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Is Journey Already Looking For Its Next Singer? · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_00: Hey, what's up, y'all?
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SPEAKER_00: This is Ezra from Allegiant, and you are watching CMS-TV.
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SPEAKER_02: And we kick things off there with Tool with Eulogy for Chris.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, we did, damn it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That was kind of an interesting mix of tunes.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a little all over the place, but that's what we do here.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, we are into the second segment of the Classic Metal Show,
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SPEAKER_02: so I'll let you take it away since you have tons and tons and tons of stuff to get
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SPEAKER_02: to.
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SPEAKER_03: I do, and before I even get into the actual guts of what I want to talk about, I did want to.
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SPEAKER_03: I was going to mention it in the first segment, and I
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SPEAKER_01: just kind of forgot, but...
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SPEAKER_01: I know you specifically are always looking for music documentaries.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: I watched a really good one today about a guy that I really have zero interest
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SPEAKER_01: in musically or with his celebrity life at all, but it was fucking great.
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SPEAKER_01: It's on Hulu.
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SPEAKER_03: I forget what it's called, but it's about the drummer from Blink-182, Travis Barker.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: It's like called Life with Travis or something.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't remember what it was called.
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SPEAKER_03: But one, I don't like Blink-182 at all.
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SPEAKER_03: I just think that's fucking fake punk and I just don't dig that at all.
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SPEAKER_03: That Green Day, you know, that fake bullshit.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm not a fan of that.
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SPEAKER_01: And then he's married to Kourtney Kardashian and I'm really not a fan of her.
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SPEAKER_01: I could give two fucks about the Kardashians as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: But man, this was a great documentary.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, really, really great documentary.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you know his story at all,
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SPEAKER_03: but he kind of came up and was like this great drummer in a world
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SPEAKER_03: of average drummers and punk bands.
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SPEAKER_03: And, you know, and then Blink-182 hit.
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SPEAKER_01: They got popular.
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SPEAKER_01: He became a drug addict, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_01: But then he had a Buddy Holly moment where they had to fly on some ganked
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SPEAKER_03: up plane.
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SPEAKER_03: And they went up in the plane and the plane crashed.
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SPEAKER_03: And, um,
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SPEAKER_03: I think four of the six people on the plane got killed and he was one that survived,
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SPEAKER_03: but he got burned really pretty badly.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, and this is where it got weird for me.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying this is a highlight or a low light of this,
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SPEAKER_03: um, I'm just saying that for me, it was like really a little close to home.
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SPEAKER_03: He was burned 65% and I'm burned 69%.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: And they showed a whole lot of the stuff that he was going through,
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SPEAKER_03: the surgeries and the equipment and shit that they'd use.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, ooh, remember that?
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SPEAKER_01: Ooh, remember that?
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SPEAKER_01: I would imagine.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, damn, this is really close to home for me, seeing this part.
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SPEAKER_01: And they concentrated on that for, I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: it's obviously
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SPEAKER_03: the sell of the documentary is that this guy was in a plane crash
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SPEAKER_03: and burned up,
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SPEAKER_03: but he still lived and went back on to reunite with Blink and marry a Kardashian
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SPEAKER_03: and blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_03: All I got to say really is I won't get into too much about it because like I said,
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not a huge fan of the music or anything.
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SPEAKER_03: It's fucking great documentary.
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SPEAKER_03: It's one I know you would like.
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SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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SPEAKER_03: Because it really
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SPEAKER_01: dives deep.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it's not like most of these surface level ones that you get most of the time.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, well,
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SPEAKER_01: then they had success with this and they went on tour and they had a great time.
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SPEAKER_01: So then they went right back to the studio and did another one.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not like that at all.
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SPEAKER_01: It deals with how fucked up he was as a human being.
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SPEAKER_03: And his drug problems and the plane crash and how he tried to turn his life around
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SPEAKER_03: and, you know, tried, failed, tried, failed, then figured it out.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, so great documentary.
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SPEAKER_03: And again, I should probably be more prepared.
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SPEAKER_03: It's on Hulu.
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SPEAKER_03: Go to Hulu and look up Travis Barker.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sure it's the only thing that'll come up.
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SPEAKER_03: So that's a good one to watch if anybody's looking for something to watch.
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SPEAKER_02: So.
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SPEAKER_02: I did watch a documentary.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, what'd you watch?
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SPEAKER_02: I watched The Preacher's Wife.
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SPEAKER_02: Not familiar.
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SPEAKER_02: The Pastor's Wife or The Preacher's Wife.
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SPEAKER_02: What's it on?
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SPEAKER_02: It's on Netflix.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's a fucked up deal where a young up-and-coming church girl got involved with
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SPEAKER_02: the pastor and Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was grooming her from the time she was like a teenager.
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SPEAKER_02: She was like in the choir and stuff and she was an attractive girl and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was married and he had a couple kids and whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: And then he ended up,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: grooming her and they ended up having an affair, you know, and all this other shit.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was just so fucked up, but I won't give away the ending, but it just was... Bad, huh?
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SPEAKER_02: It's just amazing how people get so caught up in shit.
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SPEAKER_02: Rather than just see the light and see that this is not a good situation,
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SPEAKER_02: they just roll with it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But a lot of times, and again, I have not even seen this documentary.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm just making a blind assumption here.
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SPEAKER_03: A lot of times...
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SPEAKER_03: Pastors, preachers.
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SPEAKER_01: There's a reason that so many fuck kids.
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SPEAKER_01: And that reason is because they are treated almost with a higher regard than even their parents.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: And then that's what this thing was.
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SPEAKER_02: This guy was so, you know, what do you want to call charismatic?
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was so into his beliefs and religion.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And so on and so forth.
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SPEAKER_02: And she got caught up in his magnetism.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that it's a recurring story, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at look at David Koresh.
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SPEAKER_01: David Koresh had the women in there,
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SPEAKER_01: told the husbands they couldn't fuck their wives anymore because he was going
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SPEAKER_01: to be fucking them.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And then told them that they weren't married to him anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: And they just went with it.
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SPEAKER_01: They're like, OK, well, you're.
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SPEAKER_01: You're the new messiah.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll gladly let my wife suck your dick, sir.
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SPEAKER_01: But it happens.
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SPEAKER_01: The Nexum cult.
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SPEAKER_01: Remember when we were talking about the Nexum cult a year or two ago?
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SPEAKER_01: Wasn't that the same thing, too?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very similar.
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SPEAKER_01: Same thing.
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SPEAKER_01: They all do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Jim Jones, I believe, was fucking some of his followers.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I was just going to bring that up as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean.
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SPEAKER_02: Bathe her and bring her to me.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, she doesn't want to come?
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SPEAKER_01: Give her a glass of Kool-Aid.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Gone with you!
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: there's something about,
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SPEAKER_01: and it has to be,
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SPEAKER_01: that they are raised to absolutely worship their pastor, their priest, their leader.
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SPEAKER_01: They mistake the leader of the church for the spiritual
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SPEAKER_03: leader of their life.
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SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: And as we've documented a million times,
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SPEAKER_03: the people that are drawn to religion are the people that are fucked up.
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SPEAKER_03: You don't see too many people that are coasting through a good life
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SPEAKER_03: and having wealth and money and a great wife and a great job and all that.
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SPEAKER_03: You don't see too many of them running to the church.
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SPEAKER_03: It's usually the person that's like one step away from bankruptcy
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SPEAKER_01: and just had
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SPEAKER_01: a Just had a bout with lymphoma or something.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, I need Jesus to help me.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And they're easy, easy prey.
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SPEAKER_01: They're easy, easy prey.
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that's what always happens.
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SPEAKER_03: But, you know, I'll have to, what's it called?
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SPEAKER_03: The Preacher's Wife?
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's called, I think it's The Preacher's Wife.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm going to have to watch that.
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: It's brand new.
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SPEAKER_02: It's on Netflix.
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SPEAKER_02: I watched that this week.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just like, oh, man.
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SPEAKER_01: How could you be so dumb?
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SPEAKER_01: Ugh.
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SPEAKER_01: But then again, if they're raised like that from birth, they don't know any better.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, again, you know, they're very steeped in the church.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, she sang in the choir as a kid.
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SPEAKER_02: And she became, you know, like a youth leader.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, he showed favor on her because she was so involved.
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SPEAKER_03: Probably started when she was five years old, took her to the community pool or something.
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SPEAKER_03: Here, put on this little bikini.
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SPEAKER_03: Fucking pastors are creeps.
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SPEAKER_03: Almost all of them.
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SPEAKER_03: Almost.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, dude, there was a church I went to.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be careful at what I say on this.
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SPEAKER_03: There was a church when I was a youth that I used to visit on occasion.
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SPEAKER_03: Wasn't my normal church that was like right behind my house, but it was a church that I went to.
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SPEAKER_03: I was real into church.
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SPEAKER_03: Believe it or not.
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SPEAKER_00: As much as I'm the fuck you man and the porn guy now,
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SPEAKER_00: when I was a kid I really was interested in religion.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And...
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SPEAKER_01: I got baptized numerous times on my own, not because my parents
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SPEAKER_03: forced me to do it.
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SPEAKER_03: My mom and dad were not into it.
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SPEAKER_03: Most of the time when I would go to church,
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SPEAKER_03: it was with other families and stuff because my parents weren't going
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SPEAKER_03: to no fucking church.
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SPEAKER_01: But at this one church in particular,
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SPEAKER_01: by the time I turned about 14 or 15,
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SPEAKER_01: the pastor just all of a sudden wasn't there anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_01: But I would say religion is one of those places where
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SPEAKER_03: the freaks that want
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SPEAKER_03: to fuck kids know that they can have an easier time doing it.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, they can have a lot easier time.
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SPEAKER_03: Same with teachers.
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SPEAKER_03: Same reason teachers do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, they're put in a place of trust.
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SPEAKER_02: A place of trust, a place of power.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then they abuse that, obviously.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, we know what Judge Akin would say about this.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not guilty on all counts.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, the name of the thing is called Death of the Pastor's Wife.
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SPEAKER_02: Death of the Pastor.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, I will check that out tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, a couple good documentaries, I guess, for people.
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SPEAKER_01: If you want to watch a guy getting burned in a plane or you want to watch
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SPEAKER_01: a pastor fucking kids, we got you covered here on the CMS.
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SPEAKER_02: He didn't bang her when she was underage.
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SPEAKER_02: Allegedly.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, he started up an affair with her.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, when she was like 18 or something like that.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: So.
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SPEAKER_03: That's wild.
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SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's get into some equally awful topic,
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SPEAKER_03: but at least we're in music because I know that's what people want to hear.
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SPEAKER_03: Some music talk.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_03: So let's talk some music.
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SPEAKER_03: I want to go back to a story we did.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know, a month or two ago when John Karabi left the Dead Daisies, I guess.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: So that happened and it is what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: And obviously Glenn Hughes is now not in the Dead Daisies
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SPEAKER_01: because he's having heart issues of his own and blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_01: But Karabi put out, he did an interview
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SPEAKER_03: with Rock Show Critique.
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SPEAKER_03: Which I'm not familiar with.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying it's bad or good.
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SPEAKER_03: I just am not familiar with it.
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SPEAKER_03: But he did an interview with them and he was asked about this topic again.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll read you what he said.
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SPEAKER_01: You tell me if he's now boxed himself into a corner and trying to get himself out of it or not.
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SPEAKER_01: Not that I think he gives two fucks because it is the Dead Daisies, not Motley Crue.
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SPEAKER_01: But I don't know about this explanation.
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SPEAKER_01: I was actually okay with the, well, I don't know what happened, onward we go explanation.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that was all we needed to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: But now that he's putting some quote-unquote facts to it,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm really starting to think that the element that fucked up is him.
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SPEAKER_03: And it could very well be.
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SPEAKER_03: It might be.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think we'll ever know for sure because clearly they're not all telling
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SPEAKER_03: the same story.
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SPEAKER_01: But I just want to read you this clip from Karabi.
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SPEAKER_01: In a new interview with Joe Soto of Rock Show Critique,
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SPEAKER_01: former Motley, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_01: He was asked about leaving the band two months ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's what he said.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what?
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SPEAKER_01: Honestly,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want to get into a bunch of mudslinging,
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SPEAKER_01: but at the end of the day,
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SPEAKER_01: I was told,
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SPEAKER_01: and my bass player was told,
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SPEAKER_01: because Michael Devin,
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SPEAKER_01: now former Dead Daisies bassist and current member of Karabi's solo band,
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SPEAKER_01: actually played with me in the Daisies as well.
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SPEAKER_01: And we were told that we were taking a year off.
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SPEAKER_01: We did record a live album last year.
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SPEAKER_01: At the last show that we did, which was called Live at Stone Dead.
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SPEAKER_01: And in the same conversation, the manager said, we're taking a year off.
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SPEAKER_01: And he said, hey, we recorded the last show.
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SPEAKER_01: We're going to create a link.
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SPEAKER_01: We're going to put it on Spotify for all of our fans who weren't there and couldn't be there.
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SPEAKER_01: A kind of free thing to the fans.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know what changed, but I couldn't tell you what's in his mind, the manager.
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SPEAKER_01: But there were some issues that he did speak to my manager about.
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SPEAKER_01: And then my solo band and I went over to Europe in February and we got back from there.
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SPEAKER_01: And it was weird.
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SPEAKER_01: It was right about the time I put the record out for pre-sale.
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SPEAKER_01: It was shortly after that I started noticing the Dead Daisies were asking me
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SPEAKER_01: to collaborate on their pre-sale.
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SPEAKER_01: And he stresses their pre-sale.
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SPEAKER_01: And I looked at Michael and said, did you know about this record that they're doing?
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SPEAKER_01: And he goes, what?
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SPEAKER_01: He had no idea.
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SPEAKER_01: I had no idea.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm going to stop there before I read the rest of this.
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SPEAKER_01: He did have an idea.
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SPEAKER_01: He just said it two seconds ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: That they told him that they were doing it.
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SPEAKER_01: They just said it was going to be free.
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SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_01: And maybe I'm crazy, but couldn't that have just changed in a business decision?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: We just decided that we're going to release it for some sort
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SPEAKER_03: of commercial sale instead of free.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, is that unusual or uncommon?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, again, I don't know what, what's the guy who owns Dead Daisies?
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SPEAKER_02: What's his name?
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SPEAKER_02: David Lowy.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Again.
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SPEAKER_02: Not knowing what his motivation is to have this Dead Daisies.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe he's not interested in a commercial aspect of releasing a live album
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SPEAKER_02: for profit or gain or anything.
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SPEAKER_01: Or maybe he wasn't at first,
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SPEAKER_01: but whoever manages the business was like,
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SPEAKER_01: hold on, we're not going to just give this away.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, it could have been that too.
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SPEAKER_01: My point is,
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SPEAKER_01: The fact that they're asking Karabi to participate in the promotion kind
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SPEAKER_01: of very clearly says what they're doing.
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SPEAKER_01: So to say that he didn't know what they were doing just doesn't feel honest.
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SPEAKER_01: Does it to you?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And again, you don't know, too, that, well, what's my compensation for doing this?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And.
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SPEAKER_02: He may think that he's owed some compensation for participation, and maybe that's an issue.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, well, I'm not doing this for nothing.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, he would still get a piece of whatever they sell, whatever his contract is.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: You assume that.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: True.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: You assume that.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure it's all business related.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: It's something that we'll never know for sure.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: But I'm sure it's just like, well, I'm not going to.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: And again, I don't even know.
19:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm just speculating.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: This has to do with, you know, what's my piece of this thing?
19:08
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, well, there really isn't because we already have a contract with you.
19:13
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: To do.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: The shows and whatever, and that should cover this too.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
19:26
SPEAKER_02: And again, Karabi might think he's due something in addition to, and again, I don't know that.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm just speculating that maybe this could be a problem between Karabi and the band.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: Could be.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: And you're probably right on it.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he wanted to get paid if he's going to do, you know, two days of interviews.
19:49
SPEAKER_03: He wants to be paid $500 or whatever to do it.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Could be.
19:54
SPEAKER_03: You know, you'd think he'd want to promote something he sang on, but.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: Again, I guess it is business.
20:01
SPEAKER_03: It's not, hey,
20:02
SPEAKER_01: we're in a band.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: This is the coolest thing ever, man.
20:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:07
SPEAKER_03: All right.
20:07
SPEAKER_03: I'll read a little more of what he had to say.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: Again, without going into details,
20:14
SPEAKER_01: a lot of people think I left because the Dead Daisies were doing shows
20:19
SPEAKER_01: with Glenn Hughes.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't give a shit less about that.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: I could care less.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: This was about the fact that for some reason,
20:27
SPEAKER_01: whatever it was, they said we're taking a year off.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: They decided to put that link out that we were going to give to everybody for free.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: We were going to give it to everybody for free.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: They decided to make vinyl out of it,
20:43
SPEAKER_01: and then they decided to put the record out on the exact same time as mine.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: And my record came out April 24th.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Their record came out May 1st.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: And I just said, you know what?
20:56
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, did I leave the band?
20:58
SPEAKER_01: I said, yes, because they kept moving the goalpost.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: So I wrote David Lowy a letter and said, I don't understand why you guys are doing this.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: You said this, you said this, this and this, and the complete opposite is happening.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: So I don't do business this way.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm out.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Talk to you later.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: Bye.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: And that was it.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: Done and whatever.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: They put out a press release that said I was leaving.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: So it sounds like he voluntarily quit because it conflicted with his solo stuff.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: I guess.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: You know.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: So it was just a disagreement in direction or whatever the case may be.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: And he may have felt that the Dead Daisies were overshadowing his solo record.
21:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't know John that well.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I've obviously interviewed him a bunch of times and written a book about
22:05
SPEAKER_03: The Motley record that he did and whatever.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: So I know him a little bit, but I don't know him, Noam.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: Am I crazy in thinking that if this all is indeed the problem, that this is a big overreaction?
22:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, again, you know, they always say let cooler heads prevail.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, that could have been like a knee-jerk action.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Like maybe he was told, well, you know, we're going to, And I get that.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: I agree with that point.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm just thinking that
23:02
SPEAKER_03: This is the kind of shit that could have probably been sorted out on a Zoom call?
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Probably, probably.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Instead of a, well, if you do that, I'm fucking out of here.
23:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, maybe he wasn't happy with the situation with the dead days he used to begin with.
23:17
SPEAKER_02: And that could be.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: He just looking for a reason to, you know.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: But why wouldn't he say that?
23:22
SPEAKER_01: Because I don't know.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Do you think he looks bad here?
23:25
SPEAKER_01: I think he looks bad here.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, again, everything's still a little bit convoluted.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: And again, I'm.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: I am not a fan of, well, I have to air it out for everybody to, you know, mice.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
23:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm out of the dead daisies.
23:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:41
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
23:41
SPEAKER_03: And that should have probably been his answer to this guy when he asked the question.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't like how people feel as if they have to take this to the court of public opinion.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: I say this all the time.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: It's none of your business.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm not in the dead daisies now.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm doing my solo thing.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to talk
23:59
SPEAKER_03: to me about my solo record or not?
24:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's it.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: Everybody doesn't need to know everything.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:08
SPEAKER_03: But there's that part where they want to see their name out on Blabbermouth and on
24:14
SPEAKER_03: the sites and whatever, too.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: That's what rock stars do.
24:18
SPEAKER_03: They're always looking for that next headline, that next marquee, as they say.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: So you're with me, though?
24:27
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't look good here?
24:29
SPEAKER_02: No.
24:30
SPEAKER_02: Again...
24:32
SPEAKER_02: I just think he should have just left it at this, well, I don't know what happened.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: This acting like he's completely surprised and blindsided by all this.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: But with these statements that he's making now, he totally knows what happened.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he definitely knows.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: He knows.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: He just doesn't want to say it for some reason.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: Might be an NDA.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: Could be.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Dead Daisies, we've never heard, they've had 43 members come out of that band.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: We've never heard one guy say anything.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:07
SPEAKER_03: So it might be an NDA.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got paid for your services while you were here.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: All right, well, that's that.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: All right, now I want to play a game with you.
25:18
SPEAKER_03: Just a quick game.
25:18
SPEAKER_03: All right.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: Let me pull this up.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: All right.
25:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to put a picture on the screen here in a second.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: I want you to tell me who this band is.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: I purposely blacked out one of the members because it would be a dead giveaway.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: I'll even give you a hint.
25:40
SPEAKER_03: This is a band that has sold somewhere in the realm of 80 to 90 million records.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:51
SPEAKER_03: And I'm betting you can't tell me who this fucking band.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
25:56
SPEAKER_03: All right.
25:57
SPEAKER_03: All right, so let me pop this in here.
25:59
SPEAKER_03: Here's the band.
26:01
SPEAKER_03: Go to screen share.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: Do you know who this band is?
26:11
SPEAKER_02: What genre?
26:13
SPEAKER_03: Classic rock.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: Classic rock.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: One of the biggest of all time.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:20
SPEAKER_03: Certainly when I tell you who it is, you can name 15 songs off the top of your head.
26:24
SPEAKER_03: All right.
26:25
SPEAKER_03: So can everybody listening.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: That blonde guy looks familiar, but I just can't.
26:36
SPEAKER_03: This guy?
26:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the guy with the glasses.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:42
SPEAKER_03: He looks like Toby Jepsen from The Little Angels.
26:44
SPEAKER_03: I'll give you another hint.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: That's not him.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: No, I just wouldn't know.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: You don't have any idea who that is.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: No.
27:02
SPEAKER_03: All right.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: Well, then,
27:04
SPEAKER_03: let me kick that back out here,
27:08
SPEAKER_03: and I'll kick this out, and then I'll show you another picture.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: Find the story so I can show you the actual picture, and then you'll be like, oh, of course.
27:21
SPEAKER_03: Share this tab.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: It's Foreigner.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's who's going out as Foreigner.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: That's Foreigner.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: Foreigner announced the tour, Four City Acoustic Tour.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: All right.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: I just saw this and I was like, there's no one that can pick this out as Foreigner.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just some guys playing Foreigner music.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: And even Jeff's not an original.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: I just knew because we know Jeff that if I left Jeff in the picture, you'd get it right away.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: But how sad is this?
28:02
SPEAKER_01: I know it's good.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: Me and you together saw this,
28:07
SPEAKER_01: a version of this, not this version,
28:09
SPEAKER_03: but we saw a version of this, and it was good.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: It was Kelly Hansen, and obviously Nick Jones was still in the band.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Jason Bonham.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Jason Bonham was in there.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: And Pilsen
28:23
SPEAKER_03: was in there.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: It was a great show,
28:26
SPEAKER_03: and they sounded like Foreigner, and they probably still sound like Foreigner.
28:30
SPEAKER_02: Which one's the new singer guy?
28:32
SPEAKER_03: I think the guy with the hat.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: I could be wrong on that, though.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I don't know shit.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: You're probably right.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: It's probably the guy with the hat.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: Foreigner,
28:43
SPEAKER_01: one of the most celebrated bands,
28:45
SPEAKER_01: has announced Foreigner Unplugged,
28:47
SPEAKER_01: a four-show European tour that will bring the band's catalog of top ten songs
28:52
SPEAKER_01: to audiences in a rare
28:54
SPEAKER_03: stripped-down acoustic setting.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: It's not Foreigner.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: It's just not Foreigner.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: Dee Snider's absolutely right this week when he said that these guys need to stop
29:07
SPEAKER_03: with the no original members going out as these bands.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at Chicago.
29:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they need to stop.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: They all need to stop.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: It's not Chicago.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: It's just a bunch of people now just performing Chicago songs.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Last week we talked about Twisted Sister.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: That's not Twisted Sister.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: That's Sebastian Bach.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: That's closer to Sebastian Bach than Twisted Sister.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's like enough with
29:39
SPEAKER_01: this shit.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: All of them.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to say it about all of them.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll say it about Dokken.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Stop.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: Stop.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: You're not.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: You're Don Dokken.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: And friends.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: You're not Dokken.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: At least on their end, they do have a couple of albums together.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: I'll give them that.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: On the docking side.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: Has Foreigner done a record?
30:02
SPEAKER_01: I know they haven't done a record with this Louis Maldonado guy.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: No.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: They say you should never look back, but I've never been good at following orders.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm Chris Akin,
30:14
SPEAKER_01: and while most of you know me for the radio and the interviews,
30:17
SPEAKER_01: I've got a past that would make social justice warriors' heads explode.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: My latest book and other things I should not say isn't a self-help manual.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: It's an autopsy of the years 1986 to 1990.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Four years of sex, booze,
30:35
SPEAKER_01: and absolute chaos while I was serving in the military in Korea and California.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about stories that stay buried in the back of your memory
30:45
SPEAKER_01: because society tells you they're wrong and ugly.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Well...
30:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't live in fear of my past.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: Every filthy,
30:53
SPEAKER_01: calloused and ridiculous moment in this book actually happened and I'm damn proud
30:58
SPEAKER_01: to share it.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: If you're easily offended, keep walking, pal.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: But if you want to see what happens when you pack a lifetime of dangerous living
31:07
SPEAKER_01: into just four years,
31:09
SPEAKER_01: head over to Amazon.com or just go to the link in the description and grab yourself
31:16
SPEAKER_01: a copy today.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: Both middle fingers are up and the truth is right here.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: Get some CMS, uncensored.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: And other things I should not say is the book and it is sure to offend and sicken
31:30
SPEAKER_01: and make you laugh like you never have before.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: I think they only did one record with Kelly, didn't they?
31:37
SPEAKER_01: And I think it was a covers album of their old stuff, wasn't it?
31:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think they have one original album with Kelly.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: Do they?
31:44
SPEAKER_02: Then they did the re-record of the Foreigner stuff.
31:48
SPEAKER_03: Cold as Ice and Urgent and stuff.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Which, again, I like all that stuff.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: It's like what Journey did with Arnell.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: They re-recorded their biggest hits.
31:59
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
32:00
SPEAKER_03: And like Journey's going to do again with this new guy,
32:02
SPEAKER_03: with Hugo, Hugo Valenti, whatever his name is.
32:07
SPEAKER_03: Did you see that this week?
32:09
SPEAKER_02: No.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, let's find that for you then.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: What are they going to do?
32:16
SPEAKER_01: There's a guy out there named Hugo Valenti.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:19
SPEAKER_03: He's in, I've actually seen this tribute band.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: I think it's called Voyager or Rubicon
32:26
SPEAKER_01: or something.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: But I've seen this guy.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: This guy is a dead ringer for Steve Perry,
32:33
SPEAKER_01: not only in sound, but he looks exactly like him as well.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: And he showed up in Japan.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: He's from America.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: He showed up in Japan to play a couple of songs for two different nights.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: And the wide speculation is that that's it for Arnell.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, probably.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, he wanted to get out prior to this tour.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: And this tour with Jonathan Cain ends, what, in a month or two?
33:04
SPEAKER_03: I think it ends in November.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, allegedly.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't think Journey's going to end.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: I think Journey with Jonathan Cain is going to end.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: And with Jonathan, since he's walking away, that might be the time for Arnell to split.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: And they're road-testing the new guy.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, we kind of knew that because Neil Sean took that photo.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: With those four other dudes.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Let me find you a good.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: So what do you mean this guy showed up in Japan?
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Is Journey in Japan right now?
33:43
SPEAKER_03: Journey's in Japan.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: So this guy showed up and played with?
33:47
SPEAKER_01: Played, sang faithfully.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: I'll play it.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: All right.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: But when you see him, he looks like Steve Perry.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: This is the guy they should have had the entire time.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: Nothing against Arnell.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe they didn't know about him then.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: Probably not, but this guy is.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: How old is this guy?
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Is he younger?
34:10
SPEAKER_03: He's probably their age.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's older?
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's not young.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: I saw him like 12, 15 years ago.
34:16
SPEAKER_03: It's been a long time.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: I saw him at, like, I forget what it was.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: It was some tribute thing.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Like one of these things at, like, Lock 3 or up in Elyria or somewhere.
34:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
34:29
SPEAKER_03: Rock the park or some bullshit.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: But I saw him.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: He's great.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: He's a dead ringer, though.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, just more the look than the sound.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he sounds just like him, too, but you'll see.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: Tonight!
34:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah!
34:52
SPEAKER_00: It's about the road life we live.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: How we all have to stay together.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: Be committed.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: Just like all you Journey fans out there.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: We just want to thank you so much for being here tonight.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Tonight, we have a friend all the way from Long Island, New York.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: He came to Japan for the first time.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: He's a friend of the band.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: We'd like to introduce you to him right now.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Give it up for Hugo Valente.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you,
35:45
SPEAKER_01: these Japanese people have no idea what Jonathan Cain think,
35:49
SPEAKER_01: and they think Steve Perry just walked on stage.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: I know.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: They're reacting as if Steve Perry is making a guest appearance.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: They have no idea what he just said.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: And they think Steve Perry showed up, because he looks exactly like him.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's funny.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: Wait till you hear him.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what would have been really funny?
36:10
SPEAKER_02: What?
36:11
SPEAKER_02: Is if he showed up with the long tail tuxedo.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:15
SPEAKER_01: They should have done that.
36:17
SPEAKER_01: They shouldn't even have introduced him.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: They should have just had him walk on, sing the song, and leave.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: We got a special guest who wants to sing a song,
36:24
SPEAKER_02: and he walks out with that long-tail tuxedo jacket on.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: And never say his name.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: Just be like, hey, half of the world would have thought it was really Steve Perry.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Right.
36:36
SPEAKER_03: They would have got so much press for doing it that way.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's funny.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: All right, watch this.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: That would have been great if they did it that way.
36:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but they're chicken shit.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: John the Cain ain't going to do that.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: He's a big puss.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Listen to that ovation.
36:58
Come on.
37:00
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Restless house, sleep a lurking night.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Send me all my love, will I know where they are?
37:25
SPEAKER_00: And stay in the road, ain't no place to start.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: If I hadn't told you that this wasn't him, would you think it was him?
37:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, I know it's not him, I mean, but dead ringer.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: And looks,
38:00
SPEAKER_03: he looks like
38:01
SPEAKER_01: him.
38:03
SPEAKER_03: That's amazing how much, how much he looks like him.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
38:08
SPEAKER_02: But he's in a Journey tribute band?
38:11
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, that makes sense that, you know, he's got his hair cut like that.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's being Steve Perry, but.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: Basically, yeah.
38:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:21
SPEAKER_03: Alright, here we go.
38:23
All right.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: Faithfully.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: If I kiss the love, I'm gonna be.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: He's got the mannerisms.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: He's got all the moves and everything.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: It's funny.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: He is a dead ringer, man.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
39:32
SPEAKER_02: that is funny.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: And you got to think, he's nervous as fuck doing this.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, he knows this is his audition.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, this is his audition.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: Now, you think they had him come out and do one song two nights in a row?
39:47
SPEAKER_02: Flew him to Japan?
39:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, Arnell wanted out.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:54
SPEAKER_02: He wanted out prior to this tour because of all of his legal issues and vocal issues
40:00
SPEAKER_02: and things he's been having problems with.
40:02
SPEAKER_03: Dealing with Neil and Jonathan.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, let's play a little more of this.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: It really is amazing how, again, vocally, this is not the best.
40:17
SPEAKER_03: He sounds better in his tribute band than this.
40:20
SPEAKER_03: I will tell you that.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: But...
40:22
SPEAKER_01: Man, does he look the part.
40:25
SPEAKER_01: He really looked.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: Now, if a foreigner would have had this guy, the equivalent of Mick Jones, I'd be okay with it.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: Because at least this guy makes you,
40:35
SPEAKER_01: you see this guy on stage with Neil Sean, you're like, all right, it's Journey.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't this feel way more like Journey than some Filipino guy coming out there?
40:44
SPEAKER_02: It does.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: It just feels more like Journey.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Trust us in time.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, is it?
41:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, we're seeing it again.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: It's back.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: So what do you think?
42:00
SPEAKER_01: New singer journey?
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: They'll be announcing him like November 1st.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Neil's not going to let go of a cash cow.
42:09
SPEAKER_03: Fuck no.
42:12
SPEAKER_03: He has to.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: How else is he going to get his credit card bills paid?
42:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: But to call this Journey's Farewell Tour and all that shit.
42:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, it's Jonathan Cain's Farewell Tour, I think.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, more or less.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: I think he's probably going to go with that title that he illegally released
42:29
SPEAKER_03: that live album with.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: He'll probably call it Journey Through Time.
42:33
SPEAKER_03: Don't you think?
42:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he's going to call it Journey, just straight up Journey.
42:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't think Jonathan Cain will let him.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: I think that would end up tied up in court for years.
42:45
SPEAKER_03: And they don't have years to be tied up in court.
42:48
SPEAKER_03: Probably easier for him to go out with journey through time, through time being real small.
42:55
SPEAKER_03: Don't you think?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: You want a little more of this?
43:01
SPEAKER_01: Want to hear this guy do the high notes?
43:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, go ahead.
43:04
SPEAKER_03: All right, there we go.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: Fucked it up.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: That's the dude.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: You'll be seeing more of him in the near future.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: 2027, you'll be seeing a lot of that guy.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: Arnel Panetta, never to be seen again.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: He's going to go back to his grass shack in the Philippines.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: Or jail.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:21
SPEAKER_01: I got a feeling he ain't going back to the Philippines.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: He's probably going to send money to fly
45:26
SPEAKER_03: his family over the States.
45:29
SPEAKER_03: Hoping he doesn't get extradited.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but that happened this week.
45:37
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's happening.
45:38
SPEAKER_03: There's no way.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: Why would they do this otherwise?
45:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's no reason to do that.
45:45
SPEAKER_02: There's no reason.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: Why are they bringing this guy to Japan to come out and sing a song with him?
45:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: And they don't need to.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: And even if Arnell's having trouble hitting the notes, they got Dean.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: Dean can hit those notes.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: That is the new line of paternity, I think.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, good on him if he gets that gig.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of Jonathan Cain and Neil Sean,
46:17
SPEAKER_02: did you happen to look at that little documentary I sent you on Bad English?
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: Did you enjoy that?
46:25
SPEAKER_02: I sort of knew a lot of that anyway.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, I did too,
46:28
SPEAKER_02: but it was kind of interesting that that guy put it together in the perspective
46:36
SPEAKER_02: that he did.
46:37
SPEAKER_03: Really is funny to hear how much John Waite hated it.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he didn't enjoy it.
46:42
SPEAKER_03: He hated it.
46:44
SPEAKER_03: And you would think he would have loved it.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: I loved the first Bad English record.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: I really liked that one with Forget Me Not and stuff.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: That was good.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it prompted me to listen to that on my way to work.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: That's a good record.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: I pulled out the Bad English and listened to it.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: You know what else was good?
47:00
SPEAKER_03: Kind of out of that,
47:01
SPEAKER_03: there was that one little moment in time when we had all that journey music
47:05
SPEAKER_03: or journey related music coming out.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: That first record from The Storm.
47:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:12
SPEAKER_03: I pulled that out about a month ago.
47:13
SPEAKER_03: That's a fucking good record.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: Just so good.
47:17
SPEAKER_03: That Chalfant guy.
47:18
SPEAKER_03: Kevin Chalfant.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: What's the song?
47:22
SPEAKER_03: I've done a lot to learn about love.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I do.
47:27
SPEAKER_03: It's a great record.
47:29
SPEAKER_03: So good.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have it.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: Is it filed in the wrong place?
47:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I put it under the or if I put it under storm.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: But it's on the shelf back here.
47:43
SPEAKER_03: It's a good record, man.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: Very good stuff.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's when Journey was broke up and there was no Journey music.
47:49
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: And that's when he was doing his thing.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: That's when Taiketo was kind of hitting.
47:57
SPEAKER_03: Or not Taiketo.
47:58
SPEAKER_03: What was the other band that Augeri was in?
48:00
SPEAKER_03: Tall Stories.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: Tall Stories.
48:02
SPEAKER_03: Remember Tall Stories.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: And he sounded just like Perry as well, which is why he got the gig.
48:09
SPEAKER_03: That guy's out there still, but boy.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: I hope Arnell has been watching what Augeri's doing
48:14
SPEAKER_03: because Augeri has not been able even a little bit to parlay His time in Journey
48:21
SPEAKER_03: into something.
48:23
SPEAKER_03: He's out there playing fucking the Five O'Clock Band on Foreigner gigs.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he is.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's like legitimate.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: I think he did like a couple of those like Bret Michaels, what do they call that?
48:39
SPEAKER_03: The Party Grah?
48:40
SPEAKER_02: Right.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: I think he played a few of those and came out on stage to sing a Journey song
48:44
SPEAKER_03: that wasn't even his version of Journey.
48:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: But if you think about it,
48:50
SPEAKER_03: nobody that has been the singer of Journey has ever been able to parlay it.
48:55
SPEAKER_03: Steve Perry, I guess, but he was still in Journey when he did the street talk.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, street talk.
49:04
SPEAKER_03: When he did street talk, he was still in Journey.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
49:07
SPEAKER_02: And then he was out there doing a solo thing for the love of strange medicine.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which I like that other than the heavy breathing on every song.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: But I saw that.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: Torrey played at the Cleveland Music Hall.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Music Hall.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: I went to that.
49:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm big.
49:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love Steve.
49:25
SPEAKER_03: Steve Perry's probably my favorite singer that there ever has been, but.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, singer.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: Singer now.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: Mr. Singing over his dentures.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: Over his dentures.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: But if you think about every other singer, Augeri's done nothing.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: Soto wasn't able to use, I mean, he was only in there for a minute and a half, but.
49:45
SPEAKER_03: He wasn't able to do anything with it.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: And what's Arnell going to do?
49:50
SPEAKER_03: Do you think people are going to be...
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Clambering for some Arnell?
49:54
SPEAKER_02: No.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't think so either.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: I think once Arnell is done with Journey, I think that's the end of his career.
50:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:02
SPEAKER_03: Or he'll become one of those doogie white Gary Barden guys that just plays
50:07
SPEAKER_03: on anytime anybody asks him to do something.
50:11
SPEAKER_03: Like Ronnie Romero.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: Because I'd like to think he made enough money over his 20 years in Journey.
50:16
SPEAKER_02: I would hope so.
50:18
SPEAKER_02: That he wouldn't have to go slog it out,
50:22
SPEAKER_02: trying to be a solo artist or reliving the Journey days.
50:28
SPEAKER_03: But you never know.
50:29
SPEAKER_03: He might also become that guy at every fucking state fair.
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51:25
SPEAKER_01: Arnel Panetta doing the music of Journey.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: And he'll do all the same Steve Perry songs and then he'll mix in one of his own.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: He'll mix in like Like a Sun Shower or whatever that song is called.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: You know,
51:39
SPEAKER_01: some one song from his era and then all the rest will just be,
51:45
SPEAKER_01: you know, Steve Perry era.
51:46
SPEAKER_01: Because really, who cares?
51:48
SPEAKER_01: They did two or three records.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: Can you name two songs?
51:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Of the Arnell era?
51:54
SPEAKER_02: No.
51:56
SPEAKER_01: Can you name those three albums?
51:57
SPEAKER_01: No.
51:59
SPEAKER_02: No.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, one was called... Shit, I can't name them either.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
52:10
SPEAKER_03: Off the top of my head, I
52:12
SPEAKER_02: don't know.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: The only non-Steve Perry Journey record I know is Arrival with...
52:18
SPEAKER_03: With Jerry.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: Jerry.
52:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, let's see.
52:23
SPEAKER_03: Journey's coming here November 12th.
52:26
SPEAKER_03: May have to go to that.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: Where are they playing?
52:30
SPEAKER_03: The Rocket Arena, Gund Arena.
52:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, they can play the arena, huh?
52:35
SPEAKER_03: Doesn't mean it'll be full.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
52:39
SPEAKER_03: Just because they can play there don't mean it to be full.
52:42
SPEAKER_03: I don't think they're big enough to sell that place, but...
52:46
SPEAKER_01: The last three have been called Revelation, Eclipse, and Freedom.
52:55
SPEAKER_03: Any of that ring a bell?
52:57
SPEAKER_03: No.
52:59
SPEAKER_03: No one cared.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: It was over.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: They all sold rock.
53:05
SPEAKER_03: Not even platinum, just a plain old rock.
53:09
SPEAKER_03: 100 copies each.
53:12
SPEAKER_03: All right.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think that's where we should leave this, I guess.
53:18
SPEAKER_03: What do you think?
53:19
SPEAKER_02: All right.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Works for me.
53:22
SPEAKER_03: Believe it or not, that's been about an hour.
53:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
53:25
SPEAKER_02: It's wild.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's interesting that they dragged this guy to Japan to come out there and sing.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean,
53:35
SPEAKER_01: clearly it's not, hey,
53:36
SPEAKER_01: this is our good buddy who we flew to Japan halfway around the world
53:43
SPEAKER_01: to sing one song two
53:45
SPEAKER_03: nights in a row.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: You know damn well they flew him out there to say,
53:50
SPEAKER_03: let's see how you do on stage in front of a bunch of people that won't know
53:54
SPEAKER_01: if you're really Steve Perry or not.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: They're really getting a vibe of how will it work in the everywhere.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: What's the acceptance of this?
54:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: They go to Tokyo, where it's probably an easier sell than here in the States.
54:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, if they do it here in the States, it'll just get every cocksucker with an X account.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: It'll be like, this guy fucking sucks.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: It's terrible.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: It's not Steve Perry.
54:19
SPEAKER_01: He's fucking garbage.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: Who are they trying to fool?
54:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, frauds.
54:26
SPEAKER_01: Journey into Fake Band.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's pretty much par for the course, too.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
54:37
SPEAKER_03: That's where we are in 2026.
54:40
SPEAKER_03: At least with that one, he sort of looks the part, too.
54:44
SPEAKER_03: Unlike every other one of these guys that we look at, and we're like, how does this guy fit?
54:49
SPEAKER_03: They don't fit at all, but that guy at least looks like he's in Journey.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: He does.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they just, you know...
54:56
SPEAKER_02: Dress him up in some stage clothes and,
54:59
SPEAKER_02: you know,
55:00
SPEAKER_02: give him the look that he's part of the band instead of walking in from Seattle.
55:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
55:12
SPEAKER_01: He's a journey singer that's also part-time in Soundgarden
55:15
SPEAKER_03: or something.
55:16
SPEAKER_03: Right.
55:18
SPEAKER_03: Did you see that they're playing Soundgarden is going to play...
55:23
SPEAKER_03: I forget where it is that they're playing,
55:24
SPEAKER_03: but they're playing like halftime of an NFL game with Taylor Momsen from
55:32
SPEAKER_03: The Pretty Reckless as the singer.
55:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
55:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm like, oof.
55:39
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love Taylor Momsen.
55:40
SPEAKER_03: I am a total fan of her, and I think she's great.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: And I think she's completely a miss for Soundgarden.
55:49
SPEAKER_03: But then again, what do I know?
55:50
SPEAKER_03: I thought that the girls singing for Linkin Park was going to be a disaster,
55:53
SPEAKER_03: and they've done quite well with that.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: Apparently,
55:57
SPEAKER_03: we're in that zone of we'll accept girls singing guy songs as long as they keep them
56:05
SPEAKER_03: in key.
56:08
SPEAKER_03: We will see.
56:09
SPEAKER_02: It's like Lizzie Hale singing for Skid Row.
56:11
SPEAKER_03: Skid Row, exactly.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I saw that the warning of all bands is also doing an NFL hat.
56:17
SPEAKER_03: They're doing like the kickoff show that's in like, I don't know, it's in Mexico or something.
56:24
SPEAKER_03: They're having the kickoff football games in Mexico and the warning is playing at halftime.
56:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, goddamn, that band just blew up all of a sudden, didn't they?
56:33
SPEAKER_03: They were like a club band like two years ago.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, they got the right heat.
56:39
SPEAKER_03: They did.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: I gotta say, that new record from them absolutely sucks.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: Man, I was just warming up to that band.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: I really was.
56:50
SPEAKER_03: Because, I mean,
56:51
SPEAKER_03: you know, they obviously, their fans went crazy and got our old YouTube channel.
56:56
SPEAKER_03: We're partially responsible by reporting our channel and whatever.
57:00
SPEAKER_03: And so I should have hate for them, but it isn't the band's fault.
57:03
SPEAKER_03: I did start listening to that band a little bit,
57:05
SPEAKER_03: and I was like, all right, some of these songs are okay.
57:08
SPEAKER_03: This new one is just fucking...
57:11
SPEAKER_03: Reminds me of Tony Basil, Basil, whatever her name was.
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SPEAKER_02: Are they doing a cover of Mickey?
57:17
SPEAKER_01: No, but they have that kind of chick pop rock thing
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SPEAKER_03: that's a little too chick for me.
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SPEAKER_03: Like Katrina and the Waves and shit like that.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, Wretch in the chat room, their fan base is insufferable.
57:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's true.
57:36
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: But again, it's not the band's fault.
57:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
57:39
SPEAKER_03: It's their fans' fault.
57:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're just out there trying to make a living and they found their audience.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: And say all the bad shit you want about their fans.
57:49
SPEAKER_03: That band came up from nothing.
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SPEAKER_03: And now they're tied in with the NFL and, you know, doing all these big gigantic gigs.
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SPEAKER_03: So they're doing something right.
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SPEAKER_03: Probably a lot of things right to get that kind of heat.
58:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, somebody's got a big stick in their camp.
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SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: The warning fans aren't fans of Mr. Regan.
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SPEAKER_03: Probably not, but whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm a fan of that band.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't give a shit about their dumb fans.
58:19
SPEAKER_03: I like the band.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Pretty decent.
58:22
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, go ahead.
58:23
SPEAKER_03: What are we playing?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll jump back into the tunes here via the locals.
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SPEAKER_02: Um...
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SPEAKER_02: If you want to get a request in and you want to know how you can get
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SPEAKER_02: a request played on a Saturday night,
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SPEAKER_02: join us over at our Locals page, classicmetalshow.locals.com.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: Sign up.
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SPEAKER_02: It's $5 a month.
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SPEAKER_02: And as a little bonus,
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SPEAKER_02: I play your songs that you request via the Fast Pass on a Saturday,
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SPEAKER_02: just like the Hardy Boy who wants to hear some Dio from the Sacred Heart release,
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SPEAKER_02: and he'd like to hear Just Another Day.
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SPEAKER_02: So here it is.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the one and only Ronnie James Dio exclusively here on your classic metal show.