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  Speaker 2: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette. It's Friday,
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  Speaker 1: April twenty fourth. I am Nick Eatman, and the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: got Camdowns. You guys know this, but that is the
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  Speaker 1: story of the Cowboys draft so far. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be the story of the Cowboys draft. It's the story
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  Speaker 1: one of the big stories of the NFL as well.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at what the Cowboys needed going into
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  Speaker 1: this draft. They needed defense, and this whole offseason they
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  Speaker 1: had to have defensive help, and arguably one of the
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  Speaker 1: best defensive players just continued to slide to them all
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  Speaker 1: the way to eleven, and the Cowboys just couldn't wait
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  Speaker 1: any longer. It sounded like they it was chaotic in there,
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  Speaker 1: but but they they did a really nice job of
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  Speaker 1: kind of maneuvering and getting up one spot with Miami. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Miami probably wasn't gonna take Caleb Downs, but that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the point at that point. Somebody could have called and said,
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  Speaker 1: I will, we'll, We'll get this guy. And the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: made sure of that, sending a couple of fifth round picks,
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  Speaker 1: but they turned into fourth rounders with the trade to
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  Speaker 1: get Malakai Lawrence. That that's an interesting pick as well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to is naturally gonna be overlooked because
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  Speaker 1: just the you know, the nature of getting Caleb downs
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  Speaker 1: in here, but still two defensive players in the first
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  Speaker 1: day of the draft, that that should help this team
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  Speaker 1: on the back end, obviously as a as a pass rusher,
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  Speaker 1: And it just seems like Lawrence is a gain that
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  Speaker 1: that continued to dart up the draft boards. I said
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  Speaker 1: this earlier today that on a different show that we
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  Speaker 1: did that if the draft would have been next month,
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  Speaker 1: he might have been the top ten pick the way
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  Speaker 1: he was just skyrocketing up the boards. All Right, we've
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of phone calls here. Darren Woodson is
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  Speaker 1: gonna join us. We're gonna we're gonna hear from from Woody,
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  Speaker 1: which is fitting because that's the only name we keep
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  Speaker 1: hearing in the comparisons about him, especially here in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Did they get the next Darren Woodson? Well, let's just
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  Speaker 1: talk to Darren Woodson. We're gonna we're gonna hear from
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs today. Who's coming in as we speak, flying in,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll hear from him. All right, Let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the phone lines, Chris and Saratoga Springs. Chris. What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Man on? Chris? Start us off.
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  Speaker 3: We got our man, Nick, we got him. Caleb, hands down, baby,
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  Speaker 3: what's up? Oh? Not much here again with my dad
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  Speaker 3: watched the draft last night. Couldn't be more happier with
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  Speaker 3: the outcome of the draft. Exactly what I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: happen happened. We got the corner of safety of the
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  Speaker 3: first pick, edge with the second pick. Now, I'm still
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  Speaker 3: looking for maybe that trade for that Miami Dolphin player,
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  Speaker 3: maybe for a linebacker that would really help me, help us,
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  Speaker 3: I think, and solidify the three main positions that we needed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm super glad we finally got somebody on the cover.
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  Speaker 3: I think I have for of these Star magazines and
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  Speaker 3: every every time I'm like, I want somebody on this cover.
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  Speaker 3: And we finally got somebody on this Star magazine cover.
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  Speaker 3: Beyond happy with it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even know, man, you don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: you think you won on the cover. I bought the
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  Speaker 1: people that do it. Yeah, we've been It has been
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  Speaker 1: since Micah Parsons is the last player that actually was
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  Speaker 1: on the cover of the magazine and it was we
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  Speaker 1: had CD before that. But yeah, it's been been a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, so it has. But yeah, Caleb Downs just
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  Speaker 1: just outstanding. I mean, quarterback of the defense is what
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  Speaker 1: you keep hearing about him, and how he could just
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  Speaker 1: line everybody up. Now, remember he played in front behind
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  Speaker 1: a lot of play. He played behind two players that
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  Speaker 1: went ahead of him in the draft, so but still
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  Speaker 1: you could just he just jumps off the tape on
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  Speaker 1: how dynamic he is.
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  Speaker 3: And you just said it earlier. We haven't had a
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  Speaker 3: safety like this since Darren Woodson. He hasn't been a comparable.
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  Speaker 3: It's him. Look at what Darren Woodson did. He was
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  Speaker 3: all over the field. He would be in the slot,
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  Speaker 3: he'd be in the back, He blitzed from the outside.
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  Speaker 3: Everything that Darren Woodson did, Caleb Downs seems to be
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  Speaker 3: able to hopefully do. And if he can be a
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  Speaker 3: third of the player that Darren Woodson was, I think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to be so satisfied with with this pick.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just you know me, Ohio State. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Downs. I didn't want to pick him an irene
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  Speaker 3: thing because I didn't want to jinx myself. So I
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  Speaker 3: went with Delane. And I'm glad that I didn't say
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Downs was my pick, because I'm sure it probably
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have happen, and I'm glad it did. I think
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  Speaker 3: they said there was like eleven chance we'd get him
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  Speaker 3: at twelve, and so my dad always said, nobody ever
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  Speaker 3: good wins the lottery, so I'd rather be lucky than
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  Speaker 3: good on this day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you got him, and you know the the I
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  Speaker 1: thought the key to the draft, the key to getting
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  Speaker 1: him and Chris, we're gonna keep moving here. I think,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the call. We're gonna get Dren here
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  Speaker 1: on the line. But I thought that the key to
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  Speaker 1: the draft was another Ohio State player, and it was
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  Speaker 1: Carnell Tate. That to me, was the key to getting Downs.
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  Speaker 1: It had to be that way at three and four,
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  Speaker 1: and it was Love at three, but Tate at four
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  Speaker 1: when that started to happen, Or did I miss that right?
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  Speaker 1: It Maybe Tate went five, but those guys went early
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  Speaker 1: and and the offensive guys started getting plucked off the board.
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  Speaker 1: And when that starts to happen, then there's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a run that way. Now it's like Tate's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Now the Saints have got they gotta go get Tyson
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  Speaker 1: for sure. So once once that started to happen, it
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  Speaker 1: pushed Reese back a little bit. It would have been
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  Speaker 1: interesting if if Reese was there at six. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if the Cowboys call Cleveland. But then again, Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: jumped up and got Cleveland. So that was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of crazy there in Kansas City and Cleveland made
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  Speaker 1: a trade there six and nine, but ended up ended
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  Speaker 1: up working. But I thought getting I thought Carnal Tate
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  Speaker 1: going as early as he did kind of helped open
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  Speaker 1: the door for some of the defensive players, such as
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  Speaker 1: Downs to drop. All right, I'm gonna lean on Chris
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  Speaker 1: in the back. Here on William from West Virginia's next.
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  Speaker 3: All right, William?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Man?
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  Speaker 4: Nick?
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  Speaker 5: How are we doing so good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing great? Look as much as much to kill me,
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  Speaker 5: the bang was there. I couldn't criticize the pick. They
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  Speaker 5: had a great night. I mean I can't. I haven't
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  Speaker 5: enjoyed a first round this much. Just two thousand and
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  Speaker 5: five when they got Beware and Fear of the Thing, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean I was just I was just thrilled that
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  Speaker 5: they got both those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Just a great night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. And and you know Downs, It's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that I like about him is that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's safety, but it's just it's kind of what what
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  Speaker 1: the last caller Chris was saying about just does. He
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  Speaker 1: does so much more than that. He is going to
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  Speaker 1: get people lined up, He's going to play in the slot,
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  Speaker 1: He's going to play all over the field. They called
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  Speaker 1: him the multiplier. He's just because he's he's more than
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  Speaker 1: just one player, and he's also lets other people around
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  Speaker 1: him play better as well.
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  Speaker 6: So you get it.
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  Speaker 5: If you get a chance, could you ask Darren Woolson
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  Speaker 5: when he would talk to him about what he if
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  Speaker 5: he remembers Michael Downs watching him play, Because I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 5: Caleb Downs will probably better than Michael Downs. And I
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  Speaker 5: love Michael Downs. But what it's just so so full
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  Speaker 5: circle for me. It's just great to say that A
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  Speaker 5: great knight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well William, uh, do you have any
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  Speaker 1: anything else? We're gonna We're gonna keep it rolling here,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get on the line.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't have anything. I just hope they end
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  Speaker 5: up getting maybe a linebacker or another edge rusher or
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  Speaker 5: receiver the rest of the weekend. But appreciate that. But
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  Speaker 5: you guys, let me through and hope you have a great.
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  Speaker 7: Show, all right.
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  Speaker 1: William William William made that all storyline team and and
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  Speaker 1: he uh, he's now he's he's he's shooting for a
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  Speaker 1: you know, first or second team. I like you calling again,
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  Speaker 1: making a habit out of it. All right, how about this,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get Darren Woodson on the line, with Darren
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  Speaker 1: from from from Dallas on the line. I know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: and I know that if you could, you would, you
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  Speaker 1: would be here. But this is the next best thing.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of the next best thing, I mean, your
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  Speaker 1: name has been mentioned so much here in this press
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  Speaker 1: and the press conference from last night, and the comparisons.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask, I think the greatest safety
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  Speaker 1: in Cowboys history, what you think about the next great
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  Speaker 1: safety of the Cowboys just just got Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, look, I was happy with the pick. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I know we've been talking about this, Nick, you and
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  Speaker 7: I have been talking about this for a long time
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  Speaker 7: that look, I'm looking at this team and the one
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  Speaker 7: major fit that that the piece that's missing has been
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  Speaker 7: on that deeper side of the ball. And that's the
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  Speaker 7: player that that loves to play the game, that's the
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  Speaker 7: student of the game, that can do all the little things,
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  Speaker 7: uh that you that you that you wish for, has
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  Speaker 7: the mental capacity to lead. And I think that's this.
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  Speaker 7: This is I think that's Caleb Downs. Look, and I'm
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  Speaker 7: not gonna sit here and say I watched a ton
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  Speaker 7: of them with a dot. That's not my world. Real
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  Speaker 7: estate is my world. But I've watched enough and I've
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  Speaker 7: heard enough through so many people of saying how specially
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  Speaker 7: how special a player he is. And it's normally coming
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  Speaker 7: from the likes of defensive coordinators or head coaches that
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  Speaker 7: are very well respected people, and and that's that's that's
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  Speaker 7: a good barometer for me to go off of. And
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  Speaker 7: I've watched him play at Ohio State and he's a
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  Speaker 7: phenomenal player. So I like the pick. If you want
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  Speaker 7: to say that much, I really like the pick.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this so I'll share it to the
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  Speaker 1: listeners that I had to do a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a reminder about how sometimes there's a delay and uh.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as the Cowboys made that pick and they
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  Speaker 1: were in the war room, I get on the phone
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  Speaker 1: and I called Darren, said, hey, I got to have
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  Speaker 1: you on the show The Bar and you're like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting here watching the draft, just about to see who
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  Speaker 1: the Boys pick, and I think I spoiled it for you.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they got Caleb Downs and you're like, oh.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, Yeah, yeah, you know what, I kind of knew that.
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  Speaker 7: I was just hoping he was going to be there.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I thought, okay, well, man,
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  Speaker 7: you know these picks to going now on a lot
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  Speaker 7: of Ohio State kids going going off the board, and
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  Speaker 7: I just kept on saying, man, just just be there
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  Speaker 7: for us. And the Giants are the ones who scared me.
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  Speaker 7: Felt the Giants were going to be that team, and
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  Speaker 7: when they passed on them, I just thought there was
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  Speaker 7: an opportunity and if thank god the Cowboys traded up
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  Speaker 7: to eleven to get him. But look, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: don't want to anoint any one of Parcels. Used always
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  Speaker 7: say we shouldn't anoint the next guy until he gets
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  Speaker 7: to the door. And we see him play. But I'm excited, man,
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  Speaker 7: I really am. And there and there's reasons why. And
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  Speaker 7: one of the reasons is, you know, we always talk
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  Speaker 7: about you know, athletes today and who's coming in the door,
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  Speaker 7: and they're a transitional player. And those guys that are
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  Speaker 7: those transitional players that can play in any decade, the
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  Speaker 7: guys who loved the game, like just truly love the game,
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  Speaker 7: and our students of the game and and are you know,
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  Speaker 7: can do so much as far as leadership concerned. Hell
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  Speaker 7: has to battle that I saw last year on this
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  Speaker 7: defense in the last couple of years, is them just
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  Speaker 7: getting lined up, Yeah, just lined up properly like that
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  Speaker 7: has been a challenge for this defense. And I think
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  Speaker 7: it speaks volumes when you say, okay, I want to
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  Speaker 7: fix that problem. And that's the quarterback of the defense.
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  Speaker 7: Who's your quarterback of the defense? Okay, here he is.
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  Speaker 7: He's a guy who likes your studies, he loves the game.
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  Speaker 7: He's going to show up every day. Who's going to
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  Speaker 7: be in there in the off season program. Who's going
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  Speaker 7: to be an extension of the head coach or the
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  Speaker 7: defensive coordinator when he's out on the field. That's the
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  Speaker 7: guy that we need.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 7: Am I accepting him to be likes out and the
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  Speaker 7: greatest tackler or the best cover guy or the best
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  Speaker 7: interceptor takeaway of the balls. I'm not expecting that, But
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  Speaker 7: I am expecting the little things, Like the little things
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  Speaker 7: mean so much. And that's that guy that studies does
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  Speaker 7: all those little things. He leaves, he jumps on guys'
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  Speaker 7: asses when they don't do the right thing. He'll take
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  Speaker 7: you to be accountable to himself by that's the guy
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  Speaker 7: they need for that defense.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you said that the little thing because
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  Speaker 1: I always you know, I think I've learned this from you,
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  Speaker 1: so I steal this all the time, and I just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned it. How how you you you lose and win
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  Speaker 1: games on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday during the week, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when the little things are And I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure you're the one that kind of taught me that about.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the difference between winning and losing is not
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  Speaker 1: just the big plays made on Sunday, but but how
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  Speaker 1: you prepare during the week. Well, let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: this real quick about versatility, because your name was mentioned
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  Speaker 1: a lot in the press conference and Nobody likes to
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  Speaker 1: compare anybody. It's not really fair to kle downs to
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  Speaker 1: compare them as the next Darren Woodson and all that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's because you played safety, you could
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  Speaker 1: play free, you could play strong, you could play linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: you could play slot corner, you could do everything, and
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  Speaker 1: not to mention special teams, and this guy can do
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  Speaker 1: that as well. When you are a player that can
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  Speaker 1: do multiple things, how do you how do you get
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  Speaker 1: your body in a spot where I need to be strong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take on these blocks. I need
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  Speaker 1: to be fast enough to cover these guys. How do
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  Speaker 1: you do that? How do you prepare to be that
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  Speaker 1: kind of player?
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  Speaker 7: Well, it's just you know what, probably what he's been
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  Speaker 7: doing all along, and that's just doing the little things
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  Speaker 7: and that you know, not only that, but it's probably
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  Speaker 7: gonna be passed and little do a little special teams
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  Speaker 7: work as well. Like so it's it's the mental part
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  Speaker 7: of the game. Nick, And I can remember playing. You know,
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  Speaker 7: someone gave me a stat at one point and it
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  Speaker 7: was like from ninety three to two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 7: I had more snacks than anyone uh on the on
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  Speaker 7: the Cowboys team. And that's a long time. That for
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  Speaker 7: ten year period of play more snacks than anybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: but it's the mental part of the game, of the
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  Speaker 7: preparation of knowing what's going to be tasked of you.
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  Speaker 7: Like I knew when I went into games, Okay, I
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  Speaker 7: got Steve Smithon's slot will seek, right, so I knew
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  Speaker 7: mentally I had to get up for that, that that challenge,
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  Speaker 7: or that that one on one matchup, or you got
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  Speaker 7: a Jerry Rice or whomever. But then you might have
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  Speaker 7: a challenge of and you're you're in the box this
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  Speaker 7: week and you've got to put your big boy pant
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  Speaker 7: pass on because they're going to run the ball at
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  Speaker 7: you and you've got to feel that the backside, see gap.
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  Speaker 7: It's just a mental charge, man. I mean physically, you've
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  Speaker 7: done all the work in the off season. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: that's just it. You've done all that work in off season.
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  Speaker 7: It's not so much the physical part of it. It's
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  Speaker 7: the mental aspect of knowing what your challenge is, what's
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  Speaker 7: expected of you, what your rollers on this this game,
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  Speaker 7: on the team for this week, what your challenges are,
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  Speaker 7: and getting yourself mentally ready for that challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Darren, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you
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  Speaker 1: this as well about you know, your name getting mentioned
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  Speaker 1: and you know, people comparing him to you. What is
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  Speaker 1: what do you take out of out of that?
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  Speaker 8: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it one of those things of like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: honored that people are talking about me in that way,
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  Speaker 1: or is it like, hey, he needs to slow down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, this guy needs needs to get in
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  Speaker 1: the building first before you know, you start comparing to
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is it kind of somewhere in between? Or
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  Speaker 1: how do you take it when people say, hey, he
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  Speaker 1: could be the next Woodson?
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm honored, man, Honestly, I really am. I'm honored
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  Speaker 7: by that because it just tells you it shows the
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  Speaker 7: value that I brought to the team back in those
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  Speaker 7: days and we want to reach super Bowl championships and look,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I was probably before my time as far
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  Speaker 7: as the versatility of running, being able to cover the
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  Speaker 7: slot and see if they come down and make tackles
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  Speaker 7: and bund down on special team to play line by
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, I was probably before my time. I think
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: I would be in today's world, I'd be value that
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: much more because of the versatility Back then, it wasn't
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: as valued. The position wasn't as valued as it is today.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: But man, I'm you know, I'm a static when I
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: see guys come in the league that can do multiple things,
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: like the days of a guy sitting in the in
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: the secondary and just being a big hitter those days
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: at I love to see that war as John Lynch day,
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: That's not how the game is played in this in
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: this generation. You have to cover, you have to be versatile,
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: you have to do you know, so many things that
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: are out there. And I think I paid paid that
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: way early on in the nineties and we were winning
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: championships because I was able to do some of those things.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: I didn't have to come off the field, we didn't
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: have to bring it in the third corner. I can
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: stay on the field and we can run our normal
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: sets and disguise and do so many things out of
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: that that was That's the luxury you had at that position.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: And I just enjoy watching these young guys come in
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: that can do those things, that have those top of capabilities.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I love that you're saying. My favorite part of that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: answer is that you're saying it because we all know
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that that's the truth. These hall of Fame. Voters need
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to need to hear that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: A little bit more.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I know, I know you're not comfortable doing that,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're not You're in the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: real estate world. You're not breaking your arms packing your
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: stuff on the back. I know that. But somebody's got
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to say it, and yeah, it'll it'll definitely happen for sure.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And you know, we we we know, we know you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you're a future Hall of Fame. There's no doubt about it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Just waiting for everybody to open their eyes on it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But Darren, I'll ask you one more quick question. I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: know how busy you are, but the rest of this draft,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, getting a pass rusher there, Malachi Lawrence and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the in the first round seems like he's he's got
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of potential. What what would you think this
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: team needs in the next few rounds or so, they
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: don't have a second, but but a third and a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: few fourths and the fifth. What would you think the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do?
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: No, I still think they have a lot of holes
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: on the decent side of the ball that they need
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: to fill with young talents. And and that's just my opinion. Look,
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: I am a firm believer, though, Nick, I'm kind of
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: going back and forth here, but I am a firm believer,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: and you take the best player that the Bible. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: am a firm believer in that. But I will say this,
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: there are so many that they need to fill. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: it's not just filling the holes with talent. It filling
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: the holes with guys that have this mentality, like a
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: certain mentality of I want to be a Jim Rack
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: And I'm going to go back, and I'm gonna go
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: back for years, Nick. When I came into the league
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: of my first year in nineteen ninety two, there was
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: Robert Jones was the first or I'm sorry, Kevin Smith
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: was the first pick. I think he was at seventeen.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: Robert Jones was the second pick, and he was in
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: the twenties right, And then it was Jimmy Smith, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: then it was myself. And we drafted a number of
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: other defensive backs along that line, So Kevin Smith, myself,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Clayton Holmes, Greg Briggs, there were another players they needed
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: to fill some roles, and Jimmy filled those roles. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: those guys weren't just good football players. Those guys were
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: guys who were jim Racks. Like they had to kick
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: us out of the building late at night because we
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: would stay there and racketball after practice, watch extra film,
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: play King pok. We did everything with each other. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: that's the kind of player that you want, you know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: I watched the whole Super Bowl leading up to the
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl, and I watched the get the Seattle coaches
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: talk about their defensive players. They were jim rats. You
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: probably don't know all of them, but they showed up.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: They carried themselves differently, and that's what I want them
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: to fill this up, you know, how to be the
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: most talented guy. Don't care for them to find the
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: most talented guy. I want them to find the guy
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: that loves to play this game. I think that was
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: a great start with tayleb Down.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: But but let me ask you this, when you go
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: back to that that that time, those gym rats, who
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was the best player on the team that was the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: gym rat. Also, because it seems like somebody's there and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you're like, well he's there, I'm gonna be there, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: if he's there, I'm there. Who who was kind of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: setting the tone? I don't know if Michael was there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: I don't think Michael, no, no, no, no. Let me
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: tell you ERB was set in the tone because we
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: watched him stay like he was a seven year veteran
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: at the time. Six seven year veteran at the time.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: I used to watch this guy sit there and work
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: out while we were playing and hanging out. He was
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: working out. He was there hanging out with us half
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: the time. So he was the guy that always I
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: used to always look up. Darryl Johnston was another. He
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: used to always look up to, even a guy who's
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: been in the league five or six years who still
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: showed up early, stayed late, like those are the guys
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: we were following through that process. But look, I used
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: to watch, you know, Kevin Smith and I came in
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: the same year. Kevin Smith probably taught me in my
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: first year how to cover man the man better than
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: more than anyone that I knew, Like he taught he
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: was my roommate. He taught me more about the game
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: that it was because we stayed after and did the
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: little things, and we were those gym rats. We just
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: kept you know, iron sharp as iron man. And I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: telling you I got better and better because of those relationships.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that the Cowboys got got better because
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: they got a player that have one's talking about is
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: comparing him to you and and that's like you said,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you're you're honored uh by that, and we're honored to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: have you always.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I know it's not the same with you not here
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: in the seat, but I know we'll get you back here,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: uh pretty soon. So thank you so much for calling, Darren.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it all you too, have a good have
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a good one, good weekend all that. That's the great
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Darren Woodson. It feels weird to put that as a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: as a caller.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: There.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I wrote it down the sheet there there what's the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's so good to hear from him, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: great insight there about about what Caleb downs uh can
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: bring and what he wants him to bring. And it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's not just the interceptions and and it's the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the big plays and all that which you see that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: on the tape. It's the it's he said what he
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: say little things about four times. Those are the kind
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of things that that that Carrie, you know, make you
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a pretty good player to really good, and then the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: really good players can get to elite and maybe Caleb
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Downs can can get that way. Let's go to our
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: next caller. Follow this up, Robbie and Cocoa beach. Robbie,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: There's no way to follow that up, my friend. That
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: is the world class Daronson, one of the one of,
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: if not the best cowboy of all time.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And he's he's up there certainly in in my book.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Robbie, what do you think? What do you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: think about the draft? What'd you think?
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: I was really happy with the draft obviously.
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: I think.
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: Malchi Lawrence is a great text. Thank goodness you got him,
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: I mean, and Caleb Downs might be right too. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: so I just ramble for a minute about what you'll
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: try to make a quick though. Okay, So I remember
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: Roy Williams, the safety he came in the league, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: what he was there and what he made him so
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: much better.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: He was a beast.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: Roy Williams was amazing for the couple of years of
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: what he was there and then what he left and
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: really kind of went really quickly downhill. And I don't
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: want to compare Caleb Downs to Darren Woodson. They're just
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: I mean, maybe they do some things similar, but they're
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: not the same person. And miss Woodson, Darren, you were
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: the man. But if Caleb's downs can do that for
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: other players on the team like what he did it
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: for Roy and a lot of other players, and our
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: defense will be much much better. And that's all I
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: got nicked.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: All right, All right, Robbie appreciate that. I I don't.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I don't agree fully with that with that about Roy
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: quickly went downhill and made five Pro Bowls, and he
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: played one year with Woodson, So I thought, you're totally
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: right about Woodson helping him in that that first year.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But I remember Darren was was praising Roy. I take
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that back that they played two years together, two thousand
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and two, two thousand and three, So sorry, they did
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: play two years together. But after that and Roy made
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: what one Pro and then he made four more afterwards.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So you know, to me, Roy's downfall, and I think
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he should be mentioned as a great safety. You know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Roy Williams to me, got caught up in the game
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: changing right then, and safety became not just the position,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: actual safety of the players became even more of a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: priority than that it had been. And his tackle is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: horse collar tackle and all that. You could think Roy
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for doing that, but roy you know, he was just
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he he said it. We did a documentary with him
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and we called it the Late Hit, and he was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: fine with that. And it wasn't a dirty you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: meaning about like, oh, your dirty player. It was if
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Roy Williams had played in the seventies, he'd be a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, I believe that, or eighties, seventies or
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: eighties the type of player I mean, because he was
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Steve Atwater, that's Ronnie Lott, That's what Roy Williams was.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: But at that time when the game was changing a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: bit bit more of a passing league, a lot more
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: attention for safety of the players. You know, Royce said
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: it to us, he said, I would if I was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: playing today, I'd be playing for free because he would
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: be fined all the time. And said it wouldn't really change.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But I think he gets a bad rap because of
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you know, one or two games where he was you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he wasn't a cover safety. He really was more of
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a box linebacker that could play all that dynamic player.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So and what's it helped him with that for sure?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Casey Joe in Kansas City. Casey,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Good morning?
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: Nick, how are you doing today?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: Hey, thanks for making me your on your second team.
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: I appreciate it, buddy.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure, man, I really do. Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: Hey, I was really happy with the picks last night.
• 26:52
  Speaker 12: I'm glad we got the defense in early and I
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: can't believe we got downs. It's amazing. I really didn't
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: think that was gonna happen. Was wanting sunny styles, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: when he went, I was like, oh man, we got
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: to get downs. I was like, please, you know, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: then I'm glad we got him. But hey, uh, with
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: one of the picks coming up, I hope they focused
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: next on linebacker.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: And then after that, would you be do you think
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: Mingo will cover the wide wide receiver or do we
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: need do you think do you think we need to
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: draft one?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Uh draft another receiver? Or you talk about Mingo?
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: Will he be able to step up and take that
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: spot where you know, since we lost the other one
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: to Miami?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tolbert, Yeah, you know, let's just see how how
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the how the weekend goes there. I mean, if they're
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: third round tonight, fourth round, you know tomorrow there there
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: could be some receivers there that are that are drafted.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: You know, there there's a couple that that they've got,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like on on their board that they're I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: sure that they would really like So, you know, Mingo,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're counting, you're not. You're not
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: counting on him when it comes to the draft of like, well,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we don't have to do anything because we have him.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: He's he's here and they did resign him and he'll compete.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, like he's a young player too that still
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: needs more reps and and consistency and all that. He
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: might be a guy that goes to camp and surprises
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: people because you know, the light bulb just comes on.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a while, you know, it just it
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: just does. And doesn't matter if you're drafted in the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: second round or whatever. It just takes a little bit.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody thought Miles Austin was gonna be what he was.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It took him three years to get there, but he
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: got there, you know, and so a little different situation.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But still you never know when when you're gonna kind
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of get that light bulb to turn on.
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: Ah, here you go, Well, hey, that's all I have for today,
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: and we'll talk to you later have a wonderful day.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: All I do appreciate that. Let's let's go, Let's take
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  Speaker 1: Dr Up.
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: Good morning, I'm ecstatically happy. Yeah, I believe they got downs.
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: I watching the draft, well, I had wanted the Cowboys
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: to trade up to nine to six to three, whatever
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: they had to do to get Sunny Styles or Taylor downs,
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: and they didn't have to trade up except one spot.
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: And I saw exactly why they did it, because they've
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: been jumped before. I think the Bills jumped them, the
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: Eagles jumped them, and they got a guy that's going
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: to be a star in the league for a long
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: time to come. And you can't say enough about watching
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: the guy play. I'm an Alabama fan, watching him play at Alabama,
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: watching him play at Ohio State, guys just a study.
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: So that's a great pick. And then Malachi Lawrence. People
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: don't know a lot about him, but having a guy
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: named Lawrence out there on the edge kind of feels familiar.
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: But if in Apolon Sports pre draft magazine, he was
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: a fourteenth ranked defensive end and he was a third rounder.
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: But if you looked on their website yesterday, he was
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: the third rank edge behind Bain and Reefs are recent
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: Bain in that order, So that tells you how fast
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: this guy's rise. And people don't know a lot about him,
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: but I think he's that kind of guy that they're
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: looking for, and we taught it's been talked about on
• 32:20
  Speaker 11: this show. They're looking for a certain kind of guy,
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: and I think he's one of them. And watching his
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: film of how he chases down running backs that are
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: trying to get out and you know, bounce it out
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: to the edge. He's good against the run. See, he's
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: going to be a great player. I just want to
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: see them keep adding players, just keep adding football players.
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: I think are gonna be a lot better on defense
• 32:43
  Speaker 11: than we were yesterday afternoon. So that's a great thing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: And that's all I really got. Accept I what do
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: you think about him trading a couple of those draft
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: picks for linebackers, say a Marine mammal from Florida, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: just getting that line backer out of the way.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And that's all.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I got.
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: A great show. I'm grad to be on it. Have
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: a great day and go cowboy.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, j R. I appreciate that. Uh
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it is. It is a great day. And there's a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: reminded by that. A lot of tours going through the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: building today. Uh that's kind of that's not unusual for
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: any day, but but here on on uh draft weekend
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and on the day two of the draft, and there's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a buzz around here and and it is mostly you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: because of Caleb Downs. I mean, it's one of those things.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: That's what I wrote last night. It's a good draft.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's hard, it's a good draft, and it's not gonna
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: be anything different. I mean, you you you can't change it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You can't change anything that happened. It's just it's just
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: bonus at this point because you got Caleb Downs and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and you you didn't give up anything. You you gave
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: up two fits, but you you turned it into two fourths.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So you know, anybody would have gone from from twelve
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: instead of twelve and twenty They had eleven and twenty
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: three and they were trying to go to twenty eight.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It just didn't. It didn't really work out. But that's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that's how special of a player that he is. Is
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that even the mile of Ky Lawrence, if the Cowboys
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: hadn't gotten down, so let's say they had to just
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: sit there and pick, and then they ended up with
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: with Lawrence, I think people would would would feel differently
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: about this draft and they'd be like, well, you kind
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of reached here or whatever. It Lawrence is just one
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of those guys where I think he's not on the radar.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, an interesting thing that I don't know
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: if it's getting talked about a lot. The Cowboys have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: an assistant coach, Dmitri Brimm. He's an assistant d line coach.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: In his first year. He coached at UCF. Last year.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He coached you know, Lawrence last year, and and there
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was some medical concerns about shoulder injuries with with Lawrence,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: He's had surgery to clean up both of the shoulders,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of a setback last year, played
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: through it all, played with the harness and so you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: his position coach is in the war room. And and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: they even went to him and to ask him, you
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: know what he thought. It was kind of you know
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: there at the end of what are we doing? Linebacker
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: was in play pass rusher, but a young, developing pass rusher,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, is more important than anything else, especially when
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you think about the pick. It was Green Bay's pick.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: That was the pick that you traded, you know, Micah
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Parsons and and and I don't think you closed the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: book on this Michael Parsons straight just yet, because there's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: two fourth rounders and that's still part of it. So
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you haven't closed it just yet, but but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, you wanted to get a
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: guy that could develop and I think certainly can't. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: he's got a familiar face here and coach brim there.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's go trick d in Bridge City, Texas.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, what's that man? Hey?
• 36:11
  Speaker 15: I just want to say shout out to your podcast here,
• 36:15
  Speaker 15: because not everybody can get Darren Woodson on the phone.
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: That was awesome and hearing him, hearing him talk, it
• 36:22
  Speaker 15: sounds like he could be a GM. You can just
• 36:23
  Speaker 15: tell he's a sharp guy and he knows what he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 15: talking about.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and that's a huge part of this pick.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: It's you have to be a smart guy. It's not
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: just about the talent and the traits and all that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: You've got to be smart if you're going to play
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: different positions and different you know, line up and get
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: everyone lined up. I mean, think about it it as
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: as a do you have kids, Chuck? Yeah, three okay,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: three kids?
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Perfect?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: If you have three kids, you've got to know their schedule,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you got to know what they're doing. You got to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: get them lined up right. And so that that's the thing.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Not only do your job, you gotta line imagine that
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: as as a football player, you have to know your
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: position and that guy and that guy and that guy
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and know all their positions, and so you know, you
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: get everybody lined up at home, Chuck d I bet
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 37:15
  Speaker 15: I try to. I think my wife lines me up
• 37:18
  Speaker 15: more than anything.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, well said, well said, and true. Never met her,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and I know it's true. And I also applaud you
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: for saying it. So what's up?
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: So what else you go?
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I got?
• 37:32
  Speaker 15: I want to throw more darts at this thing. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 15: I'm hoping these the third and fourth round picks will
• 37:38
  Speaker 15: be some linebackers. I like Anthony Hill from Texas. He
• 37:40
  Speaker 15: probably be gone, but I'd just like to see him
• 37:43
  Speaker 15: draft a couple of linebackers and try to hit one
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: one of them.
• 37:46
  Speaker 16: Yeah, all I got.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, Chuck. I appreciate it. Yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I mean linebacker. You know, I think it's a position
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: where you you can try to address it in and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: let's say free agency. I mean there's some guys out there,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you know. I think one of those three fourth round
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: picks is going to get traded to a team for
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a linebacker. That's what That's what I think. But you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you don't draft one also, you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: because you don't have a ton of numbers there right
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: now at that position. So but it's it's really clear
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: to me though that the focus hasn't necessarily been If
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it was, if they really really really wanted the linebackers,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: they would have signed one overpaid for and whatever. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: think their their focus was to get you know, even
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: better upfront, bigger, you know. I mean, they have Quinnon
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and Kenny Clark, but they got Obanya and Bullard behind it,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: those four right there, one to four. I don't know
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: everyone's depth chart, but I have a hard time thinking
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: there's anybody with better four better defensive tackles in the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: league than those four. There's no way, there's no way
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that they have that anyone, especially from an experience standpoint.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And so when you get that up front and then
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you get the back end, let me think about it
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of Jalen Thompson, PJ. Locke, and now Caleb Downs. Maybe
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: not in that order, but that's the order that they
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: got them. You got the back end, get the guys
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: up front. I'm not saying I could play linebacker. What
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying is is I think that the priorities
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: are what they are. Yes, they want to get good linebackers,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but they wanted to shore up front in the back
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: end there as well. Dylan, Northport, Florida, you got some
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: things to say. What's up?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: What's up man?
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: How you doing?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm good? Did y'all do a spaces? Last night?
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: I was on a Buddy's live YouTube thing and it
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: was streaming on Twitter and stuff. We got our live
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: reactions on there. I posted the clip this morning of it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: It was pretty funny. I was very, very angry when
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: I saw there was a trade at Miami because I
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: sat for weeks that Downs was there at eleven. Someone's
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: going to jump you for them. And when I saw
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: the trade that I was, I was mad. And then
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden it was the Cowboys, and I
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: was like, oh, thank you, thank you so much. It's
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: so what a smart move by them to give up
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: basically nothing and then recoup the two fours from the
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: Eagles to make up for it. I mean, masterful job
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: in the first round by them.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It really, it really was. And and the way Miami,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Miami was true. I think what happened was
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: is at first Miami had no interest in those two fives,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: but because they thought they could get a better deal.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: And then as it as it went on, it was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: very apparent, and it became it became more apparent to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys that they weren't taking that they weren't going
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to take Kale downs or they would have taken. So yeah,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: so now you're fighting another team from jumping and all that,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and and they never did, but it was it was
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: just important to go and do that. And they knew,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: they knew at twenty that that that was the beauty
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: of it. See, this isn't a Micah Parsons pick. Obviously
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys earned that pick, but the fact that you
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: have twenty, they knew that they were going to recoup
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: whatever they're paying to mind, they're going to move twenty
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and move back and get more for that. And they
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: did so.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: And you know what helps too, is not getting jumped
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: at twelve slash eleven. There, it's the eight minute rounds,
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: it's the shorter rounds. The thing flew by and having
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: less time now to do those things and to navigate. Yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: that played a part.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: In this thing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: But I wanted to talk about something you mentioned just
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: before about the tackles. You're one hundred percent right, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: the one thing I mean, I think we know we
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: have a good understanding of what this defense will look like.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: But specifically they talked about gap and a half upfront,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: which just means they're trying to muddy everything up in
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: the middle and bounce things to the outside. So you
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: need fast safeties who can cover ground, and you need
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: safeties that can cover, you know, in the passing game
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: and can hit. And all the guys they brought in
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: they can do all that. They've got the star role,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: which that guy's going to be all over the field,
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: and now at linebacker because they've got such big boys
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: up and it's going to be all kind of muddied up.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're looking for big bruiser type linebackers.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: I think they're looking for kind of those hybrid guys,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: like a Kyle Lewis type, right. I would expect him
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: to be a name that you could see go in
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: the third round to the Cowboys or what's his name,
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: elans Or I think his name is.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: Guys like that, smaller guys who are super smart speedy,
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: you can cover ground. I think you'll see maybe some
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: of those guys. I wouldn't be shocked, honestly if the
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Cowboys a two out of the three picks went linebacker
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: between the third and the two early fourths, maybe two
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: linebackers in the corner or something like that. So that's
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: what I'm looking forward. Maybe a package to trade up
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: for a linebacker. Who knows, but I think they'll take
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: a linebacker today if I had to guess.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Dylan, well, I appreciate that. Thanks for
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: adjusting to the time and calling in, and we'll keep it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: We'll keep it rolling. Now, I'll say this. I don't
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: think fans are going to want to hear this. Dylan
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: probably didn't want to hear this either. But you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: players in one scheme can be one thing, obviously, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: then you put them in a different scheme. We've seen it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It was that Zach Bond from the Eagles. I mean,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: just this completely different player, different scheme. I mean, it happens.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they don't need linebackers, but to
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: that point that Dylan just made, and I was making
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: it too, about about the guys up front and clogging
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: up the middle and eating up the space, and then
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: on the back end showing that up now you need
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: these guys in the middle. They should be free. They
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be getting a lot of guards and getting to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that next level to block them. They should be able
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to run to the ball, saying that let's let's not
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: overlook what is here. I know that you don't think
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: there's a lot here, but overshown Chamar James, whoever they
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: bring in at this point, those guys are gonna compete.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna compete. I'd like to see what
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Shamar James looks like in year two in a scheme
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: like this where he can kind of run a little
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: bit more to the football, uh and and attack. I mean,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: like he we've seen some flashes of it. So and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure Marys Leafel doesn't need
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to be playing in the middle. I mean, I know
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: they've moved him to edge, but I still think that
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: he could be pretty good in in the middle of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the defense. Like this smart guy plays downhill. And I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: know they're gonna I don't even know if it's called
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: an experiment. I mean I think that they they they've
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: moved him, but I just wouldn't be surprised if we
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: don't see Mary Cleefell back in the middle. I'm not
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: saying don't go trade for a linebacker. I'm not saying
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: don't draft. I'm not saying that they shouldn't do both.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying at this point, I'm not overlooking
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: what a Overshown's never been healthy at this time of year.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: He's never been a guy that's gonna sit there in
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the offseason and line people up in that he needs
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a full offseason in this defense, he could be special.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Uh that they believe that, and I think Shamar James
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: should not be forgotten about either. But again, I think
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I think they do need more as many people as
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: they can at that position. All right, Chris, you have
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: another caller on the line, Lester?
• 45:13
  Speaker 14: Is it?
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 17: Lester?
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Hey Man? We had a great night.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I was a little concerned about the number eleven, but
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: then it heard that there was us going up on
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: the eleven.
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: And then we got downs.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, man, quarterback of the defense, that's
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: what we need. Someone like that who can line us up,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: call of plays. And I understand that he probably won't
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: be doing all of that first year. I'm sure he'd
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: be doing some of it, and then maybe Bright the
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: end of the year be doing it all. But I
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: love it because that's what you need to be able
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: to line people up. Just to make a comment on
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: the last caller, Yes, scheme does matter and fit because
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: if you have a sacred this is like I said,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I played corner. If you have a press corner and
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: you put them in the zone, they did me like that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I was very good press corner and put me in
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: the zone. I still was okay, But scheme does matter.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I mean press man for me just three games, one
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: catch maybe for whoever I was with put me in
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the zone. You got about five catches, same same amount
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: of time. But anyway, let's get back to last night.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Hey man, I think I think we still need a linebacker.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: Or two.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: And I heard what you said about over shown and James,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: but I still think we need at least one or
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: two more. And just this, in my opinion, let's go
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: and and make a phone call and maybe try to
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: get another pick. Like I said, let's give up some
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: from next year, or trade a player, or however you
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: do it. I'm not sure how all that works, but
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: let's get a second round pick today, man or at
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: least the top of the third. I know we got
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: picked up some force last night, which I commend that.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: One more thing, if we're looking for lineman again, I
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: suggest that we look at the Iowa lineman. So they
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: run the ball all the time, so they must be
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: pretty good. Overall, I think we had a great night.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Go col All right, good stuff, Lester. I agree with that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I agree with the linebacker, you know, adding a linebacker
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and we'll see about the lineman if one fits. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you know, they may take an offensive tackle at some point.
• 47:39
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  Speaker 8: Zach say, what's up Nick and Frisco?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 8: I'm good, buddy, How are you good?
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  Speaker 1: Did I find a time slot that works for you?
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  Speaker 8: You did, And I'm glad that you found something for
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  Speaker 8: me because I've missed calling in shout out to all
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  Speaker 8: the storyliners, shout out to the teams. I appreciate my
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  Speaker 8: selection to the team this year. So it's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: It felt like a commencement ceremony. I got a little emotional,
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: it was. It was beautiful just hearing all the names
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: and places and remembering calls. So I need to catch
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  Speaker 8: up from that. But we're talking about the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: Ain't nothing getting me down. I read the whole book
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: of Malachi today. It's electric, dude. That's I mean, that's
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: as much fun as I've had since CD at seventeen.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: It's probably been shared on the show already, just like
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: you're just waiting, like is this really happening? Is it's
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: really happening. Yeah, we weren't looking for CD. We've been
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: looking at Caleb Downs this whole draft process and the
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: fact that you know, we we flip picks and got
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: him and then we're savvy on the back end at
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: twenty and got some fourths. I mean, it was Chef's kiss.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: It was. It was awesome.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, Sorry, you're good. I'm sorry. Are you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: are you what are you doing?
• 50:24
  Speaker 15: Chris?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Are you adding a call?
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: No?
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I said, I should Oh I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: this is you got like a twins, Zach. Josh in Chicago,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Zach in Atlanta. I don't know why you guys have
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: never probably met, but I always do. And Chris Chris
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: said he's going to merge the call, so I thought
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you we were adding another call over.
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: Hey, Hey, if we can do a three way call,
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: that'd be crazy. Shout out to Josh. But uh man,
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: I will, I'll jump off. But I just want to say,
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: enjoy the draft everybody. I mean, it's just cherry on
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: top after this. I hope we get a linebacker. And
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: I know it's a long weekend for you guys. Shout
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: out to you, Nick and Chris and everybody involved.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, Zach, I'll say this. I know that your schedule
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: has changed a little bit. You won't be able to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: call as much. I'm so glad you were able to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: call here. But you know, I don't forget the people
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of helped pave the way early on on
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: our show to kind of keep us going and calling
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a lot, bring a lot of enthusiasm. You certainly fit
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the bill in all those categories, so I appreciate that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: Hey, thanks, and I got one last thing because we
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: got a franchise tag on George Pickens.
• 51:28
  Speaker 16: Is he trading I don't know, but keep Jeep.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: That is the movement.
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: He makes us better. I'll see all later.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: All right, fifty two minutes into the show, and we
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: mentioned George Pickens. A little surprised by that, but it
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: is draft and thank you Caleb Downs for doing that.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: George is going to sign the franchise tag, which means, yes,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys could trade him, but they made it really
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: clear that they don't plan on doing that at all.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: They have no intention of trading him him, and especially now,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: if you're a franchise, you're supposed to you're supposed to
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: get at least what to first. You don't have to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: get to first. But that's that's the idea was. So
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: you're going to trade him now and get next year's first,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: like I mean, because we you're not just gonna do
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: it for for a second. So I don't I don't
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys will will trade him. I think
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that they want to keep him. They wanted him to
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: play on the tag, but they don't want to pay
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: what what I think is his agent is asking for.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: But they want him to play on the tag. They
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: want to see what you know, being a free agent
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: pretty much is going to be like again for him,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: and so that's that's what I think is gonna happen.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Josh in Chicago. Josh, what's up?
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: Hey?
• 52:46
  Speaker 16: I heard I just missed Zach in Atlanta.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you guys. I mean you've never seen
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: you all in the same place. I mean, it's something
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: to it. No, what's that bet?
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: Not too much?
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: Man?
• 52:57
  Speaker 16: You know, I'm happy, you know, I want to downs.
• 52:58
  Speaker 16: I'm glad that they didn't go with Falk at twenty.
• 53:01
  Speaker 16: I thought that that was going to be the pick.
• 53:02
  Speaker 16: But picking up two fourth round picks, I think is smart.
• 53:05
  Speaker 16: Get some flexibility, right, like you were saying, I think
• 53:08
  Speaker 16: they could try to add a veteran linebacker with the trade.
• 53:11
  Speaker 16: But even taking that one of those sports or two
• 53:13
  Speaker 16: of those sports and trying to move into the second
• 53:15
  Speaker 16: and get one of these top tier type of linebackers
• 53:17
  Speaker 16: that are still available. Because there's a lot of talent
• 53:19
  Speaker 16: still on the board, you know, they can try to
• 53:21
  Speaker 16: get out into the second again. I'm happy with what
• 53:23
  Speaker 16: they're doing. Six nighting Man it's it's drafts Eason.
• 53:26
  Speaker 17: Let's go.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, all right. I like how I like where
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: your heads at. Let's keep it wronging. We may go
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: one more caller here, Sebastian and Savannah Georgia. Sebastian, what's up.
• 53:38
  Speaker 17: How you doing, my friend? I'm doing pretty good today.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Good, good, good.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 17: I was trying to be quick because I know there's
• 53:44
  Speaker 17: so many people I had to call like two hundred
• 53:45
  Speaker 17: plus times to get in myself to let me be
• 53:47
  Speaker 17: quick about it. But when I went what he got
• 53:49
  Speaker 17: on the phone, I got mad about the whole thing
• 53:51
  Speaker 17: all over again. So I wanted to bring something that
• 53:52
  Speaker 17: real quick. We got Caleb down. Okay, the comparison is
• 53:56
  Speaker 17: what you are to day, He's a he's a nickel player.
• 53:58
  Speaker 17: I love the pick as fantastic love Lawrence another fantastic pick.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Right, But we were talking about us.
• 54:05
  Speaker 17: Still needing a linebacker and still getting our safety and
• 54:08
  Speaker 17: how important that was. It took me back all as
• 54:11
  Speaker 17: soon as what he got on the phone. It immediately
• 54:12
  Speaker 17: took me back to the Hall of Fame, and I
• 54:14
  Speaker 17: was like, we got to get more players in here
• 54:16
  Speaker 17: on the Hall of Fame because there are lots of
• 54:17
  Speaker 17: players on the media side of things now that need
• 54:20
  Speaker 17: to get in there because we need to make something right.
• 54:22
  Speaker 17: When I saw Luke Keighley in the year that he's
• 54:26
  Speaker 17: up against Darren, I know what he would never say,
• 54:28
  Speaker 17: but I was like, Luke Keighley played eight years less early,
• 54:32
  Speaker 17: had six hundred and ninety tackles. Even if you were
• 54:34
  Speaker 17: just going apples to Apple, get my man Woody in
• 54:37
  Speaker 17: the Hall of Fame and stop playing with this guy
• 54:39
  Speaker 17: million dollars smile, billion dollar personality.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, you're forgetting all of the championships the Panthers
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: have won.
• 54:46
  Speaker 17: Listen, Nick, I wasn't even gonna go there. I'm just
• 54:48
  Speaker 17: going apples to apples. What he meant to the team
• 54:51
  Speaker 17: and what he meant to the game is what the
• 54:53
  Speaker 17: Hall of Fame is all about.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 17: Know, but absolutely I love what the Cowboys dead, and
• 54:58
  Speaker 17: I think that the whole rivalry is just for the
• 55:00
  Speaker 17: fans because I like what the Giants and the Eagle's
• 55:03
  Speaker 17: been doing for us the last several years.
• 55:05
  Speaker 16: Appreciate the Eagles.
• 55:06
  Speaker 17: Thank you Giants, thank you Barbar you have a great day,
• 55:08
  Speaker 17: and hang them a Lezzards.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: All I appreciate it. Yeah, let's let's not forget the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Cowboys and Eagles made a trade. Uh, and they picked
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: up Mackay Lemon. So if he if he's torching the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Cowboys ask for years, it's like, well, you guys did
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: trade for him, you know. And the same with the
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Eagles with Michael Parsons. I mean they that was the
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys trade to get Michael Parsons and move back
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit so they could get I think Devonte Smith.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: But you know, it happens. I'm looking at the picks
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys have coming up. They got a third rounder
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: from San Francisco. They got two fourth rounders that they
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: got from from the Eagles. You don't have to like
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: people to trade with them. That's very clear. Cowboys have
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: done that. They have no problems trading with the Eagles.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I thought they may get on the phone with the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Giants at some point last night to try to try
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: to get that. But you know, the interesting thing, we're
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: gonna close it off here. But the interesting thing Cleveland
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: at nine, you know, they went from six traded with Kancity,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: they went to nine, and the Cowboys were trying to
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: get there. They were trying like hell to get to nine.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: But they didn't want the Giants to take their offensive linemen.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what they were saying. So that that
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: tells the Cowboys that, well, all right, and that's why
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: they didn't keep pushing it because they really feel like, well,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the Browns are taking alignment and they they think that
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the Giants want to take alignment. I can't even remember
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: who the Giants took it ten.
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: But.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: It was clear that they probably weren't going to take down.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: So then there was just one other team that have
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: to deal with with Miami or other teams trading for
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and they didn't want to They didn't want to mess
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: with that. But you know, it's funny when when they
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: make these calls and some of the answers you get,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: if you really are piecing it together, you can kind
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: of you can kind of play this thing and say,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: all right, who's doing what? Who needs this? But it
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: was it was masterful in my opinion, of how the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to do that and even give it
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: up the fifths and then TOURNAMENTO fourth and so we'll see,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're gonna be more wheeling and dealing
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: maybe not tonight as much, but they I'm sure they
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: will be on Saturday. All right, guys, appreciate the show.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna give a shout out to Derek Eaglebton for
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and Chris Beam for allowing us to do this today
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and put this on the schedule. It was a long
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: night last night. It's gonna be a long day, but
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that, and it helped to get Darren
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Woodson on the phone and for him to agree to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: do this. We were able to have this show. Guys,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll do it again on Wednesday on our
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: regular time. We'll be back on Cowboys storyline. So happy
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Draft for you guys, and keep watching and make sure
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: and tune into the Draft show. These guys put in
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: some serious hours of prep to do this and then
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be It's gonna be a long day today,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: but but there's no place they would rather be than
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: right in here, and so make sure and listen to
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: that show as well. All right. For Chris Beam, I'm
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Nick Eatvean see next time on Cowboys storyline.
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