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LIVE Spring 2026 Replay (Best Permanent Fencing, Polyface Incubation, and MORE) · Beyond Labels Premium

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's go start with Ethan's question for Joel.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so last time I asked a question about perimeter fence, or actually I asked a question about uh how I could, you know, start farming on my property, and you mentioned doing a perimeter fence and doing some waterline.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_04: What's the cheapest way I can do a perimeter fence that's like actually a good quality?
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_04: Because I know that Greg Judy is a big fan of the high tensile, and I think you're a bigger fan of the woven wire, but like the woven wire is very expensive as far as I was pricing it, but maybe I was looking at something else.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're you're right.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's the woven wire is the woven wire is the um the most expensive, it's also the most trustworthy.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that's that's the one that nothing will go through.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: The high the high tinsel that Greg Judy uses.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: So so here's here's let me answer it this way.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's all about risk.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's all about risk.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: So if you if you're on a major highway and if your animals get out, they're gonna be running down a two-lane highway, you have a high risk.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: If your property is nestled up into some woods and some farmland around it, that's very, very low risk.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the the risk, the risk is not from your animals getting out.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: The risk is from your animals being hit by a car and killing somebody.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: So um if your risk is low, then you can absolutely get by with.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we we've on around here on very rural areas, we've actually just put up a single strand of electric fence.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we use Intelarope from uh Premier.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a quarter inch, very, very visible black and white uh um polyethylene with um you know filaments in it called Intelarope.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: And we've used that, and we've I mean it just it's just fantastic.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's strong, nothing will tear it down.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh deer don't go through it.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's very visible, it's wonderful.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um on a low-risk situation, high-risk situation.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we go with the woven wire because that's the one that's impregnable.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing can go through it, not sheep, not goats, not cows.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, nothing can go through it, and that's that's your impregnable.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um so Greg, Greg Judy, you've got to realize Greg Judy is in very, very rural Missouri.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's nobody, I mean, I've been there, I love the guy.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've been to his place.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he drives, I mean, he doesn't even have a trailer.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_02: He he drives his animals down the public road from farm to farm.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: And we couldn't begin to do that here.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: We've got two-lane highways, we got, it's just uh, you can't do that here.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: So uh a lot of it's about risk, and he's in a very, very low risk area.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I hope that helps answer the question.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I've got uh I've got a pretty big creek on one side, well, really two sides.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um you have to cross a culvert to get into my driveway, and then my other sides, my uncle's it's basically just grass, and then the back side is woods and then a farm field.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_04: So so I don't have a ton of risk really.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it sounds sounds like you're in a you're in a pretty low risk situation.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so you could use, you know, uh two are you doing cows?
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, I think because the last time I was asking about you're talking about uh cattle leasing, I guess would be the term or whatever.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so you know, two two two strands of electric fence uh will will do you just fine.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: And that'll be very, very cheap.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: You can put that up pretty quick and um and you'll be in good shape.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: All right, thanks.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that sounds great.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Neely says, I often see use fencing on Facebook Marketplace.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: You can get lucky and find at least some of the things that you need there.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, fantastic.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: So let's um, Joel, we have a lot of questions that were sent in as well.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so I'm gonna try to go quickly.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go to a question that was sent in and then we'll get right back to you, Derek.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, quite this question was from Tiff.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: I was wondering if Joel has a type of incubator he would recommend.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: We only hatch 50 a year right now, but we are wanting to expand to 100 egg layers hatched a year.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know actually what brand we're using right now.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: We started, we started with a brand called um Ova.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh boy, I can't remember the second word of it.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Ova something.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um and we used that for several years, and they have different sizes.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um but I don't I don't know what the guy that's hatching for us right now is using.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: As far as I know, he's using our the ones that we purchased, but I don't know.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: But it's over over something.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: I can't can't remember the name of it, but it's over over something.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: OV OVA and then something.
• 5:18
  unknown: Okay.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um and Lydia says, I like my Baroto.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Incubator from Premiere.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, so there's another suggestion.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's go to Derek.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Derek.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_03: Hello.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I got a question.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_03: I got a question about the uh with the with a poultry operation of your size.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_03: Do you worry about is there any protocol that you you use with like mite infestation or anything like that?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have a problem with that at all?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: Chicken sickness?
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I mean, mites are primarily a sanitation issue where you're not getting them on uh new fresh ground routinely or uh not giving them enough bedding in the winter.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: One of the the most common remedies for things like for mites is um is a dust bath of one-third dirt, one-third sand, and one-third wood ashes.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: I had a mind blank there for a minute.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: One third wood ashes.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: So ashes, dirt, sand, one-third each in a box that the chickens can fluff in, and the wood ashes uh act as a as a um deterrent or it it you know it it hurts the mites.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Derek, did that answer the question?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: I was yeah, just with the with the with all those chickens, I just wondered if somebody was checking them regularly, you know.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, we're oh yeah, we're we're checking them all the time.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but but it it might mites mites are also uh can come in.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there are numerous things that can encourage them.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: One of the I'll just get on a bit of a soapbox for a minute.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: One of the biggest uh weaknesses in in small flock outfits is uh geriatric chickens.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: Is geriatric chickens when when chickens get when when chickens get old, uh when they get old, they get more susceptible to these kind of things.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so um so when your chicken is is over four years old, put it in the stew pot.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: Don't name them and don't turn them into pets.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need nursing home chickens.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um when they get over four years old, put them in the stew pot.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe that's my issue.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: I name them all.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: So uh to follow up on the the incubator, here's a recommendation for hatching time.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: So that's another option.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, a question over here from the chat page.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um Does Joel hatch out Cornish Cross?
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know he makes customers take one to two roosters a year because he hatches his own birds, take one for the team, but are the birds potluck or he controls for the larger, plumper birds?
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, i.e., does he start with Cornish Cross eggs at the get-go?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we don't hatch any Cornish cross.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: All we're hatching are our egg layers.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so the layers are, you know, we started with the old traditional American varieties like uh Rhode Island Reds, New Hampshire Reds, uh Barred Rocks, uh Black Australarps, silver laced wine dots, you know, those kind of birds.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's it started out kind of as a hodgepodge, but as it's gone over the last 15 years, it's all they've almost turned 100% uh barred rock uh look.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's partly because the barred rock has it is kind of camouflaged and is harder for predators to to grab.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then at what age do you recommend breeding heifers?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, that's a little bit involved.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: So there's two schools of thought.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: One is um breed early and and call everything that doesn't breed early.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: The that that school of thought is that the number one benchmark for tender palatable beef is early pubescence.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um the if you want a good eating experience, the early fertility animal is much better than the later fertility animal.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: So exposing them to the bull um you know, in at 14, 15 months will absolutely determine who who has early pubescence and who doesn't.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Now, the the downside of that is that generally if you breed to calve as a two-year-old, you've just knocked about four years off the rear end of the cow's life, uh, because you've put her through a little more pressure there early on before she's actually mature.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so you're actually sacrificing uh about three to four years of productive capacity at the end of her life.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: So which one do you pick?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh on our farm, we've picked the early pubescence because we're in the direct marketing business, we're selling ribeye steaks, and we need to have good eating experiences.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: So we're willing to sacrifice the back end to ensure that we get um early pubescence on the front end, which is the number one litmus test for tender eating.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, fantastic.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: So then the next one is okay, we are in the works of getting a commercial kitchen so we can circumvent the USDA rules and use our own sausage seasoning, cure methods, etc.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: We do not want to go with what USDA prepacked seasoning and the processor is available.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: We know we can do better.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: When it comes to smoking meats like bacon or ham, nitrates seem to have a big push because of fear of botulism.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: So this leads to so many questions and my mind swirls.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is that even as big of a concern as it really should be, or will a simple salt, wet, equilibrium brine work just fine?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh boy, you're getting a little bit past my pay grade here.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh I know that on our uh sausages and things, we don't use um we don't use commercial nitrates or anything.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: We use the um what is it?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um celery or something.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's something else.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and that seems to work okay.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: I can tell you that if you want to if you want to concoct your own sausage blends, um that's gonna be that's gonna be pretty arduous.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh go for it if you want to, but that is very, very difficult even with a commercial kitchen.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we couldn't do it even in a with a commercial kitchen, so that's why we use blends with no MSG.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: And we only found four commercially available blends with no MSG.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: Those are the four that we use.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and so you know, generally about the only place that you can get a buy with your own sausage blends is if you are actually making your sausage in like a restaurant where you're actually using it right there.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of too, a lot of it too depends on on the inspector.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: You have a if you have a really uh positive inspector, then you might be able to get by a little bit more than somebody that's got a a bit of a obnoxious inspector.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: But if you put the money in a commercial kitchen, I would go ahead and pursue, you know, pursue everything else that you can.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, great.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the next question is does Cena have success in treating MS?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yes.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh in fact, that was one of the first conditions that I helped somebody heal from.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's the same backbone.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: So reversing all of these conditions, the chronic and autoimmune conditions, they all follow that same backbone.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think we finally did do a podcast on that.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I can go back and check, but it's the same, it's the same roadmap for for all of them.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yes, it is reversible, just like every other chronic and autoimmune disease.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: And there have been documented cases outside of my own um clients where MS has been reversed.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, then okay, Joel, do you have a favorite Bible verse or chapter or book uh to go to when you're starting a discussion about biblical ecology?
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: If so, what is it?
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's a great question.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, uh the earth the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, it's all owned.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's in the Psalms.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what uh off the top of my head, I can't give you the verse, but it's it's in the Psalms.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, to establish ownership.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Who owns this?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh God or me?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as you get somebody to agree that God owns it, then you can start having a whole different discussion about our responsibilities, stewardship, return on investment, all the normal, you know, all the normal things that can come when you establish property ownership.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I see it up there, Psalm 24.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: I can I can pull it here and tell you here in a second.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Here we are here.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Psalm 24, 1.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and they that dwell therein.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: So we, the world, the earth, everything that's in it, it's owned not by us, not by the World Economic Forum, not by Anthony Fauci, um, but by God.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so that creates a whole set of cascading, you know, responsibilities, um, opportunities, obligations, and um and and and and service, you know, service requirements.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: And Doug saying, I believe you put that in the pigness of the pig.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know I did, because that's the that's that's the that's the starting point for every stewardship conversation in that I use, at least uh in the in the faith community.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, now Dan sent in a question.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is hematite used to seal the walls of the pond?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to make a tiny pond in a four foot by eight foot raised garden bed.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Water is a problem/slash solution to many aspects of a garden.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm planning to have five raspberry plants and maybe tomatoes in the other half.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is a tiny pond a realistic option?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, where's the water gonna come from?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well, this was a question that was emailed in.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe you can suggest where the water would come from.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, when you start getting something that small, uh, you're almost down to to being better to just have a cistern off the roof of the house.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know, I don't know where you're located either.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: It makes a big difference if you're in a a 30-inch rainfall area or a 10-inch rainfall area.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um but uh a pond.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: If you're dealing with something that small, yeah, you can make a pond, but you'd probably want to line it.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: You want an impermeable um impermeable pond with a pond liner.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to dig something, I don't know, you know, four feet deep and six feet in diameter that catches your roof runoff from your from rainwater.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um it sounds like we're talking about a micro system here that's probably too small for a for a surface runoff situation uh to be realistic.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: We're probably talking about catching roof, roof water, and an open pond is gonna um evapotranspirate a lot.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: So, with that small a place, the I ideal would be some sort of a cistern, like you know, I IBC totes or something.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you could have you know five or six of those hooked together, uh that would give you you know a thousand gallon storage there with some IBC totes or something.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, great.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the next one is from Michelle.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Cena, we think my eight-year-old has SIBO based on floating stools for the last eight months since had pinworm treatment.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: I've just gotten grain, bean, legume, sugar, raw vegetable, and fruit free.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: My naturopath wants to do a breath test, which I'll do.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: But is there anything else I can do to help him?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: He has no symptoms other than um the floaters until I gave him a bifido probiotic last week.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: And he's been very sick to his gut ever since.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm trying to do um what I can to make this better.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, Michelle, I'm sorry.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's always really, really hard, but you know, to have sickness in the family, especially when it's your children.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, as a mom myself, you just want to take it all away from them.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'd rather me be sick than my kids.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sorry you're going through that.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, SIBO is definitely correctable.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh one of the easier things I have found to reverse.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, pinworm treatments can be very harsh on the microbiome and the bile system.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's possible that if the stool's been floating for about eight months, he might be struggling to produce or or release enough bile uh to break down the fats.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um so there is a SIBO link there because when bile flow is sluggish, it can't perform as well as detergent type of role in the small intestine, which normally keeps helps keep the bacterial population in check, and that can create the environment where SIBO can thrive.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, SIBO is really just small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, it's just an imbalance, you know, what we call a dysbiosis.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that he got really sick after the bifidoprobiotic is a a big clue, a diagnostic clue.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, bifido is usually a hero in the gastrointestinal tract.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: But if the environment is already having dysbiosis, like in a SIBO situation, the bacteria um in the small intestine can go into the small intestine where it doesn't belong and it can kind of fuel the fire.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um competing, they compete with spaces of beneficial bacteria.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, I hate to label it that way, but it creates an imbalance that can lead to the bloating and the pain, um, sometimes die-off or overgrowth reactions.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually had SIBO when I was um really sick, and it took me a long time to heal it because I didn't quite understand SIBO at the time.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there are certain things you can do on the physical level.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I found that ginger was quite helpful, but each person is individualized.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: So ginger and turmeric were very helpful for me.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, sometimes a soil-based probiotic can be helpful.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: So when I had SIBO and my kids actually fell into the same category, and I have found that when I'm working with individuals or friends and family, and they are experiencing difficulty with either fermented foods and also most over-the-counter probiotics, like I did.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they usually need to start with something like a soil-based probiotic, you know, go more primitive.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: And what I did was I start I started with that, but I also took the liquid, like from sauerkraut, for instance, you know, raw sauerkraut that's not pasteurized.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: I would, I couldn't eat the cabbage part.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: It instantly would end up giving me bloating constipation.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: But I could take a like a medicine dropper and I would take like one, I would start with one drop of the liquid, and I could tolerate that.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: And but I would use it in combination with ginger and turmeric.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I would put diluted peppermint over my abdomen, you know, essential oil.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, a clean, good source of essential oil, I get mine from the Health Ranger, um, properly diluted, then I rub it on the abdomen.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: And on a physical level, that helped to, you know, rebalance the microbiome, because that's what you're trying to do is rebalance the microbiome.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: But if you look at researchers and practitioners who are now considered leading experts in small intestinal bacteria overgrowth and SIBO, the really good ones will tell you that you can start correcting these things with uh these imbalances with these physical um you know treatments, but that there is the emotional component.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: So they are now saying these really good leading practitioners, and I agree with them, are saying that the ultimate root cause of even SIBO um it stems on the emotional level.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's stress.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: So there's the physical stress that happened with the pinworm treatment.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're pointing to yes, yeah, yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: It is it is the stress level.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't can you let's see.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Can you unmute?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I still can you hear me now?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, I was just saying I had a new baby like right at that time, and he had surgery at the same time.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean there were a few things going on.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a few, yes.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like I would say those count as stress.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, so so the stress is ultimately and and the reason I say that too, um, even in intuitively we know this, but you can track this now in studies where if somebody has dysbiosis, for example, uh, a lot of times they'll do stool tests, you know.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I even have a stool test that I like, but the problem is it captures that individual moment, right?
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just that moment in time.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: There are studies where you can have one belly laugh, you know, like one real bout of laughter.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: And in real time, it shifts the microbiome and it shows up on the test.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: So it's such a sta, uh, you know, a dynamic environment that we they have been able to show that a stressful bout, but also relieving stress can in real time shift the microbiome.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: So it can create dysbiosis, but it can also create harmony and a regulated microbiome.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I would address doing these physical things, you know, um working with your practitioner.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, when I was trying to heal my children, uh you know, not only was there the psychology of telling them that they are not sick, you know, uh the body is just adjusting uh to the environment, because the environment's internal and external, but we did a lot of play.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: So to get them to not stress and to be able to heal faster, laughter is truly the best medicine.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: So we we did incorporate a lot of play.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of the reasons why I started game schooling for our homeschooling, uh, to set that tone for the entire day.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: So um, does that answer your question, Michelle?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: That a thousand percent answers my question.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, and feel free to reach out.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm home now, I'm not traveling anymore, you know, for the book and speaking gig.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: So now I can get back on Discord.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: So feel free to reach out directly, you know, if you're having any further issues or if anything else I can help with than that.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Joel, do you have a suggestion, suggestion to control duckweed in a pond, most likely spring fed?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: What's the best resource for learning how to maintain a pond without chemicals?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_02: So duckweed is actually very, very good.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh high protein.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: It indicates your water is clean.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, it's as high protein as uh soybeans.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so if you want some cheap protein feed for your livestock, you can skim it off and feed it to your animals.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I don't view duckweed as a problem.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I view duckweed as an indicator that the water's clean and it's you know, you it's turning whatever nutrients are in there into something pretty good.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the the key to a pond in general is um is vertical sides.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: You want you want as steep a side as possible.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: And um, because don't worry, they're gonna they're gonna slough in over time anyway.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: You'll get you'll get enough cattails um on the on the non-dam end, okay.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: So you want to go as steep sides as possible to start and uh and as deep as possible until you have as many as many um hydrologic zones as possible, you know, your top zone, middle zone, bottom zone, and the more zones you have, the more different uh kinds of animals and plants will grow in there.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: But uh in general, I don't consider duckweed a a problem.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, you know, when I see it on any of our ponds, it'll it'll come and go and come and go.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: And um when I see it, I'm actually very happy because it indicates that the water quality is pretty good.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh okay, great.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, Joel, the next one comes from Rebecca who messaged this in through email.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wondering what Joel's take is on the Sabbath for the land.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we're not under the old covenant, but looking at the things that God has called us to, it always seems multi-purposeful.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Letting the land rest proved that they trusted in him to supply all their needs, but surely it was also for the health of the soil.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to hear your thoughts.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: So uh let's start start with the easy part first.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um the easy part is that the Sabbath, the land rest did not include perennial pastures.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um if you if you look at if you look at the um the land elements of the of the Sabbath in Leviticus.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: So if you go to um Leviticus, Leviticus chapter 25, um that's that that is really goes into this, you know, six years you will sow your fields, six years you will prune your vineyard, but in the seventh year it would be a Sabbath the rest of the land, neither sow nor prune your vineyard.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Throughout the I'm I'm not gonna read the whole chapter, but throughout the chapter, it never it never mentions uh perennial pastures or grasslands.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: I've actually talked to rabbis, talked to people that you know know more about this than I do, and have asked them about it, and the consensus seems to be that it did not, it did not include there there was no rest required for pastures, because if you're in in this nomadic situation where you're moving the animals around all the time, the pastures, the pastures are soil regenerative.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: So the energy flow, the so we get a little more technical, the energy flow is into the soil with perennials, and it's out of the soil with annuals.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: Annuals annuals pull energy from the soil and put it into a fruit, uh, you know, a big seed or something.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas perennials put energy into the soil.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: And so my understanding then is that the that the that the seventh year rest was to um was to rest the tilled ground, and of course they did tilled ground.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean they were they they they raised plenty of uh you know bread, bread was a staple, and so they planted a lot of wheat, barley, oats.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and so it was for that land, and of course, garden, you know, vegetables and things, and so it was for that land that it was um that it was so critical.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that's one thing.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Now, um notice that in the same chapter he says that in in the sixth year before the sabbatic, before the seventh, in the sixth year, he says, I forget which verse it is, but anyway, he says that it's gonna grow, um it's gonna go grow three times, it's gonna go grow three years worth of growth in that year.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Now, um what that indicates is that in that sixth year the land, and this is what a lot of people don't understand, is that in that sixth year, somehow God made the land produce three times more than normal.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: So imagine, imagine your corn crop, wheat crop, vineyard, whatever, producing three years worth of production in one year.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: To my knowledge, that has not been done since.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to get into a great big theological um uh yeah, there it is, Leviticus 25, 21.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Aaron.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: That in the sixth year it will bring forth produce enough for three years.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: So obviously they were that third in that sixth year, they were to preserve it, you know, probably mainly dehydrating at that time.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: They would have, you know, sun-dried a Mediterranean climate, um, made raisins out of the grapes and wine and and and dried their vegetables and things, um, and stored the grain for bread making for that period of time.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know any system, even the people that want to practice this, who are today who are getting three times an annual production average on that sixth year.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, we are under the age of grace now, we're not under the law, but I also you know very much appreciate you know uh uh uh general recommendations uh in the Levitical record.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: Some of these were made just to make sure that they understood that God was in charge, and others I think had pretty strong ecological reasons, like when they entered the land of Canaan, don't cut the fruit trees.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: You can cut the other trees, don't cut the fruit trees.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um does that mean you can never cut a fruit tree?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: No, but it it it meant it God was protecting them from starvation uh to say, you know, uh the the fruit trees have special a special place.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: So um I don't I don't have I don't have definitive answers.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: But I think I think in general uh the the pasture was not rested because it was rested throughout due to the rotate the the nomadic grazing and it was the annuals and the vineyards, the orchards that were let go for that year, but there was a three-fold increase the year before.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: If you can if you can show me a three-fold increase the year before, uh then I'll be ready to say there's there's something ecological going on.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, I don't think they practiced composting at that time.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they didn't have chippers and shredders and front-end loaders, and and uh they certainly had they certainly had organic matter.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: But um uh I'm not sure that they practiced what we would consider composting, like we would do it, you know, in a in a serious commercial way today.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: So that the fallow was was important.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: But I I I think I think this has don't make it walk on ecological all fours.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think it has as much to do, you know, uh spiritually with the people than it does ecologically.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh um especially if you're you know if you're dumping if you're dumping a lot of organic matter and compost on your garden, uh you can probably grow stuff every year because you're building soil.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: And and the the temptation there was in their in their with the tools that they had and everything that they did, um, they had trouble, you know, um building soil.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that's a definitive answer, but I hope it rambled enough to give you some ideas.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that was a great question and a great answer.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: I I had never thought about that.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'll add one thing to that.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, I was just in Israel um back in February doing farm seminars, and um in Jerusalem, down in the um the valley of Molech there, uh that's off the Temple Mount, there's a 37-acre farm called um uh the the farm of David.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And what they've done there is they're trying to do a demonstration farm with every plant and every animal that was common to Old Testament Israel so that kids and people can come and see the see the different, you know, see what a pomegranate looks like, see what you know a grape looks like, see what a sheep, a donkey, whatever looks like.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: And they asked me to come because they were having trouble with disease and smell.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, you know, you've got to have, you've got to, you know, if you have a public place like that, you don't want it to stink and and you don't want a bunch of sick animals.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I spent a I spent a uh a half a day with them, and they were very, very open and receptive, and I introduced them to the carbonaceous diaper, the deep bedding concept, and to moving the animals, the different animals from one pen to another.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: They could have the sheep, the the cow, the donkey, and they could rotate the pins to to so they're not in the same place all the time.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: It was all it was amazing, it was all revolutionary thinking.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: They never they never thought about the rotating the animals around or giving the lounge areas where they had them pinned up so people could pet them and stuff, uh giving them a deep bedding instead of just dirt or concrete, you know, that would, that would um where there was no no uh sponge for the manure and urine.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: So even the modern day uh you know what I brought to them from an ecological and sanitation perspective was was brand new.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_02: And it was fun to fun to be there and and encourage them.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's move on to the next question because now we only this goes by so fast.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: We only have 15 minutes.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: So this comes from Molly.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we just moved to a property that has highlines on it.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I know this is not not ideal and not what we wanted, but in our area around so many dams, we don't have a lot of options and we can't move out of area due to custody of my stepson.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wondering if there's a way to mitigate anything since we're already here.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's a great question.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so first of all, when things like this happen to me, I don't stress.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like I know it's so easy to, you know, because we hear all these things about EMFs and uh how damaging they are.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not denying that I'm actually sensitive to EMFs, but the stress alone can make it substantially worse.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: So you're you're already in the situation.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: So what I tend to do is know that um God is always there protecting me.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: He hasn't turned his back on me, and that he knows what I can handle.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so if I'm in that situation, it's because he knows that I can physically, mentally, emotionally handle it.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: So having said that, I always have an EMF meter on hand.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've bought one.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just keep it at my house.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I use it frequently.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: I would personally use the meter.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you need one that measures electric fields and magnetic fields.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I you can get one on Amazon even.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I would actually walk the property, you know, walk the home, walk the property.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: And usually what you'll find out is that the fields drop significantly the further you move away from the lines, for example.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I would go around personally and see which rooms in my house are like the cleanest of EMFs and which have the higher readings.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: And the ones that are the cleanest are the ones where I would have asleep.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so the ones you're spending most of your time in.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: So we'd sleep in those cleaner areas.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: The kids would play in those cleaner areas.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that would be start number one.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I always have a dirty electricity filter that's, you know, attached out in the garage where our circuit board is.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: So that's hands down, no matter if I had that high line there or not.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I have the, I would, I would install a dirty electricity filter, which you can do it yourself.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like my husband and I are not um very handy people yet, but we were even able to do it.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the other thing is you can actually do physical barriers.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I have some friends who have put up like shielding paints or shielding fabrics.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't like the shielding internal paints that I have found because of the chemicals that are in them, but they'll put up shielding fabrics.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: So before, if that is an option, you can do that.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but but to before you do that, I would use the meter.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because sometimes what happens is people put up shields or these fabrics, and then they end up bouncing the EMFs back off of them into their into the room, which magnifies the effect.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: So you need to measure before you do it and after you do it, you know, to make sure um that you're not making the situation worse.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: You can use grounding mass um or like the Faraday cages, and you can sleep under them.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: I tried that.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: You it works for some people, you have to be careful because they can sometimes act as an antenna.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they need to be properly grounded.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have an expansive uh field, like a biofield, which is the problem that I ran into, it can interact with it um and intensify the situation.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I like natural grounding.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: You can, you know, go barefoot outside um in an area away from those lines to help your body reset its own charge.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: You can also um Increase your antioxidant support.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: High frequency foods, you know, ones that have um uh coherent light and water, uh organic, mineral dense foods, they can actually help support your body's own electrical integrity.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um you can, you know, I pray a lot about it.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: So you can actually pray for protection from the fields that has actually worked very well for me.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um you you basically want to build up your your own um biofield.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: So anything you can think of to do that, including detoxification, right?
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: You want to keep your physical body as detoxed as possible, but also the emotional detox side of it, will help you to be able to combat um any electromagnetic fields that are you know a result of the location where you live.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I hope that was sufficient.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: If not, you can message me on on Discord.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, for let's see.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think I saw one for Joel.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Joel, you wrote about your dad using tires and cement, I think to help stabilize fence posts on bedrock.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Is there something else you would recommend now in 2026 for livestock fence on rock?
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, today there are really there uh there are things called a cordless drill.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have them back in our day, back in that time.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh cordless drill with a good masonry bit.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they use in Israel because there's rocks everywhere there.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, and you can just drill a drill a hole in um and in 30 seconds or so you can drill a hole in, stick your electric fence stake in, and go right on.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, perfect.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right, that's like a lightning round answer.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! Like I think we're gonna get through the questions this time.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: First time ever.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so this one's from Mike.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I often see pigs for sale at a great price that are several months old.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: They have been raised in poor conditions and probably fed GMO corn and soy.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a cutoff point at which an animal is too old to turn around?
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm curious if I could save some money by buying these animals and then putting them on pasture and quality feed for a few months before butchering.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I I think in general, you're if you've got a source for that, um, I think you're probably gonna be okay.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh is there a i I mean, I would certainly I would certainly keep them for you know three or four months to detox.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: You're not I don't know how big they are.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: You said several months.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean we butcher our pigs at eight months, so several months this could be, you know, four or five months.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm not sure why they'd be sold at that time, but uh just detox, I would think, would take, you know, 90 to 100 days to just be satisfied of that.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, and of course your best detox is going to be to make sure they get plenty of grass.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: Chlorophyll, chlorophyll is nature's number one detoxicant.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so make sure they got plenty of grass, you're moving them around a lot, and they got a lot of exercise.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I would say the main caution is if these are, if these, if these pigs are are um, you know, industrially raised, chances are their genetics are going to be the biggest problem.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: Not not something, you know, that they haven't been raised well or or that they've got you know glyphosate in their feet or whatever, but that they're actually genetically, they're what we call Arnold Schwarze piggies, where they look like a they look like a square box and uh and and their rear is flat, you know, their whole back rear flat head is all flat, and their hindquarters stick out uh stick out beyond their rib cage, uh, and they walk real uh you know kind of arthritically.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we call those Arnold Schwarzeneggies.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Those are those are what all the industry uses.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, under our conditions outside, those pigs actually die a lot of times.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: They just can't make they're not they're not physically, they're not um physiologically in a position where they can actually handle, you know, um exercise.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: And our pigs get a lot of exercise.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: And um so so I think you got two things to watch.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: One is to get them detoxed.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's you know a 90 to 100 day uh period, lots of grass, and then look at the phenotype.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a pig that will actually thrive and respond in uh in an outdoor situation?
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of those pigs are so they're so lean that uh they're actually pretty fragile from a from you know from an immune system.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_02: You want a pig that can you know put on some fat.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: So um with those two things in mind, I think if you've got a source and you can uh you can get pigs at a at a interesting kind of salvage price, um, I'm all for uh salvage salvage prices.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I love that.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_01: And um we're gonna go to Derek, but quickly I'm gonna put just one link here in the chat for anybody who wants to look.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: This is a review from 2021 called Um Medicinal Plants in Mitigating Electromagnetic Radiation Induced Neuronal Damage, a concise review.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: And in here, they're acknowledging the risk of exposure to these EMFs.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: And they're also acknowledging some herbs that you can use um for neuroprotective effects uh when you're exposed to um to EMFs.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I like these because it lets you know that there are things that God already gave us to help protect us from these man-made um inventions.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, you know, you know, Cena, that's interesting because we one of one of the farms that we, one of the properties that we lease, um has a a massive uh power line, a high line running through it.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, we you know we go over there, we graze, we do all things, and we have never seen any indication of any, and I'm not saying I'm I'm not I'm not poo-pooing MFs, okay?
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_02: Don't read into this, but we've never seen any difference of behavior, health, growth, anything under those power, but but we have an absolute plethora of different kinds of plants, plantain, chicory, goldenrod, all sorts of plants in those pastures because of our controlled grazing management.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so I really appreciate you sharing that about that there is and and our animals get lots of minerals.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_02: We dump tons of minerals in them.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: So they get the herbs, they get minerals.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: And um, now that you mentioned that, I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons why we haven't seen anything under these massive, massive power lines.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: I love that because yes, that's what we see in the scientific literature, and they're also getting the sun, right?
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: And and they're getting yeah, they're they're not in a they're not in a building.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and so the the sun is uh actually also healing to help create coherent light in the body.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I would say all those things, you know, and your minerals are needed too for the light to help travel uh on the fi, you know, through the fascia.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, Derek.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, this is a question about private membership associations.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: Joel, I remember hearing you say that they were limited to 400 members.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_03: I spoke with Morgan at Cherue.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_03: She said that she spoke with you about that to say stop saying that.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um I just want to know where you're that information.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: And if you still sign it, that it's 400 look emancipation proclamation.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you're breaking up a lot.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_02: We we only caught about half of your half of your comment, your questions there, but uh in in general, um PMAs, I think, are falling into ill re into disrepute right now.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: I am I I am not endorsing PMAs at all.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there are more and more people that are going to court or being the the government's coming in after them and penetrating those PMAs.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um so there's there's a real problem there.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm not a fan of PMAs.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh I think that's a that's probably a short enough answer for right now.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_02: I I think people are are going to them um uh thinking that they can solve a lot more problems than they can.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that it's uh a lot of the people pushing PMAs, the the gurus of PMAs, have not been honest with a lot of people.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just I'll just say that.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, that's a little disappointing.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, and we have a minute left.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know Nolan wants to announce something, but I think I've missed one up here.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: This is Dick and Patty.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: After having staph, which turned into MERSA, then C.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: diff along with E.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: coli.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was wondering if after the antibiotic treatments were prescribed or taken, would oregano oil and black seed or black wanna oil be called for in order to completely cleanse the digestive system?
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: This is an interesting question.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and Dick, feel free to um email me uh because there's a lot more to this.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: So um these oils, I actually would use these as treatment.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: So like so let's talk over email on that one, but um the because that could be actually part of the treatment.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: And also um fasting is one of the the best ways to cleanse the digestive system.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_01: There's also this product that um Dr.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: Tom Cowan and I both love this product by Rob Revelations called Detoxify, and it has activated charcoal, wildcrafted, um uh um baobab fruit pulp, um minerals, you know, the seaweed extract.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: And this one is fantastic as well for cleansing uh digestive system, and it's and it's pretty gentle.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, some of these other oils, um, you you really have to know uh you really have to know the dilution and the dosage for you because they can be a little bit harsh.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: But um but yes, so uh to answer quick quickly, uh Dick, I do use essential oils, but I use them as my first line of treatment.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: Fasting and that other supplement can can help you as well, but feel free to reach out to me.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Cena.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's Patty.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: I feared this is what you would say about using them as the cure.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'll email you.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, that would be great.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Nolan, I'm gonna turn it over to you.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_05: All right, very good, very good.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: We made it, we made it through all the questions.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_05: We made it halfway, halfway back to uh from polyface to here, and here we are.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um, all right.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_05: So uh uh as I announced uh previously, we're giving away uh Dr.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_05: Cena's newly published book, Hands Off My Food, with um uh a little signed copy, which is uh pretty exciting.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_05: And uh I think we had about 53, 54 or so people, which is pretty good odds, much better than the lottery.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_05: So you are uh uh the winner is Molly De Corta.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, and Seema seems to be happy about that.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_05: So this is great.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_05: All right, Molly.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I've already reached out to you over chat.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you've already sent me your email address and all of that kind of stuff.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_05: And if you could just drop your um address, if we get disconnected here, I will connect um with you via email, but we will get that out to you as soon as we possibly can.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_05: So congratulations.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! Okay, Joel, do you want to close us out?
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: Our Lord, we're just grateful for the chance to be able to share, to learn, and to learn from each other, and uh to to drill down into how to be better stewards of everything that you own, including us.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh we appreciate everyone who's joined, uh, appreciate the level of knowledge that you've given and the things that we don't know yet that we're learning.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh go with us and bless us through uh the week and give us uh joy and enthusiasm to uh seek you for instruction and uh and serve one another.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: We pray in Christ's name.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: All right, thank you everybody for joining us.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait for the next one.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.