Latest / The Downing Arts Podcast / LT26.9 Lent Term Special
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- 0:00Welcome to the Downing Arts Podcast.
- 0:05We've made it to the end of term and what a last week it's been.
- 0:08With the Festival of New Writing giving voice to a number of new scripts and
- 0:12the chapel choir's sell out performance of the Mozart Requiem on Sunday,
- 0:19I'm delighted to have with me today Jenny Ulf, who's a member of college staff.
- 0:23Welcome, Jenny. Thank you, Louisa. Now, I can see you're clutching a number of interesting
- 0:27looking items. Before we get into that, do you want to just explain a little
- 0:31bit about who you are and what your role is in college? Yes, I'm a
- 0:35college archivist, so I'm responsible for the college archives. So historical
- 0:39records, photographs, anything relating to the history
- 0:43of the college and its members and the Downing family back to
- 0:46the 16th century. Wow, that must be a really fascinating job.
- 0:51I mean, I mean, I know you've shown me some photographs of college sort of
- 0:54in the past and must be really interesting. Yes, yes, it is.
- 0:58And one of the things I wanted to share today is
- 1:01some of the early musical history of the college that members
- 1:06may not be aware of. Wow. So,
- 1:10going very back to the earliest
- 1:13residents of the college, one of the more interesting
- 1:18figures is the wife of the second master, William Frere.
- 1:23So Mary Frere and William were actually the first residents in
- 1:27the Master's lodge. The first Master, Francis Ansley, hadn't ever lived
- 1:31in college, so they moved in after William
- 1:35Frere became master in 1813. And at
- 1:39that time they were quite a lot younger than other heads
- 1:45of houses. William was much younger. So they
- 1:49actually were quite unusual in
- 1:53the social gatherings that they encouraged in
- 1:56Downing at that time, heads of houses often only
- 2:01socialized together, so even not with other academics. But William
- 2:05and Mary organized quite a lot of musical dramatic
- 2:10productions where they invited students,
- 2:15tenants and even sometimes staff and tradesmen.
- 2:18Wow. So I think probably
- 2:22the main instigator of all this was Mary, because she was very
- 2:27musical. She'd been trained as a singer and was widely admired.
- 2:33She'd helped organise the Cambridge Music Festival in
- 2:371824. And one of the professional sopranos who
- 2:42performed at the concert, Angelina Catalani, actually commented
- 2:46that she thought her the best unprofessional singer in the whole of England.
- 2:49That's quite an accolade. Yeah. And she was quite keen to share
- 2:53this gift. So the college had several performances.
- 3:00They had a performance of Carmen in the hall in 1833 and
- 3:04Mary actually joined in with the professional singers.
- 3:07She was quite fond of opera and had been involved
- 3:12when her father was the MP for Norwich, choosing plays
- 3:17and performers at Norwich Theatre. So she was very knowledgeable and
- 3:21comfortable in these circles. So this all
- 3:25made her the perfect society hostess, really,
- 3:29hosting musical parties in the Master's Lodge,
- 3:32taking over the hall for dramatic productions. They had
- 3:36several performances of Sheridan's the Rivals and the critic
- 3:41in the 1830s, and around this time they
- 3:45often were accompanied by what was called public breakfasts.
- 3:48So I haven't been able to find a lot of information
- 3:52about this, but it seems to be a gathering of
- 3:56all of the great and the good in Cambridge, often in a big marquee.
- 4:00So a big meal and then followed by a ball.
- 4:04So at breakfast time? Yeah, the public breakfast, I think, was actually
- 4:09a breakfast time. It may have been slightly later,
- 4:12because it was. The one particular one in 1835 was
- 4:16followed by balls. So presumably that was more like an
- 4:20afternoon evening dinner. And in 1835,
- 4:25we know that there were several of these public breakfasts followed by plays.
- 4:29So Henry IV was performed, the Rivals and
- 4:33the Critic was performed again. And this one,
- 4:37the Downing, tenants from the estates around Cambridgeshire,
- 4:41tradespeople and staff were invited, which was really unusual
- 4:46at the time. So how big would the College have been at that time,
- 4:49in terms of students? Yeah, yeah. All in. So a handful
- 4:53of fellows, five or six fellows. The College had
- 4:57only really started admitting students from 1820.
- 5:03They'd had one student before that, but he wasn't really resident and
- 5:07it was just one of these needing to keep the name on the books.
- 5:10So from 1820, just.
- 5:14Just a handful of students a year. So it was really quite small.
- 5:17And at that point, you've only got. You've only got the east
- 5:21range and the west range, so they didn't have lots of rooms for students.
- 5:26So that's probably the reason why the College actually didn't
- 5:30grow particularly quickly. They weren't able at that point to
- 5:34offer scholarships and prizes at that point
- 5:38financially, because of the situation with the college finances.
- 5:41So it wasn't until the 1860s,
- 5:45when that situation changed, that they were able to start enticing students to migrate
- 5:49from other colleges. Oh, wow. So,
- 5:52yes, Mary Frere, somebody little known really,
- 5:56in the history of the College, but a really interesting figure.
- 5:59And although Downing was quite small in terms of students,
- 6:02it does seem to have been quite interesting and important
- 6:07in terms of the social and musical events
- 6:11that were going on at the time. I get the impression that the college site
- 6:15was quite big at that point. I mean, it's not small now, but yes.
- 6:21So at that point, up until late teens,
- 6:24the Whole of what is now the Downing site was part of
- 6:28the College. So the entrance to the College was originally on Downing street,
- 6:32where the museums are today. So in 1895 the college
- 6:37started selling off that land to fund
- 6:41more building work. So that money that they gained
- 6:45from the piecemeal sale of that land then would have gone towards
- 6:49building what's now the North Range.
- 6:52So you had a grand tree lined up avenue from
- 6:56Downing Street. Weren't there cows there as well?
- 7:01Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of photographs. And William and Mary
- 7:05Frere had a farm in the
- 7:10corner of the College, which is now. So where
- 7:14Lensfield Road and Tennis Court Road meet, where the bottom of the Fellows Garden
- 7:18is now, was a farm during their time. And much of what is
- 7:22now the paddock was the Master's gardens at that point.
- 7:26And during William's and Frere's time, that was obviously then taken
- 7:30back and some of it was given to the Fellows. So it
- 7:34was yeah, quite, quite a different place there,
- 7:38really. So the other
- 7:42interesting figure that people may not
- 7:46be aware of, an important visitor to the college in 1893.
- 7:50So I brought a photograph which is not in the College collection,
- 7:55unfortunately, but is widely available online.
- 7:58And this, this photograph shows the composer Tchaikovsky
- 8:02standing in the garden of West Lodge,
- 8:05photographed by Florence Maitland, who was the wife of the professor
- 8:09of Law at the time. And the West Lodge
- 8:14at that point and the garden were the private residence of
- 8:18the professor of Law. So the Maitland family with their two daughters, lived in the
- 8:22West Lodge. And when Tchaikovsky came to
- 8:26Cambridge in June 1893 with
- 8:29several other composers. So to mark the
- 8:3450th anniversary of the Cambridge University Musical Society,
- 8:40they'd awarded an honorary doctorate to Tchaikovsky,
- 8:45Brooke, Boito and Grieg.
- 8:48So they were all coming for the ceremony, which was
- 8:52to be held on 13 June 1893. And there was going
- 8:56to be a big concert in the Guildhall on the 12th, the day before,
- 8:59and Professor Maitland, just off his own
- 9:03back, wrote to Tchaikovsky and offered, invited him
- 9:07to stay in the West Lodge, which he accepted. Yeah. Wow.
- 9:12So, yeah, we've got this photo which may be one of
- 9:16the last portraits of Tchaikovsky before his death. So he died
- 9:20in November that year, standing, looking very
- 9:25grand in his doctoral robes, looking off to the side. He looks very pensive.
- 9:29Yes. So, yes, this was, we believe,
- 9:32taken by the wife of the professor of Law in
- 9:36West Lodge Garden at Downing. It is, I know it's a print
- 9:41of a very old photo, but he is almost see through.
- 9:45It looks quite ghostly at the closet yeah, of course. Is that
- 9:49the sort of gathering that Sanson was involved with as well?
- 9:53Yes. So, yes, sorry, I think I missed him off the list.
- 9:57So there was a big concert, so Grieg was actually ill,
- 10:01so he wasn't able to attend the concert and ceremony in person.
- 10:04But Sanson, Bruce, Boito,
- 10:06Tchaikovsky did and they held.
- 10:10There was a piece by each composer and Tchaikovsky
- 10:15conducted. Saintson played the piano.
- 10:18So, yeah, a really great occasion with a
- 10:22slight Downing connection, thanks to the Maitlands. Yeah. Wow.
- 10:25And Florence Maitland was. Was quite musical.
- 10:29We know that she played for Tchaikovsky
- 10:32when he was in the West Lodge. She was
- 10:36a first cousin of Virginia Woolf and a
- 10:40musician and playwright in her own right.
- 10:44Her sister Adeline went on to marry Ralph Horne Williams in
- 10:481897. Very musical family.
- 10:52So, yeah, again, a little known connection,
- 10:55exciting connection. Sadly, we don't have the original photograph in
- 10:59the archive. It may have been you or somebody who told me once that Tchaikovsky
- 11:04slept in the room that is now the music room in e staircase. Is that
- 11:07right? I don't know. I guess we don't know where he slept. So I think.
- 11:11I think the music room may have been.
- 11:14There was. I think there was a lecture room, possibly in the West Lodge.
- 11:18So certainly it was all part of the house that he
- 11:22would have stayed in. But yes, we don't know where, unfortunately.
- 11:25Well, he can always speculate. Yeah. Wow. Oh, thank you for bringing that.
- 11:29The other thing I brought. So I brought a few
- 11:33things relating to the musical society at Downing, the first
- 11:38of which being the earliest surviving program that's in
- 11:42the archive, which is from the 27th of November 1896.
- 11:46Wow. And obviously this is not ideal for
- 11:50anybody listening, but it's beautiful.
- 11:53It's got a magenta ribbon and a black ribbon.
- 11:56So even then the college colors were.
- 12:00Were in evidence. And the crest as well, all the
- 12:04coats of arms. Yeah. So it's got the Downing.
- 12:07The Downing shield with the an arm and arrow
- 12:11above. That's slightly random. Yes. It's not. Not quite correct,
- 12:16but. And then the university, presumably the university musical.
- 12:21Yeah, well. Well, I don't know. It's probably just the university, actually.
- 12:23Yeah, possibly. I don't know. Anyway,
- 12:27we don't know when the musical society was established.
- 12:31The Griffin Darling one. Yes, yes. The Griffin
- 12:36Magazine was only set up in Michaelmas,
- 12:391903. So from that point we've got reports of
- 12:44clubs and societies of the college. So before
- 12:48that,
- 12:51it's a bit of a gray area really. So we obviously know it
- 12:55was in existence from at least 1896 because of the
- 12:58surviving programs. And there are programs for
- 13:02each of the subsequent years up to 1900. And then it's a bit.
- 13:06A bit patchy after that. So this is for a smoking. Smoking concert.
- 13:10Yeah. So in terms of what that actually was,
- 13:14we have a couple of surviving photos from a couple of years later,
- 13:18so around 1900. And a great
- 13:22photograph which I've also brought with me, which is actually
- 13:26from an album in the Pembroke College archive,
- 13:30but clearly shows a huge group of
- 13:33men in black tie sitting in the hall with their back
- 13:38to. There's carpet and everything. Yeah. So with them back to what. What is
- 13:42now the big window that looks over towards the Master's Lodge, but at that time
- 13:46was a big wooden door and we can't see
- 13:50any musicians, but they
- 13:54are all, or the vast majority of them are holding these huge clay pipes.
- 13:58Yeah. And it does seem to have been a
- 14:02concert at which you could smoke with your big clay pipes.
- 14:05His facial expressions are quite hilarious. Yeah. I think some of the people sitting
- 14:10on the front are recognizable as college fellows.
- 14:13But because this is in a Pembroke student's photograph
- 14:17album, it was obviously something that was open to
- 14:21other members of other colleges to attend. Is that
- 14:25the chaplain? Yes. Yes, it is. Yeah. Wow.
- 14:29There's someone just with a normal cigarette. Yeah.
- 14:33Any kind of smoking allowed at that point. Seems that chap looks like
- 14:36he's just been poked in the eye with a long clay pipe. Doesn't look happy.
- 14:40Wow. So, yeah, it's an interesting
- 14:44aspect of the early history. They all seem to have been taking place
- 14:47in the hall. But then obviously at that point they wouldn't have really had anywhere
- 14:51else. The final photograph
- 14:55that I brought is again of the hall all
- 14:58looking in the same direction. So towards. Yeah.
- 15:02So towards the big columns that are either side of that. That window towards
- 15:07the Master's Lodge. This is a photograph from 1932.
- 15:11And at that point you don't see the wooden
- 15:15doors between the columns, but a huge organ.
- 15:19So at that point the college was given
- 15:24an organ which was known as the Bennington organ in
- 15:281928 by an honorary Fellow.
- 15:31And at that point, before the chapel was
- 15:36built, or what we now know as the chapel, the college
- 15:40had a temporary chapel that was located on a floor above
- 15:44the hall, above where the high table
- 15:48is today. Because the original Wilkins
- 15:53Chapel, which should have been in the south range between the Master's
- 15:57Lodge and the hall, was never built. So in 1821,
- 16:00when it was beginning to look unlikely that they might be building that anytime soon,
- 16:05they designated this upper room, as it was called as
- 16:10a temporary chapel, but it actually stayed as the temporary
- 16:14chapel or the Official Chapel until 1953
- 16:18when the chapel, as we know it was actually
- 16:22completed and opened. So the, the organ that was donated in
- 16:261928 couldn't go in this room, which presumably was not big
- 16:30enough or with the floor. This upper room is. It's not there now,
- 16:33presumably. No. So the hall in the late
- 16:371960s when they built the SCR, previous to that,
- 16:41the SCR had been at that
- 16:46end of the hall. So the hall was divided in two.
- 16:50So where the high table is now was a totally separate fellows
- 16:55combination room. So in the 1960s, obviously when they moved
- 16:59the SCR to the new SCR, they knocked through
- 17:03all of that area into what we now know as the.
- 17:07So that's why it looks quite a lot shorter in this picture.
- 17:11Yes, yes, yeah. Okay. We understand that the. The organ stayed
- 17:15in the hall until 1937. So it was there for possibly nine years
- 17:20until it was moved into storage.
- 17:24So we've got a
- 17:28fantastic film that an alum from 1928,
- 17:34Iliff Cousins filmed of life around
- 17:38Cambridge in college. And one of the things he includes in
- 17:42the various scenes in this film is a concert
- 17:46that was obviously taking place in the hall and there's an organist and two
- 17:51people on grand pianos. So unfortunately the
- 17:55film's totally silent and we can only imagine what they were playing. But.
- 17:59So it was obviously used at that point in the hall and
- 18:04then moved into storage. So. Yeah, so yeah, you'd never
- 18:08know it today really, but you can't really imagine a huge organ at that
- 18:13point. But there's obviously nowhere else for them to put it at that point.
- 18:15Yeah, gosh, I'm just thinking that what it. The kind of acoustic in
- 18:19the hall, I mean, I imagine it's perhaps a bit different from what it is
- 18:22now, but also these windows look like they're sort of
- 18:27going outside. But if I've got my directions right there, it's not
- 18:31like that now. Yes. So this photograph looking towards the master's lodge above
- 18:36the doors on the left, where you
- 18:40would obviously now go through towards the servery, are windows
- 18:45that are letting in daylight. And at that point,
- 18:48and again until this work in the 1960s, so the 1960s work that
- 18:52involved the SCR opening up the hall,
- 18:57also reconfigured B staircase, so that
- 19:01we had obviously the upper administrative offices that
- 19:05we know today. Before that, there was nothing on
- 19:09that first floor at that point. So you could literally see
- 19:12daylight coming through it's. Quite complicated
- 19:17and difficult sometimes when you look at these photographs, to imagine how
- 19:21it was at that particular time. But yes, so it all changed
- 19:25at the end of the 1960s with the work on
- 19:29the staircase, the kitchens, the hall, the scr.
- 19:34So, yes, it looks quite dark and dreary
- 19:38really. This photo from 1932. I'm just
- 19:42thinking those little lights in the ceiling probably didn't make much difference.
- 19:46No. And obviously you didn't have the window at
- 19:49the front that you have now. Yeah, I mean, the hall's lovely and light now.
- 19:54So, yeah, this photograph. So I think the organ,
- 19:58once it came out of storage, did go in the chapel for
- 20:02maybe 10, 15 years before it was replaced. Obviously by then
- 20:06it was quite old, but it made it into and out of
- 20:10storage and into the new chapel. So, yeah, just a few items really,
- 20:14to give a bit of an overview of some of the early musical
- 20:19history of the college. It's difficult, obviously on a recording to
- 20:24bring that across, but hopefully. Yeah. Well, I mean,
- 20:28yeah, thank you for bringing, especially this program. I mean, I just think how
- 20:32on earth did they produce something like this? I mean, it really is beautiful.
- 20:34Yeah, it's really. Yeah, it's really quite. It's looking captive
- 20:38with the ribbons, some of the items they performed as well. The only composers
- 20:42I recognize are Chopin, Stanford Adams, Vanowski.
- 20:45Yeah, quite a variety. Comic song, a couple of comic songs,
- 20:49Violin solo, piano solo, lots of other songs.
- 20:53Yeah. Wow. Well, thank you so much. That's okay. My pleasure.
- 20:56Really interesting. And yeah, been great to talk
- 21:00to you. Thank you very much.
- 21:06This week in college, the final Music society event of
- 21:10the term happens tomorrow in the East Staircase Music Room.
- 21:12Celebrated sitar player Jasdeep Singh will be giving a lecture 4 till 6pm
- 21:17followed by a concert 6 till 7pm Tickets cover both of these events and are
- 21:21available on eventbrite. Details in the show notes. The gallery
- 21:25exhibition Tudor Contemporary continues until the 19th of April. Do pop
- 21:28in if you're out and about, enjoying this lovely weather.
- 21:36Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed to this term series and to
- 21:40all our listeners in the uk, usa, Indonesia, China,
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- 21:47the Netherlands. We're in need of interviewees for next term, so do drop me
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- 21:55if you'd like to come on the show. Happy holidays and thanks for listening.