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Desperado · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cuff's Basement.
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  Speaker 2: I am your host.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing this one solo. Tim and Ben and Bryan
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  Speaker 1: are here more to observe. Hi, Hi Ryan, Hey, and
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  Speaker 1: Hey Ben.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me back.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, and the topic today, which again I will be
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  Speaker 1: discussing myself, is the nineteen seventy three ballad by the
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  Speaker 1: American band.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles called Desperado.
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  Speaker 1: It was written by Glenn Fry and Don Henley, and
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  Speaker 1: it was four ninety four on Rolling Stones list of
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  Speaker 1: the five hundred Greatest Songs of All Time. No, in
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  Speaker 1: all seriousness, I don't I don't get the Eagles, Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with the Eagles. I don't
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  Speaker 1: hate the Eagles. I have nothing against them. Like they
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  Speaker 1: have some good songs Hotel California, Desperado, but like people
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  Speaker 1: love them and think they're like one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: rock bands of all time, and I just don't see
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  Speaker 1: it at all personally.
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  Speaker 2: Do you disagree with that?
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  Speaker 3: No, not a big fan.
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  Speaker 5: I like the Eagles. That's hard to say. Like I
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  Speaker 5: can see why people love them.
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  Speaker 6: I also kind of understand your point, but I don't
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  Speaker 6: have a super strong opinion either way.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like people of a certain age love them,
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  Speaker 1: and they have a lot of hit songs. Take it easy,
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  Speaker 1: they have a million hit songs. What else am I forgetting?
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  Speaker 1: Take it to the limit, witchy woman.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I feel like they have I feel like,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is kind of your point, is kind
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  Speaker 6: of giving your point, but like I feel like it's
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  Speaker 6: great just background music if you're just like driving in
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  Speaker 6: a car and don't really feel like paying super attention.
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  Speaker 5: It's just kind of soothing and easy.
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  Speaker 6: So I guess I see your point that, like it's
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  Speaker 6: maybe be weird for them to be like your favorite band,
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  Speaker 6: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: The nineteen This is, according to Wikipedia, the nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: six Eagles Great their Greatest Hits album is the best
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  Speaker 1: selling album in the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I've always been a thing.
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  Speaker 4: YE think it's the only greatest Hits to be that
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  Speaker 4: high up, too, like to be that significantly high up
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  Speaker 4: in that list.
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  Speaker 1: And this doesn't even have a Hotel California on it,
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  Speaker 1: because Hotel California hadn't come out It's taken Easy, Witchy Woman,
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  Speaker 1: Lion I has already gone Desperado one of these nights,
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  Speaker 1: Tequila Sunrise, take It to the Limit, Peaceful, easy Feeling.
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  Speaker 2: And Best of My Love.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't know, it's great background music.
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  Speaker 3: All these can be movie titles too, to be honest
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  Speaker 3: with you, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm here with Ben and Ryan. Ben, when
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  Speaker 1: was the last time you were on the pod?
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  Speaker 6: It's been I mean, at risk of being wrong again,
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  Speaker 6: it feels like it's been a while. I know I
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  Speaker 6: said that last time and it had been like a month,
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  Speaker 6: but it feels like it's been sometime.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right this time. What's still a little
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  Speaker 2: fact check?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's been anything in twenty twenty six, right.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely not No, And it's basically it's basically April Coave space.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got oscars, the thing recapping the year,
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  Speaker 1: Pretty Woman, Gremlins.
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  Speaker 4: Would it really be October though, would it really be
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  Speaker 4: the last time?
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  Speaker 3: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I think it might be.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing Hecklifter, Yeah, October twenty six. Then, so it's
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  Speaker 1: been five months Jesus.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean Brian and I got in that
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  Speaker 5: big fight.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: While that's true, we kept understanding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, sorry, I think it's way too long
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  Speaker 1: to go without Ben. I mean Ben was appearing, like
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  Speaker 1: I feel, every other week for a while. We got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of complaints, so a lot of the what
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  Speaker 1: what Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: If Ben is the complaint? Like what who are these people?
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  Speaker 4: This is my question?
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, uh, but no.
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  Speaker 1: We are covering a very special topic today. We are
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  Speaker 1: covering the nineteen ninety five neo Western action film Desperado,
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  Speaker 1: starring Antonio Mandaras and sal Mahayak, directed by Robert Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 1: This more than maybe any movie ever, if there was
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  Speaker 1: like a mount rushmore of Ben and Tim movies, so
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  Speaker 1: like specifically not our favorite movies of all time, but
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  Speaker 1: like movies that we both were obsessed with together and
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  Speaker 1: we equally love as much, and.
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  Speaker 2: We're obsessed with Scream would be one.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Desperado I think would have to be one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say so, I would. I mean it
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  Speaker 6: could be the one. It's like, I agree, it's foundational.
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  Speaker 1: It is foundational for our friendship. It also for me personally.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: What gotta be.
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  Speaker 1: I struggle to think of a gunfight movie. That's like
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  Speaker 1: I would classify as a.
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  Speaker 2: Gunfight movie that I like more than Desperado.
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  Speaker 1: This to me is like the pinnacle of gunfight movies.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna say, like, I mean, we can talk later. There's
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  Speaker 6: there's a surge, but in general, like, are is there
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  Speaker 6: a better shootout on film that exists in this movie?
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to think we are just obsessed.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's well we'll get into the movie obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple bar shootouts and both of them are
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  Speaker 1: just amazing. But a note that I have later on
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  Speaker 1: is like this movie is to violence and gunfights and
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  Speaker 1: action as professional wrestling is to fighting, Like it's trying
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  Speaker 1: to quasi be real, but it's not really trying to
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  Speaker 1: be real, And I think it it's it walks that
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  Speaker 1: line in like a perfect way and is incredibly entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of like flying through the air,
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  Speaker 1: Like you get shot by a shotgun and then fly
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  Speaker 1: through the air twenty feet and then get shot like
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  Speaker 1: one hundred more times as you're falling backwards. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: did this is this when we were growing up, when
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  Speaker 1: we were nine, when this movie came out. It was
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time. And also
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to it, but talk about like my development
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  Speaker 1: as a heterosexual male. I mean, Salmahayak in this movie
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  Speaker 1: Mother of God. This is this is Salamahayak's breakout role.
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  Speaker 1: This is the role that like made her famous. And
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  Speaker 1: I actually said to Shannon, I said, I have to
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  Speaker 1: watch Desperado for the pod. I assume you don't know
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  Speaker 1: that movie. And she was like, what year is it?
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  Speaker 2: Who's in it?
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  Speaker 1: And I said it was nineteen ninety five. It was
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Benderis and Salamahayak and then Shannon, Shannon, who knows
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  Speaker 1: like nothing about any of these movies, she said, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like they're walking in front of an explosion. And I said, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's a very famous. Good job, Ryan. What's your what's
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  Speaker 1: what's your history with this movie?
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  Speaker 3: I'd seen it like.
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  Speaker 4: At like high school, like just kind of like either
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  Speaker 4: on like TV or whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: And then.
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  Speaker 4: As I like became obsessed with like movies and stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that, it came up because Robert Rodriguez was I think,
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  Speaker 4: especially at that point in time when we were in
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  Speaker 4: high school, he was becoming more popularly successful with like
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  Speaker 4: Sin City and stuff, so a lot of like looking
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  Speaker 4: at his old stuff was a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: So I saw I mean I definitely know it.
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  Speaker 4: Saw it like in high school or middle school, but
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  Speaker 4: consciously for the first time.
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  Speaker 3: I think I bought the DVD.
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  Speaker 4: In like two thousand and two and watched it then,
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  Speaker 4: and then I was beyond excited.
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  Speaker 3: For Once upon a Time in Mexico. When I came out,
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  Speaker 3: I was very excited to see that this.
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  Speaker 1: So this movie is part of a trilogy that directed
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  Speaker 1: by It's called the Mexico Trilogy and or the El
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  Speaker 1: Mariati Trilogy, but it's by Robert Rodriguez and for those
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  Speaker 1: for the listeners that think they don't know him, you
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  Speaker 1: definitely do. So he directed from Dustell down the Faculty,
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  Speaker 1: Once upon a Time in Mexico, Sin City, Spy Kids,
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  Speaker 1: Machete anything else.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, really big that I'm missing.
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  Speaker 3: Uh one half a grindhouse, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One half a grindhouse.
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  Speaker 1: But again, people like normal people don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, did a lot of TV.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what it's it's so funny because
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  Speaker 1: I'm praising this movie so much, is like this might
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  Speaker 1: be his third best movie to me, really like.
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  Speaker 2: It might be.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it is, but from Dustal Down and
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  Speaker 1: the Faculty I might like more than this movie.
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  Speaker 6: This is probably my favorite Roberriguez movie. The only one
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  Speaker 6: who would come closes from Dustal Don. That would be
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  Speaker 6: a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: But from Dussel Don is so similar to this in
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  Speaker 1: so many ways.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the cast is basically like the same cast, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and so yeah, and it's like, yeah, this almost
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  Speaker 4: feels like I think because they got paired together early on,
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  Speaker 4: like this feels like very tarantinoed, obviously because he's in it,
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  Speaker 4: but also just like yes, even like the text of
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  Speaker 4: the lettering and the movie and stuff like that, it
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  Speaker 4: feels very like that imprint is there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a good way.
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  Speaker 6: The dialogue is the dialogue is very Tarantino. But I mean,
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  Speaker 6: my big like takeaway with after watching this is I
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  Speaker 6: honestly had not seen this in geez, twenty years. I
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  Speaker 6: like this, everybody I don't. I don't like this one
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  Speaker 6: ounce less than I liked it twenty five years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I would say so.
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  Speaker 1: I had seen this movie probably fifty times, but I
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  Speaker 1: have also not seen it been in twenty years, because
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  Speaker 1: I really I had this on VHS and I watched
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  Speaker 1: this all the time. There were so many lines I like,
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  Speaker 1: but so I was thinking, is this not going to
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  Speaker 1: age well? And maybe it was a hair worse than
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  Speaker 1: I remembered, but for the most part, it was just
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  Speaker 1: it was awesome. Like if you just like gunfight movies, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is you know, it's exactly what it is. It's a
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  Speaker 2: neo Western.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a Western, but it takes place in modern
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  Speaker 1: day but it absolutely is a Western in every way.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is the sequel.
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  Speaker 1: So Robert Rodriguez made a movie called El Mariachi that
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  Speaker 1: was popular.
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  Speaker 2: It was sort of an independent movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Spanish, right yep, And it's about a mariachi
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  Speaker 1: guitar player who is also a criminal and his wife
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  Speaker 1: or girlfriend is killed by drug dealers so he decides
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  Speaker 1: to kill them all. And it was not with then
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  Speaker 1: Tonyo Benderis, but that was that movie. Was was like
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  Speaker 1: his directorial debut and it was sort of like an
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  Speaker 1: underground hit, and I think Tarantino loved it. So that's
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  Speaker 1: how he sort of got the the mojo with financing
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  Speaker 1: and actors and Tarantino to make Desperado. That's my understanding.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you did any research, Ryan. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not that I that you needed to have, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: If you usually watched like making of shit whenever we
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  Speaker 2: do a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Rodriga is this big thing is he was like
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  Speaker 4: when his movies came on a home video, he was
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  Speaker 4: very big into like putting making up stuff on them.
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  Speaker 4: So he was always like, such great stuff if you
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  Speaker 4: were into this kind of thing. So Rodriguez actually wrote
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  Speaker 4: a book when this movie came out, called Rebel Without
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  Speaker 4: a Crew, because.
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  Speaker 3: He financed the movie through.
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  Speaker 4: Medical testings, like he was the test subject and he
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  Speaker 4: made money off doing that.
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  Speaker 2: And you're talking about Ella Mariacchi. Are you talking about
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  Speaker 2: Desperado El Mariacci.
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  Speaker 4: But he released a book about making El Mariachi when
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  Speaker 4: Desperado came out, because he did all of it himself.
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  Speaker 4: He wrote, produce, edited, he did all the directing, He
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  Speaker 4: found the looks. His line, like I thought was really funny,
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  Speaker 4: Like reading about the book was like how he said,
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  Speaker 4: Like my line was, I had a guitar, I had
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  Speaker 4: a turtle, and I had a camera and then I
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  Speaker 4: was good to go. That's all I needed, and like,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of amazing how he talks about him making
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  Speaker 4: this stuff and making.
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  Speaker 3: Backyard movies real.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that's why you put it is that, And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why it was such an interesting thing,
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  Speaker 4: is that the real life story was so fascinating, and
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  Speaker 4: also how he stayed that way.
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  Speaker 3: Which may have hurt him later.
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  Speaker 4: But he is very much like he still writes at its, directs,
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  Speaker 4: photographs all of the movies. He doesn't really outsource anything.
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  Speaker 4: It's all done in Texas. It's very internal. There really
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  Speaker 4: is no because I to think them being released. It's
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  Speaker 4: very much all done by him to this day, which
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  Speaker 4: is pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Robert Riguez is he's from Texas, as
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  Speaker 1: Ryan said, he's from San Antonio. I think, yeah, San Antonio.
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  Speaker 1: And he's both his parents are Mexican immigrants. And he
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  Speaker 1: clearly has like a love affair with Mexico and looks
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  Speaker 1: at it in like a mythical way.
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  Speaker 2: But also one could.
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  Speaker 1: Argue accurately portrays aspects of Mexico is very shitty and dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: So Ben, you're the you're the Mexico expert out of
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  Speaker 1: the three of us. How many times have you been
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  Speaker 1: to Mexico in your life.
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  Speaker 6: I have been to Mexico a handful of times, not
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  Speaker 6: not like a ton of times. I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 6: an expert.
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  Speaker 1: Well I thought that you used to go all like,
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  Speaker 1: would you say seven times or less than that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably something like that. I've been to I've lived,
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  Speaker 6: been to Rocky Point in Cabo. I've been to Rocky
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  Speaker 6: Point like five or six times, and I've been to
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  Speaker 6: Cabo once.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I have never been to Mexico. Ryan, You've never
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  Speaker 1: been to Mexico. No, No, I went to TJ on
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  Speaker 1: the spring spring break with Ryan and Marissa and Seth.
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  Speaker 1: But Marissa odeed and Ryan foundered in an alley.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry that was the reference to the OC.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so, like we know, never heard the story before.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, so one of my notes when I was
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  Speaker 1: watching this is I was like, I'm glad thirty years
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  Speaker 1: later in Mexico is doing so much better. No cartels,
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  Speaker 1: no drugs, no violence. But there are a little sprinkles
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  Speaker 1: of American tourism in this movie, which are played for
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  Speaker 1: comedic effects.
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  Speaker 4: I was I actually watched I watched all three of
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  Speaker 4: these today because I had not seen them in forever.
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  Speaker 3: And it's amazing how I watched all three. They're actually
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  Speaker 3: super super short.
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  Speaker 4: They're all super short, Like they're all like I think,
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  Speaker 4: the first one's like eighty minutes, This one's like what yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then that one it is like it's also like
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  Speaker 4: ninety minutes.
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  Speaker 3: They're super short, and I was just dying to see
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  Speaker 3: these again.
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing how even though El Mariachi is two years
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  Speaker 4: before Desperado, there is no Taurus in Mexico, and then
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  Speaker 4: two years later it's like you have to include Taurus
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  Speaker 4: in the story somehow.
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  Speaker 1: And so Once Upon a Time in Mexico was the
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  Speaker 1: biggest release out of the three of them in the trilogy.
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  Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time Mexico was starring an Tony Bendaris
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  Speaker 1: and John dep I remember, I haven't seen it since
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  Speaker 1: it came out in the theaters.
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  Speaker 2: I was very excited.
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  Speaker 1: I think me and Ben went and saw it, I assume,
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  Speaker 1: and uh.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being very bad. Is it bad?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: My thing with it is I like what they did
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  Speaker 4: in terms of like making like quote unquote like three leads.
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  Speaker 3: I liked that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I think the big problem with it is because Rodriguez
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  Speaker 4: does everything, and I think he learned how to like
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  Speaker 4: save time and not so much cut corners. By doing
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: things more efficiently, you do lose stuff that way.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Like the movie feels almost.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Like too tight, it's too simple, and also for a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: movie that has way too much plot, it just seems
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to be like everything just kind of ends well.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: It just felt it feels kind of forced, Like it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: almost like the like after Snatch, the Jason Stath of
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: movies like lock Stock and Snatch.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Felt so just organic and it was so cool, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: then like it just.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Felt forced and just full of those kind of tropes.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: I do remember the first scene of Once upon Time.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I think it's the first scene where Giant depths. He's
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: eating like a fish and he's like, this fish is
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: so good to happen to murder the chef, and I
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: really like that for some reason.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: It definitely has like elements of like the insanity of Desperado,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: but I feel like still like they I feel like
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: they almost trying to do too much, because if like
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Willem Dafoe is like the drug cartel person, and it
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: seems like everybody wanted to be in it, so it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: like let everybody be in it, and then it kind
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: of gets a little bit mutated, and I feel like
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: what this movie shows you is like you can just
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: have these very small scale action scenes that feel big.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: There really is no plot to Desperado. I mean you
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: could explain the plot in ten seconds, and that's not
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: an insult.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Like I'm saying that there was. There's not too much
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I will say, we'll get to this later. I was
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: forgot about something in this movie and I literally gasped
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: when it happened.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm curios, I'm curious. Yeah. Then I think it's.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Actually a really really good analogy with Guy Richie because
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Lockstock was so unique and like didn't have famous people
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in it, and then Snatch had Brad Pitt in it,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so it made a huge splash. But again, it was
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like so unique and we were discovering for the first time.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And then fast forward to like The Kingsman or something
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: or something along those lines. It's almost like somebody who's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: not keep the Beekeeper. It's almost like somebody who's not
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Guy Richie thinks Sky Richie is cool and is making
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a Guy Richie ripoff movie, but that Guy Ritchie is
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: actually doing that. Like that's the way it seems do
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, totally, totally.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: I mean it happened with Tarantino in general, Like there
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: were so many pulp fiction knockoffs, some of which I loved.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: But noetheless I won't stand for any slander on the Transporter.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say that now.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Or Crank Eric Lee huge fan of Rank.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I actually joke, I actually really did. Like I liked
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: The Beekeeper a lot. Actually, I'm not kidding.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: It was really fun. Actually I just watched like two
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: weeks ago. I thought it was really fun.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I have not seen The Beekeeper and probably will.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Die having never seen The Beekeepum peacock, thanks this podcast
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: brought to you by The Beekeeper. Uh so, should we
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: just dive into the movie?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, that is coming soon.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You will shoot on something that will be an ad
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: for it after Oh absolutely.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I mean I've already done that, like we had Zin
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: as a sponsor. Oh, Chumba Casino. I shit all over
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Chumba Casino. But you mean in reverse, you mean I'll.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Shit on it and then it'll later become a sponsor.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: It'll just be like like JU just said, like, oh,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I will like never see The Beekeeper. Then like the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: ad will interrupt as usual and just be like the
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Beekeeper only on.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Peacock, available for only twenty five ninety nine, one time only.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You can never rent it again.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: One watch, one watch, and then it deletes you destroys
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: your television.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It's just smoke comes out. It's that good. Nothing will
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: be better.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: You don't need after you've seen it, you don't need
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: a TV anymore. Nothing will be better.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Well, the movie starts off with It's a very terrifying, dirty,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: ceedy Mexican bar full of low life.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: That as a.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: White American man, you would hesitate to go inside of.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And the movie starts with Steve yu Semi, who is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a white American man, just seems like obliviously confident in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: this bar, just sort of walks in and it's like
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: chatting up the bartender and patrons and seems very friendly,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and it's it's it's weird, like you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Think, like this guy's gonna get himself killed type of vibes.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Would you agree, yeah, yep?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And hethat could I have a beer? And the bartender
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is Cheech from Chichin Chung chiech Marin and he says,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: all I have is piss warm Chungo Chongo is the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: brand of beer, and he says, that's my favorite. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he loudly looks around says I'm lucky to be alive
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: right now. And they're like, what do you mean? And
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: he starts to tell a story, and as he's telling
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the story to this bar, everybody slowly starts.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Listening to what he's saying.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And as he's describing the story, you actually see it happening.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: As he's describing it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And the way that it's shot is he's telling the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: story of what just happened to him in this other
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: bar in Mexico, but he's telling it as if it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a tall tale, and it's shot as if it's a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: tall tale, Like it's shot in a way that's utterly ridiculous,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: like the way things go down and the story he's telling.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, I was up a few towns away,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, Sarah Gusa, Sarah Goosa. I was visiting a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: bar there, not on like this one. They serve beer,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not quite as good as this, but close. I saw
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: something there you wouldn't believe.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: This bar, it was full of real lives, but not
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like this place here. No, I mean like up to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: no good, you know what I'm saying. Anyway, I'm all
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: by myself. I like it that way. Meanwhile, things are
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: going on under the table, kind of things, not obvious,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: but not too secret either. So I'm sitting there and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: then walks the biggest Mexican I've ever seen, big as shit,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: just walks in like he owns the place. Dark too,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean dark skin, No, this was different.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's as if he was walking in a shadow. I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: mean every step he took towards the light, just when
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you thought his face was about to be revealed, it wasn't.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It was just if the light's dimmed just for him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And when he's describing that, they do that effect where
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Antonio Bendarus is walking into the light and then the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: light retreats as his face is about to be revealed.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I thought that was so.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Cool, yeah, and I thought, like, that's gonna be difficult
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to set up. So this guy takes a seat at
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the bar, asks the bartender for a soda pop, sits
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: back and says nothing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And they're all like he was ordered soda pop, yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Wasn't interested in his drink Nope, I was interested in
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: what he was carrying, some sort of suitcase or something.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He set that thing on the stool beside him as
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: if it was his girl. Then all of a sudden,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he grabs the bartender and starts whispering something to him.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And you could tell he was talking business.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He said a name, something like bitch, sure, Butcho. And
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: when he says Butcho, everybody in the bar turns and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: stares at him. That's what it was, Butcho. Well, whatever
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: he said pissed off the bartender plenty, and those unsavory
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: characters I was telling you about. They got pissed too,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: started pulling guns and knives and what have you, started
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: talking some shit. So the stranger jumps off the stool
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe. He grabs his case, dives in
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the middle of the floor. He's up in two shakes,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: pulling god knows what out of the case. But it
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: was the biggest hand cannon I've ever fucking seen.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And that was just the beginning.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So he pulls out this it's I guess it's a shotgun,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but like, how do you describe what happens from here?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Ben?
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: It's like a gatling gun. Shotgun kind of.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: And to your point, he just, uh, he kills everyone
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: of the bar in just comical cartoon cartoon character ways.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean these people are exploding. They are.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: He will shoot somebody with a shotgun and they will
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: fly fifty feet across the bar and stroy whatever they
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: land on, destroys whatever on.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like announce their table wrestling level destruction. It's unreal.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And because you're not seeing this firsthand, what you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: seeing is the story he's telling, you're kind of taking
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt. It's it's intentionally you
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: know it's gonna be unrealistic, but there's a grain of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: truth in what he's telling. And so he kills everybody
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in the bar. He says, this bar was full of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: world class turns. They got what they deserved. So he
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: grabs one of the guys, the only one's still breathing,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and he starts talking to him. You could tell this
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: guy was giving up all the goods, spilling his guts.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: He told that stranger everything. And then in the middle
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of the story, he says to Cheech, hey, can I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: have a cleaner mug? This one's dirty. This is the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: type of bar that you would never ever do that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So Cheech is really interested. He says, did you see
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: his face? And he goes, no, I saw his eyes.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Did you do anything to you? No, because he turned
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: his attention to the guy on the floor and he
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: walked over to the bar, paid and left. And Cheech
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: is very happy at the end of that story because
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: because do you remember why Ryan.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Bart bartender never gets.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yep, bartender never gets anything. But he says, no, the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: bartender got it worst of all, because what did the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: bartender do.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: The bartender pulls a gun as he as he's leaving.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: The bartender pulls a gun.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: And he didn't really get it worse than I didn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: really understand that. He mean, he just got He just got.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: One blast to the face, which is exactly what everyone
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: else got. So he didn't really get it worse than anyone,
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: but he did get it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And then she says to Steve, you send me.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a beer on the house if you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: can remember his face, and Stebe Siddy says thanks, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: no thanks. I'm clearing out of here, boys because I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: think he's headed up this way. Well, thank you boys,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: You all take care now and then he's like patting
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: them on the back, and it reminded me of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: scene that Ben and I Love and Ten Things I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Hate About You where the guy goes up to like
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a group of bikers playing pool and picks up one
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of their balls and he just confidently walks out of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: the bar. And that's our introduction to like the story
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of El Mariachi. This this tall tale character that allegedly
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: carries a guitar.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Case full of guns.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Just fantastic, fantastic opening scene, one of the better opening
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: scenes to set the stage like such a cool gunfight,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: just amazing, really just got me into it. Obviously I've
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: seen this movie a ton before, but after that scene,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, I'm sure you're feeling the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: same same way Ben.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Actually, to be honest, the next scene, the credit scene,
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: might have gotten me more.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Explain Explain the credit scene.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: So the credit scene is showing El Mariachi and his
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: band at a bar, and this just to me just
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: describes how much of the man he is. So he's
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: at the bar, he's playing like beautiful Mariacci music. He's
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: very very good singer, he's very very good at guitar,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: during this While this is happening, someone attempts to rob
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: a woman at the bar at knife point, and he
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: walks across the bar and then smacks the guy in
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: the face with his guitar while singing and playing like
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: doesn't stop the song and like saves a woman from
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Robert from robbery.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: The whole bar is.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Cheering and he's just playing guitar. And to me, that
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: just describes Mariachi. He's just the man beyond in a
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: way that really they never described why, but he just
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: is almost like a superhero.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I I loved this song. I don't know Spanish,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but I had it on my iPod. I had it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: on a mixed CD back in the day. But just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like I know, I don't know how to speak Spanish,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but like I remember the lyrics and I was singing
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: along watching it last night.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Magusta what is it?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Mag guitar magusta quatar else song Mariacci ma compagna cuando
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: tunco men And then the chorus.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Is I a AI.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I even more love this song, and I think it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Antonio Mander's actually performing the singing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Yes, it is, yeah, great.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I also wish they used like when the text shows
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: up of Desperado like on the screen. I wish they
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: used that like font in like the rest of the
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: stuff in.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: The movie clicked. The posters and like the video covers
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: were always a different font. I just liked that one.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know why. I always thought it was cool.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I love that font too. And also, this movie has
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: an amazing poster. It's just it's him like praying onto
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a gun. Uh, fantastic, very simple.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Covered the soundtrack too, Yeah, great one nice.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he he smacks that guy in the face
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: with his guitar, and then it seems like there's sort
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of a dream sequence because it changes too. And this
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: always confused me because I hadn't seen El Mariachi. But
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I guess the villain in El Mariachi is in this
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: like dream sequence and then he's not in the rest.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Of the movie.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's Moco, the villain.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So explain.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: So, like you said, at the beginning, his uh girlfriend
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: was killed, he was tracking, he was confusingly mixed up
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: with an other guy who's.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: A famous.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Cartel person, and that's why he kind of gets enveloped
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: in this whole situation. And this guy, this villain who
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: shows up in the white suit is the one who
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: shoots his hand, and he quote unquote can't play anymore,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: even though he's doing pretty damn good. Also, the guy
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: next to him when he lights the cigarette the match
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: on his face is also the same henchman from the
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: first movie, and he's the that guy the entire movie.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And the girlfriend in the ending scene, they pretty much
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: did it shot for shot, like the exact thing thing
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: that happens, just with Ben Derrison in it as opposed
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: to the other actor.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the cartel killed his girlfriend and then shot
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: him in the hand, and he's a guitar player, so
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you can't have a hand injury. I did notice an
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: error in this scene. When the villain lights a match
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: on his henchman's cheek, you can see the the like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: match friction paper taped to his cheek. Oh really, I've
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: never noticed that before.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: In my life, but until I watched it last night.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm curious if like I thought it was
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: kind of odd because one thing about El Mariachi was
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that the villain was very disliked because he was actually
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: a American from Texas. M was like speaking Spanish the
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: whole time, but like his name is Mauricio and it's
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: like the Italian spelling, and they just people just did
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: not like him. That's why they actually shortened his name
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: to Mocho so people would just think he was Spanish.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: But he's like that guy who's like a person from Texas.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's like a Texas like game designer or
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: something in real life. Okay, yeah, that's cool to see them.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I also love throughout this movie when Antotio Bendaris is walking,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you hear the stirrup sound. Yeah, it's just a really cool,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like little metallic clang that you you see.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Are you hearing Cowboy movies?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: His outfit is sick.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: He has like the pants with all the zippers almost
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: like Michael Jackson.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes he does. And he he.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Has six boots. He has sick boots. And he has
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a scorpion jacket. Now I didn't want to overthink things,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: but I know that in the movie Drive, Ryan Gosling
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: has a scorpion jacket and it's based on the aesop
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: fable The Scorpion and the Frog, where like a scorpion
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: basically a scorpion asks a frog can I cross? Can
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you give me a ride? Across the river, and the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: frog says, no, yeah, I can't trust you. You're a scorpion.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: You'll sting me. And the scorpion says, I'm not gonna
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: do that because if I sting you and we're in
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the middle of the river, well both you'll drown and.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Then I'll drown.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So why on earth would I sting you while you're
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: helping me across the river? So the frog says cool,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: scorpion hops on. They're swimming across the river. The scorpion
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: stings the frog in the middle of the river and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: they both start to drown, and the frog looks at
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: him and says, why would you do that? And he says,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: because I'm a scorpion, So I in drive. It's because
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling is a ghetaway driver, so he's like the frog,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and you can't transport scorpions like it's to come back
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to sting you. And in Desperado, I thought maybe it's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a reference to that, and maybe he's the scorpion because anyone,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: any civilian's life he gets involved with, their life is
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: completely ruined if they're not killed.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: So uh, Tony Sopranos cites the scorpion of the Frog
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: to Davey Scatino.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a you can't be a frog.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: It's a really bad idea. But so Steve, you sent
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: me meets up with Antonio Mandaras and he was like, hey,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: they I met. I mentioned Buco at that bar. They
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: seem really freaked out. I think that Butcho is involved
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in that bar. And Antonio Avanderas is like, I'm gonna
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go check out that bar, and he says,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: don't make it a bloodbath like last time.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, do you know him.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Also, there's never an explanation to their relationship at all.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: There's no explanation to so many things.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like why is this white American?
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, why is this guitar player like Jason Board? Basically?
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Also, I wanted to mention this. I forgot to talk
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: about this. So this is from the Wikipedia page for Desperado.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: After this movie was submitted to the NPAA, it was
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: rated NC seventeen due to graphic violence. It to be
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: severely cut fro an R rating. I mean a lot
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of ways, the country right now is worse and our
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: culture is worse. Not gonna lie in many ways, it's better.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And I think that the NPAA is no longer really
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a thing, and rating movies X or NC seventeen is
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: not really a thing in the way it used to be.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like, there's no way in fucking hell this
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: would be rated NC seventeen if it was rated in
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six by the NPAA.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: No, no, I agree, and it says it is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: I will say in sick bet and as a kid,
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: appreciated this like it is a lot bloodier and goryer
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: than your standard like Arnold action movie. Like when people
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: get shot, blood gushes out.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: There's like agreed.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Also think if you, yeah, if they removed another scene
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: that comes up later, it probably would be fine and
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: get in er.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: That's just my theory.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and uh, there's a couple of things that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'll mention later that was cut. Made me very sad
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that it was cut. But he so, there was a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: large scale shootout at the end of the movie at
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: BCO's mansion that was entirely cut out of the film.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: They filmed it and it was.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Entirely cut, which kind of makes sense.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll talk later. The ending like is kind of
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: that was one thing. If there's one thing that I
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: was didn't like as much what you just referred to,
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: I'll talk about later.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so Stevie Sammy says, when Butcho this guy
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you're after, when Bucco's dead, what happens? And he says,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: when it was he's dead, it's over.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I walk away. I no longer kill drug dealers. I'm
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I just go live on with.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: My life, which is a very unrealistic thing to think
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: if you're putting yourself in that situation. That's like Omar
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: saying if Avon dies, then it's over, or if Marlow
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: dies then it's over, you know. But Antonio Mandaris is
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: now hitchhiking along the highway and we see Danny Trey
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Howe drive by Danny Trey Howe who's been in nine
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: hundred million movies at this point, but this was his
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: acting debut, Is that right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: This is I maybe not? This is the same year
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: as Heat.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: And yeah, this is this to me is his like
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: origin story because I know Machete is literally based on this,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: but to me, Michette is basically based on this, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: every Danny Treo character is basically this after this, Yes
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: to me, like I would call it his ord.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, his he was in movies way before this.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at his Wikipedia page, but this was the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: first time he had like this big of a role.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But also Heat, which came out the same year. It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: kind of funny, lucky year for him.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Say it again, of course.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: So he's actually a pretty decent person in Heat, which
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: is kind of funny, like comparatively to everything else he plays.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he he looks like a scumbag.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like whatever you want to mirow Man,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: like I'm down.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So Butcho is introduced to this point. Butcho was recently
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: in the Roadhouse remake, so he didn't. He hasn't really
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: aged terribly. He looks pretty much the same. But he
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: was the villain in the Roadhouse remake.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: With Jake jollen All Ben. I don't know if you've
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: seen that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I haven't. I need too.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, It's worth it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. He's not he's not the villain, he's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like the mayor or something. But I really enjoyed the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Roadhouse remake.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Ryan, go ahead.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: When I was a kid, I thought Steve Gutenberg was
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: bo I thought was Steve Gutenberg.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I could see that. I honestly could see that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: You know, he's funny.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: For years I always thought the guy who played his
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: name was Christophe The fuck is the last thing? Christoph Lambert.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: He played Raiden Mortal Kombat movie the nineties.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: One.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Another Tim Ben and Tim movie was The Fortress starring
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Christopher Lambert.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: This guy also, maybe more famously known to people now
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: is the villain and f five harn and Reyes in
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Fast five.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I haven't seen Fast five. Yeah, he's well,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Christopher Lambert's biggest role is Highlander, so we should Highlander
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna mention him. But yeah, The Fortress was
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: a classic.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: So this is, uh.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Something I didn't understand about this movie is they in
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: this scene, it's like Bucho has this compound and it
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: reminded me very much of like a final boss in
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a video game. He lives in like a ford and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: he has all these henchmen with guns, and there's this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: origin story for one of the henchmen's that is brought
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there to audition for him, and he gets in a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: kickboxing match with this guy named Christos and it's very violent.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: The New Origin story, Henchman gets his leg disgustingly broken,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: but he ends up winning the fight and because of that,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Butcho hires him.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: There was no.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Point to his character arc at all, and I just
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: didn't understand his character, Like why did they keep making
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: him a thing throughout the movie when it ended up
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: there was no payoff, It never mattered.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: I think it's simply like that fight scene is cool
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: and they want to excuse to do that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people, people are willing to do for Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy is an insane chin the guy that
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: gets his leg broken, he takes like fifteen shots from
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Christo's bare knuckle, many spinning kicks to the face, and
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: he's like fine.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Uh so.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Butcho just seems like a not a good guy. He's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a cartel kingpin. He's dressed well, he lives in a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: nice house.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I love Butcho's girlfriend.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really talk, but she just seems bad. She
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: reminded me almost of like Mercy and DC comics Ryan, Oh, okay,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I got youa like Lex Luthor's sexy driver who's actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a bodyguard.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: She reminded me a little bit of from GoldenEye.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of on the top Yep, yeah, okay,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: she is shadow fan Kee Jensen also in the Faculty
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the Robber.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Every I guess.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: And this is the first scene with female tourists, so
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: these cheech It cuts back to this disgusting dive bar
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: where cheaches the bartender and he's talking to like this
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Bo's henchman, and these American tourists go in go up
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: to him to complain about the service. And my favorite
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: moment about this scene is Bucho's henchman gestures to him
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: like and he doesn't say this, but you know, he's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: gesturing like should we kill them?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: And then she is like, no, no, no, no, we don't
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: need to kill them. But Ryan, what do the American
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: tourists say?
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Basically that they're looking for the waiter was they went
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: to the bathroom and he didn't come back, and she
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: just like, you may not want him to. She was like,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: service here was terrible. This is the money for a
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: bill and there's no money for a tip. And he's like, oh,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: come on, if you don't, I won't ask you out.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: And she's like and your beer tastes like this, And
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I love just goes, we know, and I love the
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: guy next to him.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: She goes pissing it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we pissing it, you know. That's this
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: is always kind of fascinating to me about Mexico. Like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the episode of the OC where they go to TJ,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: which is Tijuana and Marissa gets like totally like od's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: on some drug and then passes out in an alley.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And American tourists go to very dangerous parts of Mexico
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and I don't understand that. So I think it's like
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a funny thing that it's this little dive town in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere that's run by a cartel, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: there's this disgusting dive bar that is frequented by cartel members,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and these pretty American girls who taught who have like
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: valley girl accents, casually go there because they're in Mexico,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure shit like that happens, you know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, also just like no sense of danger in their mind.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: They're going to do this, yeah and be totally fine.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the townspeople wouldn't go into this bar, the
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: townspeople that live there, never mind an American girl that's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be like murdered and sex trafficked.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I mean they were literally discussing before they walked in
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: about how like should we do pay this guy or
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: say or kill him and save the money.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: And they're like, we got a mortgage. We gotta kill
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: him and save the money.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and Cheech is like, no, let's not kill
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: these American terrorists because it'll just be it'll bring too
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: much attention.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: That's it's just not worth it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But it's it's funny that you suggested we just kill them.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So at this point, which I really like this song
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that plays, it kind of goes there's it's, uh, you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: just hear like a drum beat and it goes ooh ah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and that's uh, Tarantino walks in. Quentin Tarantino. He's a director.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: From my understanding, m hmm, yeah, is that he's there.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with any of the movies he's done, Ryan.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: We've never done them on this show, if not all
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: of them. Yeah, he's on pulp fiction up until this point,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Reservoir Dogs. This is ninety five. So yeah, Romance just
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: came out. Wrote tru Romance right, wrote to Romance. I
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: think four Rooms, the ben favorite is out at this
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: time too all right, or the four rooms really pathetic?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Really pathetic four rooms story is. I don't know why,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: but I felt like a competition with Ben. I felt
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: like jealous that Ben got to see movies that his
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: parents would allow him to see movies that I wasn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: allowed to see because they rated are or they were
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: violent or something, or their sex in it. And I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: was very jealous because I just wanted to watch movies
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: all the time. And I lied that I saw four Rooms,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: like for years.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I lied and with this like last year too, yes, And.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Then Ben brought up four Rooms.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yeah, you're a big four rooms guy,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Like we've always known that you love four rooms. I said, Ben,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I never saw it in mind to you for like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: twenty five years that I.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Saw Rodriguezdrec's one of the segments. Yeah, h with Banders.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for was great, forum was great. You should do
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: it sometimes.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: But pathetic. I also lied.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I also lied one time and I said that I
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: saw Romeo and Juliet with Leo in the theater and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you brought up in front of my dad and my
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: dad was.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Like, you didn't see it in the theater, what are
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you talking?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: About and I was just like giving him death stories.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did, because that's PG thirteen, right, is that r?
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's PG thirteen.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Still I couldn't. I couldn't go to the theater.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Because I was at an age where I would never
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: be able to.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Just go alone.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So if I wasn't being brought by a guardian,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I'd be going with Ben, you know what I mean, Like,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: who else would I go with.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna preasure like you Like, I cut school and
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: the principal tried to stop me, so I pull out
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: a knife and they let me go.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: And it's like watch him less.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I went with my girlfriend.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Oh I remember, there's this kid that Ben and I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: used to torment and we think that one day he's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: gonna kill us in an act of revenge because he
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: later joined the Marines. But we were like we were
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: like ten and he was eight. I mean, we were
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: very young, and he told us because he was clearly
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: trying to impress us. You know, kids just like lie. Kids,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Some kids just lie. Like there was a kid that
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I think I've told this story on the podcast. There's
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: this pathological liar kid that said he found a battle axe.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: And the bushes at middle school, and I was like,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: let's go see the battle axe and we go to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the into the bush and he's like, oh, it's gone.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: But this kid told us.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: He was like, there's a girl in class that I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: think is really hot named Marissa, and she slept over
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: last night. He's like eight years old, and we had
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: sex and me and Ben were.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Just like, no, this did not happen.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: And then eventually, after we berated him, he walked it
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: back and he was like, all right, we we didn't
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: have sex, but she did sleep over in my bed
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and we were like no, there's there's no way.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Then he walked it back.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: She did sleep over in separate rooms, and we were
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: like no, your parents and her parents would not allow
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you to have her sleep over. And then eventually he
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: said like, yeah, I made it all up.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: He should have said gun. That's more believable. Honestly, find.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It was like a Viking battle axe, that's what he said.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: We had a friend whose uncle killed Hitler.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Remember, yes, yeah, it is f Wow, that's crazy.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a kid named Dan. He told us in
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: elementary school his uncle killed Hitler. And then we found
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: out that Hitler committed suicides, and then we made fun
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of him and said.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, your uncle's Hitler. If your uncle killed Hitler. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, my uncle.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: First of all, this is like ninety two, so like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: how old is your uncle?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, my uncle.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: My uncle was a soldier in World War two and
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: he was the one that killed Hitler.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Like oh wow, what a coincidence.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Here's the plan.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: We're gonna send in a child maybe I don't know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: four or five, but your uncle was.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: The one that did it. Your your uncle is the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: one that finally did it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: AnyWho, So Quinn Tarantino walks in to this the cheach bar,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and he sits down at the at this on a stool,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I gotta tell you, this beer
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: makes me think of a joke. And Ben and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: loved this scene in this joke. I remember just thinking
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: this was the funniest thing I'd ever heard. I rewound
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: it and watched it over and over and over again.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Do you have.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Similar memories, Ben?
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, So I have the dialogue.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: For Tarantino's joke.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So this is what Tarantino, who's a stranger, walks out
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: of the bar tells cheech the bar tend this. So
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: this guy comes into a bar, walks up to the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: bartender and says, bartender, I got me a bet for you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet you three hundred dollars, but I can
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: piss into that glass over there and not spell a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: single solitary drop. The bartender looks, I mean we're talking
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like this glass is a good ten feet away.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: He says, no.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Wait, let me get this straight. You're trying to tell
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: me you're gonna give me. You're gonna bet me three
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars that you can piss standing over here, way
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: over there, into that glass and not spill a single drop.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Customer looks up and says, that's right. Bartender says, young man,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta bet. The guy goes, okay, here we go,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Here we go, pulls out his thing. He's looking at
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the glass. Man, he's thinking about the glass. He's stinking
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: about the glass.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Glass, he's thinking about the glass, think about his dick
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: dick glass, dick glass, dick glass, dick glass, dick glass.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And then phoosh, he lets it rip and he pisses
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: all over the place. Man, he's pissing on the bar.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: He's pissing on the stools, on the floor, on the phone,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: on the bartender. He's pissing everywhere except the fucking glass, right, okay,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: so bartender, he's laughing his fucking ass off. He's three
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars richer. He's like, ha ha, piss trip it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: all over his face.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Ha.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: He says, you fucking idiot, man, you got it in
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: everything except the glass. You owe me three hundred dollars.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Punta guy goes all right, excuse me, just one second,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: just one little second. He goes into the back of
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the bar, and in the back there's a couple of
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: guys playing pool. He walks over to them, comes back
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to the front of the bar and says, here you go,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: mister bartender, three hundred dollars. And the bartender's like, oh,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what the fuck are you so happy about? You just
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: lost three hundred dollars, idiot. The guy says, well, you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: see those guys playing pool back there. I just bet
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: them five hundred dollars a piece that I could piss
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: on your bar, piss on your floor, piss on your phone,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and piss on you, and not only would you not
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: be mad about it, you'd be happy.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: The end.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I thought that was me when I was ten years old.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: Not only do I think it was super funny, I
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: just thought it was so clever. Like I remember telling
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: people just like I would tell adults just because I
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: would be like, this is so clever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: It's gonna blow their mind.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Like this guy is a genius. Oh my god.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: And what is ch Cho's reaction to the joke.
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: He's a little nervous at first, and then.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: He really likes it. He after after right, he laughs
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: very hard after after a.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Few seconds, and then he pulls out a gun and
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: murders the person that came in with Tarantino.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, and he says he didn't check out.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tarantino is covered in blood and he's just looking
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: over next to him, and she just like, yeah, you
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: checked out.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: But your friend in He's like.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, I just met him today.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And this is another classic moment that we love. Ben,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: do you want to describe out of order, which is
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: as far as functionality of a secret drug?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Den? I do think this is a genius move.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it is so After that, she says to
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Quentin like, hey, I want to come back here, and
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: they go back like Tim said, they're drug den and
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: the secret door is in their bathroom. It says there
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: is there is one stall that says out of order.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: When you open that door, the toilet is.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: Every inch of the stall is covered in sequel matter,
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: literally every inch, and there is like a sliding back
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: door to open. It's very, very disgusting.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: It's as if somebody wasn't going to have torrential explosive
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: diarrhea and they went into the stall, pulled their pants down,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: bent over, and just did a three sixty as the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: diarrhea came out. That's what the inside of the saul
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: looks like. Our friend Mike Barball loved this and like
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: to have a hidden door into a drug den and
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the diarrhea bathroom. No one's gonna try that door. No
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: one ever's gonna try that door. So it's very smart.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take a moment to talk about gun
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: ownership and violence in film for a second, because don't worry, Ryan.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Don't worry. Don't worry.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I can't see you on camera, but I want I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: want Ryan's face visible to me right now. So Ben,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and I love that you live in Arizona, Ben, but
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you do not own a gun, correct, I do not know.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Do you have any desire to own a gun?
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: I do kind of have a desire to own a gun.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have a slight desire to own a gun,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: like I would have if there if gun laws Massachusetts.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: It is a pain in the ass to get a
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: gun license in Massachusetts. It's like getting a college degree.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: So I just don't I don't care enough. But if
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: it was just like, hey, go to Walmart, buy a gun,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I would probably buy a shotgun just for you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I just like to be have like that zombie Apocalypse.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: One in a million chants.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: At least I'll have a gun if some shit goes down.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: But otherwise I have no desire to own a gun.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable around guns. I don't really want
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: to own a gun. And this movie like made me
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: obsessed with guns as a little kid. And I loved
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: movies with gun violence. I loved buying toy guns, playing
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: with toy guns like my whole life, video games with guns,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: killing people in video games violence. And this was in
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the nineties when there was so much shit about you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: satanic panics about violence and children and video games ruining them.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: None of it just none of it had an effect.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Not a violent person, I don't. I feel very liberal,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like left wing about gun laws. Don't own a gun,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: don't like I just I'm sort of to me, I'm
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a case, as are you, Ben that the consumption
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: of all like the nineties gun violence culture didn't make
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: us become you know, Dylan and Eric from Columbine, you
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean I think myself.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: I mean I was obsessed with guns and like violence,
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: and yeah, like as an adult, I'm very like anytime
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: I've been around violence in my life, like like even
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: like a fight at a bar. Like I just I'm
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: very turned off by violence, like it, you know, it
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: doesn't it makes me sad, but like, yeah, I was
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: utterly obsessed with guns and violence.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like rock music, music with violent lyrics
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and curse words. I mean, Marilyn Manson is personally responsible
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: for Columbine in my opinion, as officially that's the cuff
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: basement take of Tim and Ryan but.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: In space.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: But I just, yeah, I don't think it had any
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: effect on me, and I think it was all bullshit.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that there are certain kids who
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: have problematic mental health or like chemical composition already and
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't help them. But I just don't think that
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you can take a normal kid and bombard them with
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: violence gun violence and movies and video games and rap
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: music and make them violent. I just don't think that's
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: possible because of what I went through. So but I
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: can see it definitely being harmful for certain You know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: if you have a kid that, like the the Sandy
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Hook kid who had a lot of issues and then
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: his mother was like, hey, why don't we try guns?
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Like that maybe wasn't a great idea. You know, maybe
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: if you're if you notice your son is like harming
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: squirrels or harming the family dog, you shouldn't buy him
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: a really violent video game. Like sure, I think that that's.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: The case, but I feel like a lot of younger
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of definitely, like when we were younger,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: like boys.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: That was a very big thing.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: There was like that phase of like being fascinated by
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: weapons and like buying like this sort of like either
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: like airsoft or like toy versions of guns.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, my parents were worried about me. I was
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: so obsessed with guns and violent movies.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Like my parents are worried about me, but it definitely
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: made Yeah, I agree that you're.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Saying, Tim. I think I think some of the.
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I think video games have become so like people like
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: I think teenagers have gotten so into video games and
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: spend so much time. I think that the multiplayer shooter
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: games have caused I think there's some.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Causation of that, like you said, with people who.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Are already.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Already predisposed or whatever.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: But I definitely don't think like a normal person just
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: watches a violent movie and then decide to pick up
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: a gun.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I think that part of the reason is not nearly
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: as bad anymore, in my opinion, because we don't really
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: have these Satanic panics as much anymore. I mean, the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: most recent one was Cuties. That was a pretty big
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: like satanic panic, And by that, I'm referring to this
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: trend that like swept the entire nation in the eighties,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: where people all across America genuinely thought that Satanism was
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: a huge problem and there were like cabals of Satanists
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: in every major city. People really did think that, Like
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: read the Wikipedia page for the Satanic Panic, and it
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: led to so many things like Judas priest going on
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: trial and all this ridiculous bullshit people teachers getting arrested
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: who are completely innocent. But I think that the Internet
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and social media that's why cuties was so surprising to me,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Or like pulling gay books off of shelves in school.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: It's like your son that's not reading this gay book
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: in the school library, he's the Internet. Like, do you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: have any idea how easy it is to watch porn
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: or watch someone really die, Like you can go on
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Twitter right now and to find one thousand, ten thousand
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: videos of real deaths like happening live on video, Like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I'll google, I'll google like Scarlet Johansson and then what
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the results will be, like fake porn of her because
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I don't have any safe searches on I mean, this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: is I don't understand if we are in a world
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: of social media and social we know that social media
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: is so harmful, especially because I love that YouTube and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Instagram recently lost that court case that's hilarious, But like,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: why would we ever complain about a CD when we
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: have social.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Media and the Internet.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: So I just don't really think this is much of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: a thing anymore.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Ryan, go ahead, No, say, I agree.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: I think it's just more of like cats out of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: the back and also like there was something you could
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: individually isolate and choose, like you mentioned it, like you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: could choose Marilyn Manson to be like, Okay, this is
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: the thing where picking is the cause of this. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: it was probably a lot easier back then to have
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: some kind of push with that, where now it's like
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: there's just no way, it's just way too widespread.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: H Yeah, yeah, because because you couldn't. You can't hang
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: your head on Marilyn Manson. If the cops then look
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: at your son's laptop. If Eric and Dylan's laptops were
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: looked at by the cops and they were on X
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and they watched like nine hundred hours of porn, you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: can't really blame Marilyn Manson when there's all those other factors, you.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but the sorry going back to the movie
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: for a second, because I think we need to bring
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: it to a part two. I think where we should
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: end is Antonio Bendarris walks into the bar that Quentin
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Tarantino is in with Cheech. That's see, Sammy was into
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the movie. He walks in with a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: guitar case and they all say, what's in your guitar case?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: He says, oh, I'm just a mariachi.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Looking for work, and they all pull out guns and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: hold guns to him, and they say, no, nope, we'll
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: open your guitar case. If there's just a guitar inside,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: we'll let you go. But we think you're the guy
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that carries around a guitar case full of guns, and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: that's where we will leave you on that cliffhanger and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: bring it to a part too.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, any other thoughts before we go, gentlemen.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: No, that's it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, catch you on the what's catch you on
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the flip in Spanish?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Google Translate. This is really important.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Google translate Spanish, all right, and we're gonna say catch
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: There's no way this is going to translate well, you know.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Like a version of it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it translates to audios.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Is that what you just did?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying no, I'm just saying like my mother
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: trying to do it.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, enter text it is knows vemos a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: love ulta. Let's see what the if I reverse translate
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: how that comes out? See you when I get back.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Sure that's good enough.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I love Velta