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Rev. Jesse Jackson Dies at 84 | Iran - U.S. Talks · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: You're list Saints k I AM six forty the Bill
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Speaker 1: Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio appf I AM
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Speaker 1: six forty Bill Handle Here. Good morning is a rainy
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Speaker 1: Taco Tuesday, February seventeenth, and some of the stories we're
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Speaker 1: looking at. The governmental shutdown still going on this week.
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Speaker 1: Congress is out of session, so we'll see what happens
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Speaker 1: the beginning of next week. Robert Duvall died yesterday at
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Speaker 1: the age of ninety five. Boy, you talk about a
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Speaker 1: life well lived. And Jesse Jackson died at the age
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Speaker 1: of eighty four. Jesse Jackson one of the most controversial
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Speaker 1: figures in American politics as not so much a politician,
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Speaker 1: although certainly what he did went well into the realm
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Speaker 1: of politics, but as a civil rights leader. And there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of baggage that went with Jesse Jackson. First
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Speaker 1: of all, he was a big, imposing man. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was just tall and big and would philip a room.
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Speaker 1: He took a lot of oxygen out of a room,
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Speaker 1: and not in a negative sense. O'Neil interviewed him. I
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Speaker 1: interviewed him. He was he actually had a football scholarship
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Speaker 1: to college and he had a background that was problematic
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Speaker 1: as far as just growing up to be a healthy kid.
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Speaker 1: His mother was sixteen years old when he was born.
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Speaker 1: His father he never had any contact with his mother.
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Speaker 1: Then later on married a guy who shines shoes around
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Speaker 1: the corner and that became a stepdad, and that was
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Speaker 1: stepdad was only marginally involved in his family. Stepdad did
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Speaker 1: adopt him but fourteen years later and he decided he
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Speaker 1: was this is one smart kid. I mean, everybody knew
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Speaker 1: that he was destined for greater things. So he was
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Speaker 1: in college, and this was right after the civil rights
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Speaker 1: movement really started, and he jumped right in with both
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Speaker 1: feet and rose very quickly in whatever he was engaged in.
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Speaker 1: For example, he went to college, became president of the
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Speaker 1: student body, He got into the SLCC or the LC
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Speaker 1: Martin Luther King's organization, and he rose right to the
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Speaker 1: very top of the leadership there. Now, some of the
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Speaker 1: controversial stuff is I think probably the most controversial is
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Speaker 1: what happened on at that motel in Memphis when Martin
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Speaker 1: Luther King was killed and he was there. Jesse Jackson
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Speaker 1: was there on the balcony at the time, and throughout
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Speaker 1: his life he well, he said initially I cradled that
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Speaker 1: Martin Luther's king head in my arms. Not really, he didn't.
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Speaker 1: He took a lot of credit for being sort of
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Speaker 1: the junior Martin Luther King and got a lot of
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Speaker 1: grief from other members of that organization and civil rights organizations.
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Speaker 1: He was a self promoter extraordinarily. He was going to
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Speaker 1: be a lawyer, but he graduated. When he graduated college,
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Speaker 1: he decided to enter the ministry. Never finished the ministry,
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Speaker 1: although later on he was granted a divinity degree, but
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Speaker 1: just never finished the ministry degree. In any case, he
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Speaker 1: became a fixture in the civil rights movement in a big,
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Speaker 1: big way. His influence was extraordinary. He ran for president twice,
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Speaker 1: but more importantly, I don't know how important that was,
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Speaker 1: But more importantly, what he said and his his moniker
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Speaker 1: or his basic philosophy was keep hope alive. And that
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Speaker 1: became a statement that the civil rights organizations used and
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Speaker 1: still used two speeches at the Democratic Now Conventions in
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four nineteen eighty eight. Just galvanizing was extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: In any case, A quick word about the interview that
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Speaker 1: a couple of interviews I had with Jesse Jackson. First
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Speaker 1: of all, let me tell you that was one three
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars suit that he wore. I mean, guy dressed really,
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Speaker 1: really well. And he had the Rainbow Coalition, and he
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Speaker 1: was so influential, and I talked about people who knew
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Speaker 1: him very well. He could make a phone call and
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Speaker 1: he could get the President of the United States on
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Speaker 1: the phone. I mean, no one said no to Jesse
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Speaker 1: Jackson because of his influence. And he could shut down
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Speaker 1: he could start boycott's. He could do virtually anything. So
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Speaker 1: when I had the interview, when I interviewed him, one
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Speaker 1: of the most extraordinary statements I have ever made. We
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Speaker 1: talked about how the problem in the cities and in
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Speaker 1: the inner city in terms of black on black crime,
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Speaker 1: and he he said, one of the big problems is
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Speaker 1: not just racism, but it's blacks committing crimes. And he
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Speaker 1: says something that almost stunned me. And he said, if
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Speaker 1: I am walking down the street at night, I would
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Speaker 1: rather see three white boys walking towards me than three
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Speaker 1: black ones. I am more frightened of three black kids
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Speaker 1: walking down the street than I am of three white kids.
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Speaker 1: And I went wow. From Jesse Jackson, of course, this
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Speaker 1: point was the desperation of the African American community relative
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Speaker 1: to the white community. But that one really flipped me out.
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Speaker 1: And he ended up being ahead of this Rainbow Coalition.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I never quite figured out he was
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Speaker 1: president of it. I don't know where they got their
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Speaker 1: money donations. I'm sure a lot of corporations threw money
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Speaker 1: at Jesse Jackson wanted to get on his good side.
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Speaker 1: But it's the death of a genuine leader and a
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Speaker 1: genuine icon, and he is going to be symbolic of
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Speaker 1: the Civil Rights era. He's at the top of the heat.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Martin Luther King is at the very
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Speaker 1: very top, the Reverend Martin Luther King, and deservedly so.
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Speaker 1: And under there it was Jesse Jackson. All right, let
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Speaker 1: me tell you what else is going on throughout the world.
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Speaker 1: And this is another big one. And this is one
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Speaker 1: of the few times that I agree with the president.
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Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm not a huge fan of President Trump,
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Speaker 1: but there are certain moves that he makes that I go, yep,
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Speaker 1: that one makes a lot of sense, and that happens
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Speaker 1: to this one happens to deal with Iran and the
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Speaker 1: nuclear talks between Iran and the United States. With the
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Speaker 1: United States, I would guess at the leadership of the
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Speaker 1: Western world and dealing with Iran. The mulas in Iran
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Speaker 1: are crazy in the sense that it's not just a
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Speaker 1: dictatorship that wants to keep its views within the country.
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Speaker 1: For example, Kim Jong un is not interested in spreading
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Speaker 1: his view of communism throughout the world or throughout the region.
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Speaker 1: The mulas in Iran are It's a theocracy and they
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Speaker 1: believe that their brand of Islam should go throughout the world,
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Speaker 1: and that's what they do. For example, if they were
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Speaker 1: to invade Saudi Arabia, the first thing they would do
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Speaker 1: is hang every member of the royal family in Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 1: They're the only ones who believe in or believe that
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Speaker 1: they're the only religion or they're the only the true believers.
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Speaker 1: So in any case, Iran also is building up its
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Speaker 1: nuclear capabilities. Israel has done a pretty good job of
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Speaker 1: holding that, halting that over the last few decades, but
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Speaker 1: the Iranians getting closer and closer. They claim their nuclear capabilities.
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Speaker 2: Of course, they're only for peaceful purposes, which is a
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Speaker 2: complete croc and everybody knows that because they're building weapons
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Speaker 2: grade level plutonium, and according to a lot of sources,
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Speaker 2: they have enough to make a I think three or
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Speaker 2: four nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 1: Small nuclear weapons. Well, there aren't many people around the
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Speaker 1: world leaders that are willing to tell Iran tell you what.
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Speaker 1: You either step down or we're going to blow you
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Speaker 1: to bits. Donald Trump is one of them. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump may be the only one short of Israel,
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Speaker 1: and Israel views Iran in a very different kind of
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Speaker 1: light because they truly believe and I think rightly so
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Speaker 1: Iran and that nuclear system of theirs, if they develop it,
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Speaker 1: is an exit that exits that existential threat to Israel.
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Speaker 1: Iran has said it will blow Israel off the map,
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Speaker 1: and with its proxy forces, it supports terrorists all over
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Speaker 1: the world. They're basically crazy, and they're perfectly willing to
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Speaker 1: throw as many people as necessary into the fight. Ten
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Speaker 1: thousand people were just killed in demonstrations. What the President
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Speaker 1: has done is not only threatened Iran and I think
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Speaker 1: threatened to the point where we believe it or they
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Speaker 1: believe it, but also is absolutely killing Iran with the sanctions.
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Speaker 1: Not only not dealing with Iran, but telling governments around
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Speaker 1: the world and companies if you deal with Iran, We're
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Speaker 1: going to feud, terror, fewd death and shut you down.
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Speaker 1: So now the talks are getting pretty serious. The president
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Speaker 1: did something else too. There are now two carrier aircraft
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Speaker 1: carrier task forces task groups in the Mideast. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, when you set an aircraft carrier, it's maybe
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Speaker 1: half a dozen or a dozen ships that go with it.
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Speaker 1: These are massive displays of force. And Trump did something
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Speaker 1: that no other president really had the balls to do,
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Speaker 1: and that's attack Iran literally. And Iran has said if
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Speaker 1: anybody ever attacks us, we will retaliate. If the United
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Speaker 1: States were ever to attack us, we will retaliate, and
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Speaker 1: they will suffer. It will be punitive, and they will
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Speaker 1: rue the day that they ever attacked Iran. And Trump said, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's fine. So he goes ahead and attacks Irun and
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Speaker 1: takes out He claims all of the nuclear capabilities and
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Speaker 1: the facilities. Not true, but he damaged them a lot.
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Speaker 1: But the point is, we're going to attack you back.
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Speaker 1: We're going to retaliate. Crickets crickets. So now the talks
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Speaker 1: are going on and Trump has said, real simple, you
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Speaker 1: don't sit down and give up your nuclear capabilities. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to make it happen. You can do it the
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Speaker 1: hard way, you can do it the easy way. It's
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Speaker 1: all the same to me. I'm taking it out now.
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Speaker 1: The Iranians again are saying, Oh, we're going to retaliate,
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Speaker 1: We're going to go against Israel. We're going to make
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Speaker 1: sure that we're going to attack those countries in the
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Speaker 1: Mid East that have American forces in them, for example, Katar.
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Speaker 1: I think the Fifth Fleet is based out of Qatar
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Speaker 1: is tens of thousands of American forces are on basis
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Speaker 1: in Mid East country, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the Emirates and
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Speaker 1: so Iranians are saying, oh, we will attack, we will retaliate.
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if I'm Iranian, I may say
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Speaker 1: that and it's clearly bluster, but I don't know. Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine if there was an attack on Iran, another
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Speaker 1: attack on nuclear the nuclear facilities, and Iran blew up
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Speaker 1: an American base with Americamerican soldiers, what do you think
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Speaker 1: would happen to Iran? Trump would unload. Iran would be
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Speaker 1: a parking lot, and this president will do it. And
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Speaker 1: I think the Iranians understand that this president will do it.
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Speaker 1: So I think of all the people who could actually
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Speaker 1: make this happen and shut down or certainly delay any
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Speaker 1: movement towards building weapons nuclear weapons. It is the president.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what's happening. You've got Whiteoff, Steve Whitkoff,
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Speaker 1: who's the Middle East envoy, and Jared Kushner who has
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Speaker 1: become a major major player. And Jared Kushner's vast knowledge
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Speaker 1: and also his vast background as President Trump's son in
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Speaker 1: law makes him a real player and he is having
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Speaker 1: tremendous influence in the region. So there is now a
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Speaker 1: build up of US forces in the region, the two
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Speaker 1: aircraft carriers, and up to this point, we'll see what
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Speaker 1: happens with these talks. This president will do it. Okay, Now, Olympians, right,
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Speaker 1: did you notice that most major sports stars they take
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Speaker 1: their awards and I'm thinking Tom Brady and others, and
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Speaker 1: they really show their awards and in many cases have
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Speaker 1: entire rooms built around their awards. Olympians not so much.
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Speaker 1: Olympians actually are more down to earth. And you know
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Speaker 1: where a lot of Olympians keep their gold and silver
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Speaker 1: and bronze medal A surprisingly a number of them keep
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Speaker 1: them in a soft drawer. Why well, because they're not
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Speaker 1: that impressed. I mean, they love it when they go
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Speaker 1: up on that stand on the podium and put their
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Speaker 1: hands over their heart and hear the Star spangled banner. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they they're they're in the moment, but then the medals afterwards. Now,
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Speaker 1: some of them have these cases and they show them
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Speaker 1: in and they're brightly lit, et cetera. But a surprising
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Speaker 1: number just keep them in the drawer, sock drawers, and
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Speaker 1: I can go through the whole list. Alex Hall, a
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Speaker 1: slope style skier, stores his under a pile of socks
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Speaker 1: and underwear. My parents wanted to get a safe, get
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Speaker 1: me a safe for it, but that sounded ridiculous. So
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Speaker 1: it hasn't seen the light of day for a very
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Speaker 1: long time. MICHAELA. Schiffrin three Olympic medal, sock drawer person,
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Speaker 1: Ryan Lochte twelve medals, the second most decorated male swimmer
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Speaker 1: in the history of the Games. That's an ike addresser drawer,
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Speaker 1: and he says, I have some sunglasses in there too.
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Speaker 1: Let's not forget Olympia. Olympians claiming medals in Italy this week.
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Speaker 1: Can hardly imagine them letting them out of their sight.
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Speaker 1: That's this week now one and this is a lot
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Speaker 1: of sportscasters when interviewing this olympians asked that question, where
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Speaker 1: are you going to keep the medal? And one of them,
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Speaker 1: Danny O'Shea figure skater, laughed, goes, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 1: it around my neck as long as possible. Okay, that
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Speaker 1: makes sense. In the meantime, where's it going to go
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Speaker 1: in a drawer? Chris Fote, who won a I think
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Speaker 1: he won a silver in Bob's swedding. Every Olympian's childhood
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Speaker 1: dream was to stand up there and getting that metal
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Speaker 1: hung around their necks. But after that you get older,
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Speaker 1: then you realize it is the journey. And some might
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Speaker 1: keep their medals inside a desk or even among junk,
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Speaker 1: and so it's a lot of things that happen. Also,
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Speaker 1: this happens with medals is at these young athletes as children,
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Speaker 1: because remember keep in mind that Olympic athletes start training
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Speaker 1: and getting in their sport in utero. For the most part,
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Speaker 1: they're pretty young, and they were inspired by medal winners.
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Speaker 1: And so a lot of these Olympians donate their medals
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Speaker 1: to the facility where they trained at, or to schools
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Speaker 1: or they take it around when they're doing motivational talks
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Speaker 1: to kids for free and let them play with it
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Speaker 1: and let them hold it. And this is what an
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Speaker 1: Olympic medal looks like and what it feels like. They're
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Speaker 1: pretty heavy, made out of metal. It's an Olympic It
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Speaker 1: made out of metal. And Olympic medal. They used to
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Speaker 1: be gold, right, like the only time it was pure
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Speaker 1: gold in nineteen twelve Olympics. That was the last time
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Speaker 1: it was pure gold. Not anymore clearly, can you imagine
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Speaker 1: it's right? Yeah, Now it's a coding. Yeah. Now, it's
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Speaker 1: just a coding on wrought iron, so you can make
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Speaker 1: a fence out of it. Also, it's a hole panoply,
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Speaker 1: it's a yeah, what do they call it? Just a
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Speaker 1: group of medals that are stamped together to make it happen.
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Speaker 1: In any case, you've see the medals I have or
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Speaker 1: the awards I have, And I'll tell you I'm one
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Speaker 1: of those people that put them up, and I point
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Speaker 1: them out when people come to my house if they
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Speaker 1: ever would, and I have them in my home studio
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Speaker 1: and I only keep up three. That's the only ones.
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Speaker 1: One of the things about being behind the mic here
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Speaker 1: is a little inside baseball. If you're behind the mic
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Speaker 1: in a major market, you get more awards than you
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Speaker 1: could ever imagine. And they're all complete bs. Now, there
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Speaker 1: are three that I'm very proud of that I think
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Speaker 1: are legitimate that I keep on a shelf in my studio.
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Speaker 1: One is the Marconi, the other one is the Star
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Speaker 1: on the Walk of Fame, and the other one is
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Speaker 1: Radio Hall of Fame. Those three are on my desk.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you ever come to my
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Speaker 1: house and I invite you in to look at the awards,
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Speaker 1: if you get near them, I'm taking a fork and
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Speaker 1: I'm jamming it into your eyeballs. No one gets near
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Speaker 1: those awards. Okay, do I sound pompous enough, Yes, sir,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much. I so appreciate it because you
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Speaker 1: won't say anything nice about me, so I have to
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Speaker 1: say it. Bill, you're a hell of a broadcaster. I
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Speaker 1: say this every morning in front of the mirror. Hey,
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Speaker 1: you are good, And I point my finger and I
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Speaker 1: finger and I jabbed the mirror. Okay, we're done. Okay. Now,
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Speaker 1: there is a poll that just came out by the
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Speaker 1: uc San Diego Center for Transparent and Trusted elections. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: it's one sided in the sense that nobody trusts elections,
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Speaker 1: and it's broken down mainly by party, and it's broken
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Speaker 1: down as to who wins in this case Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: That's the worst digression of confidence in our election process.
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Speaker 1: When the president loses and where he loses, that's a
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Speaker 1: rigged election, of course, and the Republicans for the most
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Speaker 1: part believe it. That's a rigged election. Democrats for the
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Speaker 1: most part say no, but they still think there is
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Speaker 1: a fear of rigged elections. And here is the difference,
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Speaker 1: and that is the Republican Party led or the MAGA supporters,
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Speaker 1: not everybody in the Republican Party, led by the president,
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Speaker 1: of course, believes that fundamentally the elections are rigged against
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Speaker 1: him and Republicans that the very elections are rigged, which
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Speaker 1: by the way, there's no evidence whatsoever that they are,
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Speaker 1: even to the point where the last go round. This
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Speaker 1: will be number four in Georgia, in Fulton County, they
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Speaker 1: grabbed all of the ballot, the allegation that it was rigged.
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Speaker 1: They only went through the election two counts, recounts and
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Speaker 1: going through every ballot by hand, and there was no
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Speaker 1: election fraud it doesn't matter. It was the president loss
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Speaker 1: Fulton County and therefore it was rigged. So the fundamental
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Speaker 1: part of the election process itself is rigged if a
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Speaker 1: Republican loses. What the Democrats are saying is they feared
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Speaker 1: that the government is going to come in and change
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Speaker 1: the election. For example, Ice showing up, governmental forces showing
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Speaker 1: up at polling places, and the push to make people
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Speaker 1: show their ID, which is a massive push that's going
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Speaker 1: on by the President and Republicans. You have to show
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Speaker 1: your ID, you have to prove you are a citizen.
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Speaker 1: You have to show your passport or your birth certificate.
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Speaker 1: Now I don't have a problem with proving that you're
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Speaker 1: a citizen. I mean, right now, the law says, and
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Speaker 1: it has been forever, you have to be a citizen
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Speaker 1: to vote. But you don't have to prove you're a
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Speaker 1: citizen to vote. Then why even bother with a law
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Speaker 1: that says you have to be a citizen to vote.
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Speaker 1: Now the reality is as though no one has to
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Speaker 1: prove they're a citizen. As a matter of fact, they
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Speaker 1: won't take the proof when I go to vote. The
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Speaker 1: last few times I whipped out my driver's license or
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Speaker 1: I brought my passport. I go, Hey, I'm a citizen.
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Speaker 1: We don't want to see it. I go, but I
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Speaker 1: want to show it to you. We don't want to
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Speaker 1: see it. And so it's really weird. And because you
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Speaker 1: don't have to show it. The allegation that Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: and ilk are saying is that there is widespread photo fraud,
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Speaker 1: illegal aliens are voting in mass and there is no
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Speaker 1: evidence of that. Hey, Bill, was there ever a time
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Speaker 1: in the United States where you had to show ID
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Speaker 1: to vote? I don't know. I don't know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that. I would think none curious changed. I would
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Speaker 1: think not, because I'm a vague recollection that there would changed.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the courts were the one were
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Speaker 1: the one. The court was the one that said you
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Speaker 1: don't have to show ID to vote. And and really, realistically,
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Speaker 1: who keeps the copy of their birth certificate? How many
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Speaker 1: people have a copy of their birth certificate?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Ay, I have a copy? I do I have the original?
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Speaker 1: Oh I have I have a copy of it. But
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Speaker 1: that's only because I'm making application to become a Polish citizen.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna Polish consider you a Polish citizen. Yeah, Pollock
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Speaker 1: jokes you know how many how many pollocks is to
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Speaker 1: take to screw in the light bulb. But I really want
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Speaker 1: to be a butt at the bite of those jokes.
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Speaker 1: But I'm going and I am a citizen in Brazil.
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Speaker 1: I'll have three passports, but I happen to have my
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Speaker 1: birth certificate because I need it. But I don't carry
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Speaker 1: my passport around. And do you carry your ID or
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Speaker 1: I guess you do. I guess if the law changes
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Speaker 1: and the President Republicans have their way, you would have
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Speaker 1: to have a passport or you will have to have
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Speaker 1: a birth certificate with you on you. What about just
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Speaker 1: a driver's license that doesn't show citizenship. You can actually
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Speaker 1: be illegal and get a driver's license, or it used
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Speaker 1: to be. I don't know what the DMV now demands,
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Speaker 1: but I think you can still get a driver's license
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Speaker 1: if one is of the illegal alien ship. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: think we're done. We all think that the bottom line
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Speaker 1: is a lot of us think that the elections are
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Speaker 1: just all screwed up. At the lowest, we're at the
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Speaker 1: lowest level of belief that elections are not that elections
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Speaker 1: are not fraudulent, the lowest that we've ever had since
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