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Confronting The Meltdown With STEVE TULIPANA From SEASON TO RISK · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: This is Steve Tulapana.
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  Speaker 2: I am the singer in uh Season two Risk, and
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  Speaker 2: we've got a new album, a new song, a new
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  Speaker 2: single on a new collection of music coming out called
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  Speaker 2: one Meltdown on Record Store Day.
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  Speaker 1: Really excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks thanks to join us today, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: My pleasure. So, as you said, Sayson to Risk release
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  Speaker 3: a compilation of sources called One Night hundred Meltdown on
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  Speaker 3: April the twelfth, so it's not too far away, bron.
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  Speaker 3: How do you feel about it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm feeling great about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you know, it includes one of the first song,
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  Speaker 2: first original recording we've done in quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: So very excited about how how it came out.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's pretty exciting and to be doing
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  Speaker 2: this after quite a bit of time off, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's basically just like a retrospective of season Turist's
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  Speaker 3: career from Inceptions now, is it?
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  Speaker 1: No, not really.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually a lot of material that was only either
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  Speaker 2: was non released, was or was released on seven inches.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the bulk of the album, is.
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  Speaker 2: What that is things that are pretty obscure and hard
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  Speaker 2: to find in our collection. And then to two songs
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  Speaker 2: that have been one that's brand new and one that
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  Speaker 2: was was.
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  Speaker 1: Recorded in this century.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good start. It's actually a pretty bold move, mate,
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  Speaker 3: because you haven't had anything out for quite a while.
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  Speaker 3: So normally a band had sort of come back with
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  Speaker 3: the best of because they know it's going to hit
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  Speaker 3: the mark with fans, like something like what you're doing
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  Speaker 3: with some rarities and some sort of long lost songs
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  Speaker 3: like they're all they're not quite as mainstream accepted, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: which is why they're rarety. So it's a very bold
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  Speaker 3: decision to come back with that, mate, I have brought it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we always wanted to, you know, we never
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  Speaker 2: really cared too much about being mainstream. I always wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be a little more experimental and really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: show people that side of what we're doing because it's
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  Speaker 2: informing some of the stuff that we're currently working on.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of why we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get it out.
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  Speaker 2: We have been reissuing our old records on vinyl and
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  Speaker 2: remastered here in the States over the last few years,
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  Speaker 2: so that's kind of it's kind of a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lead up to that.
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  Speaker 3: You know okay, And you mentioned like experimenting, like you
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  Speaker 3: are a band who's experiment a lot with your sound
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  Speaker 3: over the years. So trading all these songs together, but
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  Speaker 3: was it difficult to sort of put them in order
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  Speaker 3: on the album so that they had a tohesin flight room?
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  Speaker 3: I guess because they're all so different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we you know, we actually released a version of
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  Speaker 2: this on cassette only about a year and a half
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  Speaker 2: ago for a little tour we did to Texas and back,
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  Speaker 2: and so we put a lot it's actually a longer
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  Speaker 2: version of it on just a cassette only because that
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  Speaker 2: just I don't know, we're just being weird, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And this is this is kind of the condensed version
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  Speaker 2: with the new the new material, And yeah, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the It's really about all I got
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  Speaker 2: to say on that.
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  Speaker 3: So one of the songs on there is called Undone,
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  Speaker 3: and it was from your scene in the nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 3: four movies Strange Days that was considered too noisy for
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  Speaker 3: the soundtrack. But this is a story I've got to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a that story is really strange. We
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  Speaker 2: were recording our second record, we were living in New
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  Speaker 2: York City with at Martin Bec's studio recording that second
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  Speaker 2: record for for Columbia Records at the time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of a I don't how much time
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  Speaker 1: I have, but.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, as much as you want, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Because I can't get sometimes these stories I will tell
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  Speaker 2: and I gotta go yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The uh uh for that film, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with it.
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  Speaker 2: Juliet Lewis has a band in the film and and
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  Speaker 2: she's she's recording, she's performing these PG Harvey songs while
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  Speaker 2: she had been working in the studio in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: at the time, and h the guy, the music director
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  Speaker 2: for the film, was chatting up a mutual friend of
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  Speaker 2: ours that worked in the studio and he was just
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  Speaker 2: saying he was looking for another artist that he wanted
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  Speaker 2: something very apocalyptic, and she sall, I.
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  Speaker 1: Got the perfect band.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the studio right now, shared some of the
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  Speaker 2: record that we were working on for that in a perfect,
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  Speaker 2: perfect World record. In turn, they said, well, we want
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  Speaker 2: an original song, so we wrote something specific for it.
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  Speaker 2: They accepted it sound a contract. In the middle of
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  Speaker 2: recording over there, they flew us out to California and
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  Speaker 2: we spent two weeks on set, and we appear in
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  Speaker 2: the film.
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  Speaker 1: But the song did never get released. It didn't get
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  Speaker 1: added to the.
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  Speaker 2: Soundtrack because it's just if they wanted something apocalyptic and
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  Speaker 2: we delivered it. It's brutal, probably one of the most
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  Speaker 2: brutal things we've ever written, to be honest. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it gets gets to see the light of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what did I think he was too brutal or
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  Speaker 3: what's the reason for isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: I assume they had I mean, the soundtrack had quite
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  Speaker 2: a few acts on it, and I just think I
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  Speaker 2: think it just was.
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  Speaker 1: It just was too brutal.
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  Speaker 3: But I kept you in the movie, but not your music.
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  Speaker 2: The music, the music is in the film, all right, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's just not on the the you know, the released soundtrack.
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  Speaker 1: The CD. You know, so that music.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: They looped the film.
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  Speaker 2: The song was only two and a half minutes long,
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  Speaker 2: and our scene ended up be longer, so they looped it.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost twice as long.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a trip so cool, and am I
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  Speaker 3: correcting sound that. Over the course of one eight hundred meltdown,
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  Speaker 3: every past and present member of Season two Risk appears
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  Speaker 3: on the least one track.
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  Speaker 2: I well, I think everyone that actually recorded something with us.
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  Speaker 2: We had a few few got cats in there that
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  Speaker 2: ever got a chance to record with us, but we've
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  Speaker 2: had quite a few members over the years.
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  Speaker 3: The dijectually set out to do that to cover everybody
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  Speaker 3: that's recorded with you on the album. Or did you
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  Speaker 3: just work out that way.
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  Speaker 2: I think it just worked out that way. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even realize it until you mentioned it, So that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: That makes me kind of happy because I don't have
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  Speaker 2: ill will of any We never had any bad drama
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  Speaker 2: in the band. It just kind of circumstances why people
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  Speaker 2: left came to change.
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  Speaker 3: You've spoken a few times about the new song on
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  Speaker 3: the album, which is called Echo Chamber. It's your first
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  Speaker 3: new music in twenty five years of my life. That's
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  Speaker 3: a quarter of a century. Tell us, tell us about
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  Speaker 3: the song.
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  Speaker 2: The song we even over the last year. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we're kind of spread out it across the States. We
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  Speaker 2: don't all live here, and our guitar players as a
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  Speaker 2: killer studio and he that's what he does for a
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  Speaker 2: living in his record bands, and we would get together
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  Speaker 2: to go do you know shows in the region, or
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  Speaker 2: go you know, we always never fully stop. We just
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  Speaker 2: get together do stuff, but we go into the studio
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  Speaker 2: and just kind of jam stuff. And this one, this
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  Speaker 2: particular one, kind of stuck out to us as something
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  Speaker 2: that had potential, so we kept working on it remotely
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  Speaker 2: and adding to it, and.
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  Speaker 1: You know, lyric. You know, in the States, we've.
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  Speaker 2: Gone through some weird political stuff lately, and the world
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  Speaker 2: knows and a lot of that. A lot of what
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  Speaker 2: I've always written about in some of our other records
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  Speaker 2: is about technology and kind of futurism stuff, a little
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  Speaker 2: science fiction thrown in there. You know, literature and film
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  Speaker 2: have always informed me, but also what's currently happening in
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  Speaker 2: the world. And the echo chamber concept was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of just about how social media has kind of
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  Speaker 2: kind of damaged us as a society, and not not
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  Speaker 2: just our country.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the I think you.
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  Speaker 2: Humanity to some degree, and the manipulation of it, and
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  Speaker 2: you know how we don't really have the best view
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  Speaker 2: of what is going on in our world because we
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  Speaker 2: are kind of trapped in our little echo chambers and
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  Speaker 2: are kind of self affirming, you know, loops. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's really what I was trying to express in that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and kind of really more the I'm you know,
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  Speaker 2: I let people put their own interpretation of things, let
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  Speaker 2: things speak to them how they will.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to beat people over.
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  Speaker 2: The head, but I you know, I have my opinions,
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  Speaker 2: but I think the idea is too to reflect on
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  Speaker 2: it and figure out how to to maybe make the
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  Speaker 2: world a little better eventually.
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  Speaker 3: And there's during that song re ignited the Flying I
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  Speaker 3: guess to keep writing.
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  Speaker 1: More new material, Yes, yeah, we have.
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  Speaker 2: We probably have about we are probably close to a
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  Speaker 2: full album worth of music and it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: honed and and defined. We need to find the time
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  Speaker 2: to get into the studio and do it. And that's
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  Speaker 2: really what we want to get this thing out. And
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  Speaker 2: we're doing some dates here in the States in April
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  Speaker 2: to support that, and then we we're looking at some options.
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  Speaker 2: We never got to go overseas for any of the
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  Speaker 2: in the past. And the records, the Columbia Records are
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  Speaker 2: being reissued. I can't I can't say what label yet,
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  Speaker 2: but they will be reissued, remastered. There are remastered, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll be reissued in the next over the next twelve months.
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  Speaker 2: So we're hoping to see that see the light of
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  Speaker 2: day and push us to.
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  Speaker 3: Do more nice and within new music. Like what direction
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  Speaker 3: has it take? Like, as we said before, you've done
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  Speaker 3: a lot of experimenting in your time as a band,
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  Speaker 3: but you've had twenty five years without writing new material together,
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  Speaker 3: so you have obviously probably gone in different directions again
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  Speaker 3: since you since you last rite together. So this new material,
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  Speaker 3: what shape has it taken?
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  Speaker 2: I think I think, well, Billy Smith who's the bass player,
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  Speaker 2: and and the other second guitar player, Wade Williams and
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  Speaker 2: I we've done a project together, several different projects over
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  Speaker 2: the years. Dwayne and I are still very close and
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  Speaker 2: and his his side projects. We've toured together, and we
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  Speaker 2: all still kind of I think my live in the
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  Speaker 2: same mindset and the same kind of influences still kind
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  Speaker 2: of around and we're always we're both we're we all
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  Speaker 2: still working in the music world. So raw he's constantly sharing,
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  Speaker 2: you know stuff, and I think the Echo Chamber and
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  Speaker 2: the newer stuff it is it really is a continuation
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  Speaker 2: of what we did on The Shattering that came out
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, and that record, I think
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  Speaker 2: was in my mind was a bit ahead of its time,
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  Speaker 2: came out at a very weird time between uh CD
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  Speaker 2: and streaming hadn't really started yet, and it was just
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  Speaker 2: kind of starting.
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  Speaker 1: And and again it was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we worked with Bill Stevenson from The Descendants
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  Speaker 2: on that record and at his studio and they were
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  Speaker 2: just I think they just really nailed the sound. And
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  Speaker 2: I think we're kind of it's a continuation of that
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  Speaker 2: just happened to take a long time.
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  Speaker 3: How before that, you guys, Steve, I've got any segment
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  Speaker 3: of introduced called foto Bomb And so basically before we speak,
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  Speaker 3: I've gone through controlled your social media. I've come up
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  Speaker 3: with some fightos that I want to know a bit
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  Speaker 3: more about. We'll start with this one. What happened he
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  Speaker 3: did the radiot is Springing Lake or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is Dwayne, and that is we had
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  Speaker 2: a recording studio on the west side of town and
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  Speaker 2: that was right behind it and it flooded. It went
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  Speaker 2: about another three feet higher than that.
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  Speaker 1: He was there.
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  Speaker 2: They just did that snapshot, you know, but it was
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  Speaker 2: kind of tragic and we lost our whole recording studio,
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  Speaker 2: We lost our master tapes. It was pretty tragic. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's you know, you kind of have to be take
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  Speaker 2: a little clown when you're dealing with that kind of shit.
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking it. He didn't drive it out of that.
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  Speaker 2: Then that wasn't even his car, it was just a
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  Speaker 2: car across the Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, and then I found this one like, oh, how
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  Speaker 3: did you get up here? And then importantly how did
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  Speaker 3: you get down? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: That Uh I was I'm I'm not a surprise as
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  Speaker 2: I used to be. So I don't know if that
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  Speaker 2: will be happening on this new tour. But uh, I
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  Speaker 2: used to always climb all over shit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was just pure ajournaline and alcohol usually, and.
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  Speaker 1: I think I came down by uh uh, probably just
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  Speaker 1: fell on some people's faces.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Benny Side, he used to climb myself.
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  Speaker 3: Did ever go pearshak? Did you ever fall off?
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  Speaker 2: For Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I had some tragic tragic fails. Uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: wiped out. Uh. This was just a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: We were in Texas for the No Coast Music Fest
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  Speaker 2: and I I thought there was a wall behind the
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  Speaker 2: curtain and there was not, and I totally just took
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  Speaker 2: out the whole fucking good tar rigging and I was
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  Speaker 2: pretty Uh, I don't know, I kind of lose myself
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  Speaker 2: when I when that when the ship starts pumbling, and
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of go a little ape ship and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Turn ship all right, Stable, Thanks very much for you
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  Speaker 3: talk me. It's been a pleasure speaking with you. One
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred meltdown from Season to Risk is at April twelve.
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  Speaker 3: The boys are headed out across the States for a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a draw, and I'm pretty sure we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: hear more stuff from you in the near future, like.
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