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Calamity Hatcher | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #123 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian we
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  podcast, but it's not just any episode.
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  It's the fifth appearance of my good long-term friend, mr.
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  Jack Hatcher. AKA Calamity Hatcher online.
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  This is also episode 1, 2 3. So that's fun.
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  But yeah, II. Painstakingly went back to find
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  out which episodes you appeared on to appeared on episode 4
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  episode 18 episode 19. Right around the time basically.
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  Just before I started doing video podcasts and immediately.
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  When I said I was doing that, you were like let's do it and
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  we'd literally just had you on the podcast and I was like cool.
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  Alright, fuck it. So that's this back-to-back
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  episodes. Just got funny and then, that's
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  good. Yeah.
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  And the last time was episode 74 and you know I mean for those
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  who don't know me and Jack went to school together.
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  So we know each other a bit more than any of them.
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  Avec, I think. Let me think there's a few
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  people. I've met online that are part of
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  my community that been on the podcast but you're the only
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  person. Yeah.
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  You're the only person that's been on the podcast that I know
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  in real life. So that's cool.
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  So the Alana yeah man and oh, my God, I mean obviously I follow,
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  you know, what you do online sort of from afar that you know
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  how it is. When you're really busy doing
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  this stuff, like you don't really get the time to like look
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  at each other stuff. Like I'm sure you don't get the
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  timetable. My starts, it's like a glance
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  like, oh cool. They're doing that.
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  And this is a real Guru Rhythm gives you on the on the
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  particular time you're scrolling.
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  Those are the bitchy sea of people.
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  But outside of that you don't really have much opportunity to
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  go through and like, oh I'm going to check what this
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  person's posted this week and you well yeah, no, not even that
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  just like actually just sitting down and looking at someone's
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  content, you know what I mean? Like, I fully accept especially
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  other creators like you just, you don't get the time to do
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  that stuff by exactly. There's, there's a lot that's
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  happened. Since OKC episode 74.
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  When was that sometime towards the end of last year?
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  No. Was it last year earlier this
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  year? It's been a while.
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  These are all either or yeah. Okay.
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  Yeah. Well, a lot of things have
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  happened up. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Whatever it was.
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  Gosh, I don't even know what to jump straight into it.
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  This point. That's okay, before we get into
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  that the really, really exciting stuff.
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  Let's talk about this shift in your content.
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  So for those who don't know, Jack does I guess if you're
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  going to sum it up video game content online with streaming
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  heavily into, you know, obviously Sonic and we've
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  detailed that Sonic the Hedgehog Your Love of that since
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  childhood all the way up to now also Your Love of All Things,
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  Marvel Spiderman stuff like that but basically to put that in a
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  context for people understand, as far as the sort of content
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  that Jack Bauer's on line. It's basically like live
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  streaming with his community that he's built up.
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  He does a lot of streaming On the Super Smash Bros leagues on
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  YouTube. I think a couple of times you've
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  actually been number one in the world for that.
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  So that's amazing. Achievement was mad.
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  But yeah, but there's been a recent shift and you sort of
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  detailed why on social media, but I just wanted to explore
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  that. I mean, I know the reasons.
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  It seems kind of obvious why you want to do this.
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  But in your own words, why have you sort of was prompted to
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  shift in your content where you're not sort of?
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  Walking away from that. But you're now you're creating
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  other sorts of content. I want wider them.
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  So, you know, for the longest time, I have covered Sonic, the
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  Hedgehog, and I have covered every facet of the franchise
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  leaks predominantly because those are the videos that get
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  you views at the end of the day, and I no longer legally can talk
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  about leaks. Oh, I do too.
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  Contracts that I have signed, see this.
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  I didn't know. I mean, I dunno, I dunno what
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  you're talking about, but I didn't know it was connected to
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  this. That's interesting.
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  Not a non-disclosure agreements. Interesting course.
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  Yeah. Because if you if you because
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  you have knowledge that insider trading and they like, you know,
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  yeah. Oh wow.
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  So even if you know, I see a leak and I see it to be
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  completely false, even if I know nothing about the particular
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  thing and that does often Turn out to be the case to be
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  completely honest with you, just by covering it, I could
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  jeopardize everything. So even if it's, you know, I
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  have no knowledge of it'll ever. So yeah, we've kind of had to
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  move away from that now and I've found a real passion in doing
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  video essays and doing voice acting recently.
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  Yeah, so I've been doing a lot of primarily YouTube shorts
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  based around. Dubbing Sonic scenes, Sonic
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  cutscenes and adding my voice to the characters and that kind of
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  thing and that's been a lot of fun and then I've been working
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  on the video essay type things you know because I think it's
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  the main thing I watch on YouTube.
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  Hmm. Yes.
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  I love a good 20 minute nerdy video essay.
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  You know why this Spider-Man film is amazing or terrible or
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  what the DCU needs to focus on to rival the Mt.
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  I don't care what it is. I love getting into that, so I'm
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  trying to move more into that. That form of content, those
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  videos again, do particularly well at times some of them do
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  atrociously, but then obviously really well.
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  And, you know, the ones that do really well, you think.
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  Okay, that's the motivation for the next one.
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  Let's talk about something else that I'm very passionate about
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  and want to ramble on about 20 minutes.
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  So I totally get that dude, you should always move with the sort
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  of content that you're into that you enjoy doing the most and
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  He's one of the reasons why I diversify and do a lot of
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  different types of content. Some of that is, in reaction to
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  things that work. Other things, it's just stuff I
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  want to do, you know, I get that.
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  You know, it's not all about getting views, but what I will
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  say with that because I've had this, this comment come up a few
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  times in my live streams lately, when people like stop focusing
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  on views and I know why you're telling me that and I appreciate
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  it, but the reality is, if you're a content creator, it's
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  impossible. At some level to not think about
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  views because it's how you measure your performance over
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  time. It's how you measure sentiment
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  as far as what your audience is into, it can it can help you to
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  make decisions. For example, instead of
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  focusing, all your efforts, on one particular content type of
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  content, you diversify or maybe you set up a separate platform.
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  You know, I've done this in some instances where you can only
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  find say the podcast and one platform and Another acting in
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  another but like, you know, I mean, it separate.
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  So as to not annoy the existing audience and that's something
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  interesting about what you're doing.
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  Like, how come you've chose to keep it all on one channel as
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  opposed to not? Is it?
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  Because it's about those things? So it's relevant or it's just
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  quickly say about your earlier point.
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  I want to shatter the Illusion for anyone that is watching
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  online content, every single Creator on the Internet is doing
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  it for views. He's there is no point saying to
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  them. Oh don't worry about the views
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  because nobody is picking out their stuff online but nobody to
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  watch it as absolutely. You have no idea the amount of
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  effort and time that goes into creating these pieces of content
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  that we put up that we don't want that for nothing.
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  Hmm. You know you want people to see
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  that. So yeah.
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  That on that point. I will just activated by the
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  way. Yeah.
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  The people that serve them, you know who they are.
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  They're awesome people. They It more, in the sense, we
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  don't Focus only on that because it make you sad and my point was
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  I get where you're coming from, and I do agree.
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  You should make content, first and foremost, because you enjoy
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  doing it. If you stop enjoying doing it,
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  don't do it but of course, but at the same time, you're 100%
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  right. Like you.
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  Yeah, you want people to look at it.
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  That's why you do it. Exactly.
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  Exactly. And on your point of the, of the
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  channel, I mean, I've opened this up to my community quite a
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  lot with YouTube. Bowls and things like that.
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  And the first, real instance, for I saw there being a split
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  potentially was with the Calamity, quickies.
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  I don't know if you've actually watched any of the Calamity,
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  quickies. It's basically a new segment.
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  I kind of view it as the Calamity Hatcher, keemstar
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  segment of the channel, but I focus a bit more on the nerdy
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  news and that's in that side of things.
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  But it is generally, I Do cover, YouTube drama and things of that
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  nature purely. Because again, something I was
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  watching a lot of and I do still watch drama alert whenever Comes
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  out. I enjoy that kind of content and
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  I have opinions on these things and I would talk about it.
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  So you know, I put out there with that and I said to people,
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  do you think the Calamity quickie should be its own
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  channel? You know to because it's very
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  diverse from the Sonic content, I do try and drop a bit of Sonic
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  news in there if I can but generally it is quite diverse
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  from it and overwhelmingly, the response was no, keep it
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  together and then I've had that on other things in terms of like
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  Marvel and comic book culture. I've asked, you know do you guys
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  You want me to separate that have a different channel.
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  So this is just for the Sonic people and the other guys can go
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  and view ever. They want and again the response
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  has unanimously. No, keep it on one channel.
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  And that's the weird thing because you know, these videos
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  don't do certain types of videos don't do as well on the channel.
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  But I think it's also becoming My brand is just that blend like
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  for instance as a YouTuber I watch called Channel pup than if
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  he's if he's maybe watching this, love the guy awesome
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  YouTuber and he is a Sonic Spider-Man YouTuber, you know
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  they are different topics but that is his branding and you
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  know, both sides of his videos to just as well in that regard.
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  So I think yeah I think it's just become a bit of my brand
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  now that like this is where you go for your son.
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  Snooze but also find out what tanomo Joe did this week or, you
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  know, that's that's just some Sonic voice acting dubs and oh
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  there's a new Spider-Man video out, you know, just it's still
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  fitting within that playground of like gaming a nerd culture, I
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  feel so I think it's just becoming that brand I guess I
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  but I don't know. Again, as the channel keeps
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  growing, it's something I'm going to keep putting out
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  feelers for keep asking the community because at the end of
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  the day, there's no point making a decision, if your community
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  isn't behind it. Because well that can't be, of
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  course. But you know, like in the terms
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  of creating content that people want to see and where they can
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  view that content, I always feel it's better to listen to my
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  community and see what they say about it.
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  Really. How many times a week right now
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  on? Average are you posted, would
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  you say? I'm very inconsistent.
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  I have fallen off the wagon in that regards.
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  Yeah, there's some weeks I'll go with that.
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  Pasting go two weeks without posting and then I might have a
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  week where I do three videos and five streams and like it's just
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  it's random. And like for instance, last week
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  I didn't really have a lot of content out.
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  I don't think I put any content out last week if I did, I
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  apologize for that video. I didn't mean to scare you but
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  then this week, you know Monday I hear the Sonic 2 movie trailer
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  is dropping then Tuesday. I find out that the there's a
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  new gamer Well then I've heard those videos, one of them got
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  1,000 views before I went to sleep.
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  Oh, the had I was okay. And you know Thursday, we had
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  the game awards where we got two big Sonic announcements so not
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  only did I live stream that up till 3:00 a.m. in the morning
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  saying that I've been given to cut the bits from the stream up.
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  Yeah, those reactions. I've now done an Easter egg
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  video, covering everything I found in the Sonic movie
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  trailer. I'm going to have another one.
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  One coming up today tomorrow for Sonic Frontiers, there are
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  moments, you know things get busy.
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  You have content to create as a Sonic tubers.
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  It can be quite dry at times. There's not a lot to talk about.
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  So you know this has been an instance where things have got
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  really busy but you have dry weeks, you have slow weeks.
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  I think this week in particular has really reminded me why I do
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  what I do with the YouTube because you know, the stream is
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  and everything I just Such a blast this week making content
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  again. And I think it's it's kind of a
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  thing of, you know, when you shift in and out of making it
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  over the course of weeks, I sometimes you just mentally
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  trait, sometimes you just can't do it.
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  And then you have weeks like this where you put yourself out
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  and you make a lot of content and you just love it so much.
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  It's like an old shoe just fits and it makes you want to run
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  with it. I know exactly what you mean
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  like exactly what you mean because I got to a point where I
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  stopped. I stopped worrying so much about
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  the views and reaching a bunch of people.
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  And I tried to think about, Okay, I've got these people hear
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  these, let's say figures about 15 people in total, 15, maybe 20
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  who always at least come to some of the streams.
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  If not all of them who always listen to the podcast to always
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  check out the shorts and stuff like idea Etc.
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  And I started thinking more about, I should focus on making
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  content for them and making them happy as well as myself rather
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  than trying to just reach. New people that it's great to
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  reach new people, but it's like, you know, every time you do a
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  livestream, you're essentially advertising marketing, you know,
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  I mean like you're interacting with the people that are always
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  there but you're also it's one big adverts like hey you should
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  join me, you know, you can't, you can't.
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  You know what your own coming from on this?
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  You cut. Ya can't be switched off, you
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  can't, you got to be on the whole time.
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  Same with the same of the podcast.
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  I mean, I would never dream of being lazy here, but you know,
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  same amount of research Search and effort goes into every
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  single episode and it yeah, it can get monotonous but it's like
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  you said, it's sometimes it gets it feels a bit like that and
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  then the next week or I don't know maybe I just have a really
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  good episode or whatever something we'll just reignite
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  that fire and as you say it gets better and for me it's
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  interesting because I'm making long form and short form
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  content. So the podcast is a bit
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  different. I don't ever expect it to get a
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  lot of views. But once in a while, I might
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  pick up some new people, but generally, it's discordance
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  always listening and watching same with the live stream, but
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  we have picked up some new people here and there, but with
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  the shorts, it's totally totally different ball game.
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  Oh, yeah. I've seen your Tick-Tock that's
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  relations, sir. Thank you.
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  But, you know, the funny thing about that is I thought it was
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  popping up that I thought I was, you know, I felt it was like
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  when you got your first 1K on YouTube later, this is it, that
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  everything is going to change and then nothing changed Life
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  Changes. That's all I mean, I think that
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  was the biggest thing that that hit me.
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  I actually distinctly remember it, because I came off stream
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  after I hit 1K and my good friend.
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  Nathan called me crude cartoons. Who you may know, who did the
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  awesome stream intro, for my streams is incredible.
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  He called me. He's like, bro.
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  You It. That's it, that's it.
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  It's just, I've always liked, it's just hit me.
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  That, that was, that was nothing.
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  That's, that's the first hurdle that what happens from here is
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  constant work. That is the only way this keeps
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  growing like it. You, you have this idea in your
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  head that once you hit that particular Milestone, like the
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  city made it. Yeah.
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  No, you can't take your foot off the pedal at all.
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  You're still going to be grinding.
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  You're still going to put content out there.
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  Nobody watches. It's like you're going to put
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  out content that people do watch, you know?
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  It's it's a battle. It's always a battle.
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  This leads me on to my next thing.
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  I was going to ask you and don't worry, we'll get to those
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  exciting projects that. Yeah, exactly, like the Jack's
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  working on. I just want to say that for a
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  second because it's the flow of things.
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  And, you know, me, I like to make it more conversational,
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  what you're talking about, there it gets me because one of my key
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  goals I achieved every other YouTuber goal For this year
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  except for one, which was to get 1,000 on my main Channel.
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  Okay, I've got just shy of like 800 or 800, something like that,
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  which is great. Don't get me wrong, but it's not
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  what I wanted. And obviously, I am very glad
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  about it, but then here's the weird thing.
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  As, you know, Tick-Tock kind of blew off and then my YouTube
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  shorts page as well, which is random started.
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  Getting a lot of views, okay? And the interesting thing about
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  that, and I've mentioned this in the podcast before, For it.
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  Initially when I set it up loads of views and then there was just
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  this drought season where does nothing the ages?
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  Like maybe six months and then suddenly boom views again and
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  followers again. And and basically my point with
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  this is that I no matter what kind of goals you set yourself,
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  or how you think the use going to turn out, it's always very
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  different from what, how you envision 100%?
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  I mean, last time I was with you, I said that I would hit TK
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  Subs by the end of this year. Mon just over 1.5 K, that's not
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  going to happen. Unless I go magically like viral
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  or Soto 1.5. Yeah, I'm doing, I'm not
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  complaining at all. Why I overshot with the
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  estimation but 1.5 is amazing and sincere.
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  Thank you to everyone of you they subscribed.
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  But I think I set myself an unrealistic goal in the sense
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  that with the, I was forgetting that I had covid last year.
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  I know it sounds weird, but I was followed from work.
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  And so I had a whole year of being able to stream everyday,
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  make non-stop content. And you know, I've gone back to
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  work this year and worked my ass off since January.
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  And you know, when I come home do I have the motivation to
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  stream everyday? Of course not.
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  You know sometimes it is difficult to get a video out in
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  a week. It's just, you know, things
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  things change, the circumstances have changed and in terms of the
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  shorts as well. What you were saying about the
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  shorts? I think it's interesting that
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  once shorts became a bit more recognizable after like the boom
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  of tick-tock and people are, oh my God.
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  Have you heard about YouTube shorts?
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  People got a big boost in views. Yeah.
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  Then it died down again because the trend kind of went down now.
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  I think we're going into a trading with it again, where
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  people are. Oh yeah, YouTube shorts.
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  I have forgot about that. Oh yeah, let's get back on that.
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  And more and more people are going on to it as an alternative
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  to ticked up because they scroll through their Tick-Tock found
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  everything. Now they're going to it's to try
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  and find some content. I'm gonna shit on Tick-Tock for
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  a little bit, so, there it is. Okay, now the reason why I'm
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  going to do this is for two reasons, one, because they
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  deserve it, sort out your bloody up.
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  Secondly, I'll get to why. I just want to go on a bit of a
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  rant, right? So Instagram is, we all know
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  that Instagram is trying to be Tick-Tock right there.
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  That's what the trendy that's that's what reels is, reels is
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  basically, they're trying to do Tick-Tock and no one really
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  cares about reels. Like, reels get views.
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  Don't get me wrong, but it's like It is the other, maybe it's
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  something to do with the the app like the the UI or something.
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  There's just something off their that, it's not easy, accessible
• 19:51
  on the app. And I feel like only people who
• 19:53
  are like Diehard Instagram. And I use Instagram users
• 19:57
  newsreels because Plessy, that's that things are going to other
• 20:00
  platforms. I think the people that are
• 20:02
  DieHard, Instagram users probably don't really use, I
• 20:06
  mean, maybe I'm wrong on this, but like, you remember like,
• 20:08
  what principally what Instagram is for is to, you know, Sort of
• 20:13
  broadcast yourself as far as like images is concerned and
• 20:16
  maybe videos. Yeah, it's an image Focus.
• 20:18
  Tap it's about, you know, like this is my life.
• 20:21
  This is what I do or to promote a business or a brand or some
• 20:24
  shit like that. This real thing, it don't get me
• 20:28
  wrong it's huge the numbers are there.
• 20:29
  Like I'm not saying it's not big or anything.
• 20:31
  I'm just saying that your average Instagram user they
• 20:34
  probably have like a small interest in reels but they're
• 20:37
  not like addicted to it. Like how if you're using
• 20:41
  tick-tock? You are probably addicted to the
• 20:43
  a plan, and that's not a bad thing, you know, I mean, I'm
• 20:45
  addicted to it, too, but it's like, it's different.
• 20:48
  Because when you were committed Creator, trying to grow a brand,
• 20:51
  that's very different from someone just mucking around
• 20:54
  having a laugh. It's different different folks.
• 20:57
  Different of course, yeah. But the interesting thing is
• 20:59
  that while Instagram is trying to match everything that tick
• 21:04
  tocks doing like now you can reply to comments with videos.
• 21:07
  That's a big feature. I noticed the other day.
• 21:09
  Yeah and I think too. An extent shorts is trying to do
• 21:13
  a similar thing. I don't know necessarily that
• 21:17
  they'll go to full hog and completely copy to talk but they
• 21:20
  that's basically why it exists. It is a gap in the market.
• 21:24
  It's why it's not Gap in the muck.
• 21:25
  It's it's a new type of I can't even say it's new really.
• 21:32
  Here's what I don't know what never work, right?
• 21:35
  This will never work for shorts and telling you this if they
• 21:38
  copy took taught you in it, while this is why they can never
• 21:41
  copy Tick Tock, which is why this will never be the same kind
• 21:44
  of rival. Tick-Tock.
• 21:46
  One of the main things of it is copyrighted music.
• 21:51
  People dance, it like songs, go viral on Tick-Tock and people do
• 21:55
  their dance, things to more than lip-syncs or whatever.
• 21:58
  And that's how its run. YouTube, the algorithm will not
• 22:01
  allow that you are not going to be able to monetize those.
• 22:04
  Therefore people are not uploading that kind of content
• 22:07
  to YouTube shorts. I will say though because my
• 22:14
  YouTube shorts account is probably going to get to a K1 K
• 22:17
  or more probably in the next year or so now and that's what
• 22:20
  we are. That's that's not me flexing.
• 22:22
  I'm just saying it's growing quickly.
• 22:24
  If it continues the way it continues, it it probably will
• 22:26
  happen. And I thought about this, I
• 22:28
  thought about the concept of maybe getting monetized, but
• 22:31
  I've seen the very top creators that have shorts accounts and
• 22:35
  they just laugh, but they show you how much they earn and it's
• 22:37
  there's not a joke because what Forget is that the videos are
• 22:40
  less than a minute. So how much are you really going
• 22:44
  to let you get like Hundreds of millions of users and even then
• 22:48
  you'll probably get peanuts. So even if your goal is to get
• 22:53
  big free short, I don't think that you're going to like, make
• 22:56
  like, it's not really something to make money with really it's
• 22:59
  no nay go a following, yeah, complement other content.
• 23:03
  Yeah, it needs to be like, for instance, so my advice would be
• 23:07
  say you're a streamer, and you're playing, I don't know,
• 23:11
  Call of Duty. Will say, do your strings have
• 23:16
  Just ask what your view is go. That's where your ad revenue is.
• 23:19
  That's where your make your money from viewers on that.
• 23:22
  Your shorts, your kill, the you do an awesome kill that.
• 23:27
  You did a minute clip of that string upload like five of
• 23:31
  those. Over the course of the week
• 23:33
  before your stream, do your string.
• 23:35
  Because the viewers from make sure people can obviously
• 23:37
  clearly identify from that short where to go through the stream
• 23:41
  and it's just symbiotic, marketing know, they just it.
• 23:46
  Works perfectly together, but if you're going to rely on shorts
• 23:49
  to, you know, fund your lifestyle and get it, I'm sorry
• 23:56
  guys, YouTube, don't pay that any more on normal videos, let
• 24:00
  that kind of stuff. Like there's no Logan and Jake
• 24:03
  pools being created from today's YouTube.
• 24:05
  Monetary system that point that you made is stellar.
• 24:08
  And I'll be honest, I never considered that.
• 24:10
  I've seen that. Obviously many of my shorts get
• 24:12
  copyright claimed so it happens on Instagram.
• 24:16
  Fuck. Got retrospect retroactive one
• 24:18
  where they claim something and block the video from like a year
• 24:23
  and a half ago, or something. I'm not.
• 24:24
  Why do you care like this video? Didn't even get like, 50 views
• 24:27
  that why'd you put wherever the yeah, no, you're right.
• 24:31
  You're right. That's 100% why I think it's and
• 24:33
  they can't do it even if they wanted to do that.
• 24:35
  And they would have to change so much that it wouldn't be worth
• 24:38
  it. So, yeah, totally agree.
• 24:41
  You heard about the state of the copyright landscape recently in
• 24:44
  YouTube. Yeah.
• 24:46
  Yeah, I just assume it's eternally shit, but I haven't
• 24:50
  heard any news. Well, this, so I'll give, I'll
• 24:52
  give you a balmy. Quickie story, rules are broken
• 24:56
  down quickly, and so, there was a YouTuber, I forget his name.
• 25:00
  Now, relatively relatively decent sized YouTuber.
• 25:04
  I don't think it's got million subs or anything like that, but
• 25:07
  and he would say something Mark. Mark, is in the name, somewhere
• 25:12
  Mark? No, no.
• 25:13
  Wasn't Markiplier. It might be like a guy called.
• 25:16
  Of course something like that. It's just very thing.
• 25:18
  He name and he reveal Homer. Oh hi Mark.
• 25:22
  Yeah he refused out of me. He's okay.
• 25:25
  Absolutely loves Dragonball one piece stuff like that and the
• 25:29
  company the parent company. Terry animation recently came
• 25:33
  through and overnight took down 150 of his videos via manual,
• 25:38
  playing blocked them online. They have reviews of anime in
• 25:44
  fair, use terms and And he has to go to a lawsuit over it
• 25:49
  because to actually dispute all 150.
• 25:55
  Someone figured out like it's not possible in his lifetime
• 25:58
  with the way YouTube disputes work.
• 25:59
  And the fact you can only have one open at a time.
• 26:02
  They take 30 days to be resolved.
• 26:05
  Well, like, it's just ridiculous.
• 26:07
  And so funny thing is the horrible movies are on YouTube
• 26:11
  to watch but you can't watch his reviews of Dragon Ball so, but
• 26:15
  the, the issue, You not just to break it down in simplistic.
• 26:18
  Terms is basically because he's used clips and they're like you
• 26:21
  can't just Eclipse. Yeah.
• 26:23
  I like this is our content. It's not transformative to
• 26:26
  review. Of course, it's transformative.
• 26:28
  I mean you could okay I'm not agreeing with this because I
• 26:30
  think it's bullshit but I mean maybe he and other reviewers
• 26:34
  should not include clips and YouTube should be like really
• 26:38
  you know straightforward about it like you can't vote, you
• 26:40
  can't have Clips kind of thing and then they get that.
• 26:43
  But then I do understand that point of view, but Like as final
• 26:47
  he's done reviews before and like in my most recent
• 26:50
  Spider-Man video, right? My Spider-Man to review, its put
• 26:53
  a border over it and I'm dancing anime, girl, GIF, that was that
• 26:58
  I reduce the opacity on because Sony would absolutely kill me.
• 27:03
  But how do I talk about the moment that Peter and Doc Ock
• 27:10
  fight on that train without showing just some of that
• 27:15
  footage? Not Things because I work in a
• 27:17
  very simple system of three seconds cut.
• 27:21
  Even if you're going to show more footage, you jump forward,
• 27:24
  a few seconds and then started from this, you keeping the face
• 27:28
  turns. How am I properly going to
• 27:30
  explain the emotion, when New York gives Peter back his mask?
• 27:35
  And says, we won't tell anybody without showing just a bit of
• 27:39
  that scene, you can reenact it. So I could have done that.
• 27:42
  Actually, yeah, that I'd actually prefer to watch that
• 27:45
  first. Ask it something.
• 27:48
  Yeah. Like I was working on an Arcane
• 27:54
  video, which I've got Bo. So don't think he's going to
• 27:56
  come out now because I tried recording like twice and had
• 27:59
  issues, you know, when you get to that point, we just like, you
• 28:01
  know what the moments gone. But like, when I was doing
• 28:05
  working on that, I can't talk about how beautiful and
• 28:11
  breathtaking the animation is without just showing a little
• 28:15
  bit of that animation. Is me sitting in this then in,
• 28:19
  you know, in this lighting doesn't really reflect what I'm
• 28:23
  talking about, unless I can show part of that.
• 28:26
  And I don't think it's an issue because you're not.
• 28:29
  Nobody is going to that content. Hmm, and saying, well, I've I've
• 28:34
  seen the Clips in his review. So why would I need to watch the
• 28:37
  movie - thinking that, like, if anything, you're going to watch
• 28:41
  it. Be like, you know what, either I
• 28:43
  haven't seen that and I'm going to give it a go.
• 28:45
  It's been a A while since I've seen that, you know what?
• 28:47
  Yeah, let's let's get the DVD out.
• 28:50
  Let's go. Well, I was just so now I
• 28:52
  completely agree with you. I'm just playing Devil's
• 28:55
  Advocate. I reckon the way up the way that
• 28:57
  they think is all. Well, you know, you can just not
• 29:00
  use the clips or you know it's copyright.
• 29:03
  You can't do that, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah, and
• 29:05
  it's that. But you're right like to every
• 29:09
  review you've probably ever seen.
• 29:10
  That's actually worth watching aside from there are reviews
• 29:13
  without clips and stuff, but it's always.
• 29:16
  When you have the clips you just add something like I just wish I
• 29:21
  could say to these companies like.
• 29:24
  Okay. So I have an 3 pounds from this
• 29:31
  and there is a high chance that 50% of the people that have
• 29:36
  watched this video have walked away with the thought all add
• 29:41
  SHINee. You know what, I'm going to give
• 29:42
  that watch. So you have paid me essentially,
• 29:45
  three pound to use your content but I'm not claiming me and you
• 29:49
  have and, you know, I well I don't really know with streaming
• 29:53
  services and whatnot. On both, the content is on
• 29:55
  there, you have More than doubled your money.
• 29:58
  I would say at least, in terms of you know, whether it be
• 30:01
  subscriptions or whether people go and buy on Amazon Prime,
• 30:04
  whatever it's stupid to attack the Creator that is promoting
• 30:09
  your brand. You are not paying them anything
• 30:12
  to do that. They are using their time and
• 30:15
  their energy to promote your products.
• 30:18
  The people that are paying for it or a third-party, our Google,
• 30:23
  with their advertisements, you are basically getting away,
• 30:25
  you're not paying anything. They're promoting your brand,
• 30:28
  the copyright claim is pointless.
• 30:32
  The very small amount of money. You will take away from a small
• 30:35
  YouTuber or a bigger YouTuber. You know, saying take like a
• 30:38
  hundred pounds from YouTuber. That's for that money to be
• 30:44
  accumulated by Google and give into that.
• 30:46
  Crater the amount of views that must have.
• 30:50
  What are you doing? You are much better, just
• 30:53
  letting the, the promotion go out, then making a hundred quid
• 30:57
  off it because you will make more from that that free
• 30:59
  promotion essentially. And they just don't see that
• 31:02
  they see the dollar signs. And it's just, you know, you
• 31:05
  understand, make a very good point.
• 31:07
  Actually, every time they ever talk about this stuff.
• 31:11
  So we When yeah, whenever someone is talking about your
• 31:13
  product, your movie. That's free advertising for you.
• 31:16
  You know, especially if a person has a following I mean And I
• 31:21
  think that's part of it as well. Like I imagine if you have like
• 31:26
  a couple of million followers, I doubt that stuff's getting
• 31:29
  claimed. You know?
• 31:30
  The mean because it's like look at this audience from what I've
• 31:33
  seen. It's more so the radar.
• 31:35
  Yeah. But the Anchorage Osho is a
• 31:38
  fantastic example. The Cosmonaut variety hour.
• 31:42
  They've all had big issues with copyright where companies have
• 31:48
  gone from these has Channels with me.
• 31:50
  Ian's of subscribers whose videos do over 100,000 views,
• 31:55
  each video, at least, you know, I know summer cosmonauts, have
• 31:57
  got millions and he's had copyright issues, particularly
• 32:01
  from Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers, are the worst of the
• 32:04
  worst, it just want to point that out.
• 32:06
  They really do not want people talking about their stuff
• 32:09
  clearly and that, yeah, they're just constantly Under Fire with
• 32:14
  this stuff, you know. I just want to add to this as
• 32:17
  well. It's check quickly.
• 32:18
  I saw I was watching some in the other About this, like, like,
• 32:21
  how crazy copyright can go. And I think Disney might
• 32:25
  actually be the worst of all, because I've heard that in some
• 32:29
  cases. Like, if you, okay, let's say
• 32:32
  you wanna have like a children's birthday party, right?
• 32:35
  And you just want to have like a mock-up image of like alone,
• 32:40
  Mickey Mouse, right? They will sue your ass for that
• 32:43
  shit. Like, even though it's like it's
• 32:47
  just some kid's birthday party, who cares, right?
• 32:50
  I think stable got outside yourself and so I don't think
• 32:54
  that's the case now so much. So I know for a fact that Nikki
• 32:59
  was supposed to be in the public domain really doesn't.
• 33:02
  Yeah. Cuz it's like, 100 years of the
• 33:04
  character you, but it's still actively.
• 33:07
  That's the thing that they stopped it.
• 33:09
  They, they have stopped it, they have retained it.
• 33:11
  So it's not in the public domain.
• 33:13
  Yeah, that's, that's what I mean.
• 33:14
  They can, they continue it? They continually extend the
• 33:17
  license and stuff on it. Yeah, but I think Disney Kind of
• 33:20
  waking up as a company a little bit.
• 33:22
  I know people view them as the thing of all evil, I do get that
• 33:27
  but I, I don't know. I just feel like they might be
• 33:32
  cleaning up their act slightly like in terms of YouTube's
• 33:35
  copyright, I get very few issues from Disney.
• 33:40
  I got a claim for playing Kingdom Hearts last year for
• 33:45
  playing Kingdom Hearts 3 and they released it very quickly.
• 33:50
  Lee. I disputed it and within a
• 33:51
  couple of days, they release this so that didn't go to the
• 33:55
  30-day thing. We default to my favor, someone
• 33:58
  manually reviewed and said, you know what, fair enough recently.
• 34:02
  I don't know if you know about it, but Sora from Kingdom
• 34:04
  Hearts, was added, Smash Bros who I haven't received, a single
• 34:09
  claim for the music. When I've been stream is Master,
• 34:12
  I've been having it as my reading music because I
• 34:14
  absolutely love the Kingdom Hearts series.
• 34:16
  I want to well, the, the best moment of the entire smash I
• 34:20
  guess for me and I have not received one claim.
• 34:23
  I've been streaming Kingdom Hearts 2, which has variations
• 34:28
  on the classic Disney music that disney-owned.
• 34:31
  No, not a single issue. So, I do think they're wise
• 34:34
  enough to it particularly, seeing, as the Warner Brothers,
• 34:37
  versity seen as sorry. Warner Brothers, First, Disney
• 34:39
  wall continues, Warner Brothers, just keep getting worse.
• 34:43
  And I think Disney have realized, like, okay, people
• 34:46
  enjoy our movies more in this whole superhero.
• 34:50
  Or were having. So how about we get the
• 34:51
  community even more on side and stop, claiming them for
• 34:55
  everything they have and then yeah, yeah, I have to say, Well,
• 34:58
  since they bought Marvel things, do seem to be changing for
• 35:02
  better and worse. I mean, you know, the Star Wars
• 35:05
  movies is, you know, it's a very diverse of kind of.
• 35:09
  Is it? Polarizing issue?
• 35:10
  Is it polarizing? Because most people agree, it
• 35:14
  was bullshit. He's a hunter eyes I see a lot
• 35:18
  of people that don't you know what, you know what is right.
• 35:21
  I don't hear anyone going and I'm sure there are some people
• 35:24
  that genuinely love those movies but I don't hear anyone going
• 35:28
  like Ah that's amazing that these movies were amazing but
• 35:32
  you know the one thing I do kind of feel for them on is the fact
• 35:37
  that like Naturally, those movies get compared to that.
• 35:41
  The original original Star Wars movies and the original original
• 35:44
  ones. Like not only are they good Star
• 35:47
  Wars movies, they are good. But they are Classic Cinema.
• 35:52
  That's that's the big difference.
• 35:53
  They are like, yes, like yes, but great.
• 35:56
  Great is some of the greatest movies.
• 35:58
  Ever met. Like, Empire Strikes Back is
• 36:00
  arguably, probably the best sequel ever made to any movie,
• 36:03
  you know? I mean, and then there's loads
• 36:04
  out. I agree.
• 36:05
  I agree. I think there's a few others on
• 36:06
  the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great.
• 36:10
  So I only know one person that loves these include trilogy, Now
• 36:15
  if you're watching this showers to you but God, no I view the
• 36:22
  sequel was on the same level that I view the prequels.
• 36:26
  Yeah. Revenge - see - - the fun
• 36:30
  prequel so the fund means there's no means.
• 36:34
  I think Revenge of the Sith is the best of the prequel trilogy.
• 36:39
  I actually think it's a decent Star Wars movie, you know, third
• 36:43
  one in this. A saga.
• 36:46
  I think the force awakens is a genuinely good Star Wars, maybe.
• 36:51
  Yes. I've had a lot of fun with that
• 36:54
  but it's just a remake of a new hope.
• 36:56
  It is anticipated by the number of plays it by the numbers.
• 37:04
  Do they actually made the same movie?
• 37:07
  Yes. Think about the plot structure
• 37:13
  of a phantom menace. Okay, but here's the thing.
• 37:19
  See ya, the plot that the divide, the plot device is
• 37:22
  always the same across all of those movies more or less except
• 37:25
  for Attack of the Clones where it's just talking talking
• 37:27
  talking, talking talking, most forgettable film I've ever seen.
• 37:31
  It's aside from like the few good mean, worthy points.
• 37:35
  All I remember from that movie is Anakin sand talking Jango
• 37:42
  Fett. Oh yeah.
• 37:45
  The things I remember about Jango Fett and, and Kenobi on
• 37:51
  kamino. The Camino was good.
• 37:52
  That was good. Yeah.
• 37:53
  But do you know flipping about with a lightsaber for the first
• 37:55
  time? That was okay, right.
• 38:00
  That I don't think it's a good movie.
• 38:01
  I don't like it but you have to admit when you're in the cinema
• 38:05
  as a church to. Oh, yeah, you saw him under seat
• 38:07
  belt. Light, save your life.
• 38:09
  Yeah, that was. Yeah, of course, of course.
• 38:11
  But I thought in the third, the third movie, Revenge of the Sith
• 38:14
  I do, That movie. I think it's fun.
• 38:16
  Yes, I think is really good. I think it's saved the pretty
• 38:20
  Coast. Be honest.
• 38:22
  I don't think it could save it. I think it did.
• 38:24
  So I think at that point, if they'd just done another ship
• 38:27
  movie, that would have been it. Brendan is saved as a as a
• 38:31
  Trilogy, it's terrible. But I feel like the third one is
• 38:35
  like George, Lucas BMO. We are sorry for everything else
• 38:39
  and that Jim do, you know I mean like I know that it's him
• 38:42
  saying. I'm so sorry about Jar Jar
• 38:44
  Binks. Here's Yeah.
• 38:46
  Well have you heard this stuff about charger?
• 38:48
  The batt the original plan. Yeah, I think it's BS.
• 38:52
  George. Lucas has said it, what did he
• 38:55
  plan to have him as a Sith? Lord, not necessarily as a Sith
• 39:00
  Lords but George, I was meant to have a much bigger and darker
• 39:05
  role is what he said, but even the fans hated it, so much, that
• 39:11
  scrapped, it, that would have been so much better because it
• 39:14
  would have been It would have been swell.
• 39:16
  The reason why I would have been cool is because his character
• 39:18
  act stupid, right? And this idea that he's actually
• 39:23
  putting on an act, makes him an even greater villain, but I
• 39:26
  agree, but instead, use just annoying, he was supposed to be
• 39:31
  comedy relief, but it wasn't funny.
• 39:33
  That's how he was just a bit like of a racist caricature at
• 39:36
  the end of the day, like that. Well, there's bit, there's been
• 39:40
  a lot of calls about it being quite racist, but I heard that I
• 39:46
  am a middle-aged white guy. I can't speak on those matters
• 39:48
  of the end of the day, but there's been a lot of talk on
• 39:51
  that and there's been a lot of talk on like the actor himself.
• 39:58
  I think he's self-harmed over. I think d'amigo out to say yes,
• 40:02
  I got like a lot of backlash and bullied for that, which is not
• 40:05
  cool. Now, there's an obvious, I'm not
• 40:08
  being funny, right? These idiots that watch movies
• 40:11
  and then Target the actor. Like it.
• 40:13
  Like it's the actors for the actors playing.
• 40:15
  Roll. You idiots.
• 40:19
  Let me say it's about the Sonic Community, actually, because
• 40:22
  this is a really valid point that I've really had to drive
• 40:25
  home this year. And I've really been I've argued
• 40:27
  the toss for people over. So a lot of people have been
• 40:32
  unhappy with the way that someone has been written since
• 40:37
  about 2010. And that's when the new voice
• 40:40
  actor. Roger Craig Smith came in in
• 40:42
  2010 as at the I'm time as new writers.
• 40:47
  And all Roger has received was not all he's received by here
• 40:51
  for. She's a massive amount of hay
• 40:55
  from the fans because although he's written, so cheese Ali.
• 40:59
  No, and there's no depth to the character and it's just like, I
• 41:04
  remember when I interviewed him, the amount of people that gave
• 41:06
  him hate on it and I was just like, he doesn't write his
• 41:10
  lines, he doesn't write how the character is portrayed.
• 41:14
  And People are suing all they are now it's all his fault and
• 41:17
  it's, I know, it's these terrible writers that just
• 41:21
  aren't doing anything with the character, like he is doing the
• 41:24
  very best with what he is. Give it a go to say.
• 41:27
  There's something I really don't like about fan culture in make
• 41:32
  because I don't ever remember I'm sure this happened.
• 41:35
  You know when we were kids and before then like I'm sure people
• 41:40
  I think I remember hearing about that when Star Trek Next Gen
• 41:43
  came out people you know they have received hey 84 that, you
• 41:45
  know, for example versus old Star Trek fan, but I think the
• 41:48
  concept is stupid. Like, look whenever you really
• 41:51
  something new, there's just going to be people that don't
• 41:54
  like it and even if it's kind of universally agreed that it sucks
• 41:57
  like don't Target people like you know what?
• 42:01
  Like I say this about those Star Wars movies, right?
• 42:06
  At least they're like They are coherent stories, their stuff
• 42:12
  you can, you can enjoy even enjoy them as movies, you know,
• 42:15
  you can get entertainment from them and the Act and the ACT
• 42:19
  isn't your did, their best. And then the directors had their
• 42:21
  own vision for ETC. When I think about and I've said
• 42:24
  this on the podcast before, when I think about that, the Game of
• 42:28
  Thrones season finale, right? That angered me, not because of
• 42:34
  anything that the actors did or, you know, even particularly
• 42:38
  Story. You know, the story was, it was
• 42:41
  what it was, but my problem was that, it was clearly rushed and
• 42:45
  it was lazy. And it was, it didn't make any
• 42:47
  logical sense. For example, just a quick thing.
• 42:52
  And again, I said this before, so sorry, but to drive the home
• 42:55
  Point, there's a character called it bran.
• 42:59
  I think his name is the, what the one who gets like crippled
• 43:02
  at the beginning of the first season.
• 43:04
  And then he becomes the black eyed Raven and then That's what
• 43:09
  you think is three-eyed Raven Weaver's.
• 43:11
  That's his story arc. Okay.
• 43:13
  And it comes into full effect and it's cool.
• 43:15
  It's interesting, it's always this going.
• 43:17
  And then randomly season a oh okay he's going to be king.
• 43:23
  What? Like there was there was no set
• 43:25
  up for that. There was no excuse for out the
• 43:27
  entire eight seasons. It was also contradicting
• 43:32
  contradictory because his character is supposed to what
• 43:35
  the point of his characteristic, his old character that Run is
• 43:39
  now dead and all it is. Is this three-eyed Raven?
• 43:43
  Character is replaced it. That's what you're supposed to
• 43:45
  believe. And this character is supposed
• 43:47
  to be above, you know, things like ego and stuff like that.
• 43:53
  But him going to Druid isn't he by that regard?
• 43:57
  Kind of. Yeah.
• 43:58
  So, like, one with nature, not to be tied to a throat you.
• 44:02
  Yeah. The whole point is that he
• 44:03
  wouldn't have either. Yeah, because if you're going to
• 44:05
  be king, there's a certain amount of ego involved.
• 44:07
  You know, you believe you, You are good enough to rule the
• 44:10
  Kingdom's and Bob are right. But and then that final season,
• 44:16
  but he's pushing he actually wants to become king and I'm
• 44:19
  like, yeah, but this, this is contradictory to his character.
• 44:22
  This doesn't make any sense. Anyway, I think that was what
• 44:27
  annoyed me not anything else, you know?
• 44:29
  Like I think we're stories at the end of the day you can't,
• 44:33
  please everyone. You just can't.
• 44:34
  It's impossible. And I check changes inevitable.
• 44:37
  Like, you going back to the Sonic point?
• 44:39
  The original actor? I mean, how long did you do that
• 44:41
  for like, a long, long time? I mean, we've had a few
• 44:44
  different actors. Okay.
• 44:46
  The current Sonic has been the longest running, okay, Sonic 4
• 44:50
  Pro decade. Now there will come a time when
• 44:54
  he leaves the role you know and And they'll be a whole new
• 44:57
  generation of fans that will have grown up with Roger and
• 45:00
  hate the new one and it's service.
• 45:02
  It's just like, it's like, it's like Doctor Who, you know, like
• 45:05
  when everyone grew up with Tenon and then Matt Smith came along
• 45:09
  and said, who's that smooth and then they give him a chance,
• 45:11
  they find. They're like him and then they
• 45:13
  hate the next person and it's just like this is stupid.
• 45:17
  Like look, it is I get the people don't like it when
• 45:20
  something changes, you know, they like they want to remember
• 45:23
  how it was and stuff, but change is inevitable.
• 45:25
  Change is part of life and you got to embrace it.
• 45:29
  I think I think one of the big things is the judgment on
• 45:32
  whether that is the correct thing to do though.
• 45:35
  Like with a lot of things like let's look at Two and a Half Men
• 45:38
  for instance, right? I was an intern on them fan,
• 45:40
  right? So once you had got rid of
• 45:43
  Charlie Sheen, yes, we can change to Ashton Kutcher.
• 45:48
  We can continue for all the four or five seasons but should we
• 45:54
  No, that's that's where the Judgment needed to come in, you
• 45:59
  know, I'll dig around. I don't hate on Ashton Kutcher's
• 46:01
  performance in it and I don't hate on those that those
• 46:04
  Seasons, but the show was the show was Charlie Sheen, and I
• 46:08
  think it should have been wrapped their.
• 46:10
  See, here's where I disagree with you.
• 46:13
  I agree that the heart and soul of that show was definitely the
• 46:17
  area with Charlie Sheen and it was definitely the best episodes
• 46:19
  hands down but they had a real chance.
• 46:24
  Chance to revamp the show with Kushner do something, different.
• 46:27
  When you think about his, here's the thing, okay, is just a
• 46:30
  comedy show, right? So logic and reasoning.
• 46:32
  Doesn't have to always be there. But let's just look at the story
• 46:35
  for one second right. Charlie's brother.
• 46:41
  He's leaching of his brother. And and the reason why that's
• 46:45
  loud is because they're brothers and blah, blah blah, right?
• 46:47
  Yeah, and they love each other, okay?
• 46:49
  And therefore each other, that makes sense.
• 46:50
  That story makes sense, people can relate to that when Ashton's
• 46:54
  cooked Kutcher's character came in.
• 46:55
  He's a billionaire who happens to buy this house and Charlie's
• 47:04
  brother is initially kind of showing him around this place
• 47:08
  and manages to weasel his way into staying there.
• 47:11
  Right by being, a sort of a guide, I don't know, like a kind
• 47:16
  of leaching friend, which kind of is funny in the beginning.
• 47:20
  But then after a while you're like, why wouldn't this guy just
• 47:23
  tell them to effort, get the hell out of my out?
• 47:25
  Like, stop pinching off me, you know, because he's maybe it's
• 47:27
  the point like, oh, we're going to adopt a child together and
• 47:29
  pretend, we're married and all this kind of stuff and I'm like,
• 47:33
  you have run out of ideas. Yeah, that does scare and simple
• 47:37
  and it's like, don't get me wrong, I think it could have
• 47:40
  been something. but when you look at it, like, Chop the whole
• 47:46
  dichotomy of it wasn't just that he was leeching off his brother.
• 47:49
  It's the Charlie was a cold unaffectionate alcoholic.
• 47:55
  Mmm, that's a sex addict. Essentially, who was learning to
• 48:01
  open up to family again and learning to be tolerant and
• 48:05
  learning to fall in love and things like that.
• 48:08
  And It just felt like his a reinvention of that character
• 48:16
  type where he can do all of those things.
• 48:21
  But he's got an innocence to him where it's like, but he doesn't
• 48:25
  do those things but he's Goodrich he's realizing that he
• 48:28
  could be a billionaire playboy kind of thing and Allen kind of
• 48:30
  keeps them on track and it's just like, it just wasn't the
• 48:34
  same Dynamic. It was an interesting.
• 48:36
  And another great example of why I was saying I think his UPS
• 48:41
  scrubs finished with season 8, as far as I'm concerned when JD
• 48:46
  walks through that hallway and he sees all the images from his
• 48:50
  past and he sees what's going to happen, Miss future with him and
• 48:52
  Elliot having kids, and he walks down the hallway, finishes his
• 48:55
  last day of Sacred Heart. That is the end and then what
• 48:59
  did they decide to do? Will bring them back, we'll do a
• 49:02
  season with brand new characters, but we'll bring that
• 49:05
  main cast back to be mentor and characters and move.
• 49:08
  Reinventing it. And we're In Scrubs differently.
• 49:11
  No, stop because it was fucking terrible.
• 49:14
  And it destroyed everything. They did in that last episode
• 49:18
  because moments of closure, you had, you know, but something
• 49:21
  we're talking about here, which is important.
• 49:23
  Is this concept of reinvention? You can reinvent, but you've got
• 49:27
  to give time for people to love the new characters.
• 49:30
  Like, for example, look at the unsuccessful Ghostbusters movie
• 49:34
  from 2016, right? Yeah.
• 49:36
  The original characters from what I understand because I've
• 49:39
  never saw them. What I got told is apparently
• 49:41
  they played like cameos in the movie and what people will
• 49:47
  really clamoring for what people really wanted was a third
• 49:51
  Ghostbusters movie and it would have, you would have been able
• 49:57
  to introduce an all-female cast. If you'd have kind of had like a
• 50:03
  passing of the torch moment, you know what I mean?
• 50:07
  I think I'm stupid. That is something that we kind
• 50:09
  of touched upon. Earlier is none of this stuff
• 50:12
  works. No matter how much like
• 50:15
  Nostalgia you put in or whatever.
• 50:17
  If there is not good writing, good writing is the backbone.
• 50:22
  You can introduce me, you could give me a new four-person cast
• 50:27
  of Brad Pitt and Angelina Angelina, Jolie Leonardo
• 50:33
  DiCaprio. Give me that.
• 50:40
  If they're not written well then that is going to suck.
• 50:44
  It's not going to resonate with audiences and they're not going
• 50:47
  to be invested. If it's written correctly.
• 50:51
  You have something fantastic. Do you can build on that
• 50:53
  reinvention with and yeah I just think it comes down to it all
• 50:56
  the time. The backbone, the solid backbone
• 50:59
  of any production is the writing.
• 51:02
  It can look like crap but if you if you can resonate with that
• 51:06
  story, if you are gripped by it and you want to go into every
• 51:11
  episode wanting more or, you know, the next movie or
• 51:13
  whatever, then you've done it, it's all about the writing, it's
• 51:16
  all about the narrative. Yeah, you know, you nailed that
• 51:20
  one. I couldn't agree more and I just
• 51:22
  want to tie up on the reinvention thing.
• 51:24
  I think. You got to have a combination of
• 51:28
  the two day so you need good writing for the story.
• 51:30
  But, you know, you like, for instance, with this new
• 51:34
  Ghostbusters movie, that's exactly what they're doing
• 51:36
  actually, is the passing of the torch them, like, they've got
• 51:39
  record. Don't get me wrong, they got
• 51:40
  recognizable actors for this generation that you'd know like,
• 51:44
  was it Finn from from stranger things?
• 51:47
  Pull her out. Pull, right.
• 51:48
  Yeah. Like people that you would like
• 51:50
  and people, you know. Yeah.
• 51:51
  But point is, it's for a new generation but it's got that
• 51:54
  first Alger but it's handing over Like they did that.
• 51:57
  Well in the force awakens, to be honest.
• 52:00
  I mean zactly, you know, you had Han Solo and chewy and and
• 52:05
  Princess Leia. But then, you know, you
• 52:06
  introduce these new characters and and it was exciting, you
• 52:09
  know, it was exciting. Here's this Jedi that, you know,
• 52:12
  nothing about that is really powerful and what's going on
• 52:16
  there and it has to be a Skywalker.
• 52:19
  Yeah, that are powerful team and we've been so much cooler if
• 52:23
  they did this end of that movie, right?
• 52:26
  With her. Her going into.
• 52:28
  Are you? And she just went Palpatine and
• 52:31
  then just civilization no, that would have been amazing because
• 52:40
  it's just fantasy or he's come to life and I hate it so much.
• 52:47
  You think that's what it was. Then my people hated The Last
• 52:49
  Jedi so much that there was just too much.
• 52:52
  Then the third movie was so kind of retcon it.
• 52:54
  Basically this is the problem, right?
• 52:56
  Because Star Wars fans. It's just, I'm one of them so I
• 53:01
  feel friend. I know you are as well, so don't
• 53:03
  take offense, but I'm just gonna sell them all of us.
• 53:05
  Now, we are all fucking idiots, man.
• 53:09
  It's like so we see Ray in the force awakens and it's like, oh
• 53:14
  so she could be Obi-Wan's daughter.
• 53:16
  Oh, oh, I imagine if she was like Palpatine's granddaughter
• 53:19
  or she's definitely a Skywalker because she can't just be
• 53:23
  someone else that isn't connected to anyone.
• 53:28
  And then Brian Johnson was like, no, that's exactly what I'm
• 53:31
  going to do and then go wrong. I really don't like the Last
• 53:33
  Jedi but he did it and I wasn't okay with it.
• 53:36
  The start, because I'm one of those Star Wars fan.
• 53:38
  So I was like, you know, I've made peace with this.
• 53:41
  She is nobody. That's kind of exciting that not
• 53:44
  every Jedi. And this thing has to be from
• 53:45
  the same families and then we get to the third one where it's
• 53:49
  like, oh yeah, yeah, people really didn't like the Last
• 53:53
  Jedi. Now, let me go on a ready, and
• 53:55
  let me just see what the top fan theories.
• 53:57
  I've raised a pal 13. Yo, that could work at JJ on the
• 54:01
  phone. Let's get this written up.
• 54:02
  And yeah, he'll come back for it.
• 54:04
  He's not starting anything for a while, you know, make a bit of
• 54:06
  money. Yeah, call us get done.
• 54:08
  No. Stop like I'm a fan, stop
• 54:12
  listening to us. When is it ever go?
• 54:15
  Well when people base entire plots on fan theories like
• 54:20
  wasn't I wasn't a fan of Palpatine coming back.
• 54:23
  I loved carrots. Don't we Rollin I love in
• 54:25
  McDermott. I think it's brilliant character
• 54:27
  but To me that kind of killed the ending of Return of the Jedi
• 54:32
  in a way, because it was like, oh, he some but even was a typo
• 54:37
  damn room when he's just like, somehow he came back.
• 54:41
  Right. And that's exactly the sense of
• 54:43
  Haiti everyone's head. So this is the thing Palpatine.
• 54:48
  As he has written an extended media and whatnot is powerful
• 54:53
  enough to survive. What happened?
• 54:55
  Yeah, the Jedi so For if you're going to bring him back and
• 55:01
  again we come back to my point about oh well written narrative.
• 55:04
  If we're going to bring him back and there is some explanation,
• 55:08
  some well-written story as to how that's happened.
• 55:11
  I am all for it. Explain the greater loss,
• 55:13
  explain how connected he is with the force.
• 55:16
  Do not, tell me in a title screen, title cruel reveal that
• 55:22
  he's back and then have Oscar Isaac to say, somehow Palpatine
• 55:26
  has returned and that be it. Like that's not good narrative.
• 55:31
  That's low narrative that says, no worries there.
• 55:34
  It's like the excitement. That's frozen.
• 55:36
  Everyone is someone going, oh, and then something happened, and
• 55:40
  it sort of happened and then this happened.
• 55:42
  Okay. Great.
• 55:42
  Cool. Start seem like, it's like, just
• 55:47
  accepted just accept it. Yeah, you know what?
• 55:49
  Like, I half expected, there's some point senses, your comic
• 55:53
  and just be like, oh, want to know the bit that we couldn't be
• 55:56
  more than surrounding to, the story, here it goes.
• 55:58
  We'll do that. People hate it so much, just
• 56:01
  like that. Seeing that clo.
• 56:03
  Let's switch it up. I love how this to cover style
• 56:06
  was podcast. Yeah, that's that's medium.
• 56:10
  You've secured a job at Sega. Yes, you now work as say go,
• 56:15
  this is mad telework and Sega tell us about this job, what it
• 56:19
  means to you and how you got it. So I was working for a company
• 56:24
  previous, see that where I built PCS for the VFX architecture and
• 56:29
  gaming Industries. So big bad boy PCS.
• 56:34
  You know 38 years? 30 90s, All That Jazz.
• 56:39
  And it was great. I was having so much fun with it
• 56:43
  honestly. Awesome.
• 56:44
  And I got to a point where I was building PCS for Sega through
• 56:50
  that job. They were one of the customers
• 56:54
  and I've always kind of Been updated on LinkedIn stuff with
• 57:01
  people at Sega, I've always kind of followed that stuff because
• 57:04
  they're part of the job. As a Sonic cheaper is 0 that
• 57:07
  they're hiring for a new project.
• 57:09
  Okay. What's going on there then?
• 57:11
  And one thing just kind of led to another in a series of crazy
• 57:20
  events and things happening. I just I didn't plan for and
• 57:27
  Yeah. Now I am working as on the help
• 57:32
  desk that the it help desk at Sega, it's it's crazy.
• 57:39
  I have to kind of remind myself every day that this is reality.
• 57:44
  Now it's just I just can't put into words.
• 57:50
  Like I think people will ever understand because I don't fully
• 57:53
  understand just how like the entire Destiny of mine has been
• 58:04
  linked to a video game that I played in 1995.
• 58:09
  Yeah, and the journey that I've taken over these 28 years I'd
• 58:17
  now contributing to my favorite franchise will tired.
• 58:22
  You know, not that not directly. I'm not going to say here that
• 58:24
  I'm like I working on next Sonic game guys.
• 58:27
  And that's, that's not how it works.
• 58:29
  But like it didn't happen, it just saying heads.
• 58:33
  But you know the people that I'm supporting The issues.
• 58:39
  I'm fixing all of that kind of thing is all directly affecting
• 58:44
  this brand and all of the other wonderful brands that Sega has,
• 58:48
  you know, in the UK. We work very hard on the
• 58:51
  football manager games every year which I hugely successful
• 58:56
  and we support, you know, teams like Relic who work on the total
• 59:00
  war series, it's hugely successful series, the Yakuza
• 59:05
  series. There's so many amazing friends.
• 59:07
  Sighs is coming out and Sega and just doing what I do.
• 59:12
  Kind of well not kind of supports them all and it's just
• 59:16
  such a surreal feeling it's one. I can't really quantify it just
• 59:22
  every day. Those Elevate both every day
• 59:24
  because you know, covid restrictions not every time I go
• 59:27
  into that office and those elevator doors open.
• 59:29
  And I just see that massive Sega sign on the doors before I enter
• 59:34
  and see the big statue of Saint occur.
• 59:36
  It's just It's crazy. I'm really living the dream
• 59:40
  right now. Like I just just can't even just
• 59:43
  can't even like it. When they do guys get this shot.
• 59:47
  Like the chance in life. It makes me happy.
• 59:50
  Thank you, bro. I lost.
• 59:53
  I did. They reach out to you.
• 59:54
  I know you are obviously that if you can't say the legal reasons,
• 59:58
  the problem but like I gotta know, like, was it you pushing
• 1:00:03
  for it or was it they kind of recognize them?
• 1:00:06
  Like hey what about this? Or like, who kind of extended
• 1:00:10
  the olive branch? Jose was Mutual.
• 1:00:15
  Okay. And that's not like a thing of
• 1:00:17
  like I can't really see. Like it was genuinely talker
• 1:00:21
  kind of a mutual thing. Hmm through conversation fair
• 1:00:26
  enough that's actually I had asked and said look do you think
• 1:00:32
  it's a good idea for me to to go forward for this to go for this
• 1:00:37
  position? The conversation happened and
• 1:00:41
  yeah, now we're Congratulations been proud of you.
• 1:00:45
  Thank you man. Thank you.
• 1:00:48
  It's crazy. You mentioned it a little bit
• 1:00:51
  earlier but let's explore this. What can you tell us about?
• 1:00:54
  You getting the opportunity to voice.
• 1:00:56
  Sonic the Hedgehog. So not in an official capacity.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah, guys, do not expect me in the movie or the games, but I'm
• 1:01:05
  gonna click bait and just say that, your, you voiced Sonic the
• 1:01:09
  Hedgehog because it's not, it's not a lie.
• 1:01:12
  It's just, it's just it is to read it for a fan thing.
• 1:01:15
  Anyway, well I haven't done that yet.
• 1:01:18
  So there's two projects at the moment.
• 1:01:21
  There's one that I'm working on with a few people.
• 1:01:24
  I'm not like the main person on it, but I am going to be voicing
• 1:01:27
  characters in it, which is awesome.
• 1:01:29
  We're going into some work in that on that during January.
• 1:01:34
  There's another one that is being run by one of my channel
• 1:01:38
  viewers. That is also looking at the
• 1:01:41
  beginning. Work in January, I believe that
• 1:01:43
  I have, I've, I think I'm in the running for, to do something
• 1:01:48
  with, which is really cool. And then, on my channel, I've
• 1:01:51
  just been doing my own fandubs, as I said, of of cutscenes
• 1:01:56
  voicing multiple different. Actors.
• 1:02:00
  And I want to continue my comic series as well.
• 1:02:02
  My comic dub Series this year. Just during this pandemic has
• 1:02:06
  been quite difficult to find a female voice actor to come in
• 1:02:10
  and do a me to be completely honest with you.
• 1:02:12
  So I can do episode 2, the first episode is Sonic and Tails, the
• 1:02:17
  second is Sonic and Amy. I think after that, I've got
• 1:02:20
  like a solid six episodes. Sure, I can voice every
• 1:02:23
  character and it causes male, but then it gets to the point
• 1:02:26
  where all the female character start coming into as well.
• 1:02:28
  And it's like, Looking to do a disservice, by trying to do a
• 1:02:32
  female voice. So, I'm just gonna try and
• 1:02:36
  assemble a cost to get this done.
• 1:02:38
  Hmm. So yeah, like, I'm really loving
• 1:02:42
  jumping into that world of the voice acting side of things, you
• 1:02:47
  know, I'm not gonna sit here and say that I'm particularly good.
• 1:02:49
  I'll leave, you know, people up to make up their own minds up
• 1:02:53
  about that. You may go check it out on the
• 1:02:54
  channel if you want to see something and look out for these
• 1:02:56
  projects hopefully coming next year.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, but it's just it's a lot of fun to be able to kind of sit
• 1:03:02
  here and like a lot of nights. I'll be sitting there and I just
• 1:03:06
  maybe I'm having a smoke Rome, just watching something and I'm
• 1:03:09
  like, practicing the voice and refining it and trying to get to
• 1:03:13
  a little places. Think like, how would I want to
• 1:03:17
  voice Sonic? How would I want to waste Shadow
• 1:03:20
  Tails Knuckles and I'll get it going to be doing their Knuckles
• 1:03:23
  one soon for the channel. That's not no one's seen me.
• 1:03:26
  Do Knuckles yet, but I will be doing or knuckles.
• 1:03:29
  Isis is really nice. You know, I mean, just to kind
• 1:03:31
  of be able to put my own unique spin on these characters that I
• 1:03:36
  love so much and just yeah, it's a bit of fun, really, and people
• 1:03:39
  do seem to be enjoying it on the YouTube shorts from so long as
• 1:03:43
  people keep watching, imma keep doing it and, you know, we'll
• 1:03:46
  see how it goes. But, you know, Sega if you are
• 1:03:49
  watching this You know, and you need someone for a Sonic
• 1:03:53
  project, I'm your guy. I'm real glad I don't worry
• 1:03:55
  about it. I've got you a donut, Amy
• 1:03:58
  Calamity Hatcher. For the next Sonic, the Hedgehog
• 1:04:03
  voice acting spot I'm calling it.
• 1:04:05
  Now imagine if that happens, imagine if that Calamity for
• 1:04:08
  subsonic, imagine that happens. Imagine the voice actor steps
• 1:04:11
  down and they say Jack, would you like to audition would
• 1:04:16
  youwould? Can you audition?
• 1:04:18
  I wonder Sega. Ah, Very good about like
• 1:04:25
  opportunities within the company.
• 1:04:28
  So I, you know what, like I think if that did happen,
• 1:04:32
  obviously, they would probably look at professional voice
• 1:04:35
  actors first, but I don't think, say, good-b the kind of company
• 1:04:38
  to throw your CV out the window when you apply to go beyond
• 1:04:41
  Shinobi brilliant, like as a full circle, you just mad.
• 1:04:45
  Imagine that story I picked up my Sega Mega Drive controller in
• 1:04:49
  1995. Then let's say 30 years later.
• 1:04:55
  I am. So, did the head documentaries?
• 1:05:01
  But well, I am campaigning for so listening to this podcast,
• 1:05:07
  you know, we're going to move this along with any of the
• 1:05:09
  hatchlings that are watching right now.
• 1:05:11
  We're going to form together and create this this Army.
• 1:05:14
  They're going to get this going, we need a Calamity hatch, a
• 1:05:18
  cameo in Sonic, the Hedgehog's, the movie 3 because are Shadow
• 1:05:24
  the Hedgehog Hedgehogs in it as well.
• 1:05:26
  I need a cameo. Just just as a tiny Cameo 5
• 1:05:29
  seconds on screen. Never see me again.
• 1:05:32
  This guy died. Do you know what?
• 1:05:34
  I honestly think? That's very possible for no.
• 1:05:39
  But know if you if you look at it from the perspective of like,
• 1:05:45
  Eva people even there's a section where like Sonic has
• 1:05:50
  fans or something like that that could work or people, you know
• 1:05:53
  like okay. I was watching a movie called
• 1:05:57
  free guy. The other day love that film
• 1:06:00
  great movie for those who don't know, basically giant video game
• 1:06:05
  world, it's pretty. I won't spoil it, it's really
• 1:06:07
  good. But anyway there's a lot of
• 1:06:09
  people in it. Like a ninja I did not expect to
• 1:06:12
  see Ninja in a movie But he's obviously, they're streaming,
• 1:06:16
  you know, talking about what's going on, kind of thing.
• 1:06:19
  And it's kind of a weird thing when you think about it, but
• 1:06:21
  also it's not really that weird, you know, streaming and gaming
• 1:06:25
  is a massive part of culture. Now, it's just us.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah, it is so. So, and the whole game is about
• 1:06:31
  video game, video game. So, it makes sense.
• 1:06:33
  And if we can get a Sanic cameo in the first movie, we could
• 1:06:37
  definitely get a clammy hands during the third, I think.
• 1:06:40
  So, like come on fingers crossed.
• 1:06:43
  Let's make it happen. PPL.
• 1:06:44
  Tweet of the driver tweet a parallel, right?
• 1:06:48
  I want to ask you something serious because you've spoken
• 1:06:53
  about this publicly, and you don't have to answer this, if
• 1:06:56
  you don't want to go down. So this year, you mentioned that
• 1:07:01
  you've experienced health problems having real.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, that could lead to blindness.
• 1:07:07
  Now, this kind of freaked me out when I read this, to be honest,
• 1:07:11
  what can you tell us about? This can be cured or Reversed
• 1:07:17
  because this is a this is Major especially yeah everything that
• 1:07:20
  you do. I'm a situation that so it can't
• 1:07:22
  like, it can't be cured, it can be. postponed to a point where
• 1:07:33
  like It doesn't actually affect you in your lifetime, but
• 1:07:41
  there's a lot of conditions go to that, you know, as
• 1:07:45
  everything, you know, nothing in life is easy.
• 1:07:51
  So, at the moment, I'm kind of just working on me in that
• 1:07:56
  regard because it's largely diabetes based.
• 1:08:00
  So, you know, I worked really Well, have been working hard to
• 1:08:07
  kind of, keep up Sugar's under control, start eating better or
• 1:08:11
  that kind of thing, and it gave her AIDS.
• 1:08:13
  It's not an easy thing to do it. So a lot of people don't kind of
• 1:08:18
  give it credit, but, you know, it is what it is.
• 1:08:23
  Yeah. Which we try to get through.
• 1:08:25
  At the end of the day, I think the biggest change I've made is
• 1:08:29
  not drinking monster anymore because monster was like, I was
• 1:08:33
  drinking like four or five months is a Day 1.2 him.
• 1:08:37
  Do you say 42 grams of sugar? I can.
• 1:08:41
  Wow, I know, I know and now I drink tea few, which has no
• 1:08:45
  sugar and that's all I took murdering monster anymore.
• 1:08:48
  So what actually is in key for what's in the, a lot of fruit
• 1:08:54
  powder, okay? A lot of caffeine goodness, I'm
• 1:09:00
  guessing a Sparta mean as the sweetener which we all know
• 1:09:04
  isn't great. I thought at the end of the day,
• 1:09:08
  if you're diabetic, that you're drinking as part of me, like
• 1:09:11
  there's no way around it, whether you're drinking no added
• 1:09:15
  sugar fruit squash with your drinking diet coke, mmm, Fanta
• 1:09:20
  Fanta, whatever it is. You're drinking.
• 1:09:22
  As far as me, okay? It's just the trade up at the
• 1:09:24
  end of the day, but yeah, so at the moment I'm making an active
• 1:09:29
  kind of things to make my life better to work on things and
• 1:09:33
  improve my health. So yeah, it's a battle but it's
• 1:09:38
  a war but I'm it would appear that.
• 1:09:41
  I'm starting to turn the tide of battle.
• 1:09:45
  So yeah, it's a tricky one. One thing that we share as well
• 1:09:50
  as like you know, they say sometimes like or the strongest
• 1:09:53
  people don't complain, they just get on with it.
• 1:09:56
  I always kind of disagree with that because I like you quite
• 1:10:00
  happily will ran or get annoyed or get upset and and, and wear
• 1:10:05
  my heart on my sleeve and just say like, oh this is
• 1:10:07
  frustrating. This pisses me off.
• 1:10:08
  This isn't you know, Bubba, Bubba, but then I'll do
• 1:10:12
  something about it. Like I'll still keep working
• 1:10:15
  hard. Keep trying to change different
• 1:10:18
  things taking advice, whatever. Like I won't just sit and sit
• 1:10:21
  and do nothing about it or wine and I feel like that's
• 1:10:24
  something. We share like you know, you're
• 1:10:27
  faced with these things. Your Voice search online.
• 1:10:28
  You'll be like, this is fucked. I don't know what to do, but
• 1:10:31
  then I see you keep going. You keep trying, you know, it
• 1:10:34
  doesn't like stop you from doing things.
• 1:10:36
  It's just your opinion, your frustrations kind of thing.
• 1:10:38
  Yeah. And like, they take it wrong,
• 1:10:41
  there's a fine line between, like, you are just making a
• 1:10:44
  doing nothing about it. Hmm.
• 1:10:46
  And venting. But it's the way that you
• 1:10:51
  conduct yourself. Like I will vent about stuff a
• 1:10:54
  little bit. Okay.
• 1:10:55
  This fucking sucks but then as soon as I've released that it's
• 1:10:59
  time to move on and start working on making it better the
• 1:11:03
  end of the day, like, you see me posted things and, oh, I'm so
• 1:11:07
  sick of the YouTube copyright system.
• 1:11:10
  Still going to upload a video the next day.
• 1:11:12
  Like you you have your right to complain about things in life.
• 1:11:18
  I really feel like people Well, don't appreciate this enough.
• 1:11:21
  Like if you're unhappy about something, and it's legitimate,
• 1:11:25
  then voice, it, fair enough. But you are not going to get the
• 1:11:31
  Absolution that you want from doing that.
• 1:11:34
  It's about getting that out of your system.
• 1:11:37
  And then working on how, you know, you can prove this and I
• 1:11:40
  do understand, you know, there are some circumstances of people
• 1:11:43
  room where they can't do anything and, you know, my heart
• 1:11:46
  goes out to that complete completely empathize with that.
• 1:11:50
  But everyone's situation is different.
• 1:11:53
  And it's like, for instance, one of the things that really annoys
• 1:11:57
  me that you hear quite a lot is, like over there are people like
• 1:12:01
  starving all over the world and you're complaining about this.
• 1:12:03
  It's like everyone's problems of relative to them.
• 1:12:08
  You can't just be like, oh yeah, but this person is suffering
• 1:12:10
  much more, but of course, you will always find someone in this
• 1:12:13
  world is suffering more than you, but that doesn't mean your
• 1:12:17
  problems aren't valid. It doesn't mean that you don't
• 1:12:19
  have a right to voice that and say, I'm unhappy with what's
• 1:12:23
  going on in my life right now. But then you just got to try and
• 1:12:25
  do everything. You can within your power to
• 1:12:28
  change that and make active improvements.
• 1:12:30
  And as I said, I am son of the snow always easy and I'm so it's
• 1:12:35
  not always possible but I guess that's what.
• 1:12:37
  On the mentality, I've had like me and you are very similar in
• 1:12:40
  like the work driven mindset. That we have, we are very intent
• 1:12:45
  on getting where we want to get in life and we just keep working
• 1:12:49
  and I think yeah then run if it's going to help you get to
• 1:12:55
  the top as long as you're proactive about it do what you
• 1:12:58
  need to do. Then the day I get to some
• 1:13:00
  people have more reserved but unlike you I wear my heart on my
• 1:13:04
  sleeve, a lot of things. So I'm just like I'll be giving
• 1:13:07
  I don't give a shit. This is unashamedly me.
• 1:13:12
  I'm still going to get to where I want to get to.
• 1:13:15
  So enjoy the ride. I'm not going to sit on social
• 1:13:18
  media pretend my life is perfect, like everyone wants to
• 1:13:21
  do, it's just come on, man. That thing really annoys me like
• 1:13:26
  everyone on the show. This is the perfect life.
• 1:13:28
  It's like, who buys that who really buys that?
• 1:13:32
  Like we've all got problems. There's like there's someone we
• 1:13:36
  used To school with and I'll tell you, I'll tell you off
• 1:13:39
  camera here it is. So it's a couple.
• 1:13:42
  They were dating someone from outside our school, and don't
• 1:13:47
  get me wrong, I'm very happy for them.
• 1:13:50
  Okay? But they were a bit much when
• 1:13:55
  they were dating when we were at school, okay?
• 1:13:57
  Yeah. All these years later exactly
• 1:14:01
  the same. It feels like every moment of
• 1:14:03
  their life is an update. Its Like, oh, we went to this
• 1:14:08
  party. Oh, we went for coffee.
• 1:14:13
  Oh, we painted the wall. I don't know, like, just
• 1:14:18
  everything is fucking life update that everyone needs to
• 1:14:22
  know and it's like, how much time do you actually spend
• 1:14:24
  living your life? Like you're not a bit.
• 1:14:28
  Like, don't get me wrong. If you want to share like P.
• 1:14:30
  We had a baby. I haven't got married yet.
• 1:14:32
  Awesome. Right.
• 1:14:34
  But I just don't understand why Everything needs to be an addict
• 1:14:39
  and update it and I tired of seeing it something.
• 1:14:42
  I'm very tempted to just like unfollow this person because it
• 1:14:46
  did it kind of aggravates me it's just like you know you've
• 1:14:51
  been doing this for the better part of like 50 years man.
• 1:14:55
  See you at the same time that you kind of go in the oven?
• 1:14:57
  You a little bit? Like your life is so contempt.
• 1:15:01
  Like it, you're so in love and happy that this is just see.
• 1:15:05
  This is what you post. Like, I call BS on that though
• 1:15:08
  because I feel like, if you genuinely were happy you
• 1:15:11
  wouldn't feel the need to tell the world about it.
• 1:15:13
  Over 5 seconds. I kind of get that you'd be too
• 1:15:16
  busy enjoying your life, you know.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, I do kind of get that lucky but was in love like
• 1:15:21
  genuinely in love with someone. My post that one photo like
• 1:15:27
  particular place, you know, we just, it's a good moment.
• 1:15:31
  I want to remember it. But I would probably keep image.
• 1:15:34
  Like, for instance, I have pictures of me and my
• 1:15:36
  ex-girlfriend like, quite a few that I didn't post on social
• 1:15:39
  media. And I still work obviously now,
• 1:15:42
  but I keep him as memories, you know, for me like and I don't
• 1:15:48
  know, maybe, maybe Maybe it's just cause I'm more reserved.
• 1:15:52
  When it comes to private life, I just believe in that.
• 1:15:54
  But at the same time, I don't know.
• 1:15:57
  Like, I feel like the more it's kind of like that expression,
• 1:16:01
  you protest too much. You know what I mean?
• 1:16:04
  I feel like it's, you know, you who you trying to prove this to,
• 1:16:08
  you know, you're happy. Yeah.
• 1:16:10
  Are you trying to prove it to me some random person?
• 1:16:12
  Like, I don't get it. They, maybe they reject.
• 1:16:15
  Maybe there are genuinely people that are just sharing everything
• 1:16:17
  because they want to, okay, fine.
• 1:16:19
  But I just Don't get that. I do not understand.
• 1:16:22
  I think they like the way that the reason I can kind of see it
• 1:16:26
  though that I can, I can appreciate it is, I mean, I
• 1:16:29
  can't speak for you, but I kind of do the same thing like, you
• 1:16:35
  know, like I'm posting content to YouTube.
• 1:16:38
  I might not be in the best state of mind at that point.
• 1:16:40
  But that's certainly not what you're going to see in that
• 1:16:42
  content. That's giving a see nurse
• 1:16:44
  presenting, the best us business.
• 1:16:47
  That's a product. That's the thing.
• 1:16:49
  That's different. Yeah, I suppose I suppose I know
• 1:16:52
  exactly what you mean and you're right, you're right.
• 1:16:54
  It is kind of okay well yeah you're right, you know the
• 1:16:57
  character almost isn't it? Not quite because it is you are
• 1:17:05
  presenting a certain aspect like they're not going to see the
• 1:17:09
  dode subject like, you know, how me and you would be in real life
• 1:17:12
  having a beer. It's not what people see on
• 1:17:14
  screen and it's not, because we're hiding anything, it's just
• 1:17:17
  it's you know, the real reason for that is it's just not
• 1:17:19
  interesting, it's not interesting.
• 1:17:21
  If I would just sit her book, that's not interesting.
• 1:17:27
  That's that's who wants to sit and watch that or listen to
• 1:17:29
  that. It's like I'm in pajamas like
• 1:17:32
  90% of the time if I'm not home but you know, the hatchlings
• 1:17:35
  don't see that clammy. I've always I'm always like, hey
• 1:17:39
  guys gonna got my hat on its energy that I'm going to break
• 1:17:42
  the illusion. You want to give your audience
• 1:17:44
  energy. That's what it is.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah, I've got a break this to the hatchlings right now and see
• 1:17:48
  your viewers as well. This only goes on for videos.
• 1:17:53
  I don't wear the hat normally but it's been lying to us all
• 1:17:58
  this time. You know what?
• 1:18:01
  Yeah, it's because I've come to realize like, so I'm a bit like
• 1:18:04
  obsessed with taking care of my hair.
• 1:18:06
  I'll be honest. The like my body routine and I
• 1:18:09
  really see through the hair. I rarely see you that wearing a
• 1:18:12
  hat actually, I've missed, I don't know, but it's obviously
• 1:18:16
  I've ruins my hair man. So I'm like, nope, if I'm going
• 1:18:21
  down to the shop. So I'm not wearing a hat now,
• 1:18:24
  for the night, like, in a nightclub, whatever, I will not
• 1:18:26
  be wearing the hat. I don't really work to work now
• 1:18:29
  anymore. Hmm.
• 1:18:30
  Yeah. See where to work.
• 1:18:32
  Do you wear like just smoke? Casual.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah, it's just completely casual.
• 1:18:36
  I swear to God every because the place I work at smart casual as
• 1:18:39
  well and it's a star B like, I swear it everywhere now is
• 1:18:43
  smart. Casual, I can't remember the
• 1:18:44
  last time his part from that business business that in this
• 1:18:47
  inner-city. I rarely ever see anyone that
• 1:18:48
  should stand up to the office and is, I think, I think we're
• 1:18:52
  definitely kind of hitting a generational shift in that
• 1:18:54
  whereas like obviously you have like your lawyers and your
• 1:18:58
  Bankers are kind of thing. You expect everyone to To be
• 1:19:00
  suited and booted, but then like, I think we're a lot of
• 1:19:03
  these managers are coming through right now is like, why
• 1:19:06
  would I put someone in essentially?
• 1:19:09
  What is a uniform when they're going to be much more
• 1:19:12
  comfortable, working in dinner? Whatever they choose to work it
• 1:19:16
  because that it does affect productivity.
• 1:19:19
  Like, if people are, just not comfortable, they're more
• 1:19:21
  productive. Like obviously there are
• 1:19:22
  examples, like if you're a UPS driver, for instance, say
• 1:19:26
  whatever uniforms, right? Or a firefighter or a police.
• 1:19:30
  Men or an ambulance with the I get that because that's clearly
• 1:19:33
  identifying what you are to the public, but things like I go and
• 1:19:37
  sit in an office all day and I don't interact with any one
• 1:19:42
  company facing do, you know, I mean, why do you need to wear a
• 1:19:45
  shirt and tie? What I mean, you know, I'm
• 1:19:48
  speaking for a male perspective, don't even get me started on the
• 1:19:52
  restrictions on what women have to wear in the, in the office
• 1:19:54
  workplace. It's absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:19:58
  And it's just like, What people wear their streets but somewhat,
• 1:20:02
  some of the things you've seen in offices.
• 1:20:04
  You oh, I know, you know, I've had some friends that have said
• 1:20:07
  they there's rules on heels and things that you have to wear
• 1:20:12
  heels. It's like you have to weigh.
• 1:20:14
  It has to wear heels. Like so you want to put your
• 1:20:16
  female workers through excruciating foot pain.
• 1:20:21
  Wow, 48 Hours 8 to 12 hours a day because they're in an office
• 1:20:25
  saying that's really selfish because apparently was some of
• 1:20:28
  the, some of those heels. Depending on the top of Hills,
• 1:20:31
  you have some of them are known to actually break bones in
• 1:20:34
  women's feet. Like it's actually a really,
• 1:20:36
  really bad for your feet. Exactly.
• 1:20:38
  I'd like I think as well. You have to put a bit of trust
• 1:20:41
  in your employees, like casual, like, wearing whatever you want
• 1:20:46
  to work, most people are still going to turn up looking
• 1:20:49
  presentable. But, you know, it's not like
• 1:20:52
  everyone's just going to be like, well, it's not like I'm
• 1:20:55
  going to come into the office in pajamas, your onesie ones, you
• 1:20:59
  know? I mean like it's just is common
• 1:21:02
  sense and I think a lot of companies now are starting to
• 1:21:05
  realize that and they're starting to say, you know what?
• 1:21:07
  Where were you want? Like I generally always try and
• 1:21:09
  buy some. It was Sonic on it from in the
• 1:21:11
  office just because why the hell not, you know, it's asleep.
• 1:21:15
  I just wrap that was out and I love the thing.
• 1:21:21
  It's a big statue every day. That's really sweet.
• 1:21:23
  So something is going to come out and see the video on that
• 1:21:26
  will come out. See where that's all being used.
• 1:21:28
  That's all been saved for something.
• 1:21:30
  Is that is that like okay, all right, well why don't you let us
• 1:21:33
  give us, put it. It's fun talking about it but
• 1:21:35
  yeah there is there is a video that's going to be coming out
• 1:21:38
  probably the 31st of December. Hmm.
• 1:21:42
  Which I believe at the moment is being just being called 2021 and
• 1:21:46
  those those images will be shown that because they've only really
• 1:21:50
  been shown to To my friends on Facebook.
• 1:21:53
  They have not been shared out really in like, Calamity
• 1:21:56
  Hatcher, UCI. Social medias.
• 1:21:58
  I forget like, because I have yours on Facebook, because,
• 1:22:01
  yeah, and it's I forget that what's public and what isn't and
• 1:22:06
  I'm like, that's why I asked you about this question earlier, the
• 1:22:08
  serious one because that's like, did does anyone know that?
• 1:22:11
  Is that okay to talk about? I don't know.
• 1:22:13
  Well, the hats things don't know about it but ah okay, right so
• 1:22:17
  we have it okay, you've spoiled the show you what What I keep if
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  you want to keep that in. So I can take that.
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  That's I don't mind, it's up to you.
• 1:22:25
  It's up to you boys, up to you. That's so I'm gonna fuck the
• 1:22:29
  flow of your editing, no sweat. No.
• 1:22:31
  I've had situations where I've had to edit stuff out before
• 1:22:35
  sometimes for legal, because there was so as a couple of had
• 1:22:37
  on the show Once who spoke about a newspaper that had put them in
• 1:22:42
  a difficult situation, let's put it that way, and they messaged
• 1:22:46
  me like a week later saying, hey, yeah, please take that out
• 1:22:49
  because they're threatening legal action.
• 1:22:51
  Wow, that's an easy edit that out, and delete it.
• 1:22:54
  And it's like, damn. So it's yeah.
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  And also like, I always want my guests to feel happy and
• 1:22:59
  comfortable and all that jazz, so that's yeah.
• 1:23:02
  No. Anyway, speaking of 2021, what
• 1:23:06
  have you learned from 2021? Do I make myself sound sappy on
• 1:23:14
  the on? Yes, yes, why the hell no okay,
• 1:23:17
  yeah I'm gonna take some pure inspiration from the some of the
• 1:23:21
  Hedgehog franchise as I talk about this.
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  No matter how ridiculous something seems no matter how in
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  the distance, you know how small something seems in your future.
• 1:23:40
  Just fucking believe in yourself and go for it. because, you
• 1:23:46
  know, I if you told me in the beginning of this year and the
• 1:23:50
  last year that, I'd be in this situation now.
• 1:23:55
  You're an idiot but I've never believed you for a second.
• 1:23:58
  And here I am at the end of the day and I'm literally living my
• 1:24:03
  best life right now. So, Do you know, just just keep
• 1:24:08
  running, people just grit your teeth and keep on running and
• 1:24:14
  eventually some good karma, will come around for you or at least
• 1:24:17
  I hope it will touch word that. Yeah, I, that's the biggest
• 1:24:22
  thing. I've learned just, it's quite
• 1:24:24
  funny because one of the things that I find myself saying to
• 1:24:28
  myself a lot I've really picked up on this.
• 1:24:32
  Is I give up but I will cut is probably one of my most said
• 1:24:36
  phrases if I'm just sitting there and I have like a bad
• 1:24:39
  thought and to my head or whatever, I'd rather give up
• 1:24:43
  just to myself, just match it to myself.
• 1:24:46
  And damn, I didn't give up. Even though I kept saying, I
• 1:24:50
  don't give up, I just didn't give up.
• 1:24:52
  That was almost like the gang it out of my system and not doing
• 1:24:55
  it. And now this is, this is what I
• 1:24:57
  learned about. You actually, from from having
• 1:24:59
  you as a friend and face, but I suppose, I should Stupid saying
• 1:25:02
  that like there are no Facebook that we actually know each
• 1:25:04
  other. We went to Scott high school
• 1:25:06
  together for years but anyway and 61 got my mind's gone blank
• 1:25:14
  for a second and just think about high school.
• 1:25:17
  Now I'm thinking about it says good never ran.
• 1:25:20
  I'm just thinking about to the day, when, when someone from our
• 1:25:24
  sixth form had had happened to be on TV and you decided to run
• 1:25:30
  it. Without them JB JB, JB.
• 1:25:38
  Yeah, JV, you know, he'd he ghosts me on Instagram actually
• 1:25:42
  offered to have him on my show and he just goes to me.
• 1:25:45
  He saw the message as in, he saw the message and didn't respond,
• 1:25:50
  and who is the worst kind of go? I would actually prefer, they
• 1:25:52
  just never saw it. If they see the message and
• 1:25:54
  ignore you, that's like AA also. And there was a girl, I won't
• 1:25:58
  say who who we went to school with who's now a very good?
• 1:26:01
  Singer. Apparently, she.
• 1:26:03
  Okay. See also saw my message, didn't
• 1:26:06
  respond. I'll tell you who they are off
• 1:26:08
  camera and I'm just like, wow, man.
• 1:26:12
  But we literally went to school together, like, you know, and
• 1:26:16
  okay, maybe for some people that doesn't mean shit, but I don't
• 1:26:18
  know. I think when you spend a lot of
• 1:26:19
  time with people in any capacity, it means something,
• 1:26:22
  you know. Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 1:26:25
  But yeah. Damn.
• 1:26:27
  Anyway. What yield goes for 2022.
• 1:26:34
  I, Haven't thought that far ahead.
• 1:26:41
  That's so weird in a month. Yeah, literally.
• 1:26:46
  It's just I'm still kind of Blown Away by everything that's
• 1:26:51
  that's happening at the moment and I'm still processing that
• 1:26:55
  day by day and I don't know where that's going to take me.
• 1:27:01
  I know next year will be a very big year for me in terms of
• 1:27:06
  content. Because we have something maybe
• 1:27:10
  to Sonic Prime on Netflix, Sonic Origins.
• 1:27:17
  Something Frontiers it's going to be a busy year in terms of
• 1:27:20
  content for me I'm going to have games and TV shows to cover.
• 1:27:23
  It's going to be awesome and I'm hoping that my career would say
• 1:27:30
  God will continue to develop as well as my relationship with
• 1:27:34
  them as a YouTuber, which is Growing in tandem with with
• 1:27:39
  working for them today ever. So kind of sauce you do they
• 1:27:44
  ever say anything about that? Do they know that you do this
• 1:27:46
  stuff? Yeah, so a lot of people in the
• 1:27:49
  company of come out here. So I loved your video.
• 1:27:52
  I saw your video about well it's a great.
• 1:27:54
  How much you enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it and the
• 1:27:57
  licensing. The guy that runs the licensing
• 1:28:00
  side of things, I'll show you quickly now.
• 1:28:02
  I see. So he gave me this the other
• 1:28:04
  day. I saw he was looking at some
• 1:28:07
  some merch. IDK, gave me this beautiful
• 1:28:10
  statue. Oh my God, that's so cool.
• 1:28:13
  Is this is the 30th Anniversary statue squares like 70 quid.
• 1:28:17
  He just gave it to me as well as the fact is anniversary mug, a
• 1:28:21
  brand new Sonic water bottles. That hasn't been released yet.
• 1:28:25
  I'm the first person in the UK to have one coul could be
• 1:28:29
  opening that one, but I'm not open it but showing it off in a
• 1:28:32
  video at some point of the next week.
• 1:28:34
  So my relationship is Flushing them.
• 1:28:37
  I was able to talk to them about things that I know that the
• 1:28:40
  community are really crying out for, in terms of merchandise and
• 1:28:43
  stuff like that. And I just hope to be able to
• 1:28:46
  continue developing that particularly as I become more
• 1:28:51
  adapted to, you know, the IT solutions Our Savior and how I
• 1:28:55
  can improve things for people through my tech support.
• 1:28:59
  I just really looking forward to exploring that opportunity as
• 1:29:03
  much as I can and still providing, you know, quality
• 1:29:07
  Sonic. Except for everyone, and it's so
• 1:29:10
  funny. Now that since I started working
• 1:29:13
  at Sega, what I consider the big boys in the Sonic YouTube seen,
• 1:29:19
  you know, you're 50 to 100K, subscribers range are all very
• 1:29:24
  aware of who I am now, and challenge me and stuff like
• 1:29:28
  that. And so, I just want to continue
• 1:29:31
  my standing as a Sonic Juba, improve my standing, as a
• 1:29:35
  general note, Uber And give me keep going with, with the
• 1:29:41
  streams in the, Smash Bros content.
• 1:29:43
  I feel like after all this time, I finally hit, like my god mode
• 1:29:49
  and smash a long time. He's no good ego at all.
• 1:29:54
  He's a colleague. I know.
• 1:29:55
  But it seems, I got an early smashes like that's it.
• 1:29:58
  I haven't you go now then but yeah.
• 1:30:01
  So I want to continue with the Smash Bros.
• 1:30:03
  I want to keep improving as a player and I you will be Seeing
• 1:30:09
  Calamity videos. Next year of me at local
• 1:30:13
  tournaments, I fully intend. So we can go and try and win
• 1:30:18
  some tournaments. Now, whether I'll ever get to a
• 1:30:21
  regional national International setting, probably not.
• 1:30:25
  But the best way to find out is to subscribe.
• 1:30:26
  So, you know, I love that. I love that.
• 1:30:30
  Yes, it's so ingrained in me, I love that.
• 1:30:34
  Yeah, go and subscribe, Calamity Hatcher on YouTube, you won't
• 1:30:37
  regret it. And go subscribe to this guy
• 1:30:40
  outside. This guys have already.
• 1:30:42
  He's thank you. As we draw things to a close
• 1:30:47
  when you've already mentioned, a few things.
• 1:30:48
  But yeah. Do you have any upcoming
• 1:30:49
  projects, or maybe some fun or thoughts that you'd like to
• 1:30:51
  leave our listeners with? So I was provided with something
• 1:30:56
  else from Sega, that is very, very cool.
• 1:31:02
  Christmassy themes is opened over 24 days.
• 1:31:07
  It's currently the 12th of December.
• 1:31:09
  So this this is being recorded every day and there will be a
• 1:31:15
  video on December 24th. So make sure to tune in for
• 1:31:19
  that. It's very cool.
• 1:31:20
  Absolutely. Loving it.
• 1:31:21
  I'll I'm just going to just going to like Sneak peek that
• 1:31:27
  I'm just going to pull that, right?
• 1:31:28
  Okay. So stay tuned for that.
• 1:31:32
  As I said I've got this video coming out on probably the
• 1:31:34
  safest December as well. I'm planning on it being quite
• 1:31:38
  like a big video. It's going to be talking a lot
• 1:31:42
  about what has happened this year and the position I'm now in
• 1:31:45
  and it's going to be quite. I feel I'm trying to take that
• 1:31:50
  core of the Sonic franchise that heartfelt, emotional.
• 1:31:53
  We can do anything with our friends.
• 1:31:55
  Like power Piggies this video and it's become a really
• 1:32:00
  awesome. There's some really cool
• 1:32:01
  cinematography going on with as well.
• 1:32:03
  So, I'm looking forward to people seeing that the Calamity
• 1:32:07
  Awards, the Calamity Awards will be happening again.
• 1:32:10
  It went out so well last because good, so stay tuned for the
• 1:32:15
  clammy Awards. We got some big ones to be given
• 1:32:18
  out this year. I will actually be sending out
• 1:32:22
  some stickers to some of the winners.
• 1:32:25
  Some Addict stickers because I can't afford to make your
• 1:32:28
  trophies but I can send you some Sonic stickers so, you know,
• 1:32:31
  they'll be getting out the figure so definitely worth
• 1:32:33
  watching and I guess, you know, I'm hopefully going to be going
• 1:32:38
  to the Sonic movie team from me. Oh yeah, February March,
• 1:32:43
  hopefully that'll be happening April, the phone will be coming
• 1:32:46
  out. So if you want to hear a Sonic
• 1:32:49
  fan, go absolutely nuts about Knuckles and everything else.
• 1:32:53
  Make sure you stick around for that.
• 1:32:55
  Is next year is going to be a huge one for the channel and
• 1:32:58
  open world Sonic game as well. The streams, man, the streams.
• 1:33:03
  There's going to be so really strange.
• 1:33:05
  So yeah, it's just going to be. There is some content to come
• 1:33:09
  up. Look forward to.
• 1:33:10
  I have some very, very, very big Sonic videos that will be coming
• 1:33:15
  out next year. I'm just sorting out scheduling
• 1:33:19
  with other people. Big people.
• 1:33:22
  So I'm sure you can imagine what that might entail.
• 1:33:26
  I've been very lucky to chat to Roger Craig Smith, the voice of
• 1:33:29
  Sonic before so You know, there's a couple of the voice
• 1:33:33
  actors in there. There's some people that have
• 1:33:35
  contributed, a lot of music to this franchise that people love.
• 1:33:38
  So interesting, things are in the works.
• 1:33:40
  Things are in the works. I promise you.
• 1:33:42
  And of course, these fan animations that are going to be
• 1:33:45
  coming out next year. So I'm going to be all over
• 1:33:48
  that. That's Sadiq periphery you like,
• 1:33:51
  but I want to get to that point where you can't think about some
• 1:33:53
  of the hedgehog without thinking about Calamity had your so yeah.
• 1:33:57
  Sit, stay tuned, guys, because there is there is a lot of stuff
• 1:33:59
  coming and also hopefully Got some plans to assure you co.labs
• 1:34:04
  with a few different YouTubers, which we need to talk about some
• 1:34:07
  point as well because I'm looking you on the clammy had to
• 1:34:09
  channel. I'm too familiar on here.
• 1:34:12
  You need to come over to clammy. Hands are full.
• 1:34:15
  Yeah, stick around plenty of stuff to come.
• 1:34:18
  Very exciting Place. Well, this is it's always a
• 1:34:20
  pleasure to have you on the show the fifth time, no less.
• 1:34:23
  So everyone else, make sure you go check out with Jax previous
• 1:34:28
  appearances on the show. Very proud of you.
• 1:34:30
  Thank you so much for being on the show.
• 1:34:33
  Best of luck and yeah, see you real soon.
• 1:34:35
  My friend. Thank you Rose.
• 1:34:37
  Thank you so much. Is always an honor to come on
• 1:34:39
  here. I genuinely love my time on
• 1:34:40
  here. And you're amazing guys.
• 1:34:43
  Give this guy all the support he can because he really deserves
• 1:34:45
  it. Thanks man.
• 1:34:47
  And to all the listeners of the Christian, we podcast be safe,
• 1:34:51
  be well, and I'll see you in the next one.