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"25th Anniversary LIVE from Flight 93 Memorial" (FTTxJT Fri 091126 hr1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Making mornings great again. First thing today on the Talk
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  Speaker 1: Media Network by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Joe works at the steel mill, works damn near every day.
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  Speaker 2: Leaves for work when the sun comes up, drops the kids.
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  Speaker 3: To school and on the way.
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  Speaker 4: Joe has everything he dreamed of, all the treasures that
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  Speaker 4: he needs.
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  Speaker 5: No wonder Joe's always smiling, he only.
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  Speaker 6: Aims to please you.
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  Speaker 7: Let me be your Joe.
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  Speaker 8: Bless you for letting me be of service to you.
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  Speaker 6: I want to be your Joe.
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  Speaker 8: On this September 11th morning.
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  Speaker 9: What the.
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  Speaker 1: Hell was that?
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  Speaker 7: It's not like a plane crash.
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  Speaker 10: Immediately there's speculation or cause for concern. This is the
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  Speaker 10: World Trade Center that was the center of a terrorist
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  Speaker 10: bombing some years ago. So the questions have to be asked,
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  Speaker 10: was this purely an accident or could this have been
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  Speaker 10: an intentional act? But either way, extensive damage.
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  Speaker 8: What's this other jet doing?
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  Speaker 6: What's this other jet doing?
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  Speaker 11: Holy fuck!
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  Speaker 8: That is the sound.
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  Speaker 4: Six, seven floors were taken out.
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  Speaker 8: And there's more explosions right now. Hold on, people are running.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on just a moment.
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  Speaker 12: We've got an explosion inside.
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  Speaker 13: The building's exploding right now.
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  Speaker 4: You've got people running up the street.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 15: Another plane has just hit another building.
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  Speaker 10: Flew right into the middle of it.
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  Speaker 16: Explosion.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: It's right in the middle of the building.
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  Speaker 8: That's what a well-planned terror attack sounds like as it
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  Speaker 8: plays out 25 years ago. Yes, kids, we could record
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  Speaker 8: back then. We had running water and indoor plumbing. I
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  Speaker 8: know it doesn't seem like it, but that's what it
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  Speaker 8: sounded like 25 years ago when with all the intent
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  Speaker 8: and planning that The mastermind pretends that he didn't have
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  Speaker 8: anything to do with after claiming credit for it in
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  Speaker 8: an American court. One plane was thrown into a building
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  Speaker 8: just in time for all the news networks in New York.
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  Speaker 8: That's why they chose New York, where the news shows
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  Speaker 8: were live. They chose New York because it was where
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  Speaker 8: the news shows would all go live. If you did
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  Speaker 8: Los Angeles, that wouldn't happen. Washington, D.C., that wouldn't have
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  Speaker 8: happened either. They did it in New York because all
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  Speaker 8: the network's morning shows were live there. They did it
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  Speaker 8: that way so that all the cameras and all of Kristen,
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  Speaker 8: all the news networks, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, heck,
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  Speaker 8: I think even Nickelodeon went live. cameras on the first tower.
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  Speaker 8: That's why it was hit at 8.46 in the morning.
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  Speaker 8: So that at 9.03 they were sure they had a
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  Speaker 8: good audience. So that they could show us what they
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  Speaker 8: could do to us without F-16s, Mr.
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  Speaker 7: Biden and.
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  Speaker 8: With some box cutters they bought at Walmart or Lowe's
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  Speaker 8: or wherever the hell they got it. Bob's Discount Hardware
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  Speaker 8: in Maine. 25 years ago, Mohammed Atta and a bunch
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  Speaker 8: of his crew, the ones that hijacked the planes out
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  Speaker 8: of Boston, were going through airport security at a small
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  Speaker 8: airport in Portland, Maine. footage shows him walking through, metal detector,
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  Speaker 8: even looks up at the security camera. They knew how
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  Speaker 8: to exploit the system. They knew that at the time,
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  Speaker 8: and I will give the Transportation Security Agency this, since then,
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  Speaker 8: you can't kind of walk through a small regional airport
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  Speaker 8: without going through the same TSA scrutiny that you would
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  Speaker 8: go through at Logan or LaGuardia or Newark, where Flight
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  Speaker 8: 93 flew out from. And that's where we are this morning.
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  Speaker 8: I want to thank Mother Nature because two minutes before
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  Speaker 8: we came on the air, she started raining on us.
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  Speaker 8: We've been scrambling with weather radar as we are not
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  Speaker 8: exactly what you would call undercover. I think we're going
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  Speaker 8: to have to take these suit jackets to the dry cleaner.
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  Speaker 8: I can laugh now because it appears that whatever was
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  Speaker 8: landing on us in the form of rain has moved on.
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  Speaker 8: So we should be okay for this special coverage. We
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  Speaker 8: have a lot going on. We've got the former ambassador here.
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  Speaker 8: to the Trump administration, Jim Gilmore, who was at the
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  Speaker 8: time governor of Virginia, responding to the Pentagon attacks with
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  Speaker 8: so many of his fire crews. Senator George Allen, who
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  Speaker 8: was in the Capitol building at the time of the attacks.
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  Speaker 8: We've got lots going on, especially in light of, and
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  Speaker 8: we talk quite frequently, so we had to break here.
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  Speaker 8: We'll get our first things in here. Like I said,
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  Speaker 8: some scrambling because Mother Nature decided, you guys need a
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  Speaker 8: little spritz down. They call that in Hollywood, we're going
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  Speaker 8: to go have a spritz. So Mother Nature gave us
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  Speaker 8: a spritz this morning because my blood pressure wasn't high enough.
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  Speaker 8: But it seems to have ended. So we'll get you
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  Speaker 8: your first things. But suffice to say, the 25th anniversary
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  Speaker 8: of of the September 11th attacks and the controversy that
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  Speaker 8: swirls now. We're going to visit with Sean Stevens from
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  Speaker 8: the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression on their campus
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  Speaker 8: free speech report.
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  Speaker 1: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 1: I know I said I know I know you know
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  Speaker 1: it's true.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not to put the phone down.
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  Speaker 10: You do offer down.
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  Speaker 17: One standing in the highway.
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  Speaker 4: Two more at the door.
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  Speaker 13: We've got to get inside there.
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  Speaker 8: Before they kill someone.
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  Speaker 1: Time to run.
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  Speaker 6: Let's roll.
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  Speaker 23: 25 years later.
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  Speaker 8: And what have we learned? I mentioned Sean Stevens is
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  Speaker 8: going to join us from the Foundation for Individual Rights
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  Speaker 8: and Expression. That's the free speech group that works, and
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  Speaker 8: they've come out with their 2027 Campus Free Expression Guide.
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  Speaker 8: And some of the answers are surprising. I was surprised
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  Speaker 8: to see the University of Chicago at the top of
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  Speaker 8: the list. best for free speech university of Chicago, really. So, um, you,
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  Speaker 8: you can join us, uh, there, uh, the authorities are
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  Speaker 8: walking up to me and this might not be great
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  Speaker 8: live radio. And he may just tell me to shut
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  Speaker 8: off the transmitter here. So I'm hoping not though. Yeah, we're, we're,
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  Speaker 8: we're live. Oh, no, we love dogs. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 8: We appreciate the security though. Um, So on this 25th anniversary,
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  Speaker 8: and I juxtapose because we have other folks joining us. Dr.
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  Speaker 8: Judy Kuriansky is going to talk about processing because I
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  Speaker 8: think in each crisis we've faced as a country, the
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  Speaker 8: aftermath is sometimes worse than the crisis winds up being
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  Speaker 8: because this is the terrorist's goal is to make us
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  Speaker 8: change who we are. So they planned these attacks 25
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  Speaker 8: years ago, executed them, and the immediate effect is only
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  Speaker 8: part of the scenario. What they were looking for is
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  Speaker 8: the long-term change of who we are. Do we travel around?
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  Speaker 8: Do we go to places? It's the same thing when
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  Speaker 8: they released the bioterror weapon of SARS-CoV-2. What can we
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  Speaker 8: make you stop doing that is essential to who you are?
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  Speaker 8: Speaking freely is one of them. Having controversial but defendable ideas.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's not just.
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  Speaker 6: And.
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  Speaker 8: Because we live in the hashtag world, everything has to
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  Speaker 8: fit on a bumper sticker. We unfortunately find ourselves caught
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  Speaker 8: up in incomplete thoughts, incomplete concepts. And when we allow
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  Speaker 8: that to happen, we're helping the terrorists because the terrorists
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  Speaker 8: want us to change who we are. And one of
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  Speaker 8: the things that are essential to who we are is
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  Speaker 8: our ability to speak freely. But when we speak freely,
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  Speaker 8: we need to speak with authority, too. We can't just
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  Speaker 8: generally be hollering at each other because I'm upset. Kids
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  Speaker 8: grew up listening, watching, and reading Thomas Audrey's books about
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  Speaker 8: Thomas the Tank Engine. I want to thank George Carlin
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  Speaker 8: for costing me tens and tens of thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 8: to but that's another story. And in using that, I
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  Speaker 8: know there was one thing that I used is that
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  Speaker 8: in the British idiom, to upset your train cars is
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  Speaker 8: not something you hear, oh, the train cars crashed and
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  Speaker 8: everything spilled out. But in Audrey's books, he would say, oh, Thomas,
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  Speaker 8: you've upset your cold cause. And it gave me the
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  Speaker 8: opportunity to point out the root of the word upset
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  Speaker 8: is you're letting everything spill out of you. You've lost control.
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  Speaker 8: And that's what the people who want to make us
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  Speaker 8: less than who we are win. Because then we don't speak.
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  Speaker 8: We don't speak because we're We don't want to offend someone.
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  Speaker 8: We don't want to get hollered at. And the fact
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  Speaker 8: that we would holler at somebody for disagreeing with us.
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  Speaker 8: We can't have a discussion about the multitudes of people
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  Speaker 8: who live peacefully and lovingly in this country and practice
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  Speaker 8: the faith of Islam because of the action of what
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  Speaker 8: I like to call the 10 percenters, maybe. Maybe 10
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  Speaker 8: percent are... radical Islamists who want to use the shield
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  Speaker 8: of their religion. Again, using the things we hold dear
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  Speaker 8: against us. Our freedom of religion. Let's test out your
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  Speaker 8: freedom of religion, Mr.
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  Speaker 12: USA.
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  Speaker 8: Let's see if you can handle a religion that says,
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  Speaker 8: or at least we will tell everyone, tells us to
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  Speaker 8: kill you. You got a freedom for that religion? Well,
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  Speaker 8: I argue that we do. We do have constitutional protections.
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  Speaker 8: You have the right to do anything you want. You
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  Speaker 8: don't have the right to kill someone. I don't care
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  Speaker 8: what reason you give, but he's the infidel. This doesn't
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  Speaker 8: make a difference. Not in this country. But you said
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  Speaker 8: I have freedom of religion. Well, your religion can't impact
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  Speaker 8: someone else. The same way any of our freedoms. My
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  Speaker 8: Second Amendment rights can't infringe on your freedoms. I can't
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  Speaker 8: use my Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms
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  Speaker 8: to knock over a liquor store. I'm sorry, Your Honor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I used a handgun in that burglary, but I have
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  Speaker 8: a Second Amendment right. No, you don't. Because we lose
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  Speaker 8: this grip and the terrorists want that. And Stevens, you know,
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  Speaker 8: and the folks at FIRE, they chronicle all these places
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  Speaker 8: where now you're not allowed to have an Israelite.
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  Speaker 7: Flag.
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  Speaker 8: You're not allowed. Did you see, who was the fashion designer?
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  Speaker 8: It was one of the big fashion designer houses is
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  Speaker 8: being protested all over the place because they hired Gal
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  Speaker 8: Gadot to be their model. She's a freaking supermodel plus
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  Speaker 8: an award-winning actress. She's Wonder Woman. And now I start
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  Speaker 8: to wonder why she's not going to be Wonder Woman
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  Speaker 8: in the next installment of the Wonder Woman movies. Because
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  Speaker 8: she's Israeli. She's proud of it. She's not abashed by it.
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  Speaker 8: Was it.
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  Speaker 8: I don't remember. I just happened to see the story
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  Speaker 8: as we were scrolling the headlines this morning that there's
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  Speaker 8: this fashion house that hired Gal Gadot.
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  Speaker 12: Smart.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's expensive. I'm sure they're paying cash money
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  Speaker 8: to get Gal Gadot to be their spokesmodel. But this
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  Speaker 8: is what the folks at FIRE are trying to bring
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  Speaker 8: back in this country. We've buried ourselves in this political correctness. That,
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  Speaker 8: to be fair, this is what the intention was 25
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  Speaker 8: years ago, when Muhammad Atta, now just 20 minutes from
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  Speaker 8: entering the Portland airport, was intending. This was their plan,
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  Speaker 8: was to make Americans stop having free speech, stop freely
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  Speaker 8: associating with one another, give up on your freedom of religion.
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  Speaker 8: All these things were weaponized against us while also weaponizing
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  Speaker 8: things like air travel. And so this is where we
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  Speaker 8: are 25 years later, and this is the wave that
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  Speaker 8: these terrorists wanted us to be going down, shutting each
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  Speaker 8: other up, shutting each other out, shutting each other off.
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  Speaker 1: First thing today by Joe Thomas on the talk media network.
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  Speaker 23: They got a vintage Victrola 1951. Full of my favorite
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  Speaker 8: On this 25th anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11th,
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  Speaker 8: we are here in Shanksville again. and I have visited
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  Speaker 8: the other sites. I find that I'm compelled to broadcast
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  Speaker 8: from here when it's appropriate. I haven't been back for
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  Speaker 8: 20 years. We were here on the fifth anniversary in 2006,
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  Speaker 8: and it was just a field with some CNN satellite
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: trucks in it at the time. But 2001, September of 2001,
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  Speaker 8: a dear friend of mine, And a man who helps
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: Vern Gosden get more money out of his music publishers
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  Speaker 8: every time he comes on the show is George Allen.
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  Speaker 8: He was Senator George Allen at the time. His nickname
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• 29:23
  Speaker 8: so good to catch up with you, sir. How are
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing very, very good.
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  Speaker 19: But it's a solemn time. Amen. You know, if you
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  Speaker 19: think 25 years ago today, September 10th, was a completely
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  Speaker 19: different world, blissful, happy. whatever the issues were, but the
• 29:44
  Speaker 19: world changed. At this time, a day later, the world changed.
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  Speaker 7: I was in the U.S. Senate at the time.
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  Speaker 19: It's so altogether perfect that you're in Shanksville. And the
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  Speaker 19: reason that means something to me is that that plane
• 30:01
  Speaker 19: and those heroes that crashed that plane near Shanksville, that
• 30:06
  Speaker 19: plane was targeting exactly where I was working, which was
• 30:09
  Speaker 19: the U.S. Capitol. And they had us all evacuate. I
• 30:13
  Speaker 19: didn't want to leave. They wanted us to leave. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 19: I said, I'm not leaving. It's the Crockett mentality. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 19: am not going to leave. And so they finally convinced
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  Speaker 19: me to leave. They said, look, your staff is going
• 30:25
  Speaker 19: to stay with you. And you can't be risking their lives.
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  Speaker 19: And so that's what got me to leave. And we
• 30:33
  Speaker 19: reconstituted our office. We had just moved four days prior
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  Speaker 19: to that to Northern Virginia, to near Mount Vernon. And
• 30:42
  Speaker 19: we moved the office there. And the roads were, you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 19: it was just bedlam as far as people running all
• 30:51
  Speaker 19: over the place. And the bridge closed and all of that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: But the.
• 30:57
  Speaker 19: The reality is, is we all got back together again.
• 31:02
  Speaker 19: As senators later in the day, Capitol Police came down,
• 31:05
  Speaker 19: tucked me to a place in D.C. to get a briefing.
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  Speaker 19: And we all reconvened on the Capitol steps. Republicans, Democrats,
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  Speaker 19: House members, senators, and the leaders gave some speeches. But
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  Speaker 19: what was most important is just spontaneously we broke into meetings.
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  Speaker 7: Singing God Bless.
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  Speaker 19: America to show that we are back at the Capitol
• 31:32
  Speaker 19: and we're going to be united against these terrorist attacks.
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting, and you talk about the reaction
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: before and after. Senator Allen, I'm going to call you
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: that now for our conversation. Understood. Because George is back
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: on the campaign trail on something that he and I
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: thought we had fixed a few years ago, and that's gerrymandering.
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  Speaker 8: So we're going to get into that as well, George.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: But just a thought on, you know, what we came
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: up with, what the country behaved like after the attacks
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: and what we're behaving like now when you start to get,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: you know, people arguing about anti-Semitic ranting on college campuses and,
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: you know, is Hamas a marginalized group? And then people
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: saying Iran is the victim of our, you know, our
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: missile firing. You know, we have for probably as long
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: as Virginia has been out there. I mean, Thomas Jefferson
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: told George Washington we might need to battle radical Islam militarily.
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  Speaker 8: And that was the most pacifist founder we had. Is
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: this just a battle that's been too many years coming
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  Speaker 8: from where you sit?
• 32:49
  Speaker 19: Well, yeah, well, obviously Thomas Jefferson, as president, went after.
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  Speaker 19: What is generally present-day Libya, in that area, in the Mediterranean.
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  Speaker 19: And they were trying to block commerce and make us
• 33:06
  Speaker 19: pay tribute to them. And so, I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 7: The shores of Tripoli.
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  Speaker 8: But I mean, their excuse when Jefferson confronted them about
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: it was, It says we can do this in our texts.
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  Speaker 8: And that's when he realized that this was a radicalism that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, wasn't even necessarily about commerce as it was just,
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  Speaker 8: you know, causing problems for the infidel.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 23: Yeah.
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  Speaker 19: So, you know, when you think of 9-11 and we
• 33:35
  Speaker 19: had some indications that there were going to be attacks,
• 33:38
  Speaker 19: it wasn't as if Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden
• 33:42
  Speaker 19: didn't try to take down a building in New York
• 33:45
  Speaker 19: City years prior to that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: And you've got to recognize that there are.
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  Speaker 19: Forces, evil forces, terrorist forces around the world that mean
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  Speaker 19: us harm. And they will do it. They'll do it
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  Speaker 19: with bots. They'll do it with cyber. They'll do it
• 34:04
  Speaker 19: with influencers. And they'll do it militarily. And you just
• 34:08
  Speaker 19: cannot let Iran get nuclear weapons. Then you have the
• 34:12
  Speaker 19: issue of Israel, which is a whale spring issue.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: In the wilderness. That's our best ally in the middle East.
• 34:19
  Speaker 19: And, and I, and these college campuses, these people like
• 34:23
  Speaker 19: the university of Virginia, where two thirds of the students
• 34:26
  Speaker 19: last spring voted to sanction boycott and, uh, and disinvest
• 34:33
  Speaker 19: from any company that does business with Israel. And these
• 34:37
  Speaker 19: folks are on the side of the terrorists in Hamas.
• 34:40
  Speaker 19: And it's just, do they not remember?
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Part of 9-11 is never forget.
• 34:49
  Speaker 19: And I'm not saying that everybody is.
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  Speaker 7: And in fact, everybody who is a Muslim is not
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  Speaker 7: against the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Most are.
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  Speaker 19: Most are fine. Most are perfectly fine. Good people, good neighbors,
• 35:00
  Speaker 19: good business people. But there are these these radicals. And Iran,
• 35:07
  Speaker 19: Iran is is this number one state sponsor of terror
• 35:10
  Speaker 19: and to not deal with them.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: And of course, Hamas didn't get their money.
• 35:16
  Speaker 19: From whatever they were doing. They were funded by Iran.
• 35:19
  Speaker 19: Same with Hezbollah, same with the Houthis. And so to me,
• 35:26
  Speaker 19: you need to learn from history and being blissfully stupid, ignorant,
• 35:30
  Speaker 19: or being a dupe for these terrorists is so stupid,
• 35:36
  Speaker 19: which is one thing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: But it's worse when it's danger.
• 35:39
  Speaker 19: It's dangerous to To the free world, to our country,
• 35:42
  Speaker 19: to our allies, to commerce and everything. And so it's
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  Speaker 19: important to remember that we need to be on guard.
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  Speaker 19: And when we say God bless America, yes, that's important. And,
• 35:54
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• 35:55
  Speaker 7: And they hate us for it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 19: Unity was great. The unity was great. The sharing of
• 36:00
  Speaker 19: information was made better. Firefighters needed better communications after we
• 36:08
  Speaker 19: worked on that. Because you had firefighters rushing into the
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  Speaker 7: Same with the firefighters up in New York City.
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  Speaker 19: We had to reopen Reagan National Airport, all of that, things.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: That we needed to do to be safe. To get
• 36:27
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• 36:29
  Speaker 8: And I think that's, you know, an important part of
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: this is getting back to an ability to have debate,
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: to have discussion and to tell the truth. I think
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: that's why some of the 22 year olds on these
• 36:40
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• 36:43
  Speaker 8: teach September 11th anymore. They won't they won't talk about it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: And it's just I think it's.
• 36:50
  Speaker 19: If they won't talk about it, of all things, I mean,
• 36:54
  Speaker 19: we can argue what are important events in history. 9-11
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  Speaker 19: is the biggest terrorist attack on the U.S.
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• 37:11
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• 37:20
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• 37:39
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  Speaker 15: Freedom of speech.
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  Speaker 1: Freedom of religion. Freedom of the press.
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  Speaker 10: Freedom to peaceably assemble.
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  Speaker 8: Freedom to petition the government.
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  Speaker 2: Only the United States has these five freedoms so simply
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  Speaker 2: bound together and guaranteed.
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  Speaker 8: Think first. Learn more at thinkfirstamendment.org. No word in the
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  Speaker 8: English language is less convincing than probably.
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure we should get matching tattoos on our
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  Speaker 3: first date?
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  Speaker 8: Sure.
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  Speaker 21: We'll probably stay together.
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  Speaker 7: Probably?
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  Speaker 9: It's been 23 minutes since I ate.
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  Speaker 8: I can probably swim. Uh, you should wait 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, don't tell me what to do.
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  Speaker 8: Cannonball!
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  Speaker 11: Cramp!
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I have a cramp. I can probably hit the
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  Speaker 8: green from here. Probably.
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  Speaker 3: Can I get a mulligan?
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  Speaker 12: Ready to go?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, are you sure you're okay to drive?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sober.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm probably okay.
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  Speaker 24: Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking
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  Speaker 3: the Federal Trade Commission.
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  Speaker 1: We've cut the cost of radio listening by, hell, it
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  Speaker 1: didn't cost anything in the first place, so let's say.
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  Speaker 14: $ 1 million.
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  Speaker 7: And call it even.
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  Speaker 1: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 8: First thing this morning, and thank you for letting us
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  Speaker 8: be of service to you here live from Shanksville, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 8: the Flight 93 Memorial, where things will get started here shortly.
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  Speaker 8: But I want to jump back a couple of days
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  Speaker 8: to a report that came out on the 9th, which
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  Speaker 8: was FIRE's annual report on free speech on campus. And
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  Speaker 8: one of the folks who all put that all together,
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  Speaker 8: Sean Stevens, is on with us. Sean, thank you for
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: taking a little time out with us. How are you
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  Speaker 8: doing this morning?
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  Speaker 7: Good.
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  Speaker 6: Happy to chat. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you for doing these reports annually out with it.
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  Speaker 8: I was a little surprised to see the University of
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  Speaker 8: Chicago at the top of the list, you know, and
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  Speaker 8: top by that, I mean, a B-, which is sort
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  Speaker 8: of like the best grade I ever got in school.
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  Speaker 8: So talk about, you know, have they been, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a historically good performer.
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  Speaker 7: When it's come to free speech on campus?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so we've been doing the college free speech rankings
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  Speaker 6: every year since 2020. And there are, you know, so
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  Speaker 6: the way I kind of look at it, The rankings
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  Speaker 6: themselves are almost like a top 25 in college football.
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  Speaker 7: Or college basketball, right?
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  Speaker 6: Everybody wants to have the top ranking every year and
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  Speaker 6: be the best. But if you're consistently in that range,
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  Speaker 6: I'd say you're doing better than your peers. So the
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  Speaker 6: University of Chicago, while we still think there could be
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  Speaker 6: improvements there, has been one.
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  Speaker 8: Of our consistently good performers.
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  Speaker 7: This is the third.
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  Speaker 6: Time in seven years they've been the number one school
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  Speaker 6: And most of the other schools in the top five,
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  Speaker 6: top ten generally land in the top ten, top 25
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  Speaker 6: year after year at this point.
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  Speaker 8: So talk about the metrics that go into the score
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  Speaker 8: that puts these schools in these rankings. Our flagship city, Charlottesville,
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  Speaker 8: saw the University of Virginia make the top ten, as
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  Speaker 8: did George Mason University. Yet there's still friction over anti-Semitic
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  Speaker 8: comments that were ignored by school leadership during the Hamas
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  Speaker 8: protests and such. So talk about how these aggregates are
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  Speaker 8: put together. What helps a school do well and what
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  Speaker 8: holds it back?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so primary thing that feeds into the score that
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  Speaker 6: each school gets and then their fourth overall ranking is
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  Speaker 6: we do a yearly survey Of undergraduates on these campuses,
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  Speaker 6: about 20 of the questions feed into the calculation of
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  Speaker 6: the rankings. They measure different kinds of constructs that come
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: out of that. So there's a handful of questions that
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  Speaker 6: look at how comfortable you are expressing controversial political views
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  Speaker 6: in different campus settings, like the classroom or the dining hall.
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  Speaker 6: We assess political tolerance, and we do that through support
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  Speaker 6: or opposition to allowing different speakers who have previously said
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  Speaker 6: something controversial on campus. Half these speakers have said something
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  Speaker 6: that would offend the political left. The other half have
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  Speaker 6: said something that would offend the political right. We ask
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  Speaker 6: students questions about how confident they are their administration will
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  Speaker 6: protect free speech rights during a controversy. We ask about
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  Speaker 6: the difficult topics. specific topics that they find difficult to discuss.
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  Speaker 6: And we ask about frequency of self-censorship on campus and
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  Speaker 6: conversations with different constituencies. So it could be their peers,
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  Speaker 6: it could be professors, it could be administrators, it could
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  Speaker 6: just be in the classroom. So we ask all this,
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  Speaker 6: we put that all together, and then we combine that
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  Speaker 6: with two other evaluations. We have a policy reform team,
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  Speaker 6: rates each school's speech policies, their speech code.
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  Speaker 7: Policies on the books.
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  Speaker 6: And so a positive rating earns you points, and then
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  Speaker 6: there's two potential negative ratings that can lose you points.
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  Speaker 6: And the final thing which I think hits on and
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  Speaker 6: would pick up on some of the inevitable controversies that
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  Speaker 6: college campuses are going to face, we maintain, our research
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  Speaker 6: department maintains three different databases. where we track the presence
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  Speaker 6: of controversy over speech on campus and then kind of
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  Speaker 6: the outcome. of it. So one of these tracks attempts
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  Speaker 6: to get events canceled, so mostly speakers. But it could
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  Speaker 6: also be play performances, movie screenings, art exhibits, things like that.
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  Speaker 6: The other two focus on student and faculty speech. Um,
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  Speaker 6: and so within these, what, what we, what, what that,
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  Speaker 6: where schools can kind of rise or fall in the
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  Speaker 6: rankings with this is if they have a good response
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  Speaker 6: to the controversy and, and have a very clear defense and, and,
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  Speaker 6: you know, full throated, uh, endorsement of freedom of speech
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  Speaker 6: and academic freedom, they can earn points, um, or they
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  Speaker 6: can mitigate a penalty. They can mitigate a penalty if
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  Speaker 6: there was some kind of disruption of an event. Um,
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  Speaker 6: On the flip side, if speech winds up being censored
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  Speaker 6: in one of these campaigns, schools.
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  Speaker 7: Can lose points.
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  Speaker 6: And those penalties decay year over year over time, so
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  Speaker 6: they don't last forever. But some of them do last
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  Speaker 6: for more than a year. Some of them last for
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  Speaker 6: more than a year. I mean, if you violently disrupt
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  Speaker 6: an event, it's going to impact your score for four
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  Speaker 6: or five years.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting you say that because that's a really
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  Speaker 8: interesting dynamic. It sounds like engineers went into it. putting
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  Speaker 8: this together because it doesn't say, it actually rewards the
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  Speaker 8: fact that there are controversial things that go on, but
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: how they're handled seems to be a big part of
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  Speaker 8: how the score gets worked out. Sean Stevens is on
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  Speaker 8: with us from FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and
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  Speaker 8: Expression at FIRE.org, and their college campus scorecard is out.
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  Speaker 8: and some schools at the very low end of it.
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  Speaker 8: But I want to pick up on something, because you
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  Speaker 8: said the first report came out in 2000. You're a
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  Speaker 8: young fellow. I'm sure you were barely born at the
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  Speaker 8: time when the first report came out. Oh, no, the
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  Speaker 8: first report was 2020.
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  Speaker 7: I wrote it.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I thought it was 2000. I'm sorry. My mistake then.
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  Speaker 8: Then scrap the whole line of questioning because I was
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  Speaker 8: going to go back to we're here at the Flight
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  Speaker 8: 93 memorial here. But actually, no, I can still make
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  Speaker 8: the question out of it because there was a September
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  Speaker 8: 11th memorial at the University of Virginia that actually the
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: former president took part in. putting together some of it,
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  Speaker 8: and wound up nearly getting run out of town by
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  Speaker 8: the activist class. Pardon me, wind blowing over signs here.
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: The activist class on campus because they didn't want the
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  Speaker 8: president or they thought this espoused some xenophobia against the
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  Speaker 8: misunderstood terrorists on September 11th. Are some of these controversies.
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  Speaker 8: Certainly we just watched yesterday was the anniversary of the
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: assassination of Charlie Kirk, probably one of the more publicly notable.
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  Speaker 8: But these instances seem to be getting more and more attention.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe they're just getting more attention. Speak to that. When
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: we come back from the news, we've got the news
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  Speaker 8: coming up here. Sean Stevens, of course, I start a
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  Speaker 8: question not looking at the clock. Answer that question. Are
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  Speaker 8: they more frequent or are they just getting more air
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  Speaker 8: time from the press?
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