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MLB player alcohol/cannabis article + Stephen Nelson talks Dodgers pitching debacles & October prep · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Crat that's on the case.
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Speaker 2: Wow, we don't do it often.
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Speaker 3: When we need our lawyer involved. Eric Kraft gets the call.
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Speaker 3: He's on the case.
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Speaker 1: I am on the case.
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Speaker 2: Okay. So here's the article America drinking less than ever,
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Speaker 2: and the same is true for baseball players.
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Speaker 3: I am going to rely on others because I like
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Speaker 3: a good adult beverage. So a lot of this article
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Speaker 3: did not resonate with me when they were talking about
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Speaker 3: the general public, but when they were talking about baseball players.
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Speaker 3: It is something that I've seen for years now. Baseball
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Speaker 3: players and this was the article in Yahoo written by
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Speaker 3: Jake Min's baseball players are having less drank and having
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Speaker 3: more cannabis edibles whatever. That was part of it. Way less,
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Speaker 3: going out, way less. And that's been a thing, you know,
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Speaker 3: when you come across them, they're like, Oh, the baseball
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Speaker 3: guys they party hard, right, I'm like they used to.
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Speaker 3: Now it stands out like a sore thumb when you
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Speaker 3: have the guy in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 2: Who's hitting the streets pretty frequently.
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Speaker 3: In fact, the article went over how Derek Jeter would
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Speaker 3: go out frequently, and he spoke about it in the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years on some interviews, and they said
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Speaker 3: they were trying to think about the last player that
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Speaker 3: was really hitting the town frequently and that was getting
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Speaker 3: publicity for it. Do you know the name they brought
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Speaker 3: up in the.
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Speaker 1: Article recently banded publicity?
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Speaker 3: I mean there were some moments where it wasn't good, yeah,
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Speaker 3: but just knowing that there was a guy who was
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Speaker 3: really hitting the town taking advantage of being in a
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Speaker 3: big market, Matt Harvey. Do you know any name since
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Speaker 3: that where you'd be like, Oh, this guy's going out
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Speaker 3: all the time.
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Speaker 1: That's the last one. I mean c Jon's gone ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not to me, not the same.
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Speaker 3: It would be like, oh, Harvey's out, he's at He's
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Speaker 3: at this club, he's at that club, he's with this person,
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Speaker 3: he's you know, there were some lateness issues stuff like that, Right,
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Speaker 3: that was.
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Speaker 1: A star, dude, That was a star. That Because when
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Speaker 1: you get older, we don't have greenies anymore. In the game,
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Speaker 1: Greenies used to be the thing that guys would go.
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Speaker 1: They'd go out. It was a bad cycle and I
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Speaker 1: saw it even when I was in the game and
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Speaker 1: they got rid of greenies in two thousand and six.
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Speaker 1: Guys would go out, they would drink for a decent
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Speaker 1: amount of time. They'd come back, they'd sleep, they'd go
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Speaker 1: to the game. They're like, oh, I am feeling it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Whether they were twenty three or thirty three,
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Speaker 1: Papa Greenie Banger rang for the game. Now it's twelve
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Speaker 1: o'clock at night and they're like this laying in bed,
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Speaker 1: can't blink like Pete Fairbanks on the mound, Like, no
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Speaker 1: blinking because that greene is still running through your body.
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Speaker 1: So then you go and you have a little bit
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Speaker 1: more to drink that night the next day. It's a
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Speaker 1: cycle that just kept going. And we know so much
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Speaker 1: more about nutrition now, not saying that alcohol is completely
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Speaker 1: bad for your nutrition or you know, in a you know,
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Speaker 1: in moderation, it's there. But when you're talking about partying, dudes,
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Speaker 1: it's a year round thing. Being a big lead player.
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Speaker 1: Back in the eighties and nineties, it was, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to spring training to get my body ready to go,
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Speaker 1: and when I the season's over, I'm probably not gonna
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Speaker 1: pick up a batter or ball and I'll figure it
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Speaker 1: out in spring training. Now it's nutrition. You have dietitians,
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Speaker 1: you have cooks, you have stuff, and there guys are
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Speaker 1: changing how they go about things, how they go about
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Speaker 1: their health and nutrition. And it talks about in this
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Speaker 1: article talks about cherry juice. Cherry juice has been in
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Speaker 1: there since I was playing, and I've been out for
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Speaker 1: five years. Like Hammer and cherry juice for anti inflammatory purposes.
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Speaker 1: Everything is about anti inflammatory. There's blood tests that you
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Speaker 1: can take that will tell you, hey, you know what
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Speaker 1: your body is allergic, not like allergic, like deathly allergic,
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Speaker 1: but allergic to stuff. Like I played with a guy,
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Speaker 1: a pitcher, always had chronic shoulder issue, took this blood test,
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Speaker 1: found out he was allergic to salmon and broccoli. He's like, dude,
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Speaker 1: I was. He was one of the most healthy people
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Speaker 1: ever starter five days in like he was always on
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Speaker 1: top of everything. Found out salmon and broccoli were causing inflammation,
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Speaker 1: shoulder pain. Completely gone. Wow, that kind of stuff is.
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Speaker 1: That's where we're at in the game, and that's where
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Speaker 1: I'm fortunate that I played during this era where you
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Speaker 1: could learn this stuff. And my body feels great after
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Speaker 1: playing and I wasn't even a very good player. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't a very good player, but availability is the best
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Speaker 1: ability and all this stuff, all this health stuff helps
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Speaker 1: so much. Need ability for sure, Yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying I didn't have. I joke about it
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Speaker 1: all the time. I didn't have the ability that Todd had.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have the ability. There's a reason I hit
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Speaker 1: two oh nine in the big leagues, whether it's the
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Speaker 1: fact that you know, I didn't play a lot, or
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Speaker 1: it was the fact that I just wasn't as good
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Speaker 1: as the other guys. You have to be available to play,
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Speaker 1: and the stars have that extra money to be able
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Speaker 1: to put in into their nutrition.
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Speaker 2: Todd, you played for the Mets, And they're mentioned a
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Speaker 2: lot in here.
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Speaker 3: Just because they refer to the eighties Mets, and then
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Speaker 3: they talk about the current Mets. The article starts by
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Speaker 3: talking about how there's like this little MIDI fridge and
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Speaker 3: it's got some beers and it barely gets touched, and
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Speaker 3: for the most part, the guys hit up the cherry juice,
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Speaker 3: the smoothies, the protein shakes, and then I don't know
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Speaker 3: if this was a matter someone else, but one multi
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Speaker 3: time All Star told them in the article, it's become
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Speaker 3: a European style of drinking where it's like I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: have something to enjoy it and it's not to get
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Speaker 3: drunk to go out raise hell, because you can't do that.
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Speaker 2: And later in the article they talk about.
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Speaker 3: Even Ron Darling's book and how he said that hitters
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Speaker 3: would shot gun beers at certain times during games. He
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Speaker 3: said they time it so that they were due to
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Speaker 3: hit third or fourth that inning, and in their minds,
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Speaker 3: the rush of beer would kind of jump start the
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Speaker 3: amphetamines and get back to how they were feeling early
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Speaker 3: on in the game.
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Speaker 2: Pumped, jacked, good to go. Eighties mets were.
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Speaker 1: But a movie. But that's the thing, that's why they
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Speaker 1: would do that, Like don't looss over the side, like
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Speaker 1: the amphetamine starts wearing offs, and so when you hit
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Speaker 1: the alcohol, it basically it gives you another another jump start,
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Speaker 1: and you're in a seventh eighth inning, yep, and you're
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Speaker 1: banging ready to go. Rally beers they called him, it did,
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Speaker 1: at least I called him that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was evolving around Greenies because it was essentially
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Speaker 3: a performance.
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Speaker 1: I never did it to get to enhance myself.
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Speaker 4: It was I got thrown out of a game or something,
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Speaker 4: and I would have we're down three runs, trying I
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Speaker 4: need a rally, have some rally Beers to get those
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Speaker 4: three runs.
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Speaker 1: Tod's not saying he drank when he was in the game. No,
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Speaker 1: never get thrown out of the game. I never did.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even think about doing that. I don't. But
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Speaker 1: it was a different time. It was a different time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure.
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Speaker 4: You know you had you had pictures that weren't pitching
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Speaker 4: that day. You need a rally beer, let's go well,
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Speaker 4: let's go up and get one down, and that saying
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Speaker 4: you know we won the game. No, it didn't happen
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Speaker 4: all the time. It was just a figure of speech
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Speaker 4: for certain things.
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Speaker 1: Yes, teams are going through it. You ask them that
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Speaker 1: player right now, they're going through it. They've lost five straight,
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Speaker 1: I think, or six straight. I'm not sure. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it's talked about, yep, because there's guys that don't do anything.
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Speaker 1: You're sitting on the bench and you're like, I am
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Speaker 1: not getting in this game, or I just walked in
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Speaker 1: my one pinch hit appearance and now I'm out and
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the bench. Anything to get the boys
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Speaker 1: going because you don't feel like you have any control
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Speaker 1: over what's going on on the field.
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Speaker 3: Famous so for Red Sox and the documentary Everyone Too
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Speaker 3: a shot, you know you could see that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of instances.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the point here is now it's video games,
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Speaker 3: it's edibles. That's what the guys do. There's a lot
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Speaker 3: more hiding in the hotel rooms going home. The other
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Speaker 3: portion of this story was exactly that they asked guys
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Speaker 3: why they don't go out and they said phone. And
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Speaker 3: they said phone for two reasons. One, they don't want
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Speaker 3: people capture and stuff and put it on even if
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Speaker 3: it's nothing. They just don't want them to be choking.
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Speaker 3: And then the next day if they don't hat, well,
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Speaker 3: oh well it's because they went out to a bar
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Speaker 3: and had a couple of beers. And then also some
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Speaker 3: of them mentioned how they like there was one story
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Speaker 3: in there how they celebrated after a postseason series and
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Speaker 3: they said everyone's just putting phones and faces at them
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Speaker 3: and they're like, that's not even a fun experience. So
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Speaker 3: I want to party privately and it it's.
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Speaker 1: A something to connect social media and stuff is to
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Speaker 1: connect to players. But when it's done like that, My
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Speaker 1: one buddy, my one buddy was had a big hit
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh day game, went to the bar right across
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Speaker 1: the street. Got there, just got there, served him a
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Speaker 1: nice cold beer, and he's sitting like this on the phone.
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Speaker 1: Somebody posted the picture of him like this, passed out,
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Speaker 1: said so and so has passed out at the bar
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Speaker 1: hour and a half after the game. Wonder what he
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Speaker 1: was doing. So he had to then he had to
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Speaker 1: go into the front office. He goes, I'm never going
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Speaker 1: out again. I'm never going out again. Near near the field.
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Speaker 1: It was just like it was a day game in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 2: And he's looking down to it looks like his eyes
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Speaker 2: are closed.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. He's sitting he's sitting just like this.
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Speaker 1: And his phone was below the bar and he's like this,
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Speaker 1: So it looks like he's hammered.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want one player now to just be the guy.
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Speaker 3: He just goes out. He just is proud of it.
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Speaker 3: He's one of the studs. And he's like, yeah, you
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Speaker 3: got a problem with that. No, as long as he's
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Speaker 3: you know, he's behaving, he's not getting arrested or anything.
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Speaker 3: But it's like, hey, I'm hitting the town a couple
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Speaker 3: times a week.
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Speaker 2: None of them do it.
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Speaker 1: It won't happen. It won't happen. The best players in
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Speaker 1: the game hit below three hundred, they're hitting two ninety.
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Speaker 1: That means you're getting out seven out of ten times.
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Speaker 1: As soon as you go, oh for four and you're
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Speaker 1: posting that stuff, the team is gonna come to you.
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Speaker 1: The team strength coach, assistant strength coach, trainers, dietitians, all
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Speaker 1: this stuff. Don't even pull a hammy and somebody sees
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Speaker 1: you drinking, Oh he's dehydrated. Doesn't care.
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Speaker 4: Even in other sports, they don't really go on and
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Speaker 4: where it's the phones man, the videos. It's you can't
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Speaker 4: get away with nothing, just to go and have a
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Speaker 4: drink at a bar after a game because you're struggling,
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Speaker 4: like you know who's at the bar here?
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: Like the other sports.
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Speaker 3: They go out more than baseball. Peter, basketball and hockey,
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Speaker 3: they all go out.
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Speaker 2: More than baseball.
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Speaker 1: They have off days.
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Speaker 2: They have off days.
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Speaker 1: That's so, don't give baseball players off days. Don't shorten
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Speaker 1: the schedule, give him more off takes.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Steven Nelson joining us right now in foul Territory.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you and I have been on together yet,
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Speaker 3: have we?
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Speaker 1: No, Scottie.
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Speaker 5: I am just gonna say it's been five years, has
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Speaker 5: he done anything together?
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Speaker 1: He was ducking you, Steven. That's what it is.
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Speaker 3: Only Steve and I and a few others know we've
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Speaker 3: been in the trenches in the broadcast of filling it
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Speaker 3: for people who you know, dog gets the homework and
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Speaker 3: you get the call and you know you're somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: You got to put on the freaking Superman Batman suit
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Speaker 3: and run in, right, you know.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we we were forged in those fires together. Yes, dude,
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Speaker 5: Pressure Kratzy, haven't seen you in a minute and phrase
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Speaker 5: great to be on with you guys as well.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you, dude.
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Speaker 2: All right, so let's get into things. So you're calling
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Speaker 2: the series this weekend.
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Speaker 3: What do you have for us on the state of
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers right this second in terms of preparations for
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Speaker 3: the postseason, because that's really the theme all year for
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Speaker 3: this team, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 5: I mean, this four game win streak certainly a healthy
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Speaker 5: vibe changer for the Dodgers, and they needed it. They
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Speaker 5: had lost seven of eight. They were losing seemingly every
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Speaker 5: game to losing teams or last place teams. We saw
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Speaker 5: that road trip start Pirates swept them. It looked like
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Speaker 5: the Orioles may do that as well, but they avoided that.
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Speaker 5: And so this four game run here and the way
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Speaker 5: they've won these four games has really been encouraging because
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Speaker 5: this summer undoubtedly has been disappointing in Dodger Land, and
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Speaker 5: the criticisms and concerns levied toward this team totally fair
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Speaker 5: because it isn't just a small stretch you go back
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Speaker 5: to the fourth of July. They've been one of the
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Speaker 5: three or four worst teams in all Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 5: and so that's no small thing. But to your point,
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Speaker 5: which is the biggest one, it is and has always
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Speaker 5: been about October for this team. Now they might have
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Speaker 5: to play an extra series because of the way this
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Speaker 5: summer has gone. They may find themselves in a wildcard series.
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Speaker 5: But the way that the starting pitching has been dominating,
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Speaker 5: not just doing a good job or doing well, they've
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Speaker 5: been dominating of late, and the way that Mookie Betts
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Speaker 5: has rediscovered himself and the way that guys are now
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Speaker 5: coming back healthy. It certainly has given some a win
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Speaker 5: to the sales of this team, as he had to
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Speaker 5: the final two weeks and change the regular season.
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Speaker 1: This is their nerve though in Dodger Land because they've
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Speaker 1: been just trouncing the Rockies. I know they were losing
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Speaker 1: to them before, but this, like this resurgence came on
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Speaker 1: the heels of playing, in my opinion, a better Orioles team.
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Speaker 1: But then Dodgers were finding a way to snatch victory
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Speaker 1: or snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. And
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Speaker 1: that's how that series went. All of that surrounding that
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Speaker 1: they were losing on the road. Now they could be
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Speaker 1: that wild card team that may not have that division,
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Speaker 1: may not have that home field. I think they're still
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Speaker 1: going to get the home field. I think the Padres
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Speaker 1: are even worse off than the Dodgers. But is that
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Speaker 1: fear of playing on the road more fearful that of
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Speaker 1: than anything else than any of the other problems that
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Speaker 1: they've had coming up to this point.
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Speaker 5: No, Honestly, I do think that the road struggles in
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Speaker 5: the road record are more coincidental than anything like that.
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Speaker 5: They were playing road games at a time where the
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Speaker 5: team was just not playing good ball, not clean baseball,
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Speaker 5: not smart baseball. Like I think you said it fairly,
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Speaker 5: like they were finding ways to lose games. That's something
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Speaker 5: Dave Roberts said multiple times during the summer, is like,
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Speaker 5: that's a game we can't lose. We found a way
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Speaker 5: to give that We've we gave that game away, And
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Speaker 5: those are things that you're not accustomed to hearing. There
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Speaker 5: is this weird emotional position in the minds of Dodger
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Speaker 5: fans because of the last dozen years. Right they're trying
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Speaker 5: for a twelfth Division title in a thirteen year stretch.
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Speaker 5: There has been a level of dominance as well to that,
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Speaker 5: and it got to the point where I think a
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Speaker 5: lot of fans said, I don't care about the Nashley
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Speaker 5: West anymore. It's just about the World Series. And that's
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Speaker 5: something that the team addresses day one and spring training.
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Speaker 5: It is about winning a World Series title if not,
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Speaker 5: everything else is a failure. They addressed that elephant in
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Speaker 5: the room day one. It came back ranching Glendale. But
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Speaker 5: these last two years, with the division race being tighter,
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Speaker 5: they didn't cleach it until the last series against San
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Speaker 5: Diego in twenty twenty four, and they still almost got
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Speaker 5: knocked out in the Division Series. And then certainly this
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Speaker 5: year as they're on track to you know, barely scratch
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Speaker 5: ninety wins, now it's like, well, wait, wait, wait, Now
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Speaker 5: they're longing for those days where they're winning the division
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Speaker 5: by fifteen twenty games and coasting in the postseason. But
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Speaker 5: I think that ultimately this will be a healthy thing
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Speaker 5: for them. Cratzy, I think to kind of be humbled.
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Speaker 5: Not that the guys in the clubhouse were braggadocious. I'm
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Speaker 5: just saying generally where it's like, Okay, this isn't just
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Speaker 5: going to be a cakewalk. Not that again, not that
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Speaker 5: any of them thought baseball of all sports is going
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Speaker 5: to be a cakewalk, but for them to be like, wow,
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Speaker 5: this is we're really having to fight and scratch and
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Speaker 5: claw for every single win, no matter the record or
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Speaker 5: the opponent across the field, I feel that that is
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Speaker 5: a big thing, not just for the Dodgers, really any
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Speaker 5: team that's playing for postseason balls. So you know, try
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Speaker 5: to address the team and you know your question about
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Speaker 5: the fans, I do think that there is some angst,
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Speaker 5: in some nervousness because you know, in the last ten
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Speaker 5: plus years, they're normally getting ready to clinch in the
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Speaker 5: middle of September, and that's not the case these last
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Speaker 5: two seasons.
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Speaker 4: I think they're honestly giving everything the Oakie Doc. Right now,
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Speaker 4: they're just baiting them all in take your wins, and
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Speaker 4: then Boom wants the playoff hit. It's like flipping a
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Speaker 4: switch in my opinion.
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Speaker 5: But I hear you Fras and like, I think like
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Speaker 5: the other aspect of that is they're getting every team's
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Speaker 5: best haymaker. I remember watching you guys when Logan o'hapi
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Speaker 5: was on after the Angels swept the most recent Freeway
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Speaker 5: series and he talked about not being able to go
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Speaker 5: to sleep after those games, like that's how turned up.
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Speaker 5: I would say most opponents are for the Dodgers throughout
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Speaker 5: the year. So I remember Mookie Bett's got a ton
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Speaker 5: of crap after the fan fest last year where he's like,
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Speaker 5: we're going to be every team's World Series and everyone's like,
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Speaker 5: how can you say something like that. I think he's
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Speaker 5: been vindicated and validated in what he has said to
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Speaker 5: be honest of the last two years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, agreed.
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Speaker 4: Now onto the pitching a little bit. I mean they've
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Speaker 4: had thirty nine different pitchers. We know injuries are a thing.
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Speaker 4: How would you like talk about this pitching staff? Give
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Speaker 4: me something that you said I made that's going to
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Speaker 4: make this Dodger Town feel okay, like where would you
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Speaker 4: put them? Like, what what is your thoughts on all
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Speaker 4: this pitching and how are they going to bode welcome
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Speaker 4: playoff time?
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Speaker 5: Well, something to Andrew Friedman and Baseball operations and bringing
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Speaker 5: goms some gm that they have said throughout this year
17:28
Speaker 5: is that they're gonna have a chance to take their
17:30
Speaker 5: best thirteen man pitching staff into the postseason that they
17:33
Speaker 5: ever had. And the Dodgers have had some really good staffs,
17:37
Speaker 5: but the fact that you now have Yamamoto who's starting
17:40
Speaker 5: tonight against Justin Verland, or you have Tyler Glassnell and
17:43
Speaker 5: Blake Snell healthy, Clayton Kershaw, I don't know how to
17:49
Speaker 5: explain him in year eighteen, just continuing to be a
17:53
Speaker 5: master of run prevention, and and Emmett she and the
17:56
Speaker 5: way he has come on they don't I mean, that's
17:59
Speaker 5: just the starting staff. And I didn't even mention show
18:01
Speaker 5: hey Otani. So I think that there is a lot
18:05
Speaker 5: of confidence, given that those guys are, you know, feeling
18:09
Speaker 5: physically good right now and throwing the ball well, that
18:14
Speaker 5: no matter what series they find themselves in, they're gonna
18:16
Speaker 5: have a shot every single night. Now the bullpen has
18:21
Speaker 5: shown some leaks throughout the year. There have been a
18:25
Speaker 5: lot of dudes back there thrust into a lot of
18:27
Speaker 5: different positions. They have had to deal with some injuries.
18:32
Speaker 5: So I think that right now, if I were to
18:34
Speaker 5: try to guess how fans are feeling, I would I
18:37
Speaker 5: would think that they're most concerned about the back end
18:41
Speaker 5: of the bullpen. But the way the starters look right now,
18:46
Speaker 5: it has bellied the confidence level, and understandably so, because
18:50
Speaker 5: that is I mean, any single one of those dudes
18:53
Speaker 5: can shove a night tonight.
18:56
Speaker 1: So you know.
19:00
Speaker 5: The way I put it when trying when people ask
19:02
Speaker 5: about the Dodgers, I think they will go as their
19:06
Speaker 5: big dogs go. It starts with the triumvirate and at
19:09
Speaker 5: the top of the lineup. It really is not a
19:11
Speaker 5: complicated formula for them to win games. Well, tany Bets
19:15
Speaker 5: and Freeman, those are their big guys, and then they're
19:18
Speaker 5: all Stars, with the alternate being all Stars Will Smith,
19:21
Speaker 5: Max Munci, Ti, Oscar Hernandez and then which glue guy
19:24
Speaker 5: finds a way to put a drop in the bucket
19:26
Speaker 5: to win a ball game that night. Like that's it's
19:29
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you explained who the stars were, because you
20:33
Speaker 1: look up and down the lineup you're like stars Star
20:37
Speaker 1: nine star, and all of a sudden, like Alex Call.
20:39
Speaker 1: It's like, well, Alice Call was pretty good too. But
20:42
Speaker 1: the starting rotation is my question. You kind of hit
20:45
Speaker 1: on it there. Yeah, is Dave Roberts going to change
20:50
Speaker 1: his and the Dodgers approach because of, in my opinion,
20:54
Speaker 1: how good the rotation is right now. These guys are
20:58
Speaker 1: hammering out innings, being there dominant, and when you get
21:02
Speaker 1: to the bullpen it could be one of their more
21:05
Speaker 1: shaky areas, and Doc and the front office who creates
21:09
Speaker 1: the game plan for the postseason have been really resident,
21:13
Speaker 1: have been really like resistant to going to their starter
21:18
Speaker 1: for a sixth inning, for a seventh inning if needed.
21:22
Speaker 1: Are they going to change that approach? Are they going
21:24
Speaker 1: to do more of like a read it on the field?
21:29
Speaker 5: I would think so. I think given what we saw
21:31
Speaker 5: last year with the Dodgers run to the World Series,
21:34
Speaker 5: where they basically had two and a half starting pitchers, right,
21:38
Speaker 5: I mean, things were pretty pretty pretty bleak from the
21:42
Speaker 5: starting pitching standpoint going into October, because you had Jack
21:47
Speaker 5: Flaherty acquired at the deadline and Yoshinobayamawota was coming off
21:54
Speaker 5: an injury, right, you weren't quite sure how much he
21:57
Speaker 5: was gonna be able to give you, And so they
21:58
Speaker 5: lean on their bullpen dogs back there, and they let
22:01
Speaker 5: them do a World Series Championship, and now the chemistry
22:04
Speaker 5: and the calculus has changed here in twenty twenty five
22:07
Speaker 5: because the rotation is nasty. The rotation is healthy as
22:10
Speaker 5: we sit here right now, and the bullpen has a
22:14
Speaker 5: couple more question marks, not in terms of talent, not
22:16
Speaker 5: in terms of talent, but I would say right now
22:19
Speaker 5: just in terms of confidence and execution. I mean, those
22:22
Speaker 5: guys who have the backs of their baseball cards look
22:26
Speaker 5: like that for a reason, for all those guys, but
22:28
Speaker 5: for whatever reason one we're in one or another throughout
22:31
Speaker 5: this year, they they've had their struggles. So I would
22:34
Speaker 5: say the what doc the staff and the front office
22:39
Speaker 5: showed everybody last year is that they're going to do
22:43
Speaker 5: what needs to be done and they're going to lean
22:45
Speaker 5: on the guys who can get them a win. And
22:47
Speaker 5: so if that's pushing the starters a little bit, then
22:51
Speaker 5: I think you're going to see that. But given the
22:54
Speaker 5: experience that this clubhouse, this coaching staff, in this front
22:59
Speaker 5: office has getting into and through a postseason, I think
23:05
Speaker 5: they have shown time and again that they'll be flexible
23:08
Speaker 5: that because and you know, if the guys in the
23:10
Speaker 5: back end aren't getting it done, then then you're gonna
23:13
Speaker 5: have to ride those starting horses. You just have to Gratzy.
23:16
Speaker 5: But it's by hooker, by crook. Can you find a way?
23:19
Speaker 1: Okay, So one more rotation question. What do you think
23:23
Speaker 1: is more likely show Heyo Tani pitching into the sixth
23:27
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or Clayton Kershaw starting starting the game
23:33
Speaker 1: over show Hayo Tani.
23:36
Speaker 5: Wow, that is an excellent situational question. Cratzy, I would say,
23:49
Speaker 5: my internet's cutting out, guys, I'm gonna have to opt out.
23:52
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no.
23:53
Speaker 5: No, because he Because no matter how you answer that question,
23:58
Speaker 5: there is like this feeling of I'm doubting one of
24:03
Speaker 5: the greatest ever do it right? Because it's like, okay,
24:06
Speaker 5: well did the Dodgers have been pretty steadfast and resolute
24:10
Speaker 5: and how they've handled Show as a pitcher this year.
24:14
Speaker 5: They're not going to push them. We've seen you go five,
24:18
Speaker 5: but really it's been that you know, three, four, four
24:21
Speaker 5: and two thirds kind of stretch. And then thinking Curshaw,
24:26
Speaker 5: you want to be like, all right, like back nine
24:29
Speaker 5: of his career, like year eighteen, how much has he
24:32
Speaker 5: got left? And then you look at his numbers and
24:34
Speaker 5: you're like it's still curshed. I mean the fast balls,
24:37
Speaker 5: scratching ninety and he's still finding ways to you know,
24:40
Speaker 5: to go five and two thirds six, shutout in needs
24:42
Speaker 5: and still punching tickets.
24:45
Speaker 1: He's just.
24:47
Speaker 5: There's two. There are two different types of unicorns, those two.
24:50
Speaker 5: So to your question, all right, can I can I
24:53
Speaker 5: like play into this hypothetical and ask a question back
24:55
Speaker 5: to you? Is this Is this a wild card series?
24:58
Speaker 5: Is this the division series? Short series? Is this a
25:01
Speaker 5: seven game series?
25:02
Speaker 1: Let me ask you.
25:03
Speaker 7: This is.
25:04
Speaker 1: Game this is game five, This is Game five? There
25:09
Speaker 1: ya oh okay, seven games? Sorry DS? Game five DS.
25:16
Speaker 5: So this is winner go home?
25:17
Speaker 1: This winner going Yamamoto. Yamamoto clearly isn't gonna be able
25:20
Speaker 1: to come back on five days rest. He hasn't done
25:23
Speaker 1: it ever in the history of Yamamoto baseball. So it
25:26
Speaker 1: has to be one of those two guys.
25:29
Speaker 5: Did Show pitch in the Wildcard series if they were
25:31
Speaker 5: in it? No, no, no, I'll go with I'll go
25:40
Speaker 5: with Show. I'll go with Show going six.
25:43
Speaker 1: That's it.
25:43
Speaker 5: Really I love I love this, I love this is
25:46
Speaker 5: really fun. I'll say show hey going six innings, Because
25:50
Speaker 5: if it's winner go home, you want to go down
25:53
Speaker 5: with your with with your absolute best, your best bullet.
25:56
Speaker 5: And that again, see when I say that, now awake
26:00
Speaker 5: like Kershaw is not your absolute best. No, he's gonna
26:02
Speaker 5: have a statue in Dodger Stadium one day, and he
26:05
Speaker 5: is the you could argue the best to ever do it,
26:08
Speaker 5: preventing runs. But I just think if show Hey's fresh
26:11
Speaker 5: and there is no tomorrow, then you throw him out
26:16
Speaker 5: there and you ride him as long as he'll take you.
26:17
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, So I appreciate you humoring the back
26:20
Speaker 5: and forth there. I enjoyed that.
26:22
Speaker 2: My one thing on this Nelly, Yeah, Tonnie's got better stuff.
26:27
Speaker 3: I mean we can yeah, clear cut about that now, Yeah,
26:30
Speaker 3: Kirk vintage, different story. Kershaw now will admit the same way.
26:35
Speaker 3: He's a different guy, but it's the same results. Stop
26:37
Speaker 3: with the stuff, not it's it's different in the playoffs.
26:40
Speaker 3: I got my best stuff in the playoffs.
26:42
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't don't give the kershel don't give
26:45
Speaker 1: the Kershaw narrative. Oh, the Dodgers are looking to get
26:49
Speaker 1: twenty seven outs. Kershaw has never not given them quality
26:54
Speaker 1: outs up until a certain point. They before because Kershall
26:58
Speaker 1: had this like aura about him, would never take him
27:00
Speaker 1: out and they would let him hang out to dry.
27:02
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that aura and they would
27:05
Speaker 1: take him out. You could get four shutout from Kersh
27:08
Speaker 1: a becice. That's all he's ever done.
27:09
Speaker 5: And you can, I think you can. You can see
27:12
Speaker 5: a piggyback situation in that particular scenario. So because the.
27:16
Speaker 1: Pen, I mean, oh, Tony's not coming out of the pen.
27:20
Speaker 1: He can't do that. I don't.
27:22
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think show
27:24
Speaker 5: comes out of the pen. It's if you're gonna, if
27:26
Speaker 5: you're gonna have anybody piggyback, you would you would probably
27:28
Speaker 5: ask Kirsh to do it, because he has I.
27:31
Speaker 1: Saw him coming out in Game seven and LCS he
27:34
Speaker 1: shut us out. He shut us down in the last
27:37
Speaker 1: inning or two innings he came out of pen. I
27:39
Speaker 1: think even against the National in eighteen he shut us down.
27:43
Speaker 1: And then I think he did it like two years before,
27:46
Speaker 1: a year before.
27:48
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just think, and that's and then then
27:50
Speaker 5: you have a different look right, I don't think going
27:52
Speaker 5: right left. It's it's just your you're being up slowing
27:55
Speaker 5: down kind of thing.
27:56
Speaker 1: I think.
27:56
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know that's that that's the cheat
27:58
Speaker 5: answers like piggyback. But you're asking me to pick one,
28:03
Speaker 5: I'll go with show.
28:05
Speaker 1: All right, good, I appreciate that because we say things
28:07
Speaker 1: with their chest, we don't. Well, yeah, Todd, Todd waffles
28:10
Speaker 1: back and forth, but we just He's like, I don't
28:13
Speaker 1: want to piss off Mets fans or Yankees fans. What
28:16
Speaker 1: he does want to piss off pirates. But anyway, anyway,
28:19
Speaker 1: last one, fun, fun one for you. Joe Davis allows
28:25
Speaker 1: you to use his booths every once in a while.
28:29
Speaker 1: Do you do you ever leave any like notes or
28:33
Speaker 1: like a something funny that he's got to like find,
28:35
Speaker 1: Like today Todd unhooked my mic so that I couldn't
28:39
Speaker 1: say anything and we couldn't find it until the second break.
28:42
Speaker 1: So Todd is jealous of me, and I know Joe
28:44
Speaker 1: is jealous of you because of your smashing good looks.
28:48
Speaker 1: And so do you leave him any do you leave
28:51
Speaker 1: him any any like sneaky sneaky prizes or.
28:56
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, animal, First of all, crassy, I
29:00
Speaker 5: think you need my glasses if you're if you're saying,
29:03
Speaker 5: Joe Davis the face and votes and baseball is jealous
29:06
Speaker 5: of my looks. I cover half of this face because
29:09
Speaker 5: it's already punishable enough. I would my first year twenty three, Uh,
29:17
Speaker 5: there were a couple of times where you know, like
29:19
Speaker 5: I like hopped in to finish a road trip because
29:21
Speaker 5: he was he was off doing fox stuff and he
29:25
Speaker 5: had left notes. But we we have kind of lost that,
29:29
Speaker 5: we have lost that love and feeling a little bit.
29:31
Speaker 5: So I think your question is now turned into inspiration
29:35
Speaker 5: for me that I've got to got to start doing that. Uh,
29:39
Speaker 5: you know even note yeah, be creative and I'll uh,
29:44
Speaker 5: I'll you guys tell me because because Joe's you know, traveled,
29:49
Speaker 5: he's getting ready for football right now. So you guys
29:52
Speaker 5: tell me what you want me to leave. Joe Davis
29:54
Speaker 5: on the next.
29:57
Speaker 1: Loosen one of his wheels on his chair. So when
29:59
Speaker 1: he goes it down, because he's like he's you know,
30:02
Speaker 1: he's got that deep voice, and then he sits out
30:04
Speaker 1: and he's just like this for the first like half
30:06
Speaker 1: an inn, he's like, what the YEA?
30:09
Speaker 5: Honestly, like he like Joe is so dialed, like he
30:12
Speaker 5: would he would notice that, like he he he is
30:15
Speaker 5: so obviously excellent, excellent what he does. But like if
30:20
Speaker 5: we we have like our crew talks like our audio guy,
30:23
Speaker 5: if like the game is a little bit off in
30:26
Speaker 5: his headset, he can he can tell and it like
30:29
Speaker 5: and then he'll ask to fix. Like he is just
30:31
Speaker 5: so dialed in. So I feel like if I if I,
30:34
Speaker 5: like took a wheel off the chair, or if I
30:37
Speaker 5: like just even squeezed the little the the the knob
30:42
Speaker 5: on the chair that, yeah, yeah, the side thing, let's
30:45
Speaker 5: go side thing that goes up and down on the chair,
30:47
Speaker 5: he'd be like, wait a second, something's off here, Like
30:51
Speaker 5: he's he's a he's a broadcast cyborg.
30:54
Speaker 1: I don't.
30:54
Speaker 5: I don't know, so, but I'll try. I'll try and
30:56
Speaker 5: do something to mess with them and then see if
30:57
Speaker 5: I can get somebody to film it and uh, and
31:00
Speaker 5: then we'll see how that frank right plays out. If not,
31:02
Speaker 5: I'll just leave him a love letter.
31:04
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31:09
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31:21
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, oh, maybe you like a certain
31:23
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31:24
Speaker 2: Him an extra one or something like that and say, hey,
31:26
Speaker 2: but try this one out.
31:28
Speaker 1: Let me know. Yeah.
31:29
Speaker 5: Also he's Yeah, first of all, I would love to
31:32
Speaker 5: go off the rails and go early two thousands francs.
31:35
Speaker 5: But secondly, Scott, you you bring up protein bars like
31:38
Speaker 5: I know, I know you have to dial in your
31:40
Speaker 5: your diet. Like Joe is the same thing, Like I don't.
31:43
Speaker 5: I think he just eats air sometimes, like he's just
31:49
Speaker 5: get right right because his body's at temple.
31:52
Speaker 1: I don't know, know, I get it. That's what we
31:55
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31:57
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Speaker 1: Enjoyed it.
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32:22
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