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Mental Health Matters Renew Your Mind, Renew Your Life - EP-020 - Suicide Awareness · Mental Health Matters - Overcomers.tv

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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to another episode of Mental Health Matters. Renew
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  Speaker 2: your mind. Renew your life.
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  Speaker 3: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Trudy Simmons on with us today.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see you, Pastor Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Episode 20 today is Suicide Awareness Month,
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  Speaker 2: so we thought we should and could talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: And for those listening to podcasts later, you can go
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  Speaker 2: to trudysimmons.com. That will get you to her website. And
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  Speaker 2: she also hosts the Christian View, 270 episodes or plus
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  Speaker 2: or more. Yeah, now we do the Zoom and all that.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a lot going on, a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: But for the benefit of our viewers, tell us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I live in Atlanta, and it's really hot here today.
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  Speaker 4: I have been married 30 years this coming August. I mean, April. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I can talk. Let's start over. I live in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: and it's hot. And I've been married almost 30 years
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  Speaker 4: this April. I have a 20 year old son and
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  Speaker 4: a 10 year old daughter. I have a counseling and
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  Speaker 4: coaching practice here in Atlanta. And I did the Christian
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  Speaker 4: view for 10 years, 10, 10 seasons. And I'm an
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  Speaker 4: avid athlete. I trained for Ironmans and endurance races and
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  Speaker 4: happy to be alive and fit and love Jesus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you do counseling, right? So coaching. Yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Holy Spirit's a good coach too, but he uses people.
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  Speaker 2: He speaks through, works through people. I always, I know
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  Speaker 2: we know a lot about Bluetooth technology now, and I
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  Speaker 2: always ask God to pair with some vocal cords around
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  Speaker 2: me to put some words in the air that I
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  Speaker 2: might need to hear. Yeah. And that kind of ties
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  Speaker 2: into suicide awareness because we know the devil has a
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  Speaker 2: voice and and tries to whisper in our ear or
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  Speaker 2: attempt in lots of different ways. John 10, 10, right?
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  Speaker 2: The enemy came to steal, kill, and destroy. Jesus came
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  Speaker 2: to give life, life abundantly. Your thoughts on some of that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, honestly, that is my favorite, my
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  Speaker 4: favorite scripture, John 10, 10, because the enemy does come
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  Speaker 4: to steal, kill, and destroy, but it says, I, Christ,
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  Speaker 4: have come. Part of that is having that sound mind
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  Speaker 4: that we are, that, has to have because we have
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  Speaker 4: the mind of Christ, but the enemy wants to come
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  Speaker 4: in and wreak havoc in our minds, you know, through unforgiveness,
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  Speaker 4: through bitterness, through trauma, you know, through abuse and learning
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  Speaker 4: how to take those thoughts captive to the obedience of
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  Speaker 4: Christ and understanding that he has given us everything we
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  Speaker 4: need for this life, you know, to be prosperous. And
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  Speaker 4: we talk about prosperous. It's not about, I'm not talking
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  Speaker 4: about your bank account. I'm talking about what's going on
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  Speaker 4: in your heart, your mind, your soul, and your body.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And it all works together, body, soul,
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  Speaker 2: and spirit. We say we have a triune God, the Father,
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  Speaker 2: the Son, the Holy Spirit, and there's me, myself, and I,
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  Speaker 2: which is the unholy trinity. And it's all about me, right?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, at the end of the day, we need
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  Speaker 2: to listen and hear God's voice. I do want to
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  Speaker 2: share one scripture. And again, this is a difference between
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  Speaker 2: Christianity and I want to encourage people again, check out, uh, trudysimmons.com. Just, uh,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of great, a lot of great interviews and
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  Speaker 2: panel discussions as well as some one-on-ones. Um, and of
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  Speaker 2: course we can invite, uh, Trudy to speak at your church,
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  Speaker 2: your women's conference. Um, so there's a way to do counseling, coaching,
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  Speaker 2: and also get to the Christian view and see some
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  Speaker 2: of the, episodes there as well. There's just a lot
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  Speaker 2: going on. But in Romans 8, the whole book of
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  Speaker 2: Romans is amazing. I would just say it was written
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  Speaker 2: a little over 20 years after the conversion of Saul
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  Speaker 2: at 35 AD. So it was written, they say, about
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  Speaker 2: maybe 56 AD during his third missionary trip. So he
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  Speaker 2: kind of gives us a mature overall view of what
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  Speaker 2: the gospel is. But in chapter eight, there's so many
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  Speaker 2: great verses. The first one, there's no condemnation for those
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  Speaker 2: who are in Christ Jesus. And we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that a lot. Christ in you, the hope of glory.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in Jesus and he's in you, you should
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  Speaker 2: have the Holy Spirit in you. There's no condemnation. That's
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  Speaker 2: really strong. That's like hell talk. Condemnation is hell and
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  Speaker 2: condemnation versus conviction and guilt. maybe even struggle with shame,
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  Speaker 2: which could cause someone to want to end their life.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start there. Um, some thoughts there and we'll
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  Speaker 2: kind of work through Romans eight a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think you mentioned shame. I mean, the difference
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  Speaker 4: between shame and guilt, right? Shame is I am bad
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  Speaker 4: or I am wrong. Guilt is I did something bad
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  Speaker 4: or I, um, or some, you know, I did something bad.
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  Speaker 4: So when you, when you're walking in shame and I
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  Speaker 4: even think condemnation, it's a direct attack on your identity. Um,
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  Speaker 4: and who you are. And so that in and of
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  Speaker 4: itself will weigh you down so much, which can, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: lead to suicidal thoughts, suicide attempts, because you're walking around
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  Speaker 4: feeling that you are a, you are bad. And that
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  Speaker 4: feeling of that, of feeling bad will weigh anybody down.
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  Speaker 4: I He will gently correct us. He will have that
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  Speaker 4: conviction in our heart, but He's not going to condemn us.
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  Speaker 4: He's not going to shame us. He's going to try
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  Speaker 4: to encourage us to walk in that freedom that He
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  Speaker 4: has given us from the cross.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's good. And as we go through
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  Speaker 2: this chapter, it continues to say that if we don't
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  Speaker 2: walk according to the flesh... but according to the spirit.
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  Speaker 2: And some will stop there and say, well, if you
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  Speaker 2: do something fleshly, you're walking according to the flesh, but
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  Speaker 2: according to the spirit. And you got to keep reading.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime you take one verse and take the word text
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  Speaker 2: out of context, you're left with con. So keep reading
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  Speaker 2: verses before and after, right? So for we, he goes
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  Speaker 2: on to say in verse nine, but you are not
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  Speaker 2: in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed, the
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  Speaker 2: Spirit of God dwells in you. So this is the
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  Speaker 2: difference of Christianity, the Holy Spirit in you. So you're
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  Speaker 2: not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the
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  Speaker 2: Spirit dwells in you. Now, if anyone does not have
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  Speaker 2: the Spirit of Christ, he's not his. And if Christ
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  Speaker 2: is in you, the body is dead because of sin,
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  Speaker 2: but the Spirit is light because of righteousness. Verse 11,
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  Speaker 2: but if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from
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  Speaker 2: the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ from
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  Speaker 2: the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies
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  Speaker 2: through His Spirit who dwells in you. So this dwells
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  Speaker 2: in you is like three times. So let's just set
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  Speaker 2: the record straight. If somebody listening to us right now
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  Speaker 2: is struggling with suicide, ask Holy Spirit to come in.
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  Speaker 2: Come in my heart. Come in my mind. Come in
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  Speaker 2: my body. I want to be a temple of the
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  Speaker 2: Holy Spirit. Live in me. This is the one distinction
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  Speaker 2: between Christianity and every religion in the world is that
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  Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit of the creator God wants to live
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  Speaker 2: in you. Take it from there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, with the Holy Spirit living in us
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  Speaker 4: and working through us, we can walk through even the
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  Speaker 4: most difficult, darkest hours. And so for those who may
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  Speaker 4: be contemplating suicide and they may even say, well, I am,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I am a believer. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: want you to call out to Jesus even more and
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  Speaker 4: just say, you know, I need you like never before
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  Speaker 4: because we can't do life on our own strength, Pastor Chuck.
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  Speaker 4: We all need the power of the Holy Spirit working
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  Speaker 4: in and through us. And for those who may be
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  Speaker 4: thinking about suicide, tomorrow is always a better day. Put
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  Speaker 4: your hope in Jesus, not in your circumstances, not in
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  Speaker 4: what's happening today, but in Jesus Christ and tomorrow will
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  Speaker 4: be a better day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: On your show, um, There was a little thing I
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  Speaker 2: tried to show before it went away, but it was
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  Speaker 2: miracles just ahead. It was like a little road sign.
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  Speaker 2: You showed on one of your episodes. And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You are really potentially just a moment away from a miracle.
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  Speaker 2: And a miracle is obviously defined with, you know, God
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  Speaker 2: did it. It's like naturally it's supernatural, usually a miracle
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  Speaker 2: outside of the normal laws of physics. So the textbook
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  Speaker 2: definition of miracle, God showing up, And I've heard someone say,
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  Speaker 2: and it really helped me, even when I was miserable
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  Speaker 2: or going through a tough spot, I've heard someone say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: when you're down to nothing, God is up to something.
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  Speaker 4: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: That just started breeding faith in my spirit. Like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? I am down to nothing. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm at my wit's end, but maybe God is up
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  Speaker 2: to something and he's going to break through any minute.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: No, because he always shows up. He always shows up.
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  Speaker 4: You know, They say that if you don't feel God's presence,
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  Speaker 4: it's because we've walked away, not not him leaving. And so,
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  Speaker 4: you know, let's just say that you are a believer
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  Speaker 4: and you're struggling with suicide. Maybe you have a sin
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  Speaker 4: in your life that you haven't been able to overcome yet.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the enemy would want you to say, well,
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  Speaker 4: I need to walk away from God because Christianity is
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  Speaker 4: not working for me or I just got to I
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  Speaker 4: can't stand this life anymore. So, you know, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to take the next step, which is suicide. you know,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to make sure that we aren't relying on
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  Speaker 4: our own strength. We are relying on the power of
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  Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit and we can overcome sin. But the
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  Speaker 4: enemy wants you to feel stuck in whatever situation you
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  Speaker 4: are in that looks dark. But God can come and
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  Speaker 4: work even in the 11th hour. I think that miracle
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  Speaker 4: was with, oh, she's a pastor and I can't remember
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  Speaker 4: her name, but she had been walking through a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different issues. And she was like, I just need
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  Speaker 4: God to show up. I just need him to show up.
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  Speaker 4: And she just cried out And, you know, and sometimes he's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he'll show up in so many different ways
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  Speaker 4: through a phone call, through a verse, through something on
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  Speaker 4: TV or now social media. But God will always show
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  Speaker 4: up when we cry out to him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. That's so true. And for those that may not
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  Speaker 2: have noticed, I just put a QR code on the
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  Speaker 2: top left corner. That'll bring you right to Trudy's website, TrudySimmons.com. Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Trudy Simmons.com. Don't put that in the website though, but
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  Speaker 2: she's earned it. She deserves it. And I appreciate your
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  Speaker 2: insights because after the fact, suicide awareness is just one
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  Speaker 2: of those things. We were thinking about the title and
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking understanding suicide. I'm like, nobody can understand it.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. Your whole life, you're scared of
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  Speaker 2: the boogeyman. You know, you're looking both ways before you
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  Speaker 2: cross the street. Stranger, stranger, danger, danger, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: we're trying to stay alive. And now all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden you're your worst enemy. It's you and you're you
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  Speaker 2: by yourself and you're in bad company. And you're the
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  Speaker 2: one that might take your own life. Nobody can wrap
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  Speaker 2: their head around this, which tells me it's demonic. It's demonic, demonic,
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  Speaker 2: which we may want to jump to Ephesians 6. But
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  Speaker 2: while I'm going there, you want to add some thoughts
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  Speaker 2: to that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, again, it goes back to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the enemy wants you to feel like there's no hope.
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  Speaker 4: He wants you to feel like you're a failure. that
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  Speaker 4: things are never going to change. I mean, I've sat
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  Speaker 4: next to people in the counseling office and they're like,
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  Speaker 4: is it ever going to get better? You know, is
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  Speaker 4: it ever going to change? And the answer is yes,
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  Speaker 4: it is going to change. So God has given us tools.
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  Speaker 4: He's given us guidelines on how to walk in freedom.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of times though, Pastor Chuck, we stay stuck with,
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  Speaker 4: because we're so used to the familiar. It feels better
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  Speaker 4: to feel this way than to allow myself to get
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  Speaker 4: excited or to feel hopeful again or to dream again.
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  Speaker 4: It feels more common to stay in that state of
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  Speaker 4: depression or guilt or condemnation instead of allowing yourself to
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  Speaker 4: rise above that. I heard someone say we all have
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  Speaker 4: an emotional home, and that's where we always go back to.
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  Speaker 4: If you're prone to negativity, if you're prone to complaining,
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  Speaker 4: or even if you're prone to more of a depression state.
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  Speaker 4: That's your home state. But you know what? We can
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  Speaker 4: change homes, right? Just like in the natural, we move homes.
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  Speaker 4: We can change that by the renewing of our mind
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  Speaker 4: on God's word and trying to find, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: can find one thing to be thankful for. We can
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  Speaker 4: find one thing to be hopeful for. We can find
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  Speaker 4: one thing to be grateful for and find that and
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  Speaker 4: focus on that because the enemy, again, wants you to
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  Speaker 4: stay focused on on the negativity and the circumstance of
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  Speaker 4: the situation that you're in.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. That's true. Let's unpack Ephesians 6. Finally, my brethren,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a letter to the church in Ephesus, chapter 6. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the
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  Speaker 2: power of his might. So we need to access that
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  Speaker 2: power of the spirit that dwells in us that Paul
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  Speaker 2: was talking in the book of Romans. Put on the
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  Speaker 2: whole armor of God. And I want you to see
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  Speaker 2: something that you may be able to stand Against the
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  Speaker 2: wiles of the devil. Right? And it goes on, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to pop through it. For we do
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  Speaker 2: not wrestle against flesh and blood. So imagine you're wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: But against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of
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  Speaker 2: this age. Against spiritual hosts of wickedness. It's what we
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  Speaker 2: call demonology. In heavenly places. That's who we're wrestling with.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes, therefore, take up the whole armor of
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  Speaker 2: God that you may be able to withstand in the
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  Speaker 2: evil day, having done all to stand. And then verse 14, stand, therefore,
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  Speaker 2: and he starts going through. So that word stand pops
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  Speaker 2: out almost four times. In the middle of 11, be
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  Speaker 2: able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Take
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  Speaker 2: up the whole that you may be able to withstand
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  Speaker 2: in the evil day, having done all to stand. Stand, therefore.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he's trying to drive a point home here?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes the best thing you can do is just stand.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think so. I mean, God in his goodness
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  Speaker 4: knew that we have an enemy and that enemy was
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  Speaker 4: going to try to take us out. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 4: Pastor Chuck, we can be Christians and be unfruitful and
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  Speaker 4: we can stay stuck, right? And if we do that
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  Speaker 4: this side of heaven, then the enemy's won. But God
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  Speaker 4: has given us like that, like Ephesians says, every tool
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  Speaker 4: to stand against. But I think we have to recognize
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  Speaker 4: that it is the enemy. It's not your situation. It's
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  Speaker 4: not your spouse. It's not your kids. It's not your job.
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  Speaker 4: It's the enemy that is coming against you. And if
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  Speaker 4: we understand who's coming against us, we really will understand
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  Speaker 4: how to fight the right way. I can't hear you.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, mental health matters. You know, it's a spinoff on, um,
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  Speaker 2: blue lives matter. Black lives matter. All lives matter to
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  Speaker 2: God because he made everything. But what we think about
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  Speaker 2: really matters. And that's why we say, renew your mind,
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  Speaker 2: renew your life. And, uh, that, you know, just to
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  Speaker 2: kind of jump over to a couple other verses, um,
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  Speaker 2: In Philippians, and we'll probably talk about this on every
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  Speaker 2: single show, because this really is the best advice. In
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  Speaker 2: Philippians 4, where Paul wrote a letter to the church
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  Speaker 2: in Philippi, there's a couple things, starting in 6 and
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  Speaker 2: through 8. It's just paramount. Because again, anxiety, depression, all
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  Speaker 2: those are kind of from the same root, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Verse 6, be anxious for nothing, and just saying that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make it go in a way. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: it go away. But in everything, not for everything, in
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  Speaker 2: everything by prayer and supplications, with thanksgiving, just start thanking
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  Speaker 2: God for some stuff. Thank him for your dog, your cat.
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  Speaker 2: Thank him for the chair that you're sitting on. Thank
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  Speaker 2: him for your shoelaces. Just start thanking him for stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Let your requests be made known to God. God, I
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  Speaker 2: need your help. Start talking to him. I need this.
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  Speaker 2: I need you to help me change the way I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking right now. And the peace of God, that's what
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  Speaker 2: we're lacking. That's what we want, which surpasses all understandings.
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  Speaker 2: even in the midst of a stage four cancer diagnosis.
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  Speaker 2: I got a piece about it. God's going to take
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  Speaker 2: care of it. If not, I get to go to heaven.
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  Speaker 2: It's a promotion. I mean, that's just the way God
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  Speaker 2: might put it on your heart. That doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 2: to the world, but God give you peace that surpasses
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  Speaker 2: all understanding. It'll guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: These are the first two verses. And for people like
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  Speaker 2: you and I that are trying to counsel, this is
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  Speaker 2: the prescription. If you're going to go to the doctor
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  Speaker 2: and want a prescription, If you go to biblical counseling
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  Speaker 2: or Christian, this is your prescription. Let's get in, reapply this,
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  Speaker 2: rethink through this. Let's start doing this. Your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, it's true. It's be anxious for nothing,
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  Speaker 4: but in everything by prayer and petition. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of times we go to the phone
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  Speaker 4: before we go to the throne, right? We go to
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  Speaker 4: call people and get them to kind of rally with
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  Speaker 4: us with whatever anxiety we're going through or whatever stress
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  Speaker 4: we're going through instead of first going to to prayer
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  Speaker 4: and petition and making sure first, you know, that our
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  Speaker 4: hearts are right, that our motives are right. And it's
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  Speaker 4: fine to go to counseling. It's fine to call a friend,
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  Speaker 4: but make sure that you are bathing it in prayer
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  Speaker 4: first and foremost, because you can get how many different,
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  Speaker 4: you can call five different people, get five different opinions
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  Speaker 4: and five different advice. But if you go to the
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  Speaker 4: word of God, he's going to give you exactly what
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  Speaker 4: you need.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Proverbs three, five and six, trust in the Lord with
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  Speaker 2: all your heart. And lean not on your own understanding.
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  Speaker 2: In all your ways, acknowledge him and he'll direct your path.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do that, he'll never tell you to
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  Speaker 2: kill yourself. That's the voice of the devil. So learning
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  Speaker 2: how to distinguish the voice. Not every thought I have
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  Speaker 2: is the voice of God. So this is where talking
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  Speaker 2: with other Christians about what you're thinking. If there are
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  Speaker 2: Christians like, look, I don't think that's from above. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's from below. Wisdom from above is first peaceable, pure,
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  Speaker 2: full of mercy, willing to yield. And the other is demonic, sensual.
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  Speaker 2: So even there's a verse in James which talks about
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  Speaker 2: where wisdom or where it's coming from, above or below.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so, again, suicide awareness, people, by what they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of get in it. Out of the
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  Speaker 2: abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. So we need
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  Speaker 2: to really be listening to what people are talking about,
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  Speaker 2: which helps us say, are they on a track? Were
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  Speaker 2: they committing, contemplating, committing suicide? And in this, after verses
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  Speaker 2: six and seven, for the math majors out there, is
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  Speaker 2: verse eight. Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things
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  Speaker 2: are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure,
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  Speaker 2: whatever things are lovely, Jesus said, blessed are the pure
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  Speaker 2: in heart, for they shall see God.
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  Speaker 3: Purity.
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  Speaker 2: You got to purify what you're looking at, what you're
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  Speaker 2: thinking about. Whatever things are lovely, whatever things are a
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  Speaker 2: good report, not the negative, not the gossip, not the
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  Speaker 2: you can't believe what he said or did. If there's
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  Speaker 2: a good report, if there's any virtue, anything praiseworthy, meditate
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  Speaker 2: on these things. And the things you learned, received, and
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  Speaker 2: heard and saw in me, in your pastor, in your
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  Speaker 2: spiritual mentors, the things you heard, learned, and received and
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  Speaker 2: saw in them, If you do these things, the peace
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  Speaker 2: of God will be with you. So he gives us
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  Speaker 2: the exact remedy. What we're meditating on. Noble. Whatever things
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  Speaker 2: are just. Whatever things are pure. But start with whatever
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  Speaker 2: are true. Right. Whatever is true. What if-ing. What if
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  Speaker 2: this happens? What if that happens? You're not meditating on
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  Speaker 2: what's true. Because it's a what if. It's not true.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Cling to what you know. Your turn.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the what ifs will just... cause
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  Speaker 4: that anxiety to come or the depression to come because
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  Speaker 4: we're so focused on the what ifs, the could ifs,
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  Speaker 4: the should ifs that we're not really focused on what
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  Speaker 4: is really actually true. And you know, the enemy, the
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  Speaker 4: devil is the father of lies and he is going
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  Speaker 4: to bombard you with one lie after another lie after
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  Speaker 4: another lie. And those lies can seem real in the
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  Speaker 4: midst of what's going on. But if you go back
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  Speaker 4: to what is true, what is just, what is right,
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  Speaker 4: what does the word say about the situation that then
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  Speaker 4: the truth, it says, what does it say? You shall
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  Speaker 4: know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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  Speaker 4: But sometimes it's easier, especially when you're right in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the thickness of the situation, it's easier to
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  Speaker 4: believe a lie than it is to believe a truth.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why having solid people in your life and
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  Speaker 4: praying will help you decipher between the truth versus the lie.
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  Speaker 2: What's true is God loves you and so do I.
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  Speaker 2: You may not feel loved right now, but the truth
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  Speaker 2: is you are loved valued highly regarded and um but
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  Speaker 2: yeah and so that was john 8 32 and he
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  Speaker 2: says the truth you'll know the truth that truth will
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  Speaker 2: set you free a little later uh in john 14
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  Speaker 2: 6 he said i am the way the truth so
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  Speaker 2: jesus says i am truth so focusing on jesus is
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  Speaker 2: really focusing on truth and again i don't want to
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  Speaker 2: overly simplify because that's really that simple looking unto Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: the author and the finisher of our faith. That's Hebrews 12, 2.
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  Speaker 2: So what we're looking at, what we're meditating on, looking
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  Speaker 2: at Jesus, focusing on talking to Jesus, praying to Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: praying to God in Jesus' name, Holy Spirit, lead me,
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  Speaker 2: guide me. These are basic, basic, basic principles for a
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  Speaker 2: Christian who's learning how to walk, like a toddler who's
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  Speaker 2: learning how to walk. We're going to fall down. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to bump into some furniture. We might have to
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  Speaker 2: childproof the room Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you're going to cry. You're going to spill your milk.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, things are life. It says in scripture that
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  Speaker 4: in this life, we will have trials and we will
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  Speaker 4: have tribulation. We will have trouble. And that's to be expected.
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  Speaker 4: But he also goes on to say, but be of
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  Speaker 4: good cheer. I have overcome this life. And so you
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  Speaker 4: may be feeling alone. You may be feeling hopeless. You
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  Speaker 4: may be feeling isolated or forgotten. But as you said,
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  Speaker 4: Pastor Chuck, God never leaves us nor forsakes us. Never
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  Speaker 4: once have we had to walk alone unless we've chosen
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  Speaker 4: to step away from the Father. And so if you
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  Speaker 4: do feel like, you know, you're all alone and there's
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  Speaker 4: no way out, I want you to know that there
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  Speaker 4: is a way out. And that is through Jesus Christ,
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  Speaker 4: that it is through that relationship with him. Life may
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  Speaker 4: be hard right now, but you know what? The sun's
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  Speaker 4: going to come up tomorrow and you're going to be
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  Speaker 4: able to make it through another day because of Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Amen to that. Amen to.
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  Speaker 2: Come on. Bad spelling. Bad spelling. Hello. My fingers and
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  Speaker 2: my brain aren't working. In this world, you will have tribulation.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe without the S. Is it John? I'm thinking John 16... Yeah, 1633.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking 44. There was no 44. There it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a great verse. These things I have spoken to you,
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  Speaker 2: that in me you may have peace. There it is.
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  Speaker 2: In me you may have peace. In this world you
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  Speaker 2: will have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I've overcome
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  Speaker 2: the world. So I saw a bumper sticker that says,
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  Speaker 2: know Jesus, know peace. If you know, K-N-O-W, know Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: you'll know peace.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Again, it's really that simple. And again, praying for the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: peace of Israel. There'll be no peace for Israel without
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  Speaker 2: their Messiah. Those that have rejected Jesus to Messiah, they
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  Speaker 2: should be very afraid because they rejected the offer of salvation.
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  Speaker 2: It was for the Jew first, still for the Jew first.
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  Speaker 2: God has no favoritism at all for Israel without Messiah.
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  Speaker 2: They're broken off. The wrath of God abides on those
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  Speaker 2: who don't have the Son of God. Israel's not that special.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the world, God loves the whole world equally.
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  Speaker 2: And he gave Jesus and whoever received Jesus is part
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  Speaker 2: of the body of Messiah. So this whole, even Iran,
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  Speaker 2: Israel thing, people taking sides, Jesus didn't come to take sides.
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  Speaker 2: He came to take over, take over your life to
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  Speaker 2: Lord your life lead. And the perfect, most perfect way,
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  Speaker 2: like a perfect heavenly father would lead your wife, not
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  Speaker 2: an abusive father, And there's been some husbands that maybe
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  Speaker 2: bossed you around and you might've had some bad bosses,
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  Speaker 2: but Jesus is the greatest boss. But this is why
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  Speaker 2: he says in me, you're going to have peace. And
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  Speaker 2: without Jesus, there is no peace. So let's get back
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  Speaker 2: to the basics. That's why we preach the gospel. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think we, we, we complicate it sometimes,
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  Speaker 4: don't we? But it says in, in me, you will
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  Speaker 4: have peace, not in your job, not in your family,
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  Speaker 4: you know, your husband, your wife, not in your bank
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  Speaker 4: account in me, you will have peace. All the other
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  Speaker 4: stuff is just added unto us because of his goodness
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  Speaker 4: and his graciousness. And so when we have our focus
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  Speaker 4: on those other things, that's when, yeah, we, we, we
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  Speaker 4: start to lose our peace and we, we have peace
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of a storm. We can, as long
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  Speaker 4: as we're, you know, we know who our anchor is. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's, it's easy. This world, um, can trip
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  Speaker 4: us up like nobody's business, but we're not, this is,
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  Speaker 4: we're just passing through and we have to hold onto
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  Speaker 4: it lightly and every life matters. And so anybody struggling,
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  Speaker 4: you have to know that your life matters and Jesus
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  Speaker 4: died on the cross for you so that you could
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  Speaker 4: walk in the fullness of what he has for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, and again, end times, it's part of end
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  Speaker 2: time stuff. Um, and, uh, And that'll drive people to like,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to be here anymore. I get it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: You know, what's going on in the world. Matthew 24,
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  Speaker 2: he talks about, you know, all this stuff. And, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: but he's talking about his plan. You know, there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be nations. He says, you'll hear of wars, rumors
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: of wars. See to it that you're not troubled. All
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  Speaker 2: these things must come to pass, but the end is
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  Speaker 2: not yet. Nations against nations, kingdom against kingdoms, famines, pestilences, earthquakes,
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  Speaker 2: various places. All these are the beginnings of sorrows. So
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  Speaker 2: he's not pulling any punches. He's like, these are going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. But make sure, let not your heart be troubled,
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  Speaker 2: John 14. And that's, again, the beginning of going down
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  Speaker 2: that road. Like, I don't even want to be here anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But knowing God has the plan, he has a purpose
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  Speaker 2: for you in your life. That's the hope that we give.
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  Speaker 2: Great show. It's amazing how quick 30 minutes fly by
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  Speaker 2: and we run through a lot of verses. You're amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. It's fun. I enjoy being on here. So
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  Speaker 4: thank you for the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so awesome. I'd love for you to lead our
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  Speaker 2: viewers in prayer and I'll close. Sound good?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: So Father, we thank you that your word does never
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  Speaker 4: return void. Lord, we thank you that you are King
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  Speaker 4: of Kings and Lord of Lords and the great I am. Father,
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  Speaker 4: anybody who is struggling right now with any suicidal thoughts
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  Speaker 4: or tendencies, Father, I just ask that you just show
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  Speaker 4: up in a mighty way where that they will have
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: a supernatural energy encounter with you, Lord, that rocks their
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: world and changes their life. Father God, I pray that
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  Speaker 4: they will feel seen, heard, known, and loved by you
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  Speaker 4: like never before. And we just thank you for your
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  Speaker 4: word that it never returns void.
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  Speaker 1: In the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. And Lord, I do pray for wisdom and discernment
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  Speaker 2: for us that may be in contact or toe-to-toe with
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  Speaker 2: someone who's thinking about it. And you know what they're
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: thinking about. I pray you'd give us a word of wisdom,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: word of knowledge to know who to talk to and
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  Speaker 2: who to love on and, again, help them get their mind,
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  Speaker 2: their spirit focused on you the wills, the plan you
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  Speaker 2: have for their life that would get them excited and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: just breathe life into their spirit. And pray for that
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: person right now who's even alone, that your Holy Spirit
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: would just interrupt their thoughts and just reveal yourself to them.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in time together to talk about
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: this very, very important topic. And may it go far
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  Speaker 2: and wide and do what it's meant to do to
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  Speaker 2: inspire others in Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 4: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 4: Amen. Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Have a great day. With the
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Chuck. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 2: It feels wrong even just saying that, but, you know,
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