can never remember what it is.
• 52:36
  OK so like should Wendy have another one because when they
• 52:38
  were discussing the photo. So if you say no, she shouldn't
• 52:42
  have another look, they the movie continues as normal
• 52:44
  choosing yes when he takes another look.
• 52:47
  When Wendy and Kevin go and warn Lewis Lewis about his stuff,
• 52:51
  they find him on the weightlifting machine.
• 52:52
  As soon as they get in there and the swords had already fallen
• 52:55
  and cut the ropes, Lewis says. Fisher, what the fuck are you
• 52:58
  doing here? As the lifts, as he's lifting
• 53:01
  the weights one more time and that's when he died.
• 53:03
  So he doesn't have his moment of like, that's afraid of me.
• 53:06
  I'm, you know, I'm not going to die.
• 53:07
  He's just like, what the fuck are you guys doing here?
• 53:09
  Boom, dead. It's worse, Yeah, it's a much
• 53:11
  worse. It's it's the only one that I'm
• 53:13
  like, wow, I do not feel satisfied by this.
• 53:16
  Yeah, it's, it's not that great. OK, so then they go to talk to
• 53:21
  Ian and Aaron. Ian and Aaron are at work.
• 53:23
  They're closing up. There is far too much that they
• 53:26
  are responsible for being minimum wage very new post high
• 53:30
  school graduates. Yeah, they're working at like a
• 53:32
  hardware home improvement store. Yeah, Ian has to kill pigeons
• 53:35
  with a nail gun. I'm not entirely certain that's
• 53:38
  the instructions he was given, but I also am leaving space for
• 53:41
  the fact that they could be. That is also one of the other
• 53:43
  ones there. We'll go through the normal
• 53:45
  thing here and go through the alternate here in a second.
• 53:47
  But the one you pointed out, that's also a very, very good
• 53:49
  point, is this motherfucker ain't gonna have a forklift
• 53:52
  license. Yeah, you need to have specials
• 53:54
  like certifications to be able to drive a forklift.
• 53:56
  Yeah, it's and it's not just like a.
• 53:58
  It's a high school fresh off high school.
• 54:00
  Like, you know, I don't think that they would get that for
• 54:03
  like somebody that's 17. I do think that this is a really
• 54:06
  cute like true couple moment though because they call each
• 54:09
  other's a pip and. Zip.
• 54:10
  Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
• 54:11
  It was really funny. Like, that's their like,
• 54:12
  walkie-talkie names. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:15
  So yeah, they're trying to convince them that all this
• 54:18
  shit's happening, but they are just mocking them the entire
• 54:20
  time because they don't buy it. It's just supernatural bullshit
• 54:24
  to them. I do like the one where they're
• 54:25
  like, who was it behind you on the roller coaster?
• 54:29
  And they're like, I didn't catch his name, but the right
• 54:31
  attendant did take his sickle. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty
• 54:35
  funny. So, yeah, basically they're just
• 54:37
  not taking it seriously. And then at one point, Ian
• 54:40
  'cause he, like, you know, he talks about all of these death
• 54:43
  statistics, you know, you're more likely to die on your way
• 54:46
  to an amusement park than die at an amusement park.
• 54:50
  And then he says, you know, well, if death really does have
• 54:53
  this design and it's going in this order, in theory, when the
• 54:56
  utilitarian move be the last person in line, just go ahead.
• 55:00
  And that way, you know, it cuts death off, stops it in its
• 55:04
  tracks, saves all of these lives.
• 55:07
  We've seen that's been tried and found the sanction too.
• 55:10
  Eugene tried to kill himself but it couldn't happen.
• 55:13
  That does not allow it. And Wendy's just like, listen,
• 55:16
  we're just trying to warn you. We're trying to, you know, stop
• 55:19
  all this from happening. And they keep they're like
• 55:21
  making him really nervous without even meaning to because
• 55:24
  they just keep saying watch out. And like he's on the forklift,
• 55:28
  you got to be careful with that shit.
• 55:29
  And he's knocking stuff over. And in the meantime, dad is
• 55:32
  doing it's little things like some stuff had fallen into
• 55:35
  another forklift and had it moving slowly.
• 55:37
  So it's knocking shelves down and stuff.
• 55:40
  And what happens is at one point a shelf is hit and it knocks a
• 55:44
  box of steaks down. Wendy pushes Ian out of the way.
• 55:49
  It ends up causing Aaron to be knocked into a shelf where the
• 55:52
  nail gun was. And it goes and in their
• 55:56
  picture, like she had covered her eyes up because of the flash
• 55:59
  and that's how her like that's how she.
• 56:02
  Yeah, yeah, it gets like nailed to.
• 56:03
  Her face like that, yeah. Yep.
• 56:05
  So McKinley now is just holding them responsible for her death.
• 56:09
  Yep. Do you want to cover the
• 56:13
  alternate? So yeah, it's the killing shot.
• 56:15
  So it's whenever he's got the gun, like the nail gun, and he's
• 56:18
  shooting at the pigeons. So if you choose killing shot,
• 56:21
  that's when the movie continues as normal.
• 56:22
  If he does a warning shot in, misses the pigeons and they fly
• 56:26
  away. Ian laughs and says you can run
• 56:28
  babies, but you can't hide, not from daddy because now he's
• 56:31
  pissed off, man. And then later, Wendy saves Ian
• 56:34
  from being impelled by plywood. Plywood does not pop the
• 56:37
  sandbag. Instead, the pigeons that
• 56:39
  weren't shot fly up in Aaron's face, causing her to stumble
• 56:42
  onto the nail gun. So, yeah, still mostly the same
• 56:46
  death. It's just a different way that
• 56:48
  it happens. Yeah, All right.
• 56:51
  Kevin didn't tell the cops what was going on, and Wendy's like,
• 56:54
  why? I told him everything and that
• 56:57
  that's it. Yeah.
• 56:59
  Like we don't, we don't we have the least amount of cops in
• 57:02
  this. Movie, The thing is like, it's
• 57:04
  just it's gonna be more of the same.
• 57:06
  It's gonna be. Like, yeah.
• 57:07
  You're telling me that Death is actually doing this shit?
• 57:09
  Really. Like, yeah, we've already done
• 57:11
  that the past two movies. We don't need to tread that
• 57:13
  again. But they did realize that
• 57:15
  because they intervened with Ian's death that it skipped him.
• 57:19
  So and then they also kind of have a moment where they admit
• 57:22
  that they're friends. Yeah.
• 57:25
  He throws it back in his face like she's like.
• 57:27
  Oh, we don't even like each other anyway.
• 57:28
  He's got to go work the tricentennial and she's nervous
• 57:32
  that he's not going to be like, they're not sticking together
• 57:34
  the entire time, but he's going to go do that.
• 57:39
  She's at home. She's having this moment where
• 57:41
  she's like with Julie and she's going to let her take the
• 57:45
  camera. No, that was that.
• 57:47
  Was way earlier, yeah. She's she's asleep.
• 57:49
  Here on her desk and Julie comes in to get her charm bracelet.
• 57:52
  And she sneaks it away. Wendy wakes up and then she
• 57:55
  looks at the picture again and she realizes that the person
• 57:58
  behind Ian and Aaron has a charm bracelet on.
• 58:00
  That's right. So she calls Kevin.
• 58:01
  She goes, Julie was behind them, and it's either Perry or the
• 58:05
  other friend that was sitting next to her.
• 58:07
  And he's like, all right, well, I'm here working security.
• 58:10
  I'll look for Julie. And he's also like, hey, by the
• 58:12
  way. We need to look at our photos.
• 58:14
  Thank you. And so her photo, she's wearing
• 58:19
  a McKinley High shirt and she's like, I don't know, but it feels
• 58:25
  like it has something to do with you and McKinley.
• 58:27
  Her picture doesn't really give you a lot of quiz.
• 58:29
  I think that would have to be that.
• 58:30
  Yeah. And then Kevin's is very
• 58:33
  overexposed. There's a big flash in his face
• 58:35
  and he says almost like a firework going off in it.
• 58:38
  And then he looks at a big table of fireworks.
• 58:42
  Julie is there and Kevin is trying to talk to her, and she's
• 58:47
  very creeped out by him. And I'm like, Kevin's been in
• 58:50
  your house, girl. You've met this man.
• 58:52
  Yeah, he's she's, yeah, she she's just trying to get away
• 58:56
  from him, so he's having to chase her around.
• 58:58
  And Wendy is being followed by EN.
• 59:00
  And then we've got some asshole teens that are messing with
• 59:04
  horses. It's just like a lot of things
• 59:05
  are happening. Yeah, they get firecrackers and
• 59:08
  they toss them around. These horses here, when the
• 59:10
  fireworks are about to go off anyway, that's mean to the
• 59:12
  horses. It's not smart.
• 59:15
  I understand from their tricentennial thing like we got
• 59:17
  to go old school and get horses but like use some common sense.
• 59:22
  Yeah. And so one of the horses gets
• 59:24
  spooked and it runs. It's little like stake that's
• 59:27
  holding. It comes out of the ground and
• 59:29
  as it's running, it loops the rope around Julie's neck and
• 59:33
  she's being dragged. But Kevin saves her.
• 59:37
  So I bet you feel kind of bad for treating him the way you
• 59:40
  were, don't you, Julie? And while she is still kind of
• 59:43
  trying to recover from all of that, Wendy's like, hey, Julie.
• 59:46
  Hey, Julie, listen to me. Listen, I know you're on the
• 59:47
  roll. Julie, Julie, Julie, who is
• 59:51
  Julie? Who is next to you on the roller
• 59:53
  coaster? They're next.
• 59:53
  And then Perry goes, what? And then she gets.
• 59:56
  Impaled with the flag? Yeah, it's just all happened.
• 1:00:00
  So far, again, she's one of those characters that if I was
• 1:00:03
  in this movie, that's who I want to be.
• 1:00:05
  I have no idea what's going on. I'm not afraid of my impending
• 1:00:08
  death and it's quick. This happens.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. She did have like a pretty
• 1:00:12
  quick, I don't know, I don't think she died instantaneously
• 1:00:15
  from that being stabbed through your gut.
• 1:00:17
  She bled out slowly from that. It is.
• 1:00:19
  I feel like I'm bleeding out slowly from my gut right now so
• 1:00:22
  that's fair. So they they're trying to leave
• 1:00:26
  and. Kevin gets kicked into a table.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. And so Wendy and Julia are
• 1:00:30
  trying to help him up into the mid tent.
• 1:00:32
  Yeah. And then Ian is approaching.
• 1:00:35
  We didn't talk about this before, but when Wendy was
• 1:00:38
  driving over to the Tricentennial, she noticed that
• 1:00:40
  McKinley was telling her in his van.
• 1:00:43
  So she knows that he is after him or after her.
• 1:00:46
  And they're trying to warn him like, hey, you're the reason or
• 1:00:48
  like, you just need to stay the fuck away from me.
• 1:00:50
  And that's when he's like, Oh my God, I'm the one that causes
• 1:00:53
  your death. He seems way too excited about
• 1:00:55
  it. Well.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, he he has a new found power.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah. And then like this table of
• 1:01:01
  fireworks goes off, Julie, Wendy and Kevin duck, and they don't
• 1:01:04
  get hit. And none of them hit Ian either.
• 1:01:06
  And he's like, see, it's gets me.
• 1:01:08
  I'm good. When he's doing that, that's the
• 1:01:10
  exact pose he has in that picture too.
• 1:01:13
  Oh no, I didn't notice that I. Noticed that for the first time
• 1:01:15
  last night. Like the the pose of this
• 1:01:16
  picture, like when he's like dodging the fireworks, like,
• 1:01:19
  that's OK, yeah. When he was embarrassed to
• 1:01:20
  death. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, that was his. That was his pose.
• 1:01:23
  OK. Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  OK, so yeah, he's like, look at that.
• 1:01:27
  Like it's not coming for me, You save me.
• 1:01:29
  It's skipped me. Like I'm not going to die.
• 1:01:31
  And then the cherry picker crushes him.
• 1:01:34
  So here's one that is really funny.
• 1:01:37
  You choose jump right or jump left.
• 1:01:39
  If you jump left the movie continues as normal.
• 1:01:43
  Apparently if you jump right there is something different
• 1:01:45
  that happens. I've always thought that it
• 1:01:46
  didn't make a difference because he dies regardless right here.
• 1:01:49
  But if you choose jump right, the cherry picker completes
• 1:01:52
  completely crushes him waving nothing left for him that's you
• 1:01:54
  don't see his dead body flipping off Wendy.
• 1:01:57
  After this Wendy and Kevin and Joy stand up and when he says
• 1:02:00
  that the camera, Joy swears that she didn't take any pictures and
• 1:02:03
  that she will take it back Monday.
• 1:02:05
  But Wendy says forget it and throws it on the floor and steps
• 1:02:07
  on it crushing it. The three walk off, unaware that
• 1:02:10
  the broken camera snaps one last photo, which ends the film, and
• 1:02:13
  that's when the credits roll. So that's the original ending we
• 1:02:15
  get if you choose that. OK, Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Instead, we get 5 months later, Wendy's on a subway with her
• 1:02:22
  roommate and one of their friends, and they're in car 180.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, we hear the train announcer saying that there's
• 1:02:30
  one more stop and then it's the end of the line.
• 1:02:33
  And then train announcer is Tony Todd.
• 1:02:35
  Julie gets on as Wendy's trying to get off cuz she's getting a
• 1:02:38
  weird feeling and she's trying to get off.
• 1:02:39
  And Julie's like, oh, hey, I wanted to come see you early.
• 1:02:42
  The car wasn't working. So, you know, I just figured I'd
• 1:02:45
  go ahead and take the train. And so Wendy starts to introduce
• 1:02:49
  her to her friends and then they look over and they see Kevin and
• 1:02:53
  she's like, I've been having a weird feeling, the same feeling
• 1:02:55
  I felt that day. And they're like, no, we've been
• 1:02:57
  over this a million times. Besides, like, you know, Wendy,
• 1:03:00
  you're in a good position cuz me and Kevin both have to die.
• 1:03:03
  And so him being there on the train.
• 1:03:05
  It's a bad sign. It's a bad sign and they they go
• 1:03:10
  to talk to him and he's like, oh hey.
• 1:03:13
  And he kind of looks in Wendy's face and realizes what she's
• 1:03:18
  feeling. She'd have to be probably one of
• 1:03:20
  the most terrifying friends to have because if she ever has
• 1:03:23
  this, like, emotional moment where you're like, she starts to
• 1:03:25
  get sad, you're like, oh, my God, it's happening.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah. I would like never want to be
• 1:03:28
  friends with her. And then the train goes off, a
• 1:03:31
  rail crashes, everything's a disaster.
• 1:03:35
  The deaths that happen in this right here are fucking intense.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah. So like, Julie gets like
• 1:03:40
  something from outside, like, comes through one of the windows
• 1:03:43
  of the train and completely obliterates Julie.
• 1:03:46
  Kevin gets sucked out of the train and is grinded up against
• 1:03:51
  the walls of the train. I can't remember what happened
• 1:03:56
  to her friend. But Wendy herself is thrown out
• 1:03:59
  and she's on the rails and she's looking around.
• 1:04:01
  She sees all of these dead bodies and she looks up and
• 1:04:05
  there's another train coming and there's no way for her to get
• 1:04:07
  away. And this is where we have the
• 1:04:08
  final Choose your Fate moment. So it's either she looks at the
• 1:04:13
  map and the train, or she doesn't look at the map.
• 1:04:15
  If she doesn't look at the map, the movie continues as normal.
• 1:04:18
  If she looks at it, Kevin and Julie meet up, train crashes and
• 1:04:21
  Julie is smashed by a train. Will and Kevin is ground up
• 1:04:24
  against tunnel wall. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:25
  OK then the train is in the ruins and when he is the only
• 1:04:29
  survivor, she lies on the track, covered in blood and injured.
• 1:04:32
  She tries to stand up but her leg is broken.
• 1:04:34
  She stares at all the dead bodies and sobs.
• 1:04:36
  Then she hears another train coming.
• 1:04:37
  She turns and sees trains speeding towards her, screams
• 1:04:40
  and tear, and it hits her as both the former split and guts
• 1:04:44
  splatter everywhere, covering the whole screen at the same
• 1:04:46
  time, and her premonition turns into a reality of her demise.
• 1:04:50
  That's basically how the other one ends.
• 1:04:52
  Yeah, except we we see them when she has the premonition, they
• 1:04:58
  try to get off, they pull the E brake and it doesn't work and
• 1:05:03
  then it cuts to black and we just hear crashing sounds.
• 1:05:06
  That's right. I think with the map, we see
• 1:05:08
  like the death happen again. Yeah, Yeah, OK.
• 1:05:10
  We see her, like realizing it, that it's over that time.
• 1:05:14
  OK, that's it. That's the movie.
• 1:05:18
  Do you change your score any? I think an 8 is still
• 1:05:21
  appropriate. All right, I'm keeping mine at
• 1:05:22
  10, So what would you change? I think I would just make some
• 1:05:26
  of the dialogue better. OK cuz one that's good is good
• 1:05:29
  but one is bad is bad. That's that's fair, That's fair.
• 1:05:35
  What do you think Talia would rate this?
• 1:05:37
  She was pretty sleepy during it, but she's seen this several
• 1:05:40
  dozen times. Yeah, she.
• 1:05:44
  I don't know man. She doesn't like roller
• 1:05:46
  coasters. She doesn't like pictures
• 1:05:48
  either. She.
• 1:05:49
  Doesn't like pictures, she doesn't like roller coasters.
• 1:05:51
  She always knows best. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  And she would feel frustrated like Wendy, with nobody taking
• 1:05:56
  her series such. She's always in control.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah, she's, yeah, she is in control.
• 1:06:01
  She is control. Yeah.
• 1:06:04
  I think that she would give this.
• 1:06:07
  I think she gives it, yeah. OK, 6 sounds about right, yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Zoe's ultimate warrior. It's tough.
• 1:06:13
  I mean, it's Louis. Louis.
• 1:06:16
  Yeah, why? Cuz Zoe's invincible.
• 1:06:19
  She's great. Death is afraid of her.
• 1:06:21
  You know what? Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah, she does kind of give up Louis in her energy sometimes.
• 1:06:27
  Now does Courtney hoot or does Courtney holler?
• 1:06:30
  I think Courtney, because no adults, no way I can tell you
• 1:06:37
  don't do that, Kitty. Cordelia is still learning so
• 1:06:41
  much about the world. I took our duvet cover off the
• 1:06:45
  bed to wash it today and it shocked her.
• 1:06:49
  Yeah, she wasn't really. She was upset, she was so mad.
• 1:06:53
  And every time we go back to the bedroom she's like, are you
• 1:06:55
  going to put it back on there? And I'm like no, because we have
• 1:06:57
  to dry it 10 fucking times because we've got a tiny at home
• 1:07:00
  dryer. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  I think that in this world where adults don't exist, she, she,
• 1:07:06
  she had a hoot with a yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 1:07:10
  What? Oh, we don't do dream sequel
• 1:07:13
  because this isn't our franchise.
• 1:07:14
  What? Would Dom do?
• 1:07:16
  What would Dom do? I mean Domin be fucking with an
• 1:07:20
  amusement park anyway because he drives faster than a roller
• 1:07:22
  coaster can go. If he ever goes to an amusement
• 1:07:24
  park, he drives his car on the rails.
• 1:07:26
  Yeah, he's like, I don't need that coaster.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah, and if he if he was on a roller coaster and it crashed,
• 1:07:31
  like he would just maneuver himself out and land without
• 1:07:34
  getting hurt. Yeah, death does not get
• 1:07:37
  peaceful. Are you kidding me?
• 1:07:40
  Who did you relate to? I man, I don't know who did I
• 1:07:47
  relate to. I guess I related to Jason
• 1:07:51
  because I like to go into the front of the cart, but my
• 1:07:55
  girlfriend slash wife now does not like to go into the front of
• 1:08:00
  the roller coasters. Except do you sit with me?
• 1:08:02
  I sit with you. You better than Jason I.
• 1:08:04
  Don't complain about it, but I relate to the fact that I like
• 1:08:06
  to go to the front. OK, who do I relate to?
• 1:08:13
  I guess I probably relate to Erin.
• 1:08:19
  Just like I wanna get my work done and I wanna leave and I
• 1:08:25
  don't want to shoot pigeons. OK, that's a, you know, that's
• 1:08:30
  good. I think that's a Jessie.
• 1:08:32
  Sure. And she is the bang's most like
• 1:08:34
  mine out of all of the bangs that's.
• 1:08:36
  True. And you also have that goth
• 1:08:37
  streak in U2. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:40
  OK, well, it's time to do reviews.
• 1:08:42
  Yeah, I got a. IMDb review.
• 1:08:45
  It's a 2 out of 10. It was reviewed May 1st, 2006.
• 1:08:49
  OK, so shortly after it came out.
• 1:08:53
  It doesn't thrill, it doesn't scare.
• 1:08:54
  It's also not funny. Very boring.
• 1:08:56
  It's the title. Oh boy.
• 1:08:58
  I am fighting through the 1st 25 minutes of this film and it is
• 1:09:00
  looking terrible for me at the moment.
• 1:09:02
  All people are like mad. Where did they find those
• 1:09:05
  terrible quotes and these awful American hairstyles?
• 1:09:09
  I'm almost watching it from under the table, embraced with a
• 1:09:11
  bucket special and sound effects look unrealistic make neither
• 1:09:16
  make me neither scared nor thrilled, but an empty space in
• 1:09:19
  my stomach that pulsates from disgust.
• 1:09:21
  All characters in this film look so primitive that it's almost
• 1:09:24
  unrealistic. Also wouldn't slash Quown ask
• 1:09:26
  Hey and I watched Fun Destination one and two and they
• 1:09:29
  were not bad at all. They're a little boring but
• 1:09:31
  funny. It seems that the sequel of the
• 1:09:33
  series was degraded as the publisher wanted to milk some
• 1:09:36
  more money of the audience. That's it.
• 1:09:38
  I didn't make it over half an hour though.
• 1:09:40
  Usually I watch films still being highly advisable.
• 1:09:42
  I rated it to considering that there might exist a worst film,
• 1:09:46
  but I'm not sure about that anymore.
• 1:09:49
  As always, I recommend you at least judge the movie if you
• 1:09:51
  watch it all the way through. Yeah, I don't think you should
• 1:09:54
  be allowed to do a review if you haven't watched the whole movie.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, I think it's, I'm going to be honest, I didn't vet that
• 1:10:01
  one. I just kind of pulled like the
• 1:10:02
  two right there. So I didn't know I was pulling
• 1:10:04
  an incomplete one. But I think that's a good
• 1:10:06
  opportunity to just say, hey, like, just watch the movie.
• 1:10:09
  And if you don't finish the movie, you know, just say you
• 1:10:11
  couldn't finish it. Don't give a review.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah, because you don't know, You didn't see.
• 1:10:15
  That yeah. If somebody asks you, you say,
• 1:10:17
  Oh, well, no, I started watching.
• 1:10:18
  She couldn't finish it. Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  It wasn't for me. Just like I will never rate when
• 1:10:23
  a stranger calls the original 1 because I've never managed to
• 1:10:26
  stay awake for the whole thing. Oh wow, I like, I watch the
• 1:10:30
  beginning and I try and watch the middle part and it's just a
• 1:10:33
  lot of boring cop stuff. And I say that as a person who
• 1:10:36
  loves a police procedural. Yeah, it's a lot.
• 1:10:39
  I mean, the ending picks back up, but the middle snoozer.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah, no, yeah, it could have been interesting.
• 1:10:46
  Like if they did something like House of the Devil where like
• 1:10:48
  wandering around the house is tense because you know shit's
• 1:10:50
  going down, but it just. It's one of those that the
• 1:10:52
  remake actually really improved on.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah, for sure. So.
• 1:10:56
  But I'm not going to put that on IMDb because it's not fair for
• 1:10:59
  me to rate a movie I haven't watched all the way through.
• 1:11:01
  That's right. OK, so we got reviews from
• 1:11:06
  listeners, so let's get into those here.
• 1:11:09
  First off, we have Stoney whore says can't be 2000s gold.
• 1:11:15
  That scared us from going tanny. Yes, listen, if the fear of skin
• 1:11:20
  cancer or wrinkles didn't get you to stop tanning, hopefully
• 1:11:24
  this movie did. Right, I know Marni just says
• 1:11:29
  love it. Ray Cartagena says the last good
• 1:11:33
  one before the series took a dip.
• 1:11:34
  The DVD 5050 thing was bogus though.
• 1:11:36
  Oh. I love the 5050 thing.
• 1:11:38
  I don't know if that's like a good bogus or bad bogus, but I
• 1:11:41
  like it. You know, I think it's cool to
• 1:11:42
  like be able to do that. Some of the you get some less
• 1:11:46
  satisfactory in the results if you do that, but I still like
• 1:11:50
  the the chance of it all and I'm.
• 1:11:52
  Going to kind of spoil us for next month, but we're both
• 1:11:55
  defenders since the 4th one too. We are, we are, so just be
• 1:12:00
  prepared for that. Now.
• 1:12:02
  And finally we have Ward Zombie who says let me pull it up here.
• 1:12:13
  To be honest, one of the more forgettable of the series.
• 1:12:15
  Think for me it's the disaster. Just not as memorable.
• 1:12:18
  OK characters, pretty good depths, but those DVD extras
• 1:12:22
  that bring it up a notch. Yes, this is still in the era of
• 1:12:26
  fun DVD's. It was starting to go away, but
• 1:12:29
  it still was there a little bit. That it's such a cool idea to do
• 1:12:33
  that. I wish that they put that much
• 1:12:34
  care into that stuff anymore. I don't understand why the
• 1:12:39
  boutique Blu-ray people don't do that because like that's your
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  fucking market, man, People buying discs.
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  So like play into that, like have fun with the discs again,
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  you know, like I don't understand.
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  I miss it. But I, you know, I, I get it
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  that these people, that some of you people aren't as high on
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  this movie as I am, and that's OK.
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  I don't. I'm not holding it against you,
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  I promise. Do we have any updates on our
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  polls? No, it's the same results.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  All right. OK.
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  Well, then I guess we're done with this.
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  Yeah, this week we are done with January.
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  We don't have a February schedule yet.
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  It'll happen eventually though. Just look for us online when we
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  post our schedule as we tend to do.
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  And you can find us on social media.
• 1:13:24
  We're on Instagram and threads at least favorite scary movie
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  podcast. We're on Blue sky, at least fave
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  Potter websites. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie.com? And you can e-mail us at least
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  favorite scarymovie@gmail.com. We also want to thank our
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  bubbies over on the Patreon. We have Joe Freakatron, as is
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  his name. Amber, Michael, Lord, Zombie.
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  Tyler, Chad. Jason and.
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  Johnny, Jason, yes, OK. Thank you.
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  Yeah, thank you guys. We really do.
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  It's just sometimes it gets caught up in our brains and we.
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  Don't. Yeah, I had a rhythm with it and
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  then Travis does it in a different order than me and now
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  it's messed up my a muscle memory of saying it.
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  Yeah, but we love you guys. You guys are awesome.
• 1:14:05
  Thank you guys for being here with us and being supporters.
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  If you want to show us support in other ways, just rate, review
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  and subscribe wherever you are listening to us.
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  Share us all of those good things.
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  Just hang around. We like having you guys here.
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  It's cool. So stick around for February,
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  you know? You know, we're gonna do some
• 1:14:24
  Valentine's Day show. We just don't know what's
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  happening yet. Don't know yet.
• 1:14:27
  The only thing we know for sure is Final Destination 4.
• 1:14:30
  That's right. So we'll catch you guys.
• 1:14:32
  Then we'll see you. Be safe, be warm, and until next
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  time. Peace.