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Episode 3 | Tyler Reasor · Age Groupers

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: So what's our intro gonna be?
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, these groupers.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_02: Pion, peom, pion, pum.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_02: We're recording.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, good.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, first I want to see you do these pull-ups.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: I may not get to ten, but I can do them with the four right here.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on the way.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: One.
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  SPEAKER_02: Two.
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  SPEAKER_02: Three.
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  SPEAKER_02: Four.
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  SPEAKER_02: Five?
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: Almost.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'll give you six.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: Seven?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: No! Seven and a half.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, that's that's like six and a half more than I can do.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: So that was impressive.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: What have you been working out on?
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: The hips, the bum?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: How body can get?
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually That was pretty impressive.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually saw a tip that helped me the other day.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm gonna be breathing heavy for a couple minutes.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know if that makes a clip or not, but for anyone who's listening, Zach Vikrunn just knocked out seven and a half pretty solid uh pull-ups.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: So the tip that I learned that changed it for me was people just tend to just want to pull straight up.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to pretend like you're trying to break the bar.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: And that engages like more muscles in your back.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: After I sweat out a gallon, I might try that after that.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not gonna bend, but try to bend it.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: Good tip.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: Good tip.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: So um I think we might bore people for an hour and a half.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: So we're just gonna jump right into this one.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think if you want a guy's gonna get ready.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hour.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: Hour.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: Got bedtime coming.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I, for one, am really excited about this one personally, because we've got uh Tyler Reeser, uh, who is uh pretty much the president of RunDad Run, co-founder, um just uh all around, fantastic, kind of terrible guy.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: And um now an ultrarunner, right?
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, got a hundred K under my bell.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: 100k.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: We want to talk about that here in a little bit.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: But um if uh if you don't mind, our our listeners probably want to know who you are.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: So just can you give us a little spill about yourself?
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like Lanny said, uh name's Tyler Reaster, uh, one of the co-founders of Run Dad Run, uh, father of two, got a four-year-old and a seven-month old.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just kind of picked up the the passion for mentally and physically exhausting myself about three years ago, and we've kind of hit the ground running and not letting off just yet.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, we've me and Zach, we've been talking about uh our a little bit about our war stories and and why uh why we kind of why we kind of did what we uh we do, I guess.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I want to ask you, you know, what what uh I mean were you were you an athlete back in high school?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: Were you like did you play sports?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: What what's your what's your background?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm like opposite probably of most stories you hear.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh how so play played sports probably in middle school, hung it up after that, grew, grew up in a a small rural uh farming area, so showed animals through 4-H and FFA, and that was more important to me in high school, and uh was was pretty heavy size-wise, and finally junior year of high school decided it was time to lose some weight, transitioned to college, kept on that trend, and uh had some fluctuations there.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_03: And uh after probably the oldest being born, just decided it's all picture and said something's gotta change.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: And probably about a little over three years ago, kind of started on a weight loss journey.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this was pre-running, and uh about today, probably 80 pounds down, and I think I could run circles around myself, you know, 10 years younger version of me.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Incredible.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: 80 pounds is a big deal.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: 80 pounds is insane.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's impressive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any amount of weight lost in a weight loss journey to improve yourself is good.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: But 80 pounds is a whole nother level.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: I saw I saw a reel the other day where some guy was like, uh he had lost an incredible amount of weight and he was like carrying like those bags and he's like running, running with myself like three years ago.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: He's kind of shedding it on this.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, that throw an 80-pound vest on.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: Can you go run a mile?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_03: I've tried walking on an incline with the 20-pound pack on and I can barely do it.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like, how did I how did I physically do this beforehand?
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think I saw that photo you shared the other day where you were like your kind of your transformation.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was just seen one and it was like, all right, something's gotta change.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_03: I need to I need to be able to beat the little ones in a foot race for a long while has kind of been my thought process.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: So um did you uh I I you might have said it, uh, but you were you're an you're an ag guy, so you didn't consider yourself an athlete back in the day?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, I was I guess your lineman potential, you know, uh had that had a coach in high school parents forced me to go to two days freshman year, even though I didn't want to.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know, hey, you gotta go the first day before you can quit.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_03: Had some coaches mad at me because it was like, hey, we already have a starting spot for you.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I had the size and weight, but you know, I wasn't functional with it.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: There was no speed or anything, and then did lose some weight later on in high school.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_03: And it was like, well, then at that point, I wish I would have kept in some sports because there I would have been functional and could have utilized some strength and size.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: Now, now I think I'm an athlete because I tell everyone, hey, I've gone and done an ultra or I'm running before work, and so now it becomes part of your persona of, you know, hey, I'm doing this, look at me.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: But you kind of want to share it and see can you get other people involved with it?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're you're definitely an athlete for sure.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: It depends on the day.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_02: Depends.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um so uh you said it was uh you say you just looked at a picture of yourself, did you step on the scale?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_03: What what was that what was that moment for you that that like I think scale scale had never been a thing and still even today with that weight loss, try not to utilize that, you know.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_03: Today I go off of, you know, how are my clothes fitting?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: Which that's the expensive part of weight loss because you're you're going size downs.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well then you need to start getting clothes that fit well.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: But for me, it was, you know, saw saw a picture of me holding the baby and it was like, man, I really look like that.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and and that was a moment, you know, turn to my wife and it's like, hey, you should have said something a long time ago.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like we gotta we gotta have those honest conversations with ourselves of hey, this something's gotta give here.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, this this isn't what you look like, you know, before we got married, and you know, you're not doing anything with yourself, you'd go to work all day and come home tired, you know.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's you can't raise a a child or a family with that kind of capacity.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I feel like though, your significant other, someone who sees you every single day, you kind of don't really notice that, just like yourself.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't really notice the gradual change over time.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, even look at the other way around.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I mean?
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it takes a picture.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you when you posted that picture the other day of your transformation, I don't even remember you looking like the first guy, you know.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you get used to it.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I mean, incredible, incredible stuff.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh, where was I at here?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I I want to talk about a little bit about uh run dad run.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I think it's important that everybody know, you know, obviously we're age the podcast, we're age groupers and we're putting it together.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_02: We're all run dad run.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: We're kind of a part of run dad run, but I feel like you're one of those guys that's kind of the heart and soul behind it.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: You really pushed for it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um for me, like when it kind of first got thrown around, it was just a funny thing.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think it was gonna be serious, but you kind of you kind of just forced everybody into it.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think you know, kind of started as there was four of us that had signed up for uh an ultra race and kind of how that race started, Laney and I had been training a little bit, and you know, that one was supposed to be uh a 50K initially for me.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_03: You know, this which one was that?
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_03: This was the Dino run in October.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so it wasn't Crazy Desert, you weren't planning on doing it.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we were planning to do 100k for Crazy Desert, but Dino was before, hey, let's do the 50K longest I've ever been.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then probably two weeks out-ish, when they were doing the sign-up, it was like, hey, we're giving buckles out for 100k.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: So the it's amazing how the buckle drinks so the group chat changed to hey, I think Tyler had figured out buckle that you got a participation medal, like for doing the 100k, and then you realize, wait a second, I get two pieces of hardware if I go that far.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, so now it was a new milestone.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I think prior to that, Landy and I had done a training run that was longest I'd ever did out there on that course, uh, 20 miles.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_03: And so going from that 20 mile jump, uh, everyone kept saying you hit a mental wall.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: And there is something weird about it.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's not it, it becomes not a physical thing at some point.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a mental.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: You're hurting to begin with, you know, early on.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_03: And uh we went from 20 miles to did over 62 miles, if you include, you know, going to the aid station and stuff.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: I think my my watch ended up saying like 66 or something like that.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I was paying for paying for it for a while.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: My that would have been Halloween of 25.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_03: My youngest, who's seven months old now, was born November 10th.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_03: So my very pregnant wife was playing nurse for me uh for for weeks on end before she had a baby.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: Were you over it when the baby came?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I I needed to be a trooper at that point because she she uh took one for the team for us.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: It it was rough after the fact.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: And now now the hook is how do you finish faster and not as physically, you know, uh hurt.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: And that's the easiest way to put it.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: There hurt was in the nicest way, dude.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: Emily was a gangster too.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like I remember being out there and like Tyler was cooked, dude.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like he didn't like he didn't want to talk to me.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I at what point was this?
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that was probably 12 hours in.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: We we had we we had some moments there because it's a different moment.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about the ending, but yeah, that was uh yeah, we had a couple of rough patches during that.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm talking about like towards the end is my legs are starting to cramp up so bad, and I'm like, man, like I've gotta.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: I told Tyler, I was like, hey, um, if I stop, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna finish.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just have to keep going.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: So he's like just just a hair behind me.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, every time I catch up at the finish line, I see Yasinya and and Emily, and uh I'm just looking at Emily and she's like pregnant, you know, she's about to pop, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I gotta keep going.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like I there's no way I could help, even if I wanted to.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: But we had a tent, he had his mule out there, like I I couldn't run at that point.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: The blisters on my feet, every step you took.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: So I think I walked the last 12 miles and I had texted her beforehand, like, hey, I think I got four hours left, and someone's gonna have to pick me up.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I can't drive home.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: And then it was like, well, you'll need to leave your truck and the buggy, and it's like, nope, I'm taking it home.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I drove home.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_03: Powered through.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it was rough.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think I was falling asleep by the time we got out of Anslow.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I've been there.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I've never been so physically exhausted as I was after mine, and I didn't like literally could have fallen asleep standing up.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: I've never felt that sensation before.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but so this was the run that kind of inspired Run Dead Run.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that one kind of after that, you know, we all had group pictures to begin with.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we have kind of uh a design and clothing business, and so you start messing with caricatures and and looking at stuff, and then it's like, oh, I think we could do something with this.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: And you look at, you know, who's all involved in it, and we all are, and we all kind of different walks of life, but at the end of the day, we're all dads, you know, we're all fathers to an extent.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's some of us have more kids than others, uh, but how how do you still, you know, try to perform and do these tasks, but still be, you know, a good father?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's trying to share that message and show, like, hey, you know, you can still physically be active, try to train for something more, you can still go to work, and you can still come home and participate with the family.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's kind of been the concept.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: And and each of us is a little different.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm probably the slower one.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: We've got some injured guys, but I want to think my paces are a little more relatable with the general population.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, we've got some fast guys, we've got some in between.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: You're pointing the wrong way for the fast guys.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it's but it's dude, it's just so I'm no longer fast, I'm 15 weeks past fast.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: And you're still on IR and you could probably beat me, but it's all right.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: We could we could try.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think you could I think you could take me.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: So the whole idea out there is just busy dads trying to be dads and work and all that, and still able to take care of themselves and and train and and achieve hard things.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think you see there's a trend in health and wellness right now.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a nationwide thing, and it's you know, it doesn't have to be running ultramarathons, it can be walking, it you know, just more community sort of activity.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, lifting, just do something.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: The way I see it, it's not even about dads.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean that's that's what resonates with us.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of what got us going.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um run dad run was the text group, I think Renee came up with that.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I I I remember the conversation we're going back and forth, and we're like, yeah, let's do the what should we call it?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, dude, why the the group text name is it it's everything, like it's the motivation, right?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I've seen I feel like we've inspired others with Run Dad Run, you know, people that aren't dads, you know, shout out to the moms for sure.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_02: Can't do without the moms, um, especially Emily putting up with a group effort.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, it's about the kids, it's about everybody who just wants to do something hard that thinks they couldn't do it, which but you know, age group is a baby, like yeah, that's exactly who we are.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Dads, age groupers, moms, just the average person.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's kind of how it all ties together.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Trying to do great things, yeah.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: Great things without getting injured.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we're chasing PRs, not going to the ERs.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of my stuff.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: Too late.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_03: Escaping ER, yeah.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um yeah, I uh what was it going with this?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um so what's the what's the goal in your your eyes like for for Run Dad Run?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: You're you know, what we'll just say it, you're the president of Run Dad Run Nation.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what's the goal?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: What's the overall goal?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: What are we what what what's what are we trying to do here?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm the I'm the money man, the handler of the books is what I see.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like a president to me.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, me too.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: I kind of you know, my hopes with it would be to you know make it more community-based, have have uh the opportunity to have other people on, you know, the age groupers podcast, to have the ability to you know help sponsor and aid in some of these local runs.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: Here in San Angelo, we've got the Road Lizards, you know, they do a lot, you know, they keep costs affordable for these races.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know, how can we step in and help?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know, how can we you know go sponsor kids' events?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: How can we, you know, just kind of put the name out there and just show, you know, this is more of a community.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a yeah, we are selling items and we have a true business, but with those funds, you know, we're looking to put back in the community.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: We're not looking for us to you know really benefit from any of the profits.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we want to, you know, sponsor some races, maybe put some on ourselves, you know, make it free, free registration or affordable.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I I don't know about scholarships or anything like that yet, but you know, you could strive for something like that if we could afford it.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, covering my entry to the Boston at some point would be you just gotta beat the time qualifications.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, you can do the chair, you can sign up to be like charity.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to be fast, you just have to raise enough money, like 10 grand or something.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's the way around.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I think so.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean you have to get in like the I'd have to look it up.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think you have to get in like the lottery system, and once you get pulled, you you would you pick a charity, and like if you raise enough funds for that charity, then you can be that that's cool, that that person that does it.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know that.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: But kind of while you're on the subject or while we're on the subject, for anybody who doesn't know, and I didn't realize how complicated these events can be until I started getting involved a few years ago, they are a lot of work to put on.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: And they absolutely require volunteers.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: They don't they don't need they don't um ask for volunteers, and it's not like they could could benefit from volunteers, they have to have volunteers.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: It is a necessity.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: If there aren't volunteers and if there aren't sponsors, they don't happen.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you don't have that person manning that aid station for however long, the the the race is done.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can't you can't have it, right?
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's a safety issue.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I bring it up to say like if there's people listening that are interested in getting into an event or something for the first time and you're seeing that price tag, like you know, yeah, there are some events that probably could be cheaper and they're a little inflated on the price, but I would argue that most events that are put on are probably at the bare minimum they can afford to put them on, and that the oh yeah, the the dollars are absolutely justified.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's worth saying too.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: You mentioned the roadlifters are like absolutely shout out to them.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: You go look at other events, like their their cost is like a quarter like smaller than what some of these other events do.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: And always so well run.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, dude, yes, they're amazing.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, uh the volunteer community here is awesome.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I've every time I've done an event for them, there's always been an aid station man.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: They're cheering you on, they're giving you stuff, they're trying to help you out.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, ready to dial 911 if if you need it, right, Tyler?
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you're 12 12 hours deep into your first overnight ultra, you know, the morale there at that aid station, that that gives you kind of brings you back to life.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: And and without those volunteers wanting to do that, you know, I I don't know mentally that you can really stick in it as good.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: What do you I mean, so touching on Zach's, you know, I do I think like volunteering is a great way to kind of experience what's going on going on and seeing how a race runs, but for for you uh specifically, what what's your what's your advice to somebody who's uh maybe scared to start or wanting to kind of jump into not a doesn't have to be an ultra or even a run, just doing hard things in general?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: I I think first for me, you know, initially when signed up for some of these races, you know, that started at like a 5k and stuff, you know, I'm back there huffing and puffing, struggling.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: And you see the people lapping you and they're just so happy.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: So initially it was frustrating, but then you become to realize, hey, this community is here to support you.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: Fast, slow, walking, just being a volunteer, you know, something about the community around it.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: Where we see it on social media where, hey, there's this random guy running on the videos.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, everyone's there to cheer and support.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: So I think that helps, you know, and you can just show up and you know be a part of it.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: The energy and your adrenaline gets going, you know, it's just something about it.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: And and a lot of people don't understand it till they, you know, partake in it.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're so much fun.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: They are fun.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm ready to get back out there.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's been too long.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: Same.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so we've we've touched on it a little bit.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's talk about this first big race.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I know you've already kind of gone into it, but but jump into that for me.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so you got started running, you got hooked.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: You mean me and you were talking a lot.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, it's funny because I I uh you you called me your Zach.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like Zach was the one who kind of like basically forced me and drugged me into it, and then you kind of reached out to me and I'm like, hey, I just I basically gave him the same advice you gave me, just better, because you know, you made mistakes, I made mistakes, and so I was like, hey, you've got two two guys who made a ton of mistakes.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: Here's some some more perspective.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: But for whatever reason, you decided to also make some mistakes, you know.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was no plan.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: It was watching Lanny knew him from ASU, and it's like, well, this guy's you know changed.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: He's he's got the family involved in it.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: For some reason he enjoys us.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: Let's try it.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was lifting weights and things, and it's like, well, just go and then start funneling questions to you, and it just kind of went from there.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what was your your was your first uh like event, official race event?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Was it running the sun?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was run in the sun.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: What distance did you do?
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: That was uh 8k, I believe.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: See, this is why I like Tyler, like he's an animal, dude.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like most people you have a mile.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's a mile, a 5k, and an 8K.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: Straight to 8k.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: 8k.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like, hey Lanny, which one are you doing?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: That okay.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'll do that.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he looks weak and average.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: I could do that.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: He can do that, I can do it.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: And we just kind of went from there, you know, was trying to do my own thing, did have a little bit of an injury setback, you know, no, no plan, no, you know, real strength working out.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: You go zero to you know miles every day, you know, that's not good for the body.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: So learned, you know, there's a little prep work that needs to be done.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: For the record, he keeps saying no plan.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: I tried to tell him you have to have a plan, you can't just you know do it.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: But despite all odds, he just continues to disprove that theory.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, there's there's there's plans involved with the training regimen today.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's helped a lot.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: So so you do the eight the 8k, the next jump from there.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: What what was the what was the race, the next one?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I know you did the long course Shan and Trell series at some point.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: So did those did those long courses, so what's that 10, 12, and 15k?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Rolled in a crazy desert, did half marathon there.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I that race for sure was one where it's like there's no way I Could accomplish anything after this.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm cramping up straight legged at like mile nine.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: I got an old lady walking past me.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: She's loving life.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm dying.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know how I'm gonna get to the car, get it finished.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Probably took a little break and then start asking Laney again about you know what's next.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: And then it was we get into the crazy dyno, and you know, our initial thought was that 50k to lead up to 100k the next year until found out hey, we're giving belt buckles, and so all bets were off.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: It was like, hey, we gotta get it.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: We got 24 hours, we can walk it, is what we thought.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: So the the the the long course that was that's sounds like that's the first time you started to kind of get into more of what what would classify as distance.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like the last one's what nine and a half miles.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and trail stuff because the trail pretty much like stopped running, winter time hit, and it was like, oh, and he's like, Oh, it's easy.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, first run is the hardest course, but yes, it is a big incline, and it's like, hey, I didn't know.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: I think I told him about that part.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he didn't because it's got him locked him in.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and then yeah.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: I always debate telling or not telling people about that hill.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you don't tell them, they round the corner and they're like, Am I about to have to endure three to five miles of this?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little, yeah, you're like, wait a second.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're like on all fours trying to climb that thing.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: And and my my time every time I've looked at it is okay, there's a line of people in front of me.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: If I fall, I'm taking out about ten people.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: If one of these people fall, you know, they're taking me out and everyone behind me.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it's an adventure.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a gnarly hill.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: So after the like the the long course, that's three trail runs within what like a six-week period.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Increasing in distance up to nine and a half miles.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you you you said you struggled with that last one and then struggled with the half marathon.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: So looking back, like what did you learn from those, or what would you have done different?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, defin for sure, uh crazy dyno.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: I I've got you know a big story on what I would do different there, but you know, overall mileage, uh, where I live out in the country, you know, I wasn't running on the county roads to kind of acclimate to some of the incline.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was in town on our street roads and you know, was just trying to go hit three miles.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: There was no you know, pacing involved, you know, there wasn't any easy runs, nothing like that.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: And there really wasn't any, you know, leg workouts, you know, to uh compensate for those incline.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you you gotta get those quads built up.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there there is a weightlifting con uh piece to all this that really is beneficial.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: Huge.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely it's not just going and running and trying to be as fast as you can.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: They're they're the weightlifting is very important.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's definitely why I'm suffering through this injury or coming off this injury is because I was doing relatively no weightlifting.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like jumping into the PT, like I'm like, what the heck?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you think I would be relatively strong running so many miles, but like you realize you're and you're not, and that's yeah, kind of kind of dangerous.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: We we've learned that together.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: If you if all you did was run or bike or whatever, and you start to get into some of the the weight stuff, you get humbled pretty quick.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think there's a safe way to do it.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: I definitely wasn't taking the safe approach.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, like it definitely it's the strength training's huge.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: What about what about fueling?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: How do you think about fueling?
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, I love it at all strategy at first.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Was that even something on your mind?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: No, not at all.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: And then you know, you go to the dyno run, and it was like I got plastic tubs of just freaking candy.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, no, not only does it have candy, this guy has nerds clustered like every bulk package.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, mix, sampler pack from the feed, whatever it was.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely like a thousand dollars worth of supplement type stuff in one one one can.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I love about Tyler is like if he's going, he's going full throttle, baby.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like bulk ass, no breaks.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Until you're fully dialed in on what you like and what works and what won't work for you and all that.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a huge proponent of bringing anything you can think of because you don't know 10 hours in what you're gonna be able to tote down.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Everything that's corrupted.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: It was like we rated the kids.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hour two, the uncrustable is good, but is it gonna be good at hour 10 or am I gonna be gagging?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was kind of the good thing about our 20 mile test.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: Is we when we went out there, Tyler had everything.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, dude, this is like probably the smartest thing you could have done.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: It was like, I I would just literally eat like as much of this stuff as you can just to see how your body handles it, you know.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like not only that, but we were testing hitting that, we were testing that 20-mile wall too that you talked about.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I think that was important for for him to see, like, you know, like all right, dude, if we're jumping into this 100k, like you you have to do 20 miles and see what it's gonna do to your body because it's just it's no joke.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to do that for the first time that day.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, and you're especially not when you have 40 something after that.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: You're training your stomach as some of them watch a ton of videos and see these guys that are you know just booking it on these 100k's or 100 mile races, and you know, they talk about just they have a day of the week and they're doing gut training and they're drinking you know high carb mixes, they're they're seeing what can they hold down and they just go run fast till they get it kind of trained out and definitely nothing proper like that, but it it does make sense.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'd say that's a I don't know if I uh will be partaking in that method, but but eating is definitely important.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's kind of a saying in triathlon, like that there's four disciplines.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's swim, bike, run, there's also eating.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that carries over to any.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably one of the most important like that's what I struggle with the most is eating, like figuring out what to eat.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: Well that that on that 100k, that was a big thing for me.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: It got cold that night, and so you you slowed up on your hydration because you weren't you weren't sweating, you didn't really need to eat a whole lot because you weren't super hungry, you know, after you're you're really you're fueling to finish that race and then also recover at some point.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: And and so that is something I've definitely learned is I'm I may get hungry in the race, but at the end when I'm done, it's like I don't want nothing, but I've got to force myself because I know all right, it's time to start recovering now.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: I struggled with being able to eat after a long event.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just not hungry.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not me.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: You said I can clobber the best food I've ever had.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Wendy's chicken nuggets.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh bro, Wendy's chicken nuggets.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: I always want sushi.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: You can put down 40 or 50 of those things.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Sushi is always the great idea and thought till I get towards the end and it goes away and it's like, oh, I don't want anything.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I could choke down sushi in the middle of it.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: I don't really like sushi to begin with.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is post-race.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I would want to do it during uh during during your your go-to is that ramen.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Oh something about ramen when you're about eight-ish hours in and it's cold out.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, right.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_03: Burnt grilled cheese, quesadillas, anything.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: So um man, it's coming back to me like it was yesterday and we did that run.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: But for you, um I know I know trying to figure out what to eat was still kind of hard, but what for what for you was the hardest hardest point while we were out there?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Probably, and and I don't remember really a mileage or hour time, you know.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: I I wanted to sit down.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we had we had our discussions and a little argument, and you know, Lanny was with me every step of the way, probably for those last 12 miles, just because I physically couldn't do it.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: And he said, Don't stop.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, don't stop.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: There there was some there was a couple ladies that they would, it was a 5k, there was two 5k loops.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_03: You finish one, go start the other.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so we kind of had a rotation where we we were doing run two, walk, run two miles, walk one, because you were landing at an aid station.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: Great setup, easy error course, especially for the first one.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_03: Looking forward to it this year again.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_03: And they would pass us, you know, a lady would go run a 5k and then she'd go sit down.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: And it was like, well, I want to go sit down.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_03: But he knew he was like, You can't do it, you can't do it.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: So 19 and a half hours later is what it took me.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we'd yeah, we sat down and maybe changed socks once, but there wasn't we had those a little, there was a little yeah, I got yelled at a couple tears for I got yelled at and things like that.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think I got yelled at.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: I was more motivating.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like I think I got yelled at.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: I physically threatened him.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the strategy going in was like, dude, let's just keep moving.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like we can we can walk as much as you want to, which was kind of a lie because I was like, no, come on, we got it, let's go.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's good advice.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: Just don't stop, dude.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: That was it.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: And we just we didn't stop our resting, was walking, you know.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um that was the one fit that he threw, but we got over that, you know.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Threatened to I think you might have threatened to hit me.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Can't remember.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_03: I I told him to get walking or I was gonna physically hurt him.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: But we don't have the strength to physically hurt him at all.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I think at that moment I thought I could.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: I I really don't know because post-race we were trying to get the canopy, and I didn't even have I couldn't even pull the stake out of the ground.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was that bad.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: I think I was shaking trying to pull it.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you mentioned strategy.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like there was a decent amount of strategy that went into this.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of thought when we did this thing.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: You had the the the run-walk strategy, you knew the two loops.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds like you carried a lot of food.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um we ended up we ran that training, and then that's where we figured out.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's where we did our 20-mile practice was on that day of, and I carried my vest on that training run and had a lot of stuff, but we knew there was a parking lot, you know, back at each loop, but we took more stuff that first time, and I saw the picture the other day.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: I I wore a little belt.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't end up wearing my vest the day of because it's like, hey, we're a mile and a half at all times away from an aid station.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't need to carry anything.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: That makes sense, yeah.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: And and and I think that helped a lot.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: I bet that did help.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: I had my handheld on the whole time, I didn't even put my vest on.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: That was what's crazy.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: I had just a little belt and I think maybe a little water bottle or something.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_02: The best thing was is like Tyler had all these flashlights, like 45 different flashlights, and I was making fun of him when we were doing 20 mileer.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when we were doing when we were doing the 24 hour, the actual event, my both my headlamps that I brought like were just dead.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: So I had no light.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so at least you remembered on this time.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Tyler's oh yeah, you know, you yeah, exactly.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: I got yelled at by Zach one time because I forgot a headlamp and it was like 4 a.m.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_03: at State Park.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_03: You also need a disclaimer with this guy.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: I I haven't ran miles with him after dark, especially in the trails, but something about bugs and touching him, he's gonna like knock you over almost.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: I do need to get the bugs.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: You need to stay on your side over there, or the dude's gonna stinking trip here.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's freaky stuff jumping out at you.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you just keep moving and nothing will mess with it.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think we talked about it last time, and like I am terrified.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: If I'm by myself, I'm terrified.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, nope, can't pay me enough.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: I need one of you strong men to be with me.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Tyler's an Tyler's a man.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think we saw.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Did we see a porcupine or something out there?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: We saw some guys like, hey, we're good.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: I just got throws on my tracks.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: And Tyler's like, keep going.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'd like to jump on his back to get me past it, and we were good.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: Stop it.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: We just gotta keep moving.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just keep moving.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: Did you ever actually want to quit during that?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have moments of like like everyone says, like, oh man, it was so hard.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure, till a comment was made and and kind of hit home.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: And it ties back to the run dad run.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, my run in my run-in partner had said, you know, hey, if you quit now, uh, my oldest son, his name's Stetson, is like, what are you gonna tell Stetson?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you told him, hey, I'm gonna go do this.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: You quit now, you're you're kind of failing them.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: And and in the moment, it was like, okay, you know, thanks for the comment and just brush it off.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: But you do, you're sleep deprived, you know, you're behind on nutrition, you start thinking about things, and it's like, no, it's true.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: I told everyone I'm doing this, I can't let them down.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: I've got to push through.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: And and so for me, you know, that's part of the concept.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: You you sign up and say, I'm gonna do it.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: You told people about it months beforehand, that's all you talked about.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: If you can physically finish it, you better.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: It don't matter how long it takes.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's super relatable.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because I had that thought during a Half Iron Man.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, man, if I have to tap out of this for some reason, like if uh if I get a mechanical on the bike or whatever, because I had people that like travel to come watch too.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, man, that's kind of awkward.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: You travel all this way and you see me walking on the side halfway through.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I and you know, I I said that to you because I, you know, I remember I've I've watched Stetson see you cross the finish line.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like one of the coolest things I think was watching him watch you uh during that 8K in the run of the sun.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm just like, dude, Stetson's coming tomorrow morning, and like what are you gonna be?
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna be sitting over here under this little tent, or you know, like what's what you yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I couldn't think of the thought of you letting him down.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that uh letting me down mostly.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, at that point, you know, emotions.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think like two miles beforehand, I told Emily, I was like, I was just crying out there.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I was thinking about.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: I think it it got brought up, and it's like, hey, I'm gonna do this, I'm not gonna let anyone down.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: I just started crying.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_03: It was like no no reason, just started happening, and then yeah, you get up to that finish line, and it's like, oh man, he is there cheering me on.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: Now I did have to like, you know, hey, don't don't squeeze too tight or knock me over almost.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, yeah, there was a ton of excitement.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: Would you say what what outweighed each other on that?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Was it more like was it the physical struggle, the mental struggle?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: What was what was harder?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: It probably became more physic more mental than it did physical because I knew I knew at that point I can keep walking.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: Was it comfortable?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: No, but I could keep moving.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: I I was eating.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: It was just, you know, mentally wanting to keep doing that.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: That became tougher.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: How many blisters did you end up with?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, my feet were covered in it.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: I chafed in spots I didn't know you could.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh got home, took a shower, and it's like, okay, something's burning um kind of in the undercarriage area, and it's like, is that is that bleeding down there?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I had to she had to check a few things, and it was like, golly, I didn't know I needed to do that.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: So there was mental notes and hopefully some future prep on, you know, either taping feet or you know, taping toes to avoid that because I don't want that happening again.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think of the biggest mistake you made was probably not taping feet before I think I think anything and everything else could have been you know managed and at that point it was probably because I took the jump from 20 miles being the longest to 60 something, but I think for me physically it was probably feet prep, you know, those blisters that came on, you know, I guess change socks, shoes, whatever it might have been, taped stuff beforehand.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: I could have felt like that that's possibly some some of my fault.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've never thought this will happen to me in the next race, but I've never had issues with blisters.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't ever I always forget to mention it because I never I remember Tyler being so worried about that.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, dude, I don't I think you're good.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: Just like throw some Vaseline in there.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: And then yeah, that was the point kind of where we got into the argument.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was poking at him a little bit, trying to lighten the the mood, but this dude's like toes were bleeding, and I think we were like we weren't even halfway through at this point, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I please don't let that happen to me.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: But also, like, I don't he doesn't need to know that this is really bad right now.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and yeah, it was rough.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: That was good.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you still have those shoes?
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: Did you use the shoes again after this?
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Or did they or were they retired?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I've still I still have them.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm cutting grass in them right now, and every once in a while I think I could replace the insoles, and that's been the hardest thing too, is you know, finding a good pair of shoes, you know, something that's got for me, I need a big wide toe box.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: I've kind of got a flat foot, so kind of sensitive to some of the heel drop that some of these have.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: So searching for stuff, well, you can try it on at the store, but that's not the same effect as actually physically going out and running.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I find stuff that I can walk in.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_03: Got some ultras that I love.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_03: I can only walk in them.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: I can't run in them.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: They will start killing my feet.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's been a tough battle for me.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, one thing I like, and what I love about your story, and I I'll even, you know, I'll be honest, like when you when you were like you did the the half marathon was your longest event distance, despite it being like the fourth event you've actually done.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we've got the 20-mile runner belt.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: That that that hopefully gave you some confidence, gave me confidence in you.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I remember I might have been talking about it with Zach.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, like I don't know, I don't know if he's gonna be able to I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do 100k.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I've done like three or four fifties to this point.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm like, I I'm like worried like for him, like, because that's a lot, it's it's a lot to chew.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and it's you know, nothing against you.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's literally like that's a crazy jump.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like a first official event from half marathon, one twenty-mile run to 62 miles, like give or take.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: He actually might have been better positioned because he didn't know any better.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, honestly.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: You do a 50k and you're like, I gotta do that twice.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and we definitely had no idea what we were doing, like, you know, and then all of a sudden, like it was like, dang, like, we're we're gonna do this thing.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, then you fast forward to finishing it.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, okay, are we flirting with a little case of rhabdo?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, how do we replenish?
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, how many bags of IVs can I get to kind of refuel me?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: Do I need to go to the hospital, go home, take a shower?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: Thought cold show is what I needed.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, sent myself into shock.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: I got the you know, sweats, fever.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: Pregnant wife, really pregnant wife, trying to play nurse for me.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: She's freaking out.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: We got a friend in town that has a health clinic, and we're texting him, like, hey, you know, can you help me out?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, what do you think?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, some Mason with Live Oak, you know, we're we're leaning on him for guidance here.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's like, you know, come see us.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, Ah man, if you couldn't walk, you probably had rhabdo, and I was taking you to the hospital.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: And so I ain't going to the hospital.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was rough.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: What's rhabdo?
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what rhabdo is.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: You're spitting out things like that.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: Rhabdomycin, it's pretty much, I guess, like where your kidneys kind of start, you've got so much muscle fatigue, it's your body shuts down.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: That thing that was in the news locally.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: Probably shouldn't talk about it too much, but yeah, yeah, it's that same thing.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: It can be very bad.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_03: Ouch.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's scary.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_03: Very common in these endurance.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think you were just being kind of a wuss, honestly.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, part of me felt like that.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_03: It was like, okay, then you know, suck it up, get over it.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I it was it took me a it took me a while to come back off of that.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: I I had a cramp stuck in my calf for like four days.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: It took me to get out.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: I I thought it was an injury, but I'm like, no, it was just a cramp.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: Finally, once it released, I was good.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: But that was crazy.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, how soon after were you scrolling, run, sign up, looking for the next one?
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't know how many times I heard him say, yeah, once was enough.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm doing.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: And here he is, like already like chasing more.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_03: It took a little bit because I think I was initially still signed up for Crazy Desert that happened back in March for the 100K.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd like to say it was a blessing in disguise, you know.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_03: The first race, you know, after that, Dino Run stopped running, had the baby, you know, fell behind on training and uh did the trail series again.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Crazy Desert, the rain delayed it.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: We were out there, we were mentally ready, physically definitely was not good.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_03: So uh backed off, and I think I did half my marathon there, but now I'm in the mindset where I need to go do the dyno again and you know, let's beat last year's time and you know physically recover it.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: I probably won't get to do much of a distance, but I'm gonna be there all night.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um jump let's jump into this um and kind of close up.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: But um you know, uh to me, you are the perfect example of uh normal people being able to do hard things.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, like a hundred K ultra marathon is insane.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like some people never even think about it, most people dream about it, and you full on did one, you know, jump right into it.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I mean what what would you say?
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like what's what's the what what do people misunderstand about ultras and and uh these long endurance runs or endurance sports, endurance events?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: I think first thing is you know, people are scared to commit, you know, commitment and and really the biggest things are time commitment.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm not giving up anything at home.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm starting before everyone's awake.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that that alarm goes off at 4 30 in the morning.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: I may or may not get out of bed right then, but I'm up before the rest of the house.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm still going to work the rest of the day.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm coming home, I'm playing dad.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we have a home business, and so I have to play dad so she can be out there in her shop.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm not taking away from my family.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: I and I think if anything, it's aiding my abilities to be there with them.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: Now, is 100k for everyone?
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: No, definitely not.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_03: But there there's something about the trail aspect versus road running.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_03: You're out there in nature, you get to see some pretty cool places and you're doing it on your two feet.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_03: You know, uh you see a lot of things that you would have never seen if you were driving a vehicle.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Same.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: What about uh what um so thinking about the old version of you, that uh the picture, like you said, that you saw uh that kind of boom slapped you in the in the face.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: That guy probably thought there's no way in hell that he could run 100k.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, definitely not.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: So what what would you what would you say to that old version of you?
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: Or maybe somebody that's thinking the same thing right now?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: All it takes is just start.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's all it takes.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: It can happen, you just gotta start.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: Just gotta start.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's a common theme.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what everyone says.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: Love it.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: Just start today, tomorrow, right now.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's no there's no good time either.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: Was it one day versus day one?
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know, yes.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: This is this is day one.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: Just pick it and go.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Tyler, good story.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much for coming on.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, guys.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, last question.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: What's next?
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: What's the next events?
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh is it dyno run?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: 100k?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: Are you committing right now?
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 100k dyno run.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think I think it opens for registration in two days.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I I'm waiting on that.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: What's the time to beat 19?
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: 19 and a half.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: My goal is probably I'd like to do 16 if I could.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: I I feel like could maintain a little better.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: 16 hours, dyno run.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: So if we haven't been left off the face of the planet this coming November, we're gonna be talking about your uh conducting block day.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.