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Reviewing Week 13 with Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco | Jaguars Happy Hour | Monday, December 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December five. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans
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  Speaker 1: and now a guy who gets most of his culture
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  Speaker 1: from Yogurt Jay Peace Chadra, welcome in. It is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday. It is a busy two
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  Speaker 1: hours ahead as we recap an awful loss in Detroit
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  Speaker 1: yesterday to fourteen. The final score will hear from Tony
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  Speaker 1: Boselli and Pete Frisco coming up shortly. The Jaguars defense
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  Speaker 1: did not get off the field at all in the game.
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  Speaker 1: No punts from the Lions, eight scoring drives and a
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  Speaker 1: kneel down for Detroit. The Jaguars offense had their own issues.
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  Speaker 1: We've got fanatics, fan questions as you would imagine they
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  Speaker 1: were putting on social media. Today we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League as well. We start today with head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson immediately after the game on Jaguars radio
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  Speaker 1: coverage with Bucky Brooks just outside the Jaguars locker room
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  Speaker 1: recapping the loss. It's just as we know, it's not
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  Speaker 1: good enough. It's it's embarrassing, quite frankly, communication on offense,
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  Speaker 1: turnovers on offense, drop passes on offense. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: can't get off the field defensively. I think eight eight possessions,
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  Speaker 1: eight scorers by them. You know what else? What else
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  Speaker 1: do you say? Right? That's that's the that's the ball game.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we have to somewhere somehow with with
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  Speaker 1: a young football team. We've got to figure this thing out.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to figure out that there's a level of
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  Speaker 1: intensity every single week going into each week, right, and
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  Speaker 1: every weeks a new week. Every week is another set
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  Speaker 1: of challenges. We've talked about this only all year, and
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we have to understand. And and um,
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  Speaker 1: the Lions are They're good football team, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: They're good football team. And they played well today. But
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  Speaker 1: they were fighting for the same things we were fighting
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  Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. And and appeared
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  Speaker 1: that they wanted it, uh, you know, just a touch
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  Speaker 1: touch more than we did. And and um, that's unacceptable
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  Speaker 1: by by all the guys in the locker room. They
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  Speaker 1: know that. I know that you gotta get fixed. As
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson yesterday, of course. The archive of Jaguars post
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  Speaker 1: game available on the Official Jaguars Podcast network. We're live
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  Speaker 1: today on Tinto x l A M Jaguars social Media, Twitter, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: and YouTube, and we welcome in Tony Boselli and Pete
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  Speaker 1: Frisco and gentlemen, good afternoon. How are we feeling today, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with you. I'm feeling great, a lot better
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  Speaker 1: than that team's feeling. I can tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 1: That was an ambush. They were terrible and and all
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  Speaker 1: the way across the board. I mean, it was just bad,
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  Speaker 1: and particularly that defense. And you have a lot of money,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna get through and through it all night.
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  Speaker 1: But they have a ton of money invest in that defense.
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  Speaker 1: They have a ton of draft capital invest in that defense.
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  Speaker 1: And they stink. Okay, that's the only way to describe
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  Speaker 1: that defense. It stinks. You know, if you could tech
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  Speaker 1: aim one player who played well on Sunday, who would
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  Speaker 1: it be on the defensive side of the ball. Louis
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  Speaker 1: Khan did some good things. But that's about it, right Tony,
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think the
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  Speaker 1: bigger issue, Pete is this defense can't get off the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're no good on third down and and they
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  Speaker 1: and they and they have bus they have guys and
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  Speaker 1: running wide open at times, and guys looking confused in
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  Speaker 1: the back half. And and you couple that with the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we don't rush the passer. We have nobody
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  Speaker 1: who can win up front on any type of consistent
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  Speaker 1: basis at all. Um, when you need to, and that's
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  Speaker 1: how you get people off on their done. You pressure
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  Speaker 1: with quarterback he force. Now, they did some things that
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  Speaker 1: lead the field goals where they blitzed and and some
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  Speaker 1: good designs. But when I watch our defense, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of confusion, like guys are unclear. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And you add to that, I mean this team can't
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  Speaker 1: play man Pete. I mean they are trying their best,
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  Speaker 1: rolling out every corner known demand kind. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: these are young guys. I'm not saying they can't learn
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  Speaker 1: how to do it, but right now they're not ready
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  Speaker 1: to go out there and play man. Um. So it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, and they got lost, like you said, they
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  Speaker 1: get when they get the young guys in there. They
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  Speaker 1: on the swift swing pass out of the backfield. I
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  Speaker 1: watched it. I'm still I'm still trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: if that's Muma, if it's a Louis Komma somebody. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the corner. The way they played, they looked
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  Speaker 1: like they're playing the zone over there. He kind of carried,
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  Speaker 1: he went with the receiver. He's probably supposed to stay
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  Speaker 1: out there. No, I don't think they were in man. No,
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  Speaker 1: but if you look at the lukhn he is doing
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  Speaker 1: spinning cops trying to figure out where. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: was confusion, it was clear and I don't know whose
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  Speaker 1: fault it was ultimately who's supposed to be there. But
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  Speaker 1: I know this that the back you know, swinging out
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  Speaker 1: as a checkdown, it's not supposed to have thirty yards
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  Speaker 1: of grass in front of them. And so yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of issues. I think, Pete, you said it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the side of the ball. They've
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  Speaker 1: invested ton of money, a ton of money. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you think back over the two years, the last two
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  Speaker 1: years where they've invested money, invested a bunch of money
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  Speaker 1: and safety with Rashon Jenkins. So I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: good player, and I really do, and I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: he plays hard. There's an intensity about him. They invested
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of money and Shack Griffin, who even before
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  Speaker 1: he got Hurt was not playing great football now on
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  Speaker 1: the field. They invested a ton of money in a
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  Speaker 1: little con They invested a ton of money and the
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  Speaker 1: two inside guys where Robinson Harrison brought Acostody and they're
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  Speaker 1: not getting a bunch of production from there. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: they invested a bunch of draft capital. If you look
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  Speaker 1: at the drafts the last three years, they spent two
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  Speaker 1: first rounders on C. J. Henderson and chased on which
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  Speaker 1: are basically nothing. You've got nothing zero out of two
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  Speaker 1: first rounders. Uh. This year they draft, they drafted in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. They drafted two guys and once been benched,
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  Speaker 1: and one is Um. I think to good football player
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  Speaker 1: in tradil On Walker, but he's not a pass rusher
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  Speaker 1: today and so he's he can't really impact the game
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  Speaker 1: the way you need him to based on the position
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  Speaker 1: he's playing. Um. And then you got Chad move by
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  Speaker 1: the third rounder who's now starting because your first rounder camp.
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  Speaker 1: And so you look at the investment made on that
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. I forgot that nickel, You forgot
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  Speaker 1: that nickel corner? Oh sorry, And then you spend a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of money I think ten plus million. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: At least that number. Um, I'm sure it's out there
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  Speaker 1: somewhere on Darius Williams. And so if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the amount of money you've spent free agency in draft
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  Speaker 1: capital over the last two years of free agency, three
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  Speaker 1: years of the draft, and you have zero return on investment,
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  Speaker 1: and that is it's not just troubling. Yesterday. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: yesterday was embarrassing. Doug said it best, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna kill I mean, it's disappointing because there's so much
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  Speaker 1: in front of you. It was playing out right how
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  Speaker 1: we talked about last week. Titans are gonna get beat
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  Speaker 1: by Philly. If you can go win a game in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: you are now relevant in December in the player picture
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  Speaker 1: that's right there in front of you, and you set
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  Speaker 1: up a huge game in Tennessee, now, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: that's super disappointing. But I think the more alarming fact
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  Speaker 1: is the investment made has ramifications on the cap for
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  Speaker 1: next year. And Pete, if we were to do a
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  Speaker 1: breakdown right now, like what this team needs, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: all the investments you made, you have to go replace.
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  Speaker 1: You need corners, you need pass rushers, you need you
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  Speaker 1: need another big body that can dominate on the inside
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  Speaker 1: and get pushed. I mean, I mean, like so like
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  Speaker 1: everything you still need, you still need. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: tweeted out a picture today and I don't remember. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you saw it. It It was it was
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  Speaker 1: second and ten from the goal line, and they went
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  Speaker 1: to their nickel defense and they ran Jamal Williams down
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  Speaker 1: to the one. Do you remember the play? You had
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  Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars in cap hit on the inside with
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  Speaker 1: Roy Robinson, Harrison's podocacci from this just from this year
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  Speaker 1: getting blocked. You had the two ends doing nothing. You
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  Speaker 1: had Muma getting blocks third round pick, and you had
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  Speaker 1: ray Sean Jenkins with the nine million dollar capit who
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  Speaker 1: was playing the dime linebacker getting blocked and so he
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  Speaker 1: ends up on the one yard line. And so all
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  Speaker 1: the money and you just said it, all the money
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  Speaker 1: and draft capital they invested in that defense. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have optimism for next if those same exact guys come
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  Speaker 1: back next year? Is there optimism that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be good on defense? No, let me ask Let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this way, then, guys down the stretch here
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  Speaker 1: five games to go. A lot of the younger players
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the draft picks those guys over the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, those guys can develop over the last
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  Speaker 1: five games, right and get better and and improve or
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  Speaker 1: is is it almost at this point a little too
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  Speaker 1: late in this campaign to do that? Well? Like who
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  Speaker 1: like who beside tray Von Walker? So okay, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about that though. In today's NFL with the CBA don't practice,
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  Speaker 1: how many reps are they really getting on the past field.
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  Speaker 1: That's when you get better, by the way, like you're
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  Speaker 1: not just all of a sudden. I mean, you get
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  Speaker 1: you get experience in the game and you get used
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  Speaker 1: to the game speed and seeing things. So there's there's
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  Speaker 1: value in that. But you don't practice. And that's not,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, that's not the coach's fault. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the organization's fault. That's not players fault per se, it's
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  Speaker 1: the cb A. I mean, today's NFL, you're limited and
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  Speaker 1: on how much better you're gonna get on the practice
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  Speaker 1: field at this time of year. Just the reality, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you can do some you can you know, you can
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  Speaker 1: get mentally better and mental reps, but if you look
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  Speaker 1: at it, you know, so let's go down each guy,
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  Speaker 1: young guys said tray about Walker, what is he? He's
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  Speaker 1: a freakish athlete. He's super athletically talented. He's a powerful
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  Speaker 1: individual who does not know how to um rust the pastor.
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  Speaker 1: It is hard too you you learn things by rep
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  Speaker 1: rebit repetition, So you need he needs reps on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field, working on technique, hans counter moves, inside moves,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, so on and so forth that he
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  Speaker 1: then can carry over and of the game. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: are you so? I guess should there be a plan
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  Speaker 1: to structure practice in a way that you are getting
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  Speaker 1: him the reps? And maybe they are, Maybe they're doing
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  Speaker 1: that already. I had no idea. We're not out there. Um. So,
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  Speaker 1: Traymont Walker needs to learn how to rush the pastor.
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  Speaker 1: He has all the gifts and tools that you want,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not a pass rusher. He has how many
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  Speaker 1: sacks on the year? Two one or two one and
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  Speaker 1: a half? Isn't that? Yeah? It's yeah, one and one
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  Speaker 1: and a half. So I mean, and and he's not
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  Speaker 1: getting a bunch of pressure. He got a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of push at times, um. And he got one where
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  Speaker 1: he got a little pressure when he did a stunt
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  Speaker 1: coming around. Yeah. Stuff, like that. He's a great athlete. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's that Devin Lloyd, Um, he can learn to play,
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  Speaker 1: but it's about learning to playbook and playing fast. He
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  Speaker 1: needs to learn how to play that position. He needs
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  Speaker 1: to understand coverage. You need to understand his drops. He
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  Speaker 1: unders he's understands his assignments. But here's the question you have.
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  Speaker 1: Are you gonna you're gonna pull Moon out to go
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  Speaker 1: give him those reps, you know, learn with him on
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  Speaker 1: the fly or is that an offseason thing that he
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  Speaker 1: just needs time in the in the classroom, in time
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  Speaker 1: in you know, on the field and really walking through
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  Speaker 1: stuff and going through and understated the process. Again though,
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  Speaker 1: even if he did know the assignments and he knew
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  Speaker 1: he could play, one of them ain't playing right. So
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  Speaker 1: then that's my point. Then you go down to Chad Muma. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know he they you know last week they were
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  Speaker 1: better with them, they got lined up better. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's i mean breakdown last week's defense too. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like it was a dominating effort. Mark Jackson was awful.
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  Speaker 1: He missed wide open guys and so but they won
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  Speaker 1: the game and he didn't. They I mean, they did
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  Speaker 1: what it took to win. So I don't look better
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  Speaker 1: from week to week. I didn't. I didn't think you
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  Speaker 1: looked that much better. So so there's there's and and
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  Speaker 1: then and then you've got a bunch of young corners.
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  Speaker 1: You know, mon Tere Brown, which was a six or
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  Speaker 1: seventh prounder and uh on uh camp Campbell, Campbell Campbell,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, yep, Tamon Campbell. I mean those are undrafted,
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  Speaker 1: late round draft picks that Chris Brooks, Chris Claybrooks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many years has he been here? Now? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean so like what like you hope, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta that's time, that's development. I mean, And to
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  Speaker 1: Pete's point is, and so going into next year, let's
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  Speaker 1: just take the corner position. Just take corner, nothing else
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  Speaker 1: on this team, because I'm not giving up on Tradelon Walker,
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  Speaker 1: but any means he's a I think he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a good football player like you like you gotta and
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  Speaker 1: I think Devin Lloyd has a chance to be a
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  Speaker 1: good football players a great athlete. But if you just
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  Speaker 1: take corners going into next year, how many of these
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  Speaker 1: corners around the roster that you're confident to go in
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  Speaker 1: and you can win football because I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, I don't think in the building, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how confident they are because I mean you see
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  Speaker 1: them trying everything you possibly can, and when they've gone
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  Speaker 1: down to play works is a special teams guy rolling
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  Speaker 1: him out there for meaningful defensive snaps. It tells you
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  Speaker 1: all you need to know. They don't say anything else
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  Speaker 1: but by just what's going on. And so if you
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  Speaker 1: look at the corners, how many guys are on this
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  Speaker 1: roster that you have confidence going in the next year
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  Speaker 1: that you know, Okay, we can go win football games
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  Speaker 1: with him, and so yeah we don't. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: to have the conversation. I think everyone knows the answer there.
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  Speaker 1: So it tells you gotta go find at least one,
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  Speaker 1: maybe two corners in the draft and free agency. Well
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  Speaker 1: you just did that. Well yeah, you just did that
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  Speaker 1: and be just paid to That's my point. You just
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  Speaker 1: did it. I mean, like Darius Williams, they can't, like
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  Speaker 1: if they wanted to get rid of him next year,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't. He's got eleven million dollar guarante contract. Get
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  Speaker 1: tell twelve million dollars and dead money. If you get
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  Speaker 1: rid of them. They can't do that. I still think
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  Speaker 1: my theory on him is right. He needs to go
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  Speaker 1: back and play outside. I'm sorry, he needs to play.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they should do. Play him outside. The other
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  Speaker 1: he can't play in side. He was outside when he
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  Speaker 1: played for the Rams. He was fine when he played outside.
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  Speaker 1: And if you maybe that's the answer. But if you
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  Speaker 1: look at it, um, but they paid him to come
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  Speaker 1: be a nickel be that's the problem. You pay them
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  Speaker 1: via nickel now to all your pride and go move
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  Speaker 1: them outside. And I like, just because you brought u
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  Speaker 1: Darius Williams and I'm not putting this all on him
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  Speaker 1: by any means. You all look at the first two
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  Speaker 1: series of that game. We have two great runs and
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  Speaker 1: Travis et and unfortunately fumbles Okay, terrible. That's no good.
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  Speaker 1: Not the way you want to start the game. Bion's
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  Speaker 1: drive down short field. Um, by the way, it's third
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  Speaker 1: down or second or third down, doesn't matter. They runna slant,
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  Speaker 1: Darius Williams has the ball in his hands. Were a pick,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that game might be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different if you got to pick there? Whatever? But but
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not a catch ends up being
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  Speaker 1: a catch and getting first to go up the inside
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  Speaker 1: the one. I mean, those are players you have to
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  Speaker 1: make and he got. There are a couple of situations
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  Speaker 1: where he was man up on St. Brown and he
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  Speaker 1: got torched. Torched. I think he's not and he's not
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  Speaker 1: a big outs like one of that's the problem. But
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  Speaker 1: he needs I would move him outside and go play somebody,
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  Speaker 1: try somebody else on the inside, because it ain't working.
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  Speaker 1: What it is right now, the way they have it
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  Speaker 1: right now is not working. Did not certainly not yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty of time I had for more defensive,
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  Speaker 1: be a fun show today. These are my kind of shows. JP.
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  Speaker 1: We call up players, we we evaluate them, and we
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  Speaker 1: don't care if they're young players or not. We just
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  Speaker 1: call them out like they are. This is the Pete
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  Speaker 1: Briscoe Show today. Courting to fourteen, the final score Lions
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  Speaker 1: Digital Network. I mean, it's just embarrassing, honestly, um, what
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  Speaker 1: we put out there, and such a big game for us,
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  Speaker 1: and just I mean that's the word describes embarrassing everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That Lockerman feels that way too, just to you know
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  Speaker 1: how I mean, this is a playoff game for us
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  Speaker 1: and we go out there and lay down and UM,
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  Speaker 1: I mean credit to them, those guys, those guys whooped
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: us so UM, not taking anything away from them, but
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: just just the way we came out and both sides
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: of the ball, you know, all three phases just didn't
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: play anywhere close to our best football, weren't detailed, didn't execute, UM,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And it's just embarrassing when you especially coming off a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: big win and you come out here and um lay
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: an egg. It's just can't happen. You know, we've lost
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: we've lost eight games this year and um, ever and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I felt like we got embarrassed like we did today
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and that can't happen. There's quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the
• 17:06
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• 17:25
  Speaker 1: social media, which is a buzz today by the way, Twitter, Facebook,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and YouTube. They speaking of the quarterback and injury update.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Remember that play right before halftime, rolled up left leg
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: look bad for a minute. He came back in the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: second half let a touchdown dry. But Doug Peterson earlier
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: today on the status of the quarterback surely not the knee,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: it's actually the foot in the toe area, um, and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: he was checked out today. He's he's good. They're on
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: no issues. Obviously sore from from the hit, but we're
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: still getting some more UM testing done on his uh
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: foot and toe. Are any worry about his availability for
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: this upcoming week. I'm not sure yet. Um, I don't
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: think so. I think, I think, you know, I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: things trending in the in the right direction, but I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: won't have a definite until I get the report later today,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, on his foot and everything. Well, from a
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: disaster of a football game yesterday, that's the best news
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that could come out of that game. I believe guys
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that you know that it could have been. It could
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have been a whole lot worse for the quarterback. So well,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: not only that, JP I with the toughness, is the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: kid to come back. I mean, I think he's a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: tough guy. Anyway. He stands in there and he'll stare
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: down the gun barrel, make the throws. But I mean
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: he that That just tells you initially you yeah, to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: admit you guys are sitting in the booth. I'm sure Tony,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: you sat there and you thought that was goodbye for
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: for a while. He's gonna be in big trouble. Yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I thought. I thought watching it, I thought it was
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a knee and I thought the season was over and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: it could possibly impact next year's season as well. Why
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't that a personal foul? By the way, wasn't it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: rough in the passer? Because watch where he starts. He
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: started around the waist when he hits him, he hits
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: him at the right around the waist, and then he
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: spins him and he goes down. Yeah, you're right. So
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: if a little lower, it would have been a personal foul.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Bad play by Cam Robinson. By the way. The kid
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that's a rookie, that's a rookie, sixth round pick. By
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the way, he was getting that rush right there. Um. Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I thought I give him credit for coming back. Uh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And that shows you how he cares and he's he's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a tough guy. But that was scary for that franchise
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: right there. Um. Yeah, that's that's the last thing you
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: can allow. You can't let that happen. And it's not
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a good job. I can poor technique dropping back foot. Um,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and that kid gave Cam a couple issues, maybe two
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: or three. I saw twelve. The guy only played twelve
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: snaps and he three pressures. Yeah, two pressures, and he
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: had two sacks last week against against Buffalo, So he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: is an interesting kidding Todd Washingman want to pay him
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit more? Yeah, I mean that. Look, the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: bottom line is the quarterback came back. It sounds like
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with the knee. It's a foot
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and and he sounds like they're gonna be ready to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: go this week. So it just tells you how tough
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: he is. He's a good player. Um, but the offense
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't good yesterday either. I mean it wasn't like that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: thing was cooking either. Well, they fumble on the opening drive,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: second play of the game, fumble it away. There's drops
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: all day long. I think PFF counted five for him. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that one throw into the middle of the field would
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have been it might have been a touchdown. And that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: dropped there. It was big because what that would have
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: made it seven? Seven right right there? And well, think
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: about this, Pete, if you if you take if Darious
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: one makes a play and picks it, and then um
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the Jones makes a play just catching it. So two catches.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: If you just catch these two balls, it's a different game.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Lions beat the hell out of him,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying they would have won the game,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: but it feels different, like who knows what happens. But
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you know what's amazing, too, Tony when you look at it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: We we talked about the lines haven't been good on
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: defense all year. They're terrible, that they'll be worse than
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the NFL thirty second and then the last and you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: think and you think get three yards. In the last
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: three weeks they've been better. But you're right, they've had it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Early in the season, they were historically bad. They were
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on pace to be the worst defensive all time. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the one thing, but the one thing you can look
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: at at that defense though, that you can't when you
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville's They have a young players that you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: look at and you go like a Kuda, Okay, Kuda
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: had his rough moments, but he's gonna be a good,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: solid corner. They have the linebacker they drafted. He went
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in and out of line line up yesterday because I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: think he's dinged up. The Rodriguez kid, you have, Hutchinson
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: McNeil is a good player. Lee m The defensive apples
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: are good players. Third year I think, I mean that kid,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the other pass rushers, a rookie. They have guys that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: are young that you can look at him and say, hey,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you know what, JP, those are the ones that are
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: gonna get better when they play. They're getting better. But
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you would argue, I mean, come on, you would, let's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: be also a little bit fairer here to the Jags
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and our team. I mean, Traymon Walker is gonna get better.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think you'll give it. I don't think he's gonna
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: get better and become the Tony. Usually pass rushers flair
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: flash as when the minute they get in the league doesn't.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: They might not play all the snaps like he does,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but they flash. When when has he flashed a pass
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: rush aside from a power aside from a power move
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: here and there or whatever. When when you gotta go long,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: look long and hard to find one though, that's the problem,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and you watch hudges and hudgeson to get that what
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: he got to the quarterback that one time he got
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that sack, but that was a bad assignment. I think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if that, I'm not gonna stay right on that. He's unblocked. Yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: so if you look at him though, he's twisting and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: using his hands and he'll bowl sometimes and coming whereas
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between him and Trayvon Walker. Point, I'm not.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Just you're the one who says you don't
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a pastor do you think he
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: needs to go down? You're missing my point. I'm not.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think I I've seen nothing that makes me
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a dominant pass usher in this league.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna be a really good player, though,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and your your theory is to put twenty on him
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and bulk him up and make him down player. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I'm not giving up. I refuse
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to ever give up any rookie rookies after one year.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's just too early. I mean, I'm not
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: giving up on him. Recurring back, I'm referring back here
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: comment around. You know, the Lions have all these great
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: guys that can get better. I think the Jags have
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: good guys. If you get better too, but I'm always
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be better. Movement's gonna be better. But they also
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: have a lot of veterans that are being paid a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: lot of money who should be better. Well, the the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I actually the free agency. I mean, if you look
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: at the last three years, because that's how you build
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: your team, Like, look at really over a four year period,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: because that's when those draft picks start matureing and let's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just look at it three years. Let's look at you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: at that period of time, you've got nothing out of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: your draft. Defensively, you spent a bunch of draft capital
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: on in that side, of the ball, and you spent
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a bunch of free agency capital on that side of ball.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And the problem I have is is these young guys
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that we drafted this year, it's too early. But if
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you look at twenties draft and you drafted two guys
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: in the first round, either one is not even on
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the team, the other one has never been able to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: get on the fields and chase on And then you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: go and then you and then you couple you couple
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that with what they've invested in free agency on that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: side of the ball to your point, and you're getting
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: nothing return. And that doesn't count Mal Brown either, because
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that was last year too. Remember they signed him as
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a free agent when that two years ago? Right, that's right? Hey,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: um so get us back to the Lions defense. Then
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: how good will this defense in Detroit be in a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: couple of years. Well, it was still still to be determined.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I mean that they need to spend They need to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: spend money on that side of the ball too. They
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: haven't spent any money on that side of the ball none,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So they need to start spending money on that side
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of the ball and and do more drafting over there.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's some young pieces that you get
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: excited about on that side of the ball. Um there
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they've been a bad defense, but jacksonvill was the worst
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: defense on Sunday by far and away. You didn't get
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the guy never punted. But there is something they can
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: take from going up there and and losing. It's not
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the worst loss in Detroit when this franchise has ever had.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I was came up that was taking knee game in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. Mercy. Imagine if that happened today, Tony
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: would go viral. Yeah, not the worst loss. So they
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: got that going for him. Congratulations, let's come back plenty
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: more ahead. Oh you're some more from Doug Peterson, Jaguars
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: head coach, discussing the defense coming up. Yes, we'll get
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: back to defense, and the guys wanted to go there
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a little early. Again. It will be a topic, certainly
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: because the Jags gave up eight scoring drives and then
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a kneel down on the defense yesterday and the Lions
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: over the Jaguars for fourteen. It's time to deck the halls.
• 26:36
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We just gotta keep playing, just trying,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, put us in a good position to you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: moving forward. And Uh, it's gotta go, man, I just
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: gotta go. Man. It's it's disappointing, you know, especially for
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: him not to punt the ball one time. That's embarrassing.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I've never ever done that before my career. Hopefully it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be a last Um. I just gotta keep on going, man. Unacceptable.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker in the locker room
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in Detroit yesterday. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour coming
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: up in the second hour a little bit, we'll get
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to social media questions. That's been a busy, busy place
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: today on Jaguars Twitter. Of course, after a forty to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: fourteen loss to the Detroit Lions. Hey, let's continue our
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: defensive conversation. Doug Peterson earlier today asked about Mike Well's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: first year as the coordinator. Listen, it takes it takes time.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You know. I can remember back when you know, I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was first time coordinator and you're trying to you're trying
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things, and then you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you realize, you you you back off just a little bit.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And we've done that. We have, We've we scaled back
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit and and um, you know, we've got
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: some talented players, We've got some good players. And again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: as a staff, we're just making sure that, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: we put these guys in the right positions, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and that's on us to do that. But um, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I think Mike has done a done a good job
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of organizing and and and really keeping things, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: keeping things together. But on the same side of that is,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you know, we've got to do a better job of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: coaching and teaching and making sure everybody understands, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: their jobs. Pee Risco and Tony Baselli back with us now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That was earlier today from the head coach. The defense
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: has been under the microscope, I would say after yesterday's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: game and in all facets, so we've talked through personnel. Um,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, let's hear it from the other perspective to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the play calling, the coordinating of everything. How does it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: look from the outside looking in. So I'm a big
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: proponent on coach's job is understand the talent he has
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and put them in the best position possible. And if
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you see a bunch of guys confused, it's it's only
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it can be a couple of things, and maybe there's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: other things that could be. But one is you just
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: have players who aren't smart enough or aren't doing the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: work to study to understand what you're doing. Or on
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the flip side, as a coach, you're doing too much.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: You're asking too much, You have too much in there,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and you need to simplify and to allow your players
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to play fast and be in the right position. And
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: while you might not be able to confuse the offense,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you know what you have to put you play fast,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you make plays and you know. And so that's a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: little bit of philosophical standpoint. And when I watch it
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: looks like we have trouble getting line at the times.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: We have a bunch of bucks of coverages. Guys are
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: wide open, and so to Doug's point, you know, is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it is it the players? You know? Is it the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: players not studying it up and not preparing enough, not
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: enough reps on the field what Or is it just
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is Mike call while asking them to do too much.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: We're not in there, so I don't know, but it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: one of the two and it's up to the coaches
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to go figure that out and put their guys in
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the same place. And then the second thing I want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to kind of talk about. He saw Josh Allen there
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and then we hear Doug Peterson say, we have a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: lot of talented guys on that side of the ball.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And I love Josh Allen. Let me just let me
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: put my bias out there. I really like I consider
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Josh and a friend of mine. I like him a ton.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good dude. But you you just
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: it's hard not to like scratch the head, is what's happened.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: He is not getting productive pressure, he's not getting sacks,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: he's not being disruptive over there. And I think he's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a talented guy, and I just don't understand what's going
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: on there, and they you need guys like Josh Allen
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm bringing this up because of him talking, So
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I'm focusing on him. It's not just Josh because he
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was talking and calling falling up by Doug saying we
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have talent to guys, Well, where are the talent to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: guys when it comes time to make a play And
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: we're not seeing that, And that's part of the problem here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So often good defenses have great players that even when
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: everything's not perfect, and Pete you know this, they go
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: make plays, they disrupted, they mess it up, and right
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: now we don't have our best players doing that. Let
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: me ask this, Tony is there. You know you always
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: talk about the twitchy pass rushers or either one of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: those guys twitchy. I thought Josh Allen was Pete, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't know. I don't think he is.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's twitchy. And you see, okay, you
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: saw Hutchinson yesterday. He's twitchy. You have no power. He has,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: he needs power. But I think it's funny like the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: comment like, you know, who would you pick travan Or
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: or Aid Hutchinson And I was not. I would have
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: never drafted as the first world pick and nothing. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: guess the kid I told you I would have taken.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I would have taken Tibbot I would have taken I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: would have taken No, I would have taken a deal
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: or something I would have taken if I was but
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: if I had the force to take one of the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: pass rushers, I would have taken Thibodeau. But but but
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: my point, he said, so, I don't want to he's twitchy.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he's twitch What
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he has is he has pass rush moves and to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: his counters, he spins back, he uses his hand, he
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: uses rips, he gets on the edge. But the six
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: round he used to move on the sixth round pick
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: used to move on camera. That was the best pass
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: rush anyone made on either side. He was the best
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: pass rusher in the game. He was the best pass
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: rusher in the game. And so when you look at
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it from that standpoint, all the guys that you talk
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: about that are being those those pass rushers, the guys
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you identify, right, you have go through Boses, twitchy, Von Miller, twitchy. Um.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: You know, even the inside rushers like they're twitchy. Where
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: they there's not, that's not who those guys are. But
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: if like you always say, if you bulked up and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: put twenty pounds on Trayvon Walker. He'd be a twitchy
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: guy on the inside right for that position. People. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a broken record. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and I actually my believer in Traylon Walker as a
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: football player, I really am. I just don't understand for
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the life of me, why you pick a guy number
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: one overall and asked him to do something he's never
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: done before. I don't understand or even even now if
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it's not working, why not? I mean he is like
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like I'll give you for example, if you look at
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the pass rush he made where he got that pressure.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Now he didn't finish, and he's got to finish. Down
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to Jared Goff, Jared Goff is the worst athlete on
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the football field day. You gotta tackle him. With that said,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: go watch that again. He lined up as a three
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: technique is a little bit of a you know, hump
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: move because uh, you know hits the guy hits the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: uh Jonah Jackson on the shoulder, moves him and then
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: athletically shuffles to the moves latterly to the left and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: gets vertical. It's a really nice play. It's an athletic
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: move because it's a great athlete. But yes, I think
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you put him inside. I'm with you. I'm with you,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and he would be a twitchiest held big player, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: as an outside guy he's not. And maybe and maybe
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he and I keep on saying he didn't do it
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in college, Maybe he did. I didn't watch, not a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: lot of it. Not a lot of it I watched,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And so I want to be fair. I want to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: be fair to our scouts and the guys who picked
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: him because I had maybe a lot more or not. No, Tony,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You're not wrong. He didn't do a lot of it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: He did something. I just it's just yeah, so but
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: whatever I mean. But you can get my point on
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the twitchiness of the whole thing though, Like you talked
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, I thought he would be a twitchy.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought he for some reason
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: between your run one and now, any twitchiness he had
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is gone. You didn't have it now. And he was
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a good pastorster in college. I don't I that want
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a mystery to me, and I hope he figures it
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: out because I really like it. So I'm biased. Don't
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you look at those two right now, because they're both
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: good football players, and you say to yourself, gosh, they'd
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: be really good if they were the rotation guys has
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: passed rushers, big physical, but they don't have You said
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: earlier in the season you might pick another one. Uh,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: this is my problem. Here's my big problem. I'm gonna
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: go back and we said this earlier in the show.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So if you've been listening all the time, I apologize,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: but I think it's really important point. You've invested a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: ton on the defensive side in the last three years,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a ton, and you're awful a ton. And and for
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: there's people out there by the way blaming Mike call
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Well because I heard it. Mike cole Will comes from
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Tampa's first time defensive coordinator. When you're a defensive coordinator
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: coming over, what does he want to do more than anything? Tony?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: You know he wants to play a lot of man outside.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: He can't. He's stuck with what they have. Well, here's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the thing, now, Mike call Will is a good football
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: coach and he'll learn. I really do believe that. However,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can't just beat
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: your head against the wall. You can't ask guys to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: do things they physically can't do. It's funny. It's a
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: funny story. So Mark and I were sitting in Marcadelle.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: We're sitting on the field before. We're talking about this
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: football in general. And you know, he's careful, he's a coach.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna come me too much. We're getting ready
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to play a game and I worked with the other organizations.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: We're just talking to general about the philosophy of football.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But you got guys to do and how you do it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: And I was picking his brain about his coaching staff
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and kind of the evolution they're going through. It was
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a great conversation, but we started laughing because the topic
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: came is part of coaching is putting your guys in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: situations where they can excel. And we started laughing because
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it's really no different than high school football coach and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: we and we told that he was telling the story.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: We're playing and we had this kid playing left tackle
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: for us who was a great kid and probably is
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: inventing Something's gonna be a billionaire because he's the smartest kid,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you know. And he went to USC on some academic
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: scholarship and we're asking the play the left tackle and
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: he against Trinity and he's blocking some kid that's gonna
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: be an SEC football player, and the kid was wearing
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: him out and just hitting Jojo over and over and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: on the sideline. Mark is yelling at me because I'm
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach and he's gone plays and he's just
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: screamed at me like what the And I finally grabbed
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: looked at him and grabbed him. Not grab him, but
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I got really close when I said, hey, stop yelling
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the kids. He can't do it. We're asking him to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: do something he physically can't do. It's not his fault.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: This is a great kid who's gonna be a great
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: person in society, who's gonna invent something. And he's a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: great kid. We can't ask him to do this and
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: block this kid who can't. And I tell that story
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: because it's it's the same at every level of coaching.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You can't ask your guys to do something that they
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: physically can't do. If a guy can't run and can't play, man,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: don't ask him to do it. Put us safe through
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the top, play zone, whatever it is. And I think
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the learning curve here and Mike call was a hell
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of a coach and he was he was under one
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the NFL in Tampa and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and Tom Bowles, who is now the head coach, was
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: one of the best defense court minds in all football.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And so he's gonna figure it out and it's a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: learning curve. And I think Mike call was probably frustrate
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: his head because he is envisioned in his head how
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: he wants play defense. But if you all the guys
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: do it, you can't do it. Now you have to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: just and now you have to put your guys in
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: situations where they can't have success. And you figured out
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: maybe this team just needs to be a bend, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: don't break and just keep it, you know, you know
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: when you get into the twenty and force field goals
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and try to you know, limit scoring opportunities and so
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: on and so forth. But that's the frustrating part right now, Pete,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: where this team is and you don't you don't have
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: impactful guys on that side of the ball, and your
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: best players that you were counting on to be impactful
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: aren't doing it right now. But I remember in training, Kevin,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I know, JP, you're waving the paper, so I know
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you gotta go. But I remember in training kept me
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and you had a conversation. We were talking about how
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: they wanted Mike call was ideal scenarios to play a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: lot of press man coverage and they don't have the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: guys to do it, period, and that played out true.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Plenty more ahead on this game yesterday. We'll come back
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: through in a moment and it into the a f
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• 41:29
  Speaker 1: go favorite one Kenny Chesney song you might have heard.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I have no I have no earthly idea I could
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: aim you one, Tony. I'm not. I'm not a huge
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney. I don't. First of all, I'm the worst
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and self permitted worst. I love country like I love
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Kan Brown, I love um you know Jason Dean. I mean,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I love country music. I'm the worst at naming songs
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: like I have a playlist and Spotify with like all
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: country if you told me right now, name my favorite
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Spotify list song. I couldn't tell you. I don't know
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the names. I couldn't I think you know. Do you
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: know a song Brian? Yeah, she thinks my tractor is sexy.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: It's probably my favorite one from the old school. I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: do like that song. That's a great song. Or the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: name of the tour I go back, that's like the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: name of the tour I thought a game like. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: enjoy Kenny Chesney, There's no doubt about it, because I
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: love country. But he's not my top country act. But
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like sitting on a beach with an adult beverage, is
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that you know, sunny out, it's going down and hanging
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and listen to little Kenny Chesney. That's a good day
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: for me. And you know what sounds like to me, Pete,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: is that there'll be seats on the couch at Daily's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: place if we want them, because Tony will not be like, well, no,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I like Kenny chestniy im gonna try to go to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that show. Don't get me wrong, I'm just done. I've
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: never been a big country music fans. I love country music. Hey,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: go back to the picture you did of the performance center,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: JP which is I'm so excited for that. Um, um excited. Yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm so excited and so thankful for you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Shot and his investment, the city's investment doing this. But
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: when you started talking about the weather in the sunset,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I love about going on the road
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. It makes me appreciate where I live
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: so much more and rejoin. It's a great city, great
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: great football city and you know, good people. But thank goodness,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I don't live there. I lived in Jacksonville. It is
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: too cold. Oh my god, it's it's crazy. It's like
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville is the first coast area, so Jacksonville point of media,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Jackson Beach, Atlantic Beach, all those areas is one of
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the greatest places on planet or to live. I it was.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I had a it was either a friend of mine
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: or a family member. We're having this conversation a couple
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and they asked me the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: question where would you live if you could live, anywhere
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: would you live? And I sat there for about ten
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: seconds and I pondered, and I said, I live in Jacksonville.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I live anywhere in the world. I live right where
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I am I love. I don't get me wrong, I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: love living there. I'd probably prefer to live down here now. Now.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I love Florida in general. I love South Florida. We
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: visit down there. My wife and I love going down
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to Port Lauderdale and South Beach. It's a beautiful area, gorgeous,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: great people, great culture. Love it. But if I had
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: to choose anywhere on planet Earth to live, it would
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: be right where I am at. I mean the weather
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: my preference, and weather is better down here. We get
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: those in November, I mean in January and February and Jacksonville,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you getting a couple of those, you know, those dark,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: dreary days. I remember when you walk outside it's like
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: thirty five and dark and windy, and I hate those days.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I don't mind every once in a while having to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: wear put a pair of jeans on and pull over
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and and uh not very often. I don't want to.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do very often. I'm with you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm more of a give me heat, give me, give
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: me beach. Um. That's more me too, but also times
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: better than Detroit. We McFadden went to Minnesota to do
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the game yesterday. He had to do something outside. He's like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: we gotta go back and do I go. I ain't
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: going to I'm not gonna go to Minnesota the summer
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for camp and unless there's a Super Bowl, I'm not
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: going back there. They're never getting another SUPERO. You know
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: as well as I do. That was one of your
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: That was one of your worst moments at that Super Bowl.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I remember when you didn't get into that time when
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you get in there was five of those people. Yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: but that one was the one we really thought it
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: was gonna happen to remember. No, Miami, No, that was Miami.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Miami was the second, Minnesota then Miami. You're right, thanks
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: for bringing it up. Houston, wasn't you know why? Now
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: we gotta start getting Fred and that's why he's one
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of the finalists. That's why. That's that's I'm with you.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: We need to get him into the room. And I
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: trust that you're doing the same thing you did for me,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: making the calls and make sure you're getting that room.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a couple I'm gonna make a couple
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of phone calls with guys I know as well, because
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor's just go watch him. Where the greatest running
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: backs ever step on a football field in history. Last
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: night I watched John of the Tailor, and John of
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the tail is a good back, don't get me wrong. Alright, guys,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that'll do it. First hour in the books on Jaguar's
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour, your social questions plenty more ahead in our
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: number two is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Game like yesterday is unacceptable for anybody, you know, and
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and the players are included. They understand that. And so
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: for me, it's not about yelling and screaming and trying
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to get their attention that way, but but still having serious,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: hard conversation, you know, And and look, you know, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: want him to understand what's in front of us. I mean,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: still five games and three division and you know, I mean,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, and we're not out of anything, right,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's still it's still right in front
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: of us. But um, it's my job to make sure
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that they understand that, you know, And you know, as coaches,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: we gotta I think I think the more you yell
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: and scream and try to put a lot of pressure
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and heat and this and that they get tight and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: tense and and don't play well. I still want to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: be loose and play and have fun and all that,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: but at the same time they understand there's a it's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a discipline game, and then we've got to be more
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: disciplined than we were yesterday. That's the head coach Doug
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Peterson earlier today and welcome back. It's our number two
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday, after a forty two
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: fourteen lost for the Jaguars in Detroit against the Lions,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: a battle of four and seven teams goes the way
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of Detroit. The Lions scored on their first eight possessions
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and then knelt down in their ninth to in the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: football game, the Lions had only three plays over twenty
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: yards for the entire game, so longer sustained drives and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: they controlled the football throughout almost thirty eight minutes worth
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of possession time. DJ Shark and I'm on Ross st.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Brown had big days on the Jaguars secondary, to say
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the least. On offense, running back Travis E. T N
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: lost a fumble in the second snalf of the game.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Jack's really never recovered from their drop swored issue all day.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence seems to have survived to scare. On the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: final play of the first half, left leg was rolled up.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: He came back out for the second half and let
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a long scoring drive to get the Jags back within
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: two possessions. Missed opportunity for the Jags, of course, to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: get within two games of the division lead. With five
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to play, including two head to head with the Titans,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: they're still three back. The record now four and eight,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and it's on to Nashville, where the Jaguars haven't won
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: since the Obama administration. Five straight against Tennessee now have
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: gone the way of the Titans, and nine of the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: last ten. And that is the state of affairs on
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: this Monday. Pete Frisco Tony Boselli back with us. That
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: about sums it up, I think, Pete. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: none of it's pretty. It was not a pretty day.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't I Doug Peterson's got to sell that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to his players. I get it, and technically they are
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: still alive. But come on, you're alive until you're not alive. Pete,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: well got to sleep going into Titan. So I mean
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he's got that. I am. Uh. Doug is handling it right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: He has to he has to keep those guys involved.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I love his approach. It's the right approach. But Pete,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you and I can sit here and say, you say
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it's over. I'm saying it's a one percent. It's a
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: one per center. But let me ask you, this is
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: this a meaningful game in December this week? It is
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: only because it's the Titaness. I don't think it's meaningful
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: for the overall playoff race. Yet they would have to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: with him to play meaningful games in December. They gotta
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: beat They gotta beat Tennessee. When I say meaningful, it's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: meaningful to the organization, but meaningful in the playoff race.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: They have to beat Tennessee in Dallas the next two weeks,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: which is after what we saw. Oh my, that's I'll
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, know, Tony, I watched the Titans
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Eagles tape today who they were bad. I mean, the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: last weeks has been terrible ball. I actually think that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the matchup against the Titans is more favorable to the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Jaguars in the matchup defensively than the matchup with the Lions,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: because Tandy Hill, because Danny, there's no receivers that scary,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and they don't have a st Brown over there, and
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Tanny Hill is not a dropback going to pick you apart. Um,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: they're power. They gotta run the ball with Derrick Henry
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and they've struggled the last two weeks to do that
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: against both the Bengals and the Eagles. So I mean
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: there's a recipe out there. And so I actually think
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a super close game. History wasn't no,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: But if it wasn't the Titans in our history up
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: in Nashville, I would actually think the Jaguars would beat
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the Titans. I mean just based on matchups and everything else.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: So it was Tony. It was brutal on Sunday. He
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: got hit nine times. Um, they got sacked six times.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball, they got no push their
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: little you know, the inside guys on that line are little.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: That Brewer kids little, The center's little, the right guard
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: is not a big guy. They got pushed back. We
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: played and the tackles are very good. If if jackson
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: was ever gonna get any because the Lions offensive line,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that's one thing about them. They're pretty good up front.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: But one thing about Tennessee. If Jacksonville doesn't get any
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: pressure or pushed in this game. Something's really wrong. And
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: so for the for them to have meaningful playoff games,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: they gotta beat the Titans and the Cowboys, and then
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: it would be the Jets, right is that Thursday night er?
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And that would be and that would be an interesting
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: game because then you know, you get the seven and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: all you need, all all you need is the Tennessee
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to lose one more for that next Tennessee game to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: really means something to tie up the division. The only
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: thing is what you saw on Sunday gives you no
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: thought that the any of that's happening, particularly with the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: way with the way the Cowboys played Sunday night late
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: in that game. Now, well I mean, I mean I'm
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: not gonna get to the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, based
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: on the way they played. But basically, the both teams
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: played this past week, and if you're looking at the Cowboys,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Cowboy's gonna win a hundred and nothing. Um and But
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: but the way that history in Nashville is is tough
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to overcome. I actually think that Jackguards will win this game. Okay,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: all right, are we gonna locked that? Already? Did it?
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I thought I already did you locked one? You locked
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: one of the two. You didn't say which one, but
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you're not so you probably think they're gonna win at home,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: so you gotta lock to then. No, don't do that
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to yourself. I'm not locking it, but I think they were.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I think they win. I don't. I don't think Tennessee's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: very I don't think Tennessee. I don't think Tennesse either.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee is that good either. But there's
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: bad history there. I mean, come on, Tony, how many
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: times did Jacksonville go there with the better team and
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: got whacked? I was telling you what I think, Pomp
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: pomp waver No, because if if that offensive line is
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: struggling as bad as they are apt and they can't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: run the ball, Derrick Henry, they can't move the ball,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they can't win with Tanny Hill with their defense wasn't
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: very good on Sunday either. I mean it was just
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: it was one of those games they got ambushed and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: they looked bad doing it, and they didn't look great
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: against the Bengals, particularly on offense. I mean, it's not
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a this is not a dominantee. If there's ever a
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: chance you can win that game, this would be it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they will. We'll see, we'll find
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: out the Sunday in Nashville's the Jaguars trying to get
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: off the deck and get back up, certainly defensively against
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the guy who's over the years hurt them on the
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: ground obviously. But you know that's the other thing, Pete.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: We talked about all these new faces the last year
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: or so. It's the new organization, right, So don't worry
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: about the history of Okay, but the history from nine
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: carried over to two thousand and nine, carried over to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen. Come on, if they just have
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: they have dominated him. They have there. It doesn't matter
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: who's in the in the uniform. The franchise has been
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: dominated by the Titan that you can't hide from that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: at How do you fix that? How do you change that?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Go beat him, don't tremble in your boots when you
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: see him on the other sideline like Tony's teams used
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: to do that evil drench. Laugh again, Tony, right there.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Part of the part of the thing back in the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: day was I don't know. I always used to think
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that you guys typed up against them and I don't
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: know why. Maybe it was Coughlin, maybe it was they
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: did they typed up. They were always like loose his
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: goose could be and and you tightened up against them,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you were the better team. There's no doubt in my mind.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I'll go to my grave that ninety nine the Jacksonville
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: jack Wards are a better team than the Tennessee Titans. Times.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: If you look at the first game at home, we
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: had the first goal, and I think all we need
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is the field goal. Tom Thru Tom Thrue. So why
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: was he throwing it? Oh my gosh, he threw it
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: a wet ball. Brunelle, Why didn't remember? It was it
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: was raining? I remember, yes, I remember. And then the
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: second one was the ambush in a night game, right
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday night. On the second one, the second
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: one was the day after Christmas. We threw up their
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day and and we could not tackle Steve McNair,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Eddie George or U the tight end who didn't radio it,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: couldn't tackle him. Yeah, that was terrible. And Brunell got
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: knocked out with a concussion and it was just like
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: it just went sideways. And then the championship game, I
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: was working for the safety. The franchise has never been
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the same since you hear do you hear him, Pete?
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: He was hurt. He wasn't in the game. No, he wasn't.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I wasn't in the game, but I was not. I
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't playing. But Leon, I mean, I mean my point
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of that night. Yeah, he's always right one of them,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the assignment. I get that, but I'm saying I can't
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: speak to it. I wasn't there. I was, I was.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I was in the I was up in the boot.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: You were a luxury box. He was actually used some
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: booth somewhere. He was eating, he was drinking champagne. Here
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: he saw what we saw. You were no different than
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I was at that game because we were there, we
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: saw it. They after that safety, that was the end
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: of the franchise was never the same again, Let's be real.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: They kicked off Derek Mason ripped the kick. Goodbye, not
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. That's what happened. It hadn't
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: been the same since. Thanks Pete. It's great, Pete, we're
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: back in a moment. I did you know why the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: tightens the mode them over the years. We're gonna keep
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: it real when we come back, because let me tell
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you we haven't done that yet. Tonight it's our number two.
• 57:46
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• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I don't get
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: involved with the game planning. That's not my expertise, um,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: but just you know, we just gotta have conversations and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: be open and we've we've all got to be honest
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: with um, you know what we're doing and making sure
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: we got the right guys in the right spots. That's
• 58:26
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• 58:30
  Speaker 1: That was after the game yesterday in Detroit, and welcome back.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour and it's time now for keeping
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• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and fifteen minutes in or so, so let's get back
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to the defense. Guys, what's the biggest defensive issue yesterday
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: in the game and how do you fix it? Moving
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: ahead down the stretch? If you had to pick one, well,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: before we get into that, we will answer that real quick.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I gotta clean one thing up from the last segment.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: So pete, so I don't want Tom yelling at you
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and I it was actually seventeen when we threw the pick.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: All they needed. All we needed was a field goal
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: to senator overtime. They took a safety and then that's right,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, so it was overtime. Kicked the field goal. Well,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: we just we run them the ball in first down
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: for five yards down to the flour So how dooult
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: we running again? How we keep on running it? Do
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: you think I think were in that year? We were
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: number two? We have the number two rushing defense offense
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. What did Brunel throw for that? Because
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: it was wet and nasty, I remember that we do.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: We had a seventeen seven lead going into the fourth quarter.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, that might have started the whole
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: real problem with Mark can cough because he called him
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: out after that game. It was not a good moment.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: He called him out publicly. He called Brunelle out publicly,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: where Brendel could have called him out publicly for call
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: making the damn call. Yeah, that was that was the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: start of it. That's right, And uh, you're right, we
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: were wrong. Sorry, Tom, But you still should have run
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, okay, alright, I've got that taken care
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: of from twenty three years ago. So how about the defense?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: The biggest issue yesterday? Yeah, those wounds don't heal. The
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: biggest defensive issue yesterday. If you have to pick one
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and fix it, how do you do it? Moving down
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: the stretch? I mean, I think you gotta stop playing one.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: You have to simple buy things, make sure guys can
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: play basket lined up, and limit your playing man as
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: much as possible. I mean, that's gonna fix it in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the in the meantime. But the biggest issue JP, if
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you want to really, the biggest issue on Sunday was
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the fact they can't rush the passer. I can't tell
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you how many times there was a Cone or Jared Golf.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: When you watch the tape, you watch the tape, Tony,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: there it was just a cone. But how about every
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: time of most and then he got and you know
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: what it is, Even if there was coverage at times
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: down the field, he had every opportunity to check the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: ball down because he could go one, two, three, four
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: and then check it down. There's no pass rush, there's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: no push, there's no pressure. He doesn't have to bail.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: And and so for me, it's pass rush. This league.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: You can have all the coverage you want. This league
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: is defined by I don't care. You know, there's always
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: been these new studies about well, coverage might be more
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: important than pass rush. No it isn't, and no, no
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: football is the coverage ever more important than the pass rush.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: And so that's that's why I think they have to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: do something about that pass rush in the off season.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: As it is now, they're not gonna do anything to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: change things now again, I would I would try Devin Lloyd, Tony.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd's bigger than that kid that rushed the passer
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: for the Lions yesterday. He's not as heavy or thick
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: that gets thick, but he's six one or something and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: he's the only way he's listened to to thirty. I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: mean he's not a big guy. That kind of goes
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: back to our point, right, Can you do that in
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: the middle of the season though? Can you move him? Now?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Let's go. All you do is say line up and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: go go. That's easy to do. There's no assignment, your pass, rusture, go.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: You can do that. Yeah. I don't disagree with I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know if it's as easy in general,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: but better than not having him on the field and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: trying not to do anything with him. He does have
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: something run. There was a play on Sunday where he
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: actually made a nice play where you've chased out a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: guy in the hole and got off a block and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: made a play in the hole as a linebacker. But
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I still think that speed is not being used because
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: his head spitted. Yep, I agree. Do you have it?
• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: has not arrived yet, right, I know, Tony's probably got
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: his all wrapped up and ready to give away his
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: presence individual bottles for like everybody on the on his
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Christmas list. Hey, I can't tell you how happy I'm
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: to be around you this holiday season. Here's a gift.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I got it for free, but it looks like I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: bought it. All the voters get one. He's done with that.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: We're moving on. Come on, Pete, I'll tell you this.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: It is not it's nice not even thinking about that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, but you gotta do now now it's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Freend's time. No, no, no, I get that. I'm all
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: about Fred. I'm glad it's not me for like six
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: years straight this time here all we that's like, all right,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I just I just don't think
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: your case was tough because of of the short career.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why Fred's cases as tough. It is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: as it is, other than the fact that he played
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and other than the fact that people it's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: it's the Pro Bowls and all pros hand and a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: certain coach used to yank him out on the goal
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: line that it did not we'll come back. Social media
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: questions and I know you guys are both following that
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit today. It was quite a scene on Twitter,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: It really was. It really was. We'll get just a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: little taste of it when we come back for social
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: media questions. We'll go around the league in a little
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Digital Network. Strain better when it happens train. But I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: think they had a simple game play over there. A
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: lot of playoffs upon deepense, a lot of play actions,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of you know, dincon ducks. Um, it was
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Ryans was pretty that had some politician stuff that we
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: just got it up. But um, we gotta make our
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: plays to get off the field when we need to. Um,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: have tighter coverages when we need to. I mean, whatever
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you draw up, if you don't execute them, if you
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: know when you're playing, not no matter. So I'd say
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: strain better for getting black. Uncle Black gets your ball,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you know, guy makes it, got your break, gets the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: ball better. Look in the Jaguars middle linebacker fifteen total
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: tackles yesterday. He does lead the league in solo tackles
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: as well, after day's eleven solo tackle performance. Welcome back,
• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Senior writer Pete Briscoe and Pro Football Hall of Fame
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: left tackle Tony Boselli. He's by the way JP, real quick.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: He's the best right now. If you'd say who which
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: player is playing the best on that defense, he's the one.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: When you agreet Tony yes, post consistent best yes, and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: really started playing much better when he didn't have to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: line up guys. No, I agree. I mean, I think
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the little cons has done a good job. They brought
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: him in here to lead the defense and be the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: tackling machine that he was in Atlanta, and that he's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: a solid, good player. He they've gotten back. They've got
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: bang for their buck on him, unlike some of their
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: other guys. Let's go to social media. It's been a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: busy day on Jaguars Twitter, as you might imagine, so salty,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: almost as salty as this program. We put out the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: cat signal earlier today. Here's the best we've come up with.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Question number one at chapter nine, O four in the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: court chats hundred thirty five million, three first rounders on
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the defense. What's going on in the locker room for
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: this defense not to stop the Lions once? I think
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a trend in this segment. Well,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, we beat this to death. I mean, they they,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: like we said, they invested a boatload of money on
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: that side of the ball and a bunch of draft capital,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and it's just for whatever reason, it's not working. When
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you can't rush the passer, I'm sorry. If you can't
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: rush the passer in the NFL, you're not winning, period.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: In the story, it's a passer and pass rusher league.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: You can talk all you want about running the ball
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and playing good defense, run defense, everything else. You can't
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: rush the passer, You're not winning, period. So we just
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: heard Luk in there, guys right and Tony like talking
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: about strain and get off blocks and make plays and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: all that. I mean, is that is it a locker
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: room internal thing? Guys just not doing enough? Um? Are
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: they not doing enough? Don't? I mean, it's when you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: say not doing enough, I don't. I guess my I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: guess where I would go with that. JP is and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I know what Lukan is saying, and it makes sense,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: but it's so it's so it's a combination. I think
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: what he's trying to say is guy's gonna make play.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Like the coaches can only call so much. I mean,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: then call defense. But at the end of the day,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: it's about execution, and you've got to go execute um
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: your assignments, and you gotta play fast and you gotta
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: you gotta win. I mean, I've said it before on
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the on the show. At the end of the day,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: football is about being the man in front of you too.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: It's not all schemes. You gotta have good schemes, you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: gotta have good coaching yet, but it comes out of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: players making play and winning. And we don't win another
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: and especially in the past rush the Tony One thing.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Though Roy Robertson, Harris and Fokasi looked like early in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the season they were gonna be dominant. Somewhere along the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: way that changed for both of them. And I know
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: didn't Photocaci get hurt, he got hurt at but there,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were plays on Sunday and if you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: watch the table, you know they were in the four
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: or five three or four or five yards off the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: book getting blown off the ball. I mean, they were
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: getting handled. And it's been that way for a while.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Remember remember Roy Robertson Harris what he did the Quentin
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Nelson in that game and week was that Week two.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: That guy hasn't been around since then. He had two
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: tackles for lost, two quarterback hits and three total tackles
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: that week. I don't know what's happened to those guys.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: And I thought they were gonna be we At one point,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: you thought the interior of that defensive line was going
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: to be this the strength of that defense I did.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, and it has not come
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to fruition. I mean you look at I mean, you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: look at the defense right now. They are past defense
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: and about and rush defense, and so you know the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: middle of the pack. They're an average rush defense tee.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: But they're big problems. They can't get off the field.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: They're bad on third down and and they can't depend
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the past. And that goes to my point of you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: gotta win and the way you stop the passes you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: win in the past. Rush, you pressure the quarterback, you
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: get him out of rhythm, you get him uncomfortable, and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: we don't do that. Look at that pass yards nine
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: third down, twenty nine red zone. I mean, my gosh,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: points for game seven. It's it's a bad defense. Let's
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: move along. Next question on social media today yep at
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Carson J and a bunch of numbers. How many players
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: do we have that are top ten at their position
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: in the league. There are certain positions that are a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: critical need, but don't we have an overall lack of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: top talent. So here's a good question at the top.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: How many players on this team are top ten at
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: their position in the league. I have one one done?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Who Tony Christian Kirk. He's a top ten receiver in
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the league. I think he's close. I don't get me wrong,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's he's lived. Talking about
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: somebody who's lived up to the to the money. He's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: lived up to it. So he's your right, he's close.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: E t n would be close if you made it,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: if you looked at it at the running back position,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: he'd be close. Yeah, Larne Lawrence's only for Sunday would
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: be pushing fifteen to twelve. But top ten, they're the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: only ones you can make. Okay, you know the right
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: guard that they paid a boatload of money for and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: lived up to the expectations. Either. I'm sorry he's been Okay,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: he hadn't been dominant. There was a play on Sunday.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Alee McNeil took him and smashed him. Do you remember
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: that play Tony with his right arm and threw him
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to the ground and made a play. I'm like, wait
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: a second, that's the guy that that's the guy they
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: played all that money for. That's that's one play. I don't,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, it's been okay, he's been okay. I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: would say that I would say there's two if I was,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I mean travising, TN is tenonally in rushing when it
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: comes to running running backs, and then Kirk. I think
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: there's only two. Okay, let's spit it forward to next year.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: How many of those same guys are gonna be top
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Can you say we'll be top ten next year? The
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: quarterback will be I'm sorry, I'm I'm on that train.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: He'll be top ten next year. Et N will be
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: as well. Kirk probably would be in the conversation, how
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: about anybody else? Anybody else? Do you see anybody else
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: any of the offensive lineman? Center? I guess potential to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: be that, um, well, you'd like him to be, then
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. That you've come off that, you've
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: come off that you had him top five tackle before
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: you've come off that one. He's still he's still top half. Um,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: he used to be five, and then it was ten,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and now it's top sixteen. The hard part is you
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: look at you probably take both those tackles on Detroit
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: before any of our guys. Yeah, Decker is better than him,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: isn't he? Yeah? Thank you? I mean so yeah, you
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: know you know I'm biased my dag war tackles. Um, Yeah,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: there's me next year. Um e tn, I think we'll be.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence will be. I think kirk Um
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: has a chance. Maybe Ridley really comes back to the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: player he was before he got out for two years. Um,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Lucans probably, I think Lucan right now you would say
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the top ten middle linebacker, side linebacker. Yeah, he's in
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: that group. Here by the way, just when we're talking
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: about the left tackle from former Jaguar Leon Searcy, exactly
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: the reason why you don't pay an average talent elite
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: money to protect the face of a franchise quarterback. Season
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: is over. Yea coming in hot. Let's move along social
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: media continuing. Next question, here we go at Leland Merritt.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: How do we fix our pass rush? I'm not sure
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: how much more we can invest in it. Nothing seems
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: to be working. We've talked this one to death today,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: but it is the question on a lot of people's mind.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Here's something I want to ask, who is the last
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: twitchy pass rusher the Jacksonville Jaguars have had Wow in Goway? Right,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: You're right, he was, but he couldn't couldn't play the run. Well,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Campbell was a pass rusher. But but but I'm from
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: the edge, I'm talking from the outside. I'm talking about well,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the history of the France Brackins. I mean,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: and think about the pass rush bus that they've had,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: that's been a position of major bust for the organization.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: You talk about Harvey uh Chase on Um, would you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: consider a fouler of bus? Yes, for them he was
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: he still playing, yeah, But for them he was a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: bus where he was taking he should be. He should
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: have been a dominant pass rusher for them. I mean,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: let's not forget he was taking overall. How many top
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: ten pass rushers have they taken in their history? A lot? Yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: top ten, yeah, I think or nine? What was Jason
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't top ten though, Yeah, but still, I mean that's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital in the position that still
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: isn't fixed. Correct your correct, Pete, you are correct. Let's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: move along another social media question. Okay, at Dr Cliffy,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: no question, really can just can someone say something to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: make me not feel like this anymore? Pete and Tony
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: can't say sixteen even though that's the answer. Well, that's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: that answer, that's the answer. It's the only answer. I mean.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: And let's defend the head coach, because I do think
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: he's a good head coach, and I think he's gonna
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: be a really good head coach in Jacksonville. I mean,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: did I love the two point play? Of course I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: didn't go within two scores? You hadn't do it football,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, more lateral and we would have had
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: a goofy play. And he come on that Jacksonville special,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: that's his version of the Phillies Special. But play football,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Come on, okay, if you really love that play, you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: really love that play, you're saving you save it for
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: two point play when you're down sixteen. Now it's tape, okay,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: but what you pull that play out? Once you see
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: you you see where I'm coming from with that play?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? I think it's fine, Pete.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I think you're overdropping. I think. Okay, that play is
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: so great and you're gonna use it as a special play.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Do you use when you're down sixteen? Well, yeah, because
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: if you if you score there and you get a stop, now, yeah,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: the game wasn't over, Pete. If they get a stop
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: or two, you can't even say it with a straight face.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Look at him, he's balting your bout. You're can you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: know what's funny? I can tell you agree with me,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: and JP's gotta jump in to save it. Let's I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: think you're being a little bit overly critical. Yeah I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: agree with that. Okay, I'm a big Okay, I say
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: it for every coach just play football. I get it.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Once in a while you come up with your gimmick play.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna save that gimmick play, you don't
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: use it when you're down sixteen. Well, if you don't
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: use it, then you might not get to it, Pete.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: They might use this. Just get in the game. You
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: need it right there. They can use it again later.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: He says, we can come it again later, talking about
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: who says they can't use it again. Okay, well listen,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: first of all, I'm gonna make a motion. Stop the conversation,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: why are we feeding the beach? But he is he is, uh,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: he is, Yeah, I don't agree. The majority of fans
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: would agree with me too, right now. They would agree
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: with anything against the Jaguars after that performance yesterday. Look,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: I don't love to play, period, but if you're gonna
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: have a play like that, use it in this situation
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: where it's gonna matter. It was never gonna matter in
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: that situation. They got them within two scores. Let's move
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: along to social media question. The next one at Richmond Murader,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I love the show is wondering what Tony and Pizzas
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: opinions were on Cam Robinson, more specifically on the hit
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: on Lawrence. I mean Cam Robinson saw the solid left tackle.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I think I've always said I think he has the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: potential to be a top five left tackle because of
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: his skill set and his talent and athletic ability and
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: everything else. But he has some bad habits and and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: we've talked about him before and one of his bad
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: habits is he drops that back foot at times. And
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: he did it there. Then you get a soft edge
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and he missed. He missed on the punch, and you
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: know a combination of some bad footwork and missing on
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: the punch leads to the quarterback getting hit. I don't
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: blame Cam Robinson for you know, possible ugly injury that,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: thank goodness, did not happen. It's football. Cam Robinson was
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: not trying to get Trevor Lawrence hurt. Um, the other
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: guy wasn't trying to hurt Trevor Lawrence. It happens. Um,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Guys get rolled up on, Guys get hit low, guys
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: get hit high, and guys get hurt in this game. Um,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I'm more considered. I'd be more concerned about Cam Robinson
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: breaking some bad habits because he's a day and good
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: football player, or he has the ability to be really
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: really good football players. And he's a solid football player
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: at left tackle. And I hope that he continues to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: work to work on his technique and continue to get
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: better because are going to be our left tackle for
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: a while here and he's an important piece of the puzzle.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: And he and he hasn't played poor, you know, let's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: not say that he's been he's been solid this season.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: He's been a solid tackle. Um. But again, it's a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: lot of money for a solid tackle, so you gotta
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: look at it from that standpoint. But if you don't
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: have him, what do you have there? Walker Little? Let
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: me come on, Well, you drafted him, and you drafted
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: him in the left tackle with the hope that he
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: could be one of the two starting tackles, and he
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: hasn't been able to win the job at either one.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: And he hasn't. And again we go back and he hasn't,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you're starting left guard gets You
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: would think if you had a stud tackle couldn't be
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: at the other ones. He'd be able to shift down
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and play guard and be a big body in there.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: And he can't beat up Shatley chat he's a better
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: guard than him right now as well? We move along
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: a couple more questions remaining from Twitter today, and this
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: is a d T W D two. What does it
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: always feel like this team takes a big step forward
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: and then almost immediately after it takes two steps back.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: What's it going to take to consistently turn this around?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: They're a young team, young team, it's a young team.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's what happens with young teams. They know, you know,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: and they don't know how to win consistently. They know
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: how to win at times, and then they don't know
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: how to stay on and even they get too high
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: and then you got it too low and then you
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: gotta come back up again. That's what young teams do.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: It's not just Jackson yet. No, it's a young team,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: and I think it's a team that has some talent
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: deficiencies at certain positions that are critical rushing the passer
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: and covering the past. That's a combination along one question.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: If they were good old defense, they're good enough on
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: offense to move the ball and be If they were,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: like I had a top ten defense, they'd be a
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: playoff team. But well, I mean I think that they're
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the top fifteen defense, they might be put up team. Yeah,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: good point. Our final question now from social media today
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: at coach Ripley one. After playing their worst game of
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: the year and now a potential quarterback injury or not
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: atent at least, how do the Jaguars rebound against an
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: opponent who has made them look as bad as anyone
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: over the years and the Jags haven't won in Tennessee
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: since So yeah, this is to rebound against the Titans.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: That's uh, that's quite a task. Well, I think Trevor
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: will be fine. I think Trevor will play. I think
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: you will not notice anything major about his performance from
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: the foot and co injury that Doug talk about. Um
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: big question is can they stop there Denry, because that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: has been the Achilles heal on this team ever since
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Derrick Kenry's been there. He has run rough shot on
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense. And so that's the big challenge. You
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: have to tackle him and you have to minimize his
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: impact in the game and forced Ryan Tannehill to meet
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: you him. I mean, look, go show that you're you know.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: The one thing is that you know the Titans. They're bully,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: They're tough, they're physical. Go bully them for once, Go
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: take go, Pete, push them around. Could they have the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: personnel to do that, Pete. No, Even their offense isn't
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: a bully offense. It's it's you know what I mean.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: They get them out in space, they run et N
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: and space, they spread people out, they missed direction and
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, so no, they're not a bully team. M hm.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: So but to your point, four of the last six
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: games that Henry's played, he's gone over a hundred yards
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: on the ground against the Jaguars so and I think
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I think a couple of those games. JP has been
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: over two hundred correct, that correct yard games against them.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: That's correct, that is correct. And you can see you
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: can just close your eyes and envision all those guys
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: getting shaken off of him as he's running down the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: sideline like he's eight and their fourteen. You know, boom,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: boom boom. Somebody was twice. I tell you, I'll tell
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: you one thing though he hasn't run like that the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: last two weeks, is he hasn't. He can't get his
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: feet going, you know how he is. If he if
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: feet start chopping, he's he has problems. And they've been
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: in the backfield. That's what you gotta do. You gotta
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: get penetration against him. And he's not the same guy
• 1:24:17
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• 1:24:33
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• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: as well. When we returned, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars happy hour
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch on Monday. After a forty
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: to fourteen loss to the Lions in Week thirteen, Jaguars
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: had to Tennessee this week to face the Tennessee Titans.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look around the a f See South
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: games from yesterday in the division. You know, and I
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: was right there for the taking for the Jaguars. That's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: the frustrating part of this thing. The Browns had three
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: return touchdowns, two on defense, one on special teams to
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  Speaker 1: beat the Texans and Deshaun Watson's debut with the Cleveland Browns.
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  Speaker 1: That was in Houston, the Eagles and the Titans. This
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: is the one we were all watching and A J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown had a huge day against his former team. Hurts
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  Speaker 1: back pumps, looks he is photoga for A J. Brown
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  Speaker 1: who has it took at a score? J Brown tuck
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  Speaker 1: it away from play. Avery had scored a sucker touchdown
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  Speaker 1: of the game. I'm telling you, they gotta get these
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  Speaker 1: boys in the weight rooms. A J. Brown the ball is.
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  Speaker 1: This is really good coverage by Avery. But A J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's cool and calm and he just reached us over
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  Speaker 1: his back. Take a football away. He certainly did this.
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  Speaker 1: Merdal reason might quick on sports radio ninety four w
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  Speaker 1: i P in Philadelphia and one a day for the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver turned Eagle. Like I said earlier watching that tape, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, the Eagles did whatever they want
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  Speaker 1: to do on offense, and you know, hurted guys open
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  Speaker 1: all day long. And on the other side of the ball,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: they just dominated him up front. Bad performance by the Titans.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: The Cold hung around for a little bit, but then
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys blasted him the second half. After I went
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: to bed, it was fifty four to nineteen. My gosh,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: it was at nothing in the fourth quarter. Unreal, and
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: they just I fell asleep. They kept turning it over.
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  Speaker 1: They had a pick six, a fun a return. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was just, oh, it was so bad. It just
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  Speaker 1: kept happening. And you I mean, the Cold hung around
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  Speaker 1: in that game for a while, put a little scare
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  Speaker 1: into him, but that was you know, they just once
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  Speaker 1: it started, it didn't stop. Cold Stick. Let's take a
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: look at the AFC South standings and you'll find the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Colts still in second place. Tennessee at seven and five,
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  Speaker 1: Indy four eight and one, Jacksonville fort eight, Houston one,
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  Speaker 1: Tennant one, and there you go, five to go. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why it was such a missed opportunity, of course yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: because the Jacks could have been within two games with
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  Speaker 1: five to play. There's still in it, technically three games
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  Speaker 1: back with five to play. You know, if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for the NFC South to be the worst division in
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: the NFL, it still might be. I think it's I
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: actually think it's worth Yeah, it is worse, even though
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: they don't have a team with the winning record. It's
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: worse because Tampa Bay is probably better than Tennessee, or
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: as good as the Colts and the Saints, or the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Colts and the Falcons. They're same, Jackson, all the there are.
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  Speaker 1: It probably is worse because the Texans are worse than
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. Not a much, but they're worse. Let's take
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  Speaker 1: a look at some other games. Yeah, the Panthers there
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: are lot worse. Yeah, you're right, it's the worst division
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: of football. Didn't they drop Banker today? Yeah? They cut Baker.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: The Texans are one of two teams that have been
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: officially eliminated from the playoffs. Can you name the other?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Let me see the top of my hand. It's a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: good question. I've got I've got it. I think I've
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: got it. I think it's gonna be our first radio
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: hit coming up here as the Packers can't lose at
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Soldier Field apparently, Yeah it is Chicago Bears from the playoffs.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that call coming up in just a moment.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the Bears, the Bears a route goodbye. I
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: guess we're not getting the call from Yeah, I've found
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  Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, that's that's not gonna work out right now.
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  Speaker 1: But Calibama they're there and Roger for the touch stock
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Good job, way to go. I
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: remember Wayne Larvy when used to do Colorado football games
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: way back in the day about that JP's got nothing
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: for us. Does he tell me no, No, I've I've lost,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: I've lost. By the way, the Packers are still alive barely.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Look at how many teams. Look at all the teams
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: that are barely alive, like Jacksonville barely alive, and the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: whole South barely alive, and the other South NFC South.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's some bad teams. Packers beat
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: the Bears by the way eight nineteen. That was a
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Gayr Alexander interception. We were going to hear from Layne
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Larervy on the Packers radio network vikings over the Jets
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, Commanders and Giants tied twenty twenty after overtime
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: there and the Seahawks and the Rams. The Seahawks go
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: ahead late. Gene takes the snap Horman rush, but a
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: half roll flows back in signed art cut down Hawks,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Good? DK met Chad Ramsey was
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: all over him. T K put some big myths up
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: and says that ball is mine and the Seahawks take
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: the lead. Three. What a dark thrown by Geno Smith.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I love that it was a matchup between d K
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey because you have to say Jalen Ramsey
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: had him covered, but he was not able to keep
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: DK from making the catch. Steve Rabel and Dave Wyman
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: on Seahawks broadcasting over Jalen about that. Yeah, I mean
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: it was good coverage he used to make the play.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Couldn't get the play on the ball. But here's the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: other thing. Gino Smith leads the NFL and completion percentage.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Gino Smith is fourth in touchdowns. Gino Smith is fifth
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: in yards. Pete Carroll has the last laugh. I mean,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about a guy who, uh
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: who let Russell Wilson go and everybody killed him for it.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: And Russell Wilson's terrible right now? Uh yeah, not very good.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: So Pete, right now, the season ended today, we would
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: have the Jags of the fifth pick in the draft.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait a minute, Tony, this way too early.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: The Jags are still alive. What are you talking about? Right?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I thought we had to bring that up because guests
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: who would have the third and fourth picks. Two teams
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: that traded away those picks for quarterbacks, the Rams and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. It's incredible. It's incredible. I mean, is Nthangel
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Hackett make it the next year? Pete? No, I don't
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: think he does. Let me ask you this, what about
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: you watch golf on Sunday? If you're the Lions and
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: you have that pick, do you draft a quarterback? Yes? Yeah,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: you have to, right, you have to. I would I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: would draft the quarterback. I don't know who's out there,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a pretty deep quarterback draft. It's
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: not great quarterback class though. Well, then if I would
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: only then I wouldn't draft one. I'd only draft one
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: if I felt like he was a franchise guy, and
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: I would draft them and tell him, tell him and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: his agent, you're not playing no matter what this year.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do to win the job. And
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: I would say, and I tell Golf and his agent,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: it's your job, because I think the Lions with Golf
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: next year have a chance to be a playoffs team.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I agree. So you handle it like the Chiefs did
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: when Alex Smith was there, the same thing that the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Bengals did when they drafted Carson Palmer back in the
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: year year ago. So that's what I would do. Forty
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Niners over the Dolphins three seventeen. Garoppolo has done for
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: the year. Though for San fran that was bad because
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: they were rolling. They were going to get on a roll,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: and now they have Mr. Irrelevant starting at quarterback. He
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: was the last pick in the draft, Rock Party, and
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: you know what, he played well and Kyle Shanahan will
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: make it easy on him to play quarterback. So give
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: me a little background of Rock Party. Brock Purty is
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: his parents. His mother is um my wife, some of
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: the one of her best friends growing up So brock
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Party's grandparents are my my in law's best friends growing up.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: He grew up you know. Is he from Arizona though,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: So his parents moved to Arizona from southern California before
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: he was born, So he grew up in Arizona. But
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: my Angie, my wife grew up with his mom, like, like,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: that's very close and their parents. Yeah, and uh, my
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: in laws are still very close with Brock brock Party's grandparents.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: So my wife was very excited that brock Purty played
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: well and got to you know, and had success. So
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: it's a great story. I read somewhere Pete and maybe
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: he can. I think this is right. First uh, first quarterback,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: first player to be Mr. Element, last player pick to
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: ever complete a pass. Yes, Chad Kelly played for a
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: snap but never threw one, and now he plays in Canada.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Remember him the kid from uh But yeah, it's a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: great story and and the only problem I had with
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: it the kid grew up in Arizona and he didn't
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: go to Sue. That's the only problem I have with Maybe.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think they recruited him. I think he uh
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: if I remember right, the scholarship, That's why brother. He's
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: got a brother that plays at Nebraska now too. Yeah
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: who got he started at Florida State and then transferred
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: to Nebraska. Yeah, it's it's it's cool story. You know
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: what he played, Well, you gotta give him credit. Well,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: if you go back and watch him at Iowa State
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: and I followed him, he's one of the most competitive
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: kids you've ever seen, because like, there will be no moment,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: there will be no moment that's too big for him.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him against you know he
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: plays next week Tom Brady. Yeah, that's interesting. Will be
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: like I mean, he's limited, I mean s strength, but
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a smart kid and he is and
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: like you said, Kyl Shannah Hand will put him in
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: positions with that defense is defense is so good, Like
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: just don't turn it over football, he said. His comment
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: today or yesterday was he's been playing football longer than
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: I've been alive. It makes true. Bengals over the Chiefs
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: and the Raiders over the Charges. Quick look at the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: a f C playoff picture through Sunday the Vision Leaders, Bills, Chiefs, Ravens, Titans.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Wild card today would be Bengals, Dolphins, Jets, there's a
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: handful of teams in the hunt. In the NFC, I
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: don't see the Jaguars on that thing any there. They're
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: not on. I didn't put him on. I didn't have
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: enough room. Um the NFC, Philly, Minnesota, San Franz, Tampa,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Bay one through four, Division Leaders, Wild Card, Cowboys, Giants, Seahawks,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: handful of teams and the hunt. There. There is one
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: more game left, and it's Monday Night football. It's a
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: battle and the putrid NFC South Andy Dalton and the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints at fort eight had to Tampa to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: face Tom Brady and the somehow first place Tampa Bay
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers had five and six. Who you got fire the Cannons.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. I think Tampa will whim,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: but I think something about New Orleans that always gets
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: underneath Tom tom Brady's skin. They play him tough, they
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: shut him out in Tampa last year. I think it's close,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: but I'll take Tampa by a smidge smidge well, and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Tampa just can't score points offensively. I understand it well.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: I mean last week they had the running back average
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: almost six yards to carry. They didn't give them the ball.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: He we had like ten carries. I don't know what
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: they do. Firon call some runs. Alright, guys, have a
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: great one. Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. An eventful program, I'd
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: say on this Monday after forty fourteen loss to the Lions,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato and audio Brent Reaver on the video for
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: everyone involved, I'm J. P. Shadrick will catch you next time.
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