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Breonna Taylor and the Louisville Gentrification Squad · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm doing well. I've pivoted well, I
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  Speaker 1: in lifestyle and and I'm not hating it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm thriving a little bit. It's fine,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's It's the thing I feel a little guilty about,
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like I should be struggling more, at
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  Speaker 2: least in terms of the coronavirus stuff, and I'm just not.
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  Speaker 2: It's I'm like, we could be locked down for another
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  Speaker 2: year and I'd be like, that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just assume, like my estimate is
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to be living like this for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of twenty twenty. We might get a vaccine by
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  Speaker 1: January and then things could change. But it's just sort
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  Speaker 1: of like, Okay, this is this is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out. And I think, you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot more energy because it's like I'm not sitting
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  Speaker 1: in LA traffic for hours anymore. I'm not, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going to do stand up shows every night, like which
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot of energy, so you know, I get
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  Speaker 1: to focus on like internet shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Back when we were able to go places
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  Speaker 2: like I would still try and book shows, and then
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  Speaker 2: when I would book a show, I'd be like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do this fucking show. I know, what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck and.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm being What I'm learning now is like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to be so excessive. I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: I just I hate the rat race and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the rat race had to be canceled a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been worse things. I mean, coronavirus is
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  Speaker 2: a fucking tragedy and hundreds of thousands of people have died.
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  Speaker 2: But still, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well that's the thing. Is us like suffering
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  Speaker 1: for the sake of suffering, I don't know, is.
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  Speaker 2: Productive, Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you might as well make the best
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  Speaker 1: of the situation. I mean, I wear masks, I quarantine
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  Speaker 1: like I'm in contact with is like a limited amount
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  Speaker 1: of people physically, and then I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: it sucks. I lost an uncle to it. I lost
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  Speaker 1: a friend. My friend was only thirty years old. It
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  Speaker 1: was in the Bronx when it was bad. Every one
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  Speaker 1: of my family is a frontline worker, so they've seen
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  Speaker 1: the worst of it. But it is nice to have
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  Speaker 1: sort of inside information, like frontline information.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bet at least when it's good information,
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  Speaker 2: at least well it's.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's accurate, and I sort of you know who,
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  Speaker 1: you know how corporate news media.
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  Speaker 2: Is, do I ever?
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  Speaker 1: I just want some fucking news from the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of corporate news media, it seems like we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about coronavirus this week, but we are not. But
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  Speaker 2: we are talking about something that I feel like the
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  Speaker 2: corporate news media hasn't really latched onto too strongly. For
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  Speaker 2: one thing, we're talking about the death of Breonna Taylor, which,
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  Speaker 2: prior to George Floyd, this is an incident that was
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  Speaker 2: not getting much attention in general. So it's at least
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  Speaker 2: good that people are talking about it now, but not
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  Speaker 2: much has happened in terms of justice, and the story
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  Speaker 2: just keeps getting fucking weirder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's odd that you know, it seems pretty
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  Speaker 1: obvious you know, arrest the cops who killed Breonna Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a meme.
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  Speaker 2: Now, not a meme, but like it's kind of a meme, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or a catch for it. It's like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's something that people are saying a lot that phrase it,
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  Speaker 1: and so it is odd that it's taking so long,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes you think, like, well, why is it
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  Speaker 1: taking so long? What's going on? Internally?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fun thing to reply to cops
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter with. That's where I see it the most.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever any police department posts anything even sort of positive,
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to be like, all right, but arrest the
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  Speaker 2: people that killed Breonna Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, yeah, I had like my spicy
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  Speaker 1: funians were delicious, So arrest of the cops that killed
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  Speaker 1: Brionna Taylor, you know, like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have not been arrested yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, like, I'm not surprised that it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It caught momentum after or during the George Floyd thing
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  Speaker 1: because women, especially women of color, are so marginalized and
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  Speaker 1: just sort of swept under. So I think it brought
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  Speaker 1: police brutality in general to the forefront. And because her
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  Speaker 1: case just happened. Her family was able to like get
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  Speaker 1: the word out, and then I think with all the
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  Speaker 1: civil rights stuff people were talking about, like intersectionality and
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  Speaker 1: marginalization and how like, you know, how come we can
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  Speaker 1: move swiftly, more swiftly for you know, the men than
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  Speaker 1: the women. And yeah, it doesn't I was just going
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  Speaker 1: to say, it doesn't help that it seems like this
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  Speaker 1: case could be a lot more complicated. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into the complicating detail for people
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  Speaker 2: who aren't familiar, I figure we should just run through
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  Speaker 2: the facts in the Brianna Taylor murder. Shortly after midnight
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  Speaker 2: on March thirteenth, twenty twenty, Louisville police entered the apartment
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  Speaker 2: of Brianna Taylor and Kenneth Walker, using a battering ram
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  Speaker 2: to force the door open, and they were investigating two
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  Speaker 2: men who they suspected of selling drugs. But both of
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  Speaker 2: those men lived ten miles away from Brianna Taylor. But
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  Speaker 2: she had a previous relationship with one of them, JaMarcus Glover.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it was again, this was not her
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  Speaker 1: current boyfriend. This is just someone she had a passive
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  Speaker 1: friendship with right.
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  Speaker 2: She apparently had been she had dated him at one
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  Speaker 2: point and now they were just friends. And police obtained
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  Speaker 2: a no knock search warrant based on the suggestion that
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  Speaker 2: Glover was receiving packages at Taylor's apartment. So in that
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  Speaker 2: detail is pretty important, but we'll get to it. But
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  Speaker 2: what happened after getting this warrant approved? They show up
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  Speaker 2: at her house after midnight, and they claim they entered
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  Speaker 2: the residence after knocking several times and announcing themselves as
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  Speaker 2: police officers. But Brianna Taylor's boyfriend disputes that. All of
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  Speaker 2: the neighbors also dispute that. And seeing how it's called
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  Speaker 2: a no knock warrant, who.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe telling the truth?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, Like who do you trust? The cops
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  Speaker 2: who had a no knock war aren't in their pocket?
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  Speaker 2: Or the neighbors who say they never heard them knock,
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  Speaker 2: like of course, like.
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  Speaker 1: They're looking for JaMarcus Glover, how come they don't go
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  Speaker 1: to his residence?
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  Speaker 2: Right? And they they did. They executed five search warrants
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  Speaker 2: in this case, and they did end up going to
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  Speaker 2: his residence, but they also went to Brionna Taylor's residence
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  Speaker 2: and only one of them died as a result of
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  Speaker 2: the police showing up.
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  Speaker 1: And these were all no knock search warrants, right for
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  Speaker 1: this case.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they were all no knock search warrants. And I
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  Speaker 2: believe they have since banned no knock search warrants.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they have, which yeah, progressily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so can they call it law?
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  Speaker 1: I think I think they call it Brianna's law. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, still no arrests have been made.
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  Speaker 2: Right one of the have all of the cops even
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  Speaker 2: lost their jobs?
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  Speaker 1: I think only one of them and then two have
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  Speaker 1: been reassigned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy who I would consider got her killed
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  Speaker 2: has only been reassigned. I know that. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: guy who signed the warrant.
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  Speaker 1: Well, can they tell it's only one person? Because there
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  Speaker 1: was such like there were bullets coming from everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What happened is they were trying to kick the
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  Speaker 2: door in and Kenneth Walker, who is a licensed gun owner,
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  Speaker 2: shouted out who is it? And no one responded, so
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  Speaker 2: he assumed that someone was trying to break in his apartment,
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  Speaker 2: so he started shooting. And he did shoot first and
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  Speaker 2: hit a cop in the leg, and then the police
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  Speaker 2: returned fire and shot twenty times into the apartment, including
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  Speaker 2: one cop who shot through a closed window where the
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  Speaker 2: blinds were also closed too.
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  Speaker 1: It's just once it once cops are triggered to shoot.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's so excessive, it's so intense, like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. And then also it's just like Kenneth was
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  Speaker 1: he wrong, like he was in theory getting his apartment
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  Speaker 1: was getting broken into by people who did not announce themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, charges against him have been dropped.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, after you know, I think you know, the this
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  Speaker 1: movement started taking place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a lot of public outrage for it
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  Speaker 2: to happen, but charges against him were dropped, and of
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  Speaker 2: course they should be dropped, like.
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  Speaker 1: They're dropped, but I think I read somewhere that they're
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  Speaker 1: dropped for now. They could, you know, they could reinvestigate.
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  Speaker 2: Or I think the FBI is investigating the incident, and
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  Speaker 2: they said the FBI could in theory charge him again,
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  Speaker 2: but I really can't picture that happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't be wise. I mean, it'd be stupid.
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  Speaker 2: And the police always do such wise right now smart things,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm not going to stop trusting them now, So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they fire twenty times, like that cop who shot through
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  Speaker 2: the closed window, there could have been a kid on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of that window. How do you just
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  Speaker 2: fire indiscriminately without being able to see what you're shooting at.
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  Speaker 2: That's so crazyus.
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  Speaker 1: It's super reckless, especially the one coming from outside, because
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  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're shooting through blinds, like you don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the fuck you're shooting at. And then it's
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  Speaker 1: night time so it's probably dark, and yet you don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and like it's an apartment building, so you could kill
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  Speaker 1: someone in another apartment.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that there haven't been any charges in this
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  Speaker 2: case at all just blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my guess is because they were shot at,
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  Speaker 1: the response was to shoot back. But just the way
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  Speaker 1: it was executed was so sloppy because he kind of
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  Speaker 1: walker was well within his rights to defend himself against
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  Speaker 1: unannounced intruders. They were cops, they were in unmarked cars,
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  Speaker 1: they were.
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  Speaker 2: Plain clothes, didn't have they weren't even wearing police uniforms.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think people who work in narcotics generally don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but again, it was sloppy. It was
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  Speaker 1: really sloppy. It was and as a result, someone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an innocent person was killed in her own home.
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  Speaker 2: And it gets crazier because for a couple of months,
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  Speaker 2: this Brianna Taylor's death happened, and then the George Floyd
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  Speaker 2: protests start and people start calling for justice for Brianna Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: as they should. And then just last week, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: or a couple of weeks ago, Brianna Taylor's family, well,
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  Speaker 2: I should backtrack a little. Her family filed a wrongful
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  Speaker 2: death lawsuit against the City of Louisville, and they just
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  Speaker 2: recently amended their lawsuit to make a pretty crazy claim,
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  Speaker 2: which is that her death and the warrants that were
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  Speaker 2: issued in her death were not about investigating drugs. They
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  Speaker 2: were about furthering a revitalization or gentrification plan, whatever you
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  Speaker 2: want to call it, called Vision Russell, and that's basically
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  Speaker 2: an initiative that's happening in Louisville. Some people call it revitalization,
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  Speaker 2: some people call it gentrification, probably a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 2: In the final months of the Obama administration, Louisville won
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  Speaker 2: a thirty million dollar federal grant to pay for this
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  Speaker 2: project that's part of the budget. It's a two hundred
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  Speaker 2: million dollar budget overall, and there's a smaller project within
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  Speaker 2: it called Keeping it Real Elliott Street Redevelopment. Fucking what
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  Speaker 2: what is the keeping it real part about? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 2: mean I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I if the government, if you know, government wants to
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  Speaker 1: use cutec names. Yeah, stuff, it's you know, I guess
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  Speaker 1: they're prerogative, but it is silly.
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  Speaker 2: You know, have people said keeping it real this decade?
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  Speaker 2: I think that, like die in two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I still keep it real, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it stands out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you can one can keep it real without
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  Speaker 2: saying it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, why are you Why are you protesting
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  Speaker 1: so much? Why do you tell you why do you
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  Speaker 1: keep talking about keeping it real? Are you really keeping
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  Speaker 1: it real?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What are you hid?
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  Speaker 2: I don't trust people who say they keep it real
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  Speaker 2: too much. People aren't keeping it real.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah. So that's where the death of Breonna Taylor
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  Speaker 1: intersects with Vision Russell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The family they amended their lawsuit. Basically, their claim
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  Speaker 2: is that the warrant that led to Breonna Taylor's death
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  Speaker 2: was issued not because of drugs, but because JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 2: was an obstacle to the Elliott Street redevelopment portion of
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  Speaker 2: Vision Russell. He rented a home in the twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hundred block of Elliott Avenue in the Russell neighborhood, so
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  Speaker 2: that would put him right in the middle of where
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  Speaker 2: all this redevelopment was happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just a reminder that JaMarcus is the ex
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend of Breonna Taylor and they remained casual friends or
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  Speaker 1: passive friends, right.
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  Speaker 2: And JaMarcus Glover has had previous drug charges before, he's
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  Speaker 2: been arrested for drugs. He was arrested as a result
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  Speaker 2: of these warrants. They did find guns and drugs in
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  Speaker 2: the home that he rented. But the argument the police
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  Speaker 2: have always made is that JaMarcus Glover is not just
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  Speaker 2: a drug dealer, He's one of the biggest drug dealers
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  Speaker 2: in Louisville. And it's turning out that that's probably not
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  Speaker 2: the case. He was just kind of an average street
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  Speaker 2: level drug dealer. And what he also was was a
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  Speaker 2: person who lived in the middle of this development that
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  Speaker 2: they were trying. They were basically trying to tear down
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  Speaker 2: homes in this stretch of Elliott Avenue and JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 2: lived there and wasn't moving, like he was just there
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  Speaker 2: and wasn't going to leave a lot of residents had
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  Speaker 2: already left and he was not leaving. So they start
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  Speaker 2: investigating JaMarcus Glover under the guise of drugs and they
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  Speaker 2: issue this warrant for Brianna Taylor, and the warrant says
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  Speaker 2: that a US Postal inspector confirmed he'd been receiving packages
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  Speaker 2: at Brionna Taylor's residence. That makes it sound like the
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  Speaker 2: US Postal inspector was receiving them. No, I mean JaMarcus
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  Speaker 2: Glover was receiving packages at Brionna Taylor's residence.
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  Speaker 1: But what they failed to leave out of the warrant
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  Speaker 1: is that the it failed to mention the same postal
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  Speaker 1: inspectors said there were no packages of interest being received there.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which should have gotten that warrant shut down if
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  Speaker 2: that's the basis for the warrant, that he's receiving packages there,
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  Speaker 2: and then the postal inspector says, yeah, it's like fucking
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  Speaker 2: sweatshirts from Amazon. Who It's not like drugs, Like the
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  Speaker 2: warrant at that point should have been shut down and
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  Speaker 2: never approved, but instead it was approved based on this
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  Speaker 2: information that Breonna Taylor was getting packages for JaMarcus Glover
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  Speaker 2: sent to her apartment, but they weren't suspicious packages, and
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  Speaker 2: that part was never mentioned. So the warrant goes through
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  Speaker 2: the detective who wrote the affidavit seeking the warrant. His
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  Speaker 2: name's Detective Joshua Jaans. He's been placed on administrative reassignment
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  Speaker 2: until questions about how and why the search warrant was
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  Speaker 2: approved or answered. That'll show him go do a different
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  Speaker 2: job for a while. You're being punished, Like that's such
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  Speaker 2: egregious misconduct to willingly leave out arguably the most important detail,
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  Speaker 2: which is that nothing suspicious was happening.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is that that doesn't seem like that
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  Speaker 1: seems like something that probably happens often. Oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: he wanted that warrant. I mean, like no one went
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  Speaker 1: into that house knowing exactly what was going to go down,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But again, it was this not following protocol
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  Speaker 1: and being reckless that led to this just tragic, totally
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  Speaker 1: unnecessary debt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the part that I think really needs
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  Speaker 2: to be investigated. I think this detail is the part
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  Speaker 2: that really needs to be investigated, Like how did that
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  Speaker 2: warrant get approved in the first place. Breonna Taylor's family
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  Speaker 2: they amended their lawsuit and basically what they allege is
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  Speaker 2: that the narcotics officers who executed the warrant were misled
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  Speaker 2: into believing that they were doing it in an effort
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  Speaker 2: to take down some of Louisville's biggest drug dealers, and
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  Speaker 2: that the people who misled them were another newly formed
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  Speaker 2: police squad called Place Based Investigations, and that's who detective
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  Speaker 2: Jans worked for. He was not the cop who signed
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  Speaker 2: this warrant, was not a narcotics officer. He was with
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  Speaker 2: this Place Based Investigations, which has also been working on
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  Speaker 2: cleaning up areas tied to this Vision Russell project.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I kind of wanted, like it the
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  Speaker 1: call to action specifically for Brionna Taylor's to arrest the
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  Speaker 1: cops who shot Brionna Taylor. But in a way, if
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  Speaker 1: this is true, were they were pawns? And yes, they
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  Speaker 1: you know, acted recklessly in a way that ended up
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  Speaker 1: murdering someone, But if they were misled, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think more beyond them, something bigger needs to be held
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  Speaker 1: culpable the system, the department. You know that it's it's
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  Speaker 1: beyond just those individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that is what has aroused her
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  Speaker 2: family's suspicion, Like, not just the fact that they lied
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  Speaker 2: to obtain this warrant, but if you're lying to obtain
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  Speaker 2: a warrant against someone who, as it turns out, is
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  Speaker 2: not the huge drug dealer you've portrayed them to be,
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  Speaker 2: then what was the motivation? And I think that's that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what they're getting at by amending this lawsuit,
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  Speaker 2: is was this the motivation? Was it just so you
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  Speaker 2: could get this one resident out of Elliott Avenue And
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: as a result, they filed all of these warrants and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: started trying to take him down as a drug dealer
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and fucking killed Breonna Taylor in the process. So yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: it's it's bigger than the cops who shot her. They're
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: definitely not innocent, Obviously they have some culpability in it,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: but yeah, the reason they were there might not be
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: completely their fault. It seems like what's being implied is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that those cops were lied to.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, they were misled. They didn't have all the information.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: They were kind of like foot soldiers, whereas like you
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: know who who's giving the orders. Where how deep does
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: this go? Like, you know, if it is related to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: this development, and you know, this theory points to that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: direction since like they're really going out of their way
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to to target JaMarcus this, you know, someone who's not
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a huge drug dealer, but they're saying they're going after
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: him for drugs. But like, you know, there's such a
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: specific issue that the city has with him, like why
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: are they going like why are they going so all
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: out with this one dude, like above and beyond? And
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it looks like it's because they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: want his property. They want him to move, they want
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that lot. They like they earlier that year, they took
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: over about eight lots on that same block.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, about a month before Breonna Taylor died, the city
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: demolished eight different houses on this one block, all within
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: one week. And in these sixteen years prior, nine houses
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: total had been demolished in that area. And not only that,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but immediately after JaMarcus Glover was finally arrested, they bought
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the house he was renting for one dollar and the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: fair market value of the home granted was only seventeen
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty dollars, but still one dollar is
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: all they paid for it, and with that they were
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: able to proceed with cleaning up Elliott Avenue. And one
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: of the other things they point out in their lawsuit
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: is that the first five no knock warrants of twenty
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: twenty were all issued in this case, which is again
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: really suspect if it turns out JaMarcus Glover was not
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the drug dealer they were making amount to be, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that's such an intense effort to take down one person.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you question the motive.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Louisville. We just did an episode of the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: main unpopular opinion podcast about a TV show called sixty
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Days in Narco Land. You ever seen it?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I haven't.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It's the most problematic show on television. Basically like if
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the TV show Cops and the TV show Survivor had
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a baby and that baby should have been killed on
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the delivery room table, but instead it grew up and
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: thrived and turned into the worst show on television. It's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: basically a show. It's like Cops, but there are like
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: reality show contestants who they embed in like poor communities
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and jails, who are just there to like spy on
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: people and get information that the police who are behind
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: this show will then use to further their investigations. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it takes place in Louisville or very close to Louisville.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And even on that show, the cops like they focus
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: on this one drug dealer, alleged drug dealer named Lil Skinny,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: which fucking justice for Little Skinny watched the show. They
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: really fuck with this guy relentlessly and at one point
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: they show up at his house and they find a
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: personal use bag of weed, one gun, and fifteen thousand
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: dollars and that's what they end up arresting him for
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is a gun and personal use weed, And like half
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the show is about how this guy is the biggest
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: drug dealer in Louisville. And it's just a show about
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this fucking police department, I forget the name. It's close
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to Louisville, and it's just them fucking terrorizing people for entertainment.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And it's like it premiered a year after that same
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: police department had this huge scandal where two other cops
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: were working with drug cartels to distribute meth in the area.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And then a year later they get their own TV
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: show to try and fix their image. It's like fucking
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: abolish Louisville, Like fucking everyone moves somewhere else and we'll
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: just shut that city down.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But like you know, when like a building is infested,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: they put like a big tent it. Yeah, just put
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a big tent over louis Whiteville and.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: We figure it out, set off some police foggers, Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to drive the police out, then you can just send
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: people back in. So that's kind of where the Breonna
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Taylor case is now is. The family is now arguing
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that this was something way more than just indiscriminate police violence.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: There was actually a plot behind this that involved something
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that they're saying it's not, which I mean, I'm not
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: going to start siding with the police now, Like I
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: fucking I buy this, Like there there has to be
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a reason they focused on this one guy as hard
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: as they did, and it seems like it doesn't make sense. Reason.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense that they'd have such an obsession
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: with someone who's really like not a big player. You know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it is red flag for sure.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Right and especially with him being one of the ask
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: people to leave this area that they are desperately trying
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to revitalize or Gentrify.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like they didn't even try to make it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: worth his while. I assume they wanted him to break
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: his lease and just you know, moving's not like that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a big deal. I remember they were doing some sort
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of project in my hometown when I was younger, where
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they basically they wanted to make a bridge, so they
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: had to get rid of a few neighborhoods. And I'm
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: sure there was some financial incentive for it, but like
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I mean here, if they're buying the property for a dollar,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it just sounds like they want to.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really a It's a story as old
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: as time. Like like in La, the reason we have
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: this robust highway system is because we fucking put highways
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: in the middle of people's neighborhoods and drove them out
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: of their homes. Do you are you Are you familiar
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: with the Dodger Stadium story how we got Dodger Stadium?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I am not, but I'd love to hear it. It was.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium is in an area of La called Chavez Ravine,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and Chavez Ravine used to be this enclave of Mexican
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: people who basically, if you go back and look at pictures,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: like you can see all of LA and it looks
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: like La does now mostly there's lots of buildings, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: then it just looks like there's another country in the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: middle of LA. Like they had their own schools, they
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: had their own stores, they were a thriving community. The
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: area was kind of run down because they weren't rich,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but they were fine.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't incorporated, right, I believe it was okay. It
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was like its own city.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I think so, yeah. And what happened. What happened is
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: at one point, this guy who did have good intentions,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: he was like, here's what we're gonna do. We're going
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to go in and fix that area up and like
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: rebuild your houses, and you have to move while we
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: do that, but then you're all going to move back in.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And that was the plan, was to revitalize this area,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: move people out while they did it, and then move
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: him back in. And then after they got everyone moved out,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the city was like, hey, what you're doing. That sounds
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: like communism and we're really cracking down on communism in
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: this country right now. Because this was during the Red Scare.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It was when everyone in Hollywood was getting out at
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: his communists. So after everyone moved out, they sent the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: guy to fucking prison for a year and accused him
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of being a communist. And meanwhile, all of these people
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: had been displaced from Chavez Ravine.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: They're like talking about the developer was jailed.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy who wanted to come in and fix
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the area back up. They called him a communist, sent
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: him to jail for a year.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because developers are generally not known to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: care about the people they displace. You're you know, you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: just look at the.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Property he worked for the city. He wasn't like just
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: a real estate developer.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why it sounds like he's being punished
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: for having ethics.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Oh he was, he was. He was punished for trying
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to help poor people. Like anything that helped poor people
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: was considered communism in the.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Fifties, which is bad communist. You know, it's just such.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It's it's been hammered into us for decades. Like you
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: hear communism, you think bad. I mean that's in America.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: That's been drilled into us, and it's like, I don't
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people even really understand.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Oh no, definitely not so. So what happened. After they
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: got everyone out and sent that guy to jail, they
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: were like, all right, well, whatever we put there has
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to be for public use, public use. And they were like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: how about a new baseball stadium?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I wonder if they had that planned. You know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: they knew they wanted the baseball stadium, so they're like, well,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: how can we how can we get this guy out
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of the way.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like that was the plan. And then
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and they.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Used whatever power they have, whatever authority they have to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like you know, play fast and loose and and see
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: their agenda, you know, manifest.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so the city was able to buy back
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: all of the Chevez Ravine land for like cents on
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the dollar and put up fucking Dodger Stadium. There is
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a school buried under Dodger Stadium. Like in a thousand years,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: archaeologists are going to see that and be like, these
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: motherfuckers have their priorities wrong.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The stadium.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a school in Chevez Ravine and they
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: decided it was easier instead of tearing it down, They
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: just took the roof and the floors out and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: just filled it with sand. So there was a school
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: buried under Dodger Stadium.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: That's like, you know, that's like, is Dodgers Stadium haunted?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like poltergeist. It is the poltergeist of baseball stadiums.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they didn't move the bodies. You should have
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: moved the bodies.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You sick. And yeah, So like gentrification, it isn't just
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: oh shit, there's a Starbucks in the neighborhood. Now, there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: usually some political maneuvering behind it, and people get fucking
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: hurt and it's seems you don't have power or agency.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, money And essentially if you don't have a
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: shit ton of money, then it's like you're sort of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: at the mercy of those who do.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I wonder had it not been for the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: George Floyd murder leading to all of these protests, I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: wonder if we would even be at this point in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the Breonna Taylor investigation, Like would this part have even
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: come out if they didn't get all of that renewed
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: attention around the case, Like if these protests never happened,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: because it didn't seem like they were going to happen
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: because of Breonna Taylor's murder, Like if they never happened
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder if we would even know about this gentrification
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: angle to her death at all.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: It's possible we wouldn't. It's possible this would have just
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been many incidents like this that have
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: gotten swept under the table. It's just that I think
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the timing of this, it just was the wrong crime
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: at the right time.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, there's still not justice in this case.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's gotten a whole lot weirder and by the time
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: this goes up, things might have gotten very interesting in
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Louisville over the weekend because there is a black armed
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: militia headed to Louisville this weekend. And like, for so
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: many years, people have been saying like, oh, here's what
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to take for American outlaw guns. Black people
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: need to start open carrying guns. And it's like, we're
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: about to find out if that's true, because.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: There is people to just like, do you have to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: have a license to open carry?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: You have to have a license. But if it's an
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: open carry state, that's why I always read TEXI it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Is Kentucky, so probably anyone can walk around with a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: gun if they're licensed to, right.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's an open carry state, and you have
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a license, you can walk around with your gun. That's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: how all these redneck chodes end up showing up at
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter protests and waving guns around. And this group,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they're called the Not Fucking Around Coalition, they do appear
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to not be fucking around. There are videos online of
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: them marching in different areas of the country. There are
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of motherfuckers with a lot of guns. They
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: are heading to Louisville this weekend. A link to the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: video statement from their leader, a guy who calls himself
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Grandmaster Jay, and he's like, we're not there for violence.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: We're not there to hunt people. We just want some
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: people arrested. And it's like, oh, I was.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Just gonna say again, you know, I think people. I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: think people need to dig deeper because arresting the individuals
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is not that's not where it ends. Like you know
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you know, people go and arrest
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Nazies or whatever, but like if you didn't arrest you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Hitler still needs to be arrested.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. On the solo episode did last week, it's about
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a movie that is about the murder of Notorious Big.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And that's a good example of what you're talking about
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: where Yeah, it would be cool if we arrested the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: people who pulled the trigger, but they're tied to something
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: so much bigger, to the point that just arresting them
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: would kind of still be an injustice, Like you need
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: to get the people that led them to do this.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they would probably are the lower people, like
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the lower level people in this theory, and they could
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: be disposable. And whoever is you know, truly culpable for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: pulling the strings could go on doing what they do
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the shadows.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So hopefully they do get to the bottom of
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: all of this, and not just I mean, there needs
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to be some sort of justice for the cops who
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: did it, but I hope they are able to pursue
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: this and tie it to something bigger, because it seems
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: like it is tied to something bigger. I also hope
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: lots of people don't die in Louisville this weekend. I
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: guess by the time this goes up. Well know the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: thing about that group, I mean I don't know their
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: leader has lots of law enforcement energy about him.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of thee yeah, I master.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Grandmaster J. And I'll link to some of their videos
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: judge for yourself. Group just materialized out of nowhere in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So when you say he has law enforcement energy, like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: former law enforcement energy, or like, do you think the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: organization the coalition is being directed by the government.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It feels like a plot of some sort. It doesn't
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: strike me as an organic thing, which I don't know
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: if it would be tied to our government or a government.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: But he's just got that. Like we talked about, it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem as simple as they're there to just protest
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: this one specific thing.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Right, And I'm always suspicious when really big groups just
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: pop up out of nowhere, or we did. We did
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: an episode about the Frazzle Drip conspiracy a couple weeks ago,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and one of the really weird things about that is
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I came across this Twitter account. This guy calls himself
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the Legendary Punisher and just came out of nowhere. There's
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: a video of him giving this long fucking rant to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a right wing reporter at a fucking Trump rally, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: that video was recorded in June of twenty twenty. His
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Twitter account went online in June of twenty twenty, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: he's already got thirty two thousand followers. His account wasn't
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: taken down as part of the they just took down
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a bunch of qan On accounts. His account is still
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: up and if you watch his videos, he seems like
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a wrestler. He seems like a professional wrestler doing one
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: of those in between match interviews that wrestlers do. Like
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: he seems like a guy who's doing a bit, And
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the fact that he just appeared out of nowhere and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden is like this leading voice when
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it comes to Pizzagate, it's like, who the fuck are you? Yeah, Like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: before you want me to believe that you are somehow
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: fighting a good fight against evil in the world, show
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me your fucking driver's license, Tell me your real goddamn
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: name so I can background check you. But no one's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: doing that because everyone just sees it like I don't know.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: He's probably got sixty thousand followers by now, and weirdly
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: was not taken down as part of all those QAnon accounts.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: What's this guy's name?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: He calls himself the Legendary Punisher, but his Twitter handle
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: is Legendary puniss two Punis and then the number two.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's his name.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a basic handle.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guy, he's got number two thirty four thousand followers.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Account was launched in June of twenty twenty, and it's
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: all pizzagate and QAnon shit. Yeah. I think there are
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: forces out there, whether it's the American government, the Russian government,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: fucking Boogloo Chodes, who goddamn knows, but there are people
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: trying to take advantage of what's happening in the country
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: right now for political reasons.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Oh of course.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I mean there's that political saying that never waste a
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: good disaster.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know it's exciting seeing a huge group
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: of black people carrying guns through Louisville in support of
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Breonna Taylor. But I would keep your suspicions with you
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: until we have more information on that group, because they
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: could just be there to make protesters look extremely violent.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it could be like an image moved to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: like just just those sort of similar to like the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: cops setting their own cars on fire and throwing bricks
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: through windows during our protest. So they're trying to create
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a different narrative. It's like playing chess, you know.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I don't have any proof that that's happening.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: But man, I'm not. I am suspicious of this group's motives,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: even if they're seemingly on the right side. That's fine.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean when there's like a lot of like, you know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: deadly assault weapons, I think it's good to just try
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to get the information first. Yeah, you know, like, what
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: are they about. It's a whole lot of people carrying
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of guns.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, before you enthusiastically endorse them taking over your streets,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you know, just ask yourself if maybe that's not a
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: great solution either. Who knows a little research, Yeah, look
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: them up, look up the Not Fucking Around Coalition, watch
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: some of the leader's videos, and just judge for yourself.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: To me, he strikes me as someone who would pull
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: someone over for a traffic violation.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: It's just like this day and age, you have to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: be your own filter because there's not one source of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: information that's just gonna, you know, give you.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: All the answers except us.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Except us. Yeah, but we FactCheck.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: We do. Yeah, And this will be like I was
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: planning to keep tabs on the Breonna Taylor story anyway,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: but holy shit, now I'm definitely gonna keep tabs on
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it because that's a huge scandal. Like, if it does
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: come to pass that those warrants were about a fucking
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: revitalization project and not about drugs, that's a fucking scandal.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: That's a deep scandal.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and people deserve to lose their jobs at the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: very least. So we'll see how it develops.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to see where this rabbit hole goes.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure the city would not be thrilled, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the powers that be would not be thrilled about this
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: getting out. I can see how they really try to suppress.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: This shit, and they have come out and said this
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: is all ridiculous and there's no truth to it. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: also the entire city Council of Louisville has sent a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: letter to the Louisville PD and demanded any documents relating
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to Vision Russell and Breonna Taylor.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Has the department made any statement about sort of dragging
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: their feet because there's been such a call for the arrest, Like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: have they made any statement as to like why they're
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: not moving on this.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Not really like it's it seems like, I don't know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like it seems like a police cover up. It seems
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: like this and this might be the part that they're
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: now trying to cover up, is that this wasn't just
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: about drugs. It was about fucking gentrification.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the drugs was just was the cover.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: And at that point you can't do not know, knock
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: warrants because because you want to gentrify something like they're
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: not issuing warrants for that on paper.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: No, And I don't know, like I am glad that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the country is finally coming to terms with the idea
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: that sometimes the police do conspire to get away with
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: shit like yeah, I remember.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: People I think were in denial or just sort of
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: turning the other way and just sort of accepting it
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: is what it is. Of course, police officers play fast
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and loose and use the you know, law, the technicalities
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: to their advantage to resolve their cases.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a good example of people being reluctant
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to accept the idea that police are bad is Steven Avery,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: who is the subject of the Making a Murderer documentary series.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Like that guy had already been framed by the police
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: once and now he was about to win a lawsuit
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: that would have bankrupt that police department. So right there,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: you have motive and past evidence that they've engaged in
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: activities like this before, so now they have all the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: motive in the world to frame him for something. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: back when that documentary came out, there were so many
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: people who were like, well, I can't I just can't
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: imagine that the police would do that, And it's like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: why not. Why not, like what you think in the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: face of them being put out of business, they wouldn't
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: just frame some redneck yokle from Wisconsin and send him
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: back to prison.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, think sometimes blind trust is easier for some
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: people just to sort of get on with their lives
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and go about business as usual in their society. But yeah,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, like it's off the idea that the people
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: who are supposed to like quote unquote serve and protect
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: us are actually, you know, doing criminal shit. That's really
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: disconcerting and I can see how people would not want
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to accept that that's their reality.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the kind of thing you don't want to leave.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: But at some point you have to just take the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: evidence for what it is.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. We need to like fucking
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: toughen up and be able to deal with the reality
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: of the situation. I mean, granted, like all of so
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: many of our leaders are have very low eques. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: it's just like you know, the blind leading the blind
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and or you know, even Yeah, it's it's it's a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: weird timeline we're in.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It really is. Uh. We are living through history, that's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: for sure. Like we are living in a documentary right now.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just look, I'm just here on the roller coaster.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm on it. Let's see where it goes, you know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: We that's one way to put it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Picture of everyone at the end is just everyone sobbing.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that's our episode. This was good. Do
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: we have anything to plug before we get out of here.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: We're launching a zoom an unpop Zoom show. I think
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: that'll start next month, so there's that. I'll probably do
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: one or two. I haven't done a zoom show yet,
• 44:10
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• 44:12
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• 44:16
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• 44:20
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• 44:26
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• 44:28
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• 44:32
  Speaker 2: What do you got the plug?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I have a few things. So since we are in quarantine,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I've been able to put a lot of energy into
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: online content. So follow me on YouTube, Instagram, and or
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: TikTok any or all of them. I have a lot
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of content in the works and a lot of stuff
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: up there. And also I have a weekly podcast as well,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: called the Facial Recognition Comedy Podcast. It's a weekly podcast,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: new episodes every Tuesday.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Very nice. All right, let's get the fuck out of here,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: fizz us say goodbye.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Good bye all thanks for having me.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Goodbye everybody. We love you.